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Bristol-Myers Squibb Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript


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Participants

Corporate Executives

  • Tim Power
    Vice President, Investor Relations
  • Giovanni Caforio
    Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
  • David Elkins
    Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
  • Chris Boerner
    Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer
  • Samit Hirawat
    Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development

Analysts

  • Geoffrey Meacham, BofA Securities
  • Seamus Fernandez, Guggenheim Securities
  • Christopher Schott, JP Morgan Securities
  • Luisa Hector, Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG
  • Andrew Baum, Citigroup Global Markets
  • Carter Gould, Barclays Capital
  • Ronny Gal, Sanford C. Bernstein & Company LLC
  • Steven Scala, Cowen and Company LLC
  • Dane Leone, Raymond James & Associates
  • Matt Phipps, William Blair & Company LLC

Presentation

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Bristol-Myers Squibb 2021 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Tim Power, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Christina, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us for our third quarter 2021 earnings call. Joining me this morning with prepared remarks are Giovanni Caforio, our Board Chair and Chief Executive Officer; and David Elkins, our Chief Financial Officer. Also, with me for today's call are Chris Boerner, our Chief Commercialization Officer; and Samit Hirawat, our Chief Medical Officer and Head of Global Drug Development. You'll note that we posted slides to BMS.com and you can use those to follow along with Dave and Giovanni's remarks. But before we get started, I'll read our forward-looking statements.

During today's call, we'll make statements about the company's future plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the company's SEC filings. These forward-looking statements represent our estimates as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our estimates as of any future date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements even if our estimates change.

We'll also focus our comments on our non-GAAP financial measures, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available at bms.com.

And with that, I'll hand it over to Giovanni.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Tim. And good morning, everyone. I hope that you're all doing well. Now turning to slide 4. I'm pleased to report a very good third quarter with solid sales growth driven by strong commercial execution and good progress in our pipeline. I'm proud of the performance of our commercial teams who drove demand growth for our launch products and delivered solid performance of our in-line products, including Revlimid, Opdivo, and Eliquis.

In R&D, we are progressing the most promising assets in our pipeline for sustained growth. In the quarter, we advanced our third I-O mechanism with the fixed dose of relatlimab plus nivo accepted for priority review in the U.S. for the treatment of patients with unresectable or metastatic melanoma. This is an important development for the I-O franchise, and we have additional data readouts for Opdivo on the horizon.

From a financial perspective, we reported sales of $11.6 billion, a non-GAAP EPS of $2 with growth of 10% and 23%, respectively. I'm encouraged by our results and how they position us for the rest of '21 and for the future. As a result, we are reaffirming our revenue guidance and raising the lower-end of our non-GAAP EPS guidance range. Our balance sheet is strong, and we continue to pursue a disciplined capital allocation strategy focused on investing in internal and external innovation opportunities.

On the IP front, we are pleased with the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upholding the Eliquis IP and providing exclusivity until 2028 under existing settlements. This decision confirms our belief in the value of the science behind Eliquis and the underlying IP protecting its innovation. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with our progress in the quarter.

Turning to our execution scorecard on slide 5. At the start of the year, I laid out this scorecard with the milestones we thought would be important for us to deliver in order to successfully renew our portfolio. The team has worked hard, and I'm proud that we're making progress across the board. S number of accomplishments were included on the prior slide, so I won't go through all the details. But I want to call out a few highlights here. David will provide more details in his remarks.

I'll start with Deucravacitinib. Deucrava has demonstrated a compelling and differentiated profile in two phase 3 studies as the oral treatment of choice in psoriasis, and is an important asset with significant potential across a number of indications, including psoriatic arthritis where we have already initiated a phase 3 program. Although we did not achieve proof of concept in a phase 2 study for ulcerative colitis, we are committed to advancing our promising Deucravacitinib clinical program in inflammatory bowel disease, including another study for ulcerative colitis as well as Crohn's disease, in lupus and other immune-mediated diseases.

We continue to make great progress in our cell therapy franchise, and we look forward to presenting the TRANSFORM data for Breyanzi in second-line DLBCL rash. We're excited with the strength of this data, which has the potential to enable our cell therapy franchise to reach a broader set of patients. And we are also looking forward to presenting data from the first phase 2 study for milvexian for VTE prevention in patients undergoing total knee replacement at the American Heart Association Conference in a few weeks. Looking at the overall strength of execution so far, I am confident that we are on track to deliver what is required for us to renew our portfolio.

Moving to slide 6. It has been two years since we formed the new Bristol-Myers Squibb. As I reflect on this time, we have already made great progress. We are doing what we set out to do, delivering on the value drivers of the integration and most importantly establishing a strong foundation for our company's growth well into the future. Knowing that we face losses of exclusivity in the coming years, I recognize executing well on our multiple launches and continuing to advance our pipeline is particularly important for us. When I reflect on the last two years, I'm pleased on both fronts. We see strong demand for our newly-launched products, and we are delivering on the promise of our pipeline, including a broadening data set for our launch products and continuing progress with our next generation of assets, such as milvexian and iberdomide.

Our company today is more diversified than ever before with four durable franchises and the financial flexibility to continue to invest in innovation. As we recently announced, we will be hosting an investor event on November 16 in New York City to review our progress over the last two years and further discuss the company's strategy, pipeline, and business opportunities. I look forward to the meeting, and I hope you will join us.

In closing, we have made significant progress through this period, and I would like to thank our global teams who have maintained the focus on delivering for patients. With that, I'll turn it over to David to walk you through the financials. David?

David Elkins
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Giovanni. And thank you all for joining our call today. Starting with our top line performance on slide 8, we had yet another strong quarter with third quarter revenues growing double digits versus prior year, primarily due to increased demand for our in line brands but as well as our new product portfolio. So let me shed some light on some of our product performance starting with Eliquis on slide 9.

Eliquis continues to perform very strong with global sales up 15% versus prior year. In U.S., sales grew 18% versus prior year. Demand growth continues to be strong with total prescription growth of 14% versus last year driven by Eliquis market share gains and growth in new-to-brand volumes. Sequentially, as usual, sales were impacted by the expected coverage gap liability that occurs in the third and fourth quarters each year. We expect strong new-to-brand share growth to further translate to overall total prescription growth. Internationally sales grew 12% versus prior year primarily due to demand. Shares continue to increase across all key geographies and continues to rank as the number one OAC in multiple markets with additional room to grow. We remain really pleased with Eliquis's execution around the world and expect to continue to grow Eliquis's share within a growing class.

Now moving to Opdivo's performance on slide 10. We are pleased with the continued momentum for the brand with sales growth of 7% versus prior year. In the U.S., sales grew 4% versus last year, primarily driven by uptake in first-line lung cancer and our multiple other new launches this year. And sequentially, we had demand growth of 5%, which was offset by work-down of $40 million in inventory build we noted in the second quarter. Our commercial teams continue to execute well. We've retained strong positions in core indications such as melanoma and renal, and are very pleased with the performance of our newer indications.

Outside the U.S., we had another strong quarter with sales up 11% versus last year. Growth was primarily driven by demand for new indications of expanded access in Latin America, Turkey, and Russia. We continue to see strong uptake from our new launches in lung and renal cancer in Germany and Japan with pricing and reimbursement discussions ongoing in other key markets. These launches, together with recent approvals of first-line gastric and adjuvant esophageal cancer, are expected to contribute to further growth internationally. Based on positive momentum from our current launches and future potential launches, including first-line esophageal in May of next year as well as expansion opportunities from clinical trials that will read out over the next few years, the promise for Opdivo's continued growth is high.

Turning to our in line multiple myeloma portfolio on slide 11. Revlimid was up 11% globally, primarily driven by demand for triplet-based therapies and increasing treatment duration. Pomalyst global sales are up 10% driven by continued demand for triplet-based therapies and use in earlier lines.

Now moving to our new products on slide 12, we continue to be very pleased with our new products which generated sales of $344 million in the third quarter. This new diversified portfolio is already annualizing close to $1.5 billion run rate giving us great confidence that we are on our way to renewing our business with products that are much earlier in their life cycle. So let's start with Reblozyl, which generated strong sales of $160 million in the third quarter, up 67% versus prior year. Sales growth in the U.S. was primarily driven by continued demand in the ESA refractory MDS patients as well as a $20 million to $25 million inventory build. We are very encouraged by the recent NCCN guideline update that now recommends evaluating ESA response sooner at six to eight weeks instead their previously recommended 12 to 16 weeks. This supports the need to monitor and potentially treat new patients earlier in their treatment journey. Additionally, we remain focused on ensuring they receive the most appropriate dose for sustained benefit.

Outside the U.S., uptake continues to be strong in countries where Reblozyl is launched. Sales were impacted by the usual price review one year after launch in Germany. We expect to launch in Italy and the Netherlands in Q4 pending reimbursement discussions and in more countries in 2022 to drive additional growth for the brand.

Moving to our cell therapies, Abecma and Breyanzi. Demand for Abecma, our first-in-class BCMA CAR T, remains robust. We generated $71 million in the third quarter versus $24 million in the second quarter. Remember that 2Q revenues consisted of only 1.5 months of sales having launched in mid-May. So performance this quarter reflects a full quarter of sales. Demand continues to exceed supply, and we expect Q4 revenues to be largely similar to Q3.

Now moving to our CD19 CAR T, Breyanzi, sales in the quarter were $30 million versus $17 million in the prior quarter. Sales increased due to patient demand with physicians recognizing Breyanzi's best-in-class profile. We're extremely pleased to have clinically meaningful EFS data in second-line large B-cell lymphoma and look forward to presenting the data at ASH and bringing this treatment to earlier line patients in 2022.

Turning to Zeposia. Global revenues were $40 million in the quarter driven by multiple sclerosis launch and one-time inventory build in the U.S. The MS launch continues to progress well where Zeposia remains the S1P of choice in terms of written prescriptions. We continue to focus on establishing Zeposia as not only the S1P of choice but also the oral treatment of choice in MS. Our launch in UC is also progressing well in the U.S. We are encouraged by the initial uptake and growth in the number of new trialers since launch in June. Our focus is building on volume, establishing demand for this oral biologic-like medicine, while broadening access over time. We're also very pleased to have just received CHMP positive opinion in Europe and look forward to making Zeposia available to patients living with UC as soon as possible.

Lastly, we're making progress on establishing Onureg in first-line maintenance in AML patients. Onureg generated sales of $21 million in the quarter, primarily driven by increased demand as well as inventory build versus prior quarter. We continue to focus on shaping the new maintenance segment and increasing adoption and patient adherence.

Now let's turn our attention over to P&L on slide 13. We've already covered our strong sales for the quarter, so let me walk you through a few other non-GAAP key line items. Gross margin increased versus prior year primarily due to lower royalty payments. Operating expenses were higher than last year particularly in R&D due to COVID recovery but also slightly in MS&A due to investments supporting our launch and pre-launch activities. MS&A versus prior quarter did experience some softness due to timing of investments that have shifted to the fourth quarter. Our effective tax rate of 14.9% was primarily driven by earnings mix. Overall, non-GAAP EPS increased 23% year-over-year.

Now moving to our balance sheet and capital allocation on slide 14. Our liquidity position remained strong with almost $16 billion in cash and marketable securities and a strong cash flow from operations of $5.3 billion in the quarter. Our capital allocation priorities remain unchanged with significant financial flexibility to support a balanced approach to capital allocation. Our priorities are to continue to renew and diversify our portfolio through business development, paying down our debt, and returning capital to shareholders. We've executed several business development deals this year bringing in differentiated early-stage assets. Business development remains a top priority as a leading innovation-based company.

We have paid down $6 billion in debt year to date and are committed to maintaining our strong investment grade rating. As it relates to returning capital to shareholders, we're committed to growing our dividend subject to board approval and remain opportunistic about share repurchases. We have already purchased 3.5 billion of shares to date, and we currently have, approximately, $3 billion remaining in our authorization program.

Now turning to our guidance on slide 15. Based on the strong performance in the quarter, we're reaffirming full-year sales and raising the lower end of our non-GAAP EPS guidance. We continue to expect revenues to increase at the higher end of our guidance and gross margin be, approximately, 80%. Moving to operating expenses, we are maintaining our MS&A and R&D guidance for the year. As I mentioned earlier, MS&A, we are expecting higher expenses in the fourth quarter due to timing of investments that shifted by a quarter. Additionally, we're updating our tax rate guidance to, approximately, 16.5%, primarily due to earnings mix.

All-in-all, I'm pleased with our performance. We had another remarkable quarter for the company and continue to execute well against our plans and to diversify and renew our portfolio. This performance could not have been achieved without the passion and dedication of our employees around the world, and I look forward to providing you future updates on our progress.

With that, I'll now turn it back over to Tim and Giovanni for Q&A.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, David. Christina, could we go to our first question, please?

Questions and Answers

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We'll take our first question from Geoff Meacham with Bank of America.

Geoffrey Meacham
Analyst at BofA Securities

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a good quarter. I just wanted to ask on the new launches. The Abecma launch was pretty good. Just give us a sense for how much of that is still bolus of patience versus underlying demand and just also help us with the impact that you're still seeing from the viral vector manufacturing. And then the second question just on Opdivo. It was flat sequentially and how do you view going into 2022 with respect to what indications could be more of a tipping point versus others? Thank you very much.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Geoff. Thanks for the questions. This is Giovanni. Let me just start with a couple of comments and then I'll ask Chris to answer both of your questions. I just wanted to step back and really think about cell therapy. And you'll remember in the past we've had a number of discussions about whether cell therapy treatments would have a fast uptake in the marketplace, whether this market would grow over time. There were concerns with payors' willingness to provide coverage for those therapies. And I must say when I look at the experience that we've had with both Abecma and Breyanzi, it really confirms our belief that given the right treatments with the right efficacy and safety profile, there is tremendous willingness of physicians to prescribe and drive increased adoption in the marketplace. Many of the payor dynamics have been resolved. So beyond, obviously, the question that Chris will answer, as we look at the medium and the long term and the commitment we've made to a broad cell therapy portfolio, I'm very reassured that the commercial potential of this modality is being recognized, I would say, significantly more than in the past. Chris.

Chris Boerner
Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

So thanks for the questions, Geoff. Let me start with cell therapy. So we are very pleased with the performance really of both of Abecma and Breyanzi in the quarter. We saw a very nice increase in demand for both products. There was some bolus for Abecma still reflected in these numbers, but the underlying demand for that product looks very strong. The same is true with Breyanzi. We're very happy with the commercial execution for both of these products. We now have over 70 accounts that have been activated across both products, and the majority of those accounts have been or planned to imminently use one or both of the cell therapy products.

So overall, I would say the commercial performance continues to be very good. As has been mentioned already, we're actively managing the supply constraints. Those mainly are impacting Abecma, and as David mentioned in his remarks, we do anticipate that Abecma sales in the fourth quarter are going to be roughly similar to what we saw in the third quarter. And we're, of course, continuing to stay very focused on managing through the vector supply constraints and anticipating being in a much better position on that front as we get into the second half of next year. But again, stepping back, as Giovanni just mentioned, we're very happy with what we're seeing in the marketplace on cell therapy, and it confirms the opportunity we have to build a strong position here.

With respect to Opdivo. The performance for the quarter for I-O was really in line with expectations. We saw very strong double-digit growth relative to same time last year. And while sales were flat, as you know, from Q2 into Q3, that was, as David mentioned, a function of inventory dynamics coming out of the second quarter. What is important here is that we had very solid growth in the quarter. We had solid growth relative to the same time last year and quarter over quarter, and that growth was in the key tumors that are going to drive near- and medium-term growth for the I-O franchise, notably in gastric cancer where we've seen a nice uptake since the approval in April in renal cell cancer. We continue to see very strong demand, and we've seen coming at the end of the quarter some nice growth in first-line lung cancer. So, overall, if you step back, we're very confident not only in the continued growth for Opdivo this year but importantly the momentum the momentum going into '22.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Chris. Christina, could we go to the next question, please?

Operator

Yes. We'll take our next question from Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim.

Seamus Fernandez
Analyst at Guggenheim Securities

Great. Thanks for the question. So first one is on Deucravacitinib. I just wanted to get a little bit of a better sense. It just seems -- I was surprised to see that we don't have Deucravacitinib listed as filed yet. Just don't know what the limitations are. Are there new data being added or -- that you plan to be added, or is it just simply waiting for FDA's acceptance of the filing?

The second question really is as we think about the opportunity for Deucravacitinib, I wanted to just get a better understanding of what Bristol believes is necessary to succeed in ulcerative colitis. It's our understanding that the [Indecipherable] may in fact be the most critical part of the development plan and that perhaps the Deucravacitinib may not achieve that unless the dose is really pushed. And so just wondering if a long-acting formulation may be something that Bristol's pursuing.

Then just a final question very quickly. Between your the MK2 inhibitor, the BTK inhibitor, the S1P1 that you have in phase 2, would you call out any of these as having data in 2022 that we should be watching for? Thanks. Great. Thanks for the question. So first one is on Deucravacitinib. I just wanted to get a little bit of a better sense. It just seems -- I was surprised to see that we don't have Deucravacitinib listed as filed yet. Just don't know what the limitations are. Are there new data being added or -- that you plan to be added, or is it just simply waiting for FDA's acceptance of the filing? The second question really is as we think about the opportunity for Deucravacitinib, I wanted to just get a better understanding of what Bristol believes is necessary to succeed in ulcerative colitis. It's our understanding that the [Indecipherable] may in fact be the most critical part of the development plan and that perhaps the Deucravacitinib may not achieve that unless the dose is really pushed. And so just wondering if a long-acting formulation may be something that Bristol's pursuing. Then just a final question very quickly. Between the MK2 inhibitor, the BTK inhibitor, the S1P1 that you have in phase 2, would you call out any of these as having data in 2022 that we should be watching for? Thanks.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Seamus. Let me ask Samit to answer your questions.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

All right, Seamus, thank you for your questions. On the first one on Deucrava, let me just first start by reiterating our confidence in the data which differentiates it and establishes it as a potential best oral therapy of choice in the future for patients with psoriasis. In terms of the filing, as you very well know, we don't comment on when we file but we certainly do make it public when the file has been accepted, validated after we have filed for the indication. So we will certainly make you aware and everyone aware when we hear as time goes. But, having said that, we do anticipate bringing the medicine to patients in the second half of 2022 as we have said before.

On the question on ulcerative colitis, you are right in the sense that the dose required in ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease or IBD in general is going to be two to three times higher than what we see for psoriasis. And we've seen that for other molecules as well. And that is the intent of the ongoing trials to test out these doses. We obviously have not shared exactly what doses are being pursued for confidential reasons and competitive reasons, but we are looking at all avenues in terms of looking at the impact from not only PK but the PD outcomes as well and we'll continue to follow those and those will be the ways to define a proof-of-concept in this disease for pursuing further in ulcerative colitis.

In terms of the MK2, S1P1, BTK additional data, those trials are ongoing. As you know, these are in the phase 2a, phase 2b settings where we have multiple indications being pursued in BTK in the same trial in the autoimmune space. S1P1 also additional work being done in Crohn's disease for example for Zeposia and for MK2 as well data is evolving. I can't say that you'll see the data in '22 or not, but certainly we'll make it available as soon as we have evolution of the clinical outcomes for these data.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

Yes. We'll take our next question from Chris Schott with JP Morgan.

Christopher Schott
Analyst at JP Morgan Securities

Great. Thanks so much. Just two questions for me. Maybe, first, there seems to be a lot of debate on the rate of Revlimid erosion in '22. I know you're not giving guidance for next year, but just any color you can provide there both U.S. and international dynamics. And maybe specifically on the international side of the business, is it reasonable to think about a business that's down like 50% for next year given the LOEs you're facing, or you're thinking of something much better or worse than that? It's just again one of these things that I think we all have eroding over time, but just any color on the rate of erosion would be much appreciated.

And then the second question is a bigger picture one. You've been steadily rebuilding the portfolio here, but you've had a stock that's underperformed this year. I think the Street remains concerned on some of these longer-term LOEs. Does that at some point lead to I guess a more aggressive deployment of your capital? Whether that's a step up in BD, you look at maybe later-stage deals or even go in the other direction with more aggressive share repo. I'm trying to get a sense of when you look at what -- I think you would think of as a disconnect between what's fundamentally happened with your business and the stock price, like how do you kind of think about it starting to address that? Thanks very much.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Chris. Let me take your questions. Here Giovanni. So, first of all, on Revlimid generic entries. Nothing has changed there, and let me just reiterate what we've said before and what do we see happening next year. So next year, we will begin to see a volume-limited generic competition in the U.S. And at the same time, we expect to see generic entries for Revlimid ex-U.S. That's consistent with what has always been our understanding. It has not changed. It's been fairly clear in our filings, and we're preparing for that.

The second thing that I would like to say is that if you remember beginning at JP Morgan, we clearly articulated how we think about the company during the period of loss of exclusivity for Revlimid and Pomalyst. And we expect to be able to grow the company. In fact, we've articulated a lot of low-to-mid single digit for the total company and low double digit for our continuing business through 2025. And when we provided that perspective, obviously, we were reflecting our understanding of the Revlimid evolution. And I think the conviction that we have that we can continue to grow the company is really driven by the belief which is proving right that the combination of strong growth from our in line products, and namely Opdivo and Eliquis, combined with the strong uptake of our launch brands which is happening, would more than offset the loss of exclusivity of Revlimid internationally next year and then over time in the U.S. So while I'm not going to give you exactly a percentage of erosion for next year, and we definitely will have an opportunity to talk more about this when we eventually provide guidance for the year, what I can tell you is that our belief remains strong, and I think that our perspective that we are able to grow sales and earnings per share applies to next year as well. And so nothing has really changed there.

Now with respect to your second question that speaks to what are our priorities as we renew the portfolio in the face of LOEs, first of all, I think we have a rapidly evolving portfolio of new medicines that has tremendous potential where we are executing multiple launches well. And I think our priority is always going to be first to maximize the opportunities that we have in a very, very rich late-stage pipeline. At the same time, we have tremendous financial flexibility, as David said. And, obviously, we've said for some time now that business development is a priority for us as we think about allocating capital and that continues to be the case.

At the same time, as I've said before, we will be disciplined as we think about BD because we do have many opportunities to deploy our capital to accelerate growth. And I also believe that our capital allocation strategy will continue to be balanced where, as David mentioned, we have a history to look at our dividend, and we have increased our dividend consistently over the last several years. We've done that double-digit in the last couple of years. And looking at share repurchases, year to date we've repurchased 3.5 billion. We have an existing authorization for another 3 billion this year, and obviously we'll continue to look at that as well. But I can tell you that, of course, I understand the focus on LOEs at the same time as we believe that we are executing really well on a plan to renew our portfolio, and we have tremendous financial flexibility to continue to make the right moves to do that.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Christina, can we go to our next question, please?

Operator

Our next question from Tim Anderson with Wolfe Research.

Timothy Anderson
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Thank you. A couple of questions. LAG-3 when can we expect that you'll have overall survival data in hand in melanoma for the package you've already submitted? And can you update us what the development program looks like from here in terms of new trials and new tumor types? If I look at Roche with TIGIT, they pushed into lots of registrational trials for lots of different tumors kind of all at once, and I'm wondering why we're not seeing Bristol do the same here. Does it signal that your confidence just isn't there yet in this molecule and that the survival data in melanoma is a gating factor?

And then second question on mavacamten. Last quarter I asked a question why you got only a standard review when it was awarded Breakthrough Therapy designation previously, I didn't quite understand your answer. But in 2019 it was pretty clear, you expected 2021 approval and launch. So I'm going to re-ask it here, are you confident you have an approvable drug at the PDUFA date or is there the potential that they'll want additional data and you'll get a CRO?

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure. Thank you, Tim. Let me ask Samit to answer both of your questions, LAG-3 and mavacamten.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure. Thank you, Tim. For LAG-3, overall survival data, of course, is dependent on the events, and we are going to continue to follow them, and we'll share the data once available through a medical conference, but certainly make you aware of it. We have to remember though that in I-O therapies more important than those hazard ratios are going to be the shape of the curve, and we're going to continue to watch out for that and we'll share that when that becomes available. I cannot tell you exactly what the timing would be at this time.

From a development program perspective, yes, the first aligned [Phonetic] melanoma study read out. We submitted it. We have a PDUFA date for March of 2022. We have initiated the adjuvant trial in melanoma at this time. We have a randomized phase 2 study ongoing in non-small cell lung cancer and plans to initiate phase 3 trials late this year -- at the end of this year or early next year. And we have a randomized trial ongoing in adenocarcinoma as a proof-of-concept generation. LAG-3, as you know, has had a history for a long time where we didn't have any data. So one has to ensure that the proof-of-concepts that we are following are going to be strong, and we believe that the trials that we have ongoing will give us that data to go forward.

For TIGIT, if you recall, there is a proof-of-concept in non-small cell lung cancer and that is a different tumor type and different milieu in terms of the tumor microenvironment. So we have to sort of judge the scientific data and put that in that perspective as we look for new tumor types to explore. And we'll certainly keep you posted if new tumor types are added in the LAG-3 program as well.

For mavacamten, we are certainly comfortable with the data that we have from the EXPLORER trial from the efficacy perspective as well as safety perspective. We have a PDUFA date for January of next year. We have not heard from the FDA in terms of what additional data would be required. We certainly don't comment as to what the outcomes will be and how the ultimate decisions will be made by the agency, but we continue to engage with them. And as is usual for any filing, the back and forth and answering questions continues. But that is not unusual as we look at mavacamten or any other drug.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Luisa Hector with Berenberg.

Luisa Hector
Analyst at Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG

Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to check on Deucravacitinib whether you have started hiring your dermatology sales force already or whether this is since now the Q4 and the reason the phasing of marketing cost into Q4 from Q3. And maybe you could also update us on where you are with your cost savings or where you plan to be by the end of this year and what kind of increment we could see in 2022 given the Revlimid generic impact as well just to think about the phasing of those various items? Thank you.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you. So let's start with Deucrava commercial investment in preparation for launch, Chris, and then David on synergies.

Chris Boerner
Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure. Thanks for the question. We are well on our way to building out the U.S. commercial and medical teams and feel great about the quality of the team that we're pulling together as well as the commercial readiness. The medical teams have actually been in place for a number of months. We've managed to hire a very strong team with deep dermatology experience there. Key and office roles have been filled and they're in the process of executing against launch plans and we are building out the sales teams now.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

David.

David Elkins
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Great. And thanks for the question on synergies. The execution on the integration continues to go extremely well. As we indicated before, we'll over deliver our initial commitment. We're now at $3 billion. By the end of this year, we anticipate being about $2.5 billion, which you may recall was the original overall commitment. So as we head into next year, getting to that $3 billion is what we're targeting. So good execution and continued over-achievement of our initial expectations on the synergies.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, David. Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

Our next question will come from Andrew Baum with Citi.

Andrew Baum
Analyst at Citigroup Global Markets

Yeah, thank you. First question is on the TYK2. Number one, could you just update us on the additional maturing data sets in terms of what you're seeing from just cardiovascular as well as malignancy if anything? And also, perhaps you can comment on, in light of the recent FDA comments for JAKs in RA. How are you thinking about potential labeling for TYK2 because, obviously, there's a continuum of potential labels, some very unfavorable, some obviously more favorable?

And then second, in relation to your analyst meeting that is coming up. To what extent would you be able to talk to your phase 3 program for your Factor XIa inhibitor, or will we have to wait until you have the arterial data in hand next year before you and your partner can talk to the overall phase 3 trial program? Thank you.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure, Andrew. Let me just start by giving you a perspective about the investor meeting and then we'll ask Samit to comment on the TYK2 program. So as we think about getting together in the middle of November, the objective is really primarily to give you an update on everything that has happened in the company, in our portfolio over the last few years. It will be two years since we closed the acquisition of Celgene and a lot has happened. And so we'll talk about the progress with the pipeline, some of the late-stage programs, the commercial opportunities we see from the asset, and we'll talk about the outlook for the company.

Specifically, there will be an opportunity to focus on a few of those. So, for example, as you know, the milvexian data will be presented at AHA just before our meeting, and we look forward to discussing that update with you. We're also making progress in another area which is hematology, and that includes the CELMoDs and the Breyanzi second-line data that were mentioned earlier. They are expected to be at ASH, and we have an opportunity to review those at the event. So these are just some of the examples of the updates that we're planning on discussing it at the meeting, and that includes some of the data sets that you were referencing. Samit.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah, thank you. And in regards to the TYK2 inhibitor, the long-term data that we continue to follow these patients and we've seen we don't see the profile differentiating in any other way than what we've already disclosed before, and we believe this is a TYK2 inhibitor with not having a JAK-like signature. The overall profile from the lab parameters perspective, cardiovascular perspective, infections perspective remains stable as the data have been shared before. So we are looking forward to continuing the engagement with the agencies as we go forward and looking to bring it to patients in the second half of next year.

As far as the JAK and labeling in RA as well as other conditions are concerned, again, these are going to be in the future as we go into discussions with the regulatory agencies how we see it. We don't see it as a JAK inhibitor. So we're not really thinking about it like that. We'll continue to update you once we get a more sound place in terms of advice if there is any to be shared.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Carter Gould with Barclays.

Carter Gould
Analyst at Barclays Capital

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. First, I guess maybe to start with commercial. I was hoping you could add maybe a little bit more in terms of anything tangible on sort of you see demand with Zeposia and to what extent the start of the year will be sort of an important milestone in terms of broadening access? And then maybe just a clarifying question on the Deucravacitinib. Samit, you talked about in UC needing to explore doses two to three times higher than what's active in psoriasis. I know you don't want to get into specific doses, but are you exploring something above and beyond sort of the 12 mg that I think was the high end in the psoriasis study? And then I know it's a bit of a sensitive topic given some of the ongoing litigation, but just maybe how you're thinking about sort of the backup TYK2 compounds you have in your portfolio? Thank you.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure. Chris, why don't you start on UC demand.

Chris Boerner
Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. So we feel very good about the performance that we're seeing for Zeposia and UC. And let me start with execution. The execution of the team really since approval has been very strong. We've got very good awareness for the product. The unaided awareness now is over 60%, aided awareness is well over 90%. Since approval in UC, we estimate that we have around 400 trialers that have already begun to utilize the product. Virtually all of the gastros that we surveyed were aware of Zeposia or interested in trying it. And, frankly, in spite of a still relatively restricted access environment, the sales teams are having very good success in engaging with customers, both in person and remotely. So from an execution standpoint, it's early days, but we feel very good about where we are.

As you note, access is going to -- continue to be something we pay a lot of attention to. We feel good about our ability to start generating volume this year and into the first part of next year, and we think that volume will build momentum as we get into the second half of 2022 when we begin to get additional more favorable access with key payors. But so far, the UC performance that we're seeing commercially is very, very strong and very happy with where we sit.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you, Chris. Before I ask Samit to comment on the Deucrava dose, let me just say, Carter, we're not going to comment on any ongoing litigation. I just want to say that that litigation is really not related at all to the BMS program or any backup that may exist. So they're completely different programs and there is no relationship there.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. And just the minor thing to add over here is, as we talk about the doses, without getting into the specifics of it, I can tell you that we selected the doses which are higher than what we used in the psoriasis program based on PK modeling and taking into account the historical experience. We will certainly say that, at this point, we don't know if these higher doses will translate into efficacy or not. That's the proof-of-concept we're trying to get, and once that is available, that will certainly pave the way for the future program. We will need to see what the data are from the next trials that we are pursuing right now, both in Crohn's disease as well as in ulcerative colitis.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Okay. Can we go to our next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Ronny Gal with Bernstein.

Ronny Gal
Analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Company LLC

Good morning and thank you for taking the questions. The first one is on the PD-1 space. There's been some debate about the approvability of full-on PD-1s with data from Asian populations only. You've, obviously, generated a lot of data in various populations. I was wondering if there was any scientific basis to this concern there is? In your trials, is there a difference in either efficacy or safety in different ethnic populations with your PD-1?

And second, on Washington and the discussion around price reform and the drug area. It seems to be clear that the negative scenarios for the industry will not play out, but there's still some discussion of pharma contributing to catastrophic insurance in Part D, and if there will be price negotiations, the discussion seems to be focused on Part B. Given that you're essentially more exposed to the oncology space, I was wondering if there's any basis for that? Is there a risk that oncology will take the brunt off the impact of the DC whatever giveaways are taken or will it be more balanced across their product types?

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Ronny. Let me just start there and then I'll ask Samit to comment on your question about PD-1 development. So let me just start by saying that it's really difficult to forecast at this point what price reform may look like in the future. From my perspective, what's important is that any change that is made actually improves affordability of medicines for patients, and that's the lens that we are applying. And from that perspective, there are a number of elements of potential reform like establishing out of pocket caps in Part D, redesign of the Part D benefit to reduce the exposure of patients that we support, and we also support some changes like introducing market forces in Part B.

Very difficult to answer your question with respect to whether a disproportionate impact may happen in oncology or not. I think what's important is that we don't go do reforms that actually impact the ability of the industry overall to continue to invest in innovation. And that's the primary lens here. I think from the perspective of the BMS portfolio, when you look at our portfolio, it is actually very diversified across therapeutic areas, across actually Part B versus Part D. And so I can't speculate what the impact of any reform would be on us. I think what's really important is to continue to advocate for reforms that, yes, improve affordability of medicines for patients, but at the same time, enable us to continue to invest in innovation and some of the hyper-partisan scenarios being discussed in Washington would actually impact both negatively.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. And just starting from where you left off, in terms of the portfolio, we have a very broad portfolio, which means that when we conduct our clinical trials, we do them globally, including those in the Asian countries. and when we file the data, we have to provide subset analysis by region or sometimes even by country and that's how we seek approval in some of the regions and countries of the world, including in Asia.

As it comes to the PD-1 inhibitors where we have conducted clinical trials globally and across the 20-odd indications or 12-plus tumor types that have now sought approvals we don't see a major difference occurring because of regional differences or population differences. That doesn't mean that representation of larger populations may not be required in clinical trials. So one has to just keep that in mind rather than thinking about a single country trial will lead to approvals or not.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, can we go to our next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Matthew Harrison with Morgan Stanley.

Matthew Harrison
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess two for me. So first on the second-line CAR T study, I'm just wondering how you're thinking about that commercially and specifically whether you think you need longer-term follow-up to compare to transplant for that to be commercially successful? And then as we look at the data coming at ASH, I think we're going to get data from Kite's study as well. I'm wondering if there's any differentiation you're looking for your product versus those?

And then second, on Zeposia, I'm just wondering if you could talk about or you've thought about if Biogen wins their appeal on Tecfidera and branded Tecfidera comes back to the market, does that change any of your assumptions and how you think about the MS market. Thanks.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you. Thanks, Matthew. let me start with Chris. Just maybe a comment on Zeposia and then we can move to the second line CAR T data and Samit will add some comments.

Chris Boerner
Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. So just on Zeposia very quickly. We have -- we don't anticipate that any potential change on the Tecfidera side would have an impact on us. We've seen very limited competitive impact of generic Tecfidera. That's prominently been cannibalization of branded Tec and then obviously a shift in the utilization within that portfolio. Our focus on the Zeposia in the MS side continues to be not only establishing ourselves as the number one SP, which we are right now in terms of written scripts, but also becoming the number one oral. And so our focus will continue to be in a very disciplined way focused on that.

And then let me just give the commercial perspective on the second line CAR T study and then I'll turn it over to Samit. When you look at that second line setting, you generally see that population divert into those physicians who tend to be very focused on transplant. There's a sort of defined segment of those physicians. There are a number of physicians who are very open and look for opportunities to avoid transplant where possible and then there are a number of physicians who really take it on a case-by-case basis. And so we're excited about the data that we've seen so far and look forward to seeing that data continue to play out and be presented at ASH, and we'll adjust obviously accordingly from a commercial standpoint. Samit.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah, and just continuing that excitement from a data perspective we truly are looking forward to sharing the data at ASH from the second line study. And EFS in this particular case is accepted endpoint from a regulatory perspective. So looking forward to certainly getting engagement with the agency and getting this again to the patients as soon as possible we'll obviously continue to follow patients for overall survival and as is as is required for CAR T cell therapy is long-term safety follow-up as well. So those data will evolve and will be shared in the future. At the current time, the primary endpoint of this study was EFS and we have that in hand and that will be presented.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Steve Scala with Cowen.

Steven Scala
Analyst at Cowen and Company LLC

Thank you. A couple questions. Lupus seems like an area of strategic interest to the company. Does Bristol feel it has all the assets it needs in lupus or would you look for M&A to supplement this area? So that's one question. Second question is on the Factor XIa data at AHA it was mentioned on this call that the company is excited about what we're going to see. On the second quarter call, Samit, you noted that the data we're going to see is dose finding and safety data. So should we conclude that what we will see in AHA is that you have the phase 3 dose and it is proven safe, or might we see more than that? Thank you.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you. Samit, you want to take it both?

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Sure, absolutely. Thank you, Steve, for your questions and starting with lupus, as you know that we will first of all get the data for Deucravacitinib in SLE at the beginning of next year. We have a discoid lupus study that is also ongoing, which will read out in '23 or later part of that. We have a couple of other assets in early development which are on clinicaltrials.gov which we have ongoing studies looking at lupus as well. So we do believe that we've covered a broad range of targets and broad range of medicines being explored in lupus and one of those or several of those could be pursued for the future.

From an XIa perspective for milvexian, as we've said at AHA, you'll see the data and there are two things to really take away. One, the intent of the study was to define a range of dose that will be pursued for future evaluation in phase 3. Once the data from SSP study is also available so that collective data set then leads to the decision making for future exploration in indications as we go forward.

Second, we wanted to see a differentiation in terms of not only efficacy but very importantly from a safety and bleeding risk perspective. And when we think about that, it is going to be important to pay attention to major bleeds and minor bleeds and overall bleeds. So those are the kinds of things that you probably will see at AHA and then we can certainly have a discussion in the middle of next month when we have the presentations for the investors meeting.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, can we go to the next question, please?

Operator

We'll take our next question from Dane Leone with Raymond James.

Dane Leone
Analyst at Raymond James & Associates

Thank you for taking the questions and congratulations on the update. I'll keep it to two for me. Firstly, just going back to the generic erosion debate heading into 2022. Taking a different angle, obviously, post the acquisition of Celgene that was accretive to your overall operating margin, the question from a lot of us that followed Celgene historically, along with Bristol, has been -- the belief was Revlimid drove a lot of that margin for Celgene. And with that going away, even with new brands ramping up, is there enough from the portfolio and steady-state growth of maybe Eliquis and Opdivo which you offset that impact operationally from EBITDA, or will there need to be bridging, like you said, of additional cost efficiencies from the organization. So that's one essentially getting to whether there could be a lost year or two of EBITDA growth from the existing portfolio.

Secondly, a quick one for me. It's been brought up a lot why the team has not aggressively moved to start studies in more of a mild-to-moderate population for Zeposia in ulcerative colitis. So any thoughts around the development plan there would be appreciated. Thank you.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks very much. So let me just start and I'll ask David to make some comments there. I'll just reiterate what I said earlier that from our perspective as we think about the period of loss of exclusivity of Revlimid, first of all, we always said that our perspective was, particularly in the U.S. there would be a slope that would be happening over time. We've made a comment in the past, we were more conservative on that slope than consensus. At the same time, we believe strongly in the fact that the growth of the in line portfolio and the launch brands will actually enable the company to grow through that period. But David can give you a better perspective about the profitability of our business going forward and how we think about that.

David Elkins
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. Thanks, Dane, for the question. And we've been very confident in our ability to maintain our operating margins in the low-to-mid 40% through 2025, and there's a couple of things that driving it. One is, as discussed earlier, we're doing better on our synergies and strong execution against that as we head into next year and the run rate after that. I'd say the others we've been very disciplined on the P&L side of things and as you may note from an MS&A perspective we're very efficient and top tier in our industry.

And the other thing I would say is that we've been very disciplined from the standpoint of reallocating resources from those LOE brands to our launch brands, which gives us further confidence in. And the last thing is if you think about the portfolio and the launches, many of those products have strong margins, as you talked about on the end line with Opdivo being a high margin product but also some of the other ones that are in the launch portfolio like Zeposia as well as Reblozyl. Those products have nice margins as well. So that's what gives us confidence in our ability to keep those operating margins in that low-to-mid 40s as we progress. Yeah. Thanks, Dane, for the question. And we've been very confident in our ability to maintain our operating margins in the low-to-mid 40% through 2025, and there's a couple of things that driving it. One is, as discussed earlier, we're doing better on our synergies and strong execution against that as we head into next year and the run rate after that. I'd say the others we've been very disciplined on the P&L side of things and as you may note from an MS&A perspective we're very efficient and top tier in our industry. And the other thing I would say is that we've been very disciplined from the standpoint of reallocating resources from those LOE brands to our launch brands, which gives us further confidence in. And the last thing is if you think about the portfolio and the launches, many of those products have strong margins, as you talked about on the end line with Opdivo being a high margin product but also some of the other ones that are in the launch portfolio like Zeposia as well as Reblozyl. Those products have nice margins as well. So that's what gives us confidence in our ability to keep those operating margins in that low-to-mid 40s as we progress.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

And in terms of Zeposia, we have obviously got the indication for MS as well UC and the trials are ongoing in Crohn's disease. We currently do not have any plans in the mild-to-moderate patients with UC at this time.

Tim Power
Vice President, Investor Relations at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, Samit. Christina, I think we have time for one last question.

Operator

We'll take our last question from Matt Phipps with William Blair.

Matt Phipps
Analyst at William Blair & Company LLC

Good morning. Thanks for including me. You mentioned that Abecma would be relatively flat going into the fourth quarter, but should we expect it to be more or less flat until the vector supply issues are resolved, which I think you said would occur in the second half of next year? And then can you just comment on if the higher dose that was explored in the LATTICE-UC trial with Deucra is also being explored in Crohn's and SLE or just maybe how there's different doses amongst those indications as well?

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thank you. Chris and then Samit.

Chris Boerner
Executive Vice President, Chief Commercialization Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

So just quickly on Abecma, we've commented on how we anticipate Abecma sales growing in Q4, and we've also said that we are staying very focused on increasing vector supply as we get into the first half of next year. And so I don't have the ability to give you any additional information for next year. But, obviously, we'll continue to update you on future calls.

Samit Hirawat
Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer, Global Drug Development at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Yeah. And as it relates to the doses, again, on Deucravacitinib in UC and CD, there are some similarities in the doses, but we have optionality over here to amend and change the dose and dosing patterns here. So we'll continue to work with our DMC as well as our clinical trial teams are looking into the data to see if there are any adjustments needed for either of the two trials.

Giovanni Caforio
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Bristol-Myers Squibb

Thanks, everyone. Thanks again for participating in the call. We had a great quarter with very, very strong performance. The launch portfolio continues to progress. In line brands are growing strongly. We look forward to the opportunity to continue to discuss the evolution of the pipeline and the future outlook of the company when we get together in the middle of November for our Investor Day. Tim and the rest of his team will be available throughout the day to answer any other questions you have. Thanks, and have a good day.

Operator

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