Gartner Q4 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • In 2021, Gartner delivered 16% contract value growth, 15% revenue growth, 57% EBITDA growth and generated $1.3 billion free cash flow, while repurchasing nearly $1.7 billion of stock.
  • For 2022, the company forecasts at least 11% FX-neutral revenue growth, a 20% EBITDA margin, adjusted EPS of $6.74 and at least $850 million in free cash flow.
  • Its Global Business Sales segment achieved 24% contract value growth in 2021, and Gartner sees a roughly $145 billion total addressable market with less than $1 billion current penetration.
  • Gartner plans double-digit headcount increases across Global Technology Sales and Global Business Sales in 2022, aiming to align sales costs with revenue growth and support future expansion.
  • The conferences segment, despite 78% revenue growth in 2021, is expected to see a 7% reported decline (10% adjusted) in 2022 as destination events remain fully virtual, pressuring margins.
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Earnings Conference Call
Gartner Q4 2021
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There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for Gartner's 4th quarter 2021 earnings call and hope you are well. With me on the call today are Gene Hall, Chief Executive Officer and Craig Safian, Chief Financial Officer. This call will include a discussion of Q4 2021 financial results and Gartner's outlook for 2022 as disclosed in today's earnings release and earnings supplement, both posted to our website, investor. Gartner.com.

Operator

Following comments by Gene and Craig, who will open up the call for your questions. We ask that you limit your questions to 1 and a follow-up. On the call, unless stated otherwise, All references to EBITDA are for adjusted EBITDA, but the adjustments is described in our earnings release and supplement. All growth rates in Gene's comments are FX neutral, unless stated otherwise. Reconciliations for all non GAAP numbers we use are available in the Investor Relations section of the gartner.com website.

Operator

Finally, all contract values and associated growth rates we discuss are based on 2021 foreign exchange rates unless stated otherwise. As set forth in more detail in today's earnings release, certain statements made on this call may constitute forward looking statements. Forward looking statements can vary materially from actual results and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those contained in the company's 2020 Annual Report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q as well as in other filings with the SEC. I encourage all of you to review the risk factors listed in these documents. Now, I will turn the call over to Gartner's Chief Executive Officer, Gene Hall.

Speaker 1

Good morning and thanks for joining us. 2021 was a great year for Gartner. We performed well across the business. Contract value growth accelerated to 16%. We delivered strong performances in revenue, EBITDA and free cash flow and we repurchased almost $1,700,000,000 of stock.

Speaker 1

Research continues to be our largest and most profitable segment. Our Reacher segment provides actionable objective insight to executives and their teams. Our expert guidance and tools enable faster, smarter decisions and stronger performance on an organization's mission critical priorities. We serve leaders across all major enterprise functions in every industry around the world. Our market opportunity is vast across all sectors, sizes and geographies, and we're delivering more value than ever.

Speaker 1

In today's world, client priorities include things like transforming to a digital business, protecting cybersecurity, competing in the war for talent, Building a diverse, equitable and inclusive organization, whether and how to return to offices, managing supply chain disruptions and more. These are really hard problems and our clients rely on us for insights they can't get anywhere else. Research revenue grew 12% for the full year. Total contract value growth was 16% at the top end of our medium term outlook. We serve executives and their teams through distinct sales channels.

Speaker 1

Global Technology Sales or GTS source leaders and their teams within IT. GTS contract value grew 14% for the full year. Global Business Sales or GBS serves leaders in their teams beyond IT. This includes HR, supply chain, finance, marketing, sales, legal and more. GBS contract value grew an impressive 24% for the year.

Speaker 1

Enterprise leaders and their teams benefit from the same Gartner value proposition regardless of role. We've demonstrated this in technology, Supply Chain, Marketing and now across all the other major functions. We're providing value to our clients and prospects and our focus on relentless execution of proven practices will continue. Our conferences business also delivered excellent performance in 2021. Conferences revenue grew 78% for the full year.

Speaker 1

We continue to provide great value for clients through ongoing innovation of our virtual offerings and we return to in person Avanta events. As conditions continue to stabilize, we are operationally prepared to return to in person conferences where and when we can. We'll continue to leverage our profitable virtual conferences as appropriate. Gartner Consulting is an extension of Gartner Research. Consulting helps clients execute their most strategic initiatives through deeper extended project based work.

Speaker 1

Consulting is an important complement to our IT research business. Consulting revenue grew 9% for the full year. So we had strong performances across the business in 2021. Gartner is a growth company. We are great candidates and continue to invest in our associates in support of future growth.

Speaker 1

In 2021, we ramped up our recruiting capacity. We're seeing great success in hiring in the challenging labor market. With the rapid acceleration of our business, we have some catch up hiring and normal growth hiring planned for this year. Getting back to our normal growth hiring will position us for long term sustained double digit growth. As we accelerate hiring, we plan to manage sales costs to grow roughly in line with revenue over the long term.

Speaker 1

A core element of our strategy is to continuously innovate and improve, so we get better, faster, stronger every year. We're innovating to provide increasing value to clients through improved user experiences, interactive tools and ever greater insights. We're also continuing to improve our internal processes. So our sales, research and service associates can spend even more time working with clients and prospects. In closing, we performed well in 2021.

Speaker 1

We expect to deliver a strong performance in 2022. We have a compelling value proposition and a large untapped market opportunity. Over the longer term, we're well positioned to drive strong top line growth with modest margin expansion from our normalized 2021 levels. We generate significant free cash flow in excess of net income. We'll deploy that cash flow to return capital to our shareholders through share repurchases and to make strategic tuck in acquisitions.

Speaker 1

With that, I'll hand the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Craig Sapien. Craig?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Gene, and good morning. 4th quarter results were again excellent with acceleration in our contract value growth rate and strength in revenue, EBITDA and free cash flow. As our 2022 guidance highlights, we expect double digit FX neutral revenue growth and a margin of 20% even while increasing our hiring and restoring costs to invest for the future. Our financial performance for the full year 2021 included total contract value up 16%, total revenue growth of 15%, EBITDA growth of 57%, diluted adjusted EPS of $9.22 up 89% and free cash flow of $1,300,000,000 up 53% year over year. 4th quarter revenue was $1,300,000,000 up 17% year over year as reported and 18% FX neutral.

Speaker 2

In addition, total contribution margin was 69%, up nearly 100 basis points versus the prior year. EBITDA was $307,000,000 up 25% year over year and up 26% FX neutral. Adjusted EPS was $2.99 up 88% and free cash flow in the quarter was $214,000,000 down 10% against a very tough compare. Research revenue in the 4th quarter grew 17% year over year as reported and on an FX neutral basis. We drove both strong retention and new business in the quarter.

Speaker 2

4th quarter research contribution margin was 74%, up almost 180 basis points versus 2020. Higher than normal contribution margins reflect improved operational effectiveness, continued avoidance of travel expenses and lower than planned headcount. For the full year 2021, research revenues increased by 14% on a reported basis and 12% FX neutral. The gross contribution margin for the year was 74%, up more than 190 basis points from the prior year. Total contract value or total CV was $4,200,000,000 at the end of the 4th quarter, up 16% versus the prior year.

Speaker 2

CV Growth outperformed our expectations throughout the year. Quarterly net contract value increase or NCVI was a very strong $266,000,000 Quarterly NCVI is a helpful way to measure contract value performance in the quarter even though there is notable seasonality in this metric. Looking at the quarterly NCVI across 2021, we generated more NCVI earlier in the year than we have historically. We also had a higher than normal level of NCVI earlier in the quarters than usual. Both of these timing factors contributed to strong subscription research revenue in 2021.

Speaker 2

Total CV growth was led by the manufacturing, services and technology industries. Looking at the roles we serve, technology research, which is sold by our GTS team accelerated to 14% growth and all of our GBS practices achieved double digit growth rates with the majority growing more than 20% year over year. Growth in the Q4 was led by the supply chain, HR and sales practices. Global Technology sales contract value $3,400,000,000 at the end of the 4th quarter, up 14% versus the prior year. GTS had quarterly NCVI of $205,000,000 in the quarter.

Speaker 2

While retention for GTS was 106% for the quarter, up almost 7.90 basis points year over year, GTS new business was up 17% versus last Gear. CTS quota bearing headcount increased by over 80 salespeople sequentially to 3,072. We are seeing the positive effects of our investments to ramp up recruiting capacity combined with moderating attrition. We continue to be successful recruiting new sales people. We expect to see ongoing expansion of the GTS TS sales team into 2022 and beyond.

Speaker 2

For 2022, we are planning to grow GTS headcount at double digit rates. A regular full set of GTS metrics can be found in the appendix of our earnings supplement. Global business sales contract value was $874,000,000 at the end of the Q4, up 24% year over year, which is above the high end of our medium term outlook of 12% to 16%. GBS CV increased $61,000,000 from the 3rd quarter. Wallet retention for GBS was 115% for the quarter, up about 14 percentage points year over year.

Speaker 2

GBS new business was up 16% compared to last year, reflecting strong growth across the full portfolio. GBS quota bearing headcount increased sequentially and is up 10% year over year. For 2022, we are planning to increase GBS headcount at a double digit growth rate. As with GTS, our regular full set of GBS metrics can be found in the appendix of our earnings supplement. Conferences revenue for 4th quarter was $107,000,000 with reported growth of 15% 16% FX neutral.

Speaker 2

Contribution margin in the quarter was 61%. You will recall that in 2020, we ran almost all of our conferences in the Q4, while in 2021, our conferences took place throughout the year. This plus in person conference cancellation costs recorded in the quarter resulted in a lower contribution margin year over year. We held 13 virtual conferences in the quarter. We held over 140 Avanta meetings with a mix of both virtual and in person experiences.

Speaker 2

For the full year 2021, revenue increased 78% both on a reported and FX neutral basis. Gross contribution margin was 62%, up more than 14 percentage points from 2020. During 2021, we incurred costs which would have allowed us to run-in person destination conferences had pandemic conditions permitted. 4th quarter consulting revenues increased by 26% year over year to $118,000,000 On an FX neutral basis, revenues were up 27%. Consulting contribution margin was 39% in the 4th quarter, up more than 12 percentage points versus the prior year quarter with strong revenue and the mix benefit from contract optimization.

Speaker 2

Labor based revenues were $87,000,000 up 19% versus Q4 of last year and up 21% on an FX neutral basis. Backlog at December 31 was $117,000,000 increasing 13% year over year on an FX neutral basis after another strong bookings quarter. Our contract optimization business was up 44% on both a reported and FX neutral basis versus the prior year. As we have detailed in the past, this part of the consulting segment is highly variable. Full year consulting revenue was up 11% on a reported basis and 9% on an FX neutral basis.

Speaker 2

Gross contribution margin of 38% was up over 700 basis points from 2020. Consolidated cost of services increased 14% year over year in the 4th quarter, both on a reported and FX neutral basis. The increase was in part due to higher compensation costs and conference expenses. SG and A increased 27% year over year in the quarter on a reported and FX neutral basis. SG and A increased in the quarter as a result of a $50,000,000 non recurring real estate charge, higher variable compensation resulting from strong sales and overall business performance, increased hiring across the company and conference cancellation costs.

Speaker 2

SG and A without the facilities related charge would have increased 17% year over year and would have been 47% of revenue in the quarter. We expect SG and A expenses to increase over time as our hiring across the business continues to ramp. The real estate charge was a result of our decision to reduce our real estate The non recurring non cash charge is excluded from EBITDA. We continue to evaluate our real estate portfolio which may result in additional charges in the future. For the full year, cost of services increased 7% on a reported basis and 6% on an FX neutral basis.

Speaker 2

SG and A increased 6% on a reported basis and 4% on an FX neutral basis in 2021. EBITDA for the Q4 was $307,000,000 up 25% year over year on a reported basis and up 26 percent FX neutral. EBITDA for the full year was $1,290,000,000 a 57% increase over 2020 on a reported basis and up 54% FX neutral. Depreciation in the quarter was about flat versus 2020. Net interest expense Excluding deferred financing costs in the quarter was $30,000,000 up $5,000,000 versus the Q4 of 2020 due to an increase in total debt balances.

Speaker 2

The Q4 adjusted tax rate, which we use for the calculation of adjusted net income was negative 8.3% for the quarter and included a benefit from the intercompany sale of intellectual property. The tax rate for the items used to adjust net income was 24.1% for the quarter. The adjusted tax rate for the full year was 18.1%. Adjusted EPS in Q4 was $2.99 This excludes non recurring real estate charge. For the full year, adjusted EPS was $9.22 EPS growth for the year was 89%.

Speaker 2

The weighted average fully diluted share count for the Q4 was 83,800,000. Operating cash flow for the quarter was $235,000,000 down 10% compared to last year's quarter, which was very strong. On a year over year basis, the timing of cash taxes had a sizable impact. Cash flow in the quarter includes $17,000,000 of insurance proceeds from 2020 event cancellations. CapEx for the quarter was $21,000,000 down 8% year over year.

Speaker 2

Lower CapEx is largely a function of lower real estate investments. Free cash flow for the quarter was $214,000,000 Free cash flow growth continues to be an important part of our business model with modest CapEx needs and upfront client payments. Free cash flow as a percent of revenue or free cash flow margin was 23% on a rolling 4 quarter basis adjusted for the $167,000,000 of insurance proceeds received during the year. Free cash flow is well in excess of both GAAP and adjusted net income. At the end of the Q4, we had $756,000,000 of cash.

Speaker 2

Our December 31 debt balance was $2,500,000,000 Our reported gross debt to trailing 12 month EBITDA was under 2 times. Our expected free cash flow generation and excess cash remaining on the balance sheet provide ample liquidity to deliver on our capital allocation strategy of share repurchases and Strategic Tuck in M and A. We repurchased around $1,700,000,000 in stock during 2021, including about $200,000,000 in the 4th quarter. We repurchased over 7,000,000 shares reducing our net share count by around 7%. Earlier this month, the Board again increased our share repurchase authorization.

Speaker 2

We now have around $1,000,000,000 available. As we continue to repurchase shares, we expect our capital base will shrink. This is accretive to earnings per share and combined with growing profits also delivers increasing returns on invested capital over time. Before providing the 2022 guidance details, I want to discuss our base level assumptions and planning philosophy for 2022. For research, we continue to innovate and provide a very compelling value proposition for clients and prospects.

Speaker 2

Executives and their teams face uncertainty and challenges. They recognize how Gartner can help. We have demand in good times and bad. Our 2021 performance benefited from several factors including QBH tenure mix, NCVI phasing within the quarters and the year, record retention rates and strong non subscription growth. We're not assuming all of those persist at the same levels through 2022.

Speaker 2

We've taken a balanced approach based on historical trends and patterns, which we've reflected in the guidance. If NICFI phasing, retention rates and non subscription growth performed closer to the way they did in 2021, there would be upside to our guidance. In addition, our teams are focused on driving growth faster than what's embedded in the guidance. For conferences, we are basing our guidance on being 100% virtual for Destination Conferences for the full year. Destination Conferences involve travel, often international and overnight stays for our clients, which can be affected by pandemic conditions and rules.

Speaker 2

As with 2021, we are operationally planning to relaunch in person destination conferences when conditions permit. For our local one day Avanta events, we expect to run most of them in person while continuing to run some virtually. As a reminder, we had about $10,000,000 of extra revenue in the Q1 of 2021 related to extending the period for 2020 conference ticket use. In addition, a smaller portion of research contracts will be attributed to the conferences segment in 2022. Adjusted for these two items, Conferences revenues would be increasing by about 10%.

Speaker 2

For consulting revenues, we have more visibility into the first half based on the composition of our backlog and pipeline as usual. Contract optimization is seasonally slower in the Q1 and remains highly variable. Our base level assumptions for Consolidated expenses reflect significant headcount increases during the year to support current and future growth. We have modeled higher labor costs and T and E well above 2021 levels as we previously indicated. We will also have higher commissions cost during 2022 as a result of the very on selling performance we delivered in 2021.

Speaker 2

Finally, we continue to invest in our tech, both client facing and internal applications as part of our innovation and continuous improvement programs. Our guidance for 2022 is as follows. We expect research revenue of $4,550,000,000 which is reported growth of at least 11% and FX neutral growth of at least 12%. We expect conferences revenue of at least $200,000,000 which is down about 7%, but up about 10% adjusted for the items I mentioned earlier. We expect consulting revenue of at least $425,000,000 which is up 2% reported and 3% FX neutral.

Speaker 2

The result is an outlook for consolidated revenue of at least $5,175,000,000 which is reported growth of at least 9% and FX neutral growth of 11%. Based on current foreign exchange rates and business mix, the consolidated growth includes an FX headwind of about 150 basis points. We expect full year EBITDA of at least $1,035,000,000 which is a decline of about 20%. Based on our revenue and EBITDA guidance, we expect margins of 20%. This is based on conferences running virtual only and also includes an FX headwind of about 150 basis points.

Speaker 2

We expect our full year 2022 adjusted net interest expense to be $115,000,000 We expect an adjusted tax rate of around 22% for 20 22. As a reminder, the tax rate can fluctuate from quarter to quarter. Our EPS guidance is based on 83,000,000 weighted average shares outstanding, which reflects repurchases to offset dilution of equity award issuances. We expect 2022 adjusted EPS of at least $6.74 For 2022, we expect free cash flow of at least $850,000,000 It is also important to note that we have revalued our contract value at current year FX rates, which had a modest overall impact. Our 2021 ending contract value at 2022 FX rates is $3,300,000,000 for GTS and $865,000,000 for GBS.

Speaker 2

Details are included in the appendix of the earnings supplement. All the details of our full year guidance are included on our Investor Relations site. Finally, we expect to deliver at least $285,000,000 of EBITDA in Q1 of 2022. We had a strong year with momentum across the business. Contract value growth accelerated and we had very strong EBITDA, revenue and free cash flow.

Speaker 2

We've been increasing hiring across the business to drive future growth. We put our capital to work repurchasing almost $1,700,000,000 worth of our stock this past year. Looking out over the medium term, our financial model and expectations are unchanged. With 12% to 16% research CV growth, We will deliver double digit revenue growth. With gross margin expansion, sales costs growing in line with CV growth over time and G and A leverage, We can modestly expand margins from the normalized 2021 level.

Speaker 2

We can grow free cash flow at least as fast as EBITDA because of our modest CapEx needs and the benefits of our clients paying us upfront. And we'll continue to deploy our capital on share repurchases, which will lower the share count over time and on strategic value enhancing tuck in M and A. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator and we'll be happy to take your questions. Operator?

Speaker 3

Our first question comes from Jeff Meuler with Baird. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Yes, thank you. Good morning. Perspective on kind of the delta between the constant currency research growth you're assuming and the 16% contract value exit rate. And I want to recognize you have the at least methodology, you have the tougher comps. And then beyond that, I guess I just want to Are there any signs of the demand environment slowing or any sort of slowing because your Q4 Operational metrics all look really good to me exiting the year?

Speaker 4

Or is it all about those other factors as well as the various sectors that you're calling out on NIC fee phasing, non subs, 10 year mix, all of those factors that you referenced.

Speaker 1

Hey, Jeff. It's Gene. I'll get started with the second part of your question, which is in terms of demand, we're seeing what I would characterize as normal demand and it's consistent with Q4. So Demand is very good overall. And I'll turn it over to Craig to answer the more technical aspects.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Gene, and good morning, Jeff. Sure. So when you step back and look at the relationship between CV growth and revenue, Obviously, in a steady state environment, those two things are pretty close. But When we look at our last couple of years, in 2020 CV grew 4%, but research revenue Or actually, research revenue in 2021 grew 13%.

Speaker 2

CV in 2021 grew 16% and we're guiding to research revenue growth of 12% FX neutral. Again, as I mentioned, in a typical steady state environment, CV in the following year research growth rates will generally be similar, not Necessarily right on top of each other, but relatively similar. As we look at 2022, most but not all of our 2022 revenue dollars are driven by our year end 2021 contract value dollars. As we mentioned in the prepared March and as you alluded to, 2021 did benefit from the tenure mix, the NICFI phasing, not only the quarterly NICFI phasing, but the NICFI phasing Within the months of the quarter, we had record retention rates and we also mentioned really, really strong non subscription growth. And so All those things worked in our favor to get pretty strong revenue yield in fiscal year 2021.

Speaker 2

And we're not assuming all of those persist at the same levels that we saw in 2022. And so while CV growth in 'twenty one was at the high end of our medium Term guidance, we're not assuming that we stay all the way up at the top of that medium term guidance. And so essentially what we've done is we've taken a balanced approach based on historical trends and patterns, and we've reflected that in the guidance. As we mentioned, our teams are focused on driving growth that's faster Then what's embedded in the guidance and as we also mentioned in our prepared remarks, if we do perform closer To those 2021 levels on retention rates, NICFI phasing, etcetera, there can potentially be upside to the initial guidance as well.

Speaker 4

Great. Appreciate all the detail. And then on margin, the assumed 20%, I guess, How normalized is that number as a baseline to grow off of? And I guess the factors that come to mind on the negative side would be, Is T and E expense assumed to be fully normalized and GTS sales headcount growth, I think is probably assumed to be accelerating as the year unfolds. So is that fully normalized or an incremental headwind?

Speaker 4

On the potential for uplift, Can you give us any perspective on if conferences are in person, what the incremental margins on that incremental revenue is since you've been planning to Operationally have them and have that capacity in the expense base. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, sure, Jeff. That's actually 3 questions It's buried in one, but I'll attempt to tackle them. In terms of the baseline margins or the normalized level of margins, The way to think about it for 2022 is a normalized level would be around 19% to 20%. And you mentioned a lot of the various puts and takes that lead into that range, T and E being one of them, facilities being one of them, The speed at which we can hire and bring people on board, being one of them. But think of, normalized margins In the 19% to 20% range as being the baseline from a normalized level of what 2021 should look like.

Speaker 2

I think as we look to the future, there are really 2 key points as we think about that normalized level. One, we believe that moving forward, we can grow both the top line at double digit growth rates and modestly expand margins over time. And number 2, the 2021 reported margins are not the starting point. Again, the starting point should be That normalized level of 19% to 20%. On the conferences side, we are being Extraordinarily agile as we attempt to be ready to return to in person destination conferences when if conditions permit.

Speaker 2

As we think about the incremental revenue and the incremental flow through on that, Our current planning assumption is that because we want to change the experience a bit and have More space per person, if you will, that the incremental margins will not be the same as they were pre pandemic. And so the way We are thinking about it right now is that incremental revenue for conferences, if we're actually able to run in person destination conferences, would be in the 20% to 25% Ranged in 2022.

Speaker 4

Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Our next question comes from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Thanks so much. You touched on this a few times in the prepared remarks, but just hoping for an update on recruiting capacity, talent pipeline and whether You've seen any impact on compensation for attracting talent. I know you talked about growing headcount by double digits for both GTS and GBS. And just Wondering if that contemplates that the hiring environment and attrition normalizes and if you've seen any normalization In like attrition, for example, so far, or is it still really challenging to hire as many people as you'd like?

Speaker 1

Hey, Tony, it's Gene. So we are a people business. People are the most important in our business period. And so we pay a lot of attention to it. And obviously, as a growth company, recruiting and turnover are really important as well.

Speaker 1

So we've been throughout 2021, we grew our recruiting capacity so that we could get make sure we can keep hiring associates to support our growth going forward. That's going very well. And in fact, we found that we have a very this is purposeful. We have a very good value proposition in the market for candidates looking for jobs. And so our ability to hire is actually quite good.

Speaker 1

We're quite attractive and we've been very pleased with our ability to hire. We're continuing to wrap up and we'll continue to wrap up recruiting capacity Because we've got to both do catch up hiring from last year for all the great business we sold and then also hire people so that we can support growth in 2023 as well. Our pipeline looks really good. Again, our actual recruiting results are doing quite well as well. In terms of compensation, we look very carefully in each of the markets we're in.

Speaker 1

We're in a number of a large number of markets globally. Inflation and wage inflation varies wildly among those markets. We have modeled that very carefully because we want to make sure we're competitive and built that into our operating plan, the guidance you've seen.

Speaker 5

That's helpful. And wanted to ask a follow-up on the margin pacing. So Should we be thinking about it as the early part of the year has higher EBITDA margins because the hiring will ramp Through the year and so the expense on that for the total pool sort of goes up as the year goes on. And I guess T and E can probably ramp up very, very quickly, but just help us think about how margin should look through the year?

Speaker 2

Yes, good morning, Tony. It's a great question. Yes, I think the way you described it is the right way to think about it. Obviously, We actually, Gene's point, we hired a lot of people in the back half of the year, both in sales, but also in research, in service and lots of other areas as well. But I do think that will continue to ramp over the course of the year, and I think T and E will continue to ramp over the course of the year as well.

Speaker 2

And so probably a little bit higher margin in the first couple of quarters and then moderating in the back half of the year to get to That full year number of around 20%.

Speaker 5

Terrific. Thanks so much.

Speaker 3

Our next question comes from George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to dive a little bit deeper into the headcount expectations for Research. Can you describe which Between GTS and GBS, you're expecting to grow headcount faster in 2022? And then going forward, If you would expect to grow 1 of the 2 GBS, for example, faster in terms of headcount than the other.

Speaker 1

Yes. Hey, George. So, the headcount is going to grow in line with our contract value growth over time. And so since GBS grew faster in 2021, in order to fulfill that All the business we sold, we're going to grow the headcount a little faster in GBS than we would in GTS, just purely because of the differential growth rates, And that will continue over

Speaker 6

time. Great. And then had a follow-up question on the margins. You mentioned normalized margins for 2022 are going to be 19% to 20%. Would you view 19% to 20% as the new low watermark?

Speaker 6

Or do you are you viewing 20%, which is the guidance for 2022 as the new low watermark going forward looking beyond this year?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would consider, George, 'nineteen to 'twenty to be the level at which we modestly expand our margins on an annual basis moving forward. Again, as I mentioned earlier, our goal and we Believe this and we are aiming towards this is that we want to grow the business top line, double digit growth rates, Modestly expand margins over time. And again, that modest expansion will come off of that 19% to 20% baseline. Got it.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Our

Speaker 3

first our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question would be just on the Virtual First approach and how hiring in that manner is affecting recruiting, your Confidence in being able to hire at a double digit pace in this labor market. And then to the extent, It could be a potential offset to compensation pressures, if you're able to kind of target Salespeople in different areas that are potentially lower cost. Is that part of the idea here?

Speaker 7

Just your thoughts on kind of virtual first in the recruiting side.

Speaker 1

Hi, Andrew. So the virtual first is a core part of our people strategy. In our talent market, we found that both our current associates as well as prospective associates like the idea of an environment where They can work remotely when it makes sense to work remotely, but there's still a great office space where they can go work collaboratively as well. And so our Virtual First strategy is about having that mix where if you're, for example, if you're a software engineer and you're writing code, you might You're not really interacting with other people, you may be more effective actually working at a home office than in a normal office environment. Conversely, if you're working on sort of a product development team that's very collaborative and needs to be very agile and working together across multiple functions on a daily basis.

Speaker 1

You may work more in the office then. And so with our Versals First strategy is basically having kind of the best of both, which is Things that make sense to do remotely, you can do remotely. Things that make sense to do in the office where you collaborate or developing people, things like that, You actually do in the office. We found that actually, Meg, in our industry and with our talent market, that's very attractive to, as I said, both our current associates and we talked to prospective associates as well. And so in terms of hiring, that's been very effective.

Speaker 1

In terms of developing people, we've developed new approaches so that we can engage our associates and develop them in a remote environment. I'll also, on that point, Even prior to pandemic, a large portion of our associates were remote as well. So all of our field salespeople were remote, many of our service people were remote. So this isn't new to us actually. We just have expanded it to be broader than it was pre pandemic.

Speaker 1

So we already had experience with it. In terms of so we'll be very successful in hiring in that kind of environment and developing people. In terms of compensation, Basically, we hire people that have the skills where we need them. And part of our strategy is to make sure we hire in attractive labor markets, But it's really more about what are the right skills to meet our clients. And that could be include things like language skills.

Speaker 1

We try to serve all of our clients in their native languages, for example, with our service people and with our sales people. And so we look at the mix of both the skills we need, the talent we need and the cost of hiring and Balance all those things together to determine where we actually hire people.

Speaker 2

And Andrew, the one other thing I'd add Over the back half of the year, we actually made a ton of progress in terms of starting to catch up and starting to make sure that we are hiring to the right levels that we need to support the business. And it was a combination of Adding the recruiting capacity, which we talked about, and which we've been doing and are getting yield from and also seeing moderating Attrition as well. And so the combination of the increase in recruiting capacity and the moderating attrition allowed us to Yes, really start to make great progress in getting people on board over the back half of the year.

Speaker 7

Got it. Thank you. And then for my follow-up, just and I apologize if I missed it. Could you speak to What's driving the NCVI phasing intra quarter or that difference relative to prior periods, if you have any sense for what that is? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. No, it's a really good question. So the dynamics we saw in 2021 We're very different than what we had experienced pre pandemic in the 10 years leading up to Pre pandemic where we had seen pretty consistent, NICI contribution both month 1, month 2, month 3, in terms of that mix and then also Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4. And if you actually just look at even the headline results for 2021, You'll see that in particular, Q2 and Q3 were stronger than the historical proportionality of overall annual NCVI. And yes, I think there are a number of factors driving that.

Speaker 2

One being, we were coming out of very pandemic impacted year in 2020, and things started to Get better from a market perspective as well. And so I think operating budgets opened up, people had visibility into what was happening and people had real problems and they knew Gartner could help. And so that You have certainly contributed to our ability to drive that NIC fee phasing. And I think, look, Operationally, our sales teams recognize that getting deals in the door sooner is great for everybody. Locking them up in an uncertain environment is always a better thing to do, because you never know what can happen or what danger is lurking around the corner, as they say.

Speaker 2

And again, the teams did great work on making that happen. As we look at 2021 and we compare it to the decade previous, we didn't want to assume That all of a sudden we were going to revert exactly to 2021 levels across the board. And so again, just balancing that historical perspective with what we experienced in 2021 is how we built the plan for 2022.

Speaker 3

Our next question comes from Hamzah Mihari with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hi, this is Mario Cortellacci filling in for Hamzah. Maybe you can just start with How should we think about your market share in the GBS business today and your verticals, obviously supply chain marketing, finance, HR, and Maybe you can compare that to where the market share sits today for the GTS business.

Speaker 1

Yes. Hi, Mario. So it's the way I guess the best way to think about it would be if you look at like the total Amount of contract value or the total amount of seats in GTS versus in GBS. So in GTS, It's a business that's growing quite rapidly, growing double digit rates and is much larger than each of the individual practices. In many case, it's more than 10 times larger than the biggest practices in the in GBS, especially for example, HR or finance.

Speaker 1

And so the opportunity in GBS for each of those practices is to be as big for HR, finance, It's sales, customer service, each of those practices has potential to be as big as our IT and user business. So they can grow more than 10 times as big, each one of them. And so the growth opportunity there is just enormous. And so if you want to think about share in some way, It's extremely small compared to GTS, which still GTS again Has a huge untapped architecture in and of itself. So the runway for each of the practices in GBS is enormous and is comparable to what we have at the end user side of the GTS.

Speaker 2

And Mario, just to put it in sort of quantitative perspective as well, just to add to that, when we look at our available Market opportunity, we see a roughly $55,000,000,000 market in the markets that we sell to in GTS, And we've got $3,200,000,000 $3,300,000,000 of that. On the GBS side, we see a market opportunity of We are close to $145,000,000,000 and we've got under $1,000,000,000 of it. So, and again, as we think about these markets, It's not like we have to steal share of wallet from someone else. We view these as very large untapped market opportunities for us to go after. And again, that's why we really do believe that we can grow this business at consistent double digit growth rates into the future and salespeople, etcetera, because of that, the market dynamics and the size of the market opportunity.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. And then just for my follow-up within the consulting business, maybe you can just talk to which verticals or businesses inside of that business have performed better than others. And could you update us on what the competitive dynamic looks like there today? I don't know whether you compete With Robert Hass Protiviti Business or any of the other big fours there?

Speaker 1

So, yes, so Mario, in our consulting business, we're actually highly differentiated. The role of our consulting business is the way to think about it is as an extension of our research business and that there are some clients that want more in-depth and longer engagements with us than we have our research business. In research, we have our written research and other kinds of tools and things. In addition to that, we have the ability to talk to an analyst, typically for a half an hour at a time. Some companies, particularly large companies, would like more in-depth help from Gartner.

Speaker 1

And so that's the role of our consulting business and it's a very important role and supports our overall business. And so There's no it's really think about it as supporting our oral research business and fulfilling that need for much more in-depth help And you would get from just reading our documents and having shorter calls with analysts.

Speaker 3

There are no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to Gene Hall for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

So as you heard in today's call, we performed well in 2021. We also expect to deliver a strong performance in 2022. We have a compelling value proposition and a large untapped market opportunity. Over the longer term, we're well positioned to drive strong top line growth with modest margin expansion from our normalized 2021 levels. We generate significant free cash flow in excess of net income, and we'll deploy that cash flow to return capital to our shareholders through share repurchases and to make strategic tuck in acquisitions.

Speaker 1

Thanks for joining us today, and we look forward to updating you again next quarter.