Hologic Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to Hologic's Third Quarter Fiscal 2022 Earnings Conference call. My name is Cody and I am your operator for today's call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute and I would now like to introduce Ryan Simon, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ryan Simon
Vice President, Investor Relations at Hologic

Thank you. Cody. Good afternoon and thank you for joining Hologic's third quarter fiscal 2022 earnings call. With me today are Steve MacMillan, the company's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Karleen Oberton, our Chief Financial Officer. Our third quarter press release is available now on the Investor's section of our website along with an updated corporate presentation. We will also post our prepared remarks to our website shortly after we deliver them. And a replay of this call will be available through August 26.

Before we begin, we would like to inform you that certain statements we make today will be forward looking. These statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied. Such factors include those referenced in the Safe Harbor statement included in our earnings release and SEC filings. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation to GAAP can be found in our earnings release. Two of these non-GAAP measures are, one, organic revenue, which we define as constant currency revenue, excluding the divested blood screening business and revenue from acquired businesses owned by Hologic for less than one year.

And two, organic revenue excluding COVID-19, which excludes COVID-19 assay revenue, revenue related to COVID-19 and discontinued product sales in Diagnostics. Finally, any percentage changes we discuss will be on a year-over-year basis and revenue growth rates will be in constant currency unless otherwise noted.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Steve MacMillan, Hologic's CEO.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Thank you, Ryan and good afternoon, everyone. We are pleased to discuss our financial results for the third quarter of fiscal 2022. Our results continue to showcase the strength, durability and diversity of our business. Total revenue was just over $1 billion and non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.95, both numbers exceeded the midpoint of our guidance on the top and bottom lines. The result of both in during COVID revenue and also strong performances in our core Diagnostics and Surgical businesses.

In this dynamic and ever-changing world, we continue to live our purpose, passion and promise to enable healthier lives everywhere, everyday and the global champions for Women's Health. In doing so, our industry-leading products continue to reach even more patients around the world while our business deliver strong financial performance and value for our shareholders. To put it simply, the durability and diversity of our business enable Hologic to succeed in this challenging macro environment as we navigate a multitude of headwinds. Our confidence in our business remains steady and remains high.

Looking longer term, our message is also unchanged. We are confident despite the current turbulence that our previously announced 5% to 7% annual organic revenue growth rate through 2025 remains an achievable target provided the current chip headwind normalizes as we expect.

Ahead of turning the call over to Karleen to discuss our financial results in more detail, we'd like to highlight growth drivers and provide updates on each of our businesses, Diagnostics, Breast Health, and Surgical, and to close, we are excited to share our experience from the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in May and experience that reaffirms the importance of our place and our voice on the world stage advocating for women's health, especially now.

Before jumping into each division, it is important to revisit the impact of COVID on our business. The reality is that whether the demand for COVID testing is high or low, we are poised to succeed either way. We have a natural COVID hedge. As we have seen over the past two years, COVID prevalence affect each of our base businesses. As COVID cases rise, elective well-woman exams, screenings, and surgical procedures are often postponed. Conversely, as COVID declines, our base business strengthens.

As we responded with unprecedented speed to answer the world's needs for highly reliable molecular COVID testing, we also dramatically strengthened our company for the future. We also know that many of you are trying to gauge the longer-term impact and durability of our additional Panther placements as well as the impact of our various acquisitions over the last couple of years in Diagnostics and Surgical. The truth is the various surges in COVID cases around the world through many of the last quarters have often created wide variability in the comps as some quarters reflect times of significant non-COVID-related hospital and doctor visits slowdowns while others bounce back stronger in various varying geographies in any given quarter.

When we last reported in April, for example, our core Diagnostic and Surgical businesses posted year-over-year growth rates of 4% and 3.5% respectively, amidst to the COVID surge at the time. So for anyone questioning these admittedly lower growth rates, we want to highlight two numbers from this quarter. The first number, 22.4%, that was the growth in our global molecular Diagnostics business. And the second number, 9.7%, that was the growth in our Surgical business this quarter.

Now, we'd encourage two simple takeaways from these results. One, these businesses have strong underlying growth, and two, the true growth rate is somewhere in between last quarter's results and this quarter's, underscoring the need to view how our strength evolves over time and given the variability of COVID, that no single quarter result is going to match a linear model.

Now, shifting gears to the businesses. First, in Diagnostics, with COVID testing significantly down sequentially, our third quarter provided an opportunity for customers to validate and run more non-COVID assays on their Panther systems. As a result, our Diagnostics business grew 15% excluding COVID year-over-year worldwide, a truly phenomenal result and one that demonstrates the impact of women returning to their wellness exams and procedures.

Even more impressive, as mentioned earlier, our global molecular diagnostics business grew over 22% excluding COVID in the period, an early yet clear sign, that our expanded Panther install base is, A, being utilized, and B, will prevail as an instrument of choice as customers consolidate their molecular testing menu to high throughput, high automation platforms. For more color on the growth drivers within molecular diagnostics, performance was driven by a combination of both legacy and new assays, namely the BV, CV/TV vaginitis panel, M. gen, CT/NG, and our respiratory menu on the Panther Fusion, to name a few. Our vaginitis panel continues to outperform and deliver impressive growth on both the sequential and year-over-year basis. As we have previously stated, the vaginitis panel is well positioned to become a top three assay in our molecular diagnostic portfolio over time.

International diagnostics was also a bright spot in the quarter. The business grew 16.5% excluding COVID, driven primarily by our virology portfolio. As expected, Panther placements slowed 59 new systems placed in the quarter with nearly 70% of these placed internationally. While the decline from the 119 and 123 systems placed in our first two quarters, annualizing Q3's placement lands within our historic run rate of about 225 to 250 placements per year. As a reminder, Panther sales have minimal impact to the molecular diagnostics growth rate as assays are the primary driver of growth by far.

Further, placements at lower levels going forward is consistent with our expectations, given we have increased our Panther footprint by nearly 85% since the start of the pandemic. We now have roughly 3,200 Panthers installed worldwide. To close out the Diagnostics update, our Biotheranostics business was again a highlight for the quarter posting $18.9 million in sales, representing outstanding growth of 43%.

Moving onto Breast Health. First and foremost, as to chip supply, we reiterate our statement from last quarter. We believe the third and fourth quarters of our fiscal 2022 will prove to be the low watermark in terms of chip availability for our gantries. Working closely with our suppliers, we observed positive trends in Q3. These positive trends include stabilizing lead times, procurement through a combination of channels, and most importantly, narrowing the breadth and depth of tight supply. Although we remain optimistic these positive trends will maintain throughout the remainder of our fiscal year, the situation remains fluid.

As for gantries, demand remains strong. Our best-in-class technology, service, and customer satisfaction continues to differentiate and separate us from the competition. In addition, our sales force continues to place orders in line with quotas set prior to the chip headwind surfacing and there has been no meaningful change to the rate of canceled orders. On the chip supply chain recovery, while we are not providing fiscal 2023 guidance on this call, we do anticipate that chip supply, and thus, gantry availability will be recovering throughout fiscal 2023 and continue into 2024.

Next, in Surgical. The business returned to strong performance posting 9.7% revenue growth in the third quarter. This growth was driven primarily by the combination of MyoSure, our Fluent Fluid Management System, and Bolder. As a reminder, our MyoSure devices are used for fibroid and tissue removal and the Fluent System is complementary to MyoSure, assisting physicians with hysteroscopic procedures. The Fluent System simplifies and streamlines the historically complicated and cumbersome fluid management workflow used in these procedures.

While MyoSure and Fluent sales represent the lion's share of surgical growth in the quarter, we are also very excited by the growth from our laparoscopic portfolio. Both the Acessa procedure and Bolder devices that we acquired to add growth and diversify the franchise performed well. Specifically, we are excited by the incremental progress in sales of the Acessa procedure, smaller numbers but revenue growth of nearly 50% year-over-year, a meaningful step in increasing the utilization of this novel procedure.

Acessa's growth was driven primarily by two factors.

Factors. First, excellent efforts from our team to increase patient covered lives to 84% compared to 26% when we first acquired the business about 2 years ago. With this critical mass of covered lives, which is often considered table stakes by many physicians, more doors were opened. Second growth was also driven by more physician access to conduct monitored cases. Access was both in person and also via our innovative virtual case monitoring platform. This virtual system was implemented, specifically to address physician access challenges created by COVID. As the COVID pandemic moves gradually to an endemic state and physician access improves, we are confident that assessment will be a meaningful growth contributor going forward.

And finally, as many of you know, in May, we had the opportunity to participate at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting held in Davos, Switzerland. At the Forum, we met with world leaders and change makers to further our mission and champion women's health. Our message was clear. Putting women's health at the forefront was long overdue. The time to elevate women's health with the help of science backed data to guide decisions and policy making is now. As we have said before, women's health is the cornerstone of families, communities, societies and economies around the world with insights from our Hologic Global Women's Health Index, project healthy quality and decades of leadership in women's health, we came to the form to make a difference.

We left the Forum knowing we had. We understand change does not move in a straight line and we are committed to supporting women every step of the way. Before we turn the call over to Karleen, to conclude, we want to repeat that our third quarter results give us even more confidence in the strength of our business. This confidence is rooted in our demonstrated ability to absorb and adapt to the pressures and the headwinds of this dynamic macro environment. As the current pressures and headwinds subside over time, we are in a strong position to continue our durable growth trajectory for quarters and years to come.

With that, let me turn the call over to Karleen.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Thank you, Steve and good afternoon, everyone. We are very pleased to share third quarter results that once again significantly exceeded our guidance for both revenue and non-GAAP EPS. Our third quarter financial performance highlights to strength of our core Diagnostics and Surgical businesses also was surpassed our long-term revenue target of 5% to 7% growth in the period. In our Breast Health business, although we continue to see headwinds related to semiconductor chip availability, as Steve mentioned, we remain optimistic about the supply environment will start to improve in our fiscal 2023.

In terms of COVID-19 testing, we continue to showcase our agility in responding to highly variable global demand. And while we continue to meet our customers' COVID testing needs, we also have delivered on robust demand for our non-COVID molecular diagnostics menu. Finally, cash flow generation in the third quarter was very strong, again coming in above pre-pandemic levels. As a result, our balance sheet remains in exceptional pillar of strength.

Moving on, we will now provide more color on our financial results. In the third quarter both topline performance and bottom line profitability, we're well ahead of previous estimates. Total revenue came in just above $1 billion more than $100 million higher than the midpoint of our guidance. And non-GAAP EPS was $0.95, $0.25 higher than the midpoint of our prior guide. Turning to our business results in Diagnostics, global revenue was $560.1 million declined 30.6% compared to the prior year. However, excluding COVID assay revenue related ancillaries and a small amount of revenue from discontinued products, Worldwide Organic Diagnostics revenue increased 15%, a great result against a solid comp in the prior year.

As a reminder, our organic results for fiscal Q3 2022 include biodiagnostics and diagonal revenue, as these transactions have now annualized. Within Diagnostics, our molecular business was exceptionally strong in the fiscal third quarter. Excluding the impact of COVID-19, molecular revenue grew over 22% organically in the period, underlining this excellent result with strong utilization across our base molecular menu.

As Steve highlighted, growth from our vaginitis panel led the way, while our Neurology portfolio also delivered strong performance. In addition, we saw stability in our core STI menu in the period, affirming our leadership position in women's health and diagnostics. While these diagnostics results include a small amount of residual demand from the adverse impact of COVID felt in the second quarter, molecular franchise continues to be a key catalyst of our future growth. We are very encouraged to see customers transition additional menu onto our Panther systems as COVID testing demand declines.

As it relates to our COVID results, we generated $173 million of COVID assay revenue in the quarter, exceeding our guidance of $100 million. We shipped about 8.1 million tests to customers, reflecting a global ASP of approximately $21. Although ASP held steady this quarter, we still believe the pricing will eventually fall as reimbursement declines. In terms of COVID assay revenue split by geography, domestic demand was strong while international demand decline throughout the quarter. The U.S. COVID assay revenue represented approximately 60% of total COVID testing revenue in the period.

A flip in geographic COVID demand versus the prior year and just going to the variability of COVID revenue. Rounding out diagnostics, our cytology and perinatal business has increased 3.5% compared to the prior year. This result is reflective of patients returning to their well women's exams after postponing these important visits during periods of high COVID prevalence. In Breast Health, global revenue of $282.8 million, was down approximately 18% as expected. Primarily driven by the chip supply shortages we have discussed over the past 6 months. Related to gantries, we performed slightly better than anticipated.

While our acquisition of chips in the quarter met our expectations, we again delivered slight favorability through reclaiming, refurbishing and re-certifying printed circuit points from servicing against gantry installed base. Moving to Interventional Breast, the segment grew over 4% in our fiscal third quarter. This performance was driven by growth in forbearance disposable needles. Customers continue to see the benefit of forbearance differentiated efficient biopsy workflow, especially as the labor resources have become increasingly constrained.

In Surgical, third quarter revenue of $138.1 million, grew almost 10%. We are very pleased with the strong rebound in the business during the period as positive procedural trends exiting our second fiscal quarter continued through June. Following this quarter's performance for Surgical was a nice lift from MyoSure and the related Fluent, Fluid Management System Plus Boulder.

Lastly, in our Skeletal business, as expected, revenue of $21.7 million decreased approximately 14% compared to the prior year period. Now let's move on to the Breast of the non-GAAP P&L for the third quarter. Gross margin of 63.3% was ahead of our forecast, driven by the higher than expected COVID-19 testing volume and strong results in our base businesses in the period. Total operating expenses of $311.2 million in the third quarter increased less than 1% compared to the prior year. The increase in operating expenses, which driven by spend within marketing and R&D, partially offset by less G&A and sales expense.

However, when we normalize spending from Mobidiag and Bolder, operating expenses decreased 3% compared to the prior year. Finally, our tax rate in Q3 was 21%, as expected. Putting these pieces together, operating margin for Q3 came in at 32.3% and net margin was 24.1%, both above pre-pandemic levels. Non-GAAP net income finished at $241.5 million and non-GAAP EPS was $0.95.

Moving on from the P&L, cash flow from operations was $330.6 million in the third quarter. These robust cash flows continue to provide tremendous financial and strategic flexibility. Based on this strong operational performance, we had $2.4 billion of cash on our balance sheet, and our leverage ratio with 0.2 times. As we've previously previously stated, we are comfortable building our cash balance during this challenging macro backdrop. That said, we continue to diligently pursue M&A opportunities in each one of our businesses. Finally, while there were no cash repurchases during the quarter, our share repurchase program remains an ongoing part of our capital deployment framework. So far, this fiscal year, we have repurchased approximately 5.2 million shares for $367 million, a sizable outlay of funds.

Now, let's move on to our updated non-GAAP financial guidance for the fourth quarter and full year fiscal 2022. As a reminder, our organic guidance excludes acquisition revenue until each deal annualizes. Therefore, our fourth quarter guidance only excludes Bolder revenue from our organic base. Given our strong third quarter performance, we are once again increasing our full-year revenue and EPS guidance. For the full year, we now see total revenue in the range of $4.75 billion to $4.78 billion, and EPS of $5.79 to $5.84, representing an increase of $115 million on the top line and $0.26 on the bottom line compared to the midpoint of our previous guidance.

With only one quarter remaining in our fiscal year, this annual guidance implies revenue of $840 million to $870 million and EPS of $0.60 to $0.65 for our fiscal fourth quarter. With respect to foreign exchange, given the unabated strength of the U.S. dollar, we are assuming an FX headwind of slightly more than $20 million in our fourth quarter of 2022, nearly $10 million higher than our prior guidance incorporated for the quarter.

In terms of COVID sales, we expect COVID assay sales to be at least $70 million in the fourth quarter of 2022 and $1.35 billion for the full year. COVID-related items, inclusive of the small amount of discontinued product revenue are expected to be slightly less than $35 million in the fourth quarter and $215 million for the full year. As it relates to the Breast Health chip shortage, although we had marginal improvement versus expectations in Q3, guidance on the gantry revenue shortfall for the fourth quarter remains unchanged from our prior messaging.

Moving down the P&L. For the full year, we forecast our non-GAAP gross margin percentage to be in the high 60s and our non-GAAP operating margin percentage in the high 30s to approximately 40%. Both estimates are well above pre-pandemic levels. Further, our Q4 guidance incorporates the margin impact from our Breast Health supply chain revenue shortfall. As a reminder, gantry gross margins are accretive to the consolidated averages and we have maintained operating spend to be in a position to move quickly once we receive chips. In addition, we have again incorporated elevated costs into our Q4 guidance as it relates to electronics, plastics, and logistics.

In terms of operating expenses, we expect spending to be down a few million dollars sequentially. Below operating income, we expect other expenses net to be around $20 million in our fiscal fourth quarter. Our guidance is based on an effective tax rate of 21% and diluted shares outstanding of around $250 million for the full year. Finally, although we will update everyone on our fiscal '23 guidance during our Q4 call next quarter, I would remind you that the headwinds related to higher input costs, the stronger U.S. dollar, and increasing interest rates are unlikely to subside in the near term. Like many other companies, we expect these headwinds to continue into our fourth quarter and into our fiscal 2023. To help offset these pressures, as we do every quarter, we seek out efficiencies in our business and strategically manage pricing where we have the opportunity. Although these temporary challenges are not unique to Hologic, they are important to consider for modeling purposes.

To conclude, let me wrap up by saying that Hologic posted very strong third quarter results underpinned by exceptional growth in molecular diagnostics and a healthy rebound in our Surgical business. We are also once again raising our financial guidance for the year. Now, although the future macro outlook remains cloudy, with a natural hedge to future COVID uncertainties as well as an increasingly strong balance sheet, and best-in-class class cash flow, we are well positioned to continue to deliver strong results for our shareholders.

With that, we ask the operator to open the call for questions.

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Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Jack Meehan with Nephron Research. Please go ahead.

Jack Meehan
Analyst at Nephron Research

Thanks. Good afternoon.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Hey, Jack.

Jack Meehan
Analyst at Nephron Research

Wanted to go into the molecular results and the 22% organic growth ex-COVID. If you look at the Panthers you've installed over the last couple of years for COVID, is it possible to call out now what portion are running something beyond COVID now as well, and also, within that result, can you just break out how much the vaginitis revenue was in the quarter?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

I think from a -- I think selling in the U.S., the majority of our Panthers are running more than COVID for sure. I think we were really pleased with the vaginitis growth, but I don't think we're going to give the absolute number at this time.

Jack Meehan
Analyst at Nephron Research

Okay. And then on the COVID-19 side, would just be great to hear from you what you're hearing from customers and the government around demand as we head into the fall and the winter, just -- you're going to be heading into guidance next quarter, just any early thoughts around how you'll approach setting guidance for the first time for 2023 as it relates to COVID?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah, I think when we get to that point, Jack, we'll probably continue to be conservative on the COVID side. It's been such a roller coaster for the last 27, 28 months, or whatever that it's almost been hard to predict within a quarter. We've watched a quarter start strong and then it dries up and conversely almost like this quarter, last year looked like everything was gone in July and August, and then the Omicron thing hit in -- or Delta hit in September and things started to spike up. So we had so many ups and downs that I think we'll be cautious as we forecast it.

Having said that, I think a lot of what we've said at the very beginning continues to play out, and for those who thought the business was going to be dead when vaccines came in 18, 19 months ago, we continue to say that we always thought this was going to leave a residual business that was probably going to be around for quite some time and might be one of our top three or four assays. And as we sit here today in the world with Japan and a whole bunch of other countries is very high and the U.S., as you know is still running fairly rampant, and we said all along, the goal of herd immunity was not going to be achieved in a mutating virus, that this thing would become more endemic and probably create an opportunity for us to have a more ongoing business.

I think we would see that in full expectations as we go into next fall and winter. This thing is not burned away from the world, so there will be some business, but I think we'll certainly model it on the lower side as we go in because it's just -- we can count on our base businesses. This one truly is, call it opportunistic or its subject. We can't put a linear forecast on it.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Tejas Savant with Morgan Stanley.

Tejas Savant
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Hey, guys. Good afternoon, and thanks for the time here. Steve, one on the capex environment here, I know you mentioned demand for gantries is pretty strong. You don't see an elevated cancellation rate, etc. What's your sort of line of sight into the order book here? We've had some sort of mixed messaging from some of your MedTech peers. Some of them not seeing any impact. Other is kind of like pointing to a softened capex environment here. So just curious just to get your take?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. We're not really seeing or hearing it from our customers and I think to a large degree, it's probably dependent on what products you're offering. Ours in the grand scheme or not a huge capital outlay for the hospital systems. We're also a both revenue and patient generating, topline generating procedure for the hospitals. So I think they will certainly find it. So I think we're not hearing it. But I would say, as always, we're going to plan a little more cautiously and would expect that somewhere over the next couple of years. There is a little bit of contraction here or there in all likelihood, if we go into a recessionary environment. The flip side is, I think we've got pent-up demand and I think even if there is a macro slowdown, we actually believe we've got some micro benefits working that will help us power right through that.

Tejas Savant
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Got it. That's helpful. And then just a follow-up on your commentary around the slope of the recovery here on the GaN free chips. I know in the past you've talked about sort of having to figure out sort of construction timelines and installation timelines with your customers. Have you started to work on any of that here as you look to fiscal '23 and your comments around perhaps the full recovery having to wait until FY '24 here? I mean on the margin a little bit more cautious than what you had shared earlier?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

I wouldn't say it's any more cautious. I think for anybody that's listened to the leaders in the semiconductor industry speak over the last 6 months plus, they've all been saying, look, recovery is not going to even happen throughout 2023 and it's going to go into 2024 and we're largely operating on kind of a quarter to quarter allocation right now. So we're at a cadence that is at least better than where it was, but I do think it's important for us to indicate this doesn't come bouncing back miraculously on the day you flip the calendar to a new fiscal year.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah, I would just add that, our field service engineers, so once you maintain that the gantries in the installed base of the once also be installed. So there is a balancing of our own resources to that recovery as well as hospital schedules.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from Patrick Donnelly with Citi.

Patrick Donnelly
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. Steve, maybe one on the '23 set-up again. You guys aren't going to give guidance, but in terms of the cost and Karleen will touch on a little bit better there at the end, what's the right way to think about some of those with the retired input costs, the dollar obviously the supply chain on the chips. Is the expectation that kind of lingers throughout most of '23 and it's going to slowly works its way back to us in terms of thinking about the margin cadence. It seems like most models going to have it flipping pretty normal almost day one of "23. So just trying to wrap our heads around the right way to think about that cadence of some of that cost pressure lingering into '23, again not surprising that your '23 obviously start pretty soon here, but just trying to get a handle on the right way to think about that piece?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Hey, Patrick, it's Karleen. Let me try to give you some insight there. So we look at our Q4. The Breast Health revenue headwind is probably roughly 400 to 450 basis points of a headwind on operating margins. Now that I think as that business recovers over '23, that will come back over the course of '23. As far as cost, higher cost apply about 200 and 250 basis points headwind on Q4. Now that we think might persist a little longer as inflationary pressures continue. So we think we've got good line of sight to how we get improvement from where we end in Q4.

Patrick Donnelly
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Okay. That's helpful and then just on the molecular growth rates, another question obviously, a number of zooms up page a little bit, can you just talk through. Steve, I guess what goes into that again, obviously the acquisitions rolling into it, they flipped organic, obviously Mobidiag, maybe just talk through the kind of different components, where the real drivers of strength where because again I think that'll be a focus coming out of this and it's obviously a big number?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. Clearly, our new product launches and especially BV, CV, TV, as we've talked vaginitis panel is off to a very nice start. But it's a kind of across the board. It's also still more customers that we sold more Panthers to during the pandemic that are now able to start to take on our core women's health assays. So I think what's remarkable is, it's fairly dispersed growth, which I think both geographically and across product lines. So there is no one that completely dominates and I think that's what gives us a lot of confidence for the future.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah, I would say, of the acquisitions out there, not sticks is probably the most significant component of growth in the quarter. As we would expect, that one which we called out.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from Derik de Bruin with Bank of America.

Unidentified Participant
at Hologic

Hey, this is Richard on for Derrick. So I want to start off on the margins, can you guys still think the 32% to 33% range is the right way to think about fiscal year '23 margins?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah. So what I would say is when we have a normalized chip supply that is exactly the way to think about them in the low 30. I'd point to our Q2 of '20, which was 31.5% operating margin. We believe that is a normalized baseline, if you will, but again that recovery on the chip is going to occur over the course of '23. We're still in that planning stages of how plan, so it won't be kind of Q1 out of the gate likely.

Unidentified Participant
at Hologic

Got it. That makes sense. And then one more like, have you seen any changes on the order book for Breast Health? How much catch-up do you think we could see there as the chip shortage issues gradually go away in '23?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yes, I think as we said in our prepared remarks, we are on, the sales teams are hitting quota that were set prior to the chip shortage. So we haven't seen any deviation in the booking rate. And again, as Steve mentioned, no increase in the cancellation rate. So do you think the business is still solid we're not losing any share. And then it will just be again availability of chips in the scheduling of the installed that will be working on to manage the recovery.

Operator

Thank you. We will take our next question from Vijay Kumar with Evercore.

Vijay Kumar
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Karleen. I had two on the guidance. One on breast imaging. In the prior guidance, we had 59 of headwind or fiscal 2012. I think that number change. It looks like 3Q came in better. What is that updated number and what is the implied breast imaging headwind for Q4. Should Q4 be improving based on 3Q trends?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

So you're right, we did guide to $250 million. It was $50 million in Q2, $100 million in Q3 and $100 million in Q4. We did slightly better. Like you said about $10 million better here in Q3, I think we're holding to the $100 million in Q4. Again, because that favorability, Vijay, was done by kind of blood, sweat and tears of reclaiming and re-certifying circuit boards and just don't know, we'll continue to have those yields in this quarter. So we just stuck to be conservative and not 100 million for Q4.

Vijay Kumar
Analyst at Evercore ISI

That's helpful., then one I just have an opex question. So if you look at the Q4 guidance at the high end, HME of revenue $0.65. EPS, if you in the guide implies opex on a dollar basis a sequentially flattish. If we annualize that Q4 number. I think the implied opex for next year somewhere north of $1.2 billion, is that math correct just based on I think your commentary on hold the opex line. On the assumption that the Cube shortage will be eventually. Thank you.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah. So again, Vijay, for 2023, we're still in the planning process, budgeted process. So not going to comment that I would just daily, instead I would give you is that with our partnership with the WTA, the expense with that is loaded into calendar '22 though -- so the most of that -- then expense is -- disproportionate amount of expenses in our fiscal '22, which will be a tailwind as we get into '23 and '24.

Operator

Thank you. We'll move on to our next question from Mike Matson with Needham.

Joseph Conway
Analyst at Needham & Company LLC

Hi, guys. This is Joseph on for Mike. So I guess during the pandemic, STI rates seem to have spiked, and currently, they still seem to be at or near record highs. Maybe just to start off, can you talk about maybe some of the barriers that are currently in place in the industry that if removed could increase screening rates? And then, maybe a similar question. As we saw with COVID testing moving to the at-home testing, do you see this as a potential market for STI testing? And then if that were to introduce, I guess what will be Hologic's solution there for staying competitive, and if that includes looking at at-home testing options?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. The first part of that in terms of barriers to STI, as you know, we did see a lot of, call it, intercity clinics and everything that either shut down or got the resources redeployed during COVID time from serving STIs and just serving their community folks really focusing on COVID. So as some of those come back, I think we feel good about hopefully, the ability to get back to more screening, and as you say there's probably been an increase, certainly, we've seen in many pockets of STIs during this time. So, hopefully, the ability to pick those up.

On the idea of home testing. There's a lot more complications to women testing themselves at home, in terms of administering the test and in terms of shipping it in a proper container everything else. So candidly, we were approached by lots of companies in COVID time who all were convinced that they were going to be the next great savior of home testing for COVID as well as home testing for STIs that don't -- we're not as sure that market's going to move nearly as quickly to home testing when you actually think about the pragmatic realities of it. And so, I think we continue to feel very good. We continue to broaden out our own portfolios, have partnerships to be able to try to capture them, but I would not expect that market to move nearly as quickly as some companies might be hoping.

Joseph Conway
Analyst at Needham & Company LLC

Okay. Great. Yeah, that's very helpful.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Probably, I'd also say, if it were, it's where our cash balance puts us in really good position.

Joseph Conway
Analyst at Needham & Company LLC

Okay. Great. And then, I did happen to see, I don't know if you guys already got a chance to look at it, but it seems the MCCN posted new guidelines for breast cancer screening and diagnosis, just like a quick look at it, it didn't seem like anything really changed more or less just solidifying diagnosis pathways based on your risk. But could you maybe talk about anything that was seen in that update? And then, maybe just a similar question on that. What's maybe been the reception of some of the mobile mammograms screening that Hologic has put out, how has that been received during the pandemic, and recently?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. I think as it relates to guidelines, we continue to push for the proper guidelines. I think sometimes USPSTF and some other folks have gone too far. But, in general, most of the folks I think are adhering to pretty sensible guidelines. And candidly, I think there's still a lot of pent-up demand, there are still a lot of women that put off their screenings during COVID time and are running behind, so I think we'll still catch up. In terms of the mobile, we made those available here, there. It's de minimis in terms of any real impact on the business.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Right. We've been doing mobile mammograms well before the pandemic really to reach underserved communities. It's really the intent there.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question from Puneet Souda with SVB Securities.

Puneet Souda
Analyst at SVB Securities

Yeah. Hi, Steve, Karleen. Thanks for taking the question. So first one, maybe for Karleen. How much of an offset are you getting today from repurposing of these prior boards and chips and how much of that do you expect will happen in FY '23 versus new chips?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah. So it's pretty de minimis. So if I look at Q3, we did better than the original forecasted $100 million of headwind by roughly $10 million, so it's in the millions of dollars. And again, I wouldn't think that it's going to be the most significant solution to the challenges of supply. It's going to be getting higher allocations.

Puneet Souda
Analyst at SVB Securities

Got it. Okay. And then, Steve, on the first fiscal quarter call, you said corrections do create opportunities for Hologic in the right time and -- but valuation hadn't settled back at that time in your view. So, obviously, macro backdrop hasn't improved but valuations have come down here, meaningfully. So wondering if you have updated thoughts and views on how you're viewing the market and valuations now given your sort of vantage point and the growing cash position and still strong cash flow?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. We like seeing some of the valuation start to truly settle in. The fascinating part always becomes -- people are always still looking at the past 52 months -- or past 52-week high and wanting premiums off of that even though it's long since history. So the more time that goes by, we believe, puts us in a better position and really puts the potential sellers in a more realistic position. We feel great right now being patient and feel like -- we don't see something that's going to snap a lot of these especially earlier stage or smaller companies back and we're looking both early stage and we're also looking at things that bring some legitimate EBITDA in this time but really like our position. But -- and we're in no urgent need given the strength of our base business to act, which I think also just puts us in a much better place while these companies come to grips with their true realities.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question from Casey Woodring with J.P. Morgan.

Casey Woodring
Analyst at J.P. Morgan

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess the first one, so on the Diagnostics growth rate here, wondering how much of that was pent-up demand from the last quarter or two. So last quarter, you guys made the comment that women's wellness visits have softened given COVID impacts. So curious to hear if there is a catch-up in visits this quarter and if there is some more pent-up demand here left in 4Q and maybe even the beginning of fiscal '23.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. It's probably a little bit. I think it's just -- it's so hard for us to say that these things just keep ebbing and flowing by geography, both within the U.S., you see regions that moved to different paces in COVID time and different, and certainly on a global basis, different countries. So it feels like a little bit of pent-up but I wouldn't say that's the -- that created a big bolus. I think it just did more allowed a lot of the visits to come through that weren't happening before, so I think it's a pop but it's not like it was necessarily restrained. So, and again, hard to exactly know. We don't have that information from our customers or anything else but I think it's where we just keep saying, let's keep watching these trends over time.

Puneet Souda
Analyst at SVB Securities

Got it, and then just on the international diagnostics piece. You called out 16.5% ex-COVID growth was driven by virology. You did mention women's healthcare, so I guess can you just sort of remind us how much of that diagnostics business you have is outside the U.S. and if there's material greenfield opportunity on the molecular side with women's health, especially given all the Panthers you've placed? Thank you.

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

Yeah. It's still -- our molecular business outside the U.S. has been under-developed and I think that's been one of the magical pieces of the -- being able to place so many Panthers during the pandemic that we're very excited about the opportunity really in the core women's health business, which has also been under-developed. So it's a combination of both the virals and the core women's health as we start to transition from some of those Panthers internationally that were used for COVID into our core business, and I think it's something we expect to be generating certainly double-digit growth internationally for quite some time in that molecular business.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take the next question from Max Masucci with Cowen and Company.

Max Masucci
Analyst at Cowen

Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. First one, I think you're nearly done integrating Biotheranostics lab operations into the San Diego headquarters, if not finished, the growth is tracking nicely there, so and once Biotheranostics is fully settled in to the San Diego headquarters, how motivated will you be to pursue additional M&A deals for, say, a breast-focused specialty lab that you can -- that you would be able to serve with Biotheranostics, the new lab operations in the commercial team that's in place?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

We're continuing to look at it all options. I think what we do feel good about and as you say, Max, we did a whole bunch of acquisitions in a relatively compressed period of time, and then really had to digest those and I think between Biotheranostics, which is not fully integrated, we're probably slightly behind exactly your rosy synopsis here. We're integrating it into the San Diego facility and moving the CLIA lab in and all of that but we still have a little bit of work to be done. The same with Diagenode and Mobidiag getting integrated nicely, Bolder, Acessa, those have all been being integrated to where, I would say, we're getting to the point where we can certainly handle more integrations but we're casting the net fairly broadly within our existing state of business, the existing three businesses.

Max Masucci
Analyst at Cowen

Got it. And then sort of just following up there. I mean if you look at all of the companies and the products that you have integrated over the past 18 to 24 months, which of the recently acquired products or services, whether it's Acessa or some of the expanded interventional breast offerings, which of them have benefited the most under Hologic's ownership or wonder if they started being marketed alongside some of your cornerstone marquee products?

Stephen P. MacMillan
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer at Hologic

I think they're all benefiting very nicely. If you think about what we've been able to do from a covered lives standpoint within assess early stages even for Bolder or surgical, sales force is dying to get their hands on it, it's been more a supply issue that we've been holding them back a little bit while we ramp up. Biotheranostics, that team when you talk to the commercial leader of that team, very excited by what the Hologic team and breadth and marketing capabilities and everything brought to that business as well. The Diagenode, Mobidiag teams, I think also in Europe, very excited, particularly having to just have gone through the whole IVDR process, which it was a hugely labor intensive business now to be get that behind us and really focus to the future.

So I think they're all looking at us and saying, you know what, the nice part is the proud to be a part of us. I was talking to a CEO of another company recently who actually been involved in one of the ones we bought, and he was still close to one of the members of the team at the company we bought, and he said, "You know what, that team loves being a part of Hologic" and that's exactly what we always want to strive for. So feel pretty good at each of them are really fitting that bill.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.

Ryan Zimmerman
Analyst at BTIG Research

Thanks for taking the questions. And I wanted to just ask one, Karleen, it's already been asked a lot about margins for next year and I appreciate the color there. I think you had said maybe 400, 150 basis point headwind on margins and that will come back over '23 in a normalized environment. But if I look at the fourth quarter number next quarter, our margins are kind of in at 26% and so you add back kind of that 400 basis point dynamic and it puts it closer and maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but closer to 30% and I just want to know if I'm thinking about it the right way versus and then again a normalized environment. 32-ish percent, 31.5%. Are we still maybe 150 basis points off of kind of that normalized margin as we enter '23 and then I have a followup?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah. So I think beyond as I talked about the 400 and 450 is the higher costs of roughly 200 and 250, which from our planning perspective, we don't have line of sight to that resolving but eventually that will resolve. I think the other piece with some higher marketing expenses, which is probably about another 200 basis point headwind to op margin that will also be over '23. So we have clear line of sight back to those normalized margin levels.

Ryan Zimmerman
Analyst at BTIG Research

Okay, that's helpful color and then if I think about I think Mobidiag lapse next quarter in terms of the time of acquisition becomes organic, that disclosure today for both Mobidiag and Bolder was about $8 million. If I go back to the revenue contribution for Mobidiag. I think it was something in the 40s. I just want to understand kind of how that's tracking relative to maybe its previous disclosures, maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah. So it's choppy, a little bit below that. There's two reasons, one that forehand or would have had COVID revenue in there that has come down. Our COVID revenue was on their legacy Amplidiag platform, not the Novodiag platform and as well as there has been some supply chain challenges. We worked through those and we're ramping up inventory to kind of go hard commercially at the beginning of 2023. So couple of choppiness here in the year, but is still really good about what that's going to do.

Operator

Thank you. I will take our next question from Andrew Cooper with Raymond James.

Andrew Cooper
Analyst at Raymond James

Hanks, sir, for taking me here and that's already been asked. So maybe I'll just give one quick one in that everybody gone on. So on Mobidiag maybe just an update on Novodiag potentially coming to the U.S. and sort of what the latest and greatest thinking on the pathway there and what we could be looking for that product?

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Yeah, I think, to Steve's earlier comments about the benefits of these acquisitions at Hologic and I think our R&D team has spent a lot of time in Finland when we dive teams have come to San Diego to really work through with that clinical roadmap is for approval in the U.S. and I think we were in a much better position to understanding of what is required for approval in the U.S. and that understanding based on our expertise has pushed out the timeline a little. So looking now more like early 2025. But we still feel really good about that acquisition, feel good about what's going to happen with the EU approval that we already have here in 2023.

Andrew Cooper
Analyst at Raymond James

Okay, great. I'll stop there given the time. Thanks.

Karleen Oberton
Chief Financial Officer at Hologic

Thank you.

Operator

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