Old Dominion Freight Line Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 26, 2023

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Old Dominion Freight Line First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Drew Anderson.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to the Q1 2023 Conference Call for Old Dominion Freight Line. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning today and through May 3, 20 23 by dialing 1-eight seventy seven-three forty four-seven thousand five hundred and twenty nine, access code 6,525,435. The replay of the webcast may also be accessed for 30 days at the company's website. This conference call may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements, among others, regarding Old Dominion's expected financial and operating performance.

Speaker 1

For this purpose, any statements made during this call are not statements of historical fact, may be deemed forward looking statements. Without limiting the foregoing, the words believes, anticipates, plans, expects and similar expressions are intended to identify You are hereby cautioned that these statements may be affected by the important factors, among others, Set forth in Old Dominion's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in this morning's news release and consequently, actual operations and statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. As a final note before we begin, We welcome your questions today, but we do ask in fairness to all that you limit yourself to one question at a time before returning to the queue. Thank you for your cooperation. At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to turn the conference over to the company's President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr.

Speaker 1

Greg Gantt. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and welcome to our Q1 conference call. With me on the call today is Marty Freeman, our COO and Adam Satterfield, our CFO. After some brief remarks, We'll be glad to take your questions. The OD team started this year with 1st quarter financial results that included revenue of $1,400,000,000 an operating ratio of 73.4 percent and earnings per diluted share of $2.58 These numbers were slightly below our Q1 results from 2022 and reflect the ongoing softness in the domestic economy and the challenging operating environment. We are also coming off a record year Our business levels would start to improve late in the Q1 and accelerate further in the second quarter.

Speaker 2

While our volumes stabilized during January February as expected, we have not seen the acceleration in volumes that was originally anticipated. Our shipments per day have remained consistent on a daily basis so far this year, But on a year over year basis, shipments in April are trending down double digits. Fortunately, our market share has remained relatively consistent and our yield continues to improve. We believe the stability with our market share during the Q1 reflects the value of our service and the success of our long term strategic plan. The guiding principles of this plan have been in place for many years and have helped us produce Strong track record for long term profitable growth throughout the economic cycle.

Speaker 2

This plan is centered on our ability to deliver Superior service at a fair price to our customers and we remain committed to providing on time service and claims free service as well. We will continue to focus on delivering a value proposition to our customers, while also maintaining a disciplined approach to managing the fundamental aspects of our business. This will include making the best decisions to help us through a challenging environment in the short term, while also positioning us for future opportunities to produce long term profitable growth. While we like to measure our success over the years, we believe it takes winning on a daily, weekly and monthly basis to add up to long term success. Our consistent focus and successful balance Of long term opportunities against short term trends has helped us achieve a 10 year compound average growth rate in revenue and earnings per diluted share of 11.4% and 25% respectively.

Speaker 2

I want to close my last earnings call as CEO by saying how incredibly proud I am of the entire OD family of employees, All 23,000 of us and the track record of success that we have produced together, I am encouraged by the prospects Our team has for future growth. Without any doubt, I stand firm in my belief that OD has the Strongest team in the industry, the best service in the industry and is better positioned than any LTO carrier to continue to win market share while also increasing shareholder value. Thank you for joining us this morning. And now, we'll turn things over to Marty For further discussion of the Q1.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Greg, and good morning. I want to first of all start by thanking Greg for his leadership and significant contributions to OD over his career, while also recognizing each OD employee for their critical role in our success. Together, we have produced remarkable improvement in our financial and operating results over the long term. And I can assure you that OD's team remains focused on continuing our record of strong profitable growth. With respect to our Q1, we delivered solid financial results, especially when considering the ongoing softness in the domestic economy and decrease in volumes.

Speaker 3

Although these factors contributed to the first decrease in quarterly revenue and earnings per diluted share since the Q2 of 2020, our market share has remained relatively consistent. As a result, we believe our decrease in volumes was largely due to Some shippers simply having fewer shipments than normal due to the economy, although there have been others that are beginning to emphasize price versus service and choosing lower priced carriers. The operating environment has become more challenging than we anticipated and the expected acceleration in volumes has obviously not occurred. Despite these factors, we have maintained a commitment to our long term strategic plan. We will continue to focus on providing shippers with superior service to support our ability to maintain our price discipline.

Speaker 3

Our consistent cost based approach to manage yield and account profitability has been critical to our ability to improve our financial position over time, which has helped us support and continued investments in technology and service center capacity. While capacity is not currently an industry issue due to the weakness in industry volumes, we believe this will Again, become a critical differentiator for us when the economy improves. We believe our long term consistent investment in service center capacity Has been and remains a strategic advantage that supports our long term market share goals. During this period of revenue We will also maintain a disciplined approach to managing our variable cost and discretionary spending to protect our profitability. This starts with a commitment to maximizing the operating efficiency of our fleet and network.

Speaker 3

Some of our productivity measurements in the Q1 We're negatively impacted by the general loss of operating density associated with the decrease in our shipments and weight per shipment. This was evidenced by 4.9% decrease in our line haul laden load average and a 1.0 decrease in our P and D shipments per hour. We improved our platform productivity, however, and generated a 5.8% increase in our platform shipments per hour. We also reduced our reliance on purchased transportation as compared to the Q1 of 2022, which allowed us to improve the overall This contributed to the improvement in our variable cost as a percent of revenue during the Q1. We will also continue to work on improving the efficiency of our operations as we make our way through the balance of this year, which provides an opportunity to generate additional cost savings.

Speaker 3

While productivity is always a focus, we cannot and we will not allow it to impact Our team continued to deliver superior service during the Q1 with an on time service of 99% and Cargo claims ratio of 0.1%. This service performance remains critical to support our yield management strategies. We have said many times before that to produce long term improvement in our operating ratio, we'll continue to require a balance between operating density and yield management, both of which generally require a favorable macroeconomic environment. As just mentioned, we lost operating density in the quarter in the current environment due to the decline in volumes and the expansion of our network. Our yield has continued to consistently improve, however, and revenue per hundredweight excluding fuel surcharges increased 8.6 during the Q1.

Speaker 3

We will continue to demonstrate value to our customers by balancing our superior service offering with a consistent cost based approach to our pricing. The resulting value proposition is unmatched in the LTL industry And we'll continue to support our ability to increase market share over the long term. As we look forward to remaining quarters of this year, we currently anticipate the Softer demand environment will continue. The 2nd quarter is generally the period when volumes begin to accelerate, but we have yet to see an inflection Nevertheless, I want to emphasize that we are well positioned to respond to any acceleration in volumes that might occur, if and when the economy improves. Until that time comes, we will continue to focus on managing our costs and delivering value to our customers through our value plan and we remain committed to execute on this plan regardless of the economic cycle.

Speaker 3

As a critical part of this plan, we will also continue to execute our capital expenditure program and most importantly, invest in the training, education And development of our OD family of employees. The economy will eventually recover and we will And we are confident that when it does, our team's execution will allow us to achieve further growth and profitability, while also increasing our shareholder value. Thanks for joining us today. Adam will now discuss our Q1 financial results in greater detail.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Marty, and good morning. Old Dominion's revenue decreased 3.7% in the first quarter of 2023 due to an 11.9% decrease in LTL tonnage that was partially offset by 9.2% Increase in LTO revenue per 100 Wave. The combination of this decrease in revenue and slight deterioration in our ratio contributed to the 0.8 percent decrease in earnings per diluted share to $2.58 for the quarter. On a sequential basis, revenue per day for the Q1 decreased 7.9% when compared to the Q4 of 2022, with LTL tons per day decreasing 4.3% and LTL shipments per day decreasing 3.4%. For comparison, the 10 year average sequential change for these metrics includes a decrease of 0.6% in revenue per day, a 0.5% decrease in tons per day and a 0.2% increase in shipments per day.

Speaker 4

The monthly sequential changes in the LTL tons per day during the Q1 were as follows: January decreased 1.0% As compared with December, February decreased 0.2% versus January and March increased 0.7% as compared to February. The 10 year average change for the respective months was an increase of 1.2% in January, an increase of 1.7% in February and an increase of 5.2% in March. Our shipments per day over these same periods were relatively consistent on a sequential basis and increased slightly each month as we progress through the Q1.

Speaker 2

While there are still a

Speaker 4

few workdays remaining in April, our month to date revenue per day has decreased by approximately 15% when compared to April of 2022. Our LTL tonnage per day has also decreased by approximately 15%, while revenue per hundredweight has increased approximately 1% when including fuel surcharges and increased approximately 7.5% excluding fuel surcharges. Our revenue and shipment counts on a daily basis have been relatively We had expected to see acceleration in business levels by this point in the year based on customer feedback and our historical planning process. While we would like to see our market share continue to increase again, we believe that it's more important to maintain our price discipline during this period of economic while positioning ourselves to emerge from the slow period with capacity and a better opportunity to produce strong profitable growth over the long term. We have operated in scenarios like this before and we will continue to execute our plan and adjust to this lower than expected volume environment until an inflection point happens and we can shift back into growth mode again.

Speaker 4

Our first quarter operating ratio increased to 70 Many of our fixed cost categories increased as a percent of revenue during the quarter due to the deleveraging effect associated with the decrease in revenue as well as the timing and significance of certain expenditures. In particular, Within our direct operating cost, our purchased transportation cost as a percent of revenue improved 140 basis points, while our productive labor costs improved 50 basis points. These changes more than offset the 50 basis point increase in operating supplies and expenses that was primarily due to an increase in our maintenance and repair costs. Old Dominion's cash flow from operations totaled 400 $15,400,000 for the Q1 and capital expenditures were $234,700,000 We currently anticipate our capital expenditures will be approximately $700,000,000 this year, which is a $100,000,000 decrease from our initial capital expenditure planned. We plan to continue with real estate expansion projects that are already in process and others that we believe will be critical to our long term operating plan.

Speaker 4

We also plan to continue to purchase new equipment, which we believe will help lower the average age of our fleet and help reduce our maintenance cost per mile. We utilized $141,700,000 of cash for our share repurchase program paid $44,100,000 in dividends during the Q1. Our effective tax rate was 25.8% 26.0 percent for the Q1 of 2023 and 2022, respectively. We currently expect our annual effective tax rate to be 25.6% for the Q2 of 2023. This concludes our prepared remarks this morning.

Speaker 4

Operator, we'll be happy to open the floor for questions at this time.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley, please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great. Good morning, gentlemen. Maybe it's a little 2 parter here. One is the Uptake in April that didn't materialize in your conversations with your customers. Do you get a sense that this is just a pause while they figure out what's going on with the banking crisis and other things before they resume and their inventory is in a better situation?

Speaker 5

Or do you think the Rebound is going to completely pushed out maybe to 24. And also maybe as a follow-up, can you help us think about kind of fuel surcharge and how we think about that math through the rest

Speaker 4

of the year? Thank you. Yes, certainly it's It's been difficult to read the tea leaves this year, and we felt like we've had a lot of good conversations with customers and continue to have them, but certainly, it seemed like the whole banking issue was a bit of cold water, on the economy overall. I think that it just continues to be a challenging overall and people question in some cases the direction of the economy and continue to be somewhat conservative as a result. But I think our business, we obviously had been talking about probably since Q3 of last year and expectation that we would start seeing an uptick and it didn't happen.

Speaker 4

Things It's stabilized. We continue to be consistent. We continue to have good conversations though. And I would say within our Direct business, having conversations with customers, we're seeing an increase in some of these accounts. When I look through our top 50 accounts business, it's not with a 3PL.

Speaker 4

We're seeing a good increase. We actually saw an increase in revenue with those accounts during the Q1. Some of Our business with 3PLs is suffering a little more. Like we said in our prepared comments, we're seeing some shippers We're prioritizing price over service right now, but you've got a lot of others, and I think that's why we're seeing the increase in our direct business that Continue to think strategically about their supply chain, understand the value that we're delivering and know that This environment will turn again and we helped many of these customers through challenging times and the pandemic and then the supply chain crisis that followed. So I think it's a mixed bag across the board, but we continue to stay engaged.

Speaker 4

We're continuing to have favorable conversations. And it's just a matter of With when the economy eventually recovers and we're certainly prepared for when that happens. It's just day in and day out. Our shipments per day have just been pretty consistent, pretty much all through the Q1 and that's continuing into April.

Speaker 5

And the fuel surcharges, any color that would be great.

Speaker 4

Yes. Certainly, the fuel surcharge, this is the quarter we've talked about. It actually happened in March. In March, The average price per gallon was down about 18%. Right now, with fuel being $4.10 somewhere In that range, fuel prices are down about 25%.

Speaker 4

So certainly, we'll See a bigger decrease on a year over year basis of fuel surcharges. That's in the April number that we put out Already fuel in April is down about 20%, and so that's driving some of that 15% decrease that we're seeing in our April revenues on a year over year basis. But yes, I think the impact is evident in our yield metrics, we're continuing to see good yield increases. We're as we're going through Bids and whatnot, we're continuing to talk about our cost plus increases that are necessary. But when you look at April And kind of where things are, the revenue per Huntway continues to be solid, and we would expect to see sequential Increase in the Q2 over the Q1, that number should naturally start to trend back closer to what our longer term averages have been From just a core yield increase standpoint, but the revenue per 108 with the fuel is reflecting that change now in fuel prices and the fuel surcharge.

Speaker 4

So that is starting to flatten out, if you will, just like the numbers that we

Operator

The next question comes from Jack Atkins with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thank you for taking my question this morning. So I guess I'd love to, Adam, get your thoughts on operating ratio progression sequentially. Obviously, This is not a normal second quarter. Lisa, it's not starting off as a normal second quarter in terms of how April is trending.

Speaker 6

Any way to kind of help us think about the Puts and takes in terms of the OR progression Q1 to Q2 relative to normal seasonality?

Speaker 4

Yes. This is certainly it's definitely not a usual type of quarter. As you said, I mean, with Tonnage being down about 15%. It's been since 2009 since we've seen that type of change or Maybe back to the Q2 of 'twenty when the pandemic happened and the world shut down, But it's something that we've been consistently adjusting to. And frankly, we knew the 2nd quarter comparisons were going to be More challenging this year when we look through the balance of how the quarters would fall.

Speaker 4

But the buildup in March That we anticipated obviously didn't happen. That's where you start really getting a lot of that growth. Really, it happens throughout the Q1, but March is typically a pretty good increase when you look at things on a shipments per day standpoint, it should be up 5% or so. So right now, like I mentioned before, we're seeing shipments per day that's Just pretty steady on a day in and day out basis coming in at somewhere around 40 7,000 shipments per day and granted the April will have the impact. We don't do half day conventions, but Pretty much have about a half a day loss with the Good Friday and the Easter holidays.

Speaker 4

But If we don't come off of that number and I'll tell you, it's not like we're picking up the same 47,000 shipments day in and day out. We're getting increases with some While others we're seeing decreases with, it's not as easy as maybe as what It sounds as it's consistent day in and day out. But if we don't see any further growth from there, we should see it In May, just the natural effect of just like the impact of the holidays recovering from that, a little bit of growth and if we can move forward from there, but overall for the quarter, if we're still in this environment where there's no sequential increase, then We're looking at revenues that might be flattish in the second quarter with the first as compared to we're normally up about 10% on a per day basis. So if that's the scenario that we're in, then I think that we're looking at An operating ratio that may be more consistent with the Q1 and could see some slight deterioration from there. I think our challenge will continue to be managing our direct variable cost, that's our productive labor, our operating supplies and expenses and so forth.

Speaker 4

If we're in the same type of shipments per day environment, managing those costs flat, maybe with some slight improvement As a percent of revenue, those were about 54% of revenue in the Q1. And then from an overhead standpoint, those calls were about 19 point 5 In the Q1, we'll continue to have an increase in the aggregate amount of depreciation expenses and some other dollars of overhead that might increase, so those costs could increase further As a percent of revenue from that 19.5%. But for us, it's certainly challenging, but I can tell you our teams, We're looking at cost. We're looking at productivity. We're looking at the size of the fleet and making adjustments on a day by day basis of trying to get in and save cost where we can.

Speaker 4

But like we mentioned before, doing all the right things that position us to come out of this downturn even stronger. And that's when the inflection When it happens, when we really outperform, for the longest time when we get into these slower macro periods, our market share is generally flatter as we maintain our Price discipline, but then when we come out, that's when we really see the outperformance in our volumes versus The industry, so we're going to continue to with the same strategic plan that's got us to where we are today and I think that we'll emerge from this thing even stronger.

Speaker 6

Okay. Adam, thanks for that color. And Greg, congrats again on your retirement.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jack.

Operator

The next question comes from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, thanks. Good morning. I just one thing I just want to clarify and then I have my actual question. So Adam, your comment about OR maybe flattish 1Q to 2Q, that's assuming that there's none of the seasonal May June uptick. Is that am I understanding that right?

Speaker 4

Well, assuming a little bit, just the natural uptick that would happen in the sense of the RMA volumes should be somewhere, I mean, where we are today, if they stay at this 47,000 range, it would be a slight uptick over April just because of April being impacted by that half Today that I mentioned for the Good Friday and Easter holidays, but you're correct. Just assuming that we stay in this sort of malaise where We don't see any incremental uptick and frankly no decline either, but just staying in this flattish on a sequential basis. We certainly hope that there will be an uptick in volumes. We've seen some good trends, a good couple of days this week. But I think that we certainly need to be mindful of kind of where we are and the fact that we don't see that positive inflection From an economic standpoint happening.

Speaker 4

And so I think we do need to talk about kind of where we are today. Obviously, we give our mid quarter update. So if happens and we start seeing some growth. We're certainly ready and can handle it. And that's when we can start maybe talking about seeing some incremental improvement, if you will, relative to the first Quarter, but right now, it's just things on a day in, day out basis are have just been very steady as she goes from a revenue per day and Yes, by shipments per day standpoint.

Speaker 7

And then when you talk about volume down the most since 2009, I guess I just want to understand like The pricing is holding up for you really, really well. At what point does that get tougher? Are you seeing any Signs of competitive pressure just given the market continuing to get worse right now from a volume standpoint?

Speaker 4

Yes, I mean, it's certainly one, I think the comparison is a little bit tougher And that should get better as we progress through this year. Even if our numbers were to stay flatter, the numbers Should start to show a little bit of improvement, but it's still a really soft environment out there. And I think that We've demonstrated a lot of value and that's what we continue to talk about with our customers and our costs Continue to go up and we need increases. We've invested a lot in our network over the years, over the last 10 years, about $4,500,000,000 of Capital expenditures to grow our service center network to be and have capacity where our customers need us and to have the right fleet And the right team to be able to continue to deliver value to our customers. So we've invested a lot and we intend to continue to invest.

Speaker 4

So I think that doesn't change the conversations that we're having with shippers. But in some cases, Due to the economy and due to internal pressures, there are some shippers that have got to look for cheaper priced carriers. And Yes, we're a premium carrier, premium service and our price is generally a little bit higher than others. And Oftentimes, we'll hear feedback though from shippers that are making that short term decision that they're doing it to meet internal thresholds and intend To give the volume back to us. Like I mentioned, we're seeing a little bit more transactional volume loss within our 3PL book of business right now.

Speaker 4

That's about a third of our overall revenue in the Q1. 3PLs were down a little worse The company average revenue change. So that's something that we continue to be mindful of and that too often flips and kind of ebbs and flows with the economy. But I think for us, it's just got to have a plan and we have one and stay disciplined to it and just Keep our focus on delivering service. That comes at a cost.

Speaker 4

There becomes a fixed element of running our line haul network and our P and D System to be able to continue to deliver service and usually this is when service breakdown occurs in the industry. When you become very focused on mitigating cost, and I think we're in a much stronger position than every other carrier. But when you start focusing on trying to mitigate costs in this type of environment, when the other carriers have seen worse volume loss than us on average, That's when trailers start getting held longer to try to fill them up and on time service starts declining, Claims start increasing, other bad things happen. That really, I think, or at least what we've seen in the past, we see a widening of the gap from a service performance to us versus the industry. So we expect that will play out again.

Speaker 4

And when the economy starts recovering, It's obviously tough to manage through it on a day by day basis, but I think we get right back to our market share gains. I don't think anything has changed in the sense of what we think our long term market share potential can be, what our long term Operating ratio goals are none of that really changes. It just kind of moves when the start point begins when we get back into market share growth mode again.

Speaker 7

Thank you for the time. I appreciate it.

Operator

This is the operator. Just a reminder to kindly limit yourself to one question. The next question comes from Jon Chappell with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Good morning. Marty, you mentioned in your prepared remarks and Adam you've kind of addressed it in a couple of your answers as well, but customers choosing price over service, Have you seen any kind of significant cracks in the pricing dynamic given just the complete weakness in the volume side? And how would you compare kind of the pricing environment today versus other periods of recessionary volume backdrop?

Speaker 3

Yes. I've been through this a few times in my 40 years in transportation and I think the worst I've ever seen was 2,009 and we're nowhere near that. But There is some challenging pricing out there as there always is during low freight levels. Most of it we see is transactional mom and pop type shippers and Inbound customer, so, yes, it can be challenging out there, but It's not anything we hadn't seen before and it's not anything we can't work through and manage through.

Speaker 8

Thank you, Marty.

Operator

The next question comes from Tom Wadewitz with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Yes. Good

Speaker 10

morning. And I think I said this on the last call maybe, but If I didn't, congratulations, Greg, on the retirement and the great run you had. I actually want to ask, along those lines, I guess, You've seen you're retiring someone on the teams move to a competitor. There's some degree of change going That will take place with the OD team. How do you think that may affect what you're doing At OD, what might be some of the risks around that?

Speaker 10

Are there risks around that? Are there potential things that you say, well, this My approach obviously tremendously successful, but the next person might tweak things a bit. So I know that's kind of anticipatory, but any just thoughts on So the management things that are have taken place or will take place as you retire? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure, Tom. I don't mind addressing that at all. Fortunately, Tom, we've got a tremendously strong team here at OD. The folks replacing me have nearly as many years in some cases in the industry as I do. They're all 20 plus year veterans.

Speaker 2

They've been through everything since we started executing this plan many years ago. They've been through the thick and thin, the good times, the bad They know who we are. They know what's made us successful. They understand our plan going forward and I think we're in a great Position to continue to execute on that plan. So Tom, there's always risk anytime you lose good people.

Speaker 2

Certainly, there's risk, but I feel extremely good about where we are. We'll make the replacement and continue to move forward. Again, thankfully, we had a I plan to execute on my exit, if you will, and promoted the folks that Certainly are capable of continuing to drive our results forward. So again, I feel good about it. I'm not concerned about that part at all.

Speaker 2

These guys know what to do and I feel extremely good about it. We got a great team. You can see that in the results. It's not me. It's not just the folks here, but I think everybody truly What we're trying to do and how we're supposed to execute and handle customers' business on a daily basis.

Speaker 2

And That's not going to change just because I'm out the door or any other one person left. Those fundamental things that we know how to do much Better than our competitors. That's not going to change anytime soon. So I think the basics Blocking and tackling those kind of things, without any doubt, we're far superior to all of our competitors. Again, that's not going to change.

Speaker 2

So I think we're in a good spot. And hey, I look forward to a whole lot of success down the road for OD.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. Thank you, Greg.

Speaker 4

Sure.

Operator

The next question comes from Allison Poloniak with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hi, good morning. Just want to go back To the comment on the top of the accounts, you did say there were actually some that were improving here. I guess any color that we can maybe read Vertical or such that that's driving some of that improvement. And I guess along with that, that stabilization when you kind of think of those larger customers, Do you at least I know we don't have a view on the inflection, but at least that the stabilization may hold? Just any color there.

Speaker 11

Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. It was pretty consistent performance between our retail and industrial customer base during the quarter. The revenue levels were generally about the same for both. But like I mentioned earlier, it's really a lot of the business that we're seeing. There's probably a little bit worse decline with business that's managed by 3PLs.

Speaker 4

And That's fairly typical in a softer environment, if you will. And so not wholly or Unexpected completely, but yes, we've seen just a consistency day in and day out with business levels In terms of the number of shipments per day that we've seen, it's been trending around 47,000 Bill's a day and we don't necessarily see that inflection point, If you will, happening typically you would start seeing an increase. You'd see an increase in May of about 2.5% 3% and then a further increase from May to June of 2%. And certainly, we'd like to think That might happen, but if you go back to when things really started decreasing, it was last year in April. March of last year was the last month where we had a nice sequential increase.

Speaker 4

Our business in February of last year was up About 5%. It was up another 3% in March, but then we started dropping off and basically have been flat to down for every month thereafter. And our shipments have been pretty consistent. They've increased very, very slightly, less than 1% each month. Pretty much consistent as we made our way through the each month of Q1, pretty much have been the same in April.

Speaker 4

Again, other than those 2 days that we consider full days impacted by the holiday, but that's in our normal number. Typically, April would be up about 0.5% over March. And right now, we're down about 2.5% shipments per day. That's some of that where we've just seen that consistent trend day in and day out. So do we start seeing some increase?

Speaker 4

Like I mentioned before, May just naturally should Joe, a little bit of growth if we stay at this 47,000 bill level. And did we start growing from there? Did we see a I'd like to think that we would. And again, we've had a lot of good conversations. We've had some good hits I'm here lately with customers and but some of those same conversations we were having 3 months ago where We were positive as well.

Speaker 4

So I think that right now, we want to be conservative, if you will, And we're continuing to try to manage our costs down to this lower level of shipments. And I think that will continue to happen as we progress through We focus on productivity. We're a little heavy with our fleet now as well, and we're working through some of those challenges. And But just trying to get everything balanced as best as we can, while we stay in this sort of stable period, if you will. But it's just Not really seeing any kind of growth, but I'd say typically April volumes from a shipments per day standpoint Typically, are fairly consistent with what our year to date average is, and we've seen that over time other in 2020.

Speaker 4

And so that's something that we just sort of keep in mind from a planning standpoint. And we always have a plan for we have a baseline plan. We've talked about this before that we enter every year with. And then we have A bull scenario and a bear scenario, 'twenty one was more at that bull case scenario, and this year It's more in the bear. So we start with a plan if things materialize like this and that's about at the level where we are and we're executing on that plan.

Speaker 11

Great. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Amit Mehrotra with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thanks, operator. Hi, everyone. Quick question, when was the last time shipments in 2Q were worse than 1Q? I don't No, I don't think there's ever been a time that that's been the case, but if you can just help me with that. And then when does The drawdown on weight, abate, we're at 15.50 now.

Speaker 9

Are we at the point where we stabilize at these levels? So those two points. And then and Adam, historically, you've lost lanes in past downturns High quality regional players are maybe lower cost. I don't think that's happened maybe up until now. I don't know if that's happening now that maybe explains some of the weakness in April.

Speaker 9

But if you can talk about kind of what the customers are doing from a trade down effect to some of the regional maybe equally or as high quality players?

Speaker 4

Yes. It's from a Q2 to Q1 standpoint, other than the Q2 of 'twenty, when the world shut down, We've not really seen a decrease in shipments and that too kind of played into our general thinking. Even years like 2,009, 2016, 2019, weaker years, we still had some marginal improvement in shipments in the 2nd quarter versus the first. And so right now, That's kind of trending flattish. We'll see how things shake out for the remainder of the period.

Speaker 4

And Like I said, maybe we'll get some growth and certainly it will be out there as we put our mid quarter update. We'll put the final April update in our 10 Q. And if we see some continued acceleration this week, that will be in the number. We just don't see a big inflection point happening like we did in, say, 2017 That spurred that growth of 2017 through 2018 and what we saw in the back part of 2020 that continue to Accelerate through 2021 like it happened. And so we're still waiting for that point, but we don't see it Kind of on the near term.

Speaker 4

And so we just managed to kind of where we are. But yes, that's kind of the challenge And what we're seeing is partly why I mentioned earlier that our revenues in the second quarter are typically up 9%, 10%, and that's why we always get so much margin improvement in the second quarter as well. And so that becomes the challenge as we manage through this particular period. But With respect to your other question, on the customer base, I don't know that we're seeing significant loss Other than that's some of what's going on underneath, I think, with some of the 3PL business that They can leverage their carrier relationships and move some freight and some of this is transactional as well, but they can take advantage And see who has capacity and who's got a cheaper price and move some business away, but that's some of the feedback where we've heard customers coming to us and saying, look, I need to do this to meet my own Call center objectives, there's an internal mandate to save ex dollars that they've got to try to meet in some way. But generally speaking, that freight comes back to us.

Speaker 4

If we ever lose freight, it's on price, But we generally always gain it back for service quality and capacity down the road. So we're confident that, that trend will continue to play out again and that we'll see any of this freight loss eventually come back to us. It's just a matter of it seems like that's being Push further down the road than the inflection point that we thought would happen beginning with this spring.

Speaker 9

What about weight?

Speaker 4

Weight, altogether, weight per shipment. I guess you embedded 3 questions But my memory was short. Yes, the wait for shipment that's all right. Our wait for shipment, It's down a little bit further. I think we're getting to the stabilization point.

Speaker 4

Right now in April, it's about £15.25 Yes. Historically, we would get down in lower periods to about £15.50 or so. But if you recall, we made some Strategic decisions in 2021 and exited from some of the spot heavier type shipments, these 8,000, 10000 pound type loads, And that had an effect of really lowering our overall weight per shipment. So despite the weakness, we're not going back and trying to bring in freight We didn't think fit our network for the long term. So just going along with the economy, we've seen a little further deceleration And that weight per shipment being down to £15.25.

Speaker 4

So that's a little bit worse. April is always usually down 0.5% or 1% Off of March, some of that is March builds up at the end of the quarter, but we're down a little bit more. But I feel like that's stabilizing that Probably our low watermark in a softer economy will be £15.25, £15.30 maybe. But yes, We think that's getting to a stabilization point or so it seems.

Speaker 12

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Wetherbee with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Adam, just kind of curious how

Speaker 8

you think about headcount going forward here. Obviously, a lack of seasonality might influence this, but you've been bringing it down sequentially the last few quarters. Just want to get a sense maybe how much more room you have in terms of rightsizing that labor force? And maybe is there a line where you feel like you

Speaker 4

The average was down about 3.5% in the Q1 versus the Q4. But our Peak, if you will, for full time headcount was in May of last year and through normal attrition and just some places Make another decision, if you will, just balancing our number of employees with the freight volumes that exist. We've had to work through those on a case by case basis throughout our 255 locations. But Yes, I expect that that will continue to drift a little bit lower as attrition continues to happen from where we are today through the end of June. And We're getting to a point, I think, that if you kind of compare where we are, if we continue to drift, maybe 1% or 2% lower as we progress through The Q2 to where the year over year change by the end of June may be in that 9% to 10% type of range.

Speaker 4

And then that's coming back into balance. We've always talked about the change in headcount typically reconciles with The overall change in shipment count as well. And so if we're looking at that, I think by the end of June, that change And shipments on a month over month basis, those two numbers may start coming back into parity with one another. That is the change and full time employees and the change in our shipments on a year over year basis.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Bascome Majors with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Thanks for taking my question. You've been pretty open about some of the share and pricing challenges with With 3PLs and losing business that way or is this more targeted dynamic pricing and just if that Cyclical dynamic, which I'm sure has been around before, if that is evolving any differently this cycle than last cycle, we'd love to hear more about it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think that's it's hard for us to say. We don't always know the reasons behind. The feedback we get is that someone is cheaper. We don't know necessarily that variance or that reason why.

Speaker 4

I think that we're obviously one of the first carriers to report and just continue to watch what the others are doing, what their numbers Looking like and hear what the others have to say, I think. Others have said that they've got Price discipline, but we've seen 1 carrier's yields flatten out. So I think all we can do is just continue to sort of watch and see what others are doing, but that doesn't impact what we do. We've got a plan. We stay committed to it and we know what value we And we just got to stay disciplined and that's what we'll do.

Speaker 4

It's never good to kind of live through it in the moment and we've done this time and time again. But like I said, it's not totally unexpected to see some of that business, just given the softness in the economic environment and cost challenges That people are facing in general to be looking at ways they might be able to save on price in the current term. But what we always say is price doesn't equal cost. We deliver a value to our customers. And when you consider total cost Transportation, when you deliver 99% on time and have a claims ratio of 0.1%, you save money by And that's what our position continues to be.

Speaker 4

It's just our sales team, they've got to stay engaged with our customers and Demonstrate value. We've got to continue to maintain our service metrics and we will. That is certainly a focus for us And we'll manage through this. But like we said before, I think it's played out when you look at our numbers and the long term improvement that we've made with With respect to our margins and the cash from operations that we generate and are able to reinvest back in our business on behalf of our customers, We've got to maintain our disciplined approach. And I think that it's proven itself out in the long run There's a key difference why our numbers look a lot different from some of the others.

Speaker 13

But when you look back to a 2019 or a 20 16, does the rising competitiveness on price and share of the 3PL channel feel different this time? Just curious If this all rhymes or something feels like it's changed here? Thank you.

Speaker 2

No, I wouldn't say it's Maybe a little bit different, Bascome, but not wholly and completely. And just to add a little color to what Adam said, generally Speaking with our 3PLs, we're not losing contractual business. Some of those contractual accounts may be Down just because the general economy is slower. They may possibly be down, but that's not where we're losing. And The transactional stuff as Adam talked about before, that's where we're seeing a deterioration in our revenue with those specific 3PLs.

Speaker 2

They all have a large piece of business that's transactional that's the customers may ship once, twice, whatever a week, Smaller type accounts and that's where we're seeing the losses from our standpoint. So it's just business that they can price on the fly And we're never going to be the low cost guy on the fly, if you will. So anyway, that's More of what we've seen, it's not losing business by any stretch.

Speaker 13

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Greg, good luck in retirement and maybe Wes might be giving you a call soon. Marty, I just want to clarify, I just want to make sure I heard you right. Did you say this is not abnormal in terms of the part of the cycle on pricing? And then my question for Adam or Greg, I guess, is just the ability to be fluid on costs, right? So you've always talked about more so than peers given The fixed cost structure of the less than truckload market and OD's focus on keeping people, how do you shift how do you think about shifting costs or what moves do you make now With volumes down 15%, I know you always want to be prepared and have the 25% capacity available, but what do you think about on the costs and and impact OR?

Speaker 12

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. This is not abnormal in this type of environment, economic environment. You have some of our competitors, They think offering a more competitive or lower price will keep the customer there. Many times it does not, Because the customer will always come back to having their cargo delivered on time and claim free. We've learned that over the years.

Speaker 3

So it's not abnormal. We choose to tighten our belt and manage our labor. And When the slow times pass, we're in a great position to keep our OR going downward. So But it's not abnormal to see low prices in any environment with any company. So We've seen it before, and it will pass like it always does.

Speaker 3

And Adam, I'll let you handle that.

Speaker 4

Yes. I would only say on the call standpoint, I mean, obviously, we've switched to where Our variable costs are the majority of our cost base now, probably 70% or more Our costs now are variable in nature. And obviously, we've got a big fixed cost base and we're seeing the loss leverage The revenue decline there driving some of that, but some of the increase in those Overhead cost in the Q1 also come from the fact that we're on a little bit of a different schedule with respect to Our equipment plan, we were taking delivery in the 4th quarter and of equipment taking delivery in the Quarter, which is unusual and that was part of why we had anticipated a sequential increase in the depreciation cost as a percent of revenue. But given all the challenges from a fleet standpoint, that's driving some of our costs. It's also driving some of The maintenance and repair costs, like I mentioned, we're seeing an increase in cost per mile.

Speaker 4

Some of that is just due to general inflation related to parts and repairs, but some of it too just relates to the fact that we're bringing in Equipment, we've on a different schedule, we've held equipment through 2021 and 2022 and our average fleet age has increased as a result. We're Probably our average fleet age is about 5.5 years now. We like it to be around 4 years. And so we'll work on balancing that as we take out Some of the older equipment from the fleet and adjusting our fleet, if you will, to these lower shipment levels, That will help from a cost and an efficiency standpoint, but 80% of our costs are salaries, wages and benefits and op supplies and expenses. And Line haul is a big element underneath that.

Speaker 4

And so that's why we've got to stay disciplined. We mentioned in our prepared comments about our line haul load factor being down like it is. I can tell you that's a focus. That's a lot of dollars, not only from a labor standpoint, but that's what creates the miles that we run. And so that's We can drive some improvement there.

Speaker 4

That will help us from both labor and fuel in particular, while we're also making some adjustments on the fleet that will help with both depreciation and maintenance costs. But like I think I said earlier, There's an element that becomes fixed. About every variable cost is fixed in the short run. And if we want to continue to deliver service and we are, there becomes a fixed element within that Lighthall component. And so we've got to be able to do both, frankly.

Speaker 4

We're not going to lose our focus on giving service, but we've got some room for improvement. And that's what our team talks about every week and frankly every day. I'm out in the field is where we can drive some efficiency. That's going to be the biggest self It always has been. And that's the work that we've got cut out for us as we go through the last three quarters of this year.

Speaker 4

I think I've said before that when we look at our direct operating costs, these variable costs, productive labor and not supplies and expenses and so forth, Even in slower periods in the past, even in 2,009, we were able to generate some improvement in those costs as a percent of revenue on a year over year basis. And so the operating loss in 2009 being with our fixed overhead cost. And so that's the challenge that continues to be in front of us. And in the Q2, I mentioned, if we can keep those costs at 54%, They were about 53% in the Q2 last year. So we're going to have a little bit of headwind there, but we've got

Speaker 12

Great. Marty, Greg, Adam. Thank you for taking the time. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Gabe.

Operator

The last question today will come from Bruce Chan with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks operator and good morning everyone. I just want to come at the volume question from a little bit of a different angle. You've had some competitors that are going through some labor negotiations this year. 1 is going through a pretty significant change of ops. Do you see any volume coming into the network because of or maybe in anticipation of those events?

Speaker 8

And then Adam, maybe just a quick housekeeping question. You gave us some good color on the fleet age. How long do you think it's going to be before you're back at that sort of target 4 years?

Speaker 4

I would say that we should make a lot of progress this year. We've got a fair amount of equipment Right now that we've got identified that we want to be able to move out of the system, but That takes a fair amount of time to happen. It's not just an overnight thing where you're selling a used car and you post it on the website. So it's going to take us a little bit of time to kind of work through that, but we've got a plan. We've met several times recently talking about kind of the needs there, and we will continue to work through it.

Speaker 4

So I think that we'll make We reduced our CapEx for equipment, but we're still going to be bringing on a fair number of new units. And more of the progress will be hanging on or getting rid of some of these older units that we've been hanging on to. And I'll say we're not out of the woods yet when it comes to parts availability and so forth. We're still finding that there are Continuing to be supply chain issues out there and when we've got equipment that has been down for maintenance, It's equipment has stayed down for longer periods of time. So we're continuing to kind of manage through those challenges We're also trying to manage cost, but I think we'll end up by the end of this year making pretty steady progress on working that number much lower than where it was at the end of last year, kind of working both ends of the spectrum, if you will.

Speaker 8

Great, thanks. And then just on the volume side, any discernible share wins from many of those union competitors?

Speaker 2

It's kind of hard to say, Bruce. We get reports from our national account folks On a regular basis, we have wins on business from those fronts as well as others. So I don't know that You can really point to contract negotiations or whatever the case as any reason that we're getting business. We haven't really seen that.

Speaker 12

Got it. Fair enough. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Greg C. Gantt for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thanks everybody for your participation today. We appreciate your questions. Feel free to give us a call if you have anything further. I hope you have a great day. Thank you.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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