NYSE:CNX CNX Resources Q1 2023 Earnings Report $33.70 -0.09 (-0.27%) As of 06/30/2025 03:58 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast CNX Resources EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.56Consensus EPS $0.44Beat/MissBeat by +$0.12One Year Ago EPSN/ACNX Resources Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$395.00 millionExpected Revenue$440.78 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$45.78 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACNX Resources Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date4/27/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, April 27, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCNX Resources' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, July 24, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q2 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by CNX Resources Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 27, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways During Q1, CNX repurchased 3% of its shares, bringing total retirement to 28% since 2020, underscoring management’s view that stock trades below intrinsic value. Despite a ~74% collapse in NYMEX gas prices from September 2022 to March 2023, CNX remains uniquely free cash flow positive in Appalachia and plans significant capital returns throughout 2023. Following the steep price decline, CNX cut its 2023 EBITDAX guidance to $950–1,050 million and free cash flow to ~$250 million, though production and capital plan remain unchanged. The company retains operational optionality to slow select activity in 2023, build DUC inventory or maintain steady production, with decisions driven by forward strip movements and per-share returns. CNX’s New Technologies Group is partnering on a $1 billion clean ammonia facility and leading the Appalachian Hydrogen Hub effort, with the division set to be free cash flow positive in 2023. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCNX Resources Q1 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the CNX Resources First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler Lewis, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:27Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, and good morning to everybody. Welcome to CNX's Q1 conference call. We have in the room today Nick Deulius, our President and CEO Alan Sheppard, our Chief Financial Officer Navneet Beal, our Chief Operating Officer and Ravi Srivastava, President of our New Technologies Drew? Today, we will be discussing our Q1 results. This morning, we posted an updated slide presentation to our website. Speaker 100:00:57Also, detailed first quarter earnings release data, such as quarterly E and P data, financial statements and non GAAP reconciliations are posted to our website in a document titled 1Q 2023 Earnings Results and Supplemental Information of CNX Resources. As a reminder, any forward looking statements we make or comments about future expectations are subject to business risks, we have laid out for you in our press release today as well as in our previous Securities and Exchange Commission filings. We will begin our call today with prepared remarks by Nick, followed by Alan, and then we will open the call up for Q and A, where Nav and Ravi will participate as well. With that, let me turn the call over to you, Nick. Speaker 200:01:41Thanks, Tyler. Good morning, everybody. First, let me give you a warning at the start. This is take your kids to work day for us. We've got over 80 Kids throughout the hallways in the office at the headquarters today and we lost contain about 45 minutes ago. Speaker 200:01:55So if you hear any yelling or screaming, that's what that's all about. I apologize in advance. It is one of my favorite days actually of the year. Q1 of 2023, it marked 13 consecutive quarters of And to acquire a significant amount of our shares at prices that we believe represent a substantial discount to their intrinsic value. During the quarter, we repurchased an additional 3% of our outstanding shares and that's resulting in the cumulative retirement of approximately 28% of the outstanding shares of the company since 2020. Speaker 200:02:35And as we discussed on our previous call, this magnitude and the pace of the buybacks It's not only been bested by a small handful, a very small handful actually of other companies across the S and P 1500 over the same period of And you get a sense of the magnitude of our share repurchase program when you look at Slide 3 in the deck, which shows the top 30 largest gas is comprised of share buybacks and any dividends paid, divided over each producer's market cap. You can see that CNX is at the top of that list. Our 2022 annual gas production ranks somewhere in the middle of this group. And returning capital to our shareholders, of course, that's a crucial component of our capital allocation strategy, and we're going to continue to evaluate the most By keeping a strong balance sheet, managing our debt levels and maintaining adequate liquidity to weather economic headwinds, and Alan will have more on this shortly. Meanwhile, our industry has been smacked with a collapsed NYMEX. Speaker 200:04:12Beginning late Q4 of last year and throughout the Q1 of this year, the industry experienced an extraordinary decline in natural gas prices Over a very short period of time and specifically we saw NYMEX natural gas prices decline by approximately 74% when comparing March 2023 to September 2022 prices. In this rapid deterioration of pricing over the past two quarters, When you couple it with the much discussed inflationary pressures on every imaginable input to the sector, those duo that duo will pose Near term challenges throughout the industry, CNX might be the only player in basin that will be free cash flow positive for the remainder of 2023 at the current strip and will likely be the only one returning significant capital to owners for the remainder of 2023 and many in the We are increasing debt leverage and outspending cash flow as we speak. We believe the industry is going to struggle to continue to execute the Shale 3.0 business model Returning capital to shareholders in this phase of the commodity cycle, where you've got prices that are low and costs that are remaining high. But on the other hand, CNX remains well positioned to navigate this type of environment as the low cost producer in Appalachia with one of the most robust hedge books in the industry. Speaker 200:05:28Given our targeted activity set and integrated midstream and water infrastructure ownership, we've got more flexibility than most producers to adapt Our activity set and that flexibility in volatile times like these becomes incredibly impactful When you combine it with how Nav and his operations team are focused on driving efficient execution, optimization throughout the natural gas manufacturing process, Assuming we don't make any adjustments to our activity set related to the broader macro environment, we expect to be around the 1.6 Bcfe per day run rate near mid year as discussed on the last call, and this will position us to finish the year within our stated annual production guidance range. Now solid, steady operational performance that creates optionality to optimize per share returns, and we're starting to see that as we speak. And our decision points for 2024, I think that's a great example of this at work. One option is to keep activity steady at the 1 frac crew planned through 2023 and early 2024, which will result in increased production to approximately 5.90 Bs in 2024 without increasing activity beyond a single frac crew. That's a scenario that's been and is currently reflected in the guidance for 2023 free cash flow The one frac crew plan, so to speak. Speaker 200:06:58Now an alternative option would be to slow some select activity in capital in 2023, Pull 2024 production closer to flat from 2023 levels and then build DUC inventory to bring on at the right time and build incremental free cash flow in the near term. Now ultimately, as we've mentioned on previous calls and as we'll continue to I reiterate, production, it's a result and not an objective within our strategy and business model and our decision making, is going to be focused On long term per share value as opposed to quarter to quarter or year to year optics. We'll clinically follow the math as NYMEX takes Twist and turns, but the key to understand for now is CNX's reset operational efficiencies to a new higher level of performance. In addition to the core business of the company, the New Technologies Group, let's talk a minute about that, It's delivering tangible results and developing exciting projects. One project that we recently announced is a collaboration with Adams Fork Energy, constructing a multi $1,000,000,000 clean ammonia manufacturing facility in Mingo County, West Virginia, and CNX has entered into a strategic partnership to provide natural gas, Wastewater disposal and carbon sequestration services to that project, CNX is also leading engagement with the Appalachian Regional Clean Hydrogen Hub, better known as Arch 2, to hopefully attract DOE hub designation and funding for the project. Speaker 200:08:28This project fits squarely With CNX's focus on tangible, impactful and local, functional ESG solutions, and it also supports our Appalachia First Vision, It will catalyze a new vibrant middle class in the region, especially in some of the most underserved parts of the region such as Mingo County, West Virginia. So stay tuned for future updates on this exciting project. And by the way, I mentioned the tangible financial results being delivered by the new technologies team at CNX. Happy to report that new technologies will be firmly free cash flow positive in 2023. That didn't take long. Speaker 200:09:03And more importantly, it will be a growing contributor to our free cash flow in 2024 and beyond. Now, I'd like to mention that we expect to release our Summation of this company's strategy and philosophy and values and business model, to us it's not a compliance document or a check the box Activity, but instead it's a cataloging of a focused and deliberate investment of company resources into everything we're doing to embrace In many ways, it is our clinical math of how we go about making resource investment decisions combined with a labor of love. And there are many good takeaways you'll see in the report on what we're doing across all three categories of E, Many of these include updates on investments we're making within the communities we operate in and our new technologies initiatives to revolutionize the Energy and Transportation Industries. On Slide 8, if you give that a look, it highlights some of the corporate sustainability report metrics. As you can see, Appalachia is the lowest methane intensity basin across the United States and CNX screens even better The graph is we continue to focus on driving results, again, that are tangible and impactful and local. Speaker 200:10:33I'd like to wrap up my remarks By discussing the G that I just mentioned or governance side of the equation of ESG, specifically if you are a shareholder of CNX, Then you've probably heard from the company either directly or indirectly through a proxy statement mailer asking you to vote in accordance With our Board of Directors' recommendations at our Annual Shareholders' Meeting, which includes voting against a climate lobbying shareholder proposal. On the surface, this shareholder proposal seems immaterial and perfunctory, at least to a degree, but of course, we all know OpEx can be deceiving. So we decided to take an objective and a vocal approach in stating a public opinion in support of owner value. Frankly, we see these types of shareholder proposals fueled by a cottage industry of self serving activist firms that are more interested in placing proposals for attention and genuinely improving the business of the underlying company or the industry or the environment for that matter. They don't look to create value or even want to engage with the company, instead they're designed to manufacture attention for attention's sake. Speaker 200:11:38And worse yet, they end up eroding sound governance in the long term and they frustrate our duty to shareholders solely so these firms can appropriate value for themselves. As such, these proposals are spam like in nature and they're immaterial and not only add 0 value, but they often destroy value. We hope that the industry and the capital markets will follow our lead and push back against these types of proposals because we see them as a much bigger issue that ultimately needs to be stopped by shareholders and proxy advisory companies. And by the way, as such, are happy to see Glass Lewis' recent recommendation to vote against this proposal and we will continue to do our part to see this through to the right outcome. So with that, let me turn it over to Alan to review the details of the quarter. Speaker 300:12:22Thanks, Nick, and good morning to everyone. As Nick mentioned, this quarter represents the 13th consecutive quarter of free cash flow generation through the execution of our sustainable business model and long term strategic plan. In the quarter, we generated approximately $89,000,000 in free cash flow. Since we initially laid out our free cash flow plan in the Q1 of 2020, This brings our key move total to approximately $1,700,000,000 or roughly 65% of our current market cap. Let's first turn to the capital allocation side of the business as highlighted on Slide 6. Speaker 300:12:53As you can see, we continued our market leading shareholder return by repurchasing approximately 6,000,000 shares in the quarter and another 500,000 shares after the close of the quarter through April 13. In total, We bought back approximately 3% of our shares outstanding over that timeframe. And since Q3 of 2020, we have repurchased approximately 28% of the outstanding shares of the company. Due to what we see as a significant disconnect between the current share price and its intrinsic value, repurchasing our shares continues to be a remarkable low risk capital allocation opportunity, which will dramatically reduce our denominator and thereby meaningfully grow our long term free cash flow per share. On the balance sheet side, Total debt levels remained essentially flat with the previous quarter, while net debt slightly increased as we used cash from the balance sheet toward share repurchases during the quarter. Speaker 300:13:40Our net debt to trailing 12 month EBITDA is 1.8 times, and we expect it to continue to adjust throughout the year to reflect fluctuations in EBITDA driven by commodity pricing. More broadly, as part of executing our sustainable business model, we expect to continue to pay down absolute debt levels over time to further bolster our balance sheet. As always, the magnitude and pace of that deleveraging will be a function of our capital allocation process. As seen on Slide 5, The balance sheet management activities that we've undertaken during the last several years have positioned us with substantial liquidity and an enviable debt maturity runway. These two attributes, amongst others, differentiate us and allow us to confidently continue our market leading shareholder return initiatives even during downturns in the commodity cycle. Speaker 300:14:22Additionally, they position us to take advantage of any deepening valuation disconnects that might occur in either the equity or debt markets. Let's now shift to our updated 2023 outlook on Slide 7. As Nick already discussed, due to the mild winter weather and increased year over year national production levels, We have seen a rapid and remarkable natural gas price decline that started in the Q1 of 2022 and continued through the Q1 of 2023. Additionally, even though we have approximately 80% of our 2023 gas production volumes fully hedged for NYMEX and basis differentials, This leaves roughly 100 Bcf of natural gas volumes that are open and exposed to pricing fluctuations. Roughly half of those open volumes were sold in the Q1 and the remaining half are spread across remaining 3 quarters of the year. Speaker 300:15:07Therefore, as a result of the decline in Q1 price environment and the over $1 per MMBtu decline in 9 months prices For the remainder of the calendar year since our last quarterly call, we are updating our annual EBITDAX range to be between $950,000,000 $1,050,000,000 And our full year free cash flow guidance to approximately $250,000,000 Despite the significant drop in gas prices for 2023, Our operational plan and capital guidance for the year remains unchanged as the current long term strip prices continue to reflect a bullish long term gas outlook. As such, we continue to expect annual production volumes to be between 555 Bcfe and 5.75 Bcfe and to return to around a 1.6 Bcfe During the quarter, we ran 2 full rigs, a top hole rig and a continuous frac crew. We expect to release the 2nd rig towards the end of the second quarter. And as such, we expect the cadence of capital spending to reflect that decline in activity and move sequentially lower in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As we touched on last quarter and as we've highlighted again on Slide 7, Critical investments in key long term infrastructure projects that maintain our basin leading cost position and enable us to grow our production volumes in 2024 to around 5.90 Bcfe or approximately 5% year over year. Speaker 300:16:32Lastly, despite no changes to the current plan at this time, Should forward gas prices decline further throughout the year, we have a great deal of built in optionality and will not hesitate to reduce our capital While we are seeing some positive indications, we are not yet seeing a decline in these costs reflective of the drop in gas prices the industry has experienced. However, should gas prices continue on their current trajectory, we would expect that dynamic to change during the second half of the year as has typically been experienced in other cycles. We believe that this potential service cost deflation in the second half of the year would have some benefit in 2023. However, given the potential timing of the reductions, its biggest impact would be seen on 20 This expected change in service costs, in addition to the higher expected production volumes previously mentioned, will help drive higher free cash flow in 2024 and beyond. Touching briefly on fully burdened cash cost per unit, we expect 2023 costs to be lower than 2022 and most important, We continue to expect to drive our cash costs lower moving forward as we optimize all parts of the business. Speaker 300:17:41To conclude, we are confident that the sustainable business model we have created will continue to deliver value to our shareholders throughout the cycle, as evidenced by our expectation Being able to continue to generate free cash flow for the remainder of 'twenty three, despite where prices are currently at. Our focus for the remainder of the year will be on safe, on consistent and clinical capital allocation to grow our long term free cash flow per share and most importantly, as always, on ensuring all of our decisions With that, I will turn it back over to Tyler for Q and A. Speaker 100:18:20Thanks, Alan. And operator, if you can please open the line up for questions at this time, please. Operator00:18:25We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Zach Parham from JPMorgan. Please go Speaker 400:18:49ahead. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess, first, just on the balance sheet. Over the past several quarters, you've been very aggressive Buyback with less focus on debt reduction. Speaker 400:19:01Nick, in your prepared remarks, you mentioned continuing to return cash to shareholders through the remainder of 'twenty three. But just how are you thinking about the balance sheet here with gas prices moving lower over the last 6 months, you're approaching 2 turns leverage. Will you consider shifting more free cash flow back to the balance sheet later this year? Just any color there. Speaker 300:19:23Yes. Hi, this is Alan. So I think what you're seeing now is the cumulative effect of all of our transactions in the last several years have positioned us to kind of withstand this sort So I mean, we've been very clear that we are built to kind of continue to be able to do shareholder returns throughout the cycle. So for the rest of 'twenty three, given our maturity runway, given our ample liquidity and given our hedge book, we're comfortable that we'll be able to consistently return capital and not have to Have any sort of issues with debt management in the foreseeable future? Speaker 400:19:54Got it. Thanks for that color. And then one just on OpEx. Operating costs were a bit higher than expected in 1Q. And I noticed in the slide deck that you increased the 2023 fully burdened cash cost guidance $0.05 per annum. Speaker 400:20:09Can you just give us color on what's going on there? Is that just inflation driven? Just any thoughts on that number? Speaker 300:20:16Yes. So kind of 2 primary drivers. The first kind of the impact in the Q1 of being unable to sell unutilized Feet. So there wasn't as much of a spread on some of our pipes as we had initially forecasted. So that was one of the primary drivers. Speaker 300:20:29The second is we've added some kind of incremental planned maintenance, major maintenance projects On the compressor side, so we've updated the outlook for that. Speaker 400:20:40Got it. Thanks for the color. Operator00:20:44The next question comes from Leo Mariani from Roth MKM. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:52Hey, guys. I was hoping you could talk a little about these kind of 2 different scenarios that you're envisaging here That you kind of outlined in the call where there could be some cutting activity depending on what the math sort of tells you, totally understood Very focused on what the markets and math are going to tell you here, but just wanted to get a little better sense of kind of what you're going to be looking at. Obviously, Term gas prices are very weak, but as you look out into 2024 and 2025, as you mentioned, the strip is materially higher. So Is it really more of a drop in that strip as we get into the winter and into 2024 that may cause CNX Next, to kind of pull back a little bit on activity this year or is there also going to be some impact from spot prices? Just trying to get a sense of how the dynamic plays out in terms of spot versus strip affecting your plans here. Speaker 300:21:47Yes. So, a couple of things on that. So, from a kind of ongoing production perspective, our variable costs are incredibly low because of the midstream ownership. So the way we look at this opportunity is always in terms of kind of when we're going to bring wells on. So think about it in terms of till cadence Or deferring a completions activity or something in that realm. Speaker 300:22:07I think what you saw in 2020 is kind of the play that we would use if cash prices continue to be weak, Where you kind of delay tills from kind of the shoulder season towards the end of the year and you bring those on in the winter. So obviously, we're looking at that And we'll keep an eye on the strip and maybe I'll kick it over to Nav for how he thinks on kind of shut ins and other things in that nature. Speaker 600:22:31Yes. On shutting in of existing production, what we are trying to do is optimize over the lifecycle valuation of the asset. So since we have integrated upstream and midstream, what we are trying to maximize is our sand phase to sales point Deliverability of the gas. And so for that, we are doing order analysis on all the wells based on where they are on the lifecycle Phase of those and that will go on the decision because for example, sometimes it's easy to shut those wells in, but it's like pretty So we are trying to solve for 2 things. 1 is maximizing production and 2 is minimizing the cost. Speaker 500:23:20Okay. That's helpful for sure here. And then I basically just wanted to be clear though, it sounds like though at this point, You guys reiterated the guidance. Everything is intact, so there hasn't been any kind of material change of course. And I guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens. Speaker 500:23:36Just wanted to clarify that. Speaker 300:23:38Yes, that's right. Right now, we're the forward strips. We're kind of steady state and we're keeping an eye on it and we're always developing plans to react to Speaker 200:23:58If those forwards change to your point, Those will change the longer term rates of return. That's when we got the ability and the flexibility to adjust when needed. Operator00:24:09Okay, very clear. That's helpful for sure. Speaker 500:24:11I just wanted to ask on the Adams Fork deal here for sure. Obviously, a Very sizable project there in West Virginia. Can you just provide a little bit more color on what CNX's role there is going to be? Are you folks going to be like an exclusive Gas supplier to that clean ammonia plant and on the carbon capture side, are you guys kind of taking sort of a traditional point source CO2 role where you guys will kind of manage a storage reservoir and drill injection wells and bury that T02 Underground, just any additional color would be great. Speaker 700:24:45Hey, Leo, this is Ravi. You're right. The The strategic partnership that we're discussing with Adams Fork at this point in time, we will be the gas supplier. Our gas assets sit pretty Close to where this facility will be constructed. And we do have the expertise in drilling these deep wells and Sequesting CO2, we have assets in place that allow us to sequester the CO2 in the deep formation. Speaker 700:25:12So we'll bring those expertise amongst other services that we can offer to this project. Speaker 800:25:18Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:22Our next question comes from Michael Ciulla from Stephens, please go ahead. Speaker 900:25:30Yes. Good morning, guys. Alan, you mentioned you've been a bit Surprised, the industry activity hasn't responded to lower gas prices yet. Thoughts on Takeaway capacity from the basin and, I guess with or without MVP, how that looks? Speaker 300:25:52Yes. So there haven't really been any changes to takeaway capacity like to your point pending where MPP lands. I don't think we have any unique insight into whether that project Come on or not, as a fellow gas producer, I think we'd all like to see that just to help with national kind of production levels. But I think my comment on kind of industry response was more too on the supply, the service cost side. We haven't really seen that rollover just yet, but we're expecting it to as we see some folks adjust They're scheduled moving forward. Speaker 900:26:24Got it. And maybe to follow-up on the cost side, you said you anticipate 'twenty three cost, I heard you right below 22. Is that based on further efficiencies on your side and assuming Similar OFS costs or do you actually anticipate decline in OFS costs as well? Speaker 300:26:46Yes. So we did last year about $1.20. Right now, we're guiding to $1.50 with kind of the current cost environment. So we're going to try and beat that even. So that's the genesis of that comment. Operator00:27:05Our next question comes from Noel Parks from Tuohy Brothers. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:27:11Hi, good morning. Speaker 400:27:14Good morning. Speaker 800:27:17Going back to The Adams Fork and the ammonia plant project, I'm just curious, could you talk a bit about maybe how long you are in discussions For forming the partnership and how the 45Q carbon capture credit increase Played in, I wonder was there a possibility of a deal in the works even before that became evident Or was that really a catalyst for making it happen? Speaker 700:27:51Hey, this is Robbie again. So the strategic partnership discussions with Adam's work are still being worked out. There's a lot of details that are going to go into it. And the relationship is going to change over time as some of the other milestones are hit as we as the discussions kind of pursue with Adam's fork. And on the 45Q side of things, that is definitely something that improves the outcome for that project. Speaker 700:28:20These incentives, they provide they could provide a pretty steady revenue stream. I think the technology that we're trying to deploy there is going to give us A fairly clean stream of CO2 to be sequestered and the assets, the midstream assets, the surface assets and the force assets that we have in place kind of make us the ideal partner to partner with in a project like that. And we expect the 45Q type that are impacted by energy transition types scenarios. So we're excited that there's a lot of things that can make this project Sort of very suitable in that West Virginia region. There's access to water, there's access to power, there's access to our midstream assets, gas assets. Speaker 700:29:14So There's a lot at play, but still the 45Q type credits play a huge role in making the project viable. Speaker 800:29:23Great. And just on the macro front, of course, with the volatility we've seen in natgas over the last Quarter plus. Much of the industry understandably has been looking to the LNG capacity coming online 24, 25, And I detect in those discussions a little bit more of a shift to A more granular perspective as far as exactly which trains, which projects, how they're running according to schedule, whether, for example, Higher interest rate environment, some of them might get pushed out a bit. I'm just curious if you've detected anything in the wind That affects your macro thinking, especially as you're looking ahead to 2024 and And 25, which I know you have an eye on because of your programmatic hedging policy. Speaker 200:30:20This is Nick. I think macro from a demand perspective for natural gas and we've been on the record for this for a while, it's Sort of a major thrust of the new technologies effort within the company. Things like LNG exports certainly is going to have a role and a time with respect Not just national energy supply demand and natural gas markets, but also global of course. But from a sequential thinking perspective for a lot of reasons, From policy to just straight up economics, the more immediate and more impactful opportunity for demand creation within natural gas in the Appalachian Basin is with vertical integration into transportation types, manufacturing types of industries. And that's why we're so excited about projects like Those can be done much quicker. Speaker 200:31:11Those basically shrink supply chains from tens of thousands of miles cumulatively Dozens of miles in some instances and those have immediate sort of economic drivers, benefits, rationale that also tie quite nicely with policy, whether it's regional, state or federal. So it's those transportation opportunities, manufacturing opportunities, where we think when you get down to it, the Capital will be deployed to in the front, let's say, 3 to 5 years. LNG export and growth of LNG export will certainly have its time, but that's probably going to come later and then Operator00:31:52This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Lewis for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:32:00Great. Thank you everyone for joining this morning. Please feel free to reach out if you might have any additional questions. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with everyone again next quarter. Thank you. 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The company owns rights to extract natural gas from shale properties in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Ohio, as well as rights to extract natural gas from other shale and shallow oil and gas formations in Illinois, Indiana, New York, and Virginia. It also owns rights to extract CBM in Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and New Mexico. In addition, the company designs, builds, and operates natural gas gathering systems to move gas from the wellhead to interstate pipelines or other local sales points; owns and operates approximately 2,600 miles of natural gas gathering pipelines, as well as various natural gas processing facilities. It also offers turn-key solutions for water sourcing, delivery, and disposal for its natural gas operations and for third parties. The company was formerly known as CONSOL Energy Inc. and changed its name to CNX Resources Corporation in November 2017. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the CNX Resources First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler Lewis, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:27Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, and good morning to everybody. Welcome to CNX's Q1 conference call. We have in the room today Nick Deulius, our President and CEO Alan Sheppard, our Chief Financial Officer Navneet Beal, our Chief Operating Officer and Ravi Srivastava, President of our New Technologies Drew? Today, we will be discussing our Q1 results. This morning, we posted an updated slide presentation to our website. Speaker 100:00:57Also, detailed first quarter earnings release data, such as quarterly E and P data, financial statements and non GAAP reconciliations are posted to our website in a document titled 1Q 2023 Earnings Results and Supplemental Information of CNX Resources. As a reminder, any forward looking statements we make or comments about future expectations are subject to business risks, we have laid out for you in our press release today as well as in our previous Securities and Exchange Commission filings. We will begin our call today with prepared remarks by Nick, followed by Alan, and then we will open the call up for Q and A, where Nav and Ravi will participate as well. With that, let me turn the call over to you, Nick. Speaker 200:01:41Thanks, Tyler. Good morning, everybody. First, let me give you a warning at the start. This is take your kids to work day for us. We've got over 80 Kids throughout the hallways in the office at the headquarters today and we lost contain about 45 minutes ago. Speaker 200:01:55So if you hear any yelling or screaming, that's what that's all about. I apologize in advance. It is one of my favorite days actually of the year. Q1 of 2023, it marked 13 consecutive quarters of And to acquire a significant amount of our shares at prices that we believe represent a substantial discount to their intrinsic value. During the quarter, we repurchased an additional 3% of our outstanding shares and that's resulting in the cumulative retirement of approximately 28% of the outstanding shares of the company since 2020. Speaker 200:02:35And as we discussed on our previous call, this magnitude and the pace of the buybacks It's not only been bested by a small handful, a very small handful actually of other companies across the S and P 1500 over the same period of And you get a sense of the magnitude of our share repurchase program when you look at Slide 3 in the deck, which shows the top 30 largest gas is comprised of share buybacks and any dividends paid, divided over each producer's market cap. You can see that CNX is at the top of that list. Our 2022 annual gas production ranks somewhere in the middle of this group. And returning capital to our shareholders, of course, that's a crucial component of our capital allocation strategy, and we're going to continue to evaluate the most By keeping a strong balance sheet, managing our debt levels and maintaining adequate liquidity to weather economic headwinds, and Alan will have more on this shortly. Meanwhile, our industry has been smacked with a collapsed NYMEX. Speaker 200:04:12Beginning late Q4 of last year and throughout the Q1 of this year, the industry experienced an extraordinary decline in natural gas prices Over a very short period of time and specifically we saw NYMEX natural gas prices decline by approximately 74% when comparing March 2023 to September 2022 prices. In this rapid deterioration of pricing over the past two quarters, When you couple it with the much discussed inflationary pressures on every imaginable input to the sector, those duo that duo will pose Near term challenges throughout the industry, CNX might be the only player in basin that will be free cash flow positive for the remainder of 2023 at the current strip and will likely be the only one returning significant capital to owners for the remainder of 2023 and many in the We are increasing debt leverage and outspending cash flow as we speak. We believe the industry is going to struggle to continue to execute the Shale 3.0 business model Returning capital to shareholders in this phase of the commodity cycle, where you've got prices that are low and costs that are remaining high. But on the other hand, CNX remains well positioned to navigate this type of environment as the low cost producer in Appalachia with one of the most robust hedge books in the industry. Speaker 200:05:28Given our targeted activity set and integrated midstream and water infrastructure ownership, we've got more flexibility than most producers to adapt Our activity set and that flexibility in volatile times like these becomes incredibly impactful When you combine it with how Nav and his operations team are focused on driving efficient execution, optimization throughout the natural gas manufacturing process, Assuming we don't make any adjustments to our activity set related to the broader macro environment, we expect to be around the 1.6 Bcfe per day run rate near mid year as discussed on the last call, and this will position us to finish the year within our stated annual production guidance range. Now solid, steady operational performance that creates optionality to optimize per share returns, and we're starting to see that as we speak. And our decision points for 2024, I think that's a great example of this at work. One option is to keep activity steady at the 1 frac crew planned through 2023 and early 2024, which will result in increased production to approximately 5.90 Bs in 2024 without increasing activity beyond a single frac crew. That's a scenario that's been and is currently reflected in the guidance for 2023 free cash flow The one frac crew plan, so to speak. Speaker 200:06:58Now an alternative option would be to slow some select activity in capital in 2023, Pull 2024 production closer to flat from 2023 levels and then build DUC inventory to bring on at the right time and build incremental free cash flow in the near term. Now ultimately, as we've mentioned on previous calls and as we'll continue to I reiterate, production, it's a result and not an objective within our strategy and business model and our decision making, is going to be focused On long term per share value as opposed to quarter to quarter or year to year optics. We'll clinically follow the math as NYMEX takes Twist and turns, but the key to understand for now is CNX's reset operational efficiencies to a new higher level of performance. In addition to the core business of the company, the New Technologies Group, let's talk a minute about that, It's delivering tangible results and developing exciting projects. One project that we recently announced is a collaboration with Adams Fork Energy, constructing a multi $1,000,000,000 clean ammonia manufacturing facility in Mingo County, West Virginia, and CNX has entered into a strategic partnership to provide natural gas, Wastewater disposal and carbon sequestration services to that project, CNX is also leading engagement with the Appalachian Regional Clean Hydrogen Hub, better known as Arch 2, to hopefully attract DOE hub designation and funding for the project. Speaker 200:08:28This project fits squarely With CNX's focus on tangible, impactful and local, functional ESG solutions, and it also supports our Appalachia First Vision, It will catalyze a new vibrant middle class in the region, especially in some of the most underserved parts of the region such as Mingo County, West Virginia. So stay tuned for future updates on this exciting project. And by the way, I mentioned the tangible financial results being delivered by the new technologies team at CNX. Happy to report that new technologies will be firmly free cash flow positive in 2023. That didn't take long. Speaker 200:09:03And more importantly, it will be a growing contributor to our free cash flow in 2024 and beyond. Now, I'd like to mention that we expect to release our Summation of this company's strategy and philosophy and values and business model, to us it's not a compliance document or a check the box Activity, but instead it's a cataloging of a focused and deliberate investment of company resources into everything we're doing to embrace In many ways, it is our clinical math of how we go about making resource investment decisions combined with a labor of love. And there are many good takeaways you'll see in the report on what we're doing across all three categories of E, Many of these include updates on investments we're making within the communities we operate in and our new technologies initiatives to revolutionize the Energy and Transportation Industries. On Slide 8, if you give that a look, it highlights some of the corporate sustainability report metrics. As you can see, Appalachia is the lowest methane intensity basin across the United States and CNX screens even better The graph is we continue to focus on driving results, again, that are tangible and impactful and local. Speaker 200:10:33I'd like to wrap up my remarks By discussing the G that I just mentioned or governance side of the equation of ESG, specifically if you are a shareholder of CNX, Then you've probably heard from the company either directly or indirectly through a proxy statement mailer asking you to vote in accordance With our Board of Directors' recommendations at our Annual Shareholders' Meeting, which includes voting against a climate lobbying shareholder proposal. On the surface, this shareholder proposal seems immaterial and perfunctory, at least to a degree, but of course, we all know OpEx can be deceiving. So we decided to take an objective and a vocal approach in stating a public opinion in support of owner value. Frankly, we see these types of shareholder proposals fueled by a cottage industry of self serving activist firms that are more interested in placing proposals for attention and genuinely improving the business of the underlying company or the industry or the environment for that matter. They don't look to create value or even want to engage with the company, instead they're designed to manufacture attention for attention's sake. Speaker 200:11:38And worse yet, they end up eroding sound governance in the long term and they frustrate our duty to shareholders solely so these firms can appropriate value for themselves. As such, these proposals are spam like in nature and they're immaterial and not only add 0 value, but they often destroy value. We hope that the industry and the capital markets will follow our lead and push back against these types of proposals because we see them as a much bigger issue that ultimately needs to be stopped by shareholders and proxy advisory companies. And by the way, as such, are happy to see Glass Lewis' recent recommendation to vote against this proposal and we will continue to do our part to see this through to the right outcome. So with that, let me turn it over to Alan to review the details of the quarter. Speaker 300:12:22Thanks, Nick, and good morning to everyone. As Nick mentioned, this quarter represents the 13th consecutive quarter of free cash flow generation through the execution of our sustainable business model and long term strategic plan. In the quarter, we generated approximately $89,000,000 in free cash flow. Since we initially laid out our free cash flow plan in the Q1 of 2020, This brings our key move total to approximately $1,700,000,000 or roughly 65% of our current market cap. Let's first turn to the capital allocation side of the business as highlighted on Slide 6. Speaker 300:12:53As you can see, we continued our market leading shareholder return by repurchasing approximately 6,000,000 shares in the quarter and another 500,000 shares after the close of the quarter through April 13. In total, We bought back approximately 3% of our shares outstanding over that timeframe. And since Q3 of 2020, we have repurchased approximately 28% of the outstanding shares of the company. Due to what we see as a significant disconnect between the current share price and its intrinsic value, repurchasing our shares continues to be a remarkable low risk capital allocation opportunity, which will dramatically reduce our denominator and thereby meaningfully grow our long term free cash flow per share. On the balance sheet side, Total debt levels remained essentially flat with the previous quarter, while net debt slightly increased as we used cash from the balance sheet toward share repurchases during the quarter. Speaker 300:13:40Our net debt to trailing 12 month EBITDA is 1.8 times, and we expect it to continue to adjust throughout the year to reflect fluctuations in EBITDA driven by commodity pricing. More broadly, as part of executing our sustainable business model, we expect to continue to pay down absolute debt levels over time to further bolster our balance sheet. As always, the magnitude and pace of that deleveraging will be a function of our capital allocation process. As seen on Slide 5, The balance sheet management activities that we've undertaken during the last several years have positioned us with substantial liquidity and an enviable debt maturity runway. These two attributes, amongst others, differentiate us and allow us to confidently continue our market leading shareholder return initiatives even during downturns in the commodity cycle. Speaker 300:14:22Additionally, they position us to take advantage of any deepening valuation disconnects that might occur in either the equity or debt markets. Let's now shift to our updated 2023 outlook on Slide 7. As Nick already discussed, due to the mild winter weather and increased year over year national production levels, We have seen a rapid and remarkable natural gas price decline that started in the Q1 of 2022 and continued through the Q1 of 2023. Additionally, even though we have approximately 80% of our 2023 gas production volumes fully hedged for NYMEX and basis differentials, This leaves roughly 100 Bcf of natural gas volumes that are open and exposed to pricing fluctuations. Roughly half of those open volumes were sold in the Q1 and the remaining half are spread across remaining 3 quarters of the year. Speaker 300:15:07Therefore, as a result of the decline in Q1 price environment and the over $1 per MMBtu decline in 9 months prices For the remainder of the calendar year since our last quarterly call, we are updating our annual EBITDAX range to be between $950,000,000 $1,050,000,000 And our full year free cash flow guidance to approximately $250,000,000 Despite the significant drop in gas prices for 2023, Our operational plan and capital guidance for the year remains unchanged as the current long term strip prices continue to reflect a bullish long term gas outlook. As such, we continue to expect annual production volumes to be between 555 Bcfe and 5.75 Bcfe and to return to around a 1.6 Bcfe During the quarter, we ran 2 full rigs, a top hole rig and a continuous frac crew. We expect to release the 2nd rig towards the end of the second quarter. And as such, we expect the cadence of capital spending to reflect that decline in activity and move sequentially lower in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As we touched on last quarter and as we've highlighted again on Slide 7, Critical investments in key long term infrastructure projects that maintain our basin leading cost position and enable us to grow our production volumes in 2024 to around 5.90 Bcfe or approximately 5% year over year. Speaker 300:16:32Lastly, despite no changes to the current plan at this time, Should forward gas prices decline further throughout the year, we have a great deal of built in optionality and will not hesitate to reduce our capital While we are seeing some positive indications, we are not yet seeing a decline in these costs reflective of the drop in gas prices the industry has experienced. However, should gas prices continue on their current trajectory, we would expect that dynamic to change during the second half of the year as has typically been experienced in other cycles. We believe that this potential service cost deflation in the second half of the year would have some benefit in 2023. However, given the potential timing of the reductions, its biggest impact would be seen on 20 This expected change in service costs, in addition to the higher expected production volumes previously mentioned, will help drive higher free cash flow in 2024 and beyond. Touching briefly on fully burdened cash cost per unit, we expect 2023 costs to be lower than 2022 and most important, We continue to expect to drive our cash costs lower moving forward as we optimize all parts of the business. Speaker 300:17:41To conclude, we are confident that the sustainable business model we have created will continue to deliver value to our shareholders throughout the cycle, as evidenced by our expectation Being able to continue to generate free cash flow for the remainder of 'twenty three, despite where prices are currently at. Our focus for the remainder of the year will be on safe, on consistent and clinical capital allocation to grow our long term free cash flow per share and most importantly, as always, on ensuring all of our decisions With that, I will turn it back over to Tyler for Q and A. Speaker 100:18:20Thanks, Alan. And operator, if you can please open the line up for questions at this time, please. Operator00:18:25We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Zach Parham from JPMorgan. Please go Speaker 400:18:49ahead. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess, first, just on the balance sheet. Over the past several quarters, you've been very aggressive Buyback with less focus on debt reduction. Speaker 400:19:01Nick, in your prepared remarks, you mentioned continuing to return cash to shareholders through the remainder of 'twenty three. But just how are you thinking about the balance sheet here with gas prices moving lower over the last 6 months, you're approaching 2 turns leverage. Will you consider shifting more free cash flow back to the balance sheet later this year? Just any color there. Speaker 300:19:23Yes. Hi, this is Alan. So I think what you're seeing now is the cumulative effect of all of our transactions in the last several years have positioned us to kind of withstand this sort So I mean, we've been very clear that we are built to kind of continue to be able to do shareholder returns throughout the cycle. So for the rest of 'twenty three, given our maturity runway, given our ample liquidity and given our hedge book, we're comfortable that we'll be able to consistently return capital and not have to Have any sort of issues with debt management in the foreseeable future? Speaker 400:19:54Got it. Thanks for that color. And then one just on OpEx. Operating costs were a bit higher than expected in 1Q. And I noticed in the slide deck that you increased the 2023 fully burdened cash cost guidance $0.05 per annum. Speaker 400:20:09Can you just give us color on what's going on there? Is that just inflation driven? Just any thoughts on that number? Speaker 300:20:16Yes. So kind of 2 primary drivers. The first kind of the impact in the Q1 of being unable to sell unutilized Feet. So there wasn't as much of a spread on some of our pipes as we had initially forecasted. So that was one of the primary drivers. Speaker 300:20:29The second is we've added some kind of incremental planned maintenance, major maintenance projects On the compressor side, so we've updated the outlook for that. Speaker 400:20:40Got it. Thanks for the color. Operator00:20:44The next question comes from Leo Mariani from Roth MKM. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:52Hey, guys. I was hoping you could talk a little about these kind of 2 different scenarios that you're envisaging here That you kind of outlined in the call where there could be some cutting activity depending on what the math sort of tells you, totally understood Very focused on what the markets and math are going to tell you here, but just wanted to get a little better sense of kind of what you're going to be looking at. Obviously, Term gas prices are very weak, but as you look out into 2024 and 2025, as you mentioned, the strip is materially higher. So Is it really more of a drop in that strip as we get into the winter and into 2024 that may cause CNX Next, to kind of pull back a little bit on activity this year or is there also going to be some impact from spot prices? Just trying to get a sense of how the dynamic plays out in terms of spot versus strip affecting your plans here. Speaker 300:21:47Yes. So, a couple of things on that. So, from a kind of ongoing production perspective, our variable costs are incredibly low because of the midstream ownership. So the way we look at this opportunity is always in terms of kind of when we're going to bring wells on. So think about it in terms of till cadence Or deferring a completions activity or something in that realm. Speaker 300:22:07I think what you saw in 2020 is kind of the play that we would use if cash prices continue to be weak, Where you kind of delay tills from kind of the shoulder season towards the end of the year and you bring those on in the winter. So obviously, we're looking at that And we'll keep an eye on the strip and maybe I'll kick it over to Nav for how he thinks on kind of shut ins and other things in that nature. Speaker 600:22:31Yes. On shutting in of existing production, what we are trying to do is optimize over the lifecycle valuation of the asset. So since we have integrated upstream and midstream, what we are trying to maximize is our sand phase to sales point Deliverability of the gas. And so for that, we are doing order analysis on all the wells based on where they are on the lifecycle Phase of those and that will go on the decision because for example, sometimes it's easy to shut those wells in, but it's like pretty So we are trying to solve for 2 things. 1 is maximizing production and 2 is minimizing the cost. Speaker 500:23:20Okay. That's helpful for sure here. And then I basically just wanted to be clear though, it sounds like though at this point, You guys reiterated the guidance. Everything is intact, so there hasn't been any kind of material change of course. And I guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens. Speaker 500:23:36Just wanted to clarify that. Speaker 300:23:38Yes, that's right. Right now, we're the forward strips. We're kind of steady state and we're keeping an eye on it and we're always developing plans to react to Speaker 200:23:58If those forwards change to your point, Those will change the longer term rates of return. That's when we got the ability and the flexibility to adjust when needed. Operator00:24:09Okay, very clear. That's helpful for sure. Speaker 500:24:11I just wanted to ask on the Adams Fork deal here for sure. Obviously, a Very sizable project there in West Virginia. Can you just provide a little bit more color on what CNX's role there is going to be? Are you folks going to be like an exclusive Gas supplier to that clean ammonia plant and on the carbon capture side, are you guys kind of taking sort of a traditional point source CO2 role where you guys will kind of manage a storage reservoir and drill injection wells and bury that T02 Underground, just any additional color would be great. Speaker 700:24:45Hey, Leo, this is Ravi. You're right. The The strategic partnership that we're discussing with Adams Fork at this point in time, we will be the gas supplier. Our gas assets sit pretty Close to where this facility will be constructed. And we do have the expertise in drilling these deep wells and Sequesting CO2, we have assets in place that allow us to sequester the CO2 in the deep formation. Speaker 700:25:12So we'll bring those expertise amongst other services that we can offer to this project. Speaker 800:25:18Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:22Our next question comes from Michael Ciulla from Stephens, please go ahead. Speaker 900:25:30Yes. Good morning, guys. Alan, you mentioned you've been a bit Surprised, the industry activity hasn't responded to lower gas prices yet. Thoughts on Takeaway capacity from the basin and, I guess with or without MVP, how that looks? Speaker 300:25:52Yes. So there haven't really been any changes to takeaway capacity like to your point pending where MPP lands. I don't think we have any unique insight into whether that project Come on or not, as a fellow gas producer, I think we'd all like to see that just to help with national kind of production levels. But I think my comment on kind of industry response was more too on the supply, the service cost side. We haven't really seen that rollover just yet, but we're expecting it to as we see some folks adjust They're scheduled moving forward. Speaker 900:26:24Got it. And maybe to follow-up on the cost side, you said you anticipate 'twenty three cost, I heard you right below 22. Is that based on further efficiencies on your side and assuming Similar OFS costs or do you actually anticipate decline in OFS costs as well? Speaker 300:26:46Yes. So we did last year about $1.20. Right now, we're guiding to $1.50 with kind of the current cost environment. So we're going to try and beat that even. So that's the genesis of that comment. Operator00:27:05Our next question comes from Noel Parks from Tuohy Brothers. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:27:11Hi, good morning. Speaker 400:27:14Good morning. Speaker 800:27:17Going back to The Adams Fork and the ammonia plant project, I'm just curious, could you talk a bit about maybe how long you are in discussions For forming the partnership and how the 45Q carbon capture credit increase Played in, I wonder was there a possibility of a deal in the works even before that became evident Or was that really a catalyst for making it happen? Speaker 700:27:51Hey, this is Robbie again. So the strategic partnership discussions with Adam's work are still being worked out. There's a lot of details that are going to go into it. And the relationship is going to change over time as some of the other milestones are hit as we as the discussions kind of pursue with Adam's fork. And on the 45Q side of things, that is definitely something that improves the outcome for that project. Speaker 700:28:20These incentives, they provide they could provide a pretty steady revenue stream. I think the technology that we're trying to deploy there is going to give us A fairly clean stream of CO2 to be sequestered and the assets, the midstream assets, the surface assets and the force assets that we have in place kind of make us the ideal partner to partner with in a project like that. And we expect the 45Q type that are impacted by energy transition types scenarios. So we're excited that there's a lot of things that can make this project Sort of very suitable in that West Virginia region. There's access to water, there's access to power, there's access to our midstream assets, gas assets. Speaker 700:29:14So There's a lot at play, but still the 45Q type credits play a huge role in making the project viable. Speaker 800:29:23Great. And just on the macro front, of course, with the volatility we've seen in natgas over the last Quarter plus. Much of the industry understandably has been looking to the LNG capacity coming online 24, 25, And I detect in those discussions a little bit more of a shift to A more granular perspective as far as exactly which trains, which projects, how they're running according to schedule, whether, for example, Higher interest rate environment, some of them might get pushed out a bit. I'm just curious if you've detected anything in the wind That affects your macro thinking, especially as you're looking ahead to 2024 and And 25, which I know you have an eye on because of your programmatic hedging policy. Speaker 200:30:20This is Nick. I think macro from a demand perspective for natural gas and we've been on the record for this for a while, it's Sort of a major thrust of the new technologies effort within the company. Things like LNG exports certainly is going to have a role and a time with respect Not just national energy supply demand and natural gas markets, but also global of course. But from a sequential thinking perspective for a lot of reasons, From policy to just straight up economics, the more immediate and more impactful opportunity for demand creation within natural gas in the Appalachian Basin is with vertical integration into transportation types, manufacturing types of industries. And that's why we're so excited about projects like Those can be done much quicker. Speaker 200:31:11Those basically shrink supply chains from tens of thousands of miles cumulatively Dozens of miles in some instances and those have immediate sort of economic drivers, benefits, rationale that also tie quite nicely with policy, whether it's regional, state or federal. So it's those transportation opportunities, manufacturing opportunities, where we think when you get down to it, the Capital will be deployed to in the front, let's say, 3 to 5 years. LNG export and growth of LNG export will certainly have its time, but that's probably going to come later and then Operator00:31:52This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Lewis for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:32:00Great. Thank you everyone for joining this morning. Please feel free to reach out if you might have any additional questions. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with everyone again next quarter. Thank you. 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