Gaia Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Net member growth returned, with 7,500 new members in Q1 to reach 766,510 subscribers and April showing an acceleration in both direct and third-party sign-ups alongside record-low member losses.
  • Q1 revenues rose sequentially for the first time in 12 months to $19.6 million, though they were down 10% year-over-year as pandemic-driven increases from 2020–2021 unwound.
  • The company cut over $5 million of annualized spend, reduced headcount by 20%, and achieved an annualized gross profit per employee of $600,000 in March, targeting pre-COVID operating efficiency.
  • Gross margins remained strong at 85.9% and are expected to stay stable, while adjusted EBITDA was $3.2 million versus $4.8 million a year ago and Q1 net loss was $1.1 million.
  • Gaia plans to launch its Gaia Marketplace in July to boost ARPU from existing members with minimal incremental marketing expense.
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Earnings Conference Call
Gaia Q1 2023
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There are 5 speakers on the call.

Operator

Afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Gaia's Inc. Financial Results for the Q1 Ended March 31, 2023. Joining us today are Gaia's CEO, Jirka Rysavy and CFO, Paul Torell. Following some prepared remarks, we will open the call for your questions. Before we get started, however, I would like to take a minute to read the Safe Harbor language.

Operator

The following constitutes the Safe Harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The matters discussed today include forward looking statements that involve numerous assumptions, risks and uncertainties. These include, but are not limited to, our ability to attract new members and retain existing members our ability to compete effectively, including for customer engagement with different modes of entertainment maintenance and expansion of device platforms for streaming, fluctuation in customer usage of our service, fluctuations in quarterly operating results, service disruptions, product risks, general economic conditions, future losses, loss of key personnel, price changes, brand reputation, acquisitions, new initiatives we undertake, security and information systems, legal liability for website content failure of third parties to provide adequate service future Internet related taxes our founders' control of us litigation consumer trends the effect of government regulation and programs the impact of public health threats, including the coronavirus COVID-nineteen pandemic and our response to it and other risks and uncertainties detailed from time to time in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our reports on Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q. Gaia assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Gaia's CEO, Mr.

Operator

Guisavi, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, everyone. And I am glad that I can again report positive results. After the challenging last year When both revenue and adjusted EBITDA increased only in single digit due to COVID lockdown member cleanup, During the Q1, we have returned to the member growth. Growth came from our direct membership, While the 3rd party providers like Amazon were still negative in January February, we added 7,500 members during the Q1, ending with 7,665 100 member on March 31, with the growth accelerating during April. Even membership And our 3rd party provider started to grow again.

Speaker 1

And we expect member growth rates to increase during the year. The growth is also being helped by improved retention. In April, the member losses hit all benefiting from our marketing focusing on campaign generating higher attention rather than mostly on cost of the trial and conversion rates. Another significant improvement become the cost per member acquisition that decreased by 13 during the Q1 as compared to Q4. Marketing investment in non English, especially French German, which have lower CPN less churns also helping.

Speaker 1

The viewing time per member started to grow again after Since COVID lockdown ended. Lot of small improvements we did since September also start to make a positive difference. As we mentioned previously, we have eliminated over $5,000,000 of annualized spending, which including 36 headcounts mostly contractors. They were added over us 2 years to offset reduced efficiency we experienced as a result While some tail pay arrangement will still impact 2nd Q costs, we expect to see the partial benefits of some The 20% reduction in headcount return us The pre COVID level of operating efficiency with annualized gross profit per employee reaching $600,000 in March. Now Paul will talk more about specifics results.

Speaker 2

Revenues for the Q1 were $19,600,000 a slight sequential increase for the first time in the past 12 months, reflecting the return to growth in our member base during the quarter. Compared to the year ago quarter, revenues 10% due primarily to Q1 2022 benefiting from the COVID related growth of 2020 2021. As we continue to invest in and release new content, particularly to support our language expansion efforts, we have increased our viewership on the exclusive portion of our library to over 85 And as a result and as expected gross margins were 85.9% during the Q1 of 2023 and we expect them to remain at this level for the near term. Total member acquisition costs during the quarter were $7,900,000 or 40.7 percent of revenues compared to $8,600,000 in the year ago quarter. We have started to realize the benefits of our focus over the past several quarters with per customer acquisition costs down 13% sequentially and a similar improvement compared to the year ago period.

Speaker 2

While we continue to experience net member contraction in our larger third party distribution partners in the first half of the quarter, we have returned to growth with our largest partner beginning in March. The return of growth on both our direct member base and third party member bases during the quarter is building our confidence that we are through the worst of the post COVID unwinding. Selling and operating expenses excluding marketing and member acquisition costs in the Q1 were $8,100,000 which is down slightly from the prior year. Corporate and G and A expenses in the Q1 were $1,800,000 which is in line with the year ago quarter. We have implemented significant cost reduction measures over the past few months And as Jirka mentioned, we will begin to see the benefits starting in the Q2 of 2023.

Speaker 2

We had a net loss of $1,100,000.05 per share during the Q1 of 2023 compared to net income of $100,000 in the year ago period. The decline was primarily driven by the reductions in revenues between periods offset by $800,000 reduction in expenses. Adjusted EBITDA as a result was $3,200,000 in the quarter compared to $4,800,000 in the year ago quarter. With our return to member base growth during the period, our working capital benefited from a sequential increase of deferred revenue of $1,400,000 with our deferred revenues ending at $15,600,000 as of March 31, 2023. We took advantage of this strong growth in deferred revenues to reduce our payables balance during the period by $900,000 from December 31.

Speaker 2

We expect to continue to benefit from the inherent negative working capital cycle in our recurring business model as we continue to grow our member base and revenues. In addition, we will begin to benefit from the $5,000,000 in reductions that Jirka mentioned during the Q2 and expect to be in a position to generate cash flows from operations in excess of the cash flows we reinvest back into our content library and product enhancements going forward. Due to our in house production capabilities and lack of contractual commitments tied to our content production, We have significant discretion in the amount and timing of this investment. Flexibility allows us the ability to adjust our investment levels to withstand a further down in the macroeconomic environment if necessary. While we are focused every day on accelerating our growth rates and getting back to positive operating margins, We have made tremendous progress over the past several quarters on key areas of the business.

Speaker 2

With continued disciplined execution and the anticipated launch of the Gaia In July, we are well positioned to continue growing revenues and cash flows going forward. With that, I will hand it back to Jirka for some closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Yes, we are on a track to launch the Gaia marketplace, which focus on existing members to increase our ARPU with minimum additional marketing expenses. Technology for it was finalized in April successfully And offering will start next week and the launch should be in July as planned. So for the summary, we have more cash Then we borrow on our credit line. It's the cash balance on March 31 being $10,800,000 and we expect Good cash flow for the remainder of the year. And this concludes our remarks.

Speaker 1

So I would like to open it for the questions. Operator, please?

Operator

Thank you, sir. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Argento with Lake Street. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Hey, Jirka. It's Paul. Good to see a nice quarter out of you guys. Paul, could you just you had mentioned deferred revenue was up. Can you just walk us through All that, it kind of just the mechanics there in terms of as you're doing more direct versus third party subscribers, then What's the mix of month to month versus prepaids?

Speaker 2

Sure. So that's a Good, astute observation there as we shift the member base growth from indirect members to direct members, we get the benefit of the negative working capital versus our partners collecting the money and then remitting it to us monthly. So that's a good pickup there. And then in terms of the monthly versus annual mix, On our direct member base, we're about fifty-fifty of the existing member base between monthly and annual. And when we look at Our new sign ups, we vary between 25% 30% of new sign ups that convert on the annual plan versus the monthly plan.

Speaker 3

Got it. And then in terms of pricing, have you taken any price increases or done anything on the pricing side, Rysa?

Speaker 2

We have not. And I think as the world is unwound from COVID, we've been watching what other players in the industry are doing. We know from prior studies that we have some room, but I think consumer preferences and comfort levels are Being tested right now as people are launching AVOD models and Netflix is doing what they're doing with the password sharing crackdown. So we're keeping an eye on it and we definitely have The opportunity to move it up based on prior studies, but I think we're just waiting to see how the macroeconomic Environment plays out the rest of this year before we make a final decision.

Speaker 3

And then one last one just on customer acquisition. Did guys see better conversion as things kind of normalize a little bit out there? What are you seeing in terms of In a conversion or in a cost of acquire?

Speaker 2

Yes. So I think it's as Jirka mentioned, we're less focused on the cost of We're more focused on retention and the way that we look at that is 1 3 month retention of our Campaign, so we're actually finding that it might make sense to pay slightly more for a given campaign based on how it retains. And then conversely, It actually makes sense to cut efficient measured by conversion rate and CPA campaigns because they're not retaining as well as the other campaigns. And that's really We started that about 5 months ago and this quarter reflects the early benefits of that type of tweaking of what we're doing as it relates to our spending.

Speaker 1

Yes. As I said, our cost per actually acquisition, not the conversion, but actually member decreased 13% from 3rd 4th to Q1, which is very significant for us. And but it's definitely Helping that we our retention is better. As I said, the losses were the lowest in the history of the company, so on the basis of Percent. And so I'll be very happy with the result.

Speaker 1

And it's actually getting even better in April than in the Q1. So it's very encouraging what's Happening kind of across the board for us.

Speaker 3

So is that minus 13% per acquired Customer or is that 13% total dollars spent down?

Speaker 2

Per acquired customer, the spend is flat roughly.

Speaker 3

Got it.

Speaker 1

What we call CPA, cost per acquisition. It's we look at cost of the member when they To get somebody in a trial, but we're talking actually cost of customer after they convert from the trial.

Speaker 3

Final for me on content. What's the expectation in terms of You're going to spend similar to last year? Or how does that get moderated, if any?

Speaker 2

Well, I think we look at it as a combination of Content plus product spending that flows through the investing side of the cash flows statement and part of the reduction that Jirka mentioned in terms of the contract levels was on our development side, which was in that line. So that number is going to come down as it relates to the prior year. As it relates to overall content spend as a mix of that line, we're really evaluating if we Continue to see this growth in our foreign language markets. We might accelerate our spending there. But as I said in my prepared remarks, it's really up to our discretion of How we invest and at what levels we invest.

Speaker 2

So if we keep seeing growth, we might ramp up content. And if the Macroeconomic environment deteriorates, we have the ability to pull back.

Speaker 1

Yes. We generally try to kind of Back to content to the revenues what we are running. But as I said, our viewing, the customer viewing start to grow because we used to grow, but Through the COVID, but after the COVID ended, obviously, as people start to not be home, the viewing decline, but it start to grow again Q1. So it's a much better benchmark to kind of look at new content, but generally we try to peg it to the revenue.

Speaker 3

Great. That's helpful. Appreciate it. Good luck to rest of the way, guys. Thanks.

Operator

Thanks, Mark. Our next question comes from the line of Thierry Gloyd with Water Tower Research. Please proceed with your

Speaker 4

Thank you. Hi, Jocca. Hi, Paul. Nice quarter. Mark covered a few issues, but Maybe just a couple more, maybe a bit more color.

Speaker 4

The acquisition cost being down, is it Are you just having more success with the existing marketing strategy? Or did you change something And are able to be more effective with the marketing dollars?

Speaker 2

I think it's a Combination of being more effective with the marketing dollars and the channels that we're already spending in, as we said, looking at it from that campaign dynamic And not just what's the cost and volume of acquisition, but what's the retention. And so that's obviously helping as we tune that. And then secondarily, we're always testing and evaluating new platforms and channels to market as we continue to try And drive growth, particularly given the privacy changes and how that's impacted marketing kind of writ large online. And that's not going to change. It's only going to continue to become more and more challenging to use targeted or hyper targeted Marketing to go after customers as people pull back on their availability to share data.

Speaker 1

And we also had several new people in marketing, especially the leads. So They start to imply the credibility. I think that plays also the role. So I think it's also credit to the people.

Speaker 4

Great. Somewhat similar question about retention. Is it the new program that you've introduced? What's the breakdown between that versus maybe You lost a few members last year. Now you have the hard court members who are not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 4

What's the breakdown between Actions you made versus an improvement in the kind of in the quality of the existing members?

Speaker 1

Well, there are really 2 things. I mean, the first, obviously, we had a very challenging microenvironment. It wasn't just us, Pretty much anybody on streaming, people who we get during COVID, they were leaving, it was like industry wide. So that kind of ended By end of the year, actually kind of start to really come down and Probably fall, but by end of the year, most of that was over. There were some other still aspect at the beginning first couple of months like the 3rd party like Amazon because they make a price change on their own, so they probably kind of added to it.

Speaker 1

So that Trend is kind of gone for us. At least we don't see that anymore. So it's kind of normalized. But I think biggest impact is that we start to focus In by the campaign on the campaigns, they have high retention, but it was new. We created a new algorithm with that not only On the conversion and acquisition, I mean, cost of trials, but mainly eliminating campaign, they might be efficient, but they didn't Lead to longer attention.

Speaker 1

So that was probably the main change we did as Paul said in fall I mean, like kind of late summer actually when we started And it's really paying good dividends. So I think that's the main driver behind it.

Speaker 2

Yes. And then we're always tinkering, if you will, for lack of a better term on our payment processing infrastructure and Working to optimize the passive losses that we get from credit cards on file being unsuccessfully charged particularly with annual members. So That's kind of the bread and butter of what we focus on with our existing member base because losing those people isn't an active cancellation. That's really just a credit card going And so we're starting to make improvements on that line as well. And when you think back to what I said about what our composition of Monthly versus annual members is every percentage point improvement we can make on those passive losses is going to compound as we increase the volume of annual memberships.

Speaker 1

So

Speaker 4

Okay, great. Paul, a question for you. The severance costs, were they Expense in the quarter or is that spread over time?

Speaker 2

It's spread over time. The way that they're accounted for, basically they have to continue to abide by the rules of the agreement. And so we hold the payments back and then pay them, so we didn't do an accrual. But in the given the fact that the majority of these were contractors and they just needed time to Wind down on their notice periods with their underlying contracts is not so much severance as it is just a timing artifact of when we let people know And then how those contracts wound down?

Speaker 1

Yes. Some of the contractors we work through companies, especially the outside of the U. S, When we have a commitment, if we have to give them notice before we can terminate. I mean, if we give them so we have committed to end of the contract. Not the end of the contract, but it is notice period.

Speaker 1

So we have to pay them through the notice period.

Speaker 4

Okay. And maybe the last Question on any incremental color on the Gaia marketplace in terms of are you getting a sense for The service providers, how they're responding? How they're gearing up for that? Any I'm wondering if you have any color around that?

Speaker 1

I think there would be more question for Q1. We just finished like a week ago our technology. So Be glad that that was done on time because we kind of really want to be done by in April. So it's basically it's working. We have it Effectively live, but we didn't start to select the product.

Speaker 1

If you go on that side, you have basically just for right now just Gaia branded merchandise and stuff. So we have something working and tested, but I cannot really say on the providers yet. But it's kind of definitely challenge. I kind of See that very positive. And it's just another part is I kind of see that a lot of things would actually happen from the cost Our attention and all that stuff started to get positive.

Speaker 1

So I feel very good about our company.

Speaker 4

Great. Well, nice to see the inflection point in the member counts. That does it for me guys. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Thanks. And Eric, at this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Risa Avi for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Well, thank you everyone for joining, and we look forward to

Operator

And this concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.