NASDAQ:DIBS 1stdibs.Com Q1 2023 Earnings Report $2.50 +0.02 (+0.60%) As of 01:33 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast 1stdibs.Com EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.21Consensus EPS -$0.24Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/A1stdibs.Com Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$22.18 millionExpected Revenue$21.60 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$580.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/A1stdibs.Com Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/10/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, May 10, 2023Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming Earnings1stdibs.Com's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 14, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 9, 2025 at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by 1stdibs.Com Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 10, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the 1stdibs.com First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:28I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kevin Labuzz, ahead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Good morning, And welcome to FirstDib's earnings call for the quarter ended March 31, 2023. I'm Kevin Labuzz, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Joining me today are Chief Executive Officer, David Rosenblatt and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Energina. David will provide an update on our business, including our strategy and growth opportunities, and Tom will review our Q1 financial results and Second Quarter Outlook. This call will be available via webcast on our Investor Relations website at investors. Speaker 100:01:14Firstdibs.com. Before we begin, please keep in mind that our remarks include forward looking statements, including, but not limited to, statements regarding guidance and future financial performance, market demand, Growth prospects, business plans, strategic initiatives, evaluation of alternatives, business and economic trends, including e commerce growth rates and our potential responses to them international opportunities and competitive position. Our actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in these forward looking statements as a result of risks and uncertainties, including those described in our SEC filings. Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on our beliefs and assumptions as of today, and we disclaim any obligation to update them except to the extent required by law. Additionally, during the call, we will present GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:02:14A reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release, which you can find on our Investor Relations website, along with the replay of this call. Lastly, please note that all growth comparisons are on a year over year basis unless otherwise noted. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, David Rosenblatt. David? Speaker 200:02:36Thanks, Kevin. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. We delivered 1st quarter GMV and revenue at the midpoint of guidance and EBITDA margins at the high end of guidance, while continuing to make progress against our long term objectives. Headwinds in the luxury home goods market exacerbated by comping against a record GMV quarter, resulted in a disappointing first quarter growth rate. We are working to reaccelerate growth, but we believe it will likely take some time before we see significant improvements. Speaker 200:03:12Despite these headwinds, supply growth and traffic growth continued, and we made progress on our strategic initiatives. Over the past few quarters, we've taken actions to reduce our expenses and improve our efficiency. Our work here isn't finished. Because our growth outlook today is below what we anticipated at the start of the year, we are evaluating additional steps to align our expenses with We're managing through this challenging period to emerge with more growth vectors and improved cost structure in a stronger competitive position. Digging into the quarter, continued conversion headwinds and lower AOV drove GMV declines. Speaker 200:03:59Although luxury home goods demand was subdued, marketplace supply remains robust with record seller acquisition, Double digit listings growth and near record low churn. Our annual seller survey indicates the 1st dibs is from our influx of essential sellers in 2022, modestly boosting take rates. We're also pleased with continued traffic growth. Our organic traffic mix increased to nearly 75% of total, up several percentage points due to continued SEO strength and pulling back on performance marketing. This is encouraging because more supply and more organic traffic are barometers of marketplace health. Speaker 200:04:53We are also pleased to see jewelry continue to perform well with double digit order growth highlighting the benefits of operating across multiple verticals. Though not yet large enough to offset macro softness, our strategic initiatives continue gaining traction. In the Q1, we saw a record number of auction orders and record GMV from our French and German marketplaces. Given our strong international supply position, scalable tech platform and encouraging international results to date, We plan to enter Italy and Spain later in 2023. Moving to operations, Our goal is to stabilize and then reaccelerate GMV growth. Speaker 200:05:38Improving conversion, particularly for new buyers, is our largest lever and top priority. To accomplish this, we are focused on 4 distinct tracks pricing, personalization, narrowing the conversion gap between U. S. And European customers and increasing app usage. Of these, we see the largest opportunity in pricing. Speaker 200:06:02Unlike an automobile or a smartphone, There is not always a clear market price for rare and unique items. Indeed, our user research suggests That the primary obstacles for new buyers to convert are their perception of price and a lack of pricing context. For example, is paying $3,700 for vintage Van Cleef and Arpels Alhambra ring a good deal or not? Furthermore, in this market, buyer sensitivity to price is elevated. Our strategy is to leverage our decade plus The proprietary transactional data to provide buyers and sellers more pricing transparency and advice. Speaker 200:06:45We are doing this in 3 ways. 1st, by giving buyers richer pricing insights second, by offering sellers more guidance on competitive pricing strategies and lastly, by boosting the visibility of listings representing compelling value. For buyers, We launched new discovery experiences called shops. Shops are dynamically generated pages that algorithmically aggregate our most performance supply. Historically, listings in collections have seen higher engagement and sell through versus non collection items. Speaker 200:07:21While it's early, We are seeing positive results. For example, in December, we introduced the Design Value Shop, which highlights well priced items. This collection generated over $3,000,000 of GMV in March, despite representing less than 2% of overall listings. Data points like this increase our confidence in our pricing hypothesis. Shoppes reward sellers who price their items competitively and regularly add items to the marketplace. Speaker 200:07:54These behaviors drive seller success and we'll continue to encourage them. They also make it easier for buyers to discover great products. In addition to design values, we launched most saved items in February and new arrivals in April with more planned in the coming months. We also introduced several pricing related features for sellers. For example, we added pricing guidance to item upload in early March. Speaker 200:08:24This leverages historical sales data to provide pricing recommendation when sellers create a new listing. Throughout 2023, we will increase coverage and proactively share insights with sellers. Additionally, pricing guidance has been incorporated into auction's listings. While it's still early, We are also exploring a number of different AI applications that could help to increase conversion and drive savings. These areas include pricing guidance, search and browse personalization, SEO content creation and reducing manual workloads. Speaker 200:09:03We are also making progress on our strategic initiatives. Localized marketplaces in France and Germany posted strong traffic growth, translating into record GMV. Sessions from German and French IP addresses grew over 300%. Furthermore, SEO traffic continued growing over 2 20% in both markets. Orders from German and French IPs grew 20% year over year, while orders on our localized marketplace grew over 10% sequentially. Speaker 200:09:37To foster the growth of our international business, our product team continues working on features to drive supply and demand. In the Q2, we will roll out localized seller tools in Italian. A pilot of the program is already underway. Our objective is to accelerate the growth of highly sought after Italian supply. Additionally, based on the encouraging results of our French and German sites, we plan to launch localized marketplaces in Italian and Spanish by the end of the Q3. Speaker 200:10:11Relative to our initial launches, these markets will be faster and cheaper as we apply our learnings and leverage upfront infrastructure work from 2022. For example, It took about 7 months to launch French and German sites. We expect that it will take about 3 months for Italian and Spanish despite having a smaller team. We're also anticipating meaningfully lower translation costs compared to France and Germany due to more efficient machine translation models and renegotiated rates. Auctions continues to deliver on our priorities of buyer activation, order growth and higher sell through. Speaker 200:10:53Orders hit a record in the quarter, growing approximately 10% sequentially and accounting for over 6% of the total. During the quarter, our product development efforts focused on demand generation and refining item level pricing recommendations. We expect these to help drive page views and bids. On the supply side, our strategy is evolving to focus on a narrower set of the most performance supply, like specific categories of art and jewelry. Additionally, in January, we also ran our first no reserve auction, which had the highest sell through of any of our monthly curations. Speaker 200:11:37Turning to supply, seller and listings growth remained robust. We ended the quarter with over 8,100 seller accounts, up nearly 50%, while seller churn remains near record lows. Additionally, Listings grew 20 percent to over 1,600,000 items. While demand remains soft, we believe our supply growth Signals growing relevance to our end markets. Indeed, our recent seller survey indicated that First Dibs is the top sales channel for our sellers after their showrooms. Speaker 200:12:13Furthermore, for legacy sellers, defined here as those joining the marketplace before 2022, First dibs is typically the primary sales channel. Our goal is to aggregate the world's most beautiful items regardless of where they're located, while maintaining our high curatorial standards. Because we're a marketplace of 1 of a kind items, breadth and selection matters. Growing supply improves marketplace liquidity, drives traffic and deepens search results, creating new opportunities to transact. In 2022, we introduced our Essential Seller Plan, a subscription free peer with higher commissions, spurring a strong year of seller acquisition and helping to reduce churn. Speaker 200:13:02In 2023, we are focused on making this influx of new sellers Successful in part by growing listing volumes and launching new data driven seller tools like pricing recommendations. To this end, in early March, we launched the next evolution of this program, introducing minimum inventory posting requirements for new essential We know that sellers who post more, sell more, and our goal with inventory minimums is to encourage engagement and drive sales. Before I conclude, I'd like to take a minute to welcome Ryan Beauchamp, our new Chief Product Officer. Ryan joined First Dibs in March following a decade at Google, where he most recently led the product management organization for Google Ads core experiences. Prior to that, Ryan oversaw business development and strategy for Google Shopping and before that launched Groupon Goods. Speaker 200:13:59He brings a strong understanding of online business models and monetization strategies. We entered 2023 facing headwinds from subdued demand for luxury home goods, but continued gains in traffic, seller acquisition and supply growth, as well as performance in out of home categories like jewelry give us confidence that we remain as important as ever to our buyers and sellers. Our goal remains to be leaner and have more growth drivers when demand recovers. I will now turn it over to Tom to review our Q1 financial results and 2nd quarter outlook. Speaker 300:14:39Thanks, David. We delivered 1st quarter GMV and revenue at the midpoint of guidance and adjusted EBITDA margins at the high end of guidance. GMV was $97,100,000 down 17% due to the soft demand for luxury home goods. As a reminder, we're lapping record high GMV from a year ago. Conversion remained a headwind, particularly for new buyers, more than offsetting continued traffic growth. Speaker 300:15:04In addition, the mix shift to orders under $1,000 that we saw in the 4th quarter continued. These orders accounted for 46% of total orders in the Q1, up from 42% a year ago. This trend is partially explained by auctions, Which has a lower AOV, but it holds true even when excluding options. We believe this reflects a more cautious consumer amid macroeconomic uncertainty and some trading down. Consumer and Trade GMV declined at similar rates, a departure from the past 7 quarters where trade outperformed. Speaker 300:15:37As the luxury housing market has remained volatile, we've observed that trade projects are taking longer to complete and that end buyers are becoming more price sensitive. We've also seen instances of clients opting to spread out spending by planning for multiple smaller installations as opposed to one larger project. Once again, jewelry showed the best relative performance. Jewelry orders grew 12% year over year. In contrast, demand for at home categories like art, vintage and antique furniture, and new and custom furniture, which account for the bulk of our GMV remains soft. Speaker 300:16:15We ended the quarter with approximately 66,400 active buyers, down 7%. We expect this metric will remain choppy near term as we manage through a period of soft luxury home good demand. On the supply side of the marketplace, we closed the quarter with over 8,100 seller accounts, up nearly 50%. Additionally, There are now over 1,600,000 listings on the marketplace, up 20%. While continued supply growth sets us up for long term success, The near term demand outlook for durables and luxury home goods is challenging. Speaker 300:16:48Accordingly, we remain focused on driving efficiency and improving productivity. While operating expenses were down 2% and headcount was down 16%, our work here isn't finished. Because demand isn't evolving the way we expected At the beginning of the year, we're evaluating further cost reductions. Turning to the P and L, net revenue was $22,200,000 down 17%. On a pro form a basis, net revenue was down approximately 14% when adjusted for the sale of Design Manager in June 2022. Speaker 300:17:22Transaction revenue, which is tied directly to GMV, was approximately 70% of revenue with subscriptions making up most of the remainder. Take rates improved modestly due in part to growing GMV contribution from our essential sellers, which carry a higher commission rate. Gross profit was $14,900,000 down 21%. Gross profit margins were 67%, down from 71% a year ago. Gross margins were negatively impacted by approximately $500,000 in amortization expense due to the acceleration of internal use software amortization related to our NFT platform, which we discontinued supporting in the quarter. Speaker 300:18:02Excluding this one time charge, gross margins would have been approximately 69%. Sales and marketing expenses were $9,800,000 down 17%, driven primarily by lower performance marketing spend. Consistent with the recent quarters, we pulled back on performance marketing and increased our efficiency thresholds to better align expenses with demand. Sales and marketing as a percentage of revenue was 44%, flat versus a year ago. Technology development expenses were $5,800,000 up 1% due to increased stock based compensation, partially offset by lower translation costs and lower salaries and benefits. Speaker 300:18:43As a percentage of revenue, Technology development was 26%, up from 22%. General and administrative expenses were $8,100,000 up 26%, primarily driven by increases in legal and professional service fees related to our strategic alternative expenses and stock based compensation. Excluding the approximately $900,000 in strategic alternative expenses, General and administrative expenses were up approximately 12% year over year. As a percentage of revenue, general and administrative expenses 37%, up from 24%. Lastly, provision for transaction losses were $1,400,000 6% of revenue, flat year over year. Speaker 300:19:27Adjusted EBITDA loss was $5,300,000 compared to a loss of $4,700,000 last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was a loss of 24% versus a loss of 18% last year. This year over year change was driven primarily by negative operating leverage from lower revenue. Moving on to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with a strong cash, cash equivalents and short term investments position of $150,500,000 Additionally, interest income increased to approximately $1,500,000 up from roughly $50,000 a year ago. Speaker 300:20:02Turning to the outlook. Our guidance reflects our quarter to date results and our forecast for the remainder of the period. We forecast 2nd quarter GMV of $85,000,000 to $92,000,000 down 19% to 12%. Net revenue of $20,100,000 to $21,300,000 down 18% to 13% and adjusted EBITDA margin loss of 34% to 28%, primarily driven by lower revenue resulting in negative operating leverage. Our GMV guidance reflects a number of converging factors, including shifting consumer behavior, ongoing economic uncertainty, continued conversion headwinds and lower average order values. Speaker 300:20:46Turning to adjusted EBITDA margins, guidance reflects the fact that lower revenue is driving substantial majority of the sequential decrease in EBITDA margins and a full quarter of annual merit increases. To close, we're in a period with limited visibility. While comps ease moving throughout the year, the macroeconomic environment remains difficult to handicap. Given recent softer than anticipated demand, We will continue realigning our expenses. When demand rebounds, our goal is to have more growth drivers and improved cost structure and a stronger competitive position. Speaker 300:21:20Thank you for your time. I'll now turn the call over to the operator to take your questions. Operator00:21:27Thank you. Speaker 400:21:48Our first question comes from Mark Mahaney with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Speaker 500:21:54Okay, thanks. Two questions. If I just look at the numbers that you're guiding to for the June quarter, maybe at the optimistic end of the range, it implies that the year over year trends are the Same or maybe even a little bit better. Is there anything that you've seen quarter to date that suggests that, sort of stabilization or an improvement And end market demand? Speaker 200:22:20Hey, Mark, it's David. I mean, listen, I think overall, we're continuing to See both quarter to date and also in the Q1 essentially a continuation of the same kind of underlying drivers That we have seen before, right, positive and negative. So on the positive side, traffic strong, supply our supply position is great, retention is as good as it's ever been. Sub fees actually for the Q1 in the Q1 were flat sequentially for the first time in 3 quarters. And our strategic initiatives continue to make progress both auctions and international. Speaker 200:22:56And on the downside, we saw a Further deceleration of AOV that hasn't changed. And then similarly, the conversion rate while improving While sort of improving in the sense that it's not declining as fast and that rate of deceleration has improved, It is still meaningfully negative and the biggest drag on performance. So overall, I'd say not a fundamental change in any direction. Speaker 500:23:25And then the second question is, can you tell to what extent this is what you're looking at these demand trends, These are probably very representative of what's happening in the market. Is there any particular reason to think that you're versus the category that you're underperforming or outperforming? Speaker 200:23:44No, not at all. I mean that is actually how based on the data that we've seen, That's our assessment as well, both in terms of our comps and also just common sensically. So much of our business, not all of it, but so much of it is driven by Luxury Real Estate and that's obviously under pressure. The meaningful component of our business that's not really driven by Luxury Real Estate Jewelry is performing pretty well. I mean orders were up in the Q1 by double digits. Speaker 200:24:13But again, that's Only the minority of our business today. The majority is still driven by the macros, and those macros are producing an impact for us that we think is consistent with the market As a whole. Speaker 500:24:26Okay. Thank you very much, David. Operator00:24:34One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Trevor Young with Barclays. Your line is open. Speaker 400:24:45Great, thanks. First one, just Results on the quarter, the prior few quarters you'd come in atorabovethehighendof GMV guide, but this quarter coming in right down the fairway, Even given that guide was given more or less 2 thirds of the way through the quarter, can you just talk a little bit about the cadence throughout the quarter month on month? And did things kind of deteriorate in March around some of the banking turmoil and has that persisted into April? And then second one for Tom, just on the gross margin, Appreciate the commentary around that amortization charge. Just to clarify, that's a one time charge. Speaker 400:25:19And then is that 69% or 70% Range a reasonable bogey going forward? Speaker 200:25:27Yes. This is David. I mean, we didn't see relative to the overall performance of the For the quarter, I mean, there's always variability month to month. We didn't see anything that was, I'd say, material within the quarter. In terms of the impact of the banking situation, I mean, look, it's not it wasn't positive. Speaker 200:25:47It's very hard to quantify The exact impact, and I guess I would just leave it at that. I don't know that we can kind of fairly attribute any change in performance to that Specifically. Speaker 300:26:00On the gross margin side, yes, so you're correct. The discontinue of the NFT platform and the where we recognized about $500,000 in accelerated internal use software did have a 2% impact on gross margins for the quarter. And yes, I think you can expect that we'll revert back to more normalized historic trends in gross margins going forward. It is a one time item. Speaker 400:26:30Great. Thanks. And just one quick follow-up on the strategic alternative costs realized in the quarter. Should we interpret that to mean that the strategic review with Allen Co. Is largely completed at this point? Speaker 200:26:45We really can't. I can't offer any commentary on that. I mean, it's active and underway. But beyond saying that we're committed to evaluating Every possible alternative both in terms of buy side M and A, sell side M and A and working on our balance sheet To improve the shareholder value of the company, there isn't much I can say. Speaker 400:27:06Okay. Thanks, David. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:27:28We have a question from Nick Jones with JMP Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:33Great. Thanks for taking the questions. 2 if I can. The first one on AOV, I think I might have this right. It did kind of accelerate the declines year over year, but sequentially it actually increased. Speaker 600:27:46Does that indicate maybe these are the right levels for AOV From here as we think about the rest of the year in 2Q? Speaker 200:27:59Hey. Yes, I mean, so AOV in the Q1 was down 8% year over year, which was an acceleration versus Q4 of Q4 is down 6%. What we're seeing is a decline in AOV across all price tiers, which does suggest that it's Primarily a macro phenomenon. In addition to that, the growing share of auctions, auctions is about 6% of orders in Q1 And grew on an order basis sequentially, roughly a little bit more than 10%. That does contribute to it. Speaker 200:28:31Auctions are a value is a value format And has a lower AOV than the rest of the marketplace. But I think primarily it as I said, it is a market phenomenon. Speaker 600:28:47Great. Thanks. And then I guess, as you continue to add supply and listings, but demand remains Trained, is there any evidence that you're potentially diluting some of the stronger performing sellers as you Add more supply to the platform, giving what demand there is more options? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:06No, we haven't seen that. Actually, retention is As high as it's ever been in the history of the company. And that's ultimately the most important metric for the satisfaction of sellers. We so no, we haven't seen that. I think at the end of the day, what drives conversion More than anything else is the perception of value, fair value. Speaker 200:29:32And that's why it's important for us to continue to make progress Not just on our new auction platform, but also we've got a whole range of efforts around helping sellers price competitively Relative to market clearing prices on one hand and also arming sellers with better historical transactional data with which to negotiate. And what we see is that when that results in market based pricing, the conversion rate is very strong. So for example, we added a Collection, which we call design values, which specifically highlights well priced listings based on historical transactions for comparable items. That collection generated over $3,000,000 in GMV in March, despite the fact that the items represented only 2% of our Total supply. So that's where a lot of our energy is increasingly is around the communication of value as it relates to pricing. Speaker 600:30:34Great. Thank you for taking the questions. Operator00:30:47We have a question from Ralph Schackart from William Blair. Your line is open. Speaker 400:30:53Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. You talked about pricing being the biggest lever, particularly with the tough macro and providing more transparency and then providing more to the buyers On that side as well as sellers on better pricing tools and then maybe you mentioned boosting value listings. Maybe Sort of talk about is this a newer initiative continuation of something you've been working on? And then just any more color you could share that would be great. Speaker 400:31:18And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:31:21Yes. So pricing is something just to sort of start with first principles. Based on consumer research, Extensive consumer research that we've done and not surprisingly price both the belief that an item is too expensive And also importantly, an inability to evaluate the list price given that these are one of a kind items Is the biggest obstacle to conversion, especially among new buyers who aren't as familiar with the ability that we offer to negotiate. So pricing has been a focus for, I don't know, a year and a half or so. I think kind of our first initial Offering to address that was auctions and auctions I think remains an important part of the story going forward. Speaker 200:32:09What's changing now is that we're Beginning to leverage the historical transactional data that uniquely we have in this market To help to both help buyers negotiate better pricing by showing them historical item pricing or transactional pricing for comparable items on one hand and using that same data to help sellers price more effectively. These are both things that we had never done before, and they're new as of we began this we began to commercialize it probably about 2 quarters ago. And again, as I mentioned in the example of the design values collection, where we're able to scale that, it has a meaningful and quick impact on GMV. I think that's true in all markets. But of course, as you point out, it's especially true in a weak macro environment like the one we're in. Speaker 400:33:04Great. Thanks. And then just you had mentioned trade projects taking a little bit longer to complete and some Clients spreading that out. Is that something new in the quarter? Or is this something that's continued or acceleration of that trend? Speaker 400:33:17Anything you could add there on trade would be great. Thank you. Speaker 200:33:20Yes. I mean, certainly in a GMV sense, it's new. So over the last 2 years, as you know, trade has outperformed consumer. That changed in the Q1 where both trade and consumer had similar growth rates and we expect that consumer will grow faster than trade over the coming quarters. And I mean, I think that's again for a very straightforward reason. Speaker 200:33:42Trade is a proxy on the state of the luxury The luxury real estate residential market and that state is not great right now. So that's reflected in trade purchasing. Operator00:34:06One moment. Our next question comes from Curtis Nagle with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 700:34:17Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just I guess a quick update on, do you have any attributable to auctions in the international? I know You had mentioned that orders, I think you said about 6%. But in terms of how those two new categories translate to GMV, Where is it now? Speaker 700:34:38Where should we expect that to be by end of the year? It feels like it's around low single digits combined, but any color on that would be very helpful. Speaker 200:34:48Yes. So we don't break out the percentage of GMV that's attributable to both of those initiatives. What I can say is We're happy with where both of them are not satisfied, but happy. So on auctions, like I said, the primary driver on auctions is Conversion, specifically new buyer conversion. And there we're seeing a positive impact. Speaker 200:35:11As I mentioned, order growth sequentially is up over 11%. GMV from auctions was down sequentially because that order growth was offset By AOV declines. Again, those AOV declines, given the fact that auctions is By definition, a value product is something that we anticipated that weakness in AOV. Of course, over time, we're investing this to grow GMV, and we expect that order volume will offset those AOV declines. International similarly, we're pretty happy with where the progress to date. Speaker 200:35:46So as you may remember, we launched our first two non English language markets in France and Germany in the summer last year. In Q1, we had organic traffic growth of over 200% year over year and like I mentioned double digit order growth. Based on the successful experience there, we're going to launch Our next 2 largest international markets, which are Italy and Spain, we anticipate doing that before the end of the third quarter. And we're hopeful that we'll see similar results there as well. We have yet to put paid behind these markets in a major way. Speaker 200:36:25But again, we're very happy with the organic progress that we've seen to date. Speaker 700:36:33Okay, great. And then just a quick modeling question, just how to think about GMV dollars for 2Q and The rest of the year and presumably the guidance for EBITDA does not include any additional cuts. Is that correct? Speaker 300:36:52Hey, this is Tom. So on the GMV side, we gave the guidance for Q1. We don't really guide to full year. On the expense side of things, the EBITDA does not anticipate Any major cost actions in Q2, again, we did talk about Adjusting our expense structure to reflect our current demand And we are looking at all items on the expense side to adjust for that across the board. But right now, our guidance does not anticipate large changes to our expense structure in Q2. Speaker 700:37:43Okay. Thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. Operator00:37:51Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference Call1stdibs.Com Q1 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) 1stdibs.Com Earnings Headlines1stDibs Announces the 1stDibs 50 for 2025April 28, 2025 | businesswire.comIs 1stdibs.com, Inc. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the 1stdibs.com First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:28I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kevin Labuzz, ahead of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Good morning, And welcome to FirstDib's earnings call for the quarter ended March 31, 2023. I'm Kevin Labuzz, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Joining me today are Chief Executive Officer, David Rosenblatt and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Energina. David will provide an update on our business, including our strategy and growth opportunities, and Tom will review our Q1 financial results and Second Quarter Outlook. This call will be available via webcast on our Investor Relations website at investors. Speaker 100:01:14Firstdibs.com. Before we begin, please keep in mind that our remarks include forward looking statements, including, but not limited to, statements regarding guidance and future financial performance, market demand, Growth prospects, business plans, strategic initiatives, evaluation of alternatives, business and economic trends, including e commerce growth rates and our potential responses to them international opportunities and competitive position. Our actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in these forward looking statements as a result of risks and uncertainties, including those described in our SEC filings. Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on our beliefs and assumptions as of today, and we disclaim any obligation to update them except to the extent required by law. Additionally, during the call, we will present GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:02:14A reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release, which you can find on our Investor Relations website, along with the replay of this call. Lastly, please note that all growth comparisons are on a year over year basis unless otherwise noted. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, David Rosenblatt. David? Speaker 200:02:36Thanks, Kevin. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. We delivered 1st quarter GMV and revenue at the midpoint of guidance and EBITDA margins at the high end of guidance, while continuing to make progress against our long term objectives. Headwinds in the luxury home goods market exacerbated by comping against a record GMV quarter, resulted in a disappointing first quarter growth rate. We are working to reaccelerate growth, but we believe it will likely take some time before we see significant improvements. Speaker 200:03:12Despite these headwinds, supply growth and traffic growth continued, and we made progress on our strategic initiatives. Over the past few quarters, we've taken actions to reduce our expenses and improve our efficiency. Our work here isn't finished. Because our growth outlook today is below what we anticipated at the start of the year, we are evaluating additional steps to align our expenses with We're managing through this challenging period to emerge with more growth vectors and improved cost structure in a stronger competitive position. Digging into the quarter, continued conversion headwinds and lower AOV drove GMV declines. Speaker 200:03:59Although luxury home goods demand was subdued, marketplace supply remains robust with record seller acquisition, Double digit listings growth and near record low churn. Our annual seller survey indicates the 1st dibs is from our influx of essential sellers in 2022, modestly boosting take rates. We're also pleased with continued traffic growth. Our organic traffic mix increased to nearly 75% of total, up several percentage points due to continued SEO strength and pulling back on performance marketing. This is encouraging because more supply and more organic traffic are barometers of marketplace health. Speaker 200:04:53We are also pleased to see jewelry continue to perform well with double digit order growth highlighting the benefits of operating across multiple verticals. Though not yet large enough to offset macro softness, our strategic initiatives continue gaining traction. In the Q1, we saw a record number of auction orders and record GMV from our French and German marketplaces. Given our strong international supply position, scalable tech platform and encouraging international results to date, We plan to enter Italy and Spain later in 2023. Moving to operations, Our goal is to stabilize and then reaccelerate GMV growth. Speaker 200:05:38Improving conversion, particularly for new buyers, is our largest lever and top priority. To accomplish this, we are focused on 4 distinct tracks pricing, personalization, narrowing the conversion gap between U. S. And European customers and increasing app usage. Of these, we see the largest opportunity in pricing. Speaker 200:06:02Unlike an automobile or a smartphone, There is not always a clear market price for rare and unique items. Indeed, our user research suggests That the primary obstacles for new buyers to convert are their perception of price and a lack of pricing context. For example, is paying $3,700 for vintage Van Cleef and Arpels Alhambra ring a good deal or not? Furthermore, in this market, buyer sensitivity to price is elevated. Our strategy is to leverage our decade plus The proprietary transactional data to provide buyers and sellers more pricing transparency and advice. Speaker 200:06:45We are doing this in 3 ways. 1st, by giving buyers richer pricing insights second, by offering sellers more guidance on competitive pricing strategies and lastly, by boosting the visibility of listings representing compelling value. For buyers, We launched new discovery experiences called shops. Shops are dynamically generated pages that algorithmically aggregate our most performance supply. Historically, listings in collections have seen higher engagement and sell through versus non collection items. Speaker 200:07:21While it's early, We are seeing positive results. For example, in December, we introduced the Design Value Shop, which highlights well priced items. This collection generated over $3,000,000 of GMV in March, despite representing less than 2% of overall listings. Data points like this increase our confidence in our pricing hypothesis. Shoppes reward sellers who price their items competitively and regularly add items to the marketplace. Speaker 200:07:54These behaviors drive seller success and we'll continue to encourage them. They also make it easier for buyers to discover great products. In addition to design values, we launched most saved items in February and new arrivals in April with more planned in the coming months. We also introduced several pricing related features for sellers. For example, we added pricing guidance to item upload in early March. Speaker 200:08:24This leverages historical sales data to provide pricing recommendation when sellers create a new listing. Throughout 2023, we will increase coverage and proactively share insights with sellers. Additionally, pricing guidance has been incorporated into auction's listings. While it's still early, We are also exploring a number of different AI applications that could help to increase conversion and drive savings. These areas include pricing guidance, search and browse personalization, SEO content creation and reducing manual workloads. Speaker 200:09:03We are also making progress on our strategic initiatives. Localized marketplaces in France and Germany posted strong traffic growth, translating into record GMV. Sessions from German and French IP addresses grew over 300%. Furthermore, SEO traffic continued growing over 2 20% in both markets. Orders from German and French IPs grew 20% year over year, while orders on our localized marketplace grew over 10% sequentially. Speaker 200:09:37To foster the growth of our international business, our product team continues working on features to drive supply and demand. In the Q2, we will roll out localized seller tools in Italian. A pilot of the program is already underway. Our objective is to accelerate the growth of highly sought after Italian supply. Additionally, based on the encouraging results of our French and German sites, we plan to launch localized marketplaces in Italian and Spanish by the end of the Q3. Speaker 200:10:11Relative to our initial launches, these markets will be faster and cheaper as we apply our learnings and leverage upfront infrastructure work from 2022. For example, It took about 7 months to launch French and German sites. We expect that it will take about 3 months for Italian and Spanish despite having a smaller team. We're also anticipating meaningfully lower translation costs compared to France and Germany due to more efficient machine translation models and renegotiated rates. Auctions continues to deliver on our priorities of buyer activation, order growth and higher sell through. Speaker 200:10:53Orders hit a record in the quarter, growing approximately 10% sequentially and accounting for over 6% of the total. During the quarter, our product development efforts focused on demand generation and refining item level pricing recommendations. We expect these to help drive page views and bids. On the supply side, our strategy is evolving to focus on a narrower set of the most performance supply, like specific categories of art and jewelry. Additionally, in January, we also ran our first no reserve auction, which had the highest sell through of any of our monthly curations. Speaker 200:11:37Turning to supply, seller and listings growth remained robust. We ended the quarter with over 8,100 seller accounts, up nearly 50%, while seller churn remains near record lows. Additionally, Listings grew 20 percent to over 1,600,000 items. While demand remains soft, we believe our supply growth Signals growing relevance to our end markets. Indeed, our recent seller survey indicated that First Dibs is the top sales channel for our sellers after their showrooms. Speaker 200:12:13Furthermore, for legacy sellers, defined here as those joining the marketplace before 2022, First dibs is typically the primary sales channel. Our goal is to aggregate the world's most beautiful items regardless of where they're located, while maintaining our high curatorial standards. Because we're a marketplace of 1 of a kind items, breadth and selection matters. Growing supply improves marketplace liquidity, drives traffic and deepens search results, creating new opportunities to transact. In 2022, we introduced our Essential Seller Plan, a subscription free peer with higher commissions, spurring a strong year of seller acquisition and helping to reduce churn. Speaker 200:13:02In 2023, we are focused on making this influx of new sellers Successful in part by growing listing volumes and launching new data driven seller tools like pricing recommendations. To this end, in early March, we launched the next evolution of this program, introducing minimum inventory posting requirements for new essential We know that sellers who post more, sell more, and our goal with inventory minimums is to encourage engagement and drive sales. Before I conclude, I'd like to take a minute to welcome Ryan Beauchamp, our new Chief Product Officer. Ryan joined First Dibs in March following a decade at Google, where he most recently led the product management organization for Google Ads core experiences. Prior to that, Ryan oversaw business development and strategy for Google Shopping and before that launched Groupon Goods. Speaker 200:13:59He brings a strong understanding of online business models and monetization strategies. We entered 2023 facing headwinds from subdued demand for luxury home goods, but continued gains in traffic, seller acquisition and supply growth, as well as performance in out of home categories like jewelry give us confidence that we remain as important as ever to our buyers and sellers. Our goal remains to be leaner and have more growth drivers when demand recovers. I will now turn it over to Tom to review our Q1 financial results and 2nd quarter outlook. Speaker 300:14:39Thanks, David. We delivered 1st quarter GMV and revenue at the midpoint of guidance and adjusted EBITDA margins at the high end of guidance. GMV was $97,100,000 down 17% due to the soft demand for luxury home goods. As a reminder, we're lapping record high GMV from a year ago. Conversion remained a headwind, particularly for new buyers, more than offsetting continued traffic growth. Speaker 300:15:04In addition, the mix shift to orders under $1,000 that we saw in the 4th quarter continued. These orders accounted for 46% of total orders in the Q1, up from 42% a year ago. This trend is partially explained by auctions, Which has a lower AOV, but it holds true even when excluding options. We believe this reflects a more cautious consumer amid macroeconomic uncertainty and some trading down. Consumer and Trade GMV declined at similar rates, a departure from the past 7 quarters where trade outperformed. Speaker 300:15:37As the luxury housing market has remained volatile, we've observed that trade projects are taking longer to complete and that end buyers are becoming more price sensitive. We've also seen instances of clients opting to spread out spending by planning for multiple smaller installations as opposed to one larger project. Once again, jewelry showed the best relative performance. Jewelry orders grew 12% year over year. In contrast, demand for at home categories like art, vintage and antique furniture, and new and custom furniture, which account for the bulk of our GMV remains soft. Speaker 300:16:15We ended the quarter with approximately 66,400 active buyers, down 7%. We expect this metric will remain choppy near term as we manage through a period of soft luxury home good demand. On the supply side of the marketplace, we closed the quarter with over 8,100 seller accounts, up nearly 50%. Additionally, There are now over 1,600,000 listings on the marketplace, up 20%. While continued supply growth sets us up for long term success, The near term demand outlook for durables and luxury home goods is challenging. Speaker 300:16:48Accordingly, we remain focused on driving efficiency and improving productivity. While operating expenses were down 2% and headcount was down 16%, our work here isn't finished. Because demand isn't evolving the way we expected At the beginning of the year, we're evaluating further cost reductions. Turning to the P and L, net revenue was $22,200,000 down 17%. On a pro form a basis, net revenue was down approximately 14% when adjusted for the sale of Design Manager in June 2022. Speaker 300:17:22Transaction revenue, which is tied directly to GMV, was approximately 70% of revenue with subscriptions making up most of the remainder. Take rates improved modestly due in part to growing GMV contribution from our essential sellers, which carry a higher commission rate. Gross profit was $14,900,000 down 21%. Gross profit margins were 67%, down from 71% a year ago. Gross margins were negatively impacted by approximately $500,000 in amortization expense due to the acceleration of internal use software amortization related to our NFT platform, which we discontinued supporting in the quarter. Speaker 300:18:02Excluding this one time charge, gross margins would have been approximately 69%. Sales and marketing expenses were $9,800,000 down 17%, driven primarily by lower performance marketing spend. Consistent with the recent quarters, we pulled back on performance marketing and increased our efficiency thresholds to better align expenses with demand. Sales and marketing as a percentage of revenue was 44%, flat versus a year ago. Technology development expenses were $5,800,000 up 1% due to increased stock based compensation, partially offset by lower translation costs and lower salaries and benefits. Speaker 300:18:43As a percentage of revenue, Technology development was 26%, up from 22%. General and administrative expenses were $8,100,000 up 26%, primarily driven by increases in legal and professional service fees related to our strategic alternative expenses and stock based compensation. Excluding the approximately $900,000 in strategic alternative expenses, General and administrative expenses were up approximately 12% year over year. As a percentage of revenue, general and administrative expenses 37%, up from 24%. Lastly, provision for transaction losses were $1,400,000 6% of revenue, flat year over year. Speaker 300:19:27Adjusted EBITDA loss was $5,300,000 compared to a loss of $4,700,000 last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was a loss of 24% versus a loss of 18% last year. This year over year change was driven primarily by negative operating leverage from lower revenue. Moving on to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with a strong cash, cash equivalents and short term investments position of $150,500,000 Additionally, interest income increased to approximately $1,500,000 up from roughly $50,000 a year ago. Speaker 300:20:02Turning to the outlook. Our guidance reflects our quarter to date results and our forecast for the remainder of the period. We forecast 2nd quarter GMV of $85,000,000 to $92,000,000 down 19% to 12%. Net revenue of $20,100,000 to $21,300,000 down 18% to 13% and adjusted EBITDA margin loss of 34% to 28%, primarily driven by lower revenue resulting in negative operating leverage. Our GMV guidance reflects a number of converging factors, including shifting consumer behavior, ongoing economic uncertainty, continued conversion headwinds and lower average order values. Speaker 300:20:46Turning to adjusted EBITDA margins, guidance reflects the fact that lower revenue is driving substantial majority of the sequential decrease in EBITDA margins and a full quarter of annual merit increases. To close, we're in a period with limited visibility. While comps ease moving throughout the year, the macroeconomic environment remains difficult to handicap. Given recent softer than anticipated demand, We will continue realigning our expenses. When demand rebounds, our goal is to have more growth drivers and improved cost structure and a stronger competitive position. Speaker 300:21:20Thank you for your time. I'll now turn the call over to the operator to take your questions. Operator00:21:27Thank you. Speaker 400:21:48Our first question comes from Mark Mahaney with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Speaker 500:21:54Okay, thanks. Two questions. If I just look at the numbers that you're guiding to for the June quarter, maybe at the optimistic end of the range, it implies that the year over year trends are the Same or maybe even a little bit better. Is there anything that you've seen quarter to date that suggests that, sort of stabilization or an improvement And end market demand? Speaker 200:22:20Hey, Mark, it's David. I mean, listen, I think overall, we're continuing to See both quarter to date and also in the Q1 essentially a continuation of the same kind of underlying drivers That we have seen before, right, positive and negative. So on the positive side, traffic strong, supply our supply position is great, retention is as good as it's ever been. Sub fees actually for the Q1 in the Q1 were flat sequentially for the first time in 3 quarters. And our strategic initiatives continue to make progress both auctions and international. Speaker 200:22:56And on the downside, we saw a Further deceleration of AOV that hasn't changed. And then similarly, the conversion rate while improving While sort of improving in the sense that it's not declining as fast and that rate of deceleration has improved, It is still meaningfully negative and the biggest drag on performance. So overall, I'd say not a fundamental change in any direction. Speaker 500:23:25And then the second question is, can you tell to what extent this is what you're looking at these demand trends, These are probably very representative of what's happening in the market. Is there any particular reason to think that you're versus the category that you're underperforming or outperforming? Speaker 200:23:44No, not at all. I mean that is actually how based on the data that we've seen, That's our assessment as well, both in terms of our comps and also just common sensically. So much of our business, not all of it, but so much of it is driven by Luxury Real Estate and that's obviously under pressure. The meaningful component of our business that's not really driven by Luxury Real Estate Jewelry is performing pretty well. I mean orders were up in the Q1 by double digits. Speaker 200:24:13But again, that's Only the minority of our business today. The majority is still driven by the macros, and those macros are producing an impact for us that we think is consistent with the market As a whole. Speaker 500:24:26Okay. Thank you very much, David. Operator00:24:34One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Trevor Young with Barclays. Your line is open. Speaker 400:24:45Great, thanks. First one, just Results on the quarter, the prior few quarters you'd come in atorabovethehighendof GMV guide, but this quarter coming in right down the fairway, Even given that guide was given more or less 2 thirds of the way through the quarter, can you just talk a little bit about the cadence throughout the quarter month on month? And did things kind of deteriorate in March around some of the banking turmoil and has that persisted into April? And then second one for Tom, just on the gross margin, Appreciate the commentary around that amortization charge. Just to clarify, that's a one time charge. Speaker 400:25:19And then is that 69% or 70% Range a reasonable bogey going forward? Speaker 200:25:27Yes. This is David. I mean, we didn't see relative to the overall performance of the For the quarter, I mean, there's always variability month to month. We didn't see anything that was, I'd say, material within the quarter. In terms of the impact of the banking situation, I mean, look, it's not it wasn't positive. Speaker 200:25:47It's very hard to quantify The exact impact, and I guess I would just leave it at that. I don't know that we can kind of fairly attribute any change in performance to that Specifically. Speaker 300:26:00On the gross margin side, yes, so you're correct. The discontinue of the NFT platform and the where we recognized about $500,000 in accelerated internal use software did have a 2% impact on gross margins for the quarter. And yes, I think you can expect that we'll revert back to more normalized historic trends in gross margins going forward. It is a one time item. Speaker 400:26:30Great. Thanks. And just one quick follow-up on the strategic alternative costs realized in the quarter. Should we interpret that to mean that the strategic review with Allen Co. Is largely completed at this point? Speaker 200:26:45We really can't. I can't offer any commentary on that. I mean, it's active and underway. But beyond saying that we're committed to evaluating Every possible alternative both in terms of buy side M and A, sell side M and A and working on our balance sheet To improve the shareholder value of the company, there isn't much I can say. Speaker 400:27:06Okay. Thanks, David. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:27:28We have a question from Nick Jones with JMP Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:33Great. Thanks for taking the questions. 2 if I can. The first one on AOV, I think I might have this right. It did kind of accelerate the declines year over year, but sequentially it actually increased. Speaker 600:27:46Does that indicate maybe these are the right levels for AOV From here as we think about the rest of the year in 2Q? Speaker 200:27:59Hey. Yes, I mean, so AOV in the Q1 was down 8% year over year, which was an acceleration versus Q4 of Q4 is down 6%. What we're seeing is a decline in AOV across all price tiers, which does suggest that it's Primarily a macro phenomenon. In addition to that, the growing share of auctions, auctions is about 6% of orders in Q1 And grew on an order basis sequentially, roughly a little bit more than 10%. That does contribute to it. Speaker 200:28:31Auctions are a value is a value format And has a lower AOV than the rest of the marketplace. But I think primarily it as I said, it is a market phenomenon. Speaker 600:28:47Great. Thanks. And then I guess, as you continue to add supply and listings, but demand remains Trained, is there any evidence that you're potentially diluting some of the stronger performing sellers as you Add more supply to the platform, giving what demand there is more options? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:06No, we haven't seen that. Actually, retention is As high as it's ever been in the history of the company. And that's ultimately the most important metric for the satisfaction of sellers. We so no, we haven't seen that. I think at the end of the day, what drives conversion More than anything else is the perception of value, fair value. Speaker 200:29:32And that's why it's important for us to continue to make progress Not just on our new auction platform, but also we've got a whole range of efforts around helping sellers price competitively Relative to market clearing prices on one hand and also arming sellers with better historical transactional data with which to negotiate. And what we see is that when that results in market based pricing, the conversion rate is very strong. So for example, we added a Collection, which we call design values, which specifically highlights well priced listings based on historical transactions for comparable items. That collection generated over $3,000,000 in GMV in March, despite the fact that the items represented only 2% of our Total supply. So that's where a lot of our energy is increasingly is around the communication of value as it relates to pricing. Speaker 600:30:34Great. Thank you for taking the questions. Operator00:30:47We have a question from Ralph Schackart from William Blair. Your line is open. Speaker 400:30:53Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. You talked about pricing being the biggest lever, particularly with the tough macro and providing more transparency and then providing more to the buyers On that side as well as sellers on better pricing tools and then maybe you mentioned boosting value listings. Maybe Sort of talk about is this a newer initiative continuation of something you've been working on? And then just any more color you could share that would be great. Speaker 400:31:18And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:31:21Yes. So pricing is something just to sort of start with first principles. Based on consumer research, Extensive consumer research that we've done and not surprisingly price both the belief that an item is too expensive And also importantly, an inability to evaluate the list price given that these are one of a kind items Is the biggest obstacle to conversion, especially among new buyers who aren't as familiar with the ability that we offer to negotiate. So pricing has been a focus for, I don't know, a year and a half or so. I think kind of our first initial Offering to address that was auctions and auctions I think remains an important part of the story going forward. Speaker 200:32:09What's changing now is that we're Beginning to leverage the historical transactional data that uniquely we have in this market To help to both help buyers negotiate better pricing by showing them historical item pricing or transactional pricing for comparable items on one hand and using that same data to help sellers price more effectively. These are both things that we had never done before, and they're new as of we began this we began to commercialize it probably about 2 quarters ago. And again, as I mentioned in the example of the design values collection, where we're able to scale that, it has a meaningful and quick impact on GMV. I think that's true in all markets. But of course, as you point out, it's especially true in a weak macro environment like the one we're in. Speaker 400:33:04Great. Thanks. And then just you had mentioned trade projects taking a little bit longer to complete and some Clients spreading that out. Is that something new in the quarter? Or is this something that's continued or acceleration of that trend? Speaker 400:33:17Anything you could add there on trade would be great. Thank you. Speaker 200:33:20Yes. I mean, certainly in a GMV sense, it's new. So over the last 2 years, as you know, trade has outperformed consumer. That changed in the Q1 where both trade and consumer had similar growth rates and we expect that consumer will grow faster than trade over the coming quarters. And I mean, I think that's again for a very straightforward reason. Speaker 200:33:42Trade is a proxy on the state of the luxury The luxury real estate residential market and that state is not great right now. So that's reflected in trade purchasing. Operator00:34:06One moment. Our next question comes from Curtis Nagle with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 700:34:17Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just I guess a quick update on, do you have any attributable to auctions in the international? I know You had mentioned that orders, I think you said about 6%. But in terms of how those two new categories translate to GMV, Where is it now? Speaker 700:34:38Where should we expect that to be by end of the year? It feels like it's around low single digits combined, but any color on that would be very helpful. Speaker 200:34:48Yes. So we don't break out the percentage of GMV that's attributable to both of those initiatives. What I can say is We're happy with where both of them are not satisfied, but happy. So on auctions, like I said, the primary driver on auctions is Conversion, specifically new buyer conversion. And there we're seeing a positive impact. Speaker 200:35:11As I mentioned, order growth sequentially is up over 11%. GMV from auctions was down sequentially because that order growth was offset By AOV declines. Again, those AOV declines, given the fact that auctions is By definition, a value product is something that we anticipated that weakness in AOV. Of course, over time, we're investing this to grow GMV, and we expect that order volume will offset those AOV declines. International similarly, we're pretty happy with where the progress to date. Speaker 200:35:46So as you may remember, we launched our first two non English language markets in France and Germany in the summer last year. In Q1, we had organic traffic growth of over 200% year over year and like I mentioned double digit order growth. Based on the successful experience there, we're going to launch Our next 2 largest international markets, which are Italy and Spain, we anticipate doing that before the end of the third quarter. And we're hopeful that we'll see similar results there as well. We have yet to put paid behind these markets in a major way. Speaker 200:36:25But again, we're very happy with the organic progress that we've seen to date. Speaker 700:36:33Okay, great. And then just a quick modeling question, just how to think about GMV dollars for 2Q and The rest of the year and presumably the guidance for EBITDA does not include any additional cuts. Is that correct? Speaker 300:36:52Hey, this is Tom. So on the GMV side, we gave the guidance for Q1. We don't really guide to full year. On the expense side of things, the EBITDA does not anticipate Any major cost actions in Q2, again, we did talk about Adjusting our expense structure to reflect our current demand And we are looking at all items on the expense side to adjust for that across the board. But right now, our guidance does not anticipate large changes to our expense structure in Q2. Speaker 700:37:43Okay. Thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. Operator00:37:51Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by