Everi Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Everi reported 14% revenue growth to $200.5 M, 3% adjusted EBITDA growth to $92.5 M and $37.1 M in free cash flow in Q1 2023.
  • Organic revenues rose 10%, with games up 9% and FinTech up 20%, plus 4% from 2022 acquisitions.
  • The company plans to launch two premium Dynasty cabinets in Q3, expand HHR and BLT offerings, and debut new content at G2E to drive market share.
  • Adjusted EBITDA margin fell to 46% from 51% on mix shifts, higher R&D and acquisition costs, and an anticipated flat-to-modestly-down installed base in Q2–Q3.
  • Everi unveiled a $180 M share repurchase program, prioritizing buybacks with strong free cash flow while remaining opportunistic on tuck-in acquisitions.
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Earnings Conference Call
Everi Q1 2023
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There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Everi Holdings 2023 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Now let me turn the call over to Jennifer Hills, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Let me begin with a reminder that our Safe Harbor disclaimer, which covers today's call and webcast, contains These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those contained in our earnings release today and in other SEC filings, which are posted in the Investors section of our corporate website at evri.com. Because of the potential risks, you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements. We do not intend and assume no to update any forward looking statements, which are made only as of today, May 10, 2023. We will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EPS, Free cash flow and net cash position.

Speaker 1

A description of each of these non GAAP measures and a Reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure can be found in our earnings release and related 8 ks today as well as in the Investors section of our website. This call is being webcast and recorded. A link to the webcast and a replay of Today's call can be found in the Investors section of our website. On our call today are Randy Taylor, Chief Executive Officer, Mark Labbei Chief Financial Officer Kate Lowenhauer Fisher, General Counsel, Dean Ehrlich, Game's Business Leader and Darren Simmons, FinTech Business Leader. I would also Know that even though he's counting the weeks until he just dials into these calls, Bill Funt is also still with us today.

Speaker 1

Now I will turn the call over to Randy.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jennifer. Good morning and thank you all for joining us. The year has gotten off to a solid start with Q1 2023 revenues increasing 14% to 200,500,000 Adjusted EBITDA rising 3 percent to $92,500,000 and free cash flow of $37,100,000 despite the impact of rising interest rates Throughout 2022 and into 2023, these metrics were in line with our expectations. We continue to see solid organic revenue growth Throughout the quarter across both our games and FinTech businesses. Overall, games revenue grew 9% year over year and FinTech revenues rose 20%.

Speaker 2

Our prior investments in R and D drove organic revenue growth of 10% with acquisitions completed in 2022 adding 4% to our revenue growth. While macroeconomic uncertainties still cloud the near to medium term horizon, We remain well positioned for consistent growth due to our investments in internal R and D to develop new gaming content, broaden our bandwidth for the introduction of several new cabinets and add new product enhancements and features across our FinTech portfolio. Additionally, our recent acquisitions have expanded our addressable market, while also enabling us to leverage our existing product development capabilities to scale these products for future growth. In our game segment, revenues from gaming machine sales increased 15% year over year. As expected, we experienced a quarterly sequential decline as some operators opted to delay purchases until the launch Initial shipments began on schedule with the first installation at Yamaha Resort and Casino in California, Quickly followed by several other casinos in April.

Speaker 2

Initial feedback is highly encouraging and we expect sales momentum to continue to build. Even with the often discussed increased competition among our peers, we expect the introduction of our added content and new differentiated cabinets Throughout this year and next will help us maintain our longer term market share growth momentum. Driven by our increased spending for game development and engineering, We expect to dramatically expand our portfolio of cabinets and content on our next generation Dynasty platform. We anticipate the debut of 2 new premium cabinets in the 3rd quarter with several additional new cabinets to be showcased at G2E, including both standard for sale and premium cabinet. In March, we shipped the first EVRI gaming machines on the Exacta Systems platform For historical horseracing to the Boston Billiards Club and Casino in New Hampshire.

Speaker 2

Our IntuitCode acquisition provided us with experienced development talent and an existing base of installed games that helped accelerate our entry into the HHR market. HHR machines are an Exciting opportunity for us to leverage our proven gaming content across a new category for Evertie, one that is rapidly growing and one in which we previously had 0 Ship Share. Within the FinTech segment, the full integration of eCash Holdings continues to progress. Revenues in Australia contributed approximately $4,000,000 in the Q1. Our digital wallet is already in test at one property in Australia.

Speaker 2

While work on integrating anti money laundering, loyalty and mobile capabilities for the Australian gaming market is also moving forward. We expect these enhanced digital features and new products to the Australian market to provide incremental growth in 2024. We also expect to introduce the eCash kiosk into the U. S. Distributed gaming market later this year, which will complement our Our entrance into the BLT market as well as HHR allows us to leverage our compelling player proven gaming content across additional channels that in aggregate represent an estimated 11% to 12% The total installed slot machine base across North America.

Speaker 2

These are significant categories in which we previously had 0 ship share And which will help drive additional growth and incremental ship share as we continue to progress towards our 15% target. Our asset acquisitions of Atlas Gaming and VenueTies have also provided additional opportunities for future growth. We expect to debut our 1st Australian studio developed North American games this fall at G2E. In 2024, we expect to launch A full array of Evertie products into the Australian market, the 2nd largest slot market after the U. S.

Speaker 2

Through our VenueTize platform, we continue to build and expand relationships, including recent enhancements for Churchill Downs Racetrack that enabled an app specifically for the legendary Kentucky Derby. Additional developments and enhancements recently expanded our relationships across the major professional Sports Leagues in North America, such as teams with Major League Baseball, the NBA, the NHL, MLS and CFL, Along with a growing international presence with multiple venue deployments, we believe there is a great opportunity to leverage Venuti's strengths with our cash wallet and loyalty capabilities to provide enhanced and seamless patron engagement at gaming and non gaming sports and entertainment venues. Another early phase growth opportunity is the launch of our unique buy branded on property mobile digital gaming platform, which offers casino operators an all in one mobile gaming experience that includes a digital wallet and loyalty capabilities on players' own devices. We launched Vai at the Indian Gaming Show in late March to a very positive reception As many tribal operators look for opportunities to utilize mobile technology to further their guests' gaming experiences and grow revenue. With Vybe, players can use their mobile device to play Every's Class II and Class III digital games as well as other third party content on premise, including off the casino floor with a GeoFest location or jurisdiction.

Speaker 2

In our digital gaming business, while we continue to expect 2023 to be a relatively quiet year as far as the state by state expansion of legalized iGaming into new jurisdictions, We continue to build out our digital business and offerings. In April, we expanded our real money iGaming offering to multiple operators serving a regulated provincial market in Alberta, Canada. Every Digital's player popular game content is now featured at just over 80 real money online casinos and is also available on more than 40 social casinos worldwide. In addition, we recently received a U. K.

Speaker 2

License and now are working toward a launch in the U. K. By year end. Most recently, last week, we completed the acquisition of the assets of Video King, a leading provider of integrated electronic bingo gaming devices, providing us with an additional digital gaming growth channel. We expect to be able to provide Every's digital game content, Wallet and loyalty products to our Video King customers in the near future, further extending our digital neighborhood.

Speaker 2

This will improve revenue and margin opportunities for our customers and for Every. With our additional digital offerings, we believe there is a longer term opportunity to leverage our sales force and our relationships, particularly with tribal operators to further grow the business. Within our FinTech Digital Neighborhood, our digital wallet remains an area of exciting long term growth. The adoption of our wallet technology is largely progressing as expected, the pace of which is primarily driven by our casino operator customers. We continue to expect that tribal and regional operators will be the early adopters because of their heavier dependence on frequent repeat customers.

Speaker 2

Currently, our single solution digital wallet is installed or pending installation at 43 casinos covering 22 jurisdictions in 17 states. In casinos where we have historical data prior to the implementation of a patrons cash wallet, we have seen an increase in both the number of transactions per month and overall dollars spent by a casino customer. Excluding extremely high value customers, which can distort averages, Transactions for rated players have increased by 1.5 to 2 times their prior activity, While the average amount funded per month has increased between 20% 35% over pre wallet adoption. As you would expect from overall casino demographics, close to 60% of the wallet users are 40 years of age or older and they account for nearly 75% of the overall funds on wallets. While the majority of volume today is driven by repeat Patron usage.

Speaker 2

We continue to see a steady growth of new wallet users every day. You contemplate the growth potential of our digital opportunities, You quickly realize that we have a strongly focused strategy across both our games and FinTech businesses on providing a omni channel presence to casino operators, leveraging our development efforts and our existing product strengths. Given the high number of growth initiatives underway, we expect And we expect to continue to be at or about that level through the remainder of the year. Having significantly Expanded our addressable markets during 2022 and most recently with Video King, we are focusing our near term attention on integrating these acquisitions. As we expect to generate strong free cash flow in successive quarters, we will continue to be on alert for any attractive acquisitions.

Speaker 2

However, we plan to prioritize the majority of our ongoing free cash flow to opportunistically repurchase our shares. To that end, we announced today that our Board approved a new 18 month $180,000,000 share repurchase program It replaces the previous $150,000,000 program, essentially adding approximately $115,000,000 to the remaining $65,000,000 in buyback authority. Before I wrap my prepared remarks, I want to acknowledge that the progress, achievements and future growth of our company is a direct result of our outstanding employees. I want to welcome our new employees from Video King and thank all of our existing employees for their dedication and hard work. They drive our Collaborative culture and are the primary reason for our success.

Speaker 2

We are proud to continue to be recognized as an employer of choice And to be included for a 2nd consecutive year in the Top Workplaces USA 2023 based on independent employee engagement surveys. This is our 16th top workplace honor received over the past 3 years. Now let me turn the call over to Mark, who will provide more insight into our Q1 financials and current outlook for the remainder of the year.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Randy. Our Q1 was another quarter of consistent growth that benefited from our overall portfolio of Diverside products and services. Although the impact of Omicron on patron visitation in early 2022 provided an easier comparison for the Q1, We continued to generate growth throughout the quarter due to our balanced business mix. In this morning's press release, We introduced adjusted earnings per share. This measure provides a supplemental view of our earnings that more closely resemble Normalized operating EPS without unusual or non recurring operating items as well as removing the amortization expense associated with purchase Accounting related intangible assets from our acquisitions.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EPS was $0.43 in the Q1, flat with a year ago. A lower tax provision and a decrease in our diluted shares outstanding, primarily from our share repurchase activity to date, Offset the higher net interest expense due to rising interest rates. On a consolidated basis, We reported year over year revenue growth of 14%, driven by 9% growth in games and 20% growth in FinTech revenues. Our core businesses performed well, delivering 10% organic growth and acquisitions contributed an additional $7,000,000 year over year or 4% to consolidated revenues in the quarter. Our recurring revenues increased 11% And accounted for 74% of the total revenues in the Q1, while one time sales grew 25%.

Speaker 3

The small decline in gross margin percentage was primarily driven by a change in mix as lower margin gaming equipment and FinTech hardware sales Grew more rapidly. Adjusted EBITDA of $92,500,000 was up 3% and as a percentage of revenues Adjusted EBITDA was 46% compared with 51% a year ago. This change primarily reflects the revenue mix shift and the investment in our future, coupled with the impact of acquisitions and higher wages. As we continue to lap the changes in revenue mix and the impact of higher R and D and acquisitions, we would expect adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenue to remain relatively flat in the mid to high 40% range throughout the remainder of this year. Free cash flow generated in the quarter was 37,000,000 compared to $52,000,000 a year ago.

Speaker 3

The decrease primarily reflects an $11,000,000 increase In cash interest from rising interest rates along with increased capital expenditures. As Randy noted, We in the near term expect to focus the majority of our ongoing free cash flow on share repurchases. Within the game segment, total revenues increased 9%, while adjusted EBITDA was $54,000,000 compared with $55,000,000 a year ago. In gaming operations, as expected, the daily win per unit improved on a quarterly sequential basis to $38.37 And was down compared with the prior year quarter. The installed base declined 134 units on a quarterly sequential basis, While growing 5 13 units year over year.

Speaker 3

We expect to experience a short term headwind in installed base growth Ahead on the launch of our 2 new premium lease specific cabinets. We've accelerated our launch plans for these new cabinets and expect to begin showing them to customers later this month and for them to hit slot floors by the end of the Q3. At G2E this year, we will also showcase even more premium cabinets along with a new standard for sale portrait cabinet. We expect these new unique form factors to be commercialized by the first half of twenty twenty four. As a prudent steward of capital, we plan to maintain our disciplined approach to capital spending.

Speaker 3

We will balance the replacement expenditures of our installed base using our FlexFusion and DCX cabinets with the availability of the new cabinets and content. Within the FinTech segment, 1st quarter revenues increased 20% over our prior year, of which 16% was organic growth. This drove 14% increase in adjusted EBITDA to $39,000,000,000 FinTech revenue growth in hardware sales was 34%, benefiting partially from a full quarter of eCash revenues in Australia. Software and other revenues rose 35%, which included the benefit of rolling out our AML software into new customers. Financial Services revenue grew 13%, primarily driven by a 13% increase in transactions.

Speaker 3

Looking at the impact of interest rates on our operating results, I'd like to first remind you that we have $400,000,000 of secured notes due in 2029 with a fixed rate of 5%. This equates to roughly $20,000,000 of annualized expense, which is paid in the 1st and third quarters. Additionally, after prepaying the $6,000,000 of annual required payments on our term loan during the Q1, we now have $586,500,000 of secured term loan outstanding. That debt floats currently at LIBOR plus 2.50 basis points Roughly $45,000,000 to $48,000,000 of annualized interest expense. We also have commercial arrangements To maintain cash at our ATM machines located in certain customer locations.

Speaker 3

This commercial bulk cash arrangement incurs a variable rate Cash usage fee that is based upon the Fed funds target rate. The daily average balance fluctuates throughout the year. As our financial funding services grow, our estimated annualized expense is expected to be in a range of $18,000,000 to $20,000,000 for 2023 compared to $9,000,000 in 2022. At current rates with an end of quarter weighted average borrowing rate of 6.4% And our expectation for strong free cash flow, we remain comfortable with our current level of debt and our current cash interest costs. As of the end of the Q1, our total net leverage was 2.4 times trailing adjusted EBITDA, which is below our target levels.

Speaker 3

Even with our recent Video King acquisition, which we have funded entirely from our cash balances on hand And our expectation for continued share repurchases, we would expect to remain at or below the target throughout 2023. Moving on to our outlook. Historically, while the gaming industry has not been altogether recession proof, it has been relatively resilient, driven in part by the significant aging of the American population. The number of people over the age of 55 in the U. S, which is the prime demographic for gaming, has increased by more than 65% since the year 2000 and is projected to continue to grow both as a percentage of the U.

Speaker 3

S. Population and in absolute numbers by the year 2025. Reflecting the in line first quarter results, Our balanced business and maintaining our conservative outlook on the year, we today reaffirm our annual guidance for 2023, which was provided in March when we reported our 2022 Q4 results. Our expectations for adjusted EBITDA Between $384,000,000 to $396,000,000 and for free cash flow of between $150,000,000 to $160,000,000 are unchanged, And that's inclusive of our Video King acquisition. As you can see from our guidance of 3% to 6% adjusted EBITDA growth, We believe it's prudent and reasonable to plan for some slower growth this year even with the benefit from the launch of new products and our recent acquisition.

Speaker 3

We raised the bottom end of the range for net income, primarily benefiting from a reduction in the expected provision for taxes on a GAAP basis. This change also increased our outlook for adjusted EPS. We now expect annual net income of $92,000,000 to 100,000,000 And adjusted EPS of $1.58 to $1.66 per diluted share. This adjusted EPS is based on the number of diluted shares outstanding at the end of the Q1 and does not reflect the potential reduction from additional buyback activity. And with that, I'll now conclude our prepared remarks and turn the call over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Thank In the interest of time, we ask that you each keep to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of David Katz with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I appreciate it. Can you just give us Some color or insight into and I know you've talked about sort of growth headwinds in a couple of areas, but specifically around the premium installed base. And I guess what has the impact kind of the cadence or rhythm of New product hitting the market or did something miss or get delayed or help us just understand that a little bit better?

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure, David. Thanks for the question. Basically, what we've seen on our legacy premium product, David, we'd always expected some churn, but it's coming in a little bit earlier than we anticipated. So what we've done and we've pivoted quickly and that is, so we've talked about it on the call, the cabinets that In our plan for this year and a couple of those cabinets are really going to be shown at G2E, But Dean and his team have done a good job. They've moved those cab 2 of those cabinets up because the churn is happening earlier.

Speaker 2

And so we expect that If we can get these cabinets in front of customers, we can still show growth towards the end of the year, but I would say for probably Q2 and Q3, our expectation now is more of a flattish to maybe modestly down in install. Some of it will Continue to work with other cabinets that we can replace, but a lot of it is the return on that capital, when do you replace it, And we think that we've got just a really great lineup for G2E and next year and also some Premium Cabinets that can fill some spots earlier on than we had thought we would have to.

Speaker 4

Got it. I appreciate that. And with respect to the FinTech side, Should we I know there's a lot of ways to look at the positive move of the share repurchases in the balance sheet that Very aptly managed all the way down. Should we be thinking about a balance of M and A and growth funding And share repurchases or more of an sum of 1 and less of the other? How do we balance those two elements?

Speaker 2

Sure. I think the way we're looking at it right now, David, is we feel that the best use of our cash is Investing in this company. We'll still continue to look for tuck ins if they make sense. But Based on what we're trading and just our expectation of how this company will continue to grow, We feel that utilizing the majority of our free cash flow for share purchases will happen for a while until So there's a better opportunity for it. So I think short answer is we think investing in the company is a great thing right now.

Speaker 2

We won't stop looking for Small tuck ins, but to your point, I think it's leaning towards share repurchases right now versus acquisitions.

Speaker 4

Okay, very helpful. Nice quarter and thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Stancho with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Great, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions. Starting off, Freddie, you talked to some strong early reception for the Dynasty View. I think I could speak for all of us and say we've been pretty excited to see what this cabinet is going to do On the casino floors, keeping in mind that it's still fairly early here, just curious if there's any data points you can share On how the cabinet is performing versus floor in some of those early installations that you called out?

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes, I might flip it to Dean, but I would say it's still early, Jeff. So but I think we've gotten we received great feedback from our customers, And there's we have a solid pipeline for that. But right now, I don't deem if we've got any really detailed information on how it's performing against house.

Speaker 6

Anecdotally, it's doing very well, but it is early on. But I'd say the key note that I'd bring out is that backlog is very robust. And there is a, I'd say a higher anticipation even than I would expect and I always expect a high expectation of an initial backlog. So we're looking forward to seeing those units go out. Plenty of themes to come out behind our initial launch product and look forward to seeing how this all plays out.

Speaker 5

Great. That's helpful. Thanks, Dean. And then for my follow-up, moving to the capital allocation strategy, really nice to see the new authorization. Mark, I was hoping you might provide some perspective on how aggressive you expect to be cadence?

Speaker 5

Why should we expect repurchases to ramp sharply in Q2, just given Where the stock sits today and the yield on that or does it make sense for the video game payment to flow through before kind of ramping up here? Just any thoughts there would be appreciated. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Jeff, I'll start and I'll

Speaker 2

let Mark kick in. Look, I think we're going to be opportunistic And Prudh, as we go, I think you stated right. We just finished the Video King acquisition, but I think you should Expect to see repurchases on a pretty steady basis over the next 18 months depending on how our share price Follows, but we're very much committed. And I'd say in the quarter, we didn't do anything because of Video King, but I think Based on how we look at our share price, we expect it to be very consistent, and it may be a little bit more front end loaded than back end loaded. Mark, anything to add?

Speaker 3

Look, I think you've nailed it, Threddy. I would just say, when we announced the initial one and as we've expanded and refreshed this current iteration of the repurchase plan, our goal has always been that we believe the strength of our free cash flow generation Enables us to divert a good portion of our cash flow to a steady portion of our cash flow back to share repurchase and that's our expectation. We expect to be steady and consistent Using a portion of that over time. So I think you should expect to see kind of, as Randy said, just steady consistent buybacks. Great.

Speaker 5

That's helpful. Thanks all and congrats on a nice quarter.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks so much. I wanted to dive a little bit more into the EBITDA guidance and the reiteration. You mentioned Q1 is in line, but maybe I think it came in a little bit ahead Street, but then you're adding in Video King now. So I guess has anything changed in terms of the outlook for this year For the guidance or else all else equal, would you steer people maybe a little closer to the high end now that Video King has been added?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would say a couple of things, Barry. 1, when we gave our guidance in early March, We were obviously thinking about Video King and when that acquisition would close and how quickly it would close. So part of that was in our range and probably at the higher end of that range. But second of all, I don't think we had really looked at the Install base being, I'll say, flattish for the next couple of quarters, flattish to modestly down.

Speaker 2

So I think the 2 are kind of offsetting each other a little bit. And so that's why we still think we're very comfortable in that range, Barry, like all things equal. And if We didn't have a little bit of a, I'll say, a slight headwind in our Install base, we probably would be at the higher end, but I think right now we still feel very comfortable and that we're in that range. And again, there's There's just so many things that everybody is looking at towards the back end of the year that I just think staying in that range is prudent and that's where we're at.

Speaker 7

Understood. Understood. And then just for a follow-up, I'm interested in the e cash kiosks coming into the U. S. Distributed gaming market.

Speaker 7

Any early feedback from operators as you prepare to launch? And I guess more importantly, how big do you think that market opportunity is?

Speaker 2

We're early, Barry. So I would say, look, we've done a lot of research. We've done a lot of discussions with customers in those locations. I think They definitely want a new product there and are excited that we're coming to it. But I don't It's kind of early to tell you how big that is, but look, we do think it's a growth opportunity for us.

Speaker 2

But right now, it's a little early to kind of give any indication of how much that This year, but we feel very comfortable that that product from eCash will be The customers will like what we have there. It's just there are regulatory processes you got to go through and so when it will be there is the it's a timing issue from my standpoint.

Speaker 7

Got it. Understood. All right. Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Davis with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning, guys. Mark, I just want to follow-up a little bit on your commentary on margins. I think they were down about 500 basis points in the Q1. But I think I just want to clarify, I You said that they would be kind of flattish year over year for the remainder of the year. So it gets you to kind of down 100 to 200 basis points for the full year.

Speaker 8

I just want to make sure I heard that correctly.

Speaker 3

Yes. We kind of framed out that we thought we would be kind of consistent with where we are as we're always trying to drive home in these kind of levels In the mid to high 40% range. So I think it's reasonable to think it's kind of consistent now that the acquisitions are kind of all lapping themselves. We seem to be kind of getting to a similar cadence on hardware sales in the mix of our total revenue. So I think that's how to think about it.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then Randy, I know we talked a lot about capital allocation on this call and obviously good to see the buyback. But just curious, Mark made a comment that you would kind of stay at or below The low end of your kind of 2.5 to 3 times leverage target. Just curious where the stock is? Like why not take leverage maybe to the midpoint To be a little bit more aggressive on buybacks given what seems like a pretty incredible value at this level.

Speaker 2

It's a great question, John. I would just say, look, I'm very pleased that our Board Approved the $180,000,000 and I'm not saying that we might not do something down the road, but I think we're going to start here and just see How it plays out. I'm not you know how aggressive I am, John. So, I don't think that should be any News to you that I think we're putting $180,000,000 out there, almost 13.5% of our value. I think that's Where we're at and I think we're comfortable with that.

Speaker 2

And I'm not ready to go with the next step just yet, but we'll see how we trade and what happens over the 6 to 12 months.

Speaker 9

Okay. Appreciate guys. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, John.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Wanted to ask about VenueTies. You guys have now owned this for, I believe, 6 or 7 months. A lot of strength in the sports entertainment, Hospitality Consumer at different stadiums and live events and there continues to be announcements with Newer stadium and more investments in tech.

Speaker 10

So can you just give us a little taste in terms of how this acquisition Is progressing, how we should think about when this becomes more of a meaningful contributor? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure, Chad. Look, it's I'd just say it's early. I think we're about probably 6 to 7 months in. As in any acquisition, You've got to get in there and figure what's going on with it, but we think it's still a great acquisition. I think it's going to be more Of a growth generator in 2024 as we really kind of figure out how much more we can integrate our other products between Wallet and loyalty into their offerings.

Speaker 2

It's been a great acquisition, but I think it's more of a growth driver in 2024, But it's coming along really kind of at the pace we expected. There's as everybody knows, acquisitions are always Challenging and I think it's going along just the way we expected it, but it's more of a 24% growth.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thanks, Randy. And then regarding the just the health of the U. S. Gaming customer, we've heard from a lot of operators that there has been some weakness in some southern regions and I think that's really just been more of a comp issue versus anything else.

Speaker 10

But within your whether it's Class II versus Class III or geographically speaking, have you seen anything that kind of Fed into the RPD outside of the mix issue that you believe is a negative trend or you think Same store trends are kind of stable notwithstanding some of the ins and outs of cabinets. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure. Look, I think the best indicator that we have really is our cash access business. And I think it's really in line with what we had expected. We knew Q1 with January February with Omicron was going to be up and cash access would perform or expected it to perform really well. What we've seen really in April early May is it's coming back down to what I would say is that low single to mid single Growth on a same store basis.

Speaker 2

And that's our best indicator. So right now, I don't think I've seen We have not seen anything that points to a specific region. We're fairly diverse not fairly. We are diverse across North America. So we don't We always say something happens in one region and it's offset by something else.

Speaker 2

But right now, I haven't seen we have not seen anything that indicates Anything different than what we expected, which was it would settle down in the second quarter as it ramps throughout the year and assuming No major macro impact that it would be that a more low single to mid single growth.

Speaker 10

Thanks, Randy. Appreciate it. Nice quarter.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Edward Engel with for Ross MKM. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. You noted that there is some of your customers might have delayed Shipments, just given the Dynasty being launched in 2Q. Just curious, I mean, do you expect that pent up demand to be released pretty quickly into the 2Q? Or is That more of just kind of flows through until the rest of the year?

Speaker 2

Edward, I'd love to say it all is going to come in Q2. My guess is it It'll come throughout the year. Again, I think there's some that are early adopters and they'll take it quickly. I think there are some that will kind of wait to see how the game performs. And so it's not going to all hit in Q2, but look, we think it will ramp throughout the year.

Speaker 2

And so it will impact Q3 and Q4 as well, assuming the cabinet does and the games do what we expect.

Speaker 11

Helpful. Thanks. And then I guess, how should we think about, I guess, ASPs, I guess, bigger picture over the next Couple of quarters. You've got Dynasty, which I'm assuming is accretive, then you've got HHRs, which I would assume is dilutive. Do those offset?

Speaker 11

Or do you think one kind of Overpowers the other.

Speaker 2

Yes. One item to keep in mind, Edward, is we also have Turnavent Units in there, which sometimes drives up our ASP a little bit. So look, I still think we're in the 19 range, but I don't think you that it goes Much higher than that. And again, sometimes Trinovent will skew that because there's other hardware and software that's associated with that cell that kind of gets Blended into that overall ASP. But I think we still feel pretty good at that 2019 range.

Speaker 11

Great. And then I guess does that mean the 1Q was probably, I guess, given the mix shift towards the tournament? Correct.

Operator

Thank you. Our final question this morning comes from the line of George Sutton with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 12

Thank you. The superstar in the room, I would assume, would be Darren with the 16% organic growth for FinTech this quarter. You addressed some of the cash access numbers, but we're certainly assuming a much slower Organic growth for the rest of the year. I wondered if you could just address that dynamic and what might change from Q1 to the other quarters?

Speaker 2

George, I think you're spot on. We talked a little bit about the GGR, but I think we still have which is going to be slower, but I think Darren is still very bullish and his head is a little bit big right now, but he's very bullish about how the loyalty product It is running. It's got a nice pipeline there. AML, up into Canada is doing well. Again, we talked about the e cash units.

Speaker 2

I don't know how much of that will really hit this year, but we expect some of that to go into the distributive gaming market. So look, I think Darren had a great quarter. Fintech had a great quarter. We knew that coming in just given the situation last year. But I think he feels really pretty strongly and I'll let him kick in, but I think we feel pretty strongly that FinTech should continue to grow pretty steadily Unless there's some type of a macro pullback, but it's not going to be what we saw in Q1.

Speaker 4

No, I think you hit

Speaker 9

it, Randy. I think, again, Q1, the anomaly from last year with Omicron, so we'll go back to probably more normalized growth. I think the only probably difference is we've probably seen a lot more international In Q1 and kind of from year over year, so that was kind of interesting. But I think, George, our business on the Fintech side, very diversified across across different product lines. So I think that creates a lot of strength for us.

Speaker 9

And again, the sales pipeline It's strong and so we feel really good about the cadence of where we're at and excited about all the good things happening on both sides of the business With all the premium cabinets and games he's got coming new. So a lot of strength there.

Speaker 12

Got you. I'd have a big head if I look like George Clooney as well. So One question, Randy. You mentioned 11% Incremental opportunity or sort of TAM, can you just walk through what you were building into that larger number?

Speaker 2

I'm trying to make sure that if that was on the HHR and VLT that I talked about, that 11% to 12%, is that So again, that's talking about markets that really haven't been there. I think the BLT market is like 180,000 and then the HHR is 20 or getting close to 20, moving to 30. So Those are maybe a little bit less than that. HHR maybe a little less than 20, but we think over time it's going to continue to grow. So we just look at those two It says markets that we have not played in.

Speaker 2

We just recently launched, as we talked about, our Every Cabinets on the Exacta system in Q1. So I just think again as we look at growth opportunities for Evertie, we continue to look at other verticals We've not been in and execute on them. I give Dean and his team the kudos for getting into HHR To that Intuit acquisition, we're doing BLT really on our own and so expect to be there in 2024. So I look at both of those, George, as areas where we continue to have runway to grow.

Speaker 12

Super. Thanks guys.

Speaker 11

Thanks George.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Taylor for any or comments.

Speaker 2

Just to say thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Every and we look forward to providing you with an update on our Q2 call in early August. Thanks for joining us.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you.