Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Thank you for waiting. We will now begin the online conference call on financial highlights for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023 of Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group. I am Takahashi from Investor Relations Office, Financial Planning Division and will serve as the moderator today. Tetsuya Yonehana, Senior Managing Corporate Executive and Group CFO will give a 15 minute presentation on the financial highlights followed by a Q and A session. The entire session is scheduled to be about 50 minutes.

Operator

Before we begin, let me read the disclaimer. In this presentation, we may state forward looking statements based on current expectations, and all of which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Please be aware that actual results may differ materially from those forecasts. We will now begin the financial results briefing. Mr.

Operator

Yonehana, please begin. I am Yonehana. Thank you very much for joining us today at this late hour for MUFG's online conference call. Please look at the material titled Financial Highlights under JGAAP for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023. First, let me explain our financial results for FY 2022, followed by our performance targets and shareholder return policy for FY 2023.

Operator

Please skip to Page 7. I will start with the income statement summary. As shown in line 17 on the left table, profits attributable to owners of parent was 1,116,400,000,000 yen roughly flat year on year, achieving the performance target of JPY 1,000,000,000,000 and the 2nd highest after FY 2021, which was the highest profit ever. As a result, ROE was 7.03 percent, as shown in Line 19. Regarding the breakdown of the financial results.

Operator

Line 1, gross profits was an increase of 539,000,000,000 yen year on year. Line 2 and below is the breakdown of gross profits, which shows a large year on year increase or decrease depending on the item. This is a result of the Treasury business using 555,700,000,000 yen in gains on cancellation of bear hedging to rebalance the portfolio centering on foreign bonds. Gains on cancellation of the bear fund is included in line 2, net interest income and the losses on the sale of foreign bonds is included in line 5, net gains or losses on debt securities. Although it is difficult to see the actual increase or decrease due to these factors, the drivers of the increase in gross profits are an increase of overseas interest income of loans and deposits due to global interest rate hikes and improvement of lending spread, an increase in foreign exchange and trading income by capturing market fluctuations and an increase in foreign loan related fees.

Operator

Next, Line 6, G and A expenses increased by JPY 161,400,000,000 year on year, but decreased by around JPY 30,000,000,000 in real terms, excluding the impact of foreign exchange and the sale of Union Bank, or MUB. Line 20. Expense ratio was 64.5%, a significant improvement of 4.7 percentage points year on year, thanks to expense controls and a significant increase in gross profits. As a result, Line 7, NOP was JPY 1,594,200,000,000, up by JPY 377,500,000,000, recovering to the level prior to the introduction of negative interest rates. Next, Line 8.

Operator

Total credit costs increased by by JPY 343,400,000,000 year on year, mainly due to JPY 393,900,000,000 valuation losses on loans held by MUV, resulting from the accounting treatment associated with the decision to sell MUV. However, the valuation losses were reversed as part of to ordinary gains. So in real terms, after adjusting for this effect, credit costs decreased by JPY 50,500,000,000 year on year. Line 13, other nonrecurring gains or losses. After adjusting for the amount of valuation losses of bonds held by MUB that were reversed as extraordinary gains due to the same accounting treatment as credit costs.

Operator

Expenses increased by JPY 100 and JPY 49,500,000,000 year on year due to a portion of the valuation losses of bonds held by MUB and the impact of onetime and this is related to the sale of MUB. Finally, Line 15. Net extraordinary gains or losses increased by JPY596,900,000,000 mainly due to JPY 699,500,000,000 gain on sale of of MUB's shares, including the reversal of valuation losses related to MUB's share transfer, which was recorded in the item up to ordinary income. However, most of the increase was due to shifts between accounts. So excluding this factor, the decrease was JPY 138,000,000,000 year on year due to onetime expenses associated with the implementation of structure reforms.

Operator

As a result, Line 17, profits attributable to owners of parent was 1,116,400,000,000 yen a decrease of 14,300,000,000 yen FY 'twenty two financial results are difficult to understand because of the shifts between accounts due to the sale of MUB. But in a nutshell, NOP, which is a profit from the core business, increased significantly while we pursued the disposal of valuation losses on foreign bonds. This offset onetime costs and losses associated with the sale of MEB as well as onetime costs associated with structural reforms. Therefore, profits attributable to owners of parent was on par with the record high income in FY 21, while achieving for the 2nd straight year the goal of stable profit of 1,000,000,000,000 yen or more set forth in the medium term business plan. Please turn to Page 8.

Operator

The lower left graph shows year on year changes in NOP by business segment. In customer segments, profits in AMIS decreased slightly due to the absence of large performance fees we had in Slide 21, but other business groups enjoyed a profit increase, including higher net interest income from loans and deposits and foreign exchange related income, resulting in a significant increase of JPY 443,100,000,000 in total customer segments. In addition, Global Markets Business Group made progress in recording loss on sale of foreign bonds. But on the other hand, sales and trading revenues from foreign exchange and interest rates grew substantially, which curbed the decline in profit. Please turn to Page 9.

Operator

The right side shows the changes in and income by business segment. In addition to AMIS and global markets with lower NOP, GCD Business Group posted a decrease in net income due to the absence of reversal of credit costs in Muwa we had in FY 2021, while the other business groups, DS, R and C, JCID and GCID recorded an increase in net income, thanks to higher NOP, and customer segments as a whole reported an increase of JPY 120,100,000,000. Please skip to Page 11, which shows the balance sheet summary. On the left table, line 2 and below, loans show an increase of 1,300,000,000,000 yen in domestic with corporate loans and decrease of JPY 1,800,000,000,000 in overseas loans from the end of March 2022. Overseas loan decreased due to a JPY 7.5 JPY 1,000,000,000,000 decreased from the sale of MUB, but was an increase excluding this factor.

Operator

Also in deposits, line 12 and below, while both domestic individual and corporate deposits increased, overseas deposits decreased. This was also due to the approximately JPY 12,000,000,000,000 decrease in deposits resulting from the sale of MAB. And excluding this effect, overseas deposits increased.

Speaker 1

Page 12 shows the status of domestic loans. The lower right graph shows the trend of the domestic corporate lending spread. The red dotted line shows the lending spread of large corporates, which is continuing to show trends of improvement. The orange line shows a lending spread of small and medium sized enterprises, showing a gradual improvement with the bottoming out except for the effect of the timing of recording of interest income on interest subsidy system. The next page, Page 13, shows the status of overseas loans.

Speaker 1

The bottom line in the upper right graph shows the differences in yield between lending rate In deposit rate of non consolidated, that is a bank and the trust bank combined, which has shown a slight decline with higher interest rate, but is steadily expanding from the previous year. The bottom right graph shows the trend of the overseas lending spread. The lending spread has been steadily improving as a result of our efforts to improve profitability. Please proceed to the next page, Page 14, Showing the status of loan assets, the balance of nonperforming loans as shown as a line graph on the left increased slightly from the end of Previous fiscal year, however, the NPL ratio indicated by the dotted line is still at a low level. On Page 15 is the status of investment securities such as equity securities and government bonds.

Speaker 1

Although Realized gains shown in the upper left table decreased from the end of the previous fiscal year, partly due to rising interest rates overseas. The total Unrealized gains on available for sale securities amounted to 1,400,000,000,000 yen. Of this amount, the unrealized loss on foreign bonds As of the end of March, the 7th line is approximately JPY1.1 trillion, but as shown in the upper right graph, the valuation loss on the actual basis, taking into Account valuation gains from hedging positions was approximately 700,000,000,000 yen, improving from the peak at the end of September 2022. Page 16 shows the status of capital adequacy. The CET1 ratio, excluding unrealized gains on a finalized Basel III reform basis, was 10.3%, which exceeded the upper limit of the target range of 10% in the medium term business plan, with the ratio we'll continue to be adequate from the viewpoint of soundness.

Speaker 1

That is all for the explanation of the financial results. Please turn back to Page 2. Next, I would like to explain our performance targets for fiscal year 'twenty three. In fiscal year 'twenty three, the final year of our medium term business plan, we have set a target of 1,300,000,000,000 yen, the highest level for profits attributable to owners or parents. Although we expect the decrease in profit due to the Since of net operating profit from Union Bank and the appreciation of the Japanese yen, we expect to see accumulation of Net operating profit in the customer segments has tried to achieve ROE of 7.5%, the financial target of the medium term business plan.

Speaker 1

The business environment will continue to be difficult due to rising interest rates in the U. S. And Europe and concern that the Subseas of some overseas financial institutions will have a ripple effect on the real economy. However, we have been able to build a strong business model both in Japan and So proceeds through the structural reforms we have undertaken to date. We believe that we can meet the needs of various customers on group wide basis, including our partner banks in Asia and Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 1

In FY 'twenty three, as a final stage of the current medium term business plan, we will work to To ensure that the effects of the measures we have taken are linked to results and that we achieve our goals at all costs. Please turn to the Next page. This is a progress of the 3 drivers for achieving ROE target, namely profits, expenses and risk weighted In terms of profit at the top, net operating profits in the customer segments increased significantly by JPY443,100,000,000 As a result of efforts in line with our growth strategy showing that the earning power is steadily improving, profits attributable to owners of parent also remained steady, exceeding And also remained steady, exceeding 1,000,000,000,000 yen 2 years in a row. We are also able to confirm that control of expenses was done and RWA shown in the lower section, and we are feeling a certain level of responses in the respect. Please turn to Page 4.

Speaker 1

First, the ROE target and capital management target in the upper left hand corner. Although ROE for fiscal year 'twenty two was 7 point The final year of the medium term business plan, the common equity Tier 1 ratio was 10.3%, which is above the target However, with the recent bankruptcies of overseas financial institutions, we believe it is necessary to assess the impact on the real on me as well as the effect on the regulatory environment. We believe that we are at a point in our business where we need to manage our capital comfortably. Next, regarding shareholder returns shown in the upper right corner, we consider the enhancement of shareholder During the optimal balance between capital soundness and investment for growth, based on this policy in FY 'twenty two, we increased the annual dividend per share by 4 yen in addition to a share buyback of 450,000,000,000 yen the largest ever. In FY 'twenty three, in order to realize Dividend payout ratio of 40% set forth in our medium term business plan, we focused an annual dividend of 41 yen per share, an increase of yen per share, the largest increase in our history.

Speaker 1

Lastly, regarding our initiatives to enhance shareholder value in the lower part of the slide. Through initiatives, including pursuance of growth strategies, structural reforms and capital management, as outlined in the medium term [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] Yes, Brian. Achieving medium and long term increases in ROE, we will link this to increasing shareholder value continuously. That is all. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take questions for the remaining 35 minutes. As always, we kindly ask each person to limit your questions to 2 at a time. If you have questions, please press asterisk and one on the phone. So first questioner, Mr.

Operator

Takamiya, please. I am Takamiya from Nomura Securities. I have two questions, please. First, I would like to know your views on the level of capital and the that will end the share buyback and second, about your thoughts on the level of underlying profit growth for FY 2023. Please explain in more detail why you have decided not to repurchase shares even though your CET1 ratio is above 10%, the target range.

Operator

You mentioned bankruptcies of overseas financial institutions, etcetera. If you plan to assess the impact on the real economy, what kind of time frame do you envision for at including U. S. Monetary policy, we may have to ascertain the situation for 6 to 12 months. Looking back over the past several years, there was hardly any moment when the environment surrounding banks was clear.

Operator

Which points are you particularly concerned about? And how long do you think it will take given the current circumstances. On that basis, what are your current thoughts on the CET1 ratio and share repurchases? That is my first question. 2nd question, could you clarify how much increase in underlying profit is expected in FY2023, Day 3, excluding various special factors.

Operator

In FY 'twenty three, NOP target, after adjusting for MUB valuation losses is a decrease of JPY 140,000,000,000. But considering the impact of the strong yen and the absence of NOP from MUB, I think we can expect an NOP increase of about JPY 100,000,000,000 on an actual basis. If we assume that the net gains on equity securities will decrease and that credit costs will increase by about 20,000,000,000 yen Am I correct to project that ordinary profit in real terms will increase by about JPY 50,000,000,000 to 60,000,000,000 yen year on year on pretax basis. Should we also consider gains from investment trust cancellations, Could you please clarify your view on the increase in underlying profit, please? Mr.

Operator

Takamiya, thank you for your question. Let me explain the relationship between our capital level and the fact that we decided not to do share buyback this time. Regarding share buyback, looking back on the recent past, After the Q2 of FY 'twenty two, we resolved to repurchase 150,000,000,000 yen of our own shares by taking advantage of the capital release effect of the MUB sale. At that point, we decided to forego the regular portion of the repurchase, taking into account the uncertainty of the environment and the volatility of the financial markets. Therefore, While we recognize that investors' expectations for share buybacks were high for the financial results briefing this time, And while we believe that the uncertainty we talked about back then is gradually clearing up, The financial instability that began in March, including the bankruptcy or bailout of overseas financial institutions, has become apparent at this moment.

Operator

Therefore, we decided that we need to ascertain the situation. In order to fulfill our financial intermediary function as a responsible financial institution, It is necessary at this point to maintain a capital buffer, which is why we achieved CET1 ratio of 10.3% and still decided to forego share buyback. As for the time line going forward. As you just mentioned, the environment surrounding financial institutions will stay foggy for some time to come. We made this decision because the timing is right after the recent collapse of overseas financial institutions, and we want to see how it will affect the economy and regulations in the future.

Operator

You said that it may take some time to determine the impact on the real economy, but I think we can make a better judgment after some time has passed. Our next decision on share repurchases is expected to be at the Q2 results briefing of this fiscal year. This is my response to your first question. On the second point, the underlying profit increase for FY 'twenty three is roughly in line with what you just explained. If I may elaborate a little, Our NOP target is forecasted to decline by 140,000,000,000 yen year on year, which includes a total negative impact of JPY 250,000,000,000 comprising JPY 120,000,000,000 from the sale of MUB and JPY 130,000,000,000 from the appreciation of the yen.

Operator

On the other hand, we plan to offset the majority of the negative 120,000,000,000 yen in NOP from the sale of MUB by 110,000,000,000 yen, mainly in the customer segments. Therefore, excluding the impact of foreign exchange and the sale of MUB. We plan to increase NOP by 110,000,000,000 yen We expect to see some items posting losses of several 1,000,000,000 of yen, such as credit costs and other items down through ordinary profits, but we do not expect any major extraordinary gains or losses in other areas. So that is our structure for the net income target of JPY 1,300,000,000,000. So broadly speaking, the impact of the sale of MUB and Restructuring costs in FY 2022 will disappear, and the plan is to offset the negative impact from the foreign exchange and the sale of MUB by the increase in NOP to reach 1,300,000,000,000 yen This 1,300,000,000,000 yen would be JPY 1,240,000,000,000 on a normalized basis, excluding the JPY 60,000,000,000 impact from the change in the equity method accounting date for Morgan Stanley from FY 'twenty 3 as a one time factor.

Operator

Thank you. We will now move on to the second And Mr. Yano, please. I am Yano from JPMorgan Securities. I have Two questions.

Operator

First, in the area of overseas credit quality, concerns about CRE, commercial real estate have been spreading, especially in the U. S. I would like to ask if you have any update on MEFG's GE's exposure to overseas CRE and the current credit situation. This is my first question. 2nd question it's about your view on the dividend payout ratio for FY 'twenty three.

Operator

With a dividend forecast of 41 yen against a net income target of 1 point 3,000,000,000,000 yen Your 40% dividend payout ratio target in the MTBP will not be reached. How should we think about Thank you, Mr. Yano. Regarding overseas credit, especially U. S.

Operator

CRE, I do not have the figures at hand, but I believe that the exposure to U. S. CRE is not large, and the impact on credit costs and other expenses is Streamly Limited. As for the second question on the dividend payout ratio of 40%, If we simply do the math between 1,300,000,000,000 yen 41 yen the dividend payout ratio would be about 38%, as you rightly said. But as I mentioned in Mr.

Operator

Takamiya's question earlier, JPY 1,300,000,000,000 Net income target factors in the approximately JPY 60,000,000,000 by including in 15 months' worth of earnings of Morgan Stanley estimated based on the results for the January March quarter due to the change in the equity method accounting date. This brings the target to 1 point to 4,000,000,000,000 on a normalized basis, based on which our dividend forecast of 41 yen represents a dividend EBIT ratio of 40%. I understand well. Sorry for the basic question. Thank you.

Operator

Now the 3rd questioner, Mr. Nakamura, please. I am Nakamura from BoA Securities. I have two questions. The first one overlaps with Mr.

Operator

Yanoh's question. I understand that you adjusted Morgan Stanley's JPY 60,000,000,000 for its 15 month earnings, but I think the market expects a 40% dividend payout ratio on net income. Is 40% the highest you can get adjusted for Morgan Stanley or is there a possibility of a further increase in dividend? That's my first question. My second question is, in projecting the CET1 ratio, My own calculations assumed a ratio of about 10.6%, but it was 10.3%.

Operator

What is the reason for the 30 basis point short fall. Thank you for the question. It depends on how you think about dividends, but the basic idea is that dividends are based on normalized earnings, excluding special factors. So if we take in 15 months of Morgan Stanley's earnings as a special case, 3 months of that is outside of the normalized portion and will decline by that amount in FY 2024 and beyond. Therefore, We decided to use this dividend forecast as we believe it is appropriate to consider the dividend payout ratio based on the profit excluding the JPY 60,000,000,000 increase due to the change in the equity method accounting date, which is a one off special factor.

Operator

As a reminder, we intend to achieve the ROE target of 7.5 percent based on the normalized net income of JPY 1,240,000,000,000, excluding JPY 60,000,000,000 as opposed to JPY 1,300,000,000,000. Regarding your second question, That CET1 ratio should be in the mid-ten percent range or even a little higher at the end of the first half. The main reason for the change from the interim projection is due to foreign currency translation adjustments. Does this answer your question? I understand.

Speaker 1

Next, Mr. Matsuno, please. Yes. This is Matsuno from Mizuho Securities. I would like to ask 2 questions.

Speaker 1

My first question is on ROE and capital policy. As for the denominator of the ROE, foreign currency translation adjustments will be reflected. So I would like to know the FX assumption for the current fiscal year, which I believe is projecting yen appreciation, which in turn will decrease The FX translation of the denominator. Is it correct to assume that the planned 7.5% takes into account share buyback to a certain extent? My second question is on the change of the equity method accounting date for Morgan Stanley on the consolidated PL.

Speaker 1

What led to this decision and in which upcoming quarters will this date change effect be resolved? Should we expect this kind of change of the date for other overseas subsidiaries going forward as well. Thank you very much for your question. As for the relationship between ROE and capital policy, the FX assumption at the end of the previous fiscal year was set in the low 120s to the U. S.

Speaker 1

Dollar. And the FX translation [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] The contribution of the denominator will decrease accordingly. But on the other hand, the profit of the numerator, as explained earlier, we'll show the negative effect coming from yen appreciation. As I answered towards Takamiya san's question earlier, To add for your reference, we have conducted simulation between foreign exchange and ROE. And if we see swings toward yen depreciation, say, by 1 yen the ROE will be So the foreign exchange assumption is set at low 120s.

Speaker 1

But if it does not appreciate by that much, It will have a favorable effect on the ROE. As to whether we incorporate Share buyback in the ROE target of 7.5%. In order to achieve this target, of course, [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] Profit plan and capital management is very important. And in formulating the capital policy [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] We have conducted various simulations, such as what if it was 0 or a few 100,000,000,000 yen. And as a result, we came up with a target of 7.5%.

Speaker 1

Even if we do not buy back our own shares, We will aim for 7.5%. But that does not mean that we will not consider share buyback because of this. We will surely achieve the planned ROE and undoubtedly looking at the current stock price, share buyback is an effective So it is linked to ROE, but ROE realization and share buyback will be considered separately as we aim to achieve our targets. Next From completion of Morgan Stanley's accounting date changes and its impact. At MUFG, we recognize timely disclosure of financial information to be an issue.

Speaker 1

Accounting date change of overseas subsidiary is acceptable under the Japanese standards by 3 months. But having said that, the significant event, for example, the recent credit costs related to CECL and such information have been disclosed early and widely on our part. [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] But looking at the recent situation for the fiscal year just ended, that is fiscal year 'twenty 2, The ratio of the net income for the year of the overseas subsidiaries came to less than 50%, With Morgan Stanley impact being large, followed by currency, OKS. So with ratio of overseas subsidiaries being high, If there are no changes in the accounting date, that will be preferable. Its significance, It's involvement of subsidiaries and which subsidiaries should be targeted and feasibility impact.

Speaker 1

These are all considered, and we have continued to aim for resolving This accounting date impact. With Morgan Stanley, the first of such attempts this fiscal year, considering Significance of the amount and its high feasibility in comparison to consolidate subsidiaries as it is accounted for by the We implemented the change of accounting date for Morgan Stanley and the sale of MUB last year. The impact of these 2 subsidiaries disappear and the ratio of subsidiaries out of the net income will So the question is, [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] How about the remaining overseas subsidiaries? As I mentioned earlier, we will confirm their significance and feasibility, Especially focusing on Kunxi and BDI, your bank dynamo, and we will basically [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] Look at them as targets. We will continue to cooperate with such subsidiaries.

Speaker 1

And as for the 2 subsidiaries I just mentioned, discussion is ongoing as to when this should be resolved. But it is too early to share any concrete information as of now. Thank you very much. In which quarter will I'm sorry I forgot to answer your question. In the Q1 of MEFG, we will account for the 2 quarters of Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 1

That is the first and the second quarters. Thank you very much. Next, Mr. Takai, please. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

This is Takai from Daiwa Securities, I'd like to ask 2 questions. First on the gain on sales of subsidiary in the amount of Please share details of This increase by 415,100,000,000 yen on a non consolidated basis. It is natural for this to be offset on a consolidated basis, but due to, for example, tax effect, Is there some kind of impact coming from this transaction? And my second question may be Redundant, but at the end of the current fiscal year, the CET1 ratio target is set at 9.5% to 10%. Will this be achieved organically even without share buyback?

Speaker 1

What if our risk weighted assets increases significantly? I would appreciate your comment. Thank you. May I confirm your second question, please? Yes.

Speaker 1

My second question was the CET1 ratio is shown with a target of 9.5% to 10% For fiscal year 'twenty three, does this take into account share buyback is the question? Or is it just [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] Considering risk weighted average, will you give this number? As for your first question regarding the extraordinary income For the bank, on a non consolidated basis of JPY 415,100,000,000, this was canceled in the [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] So the question is what this is. So this is a gain on sale of the bank Selling shares to Muwa in response to Muwa's share buyback. After the sale of MUB, the asset was [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] And therefore, the capital or asset was returned to the parent, that is a bank, in the form of share buyback.

Speaker 1

So that is the essence of this trade. Therefore, for the bank, because of the difference From the book value, gain on sales is recorded, but on a consolidated basis, it is canceled So on the non consolidated basis, this JPY 415,100,000,000 is recognized? Yes, it is correct to think that It is recognized almost fully, but on a consolidated basis, it is not recognized? No, it is not. And as for your second question, I think you're referring to the top left graph on Page 4, which may be misleading.

Speaker 1

This is showing the target range of the CET1 ratio of the medium term business plan. So it is not as if we are targeting it to fall between 9.5% to 10%. [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] So we do not intend to increase, for example, RWA to control this figure. Actually, I was looking at Page 2. No, I'm sure it is the same with Page 2.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much. I understand. Next, Mr. Niwa, please. Yes, this is Niwa speaking from Citi.

Speaker 1

I have two questions. Moving away from the financial results, my question is regarding M and A and share buyback. The final investment decision into growth came to 200,000,000,000 yen in fiscal year 2022. Was this as expected at the beginning of the fiscal year? So and maybe I'm looking at a short span in time, but how much of profit contribution can we expect this to bring in the current fiscal year?

Speaker 1

[SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] How much investment into growth are you projecting this fiscal year? You mentioned a decision regarding share buyback will be made in the mid year, Which is going to be about 6 months away. I mean, why wait 6 months is my question. Are you incorporating that the environment Thank you very much for your question. As shown on Page 5, For example, as you can see on the left, including home credit, Investment totaling approximately JPY 200,000,000,000 has been decided.

Speaker 1

[SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] At the beginning of fiscal year 'twenty two, we did not specify investment into growth. But as the year went by and opportunity arose, we looked at Therefore, [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] As for the current fiscal year, how much of the internal reserves will be put to growth investments? We do not put a concrete number to as of now. Home Credit [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] And Akuraku and DMI Finance, for example, these acquisitions were decided in the previous fiscal year with execution of investments still pending. As for the profit contribution in FY 'twenty three, we may expect home credit to contribute to profit partially through And that will be through customer segments.

Speaker 1

Operating net income will be increased by 110,000,000,000 yen including higher profit from KIS. And within this increase of 20,000,000,000 yen profit contribution from inorganic strategies of Please of KS, such as home credit, capital Numeral Securities and non bank in Vietnam, SHB Finance may be realized. [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] And regarding share buyback, we said that decision will be made midpoint of the year as a reference to the timing. The share buyback will be conducted in an agile manner because We have a few minutes remaining. So we would like to have Yonihana give you some closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much for your valuable questions today. Today, I explained our achievements in fiscal year 2022 With continued focus on dialogue with our shareholders and investors, we will pursue financial and capital management aimed at sustainable enhancement of shareholder value. I would like to ask for your continued understanding and support. Thank you very much for your kind attention today. So with that, we will end this conference on the company webpage.

Speaker 1

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