NASDAQ:POAI Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 Earnings Report $1.03 -0.04 (-3.74%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.02 -0.01 (-1.36%) As of 07:53 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Predictive Oncology EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.86Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/APredictive Oncology Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$0.24 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/APredictive Oncology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/15/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, May 15, 2023Conference Call Time5:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsPredictive Oncology's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 15, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask your questions. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:21And now, I would like to hand over the conference to your speaker today, Mr. Glenn Garmont, Investor Relations. Mr. Garmont, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Welcome and thank you everyone for dialing into the Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 earnings call. First, you will hear from our Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board, Raymond Vineri Then our Chief Financial Officer, Bob Myers, will review our financials. Finally, Doctor. Pamela Busch, our Chief Business Officer, We'll join Raymond and Bob to answer any questions that you may have. Certain matters discussed during this call contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:00These forward looking statements reflect our current expectations and projections about future events and are subject to substantial risks, uncertainties and assumptions about our operations and the investments we make. All statements other than statements of historical facts Included in the call regarding our strategy, future operations, future financial position, future revenue and financial performance, Projected costs, prospects, plans and objectives of management are forward looking statements. The words anticipate, believe, Estimate, expect, intend, may, plan, would, target and similar expressions are intended to identify Forward looking statements, although not all forward looking statements contain these identifying words. Our actual future performance may materially differ from that contemplated by the forward looking statements as a result of a variety of factors, including, among other things, factors Just under the heading Risk Factors in our filings with the SEC. Except as expressly required by law, the company disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:09And now, I would like to turn the call over to Raymond Vineri, our Chief Executive Officer. Raymond? Speaker 200:02:16Duane, thank you very much and good afternoon everyone. So as many of you already know, when I accepted the opportunity to serve as Chief Executive Officer of Predictive Oncology in November of last year. I did so because I recognized the enormous Currently applying artificial intelligence to drug discovery. These assets not only include our proprietary patient Centric discovery platform called Pedal and our computational research engine called Core, C O R E, which by the way was developed by a brilliant computational biologist at the Center For Computational Biology at Carnegie Mellon University, but also our comprehensive biobank of more than 150,000 heterogeneous tumor samples and more than 200,000 pathology slides, all of which are currently being digitized and curated for both clinical utility and drug discovery. And I should say that the word heterogeneous is a very important term. Speaker 200:03:32Even though many patients are diagnosed with the same type of cancer, each of those tumors respond differently to particular cancer therapies. Each tumor and every response is unique. Understanding that heterogeneity is invaluable along the continuum of drug discovery through drug development. These dry lab assets, our assets, that those being Pedal and Core, Together with our own wet lab capabilities in a CLIA certified facility allow for both in silico computer modeling and bench level laboratory experimentation. By predicting clinical success or failure early in the drug discovery process And by introducing the very human element of heterogeneity far earlier than previously thought possible, We offer biopharmaceutical companies and drug developers a persuasive and multifaceted value proposition that includes: First, the mitigation of clinical risk at the most critical stage of drug discovery. Speaker 200:04:412nd, by identifying and validating drug targets sooner, thereby avoiding unnecessary trials that are likely to fail to expand the drug development pipeline and third, by accelerating early stage discovery, replenishing pipeline And truncating clinical development, the patent life of these drugs post commercialization has extended and expanded. Prior to the application of artificial intelligence to the methodology of drug discovery, drug relied entirely on the successful outcome of very large, extremely expensive and highly speculative clinical trials to determine If a tumor type will respond to a certain compound, as we all know, the failure rate across the industry is staggering. It is estimated that as many as 95% of drug candidates that enter clinical trials will fail and never be developed. Our value proposition is this. By utilizing our Pedal platform, our partners essentially have the ability with much lower financial risk and therefore a much greater likelihood of commercial success. Speaker 200:06:13We have Subsequently repositioned Predictable Oncology as a science driven company that is enabled by artificial intelligence. And given this important distinction, we have been able to differentiate ourselves in the market. I am pleased with the progress that we are making, which in my view seems to indicate that what we do and how we do it is resonating with commercial drug developers as well as academic and research institutions. As we continue down this path, we are earning visibility and credibility, which is both telling and rewarding. And as momentum grows, we are very well positioned to participate in the $1,000,000,000 Artificial Intelligence drug discovery market that is projected to grow annually at a compound rate of more than 30%. Speaker 200:07:10For the benefit of those who may be new to our story, please allow me to step back for a moment and give you a high level overview of our Pedal Pedal is not just one thing. Pedal is several interrelated things Functioning in unison. Pedal is the application of artificial intelligence as a tool that is directed by rigorous scientific experimentation conducted in our laboratory, which is informed by the most Significant resource at our disposal, a biobank of more than 150,000 tumor samples. These three things comprise the Pedal platform. And to be clear, when I say artificial intelligence, I am referring specifically to active learning or machine learning, which is also a key differentiator for us. Speaker 200:08:07A simple way to think about artificial intelligence is this. AI is a process that mimics human thought. It is programmed to match The intelligence and capabilities of human thinking that is to reason artificially, hence the term artificial intelligence. Machine learning on the other hand actually has the capacity to make predictions or decisions based upon data. It is a very sophisticated form of statistical analysis. Speaker 200:08:39It makes predictions based upon information That humans, which in our case are scientists, have provided that is supervised, not programmed, that is active, not static. The more data or information that we feed into the system, the more the system is able to make accurate predictions based upon that data. It is something that learns by iteration, hence the term machine learning. Our Pedal platform is essentially supervised machine learning driven by scientific experimentation conducted in our own laboratory And informed by a biobank of 150,000 tumor samples, we conduct laboratory experiments to validate those in silico analyses to prove or disprove the viability of drug targets Scientifically, not just statistically. This is our value proposition. Speaker 200:09:39This is what sets us apart from all other AI Drug Discovery Companies. The significance of this methodology, I believe, Continues to be misunderstood or perhaps underappreciated by analysts, investors and the market in general, That we are not an artificial intelligence company, but that we utilize our own proprietary machine learning capabilities in a way that cannot be duplicated elsewhere precisely because it is primarily driven by scientific rigor, Not just algorithmic programming, it is informed by testing actual heterogeneous human tumor samples Retreating from our own biobank, then validated experimentally in our own laboratory. Lastly, it is equally important to understand that Pedal has been scientifically and technically tested, validated and verified. Petal is able to predict with 92% accuracy whether a tumor sample respond to a certain drug compound or not. And in so doing, Petal is able to inform the selection of drug tumor type combinations For subsequent in vitro testing and facilitating gono go decisions before investing in Costly and time consuming later stage in vivo human trials, Pedal is a decision support tool. Speaker 200:11:10It answers scientific questions and clarifies scientific decision making. A very significant milestone that occurred during the first Quarter this year was the announcement that we have partnered with Cancer Research Horizon, CRH. CRH is the world's largest private funder of cancer research. I want to repeat this point to emphasize the significance of this collaboration. DRH is the single Largest private funder of cancer research in the world. Speaker 200:11:47CRH has chosen to partner with Predictive Oncology to utilize our Pedal platform to identify the most suitable population of patients for the further development of their compounds. Why? Because we can preemptively screen for patient heterogeneity before ever conducting a single clinical trial. And to be even more specific, we have partnered with CRH to evaluate preclinically certain drug inhibitors for the purpose of determining which cancer types and patient populations are most likely to respond to treatment with these compounds. To give you an idea of the breadth, depth and impact of Cancer Research Horizons on drug discovery and development globally, Here are a few statistics. Speaker 200:12:40DRH has access to a network of more than 4,000 of the world's leading cancer researchers. They spend upwards of $370,000,000 annually on cancer research. They generate in excess of $647,000,000 in revenue from royalties and intellectual property alone. They have provided critical support that has launched 11 cancer therapies currently on market. They are currently sponsoring an additional 160 compounds. Speaker 200:13:19The portfolio of spin out companies have secured investments in excess of $2,800,000,000 So while we were not able to disclose the specific compounds or mention a specific dollar value related to this relationship when it was first announced in March, We can say that this partnership provides for substantial development milestones and sales related royalty payments over time. Through this one strategic relationship, we have exponentially expanded our reach into the oncologic drug development community and By virtue of the collaboration itself, have the potential to impact the most critical stage of early drug discovery in a way that has never been done before. In February, we also announced the partnership with SeverGenics to develop the first ever genomics based approach to precision radiation therapy, utilizing artificial intelligence, which we believe has the potential to revolutionize the field of radiation oncology. Today, Radiation therapy or RT is prescribed and delivered using a one size fits all approach where all tumors are treated empirically, if not uniformly. We believe that the next and most Significant paradigm shift in the field of radiation oncology will come from exploiting tumor genomics to personalize and optimize The radiation therapy prescription dose and to identify drug targets for the development of radio synthesizers and radio protectors for biopharma and industry. Speaker 200:15:11FibroGenics' Precision Genomics radiation therapy platform provides the first Clinically validated approach to optimizing the radiation therapy prescription dose for each individual patient. It is personalized medicine. If we take this one step further and we apply artificial intelligence and machine learning to the equation, the possibility exists to discover medicinal radiosensitizers and radio protectors, which might lead to the repurposing of existing compounds or the development So an entirely new class of drugs. We mentioned this in our last call, but it certainly bears repeating. Sebergenx is a spin out of the Moffett Cancer Center, where the Sebergenx precision genomics platform is currently being used in a Phase 2 prospective clinical trial for triple negative breast cancer. Speaker 200:16:12This is the first ever genomics approach Precision radiation therapy. This is not hypothetical and it is clinically actionable. To put this in context, there are approximately 1,900,000 newly diagnosed cancer patients In the United States every year and potentially more than 1,000,000 of those patients may be treated with radiotherapy. If the overall survival rate of those patients treated with radiotherapy is improved by just 4%, That translates into 40,000 lives, which is almost equivalent to eradicating breast cancer. Needless to say, we are very excited about potentially playing a role in improving clinical outcomes of cancer patients treated with radiation therapy. Speaker 200:17:07So in essence, predictive oncology and SeverGenics have entered into a scientific collaboration Leverage the computational capacity of our Pedal platform and the diagnostic capabilities of the SevaGenx Precision Genomics Radiation platform. The impact of these two technologies, they extend well beyond clinical utility to include drug discovery, Drug repurposing and screening for radio sensitivity or radio resistance. Based upon initial conversations With NASA, for example, the ability to develop the 1st ever genomics based artificial intelligence approach To identify novel radio protectors is viewed as a significant benefit to aerospace in general and the astronaut core in particular. This potentially extends to other government agencies or industries, including the Department of Defense And Nuclear Energy. Keep in mind that predictive oncology provides services along the entire continuum of drug discovery through drug development. Speaker 200:18:18While the Pedal platform, for instance, focuses exclusively on drug discovery, Our formulations and solubility capabilities address drug development. So in addition to existing contracts Biotech and Biopharma Companies. Predictive Oncology recently announced a new collaboration with Flugen Inc. On the next generation vaccine related to respiratory diseases. And in addition, we are finalizing 2 quite novel formulation proposals for pharmaceutical companies, both of which will likely begin before the end of Q3. Speaker 200:18:56Most recently, we announced the extension of a contract with Integra Therapeutics, a very well respected leader in the development of next generation gene writing tools to advance gene therapies. Through this collaboration, predictive oncology will utilize our proprietary High throughput self interaction chromatography, which we refer to as HSC, to rapidly and accurately measure biomolecular interactions that assist pharmaceutical and biotech companies in the workflow and process of drug development. Taken together, we believe that these initial collaborations speak to the broad applicability of our suite of technologies. Before I turn the call over to Bob, I would like to conclude by reviewing some rather noteworthy additions to our Scientific Advisory Board and Board of Directors, as well as the formation of a Business Advisory Board. Beginning with our Scientific Advisory Board, We are pleased to welcome Christophe Reinhart, PhD MBA to our team. Speaker 200:20:07Christophe Brings vast experience in oncology translational research, drug development and innovation. For more than a decade, Doctor. Reinhart worked at Eli Lilly where he was responsible for strategy and implementation of translational research for its Portfolio of Oncology Assets and Biomarkers. As Acting Chief Scientific Officer for Cellphenomics, He now plays an instrumental role in determining what types of novel drugs and drug combinations might be beneficial to future cancer patients with solid tumors. So this experience, Christophe's experience, obviously It's both timely and critical in light of the strategic direction in which predictive oncology is now moving. Speaker 200:20:59Christophe joins Doctor. Mark Melandro and Doctor. Robert Murphy on the Scientific Advisory Board. Mark Melandro is Vice President of Operations for Science at the Chan Zuckerberg Initiatives and a very well respected expert in genomics, Molecular Biology, Biochemistry and Bioengineering. Robert Murphy is a pioneer in the field of machine learning and biological analytics. Speaker 200:21:26He was founding head of the computational biology department at Carnegie Mellon University and led the development of our core machine learning technology that powers predictive oncology's petal platform. These industry thought leaders comprise what I consider to be a world class Scientific Advisory Board and individually and built together, We are already benefiting from their insights and contributions. We have also convened a business advisory board, which Like the Scientific Advisory Board, will be comprised of relevant business leaders and key thought leaders that will work directly with senior management, but also interact with the Board of Directors and the Scientific Advisory Boards. The names of those advisors will be announced in the coming weeks. And lastly, we recently announced that Veena Rao, PhD, MBA, He's also joined the Board of Directors of Predictive Oncology. Speaker 200:22:31Doctor. Rao is a pharma, biotech and digital health veteran With extensive experience launching products and building commercial organizations in the pre launch and early launch phases. Doctor. Rao currently serves as Chief Business Officer of Portal Instruments, where she leads the identification, Evaluation and negotiation of partnership opportunities for that company and heads a team of science and business professionals to guide the company's short term and long term commercial strategies. Doctor. Speaker 200:23:06Rao will replace David Smith, He is stepping down as Director, but will remain as an advisor to the Board and serve as Lead Corporate Counsel for the company. At this point, I will turn the call over to Bob Myers, our CFO. Bob? Speaker 300:23:23Thank you, Raymond. We ended the Q1 2023 with cash and cash equivalents of $18,600,000 as compared to $22,100,000 as of December 31, 2022. In addition, We have $1,800,000 outstanding warrants that represent an additional source of capital. We have No debt, so our balance sheet is very strong. As of March 31, 2023, shareholders' equity stood at $18,600,000 as compared to $21,800,000 as of December 31, 2022. Speaker 300:24:08We recorded Q1 2023 revenue of $200,000 as compared to $300,000 for the Q1 of 2022. Our gross margin in the Q1 of 2023 was 50% as compared to 65% for the Q1 of 2022. Operating for the Q1 of 2022. Net cash used in operating activities during the Q1 of 2023 was $3,400,000 as compared to $3,100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. Net cash used in investing activities during the Q1 of 2023 was $100,000 as compared to $100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. Speaker 300:25:11Net cash provided in financing activities During the Q1 of 2023 was 0 as compared to $100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. That concludes our financial summary. You can find additional details in our 8 ks containing our earnings press release as well as our 10 Q, which is on file with the SEC and also available on our website. So with that, I'm going to turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. And as a reminder, Doctor. Speaker 300:25:46Pamela Busch, our Chief Business Officer Is also available for this segment of the call. Operator00:25:55Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and Thank you. Our first question comes from Michael Broadbent, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:26:54Hi, Ray and Bob. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:26:58Yes. Yes, Michael, I can hear you. Speaker 300:27:00Hi, guys. I appreciate you setting up this call, obviously. I actually have 2 questions if there's time. If not, I'll get back in line. The first question really comes down to the financials. Speaker 300:27:12This company has put its shareholders through quite a bit over the past 2 years and cash, Cash equivalents decreasing, total liabilities are up, revenues decreased significantly. ZPredict isn't going anywhere. I know the focus is on petal core, the biobank and other assets, but what is the timeline for I'm going to ask this again, what is the timeline And with the cancer horizons, how many molecules have you looked at yet under that partnership? Speaker 200:27:48Pamela, did you want to address that or would you like me to address Sure. Speaker 300:27:54I Speaker 400:27:58can talk about the compounds. So, thank you so much for the question. We are working in the first project with the Cancer Research UK. The number of molecules is irrelevant because we can actually Peloton actually works with hundreds of molecules at the same time. We are not at liberty to disclose how many molecules they have because we've talked about what is the target And the program that we're working on, so I don't want to disclose that that is confidential, but we are working on the first program with them and we expect that this is going to expand 2 other targets within their pipeline. Speaker 300:28:38When you say the first program, when will that program complete? And I guess because predictive isn't going to make money unless milestones are achieved. I guess what we want to know is, is the program successful or not? Speaker 400:28:53We do not have the answer to that yet. We have not completed the program yet. We are expecting it similar to the proof of concept to be about 12 weeks of actual testing. And then there is the analysis of the data. So we are expecting that before the end of Q3, we're going to have the results. Speaker 400:29:15But that all depends because we have to follow the science. Speaker 300:29:19Okay. And then my follow-up question if I have time for Ray and Bob. There's concerns of lawsuits from, I believe, Richard Gabriel and Other employees that were previously with Predictive Oncology subsidiaries, can you address those lawsuits? And any ongoing process, is that going to affect us further? Raymond, may I take that? Speaker 200:29:49Yes, go ahead, Juan. Sure. Speaker 300:29:52Michael, first off, it's a singular lawsuit and it does not involve Raymond Richard Gabriel. It's Tony Fudeikis. Tony Fudeikis. Yes, I'm sorry. Right. Speaker 300:30:02That's all right. Not a problem. This is a recent lawsuit. And 1st and most obviously, I cannot comment on the lawsuit, where it stands or how we are defending the lawsuit. I will say that there is a very strong commitment on our part to put this to bed And that there will be very little, if any impact to the investors and to the company as a result of this lawsuit. Speaker 300:30:32Okay. Thanks, Bob. Operator00:30:37Thank you. The next question comes from Rob Antonia, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:30:48Yes. Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the call guys. Actually just one follow on to sort of I guess point of clarification for Michael's question. Can you confirm that there is in fact at least 1 compound that is physically being worked on At some point in time, when it's complete, there will be some kind of milestone payment made upon successful completion of that project, if you will. Speaker 400:31:13I can so thank you for the question. Yes, I can confirm that we have at least 1 compound that we're working on. If the compound is successful to continue to move in development, that is when the financial terms that we have shared And milestones that's when that will become effective. But yes, we do have at least 1 compound. Speaker 500:31:37Okay. Thank you. And that sort of I guess not to hold you to it, but as you said, based on the science, etcetera, the target is end of 3rd quarter ish To determine whether that is successful or not? Speaker 400:31:52That is absolutely everybody's goal. And like I said, it can be sooner, but it can also be later depending on the science as we're going to follow it. But expecting that it is going to It is going to be similar to the proof of concept that we have shared in the past. That is what we're estimating to be. Yes. Speaker 500:32:11Thank you, Pamela. So just I had just two questions. First was really just more point of clarity on In October, there was a big deal with David Smith being brought on As a director with a lot of value he was going to be providing, 6 months later, he's sort of stepped down and been replaced by Doctor. Rao, who seems very, very qualified, just curious if you could share as to the rationale and reasoning as to why David has sort of stepped down and does he maintain his sort of, I guess, stock that he's been he received at point of Being appointed as a Director. Speaker 200:32:54Right. Thank you, Robert. This is Raymond. That's a very straightforward answer. Last part first. Speaker 200:33:01Yes, whatever stock he was awarded while he was on the Board, he maintains. The reason he stepped down is Very simple. When David joined the Board, he was with Troutman Pepper, and a law firm, the law firm Troutman Pepper. After he joined the Board, he moved to DLA Piper. DLA Piper is our new law firm And DLA Piper would not waive conflict basically saying that none of their It's not just David, none of their attorneys are permitted to sit on the boards of publicly traded companies. Speaker 200:33:40So he stepped down because He had to step down. His law firm said that he had to step down. Chop and Pepper did not have that whatever that restriction was on their attorneys. However, I mean, it's sort of a blessing and a curse. It's not a curse at all. Speaker 200:33:56It's actually a blessing. He's staying on as a Board advisor. And he at St. L. A. Speaker 200:34:02Piper is our law firm and David is now off the Board. He is becoming Lead Counsel to the company. So we not only have him as a Board Advisor, we have him as Corporate Counsel. Speaker 500:34:15Okay. Thank you. And I guess the other question, and then much like Michael, I'll kind of get back in line here if there's others that want to ask. But Raymond, you commented on Fulgent, the sort of relationship, and something to be expected towards the end of kind of Q3. Was there any kind of PR made about that? Speaker 500:34:37I don't remember reading or seeing anything about the relationship. And can you just maybe spend a little more Time for adding a little color on what that relationship really is? Speaker 200:34:47Well, it's a very straightforward work for with Flugen, it's Straightforward work for hire. They've asked us to test. Pamela, am I permitted To talk about Flugen or can you address it more directly than I can? Speaker 400:35:07We are not permitted Sure. The details about the project, but as Raymond has shared, it is a fee for service A project to advance the biologics that they are developing. And I would say that that is what we can share at this time. We're hoping that work is complete with the Speaker 200:35:28new Yes. So, Robert, I mean, I think we sorry, Pamela, go ahead. Speaker 400:35:33No, I was just going to say that as work is complete, we would be able to share outcomes, but that would have to be Determines when the project is complete. Speaker 200:35:45Yes. So Robert, I know what you're asking and this is Sort of the bane of our existence as we can say we're working with people, we can't tell you what we're doing. But the fact of the matter is we have a contract with Flugen. It is moving forward. We're doing something that's fairly novel with them and it is progressing and there is an endpoint to it. Speaker 200:36:06That endpoint could be as early as the Q3, seeing the Q3. There are 2 other contracts with 2 other companies That we're working on that are also on the formulation solubility side, that have not yet begun, but The project plan or the plan itself for the work that we've done are in process. So those three things are going on simultaneously or in parallel anyway. Speaker 500:36:35Okay. Thank you. I'll get back in line in case somebody else wants to ask a question. Operator00:36:59There are no further questions at this time. One second. Our next question comes from Michael Broadbent, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:37:15Ray, Bob, I just had one quick follow-up. Do we have any insight on short term, the next quarter, next 6 months For revenue growth, for POAI, are we expecting more of the same? Given the current financials, are we I'll grab that. George, let me start with So Michael, it's let me say this, the Revenue potential for the next 6 months is certainly greater than what we've done and certainly greater than what we've done last year. Raymond and Pamela have already indicated that we have 3 fee for service contracts. Speaker 300:38:05Those Our billable or invoiceable, if you will, at the end of the project or upon delivery and that revenue is recognized at that time. So we are very hopeful that we're going to be able to show that within the course of this fiscal year. Additionally, we did not do as well. I know that Skyline is not a high measure of where we're going in the company, but we did not So any machines this past quarter, which is why we were a little lower in our current revenue stream. But I will and I'm very happy to announce that Skyline has made an agreement in Canada and we have just signed on with a system that has 20 hospitals. Speaker 300:38:54That revenue will be coming in, in the next 6 months or less and will bolster our ability to break in cash and to Assist in the flow of expenses that go out towards Pedal and any of the other projects we're working on. And So I do think that we'll be moving up. I think the other thing, Michael, that you have to understand, we talk about breakeven. The first thing we need for breakeven Is revenue and that's what we're working towards. That's what we're trying to gain. Speaker 300:39:24The biggest area for that of course is petal And Petal takes some time. And as you just heard, Petal has milestones and also has passive revenue In the future with potential percentage from drug discovery. So this is not going to happen in the next 8 or 9 months and other contracts We're going to have to fill that void. Meanwhile, we are working very, very hard at closing deals similar to the ones that we have with CRH, So that we can move ahead and advance that revenue, speed it up, if you will, and start seeing that effect during the course of next year and the year after. And that's where you're going to start seeing the type of revenue that differentiates predictive oncology from where we are now. Operator00:40:22Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Raymond Meneer, CEO for closing comments. Speaker 200:40:33Thank you very much. I appreciate it. So that is this conversation does conclude the call for today. So Well, we hope that you take away from this call that we're really very motivated And frankly, very excited about the direction we're going. I know that the current investor has been very patient, if not Impatient with some things, but very patient waiting for us to sort of break out of the gate here. Speaker 200:41:08So everything that you heard today is Setting the company up for the next year to 2 years. And obviously, many of you who are on the phone right now, on the call right now, some of you have called me personally, called us personally. And you know that you can always reach out and ask more specific questions. I know this isn't perfect on you to do that. But we will continue to keep you informed. Speaker 200:41:34We will continue to make announcements. I know that everyone wants to hear good PR and no one wants to give more give PR more than we do. And so we look forward to doing that. So thank you all for your support and I look forward to our second quarter update in August and wish you all a good day. Thank you. Operator00:41:57This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPredictive Oncology Q1 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Predictive Oncology Earnings HeadlinesPathfinder Cell Therapy (OTCMKTS:PFND) vs. Predictive Oncology (NASDAQ:POAI) Head to Head ContrastApril 29, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comPredictive Oncology develops new approach to identifying viable abandoned drugsApril 16, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comGold Hits New Highs as Global Markets SpiralWhen Trump took office in 2017, gold was just $1,100 an ounce. By the time he left, it had soared to $1,839. Now… as new tariffs take effect, gold is breaking records again. 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It provides various solutions for the oncology drug development. The company, through the integration of scientific rigor and machine learning, has developed the ability to advance molecules into medicine by introducing human diversity earlier into the discovery process with the pairing of artificial intelligence and the biobank of approximately 150K tumor samples. It operates through four segments: Helomics, zPREDICTA, Soluble, and Skyline. The Helomics segment provides services that include the application of AI, collaboration projects, and clinical testing. The zPREDICTA segment develops organ-specific disease models that provide 3D reconstruction of human tissues representing each disease state and mimicking drug response for testing of anticancer agents. The Soluble segment provides services using a self-contained automated system that conducts self-interaction chromatography screens using additives and excipients included in protein formulations resulting in soluble and physically stable formulations for biologics. This segment also offers protein stability analysis services; protein solubility kits that allow rapid identification of soluble formulations; and proprietary technologies for bacterial endotoxin detection and removal. The Skyline segment provides STREAMWAY System, a wall-mounted fully automated system, which virtually eliminates exposure to blood, irrigation fluid, and other infectious fluids found in the healthcare environment. The company was formerly known as Precision Therapeutics Inc. and changed its name to Predictive Oncology Inc. in June 2019. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask your questions. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:21And now, I would like to hand over the conference to your speaker today, Mr. Glenn Garmont, Investor Relations. Mr. Garmont, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Welcome and thank you everyone for dialing into the Predictive Oncology Q1 2023 earnings call. First, you will hear from our Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board, Raymond Vineri Then our Chief Financial Officer, Bob Myers, will review our financials. Finally, Doctor. Pamela Busch, our Chief Business Officer, We'll join Raymond and Bob to answer any questions that you may have. Certain matters discussed during this call contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:00These forward looking statements reflect our current expectations and projections about future events and are subject to substantial risks, uncertainties and assumptions about our operations and the investments we make. All statements other than statements of historical facts Included in the call regarding our strategy, future operations, future financial position, future revenue and financial performance, Projected costs, prospects, plans and objectives of management are forward looking statements. The words anticipate, believe, Estimate, expect, intend, may, plan, would, target and similar expressions are intended to identify Forward looking statements, although not all forward looking statements contain these identifying words. Our actual future performance may materially differ from that contemplated by the forward looking statements as a result of a variety of factors, including, among other things, factors Just under the heading Risk Factors in our filings with the SEC. Except as expressly required by law, the company disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:09And now, I would like to turn the call over to Raymond Vineri, our Chief Executive Officer. Raymond? Speaker 200:02:16Duane, thank you very much and good afternoon everyone. So as many of you already know, when I accepted the opportunity to serve as Chief Executive Officer of Predictive Oncology in November of last year. I did so because I recognized the enormous Currently applying artificial intelligence to drug discovery. These assets not only include our proprietary patient Centric discovery platform called Pedal and our computational research engine called Core, C O R E, which by the way was developed by a brilliant computational biologist at the Center For Computational Biology at Carnegie Mellon University, but also our comprehensive biobank of more than 150,000 heterogeneous tumor samples and more than 200,000 pathology slides, all of which are currently being digitized and curated for both clinical utility and drug discovery. And I should say that the word heterogeneous is a very important term. Speaker 200:03:32Even though many patients are diagnosed with the same type of cancer, each of those tumors respond differently to particular cancer therapies. Each tumor and every response is unique. Understanding that heterogeneity is invaluable along the continuum of drug discovery through drug development. These dry lab assets, our assets, that those being Pedal and Core, Together with our own wet lab capabilities in a CLIA certified facility allow for both in silico computer modeling and bench level laboratory experimentation. By predicting clinical success or failure early in the drug discovery process And by introducing the very human element of heterogeneity far earlier than previously thought possible, We offer biopharmaceutical companies and drug developers a persuasive and multifaceted value proposition that includes: First, the mitigation of clinical risk at the most critical stage of drug discovery. Speaker 200:04:412nd, by identifying and validating drug targets sooner, thereby avoiding unnecessary trials that are likely to fail to expand the drug development pipeline and third, by accelerating early stage discovery, replenishing pipeline And truncating clinical development, the patent life of these drugs post commercialization has extended and expanded. Prior to the application of artificial intelligence to the methodology of drug discovery, drug relied entirely on the successful outcome of very large, extremely expensive and highly speculative clinical trials to determine If a tumor type will respond to a certain compound, as we all know, the failure rate across the industry is staggering. It is estimated that as many as 95% of drug candidates that enter clinical trials will fail and never be developed. Our value proposition is this. By utilizing our Pedal platform, our partners essentially have the ability with much lower financial risk and therefore a much greater likelihood of commercial success. Speaker 200:06:13We have Subsequently repositioned Predictable Oncology as a science driven company that is enabled by artificial intelligence. And given this important distinction, we have been able to differentiate ourselves in the market. I am pleased with the progress that we are making, which in my view seems to indicate that what we do and how we do it is resonating with commercial drug developers as well as academic and research institutions. As we continue down this path, we are earning visibility and credibility, which is both telling and rewarding. And as momentum grows, we are very well positioned to participate in the $1,000,000,000 Artificial Intelligence drug discovery market that is projected to grow annually at a compound rate of more than 30%. Speaker 200:07:10For the benefit of those who may be new to our story, please allow me to step back for a moment and give you a high level overview of our Pedal Pedal is not just one thing. Pedal is several interrelated things Functioning in unison. Pedal is the application of artificial intelligence as a tool that is directed by rigorous scientific experimentation conducted in our laboratory, which is informed by the most Significant resource at our disposal, a biobank of more than 150,000 tumor samples. These three things comprise the Pedal platform. And to be clear, when I say artificial intelligence, I am referring specifically to active learning or machine learning, which is also a key differentiator for us. Speaker 200:08:07A simple way to think about artificial intelligence is this. AI is a process that mimics human thought. It is programmed to match The intelligence and capabilities of human thinking that is to reason artificially, hence the term artificial intelligence. Machine learning on the other hand actually has the capacity to make predictions or decisions based upon data. It is a very sophisticated form of statistical analysis. Speaker 200:08:39It makes predictions based upon information That humans, which in our case are scientists, have provided that is supervised, not programmed, that is active, not static. The more data or information that we feed into the system, the more the system is able to make accurate predictions based upon that data. It is something that learns by iteration, hence the term machine learning. Our Pedal platform is essentially supervised machine learning driven by scientific experimentation conducted in our own laboratory And informed by a biobank of 150,000 tumor samples, we conduct laboratory experiments to validate those in silico analyses to prove or disprove the viability of drug targets Scientifically, not just statistically. This is our value proposition. Speaker 200:09:39This is what sets us apart from all other AI Drug Discovery Companies. The significance of this methodology, I believe, Continues to be misunderstood or perhaps underappreciated by analysts, investors and the market in general, That we are not an artificial intelligence company, but that we utilize our own proprietary machine learning capabilities in a way that cannot be duplicated elsewhere precisely because it is primarily driven by scientific rigor, Not just algorithmic programming, it is informed by testing actual heterogeneous human tumor samples Retreating from our own biobank, then validated experimentally in our own laboratory. Lastly, it is equally important to understand that Pedal has been scientifically and technically tested, validated and verified. Petal is able to predict with 92% accuracy whether a tumor sample respond to a certain drug compound or not. And in so doing, Petal is able to inform the selection of drug tumor type combinations For subsequent in vitro testing and facilitating gono go decisions before investing in Costly and time consuming later stage in vivo human trials, Pedal is a decision support tool. Speaker 200:11:10It answers scientific questions and clarifies scientific decision making. A very significant milestone that occurred during the first Quarter this year was the announcement that we have partnered with Cancer Research Horizon, CRH. CRH is the world's largest private funder of cancer research. I want to repeat this point to emphasize the significance of this collaboration. DRH is the single Largest private funder of cancer research in the world. Speaker 200:11:47CRH has chosen to partner with Predictive Oncology to utilize our Pedal platform to identify the most suitable population of patients for the further development of their compounds. Why? Because we can preemptively screen for patient heterogeneity before ever conducting a single clinical trial. And to be even more specific, we have partnered with CRH to evaluate preclinically certain drug inhibitors for the purpose of determining which cancer types and patient populations are most likely to respond to treatment with these compounds. To give you an idea of the breadth, depth and impact of Cancer Research Horizons on drug discovery and development globally, Here are a few statistics. Speaker 200:12:40DRH has access to a network of more than 4,000 of the world's leading cancer researchers. They spend upwards of $370,000,000 annually on cancer research. They generate in excess of $647,000,000 in revenue from royalties and intellectual property alone. They have provided critical support that has launched 11 cancer therapies currently on market. They are currently sponsoring an additional 160 compounds. Speaker 200:13:19The portfolio of spin out companies have secured investments in excess of $2,800,000,000 So while we were not able to disclose the specific compounds or mention a specific dollar value related to this relationship when it was first announced in March, We can say that this partnership provides for substantial development milestones and sales related royalty payments over time. Through this one strategic relationship, we have exponentially expanded our reach into the oncologic drug development community and By virtue of the collaboration itself, have the potential to impact the most critical stage of early drug discovery in a way that has never been done before. In February, we also announced the partnership with SeverGenics to develop the first ever genomics based approach to precision radiation therapy, utilizing artificial intelligence, which we believe has the potential to revolutionize the field of radiation oncology. Today, Radiation therapy or RT is prescribed and delivered using a one size fits all approach where all tumors are treated empirically, if not uniformly. We believe that the next and most Significant paradigm shift in the field of radiation oncology will come from exploiting tumor genomics to personalize and optimize The radiation therapy prescription dose and to identify drug targets for the development of radio synthesizers and radio protectors for biopharma and industry. Speaker 200:15:11FibroGenics' Precision Genomics radiation therapy platform provides the first Clinically validated approach to optimizing the radiation therapy prescription dose for each individual patient. It is personalized medicine. If we take this one step further and we apply artificial intelligence and machine learning to the equation, the possibility exists to discover medicinal radiosensitizers and radio protectors, which might lead to the repurposing of existing compounds or the development So an entirely new class of drugs. We mentioned this in our last call, but it certainly bears repeating. Sebergenx is a spin out of the Moffett Cancer Center, where the Sebergenx precision genomics platform is currently being used in a Phase 2 prospective clinical trial for triple negative breast cancer. Speaker 200:16:12This is the first ever genomics approach Precision radiation therapy. This is not hypothetical and it is clinically actionable. To put this in context, there are approximately 1,900,000 newly diagnosed cancer patients In the United States every year and potentially more than 1,000,000 of those patients may be treated with radiotherapy. If the overall survival rate of those patients treated with radiotherapy is improved by just 4%, That translates into 40,000 lives, which is almost equivalent to eradicating breast cancer. Needless to say, we are very excited about potentially playing a role in improving clinical outcomes of cancer patients treated with radiation therapy. Speaker 200:17:07So in essence, predictive oncology and SeverGenics have entered into a scientific collaboration Leverage the computational capacity of our Pedal platform and the diagnostic capabilities of the SevaGenx Precision Genomics Radiation platform. The impact of these two technologies, they extend well beyond clinical utility to include drug discovery, Drug repurposing and screening for radio sensitivity or radio resistance. Based upon initial conversations With NASA, for example, the ability to develop the 1st ever genomics based artificial intelligence approach To identify novel radio protectors is viewed as a significant benefit to aerospace in general and the astronaut core in particular. This potentially extends to other government agencies or industries, including the Department of Defense And Nuclear Energy. Keep in mind that predictive oncology provides services along the entire continuum of drug discovery through drug development. Speaker 200:18:18While the Pedal platform, for instance, focuses exclusively on drug discovery, Our formulations and solubility capabilities address drug development. So in addition to existing contracts Biotech and Biopharma Companies. Predictive Oncology recently announced a new collaboration with Flugen Inc. On the next generation vaccine related to respiratory diseases. And in addition, we are finalizing 2 quite novel formulation proposals for pharmaceutical companies, both of which will likely begin before the end of Q3. Speaker 200:18:56Most recently, we announced the extension of a contract with Integra Therapeutics, a very well respected leader in the development of next generation gene writing tools to advance gene therapies. Through this collaboration, predictive oncology will utilize our proprietary High throughput self interaction chromatography, which we refer to as HSC, to rapidly and accurately measure biomolecular interactions that assist pharmaceutical and biotech companies in the workflow and process of drug development. Taken together, we believe that these initial collaborations speak to the broad applicability of our suite of technologies. Before I turn the call over to Bob, I would like to conclude by reviewing some rather noteworthy additions to our Scientific Advisory Board and Board of Directors, as well as the formation of a Business Advisory Board. Beginning with our Scientific Advisory Board, We are pleased to welcome Christophe Reinhart, PhD MBA to our team. Speaker 200:20:07Christophe Brings vast experience in oncology translational research, drug development and innovation. For more than a decade, Doctor. Reinhart worked at Eli Lilly where he was responsible for strategy and implementation of translational research for its Portfolio of Oncology Assets and Biomarkers. As Acting Chief Scientific Officer for Cellphenomics, He now plays an instrumental role in determining what types of novel drugs and drug combinations might be beneficial to future cancer patients with solid tumors. So this experience, Christophe's experience, obviously It's both timely and critical in light of the strategic direction in which predictive oncology is now moving. Speaker 200:20:59Christophe joins Doctor. Mark Melandro and Doctor. Robert Murphy on the Scientific Advisory Board. Mark Melandro is Vice President of Operations for Science at the Chan Zuckerberg Initiatives and a very well respected expert in genomics, Molecular Biology, Biochemistry and Bioengineering. Robert Murphy is a pioneer in the field of machine learning and biological analytics. Speaker 200:21:26He was founding head of the computational biology department at Carnegie Mellon University and led the development of our core machine learning technology that powers predictive oncology's petal platform. These industry thought leaders comprise what I consider to be a world class Scientific Advisory Board and individually and built together, We are already benefiting from their insights and contributions. We have also convened a business advisory board, which Like the Scientific Advisory Board, will be comprised of relevant business leaders and key thought leaders that will work directly with senior management, but also interact with the Board of Directors and the Scientific Advisory Boards. The names of those advisors will be announced in the coming weeks. And lastly, we recently announced that Veena Rao, PhD, MBA, He's also joined the Board of Directors of Predictive Oncology. Speaker 200:22:31Doctor. Rao is a pharma, biotech and digital health veteran With extensive experience launching products and building commercial organizations in the pre launch and early launch phases. Doctor. Rao currently serves as Chief Business Officer of Portal Instruments, where she leads the identification, Evaluation and negotiation of partnership opportunities for that company and heads a team of science and business professionals to guide the company's short term and long term commercial strategies. Doctor. Speaker 200:23:06Rao will replace David Smith, He is stepping down as Director, but will remain as an advisor to the Board and serve as Lead Corporate Counsel for the company. At this point, I will turn the call over to Bob Myers, our CFO. Bob? Speaker 300:23:23Thank you, Raymond. We ended the Q1 2023 with cash and cash equivalents of $18,600,000 as compared to $22,100,000 as of December 31, 2022. In addition, We have $1,800,000 outstanding warrants that represent an additional source of capital. We have No debt, so our balance sheet is very strong. As of March 31, 2023, shareholders' equity stood at $18,600,000 as compared to $21,800,000 as of December 31, 2022. Speaker 300:24:08We recorded Q1 2023 revenue of $200,000 as compared to $300,000 for the Q1 of 2022. Our gross margin in the Q1 of 2023 was 50% as compared to 65% for the Q1 of 2022. Operating for the Q1 of 2022. Net cash used in operating activities during the Q1 of 2023 was $3,400,000 as compared to $3,100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. Net cash used in investing activities during the Q1 of 2023 was $100,000 as compared to $100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. Speaker 300:25:11Net cash provided in financing activities During the Q1 of 2023 was 0 as compared to $100,000 for the comparable period in 2022. That concludes our financial summary. You can find additional details in our 8 ks containing our earnings press release as well as our 10 Q, which is on file with the SEC and also available on our website. So with that, I'm going to turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. And as a reminder, Doctor. Speaker 300:25:46Pamela Busch, our Chief Business Officer Is also available for this segment of the call. Operator00:25:55Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and Thank you. Our first question comes from Michael Broadbent, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:26:54Hi, Ray and Bob. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:26:58Yes. Yes, Michael, I can hear you. Speaker 300:27:00Hi, guys. I appreciate you setting up this call, obviously. I actually have 2 questions if there's time. If not, I'll get back in line. The first question really comes down to the financials. Speaker 300:27:12This company has put its shareholders through quite a bit over the past 2 years and cash, Cash equivalents decreasing, total liabilities are up, revenues decreased significantly. ZPredict isn't going anywhere. I know the focus is on petal core, the biobank and other assets, but what is the timeline for I'm going to ask this again, what is the timeline And with the cancer horizons, how many molecules have you looked at yet under that partnership? Speaker 200:27:48Pamela, did you want to address that or would you like me to address Sure. Speaker 300:27:54I Speaker 400:27:58can talk about the compounds. So, thank you so much for the question. We are working in the first project with the Cancer Research UK. The number of molecules is irrelevant because we can actually Peloton actually works with hundreds of molecules at the same time. We are not at liberty to disclose how many molecules they have because we've talked about what is the target And the program that we're working on, so I don't want to disclose that that is confidential, but we are working on the first program with them and we expect that this is going to expand 2 other targets within their pipeline. Speaker 300:28:38When you say the first program, when will that program complete? And I guess because predictive isn't going to make money unless milestones are achieved. I guess what we want to know is, is the program successful or not? Speaker 400:28:53We do not have the answer to that yet. We have not completed the program yet. We are expecting it similar to the proof of concept to be about 12 weeks of actual testing. And then there is the analysis of the data. So we are expecting that before the end of Q3, we're going to have the results. Speaker 400:29:15But that all depends because we have to follow the science. Speaker 300:29:19Okay. And then my follow-up question if I have time for Ray and Bob. There's concerns of lawsuits from, I believe, Richard Gabriel and Other employees that were previously with Predictive Oncology subsidiaries, can you address those lawsuits? And any ongoing process, is that going to affect us further? Raymond, may I take that? Speaker 200:29:49Yes, go ahead, Juan. Sure. Speaker 300:29:52Michael, first off, it's a singular lawsuit and it does not involve Raymond Richard Gabriel. It's Tony Fudeikis. Tony Fudeikis. Yes, I'm sorry. Right. Speaker 300:30:02That's all right. Not a problem. This is a recent lawsuit. And 1st and most obviously, I cannot comment on the lawsuit, where it stands or how we are defending the lawsuit. I will say that there is a very strong commitment on our part to put this to bed And that there will be very little, if any impact to the investors and to the company as a result of this lawsuit. Speaker 300:30:32Okay. Thanks, Bob. Operator00:30:37Thank you. The next question comes from Rob Antonia, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:30:48Yes. Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the call guys. Actually just one follow on to sort of I guess point of clarification for Michael's question. Can you confirm that there is in fact at least 1 compound that is physically being worked on At some point in time, when it's complete, there will be some kind of milestone payment made upon successful completion of that project, if you will. Speaker 400:31:13I can so thank you for the question. Yes, I can confirm that we have at least 1 compound that we're working on. If the compound is successful to continue to move in development, that is when the financial terms that we have shared And milestones that's when that will become effective. But yes, we do have at least 1 compound. Speaker 500:31:37Okay. Thank you. And that sort of I guess not to hold you to it, but as you said, based on the science, etcetera, the target is end of 3rd quarter ish To determine whether that is successful or not? Speaker 400:31:52That is absolutely everybody's goal. And like I said, it can be sooner, but it can also be later depending on the science as we're going to follow it. But expecting that it is going to It is going to be similar to the proof of concept that we have shared in the past. That is what we're estimating to be. Yes. Speaker 500:32:11Thank you, Pamela. So just I had just two questions. First was really just more point of clarity on In October, there was a big deal with David Smith being brought on As a director with a lot of value he was going to be providing, 6 months later, he's sort of stepped down and been replaced by Doctor. Rao, who seems very, very qualified, just curious if you could share as to the rationale and reasoning as to why David has sort of stepped down and does he maintain his sort of, I guess, stock that he's been he received at point of Being appointed as a Director. Speaker 200:32:54Right. Thank you, Robert. This is Raymond. That's a very straightforward answer. Last part first. Speaker 200:33:01Yes, whatever stock he was awarded while he was on the Board, he maintains. The reason he stepped down is Very simple. When David joined the Board, he was with Troutman Pepper, and a law firm, the law firm Troutman Pepper. After he joined the Board, he moved to DLA Piper. DLA Piper is our new law firm And DLA Piper would not waive conflict basically saying that none of their It's not just David, none of their attorneys are permitted to sit on the boards of publicly traded companies. Speaker 200:33:40So he stepped down because He had to step down. His law firm said that he had to step down. Chop and Pepper did not have that whatever that restriction was on their attorneys. However, I mean, it's sort of a blessing and a curse. It's not a curse at all. Speaker 200:33:56It's actually a blessing. He's staying on as a Board advisor. And he at St. L. A. Speaker 200:34:02Piper is our law firm and David is now off the Board. He is becoming Lead Counsel to the company. So we not only have him as a Board Advisor, we have him as Corporate Counsel. Speaker 500:34:15Okay. Thank you. And I guess the other question, and then much like Michael, I'll kind of get back in line here if there's others that want to ask. But Raymond, you commented on Fulgent, the sort of relationship, and something to be expected towards the end of kind of Q3. Was there any kind of PR made about that? Speaker 500:34:37I don't remember reading or seeing anything about the relationship. And can you just maybe spend a little more Time for adding a little color on what that relationship really is? Speaker 200:34:47Well, it's a very straightforward work for with Flugen, it's Straightforward work for hire. They've asked us to test. Pamela, am I permitted To talk about Flugen or can you address it more directly than I can? Speaker 400:35:07We are not permitted Sure. The details about the project, but as Raymond has shared, it is a fee for service A project to advance the biologics that they are developing. And I would say that that is what we can share at this time. We're hoping that work is complete with the Speaker 200:35:28new Yes. So, Robert, I mean, I think we sorry, Pamela, go ahead. Speaker 400:35:33No, I was just going to say that as work is complete, we would be able to share outcomes, but that would have to be Determines when the project is complete. Speaker 200:35:45Yes. So Robert, I know what you're asking and this is Sort of the bane of our existence as we can say we're working with people, we can't tell you what we're doing. But the fact of the matter is we have a contract with Flugen. It is moving forward. We're doing something that's fairly novel with them and it is progressing and there is an endpoint to it. Speaker 200:36:06That endpoint could be as early as the Q3, seeing the Q3. There are 2 other contracts with 2 other companies That we're working on that are also on the formulation solubility side, that have not yet begun, but The project plan or the plan itself for the work that we've done are in process. So those three things are going on simultaneously or in parallel anyway. Speaker 500:36:35Okay. Thank you. I'll get back in line in case somebody else wants to ask a question. Operator00:36:59There are no further questions at this time. One second. Our next question comes from Michael Broadbent, a Private Investor. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:37:15Ray, Bob, I just had one quick follow-up. Do we have any insight on short term, the next quarter, next 6 months For revenue growth, for POAI, are we expecting more of the same? Given the current financials, are we I'll grab that. George, let me start with So Michael, it's let me say this, the Revenue potential for the next 6 months is certainly greater than what we've done and certainly greater than what we've done last year. Raymond and Pamela have already indicated that we have 3 fee for service contracts. Speaker 300:38:05Those Our billable or invoiceable, if you will, at the end of the project or upon delivery and that revenue is recognized at that time. So we are very hopeful that we're going to be able to show that within the course of this fiscal year. Additionally, we did not do as well. I know that Skyline is not a high measure of where we're going in the company, but we did not So any machines this past quarter, which is why we were a little lower in our current revenue stream. But I will and I'm very happy to announce that Skyline has made an agreement in Canada and we have just signed on with a system that has 20 hospitals. Speaker 300:38:54That revenue will be coming in, in the next 6 months or less and will bolster our ability to break in cash and to Assist in the flow of expenses that go out towards Pedal and any of the other projects we're working on. And So I do think that we'll be moving up. I think the other thing, Michael, that you have to understand, we talk about breakeven. The first thing we need for breakeven Is revenue and that's what we're working towards. That's what we're trying to gain. Speaker 300:39:24The biggest area for that of course is petal And Petal takes some time. And as you just heard, Petal has milestones and also has passive revenue In the future with potential percentage from drug discovery. So this is not going to happen in the next 8 or 9 months and other contracts We're going to have to fill that void. Meanwhile, we are working very, very hard at closing deals similar to the ones that we have with CRH, So that we can move ahead and advance that revenue, speed it up, if you will, and start seeing that effect during the course of next year and the year after. And that's where you're going to start seeing the type of revenue that differentiates predictive oncology from where we are now. Operator00:40:22Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Raymond Meneer, CEO for closing comments. Speaker 200:40:33Thank you very much. I appreciate it. So that is this conversation does conclude the call for today. So Well, we hope that you take away from this call that we're really very motivated And frankly, very excited about the direction we're going. I know that the current investor has been very patient, if not Impatient with some things, but very patient waiting for us to sort of break out of the gate here. Speaker 200:41:08So everything that you heard today is Setting the company up for the next year to 2 years. And obviously, many of you who are on the phone right now, on the call right now, some of you have called me personally, called us personally. And you know that you can always reach out and ask more specific questions. I know this isn't perfect on you to do that. But we will continue to keep you informed. Speaker 200:41:34We will continue to make announcements. I know that everyone wants to hear good PR and no one wants to give more give PR more than we do. And so we look forward to doing that. So thank you all for your support and I look forward to our second quarter update in August and wish you all a good day. Thank you. Operator00:41:57This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by