NASDAQ:FRPT Freshpet Q1 2023 Earnings Report $76.36 +3.64 (+5.01%) Closing price 05/2/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$76.63 +0.27 (+0.35%) As of 05/2/2025 07:56 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Freshpet EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.52Consensus EPS -$0.40Beat/MissMissed by -$0.12One Year Ago EPS-$0.40Freshpet Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$167.50 millionExpected Revenue$166.97 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$530.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+26.70%Freshpet Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/8/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateMonday, May 8, 2023Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsFreshpet's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Freshpet Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 17 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Freshpet's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I will now turn the conference over to Jeff Sonnek. Operator00:00:23Mr. Sonnek, you may now begin. Speaker 100:00:27Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Freshpet's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. On today's call are Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer And Todd Kunfer, Chief Financial Officer. Scott Morris, Chief Operating Officer will also be available for Q and A. Before we begin, please remember that during the course of this call, management may make forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Speaker 100:00:52These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in these forward looking statements. Please refer to the company's annual report on Form 10 ks filed with the SEC And the company's press release issued today for a detailed discussion of the risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in any forward looking statements made today. Please note that on today's call, management will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA among others. While the company believes these non GAAP financial measures provide useful information for investors, The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to today's press release for how management defines such non GAAP measures. Speaker 100:01:49A reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP and limitations associated with such non GAAP measures. Finally, the company has produced a presentation that contains many of the key metrics That presentation can be found on the company's investor website. Management's commentary will not specifically walk through the presentation on the call, but rather The summary of the results and guidance we will discuss today. Additionally, we'd ask that your questions remain focused on the performance of the business and the results in the quarter. Management will not discuss or speculate on other topics beyond what is being reported here today. Speaker 100:02:29With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer, Billy? Speaker 200:02:35Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. The message I would like you to take away from today's call We are making the steady progress on the key drivers of cost and margins that we committed to deliver this year in the fresh future plan, while still delivering strong growth that is in line with our long term growth plan. This is due to strong operating performance by our teams in Bethlehem and Ennis And another indication that the investment that we made in the Freshpet Academy is paying dividends throughout the P and L. I will share a few highlights of our performance and a few thoughts on the outlook for the balance of the year, and then Todd will provide more detail on the quarter. The highlights are: First, strong net sales growth. Speaker 200:03:18We delivered 27% net sales growth in the Q1. This was in line with the guidance we shared for the quarter And puts us on track to deliver our 2023 plan. Nielsen measured consumption was up 29% in the quarter, But the year ago quarter included some trade inventory refill, so our net sales growth was less than the consumption growth. The consumption growth was comprised of 14% volume growth and 15% price mix growth. We will be lapping significant trade inventory refill in the year ago through much of this year We won't get nearly as much benefit from pricing this year as we did last year, but our growth appears to be strong, particularly with our heaviest users. Speaker 200:03:582nd, adjusted EBITDA ahead of guidance. As we discussed on our last call, 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA is expected to be weighed down by the heavy start up costs in Ennis and the start up of our Dallas, D. C. I'm very happy to say that both of those initiatives were completed As strong performance on quality yielded improved gross margin and enabled higher fill rates that reduced logistics costs. Quality costs came in at 5.3 percent of net sales, down from 6.1% in the year ago quarter. Speaker 200:04:38And logistics costs came in at 9.3 percent of sales, down from 9.9% in the year ago, despite the start up costs associated with the Dallas DC. These are both key operational areas that our team has been focused on, and we are very encouraged by this progress as well as the opportunities it provides for continued upside as we execute our margin improvement strategy. 3rd, More effective balance between commodities and pricing. Input cost as a percent of net sales came in at 34.1%, which only reflects a partial impact from the February price increase. Looking ahead to Q2, we expect to reduce our input costs as a percent of net sales further. Speaker 200:05:21For perspective, our Q1 performance is 180 basis points better than the 35.9% we experienced for the full year of 2022 and 200 basis points better than the 36.1 percent in the Q1 of 2022. Many retailers did not reflect the higher pricing on shelf until late in the quarter, but so far, it appears that consumers are accepting the pricing well. 4th, Enes Startup. The Enes Kitchen is off to a good start due in large part to the training and preparation of the incredible team that is supporting its build out And commercialization. We are now shipping product off both the bag line and roll line and are capable of producing a wide range of SKUs on those lines. Speaker 200:06:05We are still ramping up production on the Bagline, but once that is completed, it will be yet another critical achievement that will unlock significant logistics savings. We will be able to ship the vast majority of our product assortment out of the Dallas DC using locally produced product. Further, Our assessment of the quality of the product produced in Ennis is that it is every bit as good as the product we produce in Bethlehem, and we are doing it with fewer people Due to the significant automation that we have integrated into the facility's design. 5th, strong customer support. Now that we have restored customer service to a high 90s fill rate, our customers have begun to invest heavily in incremental fridge placements. Speaker 200:06:48In Q1, we added 369 net new stores, upgraded 241 stores to larger fridges And place 2nd or 3rd chillers in 685 stores. And there are many more of those coming later this year. We are well on track towards our goal of having 1,700,000 cubic feet of space at retail by the end of this year. And 6th, household penetration growth. Household penetration growth was 7% in the past 52 weeks and buying rate growth was 28% Based on numerator data, what is most encouraging is that our number of heavy and super heavy users grew 18% over that time period Despite the 20 plus percent increase in pricing, we believe this reflects solid loyalty amongst our heaviest users or HIPPOs, High profit pet owning households and the impact of our Flip the Bowl effort that is designed to increase the number of people who use Freshpet as the main meal. Speaker 200:07:45We now have 3,300,000 Hippos in our franchise. Looking forward, I expect to see continued improvement in our operations as the year progresses. We have momentum and while the intangible benefits of a more experienced and better trained team are increasingly clear to us, We are excited to see them turn into tangible benefits and show up in our financial performance. We have sizable opportunities to recover the efficiencies we lost Over the last 3 years, and our reinvigorated operations team is relentlessly focused on the biggest of those, quality, input costs and logistics. Although each of these categories has its own timetable for realizing the benefits, we have the critical talent in place and the progress is increasingly obvious to our team With every passing day. Speaker 200:08:31Additionally, the key elements of our marketing model are being fully deployed for the first time in several years. We have new advertising on the air at heavy media weight that resonates with consumers. Customers are placing new fridges at the strongest rate ever, And we have a large number of new products in distribution or scheduled to ship in the coming months. We are also updating our packaging graphics for the first time in several years, And the premarket testing has shown they elicit an extremely favorable response. Now let me turn it over to Todd for the details on the Q1 results. Speaker 200:09:04Todd? Speaker 300:09:05Thank you, Billy, and good morning, everyone. As Billy said, we are off to a really good start this year. Let me break it down a bit further. Net sales came in at $167,500,000 up 27% versus a year ago. Our net pricing was up 14% versus a year ago in the quarter. Speaker 300:09:25That will drop to 8% in Q2 as we lap the large price increase We took in February of 2022. The growth was broad based across channels, including our pet specialty business, which saw consumption growth rebound, increasing 19% in the quarter versus prior year. Adjusted gross margin was 38.5% in Q1, slightly above the year ago and above our base expectation. This improved performance was due to a variety of factors, including increased pricing, improvements in the cost of quality and a strong start up in Ennis, all aspects of our operational improvement plan that our team is focused on. We expect these elements will continue to improve as we move forward and drive continued margin improvement. Speaker 300:10:15Now that we are shipping product from the bag line in Ennis, we are no longer capitalizing any start up costs on that line, so they will flow through the P and L in Q2 2 as we ramp up production, but that is putting us on a path to sustained growth, increased resilience and margin expansion. Total adjusted SG and A was 36.7 percent of net sales, down from 38.7% in the year ago quarter. Consistent with our long term trend of gaining scale in G and A, our SG and A costs, excluding media and logistics, We're 11.9 percent of net sales versus 12.5% in the year ago period. We also gained 60 basis points of efficiency improvement in logistics costs versus year ago, largely due to very high fill rates And partially offset by the start up costs related to our Dallas DC. We spent a healthy 15.5% of net sales in media in the quarter, And this was slightly below the 16.3 percent we spent in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:11:24Adjusted EBITDA was $3,000,000 in Q1. That is considerably better than the cadence we had initially provided and was primarily due to the strong operating performance Capital spending in the quarter came in slightly below the most recent expectations at $60,000,000 Largely due to sequencing of some sizable expenses and tenants related to completion of the first production building, The chicken processing facility and the early stages of construction of Phase 2. There is no change in our outlook for capital spending this year, which we continue to project at $240,000,000 Our cash position is very strong. We greatly appreciate the support of our shareholders and other investors who participated in the convertible debt offering we completed in March. After the cost of the capped call option is factored in, we realized net proceeds of $325,000,000 from that offering. Speaker 300:12:27In conjunction with our existing cash reserves, at the end of the quarter, we had $387,000,000 in cash and short term investments. We have invested the funds in a series of conservative interest bearing instruments that will yield interest rates well above the 3% coupon cost These funds are invested across several institutions and in T Bills with a maturity of no greater than 120 days. For the remainder of the year, we expect interest income and interest expense to largely offset each other. We believe that we have adequate cash to fully fund our growth through 2024 and will be cash flow positive in 2026. We also believe that we will have access to traditional non dilutive forms of capital to bridge a gap in 2025 if it occurs. Speaker 300:13:20In terms of the cadence of our business for the balance of 2023, we expect to continue the strong growth we demonstrated in Q1, But the net sales growth will increasingly be driven by volume growth versus pricing growth. At the beginning of Q1, our Nielsen measured volume growth rate was around 12%. By the end of the quarter, it was up to around 16% and growing. We need that to continue to grow into the high We believe our marketing, distribution and innovation programs will deliver that. Q2 and Q3 net sales should have mid-20s growth rates, while the Q4 growth rate will be relatively lower due to the Sizable trade inventory refill in the year ago period. Speaker 300:14:09We expect to see continuing improvement in our operating costs in Q2, particularly in logistics and quality, along with the full benefit of the February price increase. However, we will be absorbing the full operating cost of the NSFAG lines in Q2 and to a lesser extent in the second half, until that line achieves full production later this year. The net result is year over year gross margin headwind due to underutilized capacity, which we expect to cause our Q2 adjusted gross margin to come in slightly below that of Q1 2023's performance of 38.5%. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, our expectation is that Q2 should be similar to that of Q1 on an absolute dollar basis, with the difference in some additional SG and A investments in Q2 offset by the contribution of higher net sales. Looking at the combined quarters of the first half, we expect to be slightly ahead of where we initially projected we would be at the midpoint of the year and confident in our ability to deliver our So we are reaffirming our guidance for the year The call is for net sales of approximately $750,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of at least $50,000,000 In closing, we are very encouraged by the start of the year. Speaker 300:15:33The capability improvements that we announced back in September are driving solid and steady improvement in our operating performance. Further, we are seeing significant operational improvement The investment we made in the Freshpet Academy and the time and money we invested to train the Ennis team during the year prior to the start up of that facility. We are even more encouraged by the magnitude of the opportunities that remain ahead of us. We believe that we are on track to deliver the margin improvements required To deliver the long term margin targets we announced as part of the fresh future plan. The Ennis Kitchen is up and operating on both lines, And that provides us with the capacity needed to support our long term growth, adds resilience to our business and provides significant opportunities for margin expansion. Speaker 300:16:24Further, the improvements we designed into that facility provide the opportunity for efficiency upside versus our long term projection. In total, That leaves us feeling very bullish about our future. That concludes our overview. We will now be glad to take your questions. Speaker 400:16:49Thank Operator00:17:12ask you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Operator00:17:25Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 500:17:29Thank you. Good morning. Speaker 200:17:31Good morning. Speaker 500:17:33Just was wondering if you could unpack the guidance a little bit. You've got A full year top line guide consistent with the Q1, but you have pricing that will a pricing benefit that will moderate over the course of the year. Can you just point to some of what you expect on the volume side in terms of driving that acceleration and what kind of visibility you might have there? Speaker 200:17:56Yes. I'll take a shot at it. As we said in the scripted comments that we've seen the increasing shift Towards volume growth and less on pricing. So we began quarter at Q1 at 12% volume growth and we ended the quarter at 16% And we've seen it continue to grow from there. So by the end of the year, we're expecting that volume growth is going to be the driving the biggest driver of our net sales growth, Because pricing by the end of the year will basically end up accounting for something like 5% in the last quarter. Speaker 200:18:27So you're going to see an increasing shift towards volume and we've already seen it. Speaker 500:18:32And is that helped by the step up in advertising or The distribution gains or just all the above or what's the real key factor there in terms of what accelerates Speaker 200:18:49Yes. Let me just give you my comments. Scott will probably add some color to it. But as we said, the reality is we're now back in business doing business the way we want to. So we've got Full fridges, high fill rates. Speaker 200:19:00We've got a broad assortment of products, advertising on the air at heavyweights, new advertising, better packaging, A lot more stores, a lot more upgraded stores. So, the growth is coming from and will continue to come from Our business model, our marketing model working the way we want it to work. Speaker 400:19:17Yes. I think Billy hit on most of the points, but the I would say the overall model It's continuing to perform and we've got penetration growth. The most interesting aspect, we talked about it at ICR. We introduced this idea like the super heavy heavies or hippos that Billy mentioned in the script. We see really strong growth from that group. Speaker 400:19:38We really, really like that. Those are our core, core consumers. Their buy rate is up substantially. The number of fridges that we'll place this year will be extraordinary. It will be an all time record For the company, the number of fridges in total that we placed this year, which gives us the platform to continue to expand our portfolio and appeal to a larger group of consumers. Speaker 400:19:57So it just feels like Every single thing is hitting on all cylinders and then you couple all of that platform with great, great Advertising that continues to drive record traffic to our website, which we know converts to the store locator, which we know converts to eventual People coming into the brand and it really is all working together and I think we're in a really fortunate position. Speaker 500:20:22Okay. That's great. And just a quick follow-up on the ad spend. Is and sorry if I missed this, I don't know if you said it, but the is the 2nd quarter spending level Similar to the first, how does that play out as far as the trajectory over the course of the year? Speaker 400:20:39Yes. Q2 will be at similar level to Q1 and will be fairly heavily weighted to the front half of the year. I don't know if we've actually split it out that way, but over a little bit over 60% of the advertising will be in the first half of the year, 65% or so. Speaker 300:20:54Yes. Heavy spend in the 1st two quarters, actually Q2 is Projected to be up slightly over Q1, and then it tails down in the second half of the year. But unlike last year where we spent very little in Q4, Our expectation is we will spend at a reasonable amount in Q4 as well. Speaker 500:21:14Okay, great. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:21:16Thank you. Operator00:21:18Our next question is from the line of Brian Spillane with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:21:23Thanks, operator. Good morning, guys. Just two quick ones for me. One, just a clarification on the guidance slide. Adjusted EBITDA 2Q, We're talking that you're expecting to be similar to 1Q in absolute dollars, not year on year growth? Speaker 300:21:38Correct. Speaker 600:21:39Okay. And then, Billy, maybe and Scott, maybe if you guys can just maybe zoom out a little bit. I know there's been some concern just about the household spending, consumer spending being under pressure. And Again, you're now kind of getting back up to the curb. So if you can talk a little bit about just as you're back in the market and your fill rates are better, Just your observations about the consumer, is it more heavy users using the product more? Speaker 600:22:10Is there any barrier to attracting new households? Just How the whole macro environment is playing into your growth expectation as you now are beginning to add more product in the market? Speaker 400:22:24Hey, Brian. So I think that we talk about this a lot and we literally look at it like every of weeks very, very closely. And I think we have pretty extensive data that goes fairly deep down into understanding exactly what the dynamics are. And yes, I mean, there's been There's a lot of discussion in the market around kind of what's going on from a consumer standpoint where there have been people that have They're concerned about the economy. They're concerned about inflation, etcetera. Speaker 400:22:53And I think that we have really been an exception to that case. We have definitely seen some of our kind of weaker non frequent consumers kind of move out, But we have focused on and we started focusing literally in the beginning of the year to make sure that those heavy and those hippo consumers are the ones that are really kind of coming into the And continue to buy us, etcetera. So I think that there has been a lot of discussion around the category level around what's going on. I think that we have been fortunate that We have not really had much impact from that and we feel like we're on a really terrific course for this year and Getting the right types of consumers in, we continue to see interest in the brand and the proposition that we're bringing to market. And also we're always really cognizant Trying to make sure that the entire portfolio has be as affordable and accessible to as many consumers as possible. Speaker 400:23:50And we always are keeping And we continue to do work in that area. Speaker 700:23:55Thank you. Operator00:23:58Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:24:04Good morning and thanks for taking my question. So I was just curious as we look at your gross margins, just I think last quarter you guys indicated that you expect gross margins to be up more than 200 basis points. Curious if you saw the same expectations for the year? Speaker 300:24:18We do at this point. Look, we're really pleased about Q1. Obviously, it came in a bit Higher than our original projection. A little bit of that was timing. We built a little more inventory in Q1 that got capitalized For the quarter, that probably will come back in the Q2. Speaker 300:24:40Look, it's really early. We're off to a great start. And so it's just too hard to call the remainder of the year. So really no change in the expectations at this point, but We're really pleased. Look, Ennis is still ramping up. Speaker 300:24:54We haven't started chicken processing there at that facility yet. So we still got a little bit of wildcard going on, but Feeling really good about the start of the year, Rupesh. Speaker 800:25:03Great. And then maybe just one follow-up question. I know you've launched the fresh pet food subscription with Petco. Just curious how that launch is going at this juncture. I know it's early, just curious if it's already in stores and how that's progressing. Speaker 400:25:15Yes. It's in literally around 300 stores at this point, so it's super early. We've gotten, I think, a really, really High visibility and a really good response from it at this point. It is super early. We're I think we Remain like super enthusiastic about the potential of it, and we will start to support it literally in the next couple of weeks, once we kind of have Everything kind of flattened out and kind of calmed down from a supply chain standpoint with that specific product. Speaker 400:25:45So we'll start to support it then. I think At that point, we'll start to get a real feel for consumer like interest, broad consumer interest and just kind of what type of Size of business, that will be over time. Speaker 800:26:01Great. Thank you. Operator00:26:06Our next question is from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 200:26:15Thanks. Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 900:26:19Just on a pricing Standpoint, understand that you're successfully pushing through this pricing, but maybe you can talk about where you stand in terms of price gaps with The competition, what you expect, the category to do in pricing as costs do come back We'll pull back in the back half of the year and Speaker 1000:26:38we get maybe a more Speaker 1100:26:39a little more promotional environment. Speaker 900:26:41I understand that you have a differentiated product And kibble, but still there is some pricing dynamics between the 2. Speaker 400:26:50Yes. Bill, we've been watching this closely and You could definitely imagine where in certain environments there would be increased spending and promotional Forward activity, we really haven't seen any of that pick up yet. It's definitely possible. And I would say it's actually at this point even been slightly below some traditional levels, historical levels. So I think some of it will come back In the past, that hasn't had a tremendous impact on our business, as you brought up. Speaker 400:27:26I think that it's a pretty rational Appreciate the profitability of the category. And I think that, I think it's going to be rational behavior from pretty much everybody, including the retailers, which will really be the ones to either drive it or suppress it. So I at this point, I mean, it's hard to exactly speculate what could happen later in the year, But I don't see it getting it gets irrational in some categories. I have not seen that in pet over time. Speaker 900:28:03But the price gaps with competition are where you want them to be right now? Speaker 400:28:08Yes. We Like where we are and we're watching that. And I think the biggest thing that we're seeing is what's called out. No matter which way you look Got it. Our volumes continue to grow. Speaker 300:28:21Whether you look at prior periods, literally Speaker 400:28:24from the beginning of the year till now, it's been really, really nice consistent Volume growth. So I'm looking at pounds. And in this case, when there's so much going on with dollars, I'm looking at pounds. If you're increasing pounds and units, You're doing great work in this type of environment. And that's what we're doing. Speaker 400:28:41We've seen the we go back on air. We are completely very, Very low levels of any type of advertising in Q4. We go back on air and we consistently see our pounds continue to progress Through the Q1, which I don't think anyone could have asked for anything better. So I think what the market is telling us is the Price gaps are acceptable like where they are and consumers continue to come into the brand and spend a lot of money with us. Speaker 900:29:08Got it. And then Billy, I know household penetration and markets here are not interchangeable. But Several years ago, the thought was you had kind of low single digit market share in nationwide, but you had Close to 10% in some of the West Coast Albertsons. Now you're talking about household penetration being close to 7%. And I guess just trying to understand, As capacity comes online, where do you think household penetration and market share for that matter can go this year and next? Speaker 900:29:44Is it Are we talking double digits? Are there any barriers? Are there keys to unlocking that such as like more fridges per door or stuff like that? Any color would be great. Speaker 200:29:55Yes. Yes. It's one of the issues that we watch very closely. Obviously, with all the rapid price increases that have gone into the market, what you've seen is The occasional user or the person who views us is more of an indulgence or an extra as opposed to the person who uses us as the main meal Has been a little bit less willing to bring on a new habit or continue a habit that might have viewed as discretionary. The flip side of that is the 87% of our business that is the Hippo's or the people who view us as a regular main meal have been growing at a very, very healthy rate. Speaker 200:30:30I actually did a little exercise to look at if for the if while consumers are digesting basically 4 price increases in 18 months, If you have to lean hard on the heaviest users, the people who recognize the benefits whose dogs don't want to change, can you get from here to where you want to get to on the backs Those consumers and the answer is yes. You can get there. But over the longer haul, we do want to get back to where we're bringing in the new users at a much more aggressive the 7% we reported in the Q1. We just think it takes longer for them to adapt to the new pricing that's in the market. Just don't go through as many purchase cycles when you're not a heavy user and it takes a couple of purchase cycles for them to adapt. Speaker 200:31:09So by the end of this year, I'd like to see that number in the double digits and Frankly, by sometime next year, I'd like to see the number being in the 20% range. Operator00:31:24Thank you. The next question is from the line of Peter Benedict with Baird. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1100:31:39Sorry about that. Hey, guys. Good morning. So first question is on the Pet Specialty channel, the acceleration you saw there. Was that Just kind of better in stocks you think drove that? Speaker 1100:31:49Was there anything that any of the players in that channel were doing to help get the better velocity there? Speaker 400:31:58Yes, our in stocks were particularly bad even through the very end of Q4 in Pet Specialty. So just The return of full fridges, I think is a really, really big piece of it. Secondarily, we are seeing nice expansion in fridges at Pet Specialty Through the course of this year, that will be a help. It's not really kind of shown in the numbers at this point, but that will be a continued help over the course of the Yes, I think those are the 2 aspects, Peter, and making sure that the products and the portfolio is Well represented, not only being in stock, but also really being as sharp as we can on pricing. Speaker 1100:32:38Got it. Understood. And then maybe just two quick ones for Todd. Just curious on commodity input costs. Can you get us up to speed on that? Speaker 1100:32:46Chicken, beef, Just kind of where you stand, what you've got locked in, remind Speaker 600:32:50us on that. And then, Speaker 1100:32:52just the D and A line, taking a look at that Annualize the Q1 that gets you into the high 50s for the year. Is that what we should be expecting from D and A this year? Thank you. Speaker 300:33:05Yes. So steady as it goes on commodities. So we're locked in around 80%, no big swing. So we're still kind of seeing Mid to upper single digit inflation, so much better than we've seen in the last couple of years. So that's positive that will allow us With the pricing we have in place to get some margin expansion there, so no big swings in commodities and we're I think we're in pretty good shape. Speaker 300:33:33From D and A perspective, yes. In total, around 60%, both up in gross margin and down below, And that should be close to the run rate for the year. Speaker 1100:33:46Great. Thanks very much. Operator00:33:52Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Jason English with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 700:33:59Hey, good morning folks. Thanks for slotting me in. Speaker 1200:34:01Good morning. Speaker 700:34:02A couple of questions. First, I guess, Billy, coming back to your new user comments. The penetration data you shared, 26% last year and rolling 52% through April 3rd, having now dropped to 7%, Suggests really sharp deceleration, perhaps even outright declines and the math actually would suggest outright declines year to date over the last 3 months. What's driven such a sharp decel there? Why the setback? Speaker 700:34:30And how do we foot it with the volume, which actually looks fine? Speaker 200:34:35Yes. It's a good question. The first of all, you have to remember the number on the household penetration is a net number. So if you end up with Some number of consumers who are your sort of discretionary purchasers, not purchasing or purchasing less frequently, you can see that number go down regardless of whether you've Added new users. And so I think what my comments were intended to say is that bringing in new users, we're still bringing in new users, But there are some number of people out there for whom this was not a critical purchase. Speaker 200:35:05It was more of a discretionary purchase. Those are the folks who are not continuing or not The flip side is the people who have been buying us as the main meal became even more committed than before. The most encouraging part to me was not only did they absorb the price increases, they increased the buying rate beyond what the pricing would be. So In our data, we're showing 41% increase in the dollars that we're getting from the superheavy users. And so that's encouraging. Speaker 200:35:34It says the people who've decided that we're the main meal Our continued to buy us and buy us at a heavier rate. I think over the long haul though, we do need to get it to the point where we're bringing people In the front end of the funnel at a more rapid rate, I think for price increases in 18 months shook out some of the people who are more discretionary buyers And now we're focusing on bringing in the new people who are going to move along that purchase curve and become super heavy users in the future. Speaker 700:36:01So Billy, is it right that year to date last few months, you're losing as many consumers as you're bringing in? Speaker 200:36:07I don't think that's right, but I'll have to I don't think that's There's been some moderate growth. Yes. Speaker 700:36:13Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then everything you're talking about in terms of more retail Presence, more advertising, better on shelf availability, better packaging, all this sounds great. And Clearly, you've been leaning in. Speaker 700:36:26Why are we seeing more acceleration in 2Q? Your guidance would suggest like despite we're no longer lapping that shipping headwind, It's not really going to look a lot better. Speaker 200:36:37You mean why the growth rate in Q2 is not a stronger growth rate than Q1? Speaker 700:36:42Yes, yes, that's right. Exactly. Given the acceleration in volume, given that we no longer have a 2 point drag on cycling the prior year shipments? Speaker 200:36:52Yes. I mean, we haven't given you a specific number. We said sort of in the mid-20s. We'll see where it ends up shaking out when it's all said and done. We like the trends we're seeing. Speaker 200:36:59We feel good about the trends that we're seeing, but We want to see it all play through. Speaker 300:37:03And there is obviously, there is some pricing that kind of wanes off in Q2. And as Billy I said earlier, the volumes are coming in really, really nicely. So, look, in total, we feel good about the way it's rolling up, but obviously, we've all gotten a bit of a benefit Good news is our volumes are still really, really strong. Speaker 400:37:21I mean, Jed, the other thing to consider with fridges is when a fridge goes in, it takes literally 6 months for it to have significant impact. So even the bridges that we're putting in now that you can kind of start banking on those for the back half of the year where they really start contributing And adding significant incremental dollars to the business. Speaker 700:37:43Makes sense. All right. Thank you. Speaker 200:37:45Thanks. Operator00:37:47Our next question is from the line of Mark Astrachan with Stifel. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:37:53Hey, good morning everyone. Speaker 200:37:55Good morning. Speaker 400:37:56I guess just to follow-up Speaker 1000:37:57a little bit on the last line of questioning there. Advertising spend increasing, expectations will continue to increase, especially through 4Q. I guess, I'm curious how you're thinking about How the return is today versus historical levels? The correlation has always been very strong. Is it as Strong as it's been in terms of the advertising spend to sales growth, anything you could elaborate there would be helpful. Speaker 400:38:25Yes. So I think Billy touched on this concept too. And really what we're seeing is just like when you go through like a change in the There are certain businesses that basically don't come through, right? They just they wash out basically. And I think there are a group of consumers that are in the category There were also some of them were in Freshpet that are kind of moving out. Speaker 400:38:47So what it does is that's shown in the total number. And so you're losing some of these people that were occasional low level buyers. And as you move through those, you got to You start to get to your real core group of consumers and you kind of start to return to the model that we've had for 10 years where we spend dollars and we see that in That productivity in the advertising and then the CAC, like the way we think about it. So, I think we're going through a transition period where we're flushing out some of those Weaker, less committed consumers that were buying us occasionally that may have gotten some type of economic stimulus That may have had enhanced savings for a period of time, etcetera. So I think that's what we're seeing and we're going through. Speaker 400:39:36So when you ask about the return, We believe we're getting here's what we know. We know we're getting the best response ever to the TV advertising. We know we're getting tons of people Going to the store locator. And historically, again, for 10 years, we've been able to see people go through that and come into the brand. What's being Kind of masked by some of those less dedicated consumers leaving, so it's hard to calculate exactly the return, We believe that nothing has changed that we've seen for a really, really long historical periods and that as we kind of move through this in the near term, we'll get right back Similar types of returns on when we spend what we spend in advertising will drive incremental new consumers. Speaker 1000:40:23Got it. And from a consumer standpoint, and those that have left, can you get them back? Or is it about going after New kind of non fresh pet household today, and I suppose if you're not going in after the lost Households that have come in and out, does that then reduce the longer term opportunity? Speaker 400:40:49Yes. I think that I think Globally, we like 2 things we presented at ICR that I think are important to that. One of them is we can seem to see and this has like been a 5 or 6 year trend that we demonstrated where the total addressable market for fresh pet food has really continued to expand. And I don't think there's anything that's changed the direction I think there's some short term disruption in that, which is the commentary I was just referring to. So I don't think there's really been any change in that and it will continue to Continue to grow over time. Speaker 400:41:30So I think that's where I am, Mark. Mark, I Speaker 200:41:34would just add to that is, I think that what we're seeing is as people are increasingly recognizing Freshpet as a main meal item, we are seeing the buying rate become an increasing driver of the growth. Not what we modeled. It's not what we built out, but at some point, that will be a critical driver of growth of the business as people recognize it. We're just happy to see it in an environment where Those who are committed to the brand have became are very, very committed and those people for whom it was more discretionary purchase, they're less committed. Speaker 400:42:03Yes. And the other thing, I'm sorry, I meant to we touched on at ICR where we mentioned this idea of these HIPPOs. We've talked I bet it's a couple of times on the call about targeting that group. That's really where we're seeing the increase in not only households, but also the buy rate. So It's really the strategy that we put in place in the beginning of the year seems to be playing through well. Speaker 400:42:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:42:30The next question is from the line of Cody Ross with UBS. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1300:42:35Good morning. Thank you for taking our questions. I just want to dig in a little bit on the EBITDA because it came in about $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 better than your guidance here. I think you mentioned that gross margin is Supposed to sequentially decel a little bit here. Can you just unpack that for us and just explain to us what those drivers are? Speaker 1300:42:54And then how you expect the caters through the back half to trend? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you. Speaker 300:43:00Yes. So I mean, let me break down Q1 first. So just like kind of direct input cost pricing versus commodities actually improved by about 200 basis So we've talked about how we've fallen behind the last couple of years with inflation. We're starting to get a nice chunk of that back. So that's great news. Speaker 300:43:21Quality cost, were favorable about 80 basis points. We're seeing continued progress there. And then as we gave everybody a heads up on, hey, look, we are bringing on some new lines in Ennis. There is going to be an absorption issue Through the first half of the year particularly, and we saw that by about 250 basis points to 260 basis points in Q1. That will actually get a little Higher in Q2 as we bring the full cost of that second Ennis line in place. Speaker 300:43:53Everything else we feel Good about it's really that incremental absorption that's going to kind of hurt us in Q2. As we build into As we grow into the volumes of Ennis in the second half of the year, as we've been saying, our volume has They've been trending up nicely. As we build into that volume in the second half of the year, we'll start to leverage that facility a little bit And we'll be lapping all those costs of last year. So again, a slight headwind in versus Q1 For Q2, and then we expect it to be much stronger in the second half. Speaker 1300:44:34That's helpful. Thanks. And then I just have a follow-up here. You've had some new entrants in the category and you've took 2 rounds of price over the last year. Can you just discuss the trial trends and if you're seeing any change in repeat purchase behavior? Speaker 1300:44:48Thank you. Speaker 400:44:50Yes, there have been a tremendous amount of people that have entered, and we track that very, very And maybe I'll touch on that first. So, a year and a few months ago, we talked about us having 96.4% What was out there in fresh and frozen pet food. And today, we're at 96 So basically, if you think about it, over the course of a year and a few months, we lost 4 tenths. So I think that that's Probably the most illustrative way to think about there have been a ton of entrants. They haven't really grown in size, and We have maintained basically our share of the offering. Speaker 400:45:34So, and I think the performance of Almost all of them has been really, I would say, I mean, it's early, early, but I think they're very kind of subpar what Would make retailers very excited about it, at least from what I can tell. So I think that's probably the most important aspect of it. So when we look at And we look at repeat, and I think it's illustrated in some of the stuff that we just were talking about with the Hippo's where we're getting I mean, our buy rate is the thing that's like been extraordinary and really driving the business. It's driving it more than almost ever before. And I think that that naturally demonstrates the dedication that consumers have To the products once they try it. Speaker 400:46:17And we have not made it particularly easy for people over the past more recently, it's been much better, but up until literally the past like 60, 90 days. We have not made it particularly easy for people to get the products they want and the sizes they want all the time. We still have plenty of work to do in that area. There are still some pockets across the U. S. Speaker 400:46:35Where we definitely have opportunities to make sure our fridges are fuller and Better represent our full offering. Operator00:46:48Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Anderson with William Blair. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1400:46:54Hey, good morning. Two quick ones. I was wondering if you could talk about the Cadence of the new the fridge placements that you expect during the year. I think your number of net new stores was up 7% in the Q1, But again, help on the cadence there. And then also on media for the year, what are your expectations for media spend as a Speaker 400:47:22I'll touch on the bridges real quick and then Todd Hit on the media percent of sales. So really the way the year is laying out is Q2 and Q3 3 will be our biggest ads for fridges. And it's not just new placements. We'll actually end With almost double the number of second and third fridges this year, then we actually have in new placements. And I think the Important thing to note is a second and third fridge, a second or a third fridge in a high velocity outlet It's worth the same as the new fridge for the most part. Speaker 400:48:00So it's I think that that helps hopefully dimensionalizes like the impact that New fridges can have and again, the second and third fridges are a critical component to us, continuing to build out of what we're building out for fresh pet food. And from Speaker 300:48:17an media perspective, we'll spend close to 11% of net sales this year And first half, second half, first half, somewhere in the 60% to 65% of that spend will occur. And as I mentioned earlier on the call, The big change in the back half is, we will spend a lot more in Q4 than we did this past year. Speaker 400:48:41Thank you. Operator00:48:44Our next question is from the line of Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1500:48:49Hey, good morning. Good morning. Obviously, the and we talked you guys talked about this a little bit. There's some great numbers In terms of buy rates and overall shipment trends, I did want to Come back a little bit to the questions on household penetration though, especially for the non PIPO users, Only because I just wasn't quite sure what the plan of attack was from your perspective. And again, you're focused on the Hippo's this year. Speaker 1500:49:21I get it. You can't be But is the plan just to sort of for now kind of advertise and hope that the Shock, I guess, of higher pricing fades. Are there other things you can do? Can you introduce smaller packages? Can you do more targeted ads, I guess? Speaker 1500:49:38I mean, just Trying to get an idea of sort of what the strategy is and kind of what the path ahead is for what we should expect for household numbers over the rest of the year. Speaker 400:49:48Yes. So Ken, I mean, I'll touch on a couple of things that we probably hit on, but I will expand A few different comments. So, look, we at ICR, we did mention this idea of We want to focus on Hippo's. And one of the things that we've done in that area is when we think about the advertising that we're putting on air, We're now at a point and where we're comfortable and we're willing to basically be more aggressive and I think more direct And what we're trying to communicate and that will that has been demonstrated to attract and bring in The hippos into the brand. So we kind of set that out at ICR. Speaker 400:50:33We knew that the advertising was going to change. And you're seeing our advertising Kind of pick a course, whether you've seen some of the things we had on earlier in the year, the skies where we're talking about dry pet You're seeing what we're doing now. We're picking consumers that are really, really dedicated to their pet, and we think that's really a Core piece of not only this year, but long term strategy to focus on these Hippos. I do think that when the category gets When all this pricing and it's not even pet food pricing, it's pricing of my grocery bill. When people finally get more comfortable And digest the overall pricing with their grocery bill, and they will. Speaker 400:51:15I mean, it's been shown over the past 50 years that when these things go through, eventually, People get more comfortable where the pricing is and they return to more normalized behavior. I think we're going to get a lot more of those consumers They're just not as valuable. But what we're doing, in the meantime, and I do think this could be 12 to 18 months before we get to this normalization is, We're getting as sharp as we possibly can on every aspect of the base model, which is the advertising, the products that we offer, The price points that we have on especially key entry sizes and we're also launching a couple of products That are kind of more a little bit more value oriented and a little bit we're calling them limited ingredient products. We are starting to offer those products up and including one of the things that we'll start offering up in the next kind of 6 to 12 months is basically bulk Packs. And in those bulk packs, we think it will dramatically change buying behavior. Speaker 400:52:21If you look at the top 13 items in wet They are not single items. They are bulk packs. And we think it's time for Freshpet to start introducing a product portfolio expanding out where We give someone the ability to buy not 1 or 2 at a time, but now buying 4, 6 or 8 at a time. We've been able to test this. We've been Able to demonstrate that there's been success in doing that, and we will start offering those on a broader basis across the country over the next year. Speaker 400:52:48So that's definitely a piece of what we're doing over time. But look, the other thing is just get back The fundamentals on what we're doing, which is the advertising works, the portfolio works, the new products that we've always brought, the innovation we brought works. And if we're doing that well with these other pieces, we feel really great about the business plan. Great. Speaker 1500:53:13That's helpful. And then a quick follow-up, if I can. You mentioned that, again, the Q1 was ahead of your expectations. I think most of it was organic. But You mentioned there was a little bit of a benefit from timing, some inventory capitalization. Speaker 1500:53:27Is there any way to quantify that and think about how much of that reverses in 2Q? Speaker 300:53:32Yes. We had about $1,000,000 benefit approximately from that. We also had about $1,000,000 benefit from some miscellaneous sales and marketing spending, non media That we believe will happen in Q2. So those are the biggest pieces. Speaker 1500:53:47Thanks so much. Operator00:53:49Thanks. Our next question is from the line of Cory Grady with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1200:53:57Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. So I wanted to follow-up on your comments on fridge placements for the year. Can you just remind us of your decision process To add a second or third fridge and what the volume step up benefit you see from the new fridge and if you can, what Portion of your stores are current, 2nd or 3rd fridge candidates? Thanks. Speaker 400:54:23Okay. So, there's a probably multipart Question and answer, I'm going to try and address it at a fairly high level and then we can definitely talk in more detail Like when we get to the 1 on 1 calls. So When we look at a retailer, there is definitely a threshold for different stores that we would put a second or third fridge And typically what we do is we'll start off with the top 20% of in every retailer, There are different like retailers that have different volumes, but what we'll take is the highest volume retailers With the highest percent of velocity, so we'll take the top 20% of stores, and those are typically the first candidates for a 2nd fridge. And then what we've seen over time is, as those progress, retailers are interested Taking the next 20% or 30% of their fridges and putting second and sometimes even a third in the first twenty. So we're starting to continue to see that progression. Speaker 400:55:33And really what is the most important aspect to it is we If we look at dollars per store per week and we consistently see increases in dollars per store per week over time, That is the core aspect. So if we're seeing those consistent dollars per store, that's going to open up the entire network to more and more second and third fridges. So, hopefully, it's giving you a little bit of a feel for it. And I would say today, we have the opportunity for about half of our network Have either a second or a third bridge, that it's applicable. And then what we tend to end up having to wait on is when there's these reset Cycles where retailers are willing to touch the aisle in a pretty big way because to take out 4 feet of something and put in a second fridge is A second or third fridge can be pretty significant. Speaker 400:56:27So I think that's probably a very broad way to think about And year after year, we can continue to see same store sales increases and that's the dollars per store per week. That really continues to open up more and more of the network. So the more we can do from an advertising standpoint, grow penetration, By rate, etcetera, I think the more opportunity we'll have over time for our second and third fridges. Speaker 1200:56:56That's really helpful. Thank you. And then I know this has been asked a few different ways, but just to follow-up on household penetration. Just From the 7% growth you saw this quarter, I mean, is that in line with your expectations to get up to 20% plus by year end? And then, I mean, do you expect household penetration to be more back half weighted? Speaker 1200:57:13And should we think about that as kind of making up for pricing benefits rolling off? Thanks. Speaker 400:57:19Yes. I think the way we had planned it was, we thought we would see a little bit higher overall penetration. Again, we like when we talked to ICR in January, we started focusing we wanted to focus on these Hippo's, these higher value consumers. And we started to deliver on that. I think that we anticipated slightly higher overall penetration and I think what's over delivered is the Hippo's and also the buy rate Has really, like honestly over delivered from what we kind of had really budgeted and planned. Speaker 400:57:50But I think what's happened is We've seen and it's amazing. And we're like if you look at where the category is, it's amazing what The category looks like kind of it's a little like some brands, I think, would be very upset with where they are. And I think what's happened is You have people that deload pantries a little bit and that stretches a little bit. You have some consumers that aren't getting some economic stimulus and that changes the dynamics of when They're buying in number of consumers. So I think once we kind of go through this cycle, we're going to return to kind of a much more normalized growth and penetration. Speaker 400:58:30I would think it would be towards the back of the year, that we'd see kind of more normalized overall penetration. And if we can hang on and make progress on the HIPPOs like we're doing, it could be Something that expands our overall revenues. Speaker 1200:58:46Thank you. Operator00:58:49Our next question comes from the line of Jim Zallara with Stephens. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1100:58:54Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just wanted to ask, As you're looking at the retailers that are adding the 2nd and third fridges, is that incremental buyer just a high frequency user that Now that there's more availability, they're increasing their buy rate? Or does the second or third fridge bring in a new incremental buyer that maybe The fridge is busy and they usually don't go. Speaker 1100:59:18There's a number of opportunity you see incremental buyers. Speaker 400:59:22Yes. So there's probably 2 major aspects to the In some retailers, it literally gives us enough holding power where we can actually get through a weekend. So literally on like some of our highest volume items like £6 roll, for example, which are some of our most loyal users buy. They'll come in on Saturday afternoon and it's sold out. And unfortunately, fridges don't get stocked as well as we would like. Speaker 400:59:49So it gives them some additional holding power in some So you get a buy rate pickup from that aspect. The second thing that we've been able to do and really demonstrate over time is as we add a second fridge, it allows us to add Certain items in. And we think about items very differently than I think certain CPG companies. It's our fridge. We want to make sure the space is as productive as Possible. Speaker 401:00:13We're not trying to just kind of get a few inches from somebody else. So what we've been able to do is as we expand the portfolio of products and offerings, We find products that appeal to a slightly different consumer group or broader consumer group, so it does help to expand penetration within that individual store. And I think All of those details, which many retailers have extraordinary shopper card data on and when they see some of those Aspects, that's what's encouraging them. In addition to the overall kind of high level holistic data, when they look at some of those Details around the individual impact in the aisle, the buy rate driving new consumers in, the frequency that it drives for the category, etcetera. That is some of the final deciding factor for them to put in the second and third fridges. Speaker 201:01:00I would just add to that. In addition to the holding power benefit And the extended assortment that the second and third purchase provide, there's an amplification value of our advertising. Think of it as virtually every CPG manufacturer would kill to have a very large off shelf display or whatnot. We have lighted 4 foot Wise end foot tall fridges sitting in aisles, when they put a second one in or a third one forming an island or on end caps, It has an amplification value of the advertising that is very sizable. And if a reasonably good sized retailer does it in a meaningful number of stores, we can actually see it in the Nielsen data. Speaker 201:01:38And so there is that benefit and we frankly think that is a significant added value to the advertising. Operator01:01:46Okay, great. And if I Speaker 1101:01:47can maybe sneak in one last follow-up on that. As you add in a retailer that has a second or third fridge, Does that provide kind of a shield around the pet aisle that makes it harder for a competitor to get products in there? We talk about The competitive landscape, I mean, if you add a third fridge, does that mean that there's no availability for them or significantly less availability? Or just the pet aisle as a whole just expand? Speaker 401:02:14Look, I think that it helps expand the competitive advantage, but by no means does it limit anyone else From coming in and putting either their own fridge or the retailer put a fridge in. Billy mentions it periodically, but 5 years ago, we came up with a strategy and part of that core strategy was we want to change the way consumers think about We want them to think about fresh first or flipping the bowl, sometimes it's referred to. And we want retailers to think As fresh first as they're building out their aisle. And I think what's starting to happen is they recognize that fresh food has all the benefits that they see in other areas of the store, in pet food now and that it's a really meaningful piece of their Category and I think they're building out. And there have been a few retailers that have added some of their own fridges out there. Speaker 401:03:10So I think it's great for us, and I think it's encouraged some retailers to see what else they want to do to build up the Operator01:03:27Our next question is from the line of John Laurence with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1601:03:31Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. Billy, you've mentioned for a long time that as you got better fill rates up that these retailers would come back. I know you've Talked a lot about these retail partners, but when you look at other new people that are coming to Discuss this category with you that you've been after for a period of time. They went through the lower fill rates and now they're coming back And you've mentioned some of those decision matrix and what they're looking at. Speaker 1601:04:04Can you expand on that just a little bit And what's happened since you've really restored these fuel rates and what are these retailers, what are those discussions like maybe for the first time And in the second and third fridge. Speaker 201:04:19Yes. Let's Scott take that one. He's closer to that. Yes. It's actually been, I think Speaker 401:04:25pretty exciting to see that once we were able to make sure that we had enough supply, that retailers, Current retailers were willing to expand and have discussions around 2nd and 3rds and to be really excited about it. I mean, there were times where they They were almost coming to us and they were expanding the store list even more sometimes than what we had maybe broader mentioned to them. But I think the other dynamic is There are some retailers, there are a few retailers, not many that have said no for a very, very long And I think in the last literally in the last 90 to 120 days, we've had a few of those actually Be receptive to having conversations and I think it's going to open up a few additional retailers for us, which we like to see. We want to we believe We should be able to be in 90% of all the stores, kind of typical grocery, mass, club, stores out there. We should be in almost all of With some type of offering, it may not be 8 feet of bridges in all those stores, but there's some type of offering in the majority stores out there, and we've started to see that open up. Speaker 401:05:37And, boy, I mean, when we didn't have supply, not only were we not encouraging it, but it was They weren't interested either. Why would you want to add anything in where you can't have product to offer a consumer and you're taking up space for So I think we're starting to see past that. So anyway, we're kind of excited to kind of see that develop. Speaker 1601:06:04Great. Thanks. Good luck. Operator01:06:06Great. Thank you. Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question and answer session. Now I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Operator01:06:13Sarraf for closing remarks. Speaker 201:06:15Great. Thank you very much, everyone. I always like to end with a quote. The source of this quote is unknown, but it is very apt. The quote is, It's no coincidence that Man's Best Friend cannot talk, to which I reply, reward them for their silence and feed them Freshpet. Speaker 201:06:31And I'll actually build Speaker 401:06:32on that. There's 4 pets in the dogs in the Freshpet family that I want to recognize Rocky, which was one Speaker 301:06:39of the dogs in Speaker 401:06:40our Advertising Angus, Macy Gray and Pinocchio, who was one of the dogs that of our Head of R and D, And it's helped us develop many products along the way. Great. Speaker 201:06:54Thank you very much, everyone. Operator01:06:57Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFreshpet Q1 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Freshpet Earnings HeadlinesFreshpet (NASDAQ:FRPT) Cut to "Hold" at Truist FinancialMay 3 at 2:21 AM | americanbankingnews.comAn Overview of Freshpet's EarningsMay 2 at 10:41 PM | benzinga.comTrump wipes out trillions overnight…Is there anybody more powerful than Donald Trump right now? 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There are 17 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Freshpet's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I will now turn the conference over to Jeff Sonnek. Operator00:00:23Mr. Sonnek, you may now begin. Speaker 100:00:27Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Freshpet's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. On today's call are Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer And Todd Kunfer, Chief Financial Officer. Scott Morris, Chief Operating Officer will also be available for Q and A. Before we begin, please remember that during the course of this call, management may make forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Speaker 100:00:52These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in these forward looking statements. Please refer to the company's annual report on Form 10 ks filed with the SEC And the company's press release issued today for a detailed discussion of the risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in any forward looking statements made today. Please note that on today's call, management will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA among others. While the company believes these non GAAP financial measures provide useful information for investors, The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to today's press release for how management defines such non GAAP measures. Speaker 100:01:49A reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP and limitations associated with such non GAAP measures. Finally, the company has produced a presentation that contains many of the key metrics That presentation can be found on the company's investor website. Management's commentary will not specifically walk through the presentation on the call, but rather The summary of the results and guidance we will discuss today. Additionally, we'd ask that your questions remain focused on the performance of the business and the results in the quarter. Management will not discuss or speculate on other topics beyond what is being reported here today. Speaker 100:02:29With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer, Billy? Speaker 200:02:35Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. The message I would like you to take away from today's call We are making the steady progress on the key drivers of cost and margins that we committed to deliver this year in the fresh future plan, while still delivering strong growth that is in line with our long term growth plan. This is due to strong operating performance by our teams in Bethlehem and Ennis And another indication that the investment that we made in the Freshpet Academy is paying dividends throughout the P and L. I will share a few highlights of our performance and a few thoughts on the outlook for the balance of the year, and then Todd will provide more detail on the quarter. The highlights are: First, strong net sales growth. Speaker 200:03:18We delivered 27% net sales growth in the Q1. This was in line with the guidance we shared for the quarter And puts us on track to deliver our 2023 plan. Nielsen measured consumption was up 29% in the quarter, But the year ago quarter included some trade inventory refill, so our net sales growth was less than the consumption growth. The consumption growth was comprised of 14% volume growth and 15% price mix growth. We will be lapping significant trade inventory refill in the year ago through much of this year We won't get nearly as much benefit from pricing this year as we did last year, but our growth appears to be strong, particularly with our heaviest users. Speaker 200:03:582nd, adjusted EBITDA ahead of guidance. As we discussed on our last call, 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA is expected to be weighed down by the heavy start up costs in Ennis and the start up of our Dallas, D. C. I'm very happy to say that both of those initiatives were completed As strong performance on quality yielded improved gross margin and enabled higher fill rates that reduced logistics costs. Quality costs came in at 5.3 percent of net sales, down from 6.1% in the year ago quarter. Speaker 200:04:38And logistics costs came in at 9.3 percent of sales, down from 9.9% in the year ago, despite the start up costs associated with the Dallas DC. These are both key operational areas that our team has been focused on, and we are very encouraged by this progress as well as the opportunities it provides for continued upside as we execute our margin improvement strategy. 3rd, More effective balance between commodities and pricing. Input cost as a percent of net sales came in at 34.1%, which only reflects a partial impact from the February price increase. Looking ahead to Q2, we expect to reduce our input costs as a percent of net sales further. Speaker 200:05:21For perspective, our Q1 performance is 180 basis points better than the 35.9% we experienced for the full year of 2022 and 200 basis points better than the 36.1 percent in the Q1 of 2022. Many retailers did not reflect the higher pricing on shelf until late in the quarter, but so far, it appears that consumers are accepting the pricing well. 4th, Enes Startup. The Enes Kitchen is off to a good start due in large part to the training and preparation of the incredible team that is supporting its build out And commercialization. We are now shipping product off both the bag line and roll line and are capable of producing a wide range of SKUs on those lines. Speaker 200:06:05We are still ramping up production on the Bagline, but once that is completed, it will be yet another critical achievement that will unlock significant logistics savings. We will be able to ship the vast majority of our product assortment out of the Dallas DC using locally produced product. Further, Our assessment of the quality of the product produced in Ennis is that it is every bit as good as the product we produce in Bethlehem, and we are doing it with fewer people Due to the significant automation that we have integrated into the facility's design. 5th, strong customer support. Now that we have restored customer service to a high 90s fill rate, our customers have begun to invest heavily in incremental fridge placements. Speaker 200:06:48In Q1, we added 369 net new stores, upgraded 241 stores to larger fridges And place 2nd or 3rd chillers in 685 stores. And there are many more of those coming later this year. We are well on track towards our goal of having 1,700,000 cubic feet of space at retail by the end of this year. And 6th, household penetration growth. Household penetration growth was 7% in the past 52 weeks and buying rate growth was 28% Based on numerator data, what is most encouraging is that our number of heavy and super heavy users grew 18% over that time period Despite the 20 plus percent increase in pricing, we believe this reflects solid loyalty amongst our heaviest users or HIPPOs, High profit pet owning households and the impact of our Flip the Bowl effort that is designed to increase the number of people who use Freshpet as the main meal. Speaker 200:07:45We now have 3,300,000 Hippos in our franchise. Looking forward, I expect to see continued improvement in our operations as the year progresses. We have momentum and while the intangible benefits of a more experienced and better trained team are increasingly clear to us, We are excited to see them turn into tangible benefits and show up in our financial performance. We have sizable opportunities to recover the efficiencies we lost Over the last 3 years, and our reinvigorated operations team is relentlessly focused on the biggest of those, quality, input costs and logistics. Although each of these categories has its own timetable for realizing the benefits, we have the critical talent in place and the progress is increasingly obvious to our team With every passing day. Speaker 200:08:31Additionally, the key elements of our marketing model are being fully deployed for the first time in several years. We have new advertising on the air at heavy media weight that resonates with consumers. Customers are placing new fridges at the strongest rate ever, And we have a large number of new products in distribution or scheduled to ship in the coming months. We are also updating our packaging graphics for the first time in several years, And the premarket testing has shown they elicit an extremely favorable response. Now let me turn it over to Todd for the details on the Q1 results. Speaker 200:09:04Todd? Speaker 300:09:05Thank you, Billy, and good morning, everyone. As Billy said, we are off to a really good start this year. Let me break it down a bit further. Net sales came in at $167,500,000 up 27% versus a year ago. Our net pricing was up 14% versus a year ago in the quarter. Speaker 300:09:25That will drop to 8% in Q2 as we lap the large price increase We took in February of 2022. The growth was broad based across channels, including our pet specialty business, which saw consumption growth rebound, increasing 19% in the quarter versus prior year. Adjusted gross margin was 38.5% in Q1, slightly above the year ago and above our base expectation. This improved performance was due to a variety of factors, including increased pricing, improvements in the cost of quality and a strong start up in Ennis, all aspects of our operational improvement plan that our team is focused on. We expect these elements will continue to improve as we move forward and drive continued margin improvement. Speaker 300:10:15Now that we are shipping product from the bag line in Ennis, we are no longer capitalizing any start up costs on that line, so they will flow through the P and L in Q2 2 as we ramp up production, but that is putting us on a path to sustained growth, increased resilience and margin expansion. Total adjusted SG and A was 36.7 percent of net sales, down from 38.7% in the year ago quarter. Consistent with our long term trend of gaining scale in G and A, our SG and A costs, excluding media and logistics, We're 11.9 percent of net sales versus 12.5% in the year ago period. We also gained 60 basis points of efficiency improvement in logistics costs versus year ago, largely due to very high fill rates And partially offset by the start up costs related to our Dallas DC. We spent a healthy 15.5% of net sales in media in the quarter, And this was slightly below the 16.3 percent we spent in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:11:24Adjusted EBITDA was $3,000,000 in Q1. That is considerably better than the cadence we had initially provided and was primarily due to the strong operating performance Capital spending in the quarter came in slightly below the most recent expectations at $60,000,000 Largely due to sequencing of some sizable expenses and tenants related to completion of the first production building, The chicken processing facility and the early stages of construction of Phase 2. There is no change in our outlook for capital spending this year, which we continue to project at $240,000,000 Our cash position is very strong. We greatly appreciate the support of our shareholders and other investors who participated in the convertible debt offering we completed in March. After the cost of the capped call option is factored in, we realized net proceeds of $325,000,000 from that offering. Speaker 300:12:27In conjunction with our existing cash reserves, at the end of the quarter, we had $387,000,000 in cash and short term investments. We have invested the funds in a series of conservative interest bearing instruments that will yield interest rates well above the 3% coupon cost These funds are invested across several institutions and in T Bills with a maturity of no greater than 120 days. For the remainder of the year, we expect interest income and interest expense to largely offset each other. We believe that we have adequate cash to fully fund our growth through 2024 and will be cash flow positive in 2026. We also believe that we will have access to traditional non dilutive forms of capital to bridge a gap in 2025 if it occurs. Speaker 300:13:20In terms of the cadence of our business for the balance of 2023, we expect to continue the strong growth we demonstrated in Q1, But the net sales growth will increasingly be driven by volume growth versus pricing growth. At the beginning of Q1, our Nielsen measured volume growth rate was around 12%. By the end of the quarter, it was up to around 16% and growing. We need that to continue to grow into the high We believe our marketing, distribution and innovation programs will deliver that. Q2 and Q3 net sales should have mid-20s growth rates, while the Q4 growth rate will be relatively lower due to the Sizable trade inventory refill in the year ago period. Speaker 300:14:09We expect to see continuing improvement in our operating costs in Q2, particularly in logistics and quality, along with the full benefit of the February price increase. However, we will be absorbing the full operating cost of the NSFAG lines in Q2 and to a lesser extent in the second half, until that line achieves full production later this year. The net result is year over year gross margin headwind due to underutilized capacity, which we expect to cause our Q2 adjusted gross margin to come in slightly below that of Q1 2023's performance of 38.5%. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, our expectation is that Q2 should be similar to that of Q1 on an absolute dollar basis, with the difference in some additional SG and A investments in Q2 offset by the contribution of higher net sales. Looking at the combined quarters of the first half, we expect to be slightly ahead of where we initially projected we would be at the midpoint of the year and confident in our ability to deliver our So we are reaffirming our guidance for the year The call is for net sales of approximately $750,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of at least $50,000,000 In closing, we are very encouraged by the start of the year. Speaker 300:15:33The capability improvements that we announced back in September are driving solid and steady improvement in our operating performance. Further, we are seeing significant operational improvement The investment we made in the Freshpet Academy and the time and money we invested to train the Ennis team during the year prior to the start up of that facility. We are even more encouraged by the magnitude of the opportunities that remain ahead of us. We believe that we are on track to deliver the margin improvements required To deliver the long term margin targets we announced as part of the fresh future plan. The Ennis Kitchen is up and operating on both lines, And that provides us with the capacity needed to support our long term growth, adds resilience to our business and provides significant opportunities for margin expansion. Speaker 300:16:24Further, the improvements we designed into that facility provide the opportunity for efficiency upside versus our long term projection. In total, That leaves us feeling very bullish about our future. That concludes our overview. We will now be glad to take your questions. Speaker 400:16:49Thank Operator00:17:12ask you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Operator00:17:25Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 500:17:29Thank you. Good morning. Speaker 200:17:31Good morning. Speaker 500:17:33Just was wondering if you could unpack the guidance a little bit. You've got A full year top line guide consistent with the Q1, but you have pricing that will a pricing benefit that will moderate over the course of the year. Can you just point to some of what you expect on the volume side in terms of driving that acceleration and what kind of visibility you might have there? Speaker 200:17:56Yes. I'll take a shot at it. As we said in the scripted comments that we've seen the increasing shift Towards volume growth and less on pricing. So we began quarter at Q1 at 12% volume growth and we ended the quarter at 16% And we've seen it continue to grow from there. So by the end of the year, we're expecting that volume growth is going to be the driving the biggest driver of our net sales growth, Because pricing by the end of the year will basically end up accounting for something like 5% in the last quarter. Speaker 200:18:27So you're going to see an increasing shift towards volume and we've already seen it. Speaker 500:18:32And is that helped by the step up in advertising or The distribution gains or just all the above or what's the real key factor there in terms of what accelerates Speaker 200:18:49Yes. Let me just give you my comments. Scott will probably add some color to it. But as we said, the reality is we're now back in business doing business the way we want to. So we've got Full fridges, high fill rates. Speaker 200:19:00We've got a broad assortment of products, advertising on the air at heavyweights, new advertising, better packaging, A lot more stores, a lot more upgraded stores. So, the growth is coming from and will continue to come from Our business model, our marketing model working the way we want it to work. Speaker 400:19:17Yes. I think Billy hit on most of the points, but the I would say the overall model It's continuing to perform and we've got penetration growth. The most interesting aspect, we talked about it at ICR. We introduced this idea like the super heavy heavies or hippos that Billy mentioned in the script. We see really strong growth from that group. Speaker 400:19:38We really, really like that. Those are our core, core consumers. Their buy rate is up substantially. The number of fridges that we'll place this year will be extraordinary. It will be an all time record For the company, the number of fridges in total that we placed this year, which gives us the platform to continue to expand our portfolio and appeal to a larger group of consumers. Speaker 400:19:57So it just feels like Every single thing is hitting on all cylinders and then you couple all of that platform with great, great Advertising that continues to drive record traffic to our website, which we know converts to the store locator, which we know converts to eventual People coming into the brand and it really is all working together and I think we're in a really fortunate position. Speaker 500:20:22Okay. That's great. And just a quick follow-up on the ad spend. Is and sorry if I missed this, I don't know if you said it, but the is the 2nd quarter spending level Similar to the first, how does that play out as far as the trajectory over the course of the year? Speaker 400:20:39Yes. Q2 will be at similar level to Q1 and will be fairly heavily weighted to the front half of the year. I don't know if we've actually split it out that way, but over a little bit over 60% of the advertising will be in the first half of the year, 65% or so. Speaker 300:20:54Yes. Heavy spend in the 1st two quarters, actually Q2 is Projected to be up slightly over Q1, and then it tails down in the second half of the year. But unlike last year where we spent very little in Q4, Our expectation is we will spend at a reasonable amount in Q4 as well. Speaker 500:21:14Okay, great. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:21:16Thank you. Operator00:21:18Our next question is from the line of Brian Spillane with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:21:23Thanks, operator. Good morning, guys. Just two quick ones for me. One, just a clarification on the guidance slide. Adjusted EBITDA 2Q, We're talking that you're expecting to be similar to 1Q in absolute dollars, not year on year growth? Speaker 300:21:38Correct. Speaker 600:21:39Okay. And then, Billy, maybe and Scott, maybe if you guys can just maybe zoom out a little bit. I know there's been some concern just about the household spending, consumer spending being under pressure. And Again, you're now kind of getting back up to the curb. So if you can talk a little bit about just as you're back in the market and your fill rates are better, Just your observations about the consumer, is it more heavy users using the product more? Speaker 600:22:10Is there any barrier to attracting new households? Just How the whole macro environment is playing into your growth expectation as you now are beginning to add more product in the market? Speaker 400:22:24Hey, Brian. So I think that we talk about this a lot and we literally look at it like every of weeks very, very closely. And I think we have pretty extensive data that goes fairly deep down into understanding exactly what the dynamics are. And yes, I mean, there's been There's a lot of discussion in the market around kind of what's going on from a consumer standpoint where there have been people that have They're concerned about the economy. They're concerned about inflation, etcetera. Speaker 400:22:53And I think that we have really been an exception to that case. We have definitely seen some of our kind of weaker non frequent consumers kind of move out, But we have focused on and we started focusing literally in the beginning of the year to make sure that those heavy and those hippo consumers are the ones that are really kind of coming into the And continue to buy us, etcetera. So I think that there has been a lot of discussion around the category level around what's going on. I think that we have been fortunate that We have not really had much impact from that and we feel like we're on a really terrific course for this year and Getting the right types of consumers in, we continue to see interest in the brand and the proposition that we're bringing to market. And also we're always really cognizant Trying to make sure that the entire portfolio has be as affordable and accessible to as many consumers as possible. Speaker 400:23:50And we always are keeping And we continue to do work in that area. Speaker 700:23:55Thank you. Operator00:23:58Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:24:04Good morning and thanks for taking my question. So I was just curious as we look at your gross margins, just I think last quarter you guys indicated that you expect gross margins to be up more than 200 basis points. Curious if you saw the same expectations for the year? Speaker 300:24:18We do at this point. Look, we're really pleased about Q1. Obviously, it came in a bit Higher than our original projection. A little bit of that was timing. We built a little more inventory in Q1 that got capitalized For the quarter, that probably will come back in the Q2. Speaker 300:24:40Look, it's really early. We're off to a great start. And so it's just too hard to call the remainder of the year. So really no change in the expectations at this point, but We're really pleased. Look, Ennis is still ramping up. Speaker 300:24:54We haven't started chicken processing there at that facility yet. So we still got a little bit of wildcard going on, but Feeling really good about the start of the year, Rupesh. Speaker 800:25:03Great. And then maybe just one follow-up question. I know you've launched the fresh pet food subscription with Petco. Just curious how that launch is going at this juncture. I know it's early, just curious if it's already in stores and how that's progressing. Speaker 400:25:15Yes. It's in literally around 300 stores at this point, so it's super early. We've gotten, I think, a really, really High visibility and a really good response from it at this point. It is super early. We're I think we Remain like super enthusiastic about the potential of it, and we will start to support it literally in the next couple of weeks, once we kind of have Everything kind of flattened out and kind of calmed down from a supply chain standpoint with that specific product. Speaker 400:25:45So we'll start to support it then. I think At that point, we'll start to get a real feel for consumer like interest, broad consumer interest and just kind of what type of Size of business, that will be over time. Speaker 800:26:01Great. Thank you. Operator00:26:06Our next question is from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 200:26:15Thanks. Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 900:26:19Just on a pricing Standpoint, understand that you're successfully pushing through this pricing, but maybe you can talk about where you stand in terms of price gaps with The competition, what you expect, the category to do in pricing as costs do come back We'll pull back in the back half of the year and Speaker 1000:26:38we get maybe a more Speaker 1100:26:39a little more promotional environment. Speaker 900:26:41I understand that you have a differentiated product And kibble, but still there is some pricing dynamics between the 2. Speaker 400:26:50Yes. Bill, we've been watching this closely and You could definitely imagine where in certain environments there would be increased spending and promotional Forward activity, we really haven't seen any of that pick up yet. It's definitely possible. And I would say it's actually at this point even been slightly below some traditional levels, historical levels. So I think some of it will come back In the past, that hasn't had a tremendous impact on our business, as you brought up. Speaker 400:27:26I think that it's a pretty rational Appreciate the profitability of the category. And I think that, I think it's going to be rational behavior from pretty much everybody, including the retailers, which will really be the ones to either drive it or suppress it. So I at this point, I mean, it's hard to exactly speculate what could happen later in the year, But I don't see it getting it gets irrational in some categories. I have not seen that in pet over time. Speaker 900:28:03But the price gaps with competition are where you want them to be right now? Speaker 400:28:08Yes. We Like where we are and we're watching that. And I think the biggest thing that we're seeing is what's called out. No matter which way you look Got it. Our volumes continue to grow. Speaker 300:28:21Whether you look at prior periods, literally Speaker 400:28:24from the beginning of the year till now, it's been really, really nice consistent Volume growth. So I'm looking at pounds. And in this case, when there's so much going on with dollars, I'm looking at pounds. If you're increasing pounds and units, You're doing great work in this type of environment. And that's what we're doing. Speaker 400:28:41We've seen the we go back on air. We are completely very, Very low levels of any type of advertising in Q4. We go back on air and we consistently see our pounds continue to progress Through the Q1, which I don't think anyone could have asked for anything better. So I think what the market is telling us is the Price gaps are acceptable like where they are and consumers continue to come into the brand and spend a lot of money with us. Speaker 900:29:08Got it. And then Billy, I know household penetration and markets here are not interchangeable. But Several years ago, the thought was you had kind of low single digit market share in nationwide, but you had Close to 10% in some of the West Coast Albertsons. Now you're talking about household penetration being close to 7%. And I guess just trying to understand, As capacity comes online, where do you think household penetration and market share for that matter can go this year and next? Speaker 900:29:44Is it Are we talking double digits? Are there any barriers? Are there keys to unlocking that such as like more fridges per door or stuff like that? Any color would be great. Speaker 200:29:55Yes. Yes. It's one of the issues that we watch very closely. Obviously, with all the rapid price increases that have gone into the market, what you've seen is The occasional user or the person who views us is more of an indulgence or an extra as opposed to the person who uses us as the main meal Has been a little bit less willing to bring on a new habit or continue a habit that might have viewed as discretionary. The flip side of that is the 87% of our business that is the Hippo's or the people who view us as a regular main meal have been growing at a very, very healthy rate. Speaker 200:30:30I actually did a little exercise to look at if for the if while consumers are digesting basically 4 price increases in 18 months, If you have to lean hard on the heaviest users, the people who recognize the benefits whose dogs don't want to change, can you get from here to where you want to get to on the backs Those consumers and the answer is yes. You can get there. But over the longer haul, we do want to get back to where we're bringing in the new users at a much more aggressive the 7% we reported in the Q1. We just think it takes longer for them to adapt to the new pricing that's in the market. Just don't go through as many purchase cycles when you're not a heavy user and it takes a couple of purchase cycles for them to adapt. Speaker 200:31:09So by the end of this year, I'd like to see that number in the double digits and Frankly, by sometime next year, I'd like to see the number being in the 20% range. Operator00:31:24Thank you. The next question is from the line of Peter Benedict with Baird. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1100:31:39Sorry about that. Hey, guys. Good morning. So first question is on the Pet Specialty channel, the acceleration you saw there. Was that Just kind of better in stocks you think drove that? Speaker 1100:31:49Was there anything that any of the players in that channel were doing to help get the better velocity there? Speaker 400:31:58Yes, our in stocks were particularly bad even through the very end of Q4 in Pet Specialty. So just The return of full fridges, I think is a really, really big piece of it. Secondarily, we are seeing nice expansion in fridges at Pet Specialty Through the course of this year, that will be a help. It's not really kind of shown in the numbers at this point, but that will be a continued help over the course of the Yes, I think those are the 2 aspects, Peter, and making sure that the products and the portfolio is Well represented, not only being in stock, but also really being as sharp as we can on pricing. Speaker 1100:32:38Got it. Understood. And then maybe just two quick ones for Todd. Just curious on commodity input costs. Can you get us up to speed on that? Speaker 1100:32:46Chicken, beef, Just kind of where you stand, what you've got locked in, remind Speaker 600:32:50us on that. And then, Speaker 1100:32:52just the D and A line, taking a look at that Annualize the Q1 that gets you into the high 50s for the year. Is that what we should be expecting from D and A this year? Thank you. Speaker 300:33:05Yes. So steady as it goes on commodities. So we're locked in around 80%, no big swing. So we're still kind of seeing Mid to upper single digit inflation, so much better than we've seen in the last couple of years. So that's positive that will allow us With the pricing we have in place to get some margin expansion there, so no big swings in commodities and we're I think we're in pretty good shape. Speaker 300:33:33From D and A perspective, yes. In total, around 60%, both up in gross margin and down below, And that should be close to the run rate for the year. Speaker 1100:33:46Great. Thanks very much. Operator00:33:52Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Jason English with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 700:33:59Hey, good morning folks. Thanks for slotting me in. Speaker 1200:34:01Good morning. Speaker 700:34:02A couple of questions. First, I guess, Billy, coming back to your new user comments. The penetration data you shared, 26% last year and rolling 52% through April 3rd, having now dropped to 7%, Suggests really sharp deceleration, perhaps even outright declines and the math actually would suggest outright declines year to date over the last 3 months. What's driven such a sharp decel there? Why the setback? Speaker 700:34:30And how do we foot it with the volume, which actually looks fine? Speaker 200:34:35Yes. It's a good question. The first of all, you have to remember the number on the household penetration is a net number. So if you end up with Some number of consumers who are your sort of discretionary purchasers, not purchasing or purchasing less frequently, you can see that number go down regardless of whether you've Added new users. And so I think what my comments were intended to say is that bringing in new users, we're still bringing in new users, But there are some number of people out there for whom this was not a critical purchase. Speaker 200:35:05It was more of a discretionary purchase. Those are the folks who are not continuing or not The flip side is the people who have been buying us as the main meal became even more committed than before. The most encouraging part to me was not only did they absorb the price increases, they increased the buying rate beyond what the pricing would be. So In our data, we're showing 41% increase in the dollars that we're getting from the superheavy users. And so that's encouraging. Speaker 200:35:34It says the people who've decided that we're the main meal Our continued to buy us and buy us at a heavier rate. I think over the long haul though, we do need to get it to the point where we're bringing people In the front end of the funnel at a more rapid rate, I think for price increases in 18 months shook out some of the people who are more discretionary buyers And now we're focusing on bringing in the new people who are going to move along that purchase curve and become super heavy users in the future. Speaker 700:36:01So Billy, is it right that year to date last few months, you're losing as many consumers as you're bringing in? Speaker 200:36:07I don't think that's right, but I'll have to I don't think that's There's been some moderate growth. Yes. Speaker 700:36:13Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then everything you're talking about in terms of more retail Presence, more advertising, better on shelf availability, better packaging, all this sounds great. And Clearly, you've been leaning in. Speaker 700:36:26Why are we seeing more acceleration in 2Q? Your guidance would suggest like despite we're no longer lapping that shipping headwind, It's not really going to look a lot better. Speaker 200:36:37You mean why the growth rate in Q2 is not a stronger growth rate than Q1? Speaker 700:36:42Yes, yes, that's right. Exactly. Given the acceleration in volume, given that we no longer have a 2 point drag on cycling the prior year shipments? Speaker 200:36:52Yes. I mean, we haven't given you a specific number. We said sort of in the mid-20s. We'll see where it ends up shaking out when it's all said and done. We like the trends we're seeing. Speaker 200:36:59We feel good about the trends that we're seeing, but We want to see it all play through. Speaker 300:37:03And there is obviously, there is some pricing that kind of wanes off in Q2. And as Billy I said earlier, the volumes are coming in really, really nicely. So, look, in total, we feel good about the way it's rolling up, but obviously, we've all gotten a bit of a benefit Good news is our volumes are still really, really strong. Speaker 400:37:21I mean, Jed, the other thing to consider with fridges is when a fridge goes in, it takes literally 6 months for it to have significant impact. So even the bridges that we're putting in now that you can kind of start banking on those for the back half of the year where they really start contributing And adding significant incremental dollars to the business. Speaker 700:37:43Makes sense. All right. Thank you. Speaker 200:37:45Thanks. Operator00:37:47Our next question is from the line of Mark Astrachan with Stifel. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:37:53Hey, good morning everyone. Speaker 200:37:55Good morning. Speaker 400:37:56I guess just to follow-up Speaker 1000:37:57a little bit on the last line of questioning there. Advertising spend increasing, expectations will continue to increase, especially through 4Q. I guess, I'm curious how you're thinking about How the return is today versus historical levels? The correlation has always been very strong. Is it as Strong as it's been in terms of the advertising spend to sales growth, anything you could elaborate there would be helpful. Speaker 400:38:25Yes. So I think Billy touched on this concept too. And really what we're seeing is just like when you go through like a change in the There are certain businesses that basically don't come through, right? They just they wash out basically. And I think there are a group of consumers that are in the category There were also some of them were in Freshpet that are kind of moving out. Speaker 400:38:47So what it does is that's shown in the total number. And so you're losing some of these people that were occasional low level buyers. And as you move through those, you got to You start to get to your real core group of consumers and you kind of start to return to the model that we've had for 10 years where we spend dollars and we see that in That productivity in the advertising and then the CAC, like the way we think about it. So, I think we're going through a transition period where we're flushing out some of those Weaker, less committed consumers that were buying us occasionally that may have gotten some type of economic stimulus That may have had enhanced savings for a period of time, etcetera. So I think that's what we're seeing and we're going through. Speaker 400:39:36So when you ask about the return, We believe we're getting here's what we know. We know we're getting the best response ever to the TV advertising. We know we're getting tons of people Going to the store locator. And historically, again, for 10 years, we've been able to see people go through that and come into the brand. What's being Kind of masked by some of those less dedicated consumers leaving, so it's hard to calculate exactly the return, We believe that nothing has changed that we've seen for a really, really long historical periods and that as we kind of move through this in the near term, we'll get right back Similar types of returns on when we spend what we spend in advertising will drive incremental new consumers. Speaker 1000:40:23Got it. And from a consumer standpoint, and those that have left, can you get them back? Or is it about going after New kind of non fresh pet household today, and I suppose if you're not going in after the lost Households that have come in and out, does that then reduce the longer term opportunity? Speaker 400:40:49Yes. I think that I think Globally, we like 2 things we presented at ICR that I think are important to that. One of them is we can seem to see and this has like been a 5 or 6 year trend that we demonstrated where the total addressable market for fresh pet food has really continued to expand. And I don't think there's anything that's changed the direction I think there's some short term disruption in that, which is the commentary I was just referring to. So I don't think there's really been any change in that and it will continue to Continue to grow over time. Speaker 400:41:30So I think that's where I am, Mark. Mark, I Speaker 200:41:34would just add to that is, I think that what we're seeing is as people are increasingly recognizing Freshpet as a main meal item, we are seeing the buying rate become an increasing driver of the growth. Not what we modeled. It's not what we built out, but at some point, that will be a critical driver of growth of the business as people recognize it. We're just happy to see it in an environment where Those who are committed to the brand have became are very, very committed and those people for whom it was more discretionary purchase, they're less committed. Speaker 400:42:03Yes. And the other thing, I'm sorry, I meant to we touched on at ICR where we mentioned this idea of these HIPPOs. We've talked I bet it's a couple of times on the call about targeting that group. That's really where we're seeing the increase in not only households, but also the buy rate. So It's really the strategy that we put in place in the beginning of the year seems to be playing through well. Speaker 400:42:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:42:30The next question is from the line of Cody Ross with UBS. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1300:42:35Good morning. Thank you for taking our questions. I just want to dig in a little bit on the EBITDA because it came in about $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 better than your guidance here. I think you mentioned that gross margin is Supposed to sequentially decel a little bit here. Can you just unpack that for us and just explain to us what those drivers are? Speaker 1300:42:54And then how you expect the caters through the back half to trend? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you. Speaker 300:43:00Yes. So I mean, let me break down Q1 first. So just like kind of direct input cost pricing versus commodities actually improved by about 200 basis So we've talked about how we've fallen behind the last couple of years with inflation. We're starting to get a nice chunk of that back. So that's great news. Speaker 300:43:21Quality cost, were favorable about 80 basis points. We're seeing continued progress there. And then as we gave everybody a heads up on, hey, look, we are bringing on some new lines in Ennis. There is going to be an absorption issue Through the first half of the year particularly, and we saw that by about 250 basis points to 260 basis points in Q1. That will actually get a little Higher in Q2 as we bring the full cost of that second Ennis line in place. Speaker 300:43:53Everything else we feel Good about it's really that incremental absorption that's going to kind of hurt us in Q2. As we build into As we grow into the volumes of Ennis in the second half of the year, as we've been saying, our volume has They've been trending up nicely. As we build into that volume in the second half of the year, we'll start to leverage that facility a little bit And we'll be lapping all those costs of last year. So again, a slight headwind in versus Q1 For Q2, and then we expect it to be much stronger in the second half. Speaker 1300:44:34That's helpful. Thanks. And then I just have a follow-up here. You've had some new entrants in the category and you've took 2 rounds of price over the last year. Can you just discuss the trial trends and if you're seeing any change in repeat purchase behavior? Speaker 1300:44:48Thank you. Speaker 400:44:50Yes, there have been a tremendous amount of people that have entered, and we track that very, very And maybe I'll touch on that first. So, a year and a few months ago, we talked about us having 96.4% What was out there in fresh and frozen pet food. And today, we're at 96 So basically, if you think about it, over the course of a year and a few months, we lost 4 tenths. So I think that that's Probably the most illustrative way to think about there have been a ton of entrants. They haven't really grown in size, and We have maintained basically our share of the offering. Speaker 400:45:34So, and I think the performance of Almost all of them has been really, I would say, I mean, it's early, early, but I think they're very kind of subpar what Would make retailers very excited about it, at least from what I can tell. So I think that's probably the most important aspect of it. So when we look at And we look at repeat, and I think it's illustrated in some of the stuff that we just were talking about with the Hippo's where we're getting I mean, our buy rate is the thing that's like been extraordinary and really driving the business. It's driving it more than almost ever before. And I think that that naturally demonstrates the dedication that consumers have To the products once they try it. Speaker 400:46:17And we have not made it particularly easy for people over the past more recently, it's been much better, but up until literally the past like 60, 90 days. We have not made it particularly easy for people to get the products they want and the sizes they want all the time. We still have plenty of work to do in that area. There are still some pockets across the U. S. Speaker 400:46:35Where we definitely have opportunities to make sure our fridges are fuller and Better represent our full offering. Operator00:46:48Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Anderson with William Blair. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1400:46:54Hey, good morning. Two quick ones. I was wondering if you could talk about the Cadence of the new the fridge placements that you expect during the year. I think your number of net new stores was up 7% in the Q1, But again, help on the cadence there. And then also on media for the year, what are your expectations for media spend as a Speaker 400:47:22I'll touch on the bridges real quick and then Todd Hit on the media percent of sales. So really the way the year is laying out is Q2 and Q3 3 will be our biggest ads for fridges. And it's not just new placements. We'll actually end With almost double the number of second and third fridges this year, then we actually have in new placements. And I think the Important thing to note is a second and third fridge, a second or a third fridge in a high velocity outlet It's worth the same as the new fridge for the most part. Speaker 400:48:00So it's I think that that helps hopefully dimensionalizes like the impact that New fridges can have and again, the second and third fridges are a critical component to us, continuing to build out of what we're building out for fresh pet food. And from Speaker 300:48:17an media perspective, we'll spend close to 11% of net sales this year And first half, second half, first half, somewhere in the 60% to 65% of that spend will occur. And as I mentioned earlier on the call, The big change in the back half is, we will spend a lot more in Q4 than we did this past year. Speaker 400:48:41Thank you. Operator00:48:44Our next question is from the line of Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1500:48:49Hey, good morning. Good morning. Obviously, the and we talked you guys talked about this a little bit. There's some great numbers In terms of buy rates and overall shipment trends, I did want to Come back a little bit to the questions on household penetration though, especially for the non PIPO users, Only because I just wasn't quite sure what the plan of attack was from your perspective. And again, you're focused on the Hippo's this year. Speaker 1500:49:21I get it. You can't be But is the plan just to sort of for now kind of advertise and hope that the Shock, I guess, of higher pricing fades. Are there other things you can do? Can you introduce smaller packages? Can you do more targeted ads, I guess? Speaker 1500:49:38I mean, just Trying to get an idea of sort of what the strategy is and kind of what the path ahead is for what we should expect for household numbers over the rest of the year. Speaker 400:49:48Yes. So Ken, I mean, I'll touch on a couple of things that we probably hit on, but I will expand A few different comments. So, look, we at ICR, we did mention this idea of We want to focus on Hippo's. And one of the things that we've done in that area is when we think about the advertising that we're putting on air, We're now at a point and where we're comfortable and we're willing to basically be more aggressive and I think more direct And what we're trying to communicate and that will that has been demonstrated to attract and bring in The hippos into the brand. So we kind of set that out at ICR. Speaker 400:50:33We knew that the advertising was going to change. And you're seeing our advertising Kind of pick a course, whether you've seen some of the things we had on earlier in the year, the skies where we're talking about dry pet You're seeing what we're doing now. We're picking consumers that are really, really dedicated to their pet, and we think that's really a Core piece of not only this year, but long term strategy to focus on these Hippos. I do think that when the category gets When all this pricing and it's not even pet food pricing, it's pricing of my grocery bill. When people finally get more comfortable And digest the overall pricing with their grocery bill, and they will. Speaker 400:51:15I mean, it's been shown over the past 50 years that when these things go through, eventually, People get more comfortable where the pricing is and they return to more normalized behavior. I think we're going to get a lot more of those consumers They're just not as valuable. But what we're doing, in the meantime, and I do think this could be 12 to 18 months before we get to this normalization is, We're getting as sharp as we possibly can on every aspect of the base model, which is the advertising, the products that we offer, The price points that we have on especially key entry sizes and we're also launching a couple of products That are kind of more a little bit more value oriented and a little bit we're calling them limited ingredient products. We are starting to offer those products up and including one of the things that we'll start offering up in the next kind of 6 to 12 months is basically bulk Packs. And in those bulk packs, we think it will dramatically change buying behavior. Speaker 400:52:21If you look at the top 13 items in wet They are not single items. They are bulk packs. And we think it's time for Freshpet to start introducing a product portfolio expanding out where We give someone the ability to buy not 1 or 2 at a time, but now buying 4, 6 or 8 at a time. We've been able to test this. We've been Able to demonstrate that there's been success in doing that, and we will start offering those on a broader basis across the country over the next year. Speaker 400:52:48So that's definitely a piece of what we're doing over time. But look, the other thing is just get back The fundamentals on what we're doing, which is the advertising works, the portfolio works, the new products that we've always brought, the innovation we brought works. And if we're doing that well with these other pieces, we feel really great about the business plan. Great. Speaker 1500:53:13That's helpful. And then a quick follow-up, if I can. You mentioned that, again, the Q1 was ahead of your expectations. I think most of it was organic. But You mentioned there was a little bit of a benefit from timing, some inventory capitalization. Speaker 1500:53:27Is there any way to quantify that and think about how much of that reverses in 2Q? Speaker 300:53:32Yes. We had about $1,000,000 benefit approximately from that. We also had about $1,000,000 benefit from some miscellaneous sales and marketing spending, non media That we believe will happen in Q2. So those are the biggest pieces. Speaker 1500:53:47Thanks so much. Operator00:53:49Thanks. Our next question is from the line of Cory Grady with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1200:53:57Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. So I wanted to follow-up on your comments on fridge placements for the year. Can you just remind us of your decision process To add a second or third fridge and what the volume step up benefit you see from the new fridge and if you can, what Portion of your stores are current, 2nd or 3rd fridge candidates? Thanks. Speaker 400:54:23Okay. So, there's a probably multipart Question and answer, I'm going to try and address it at a fairly high level and then we can definitely talk in more detail Like when we get to the 1 on 1 calls. So When we look at a retailer, there is definitely a threshold for different stores that we would put a second or third fridge And typically what we do is we'll start off with the top 20% of in every retailer, There are different like retailers that have different volumes, but what we'll take is the highest volume retailers With the highest percent of velocity, so we'll take the top 20% of stores, and those are typically the first candidates for a 2nd fridge. And then what we've seen over time is, as those progress, retailers are interested Taking the next 20% or 30% of their fridges and putting second and sometimes even a third in the first twenty. So we're starting to continue to see that progression. Speaker 400:55:33And really what is the most important aspect to it is we If we look at dollars per store per week and we consistently see increases in dollars per store per week over time, That is the core aspect. So if we're seeing those consistent dollars per store, that's going to open up the entire network to more and more second and third fridges. So, hopefully, it's giving you a little bit of a feel for it. And I would say today, we have the opportunity for about half of our network Have either a second or a third bridge, that it's applicable. And then what we tend to end up having to wait on is when there's these reset Cycles where retailers are willing to touch the aisle in a pretty big way because to take out 4 feet of something and put in a second fridge is A second or third fridge can be pretty significant. Speaker 400:56:27So I think that's probably a very broad way to think about And year after year, we can continue to see same store sales increases and that's the dollars per store per week. That really continues to open up more and more of the network. So the more we can do from an advertising standpoint, grow penetration, By rate, etcetera, I think the more opportunity we'll have over time for our second and third fridges. Speaker 1200:56:56That's really helpful. Thank you. And then I know this has been asked a few different ways, but just to follow-up on household penetration. Just From the 7% growth you saw this quarter, I mean, is that in line with your expectations to get up to 20% plus by year end? And then, I mean, do you expect household penetration to be more back half weighted? Speaker 1200:57:13And should we think about that as kind of making up for pricing benefits rolling off? Thanks. Speaker 400:57:19Yes. I think the way we had planned it was, we thought we would see a little bit higher overall penetration. Again, we like when we talked to ICR in January, we started focusing we wanted to focus on these Hippo's, these higher value consumers. And we started to deliver on that. I think that we anticipated slightly higher overall penetration and I think what's over delivered is the Hippo's and also the buy rate Has really, like honestly over delivered from what we kind of had really budgeted and planned. Speaker 400:57:50But I think what's happened is We've seen and it's amazing. And we're like if you look at where the category is, it's amazing what The category looks like kind of it's a little like some brands, I think, would be very upset with where they are. And I think what's happened is You have people that deload pantries a little bit and that stretches a little bit. You have some consumers that aren't getting some economic stimulus and that changes the dynamics of when They're buying in number of consumers. So I think once we kind of go through this cycle, we're going to return to kind of a much more normalized growth and penetration. Speaker 400:58:30I would think it would be towards the back of the year, that we'd see kind of more normalized overall penetration. And if we can hang on and make progress on the HIPPOs like we're doing, it could be Something that expands our overall revenues. Speaker 1200:58:46Thank you. Operator00:58:49Our next question comes from the line of Jim Zallara with Stephens. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1100:58:54Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just wanted to ask, As you're looking at the retailers that are adding the 2nd and third fridges, is that incremental buyer just a high frequency user that Now that there's more availability, they're increasing their buy rate? Or does the second or third fridge bring in a new incremental buyer that maybe The fridge is busy and they usually don't go. Speaker 1100:59:18There's a number of opportunity you see incremental buyers. Speaker 400:59:22Yes. So there's probably 2 major aspects to the In some retailers, it literally gives us enough holding power where we can actually get through a weekend. So literally on like some of our highest volume items like £6 roll, for example, which are some of our most loyal users buy. They'll come in on Saturday afternoon and it's sold out. And unfortunately, fridges don't get stocked as well as we would like. Speaker 400:59:49So it gives them some additional holding power in some So you get a buy rate pickup from that aspect. The second thing that we've been able to do and really demonstrate over time is as we add a second fridge, it allows us to add Certain items in. And we think about items very differently than I think certain CPG companies. It's our fridge. We want to make sure the space is as productive as Possible. Speaker 401:00:13We're not trying to just kind of get a few inches from somebody else. So what we've been able to do is as we expand the portfolio of products and offerings, We find products that appeal to a slightly different consumer group or broader consumer group, so it does help to expand penetration within that individual store. And I think All of those details, which many retailers have extraordinary shopper card data on and when they see some of those Aspects, that's what's encouraging them. In addition to the overall kind of high level holistic data, when they look at some of those Details around the individual impact in the aisle, the buy rate driving new consumers in, the frequency that it drives for the category, etcetera. That is some of the final deciding factor for them to put in the second and third fridges. Speaker 201:01:00I would just add to that. In addition to the holding power benefit And the extended assortment that the second and third purchase provide, there's an amplification value of our advertising. Think of it as virtually every CPG manufacturer would kill to have a very large off shelf display or whatnot. We have lighted 4 foot Wise end foot tall fridges sitting in aisles, when they put a second one in or a third one forming an island or on end caps, It has an amplification value of the advertising that is very sizable. And if a reasonably good sized retailer does it in a meaningful number of stores, we can actually see it in the Nielsen data. Speaker 201:01:38And so there is that benefit and we frankly think that is a significant added value to the advertising. Operator01:01:46Okay, great. And if I Speaker 1101:01:47can maybe sneak in one last follow-up on that. As you add in a retailer that has a second or third fridge, Does that provide kind of a shield around the pet aisle that makes it harder for a competitor to get products in there? We talk about The competitive landscape, I mean, if you add a third fridge, does that mean that there's no availability for them or significantly less availability? Or just the pet aisle as a whole just expand? Speaker 401:02:14Look, I think that it helps expand the competitive advantage, but by no means does it limit anyone else From coming in and putting either their own fridge or the retailer put a fridge in. Billy mentions it periodically, but 5 years ago, we came up with a strategy and part of that core strategy was we want to change the way consumers think about We want them to think about fresh first or flipping the bowl, sometimes it's referred to. And we want retailers to think As fresh first as they're building out their aisle. And I think what's starting to happen is they recognize that fresh food has all the benefits that they see in other areas of the store, in pet food now and that it's a really meaningful piece of their Category and I think they're building out. And there have been a few retailers that have added some of their own fridges out there. Speaker 401:03:10So I think it's great for us, and I think it's encouraged some retailers to see what else they want to do to build up the Operator01:03:27Our next question is from the line of John Laurence with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 1601:03:31Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. Billy, you've mentioned for a long time that as you got better fill rates up that these retailers would come back. I know you've Talked a lot about these retail partners, but when you look at other new people that are coming to Discuss this category with you that you've been after for a period of time. They went through the lower fill rates and now they're coming back And you've mentioned some of those decision matrix and what they're looking at. Speaker 1601:04:04Can you expand on that just a little bit And what's happened since you've really restored these fuel rates and what are these retailers, what are those discussions like maybe for the first time And in the second and third fridge. Speaker 201:04:19Yes. Let's Scott take that one. He's closer to that. Yes. It's actually been, I think Speaker 401:04:25pretty exciting to see that once we were able to make sure that we had enough supply, that retailers, Current retailers were willing to expand and have discussions around 2nd and 3rds and to be really excited about it. I mean, there were times where they They were almost coming to us and they were expanding the store list even more sometimes than what we had maybe broader mentioned to them. But I think the other dynamic is There are some retailers, there are a few retailers, not many that have said no for a very, very long And I think in the last literally in the last 90 to 120 days, we've had a few of those actually Be receptive to having conversations and I think it's going to open up a few additional retailers for us, which we like to see. We want to we believe We should be able to be in 90% of all the stores, kind of typical grocery, mass, club, stores out there. We should be in almost all of With some type of offering, it may not be 8 feet of bridges in all those stores, but there's some type of offering in the majority stores out there, and we've started to see that open up. Speaker 401:05:37And, boy, I mean, when we didn't have supply, not only were we not encouraging it, but it was They weren't interested either. Why would you want to add anything in where you can't have product to offer a consumer and you're taking up space for So I think we're starting to see past that. So anyway, we're kind of excited to kind of see that develop. Speaker 1601:06:04Great. Thanks. Good luck. Operator01:06:06Great. Thank you. Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question and answer session. Now I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Operator01:06:13Sarraf for closing remarks. Speaker 201:06:15Great. Thank you very much, everyone. I always like to end with a quote. The source of this quote is unknown, but it is very apt. The quote is, It's no coincidence that Man's Best Friend cannot talk, to which I reply, reward them for their silence and feed them Freshpet. Speaker 201:06:31And I'll actually build Speaker 401:06:32on that. There's 4 pets in the dogs in the Freshpet family that I want to recognize Rocky, which was one Speaker 301:06:39of the dogs in Speaker 401:06:40our Advertising Angus, Macy Gray and Pinocchio, who was one of the dogs that of our Head of R and D, And it's helped us develop many products along the way. Great. Speaker 201:06:54Thank you very much, everyone. Operator01:06:57Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by