Redwire Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 10, 2023

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your Greetings and welcome to the Redwire Corporation Q1 2023 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Jeff Zunick. Sir, the floor is yours.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Karen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Redwire's Q1 2023 earnings call. We hope that you have seen our earnings release, which we issued yesterday afternoon. Call. It has also been posted in the Investor Relations section of our website at redwirespace.com.

Speaker 1

Let me remind Everyone that during the call, Redwater Management may make forward looking statements that reflect our beliefs, expectations, intentions or predictions of the future. Our forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail on Slide 2. Additionally, to the extent we discuss non GAAP measures during the call, Please leave Slide 3 of our earnings release or the investor presentation on our website for the calculation of these measures and non GAAP reconciliations. I am Jeff Zunich, Redwire's Senior Vice President of Financial Planning and Analysis. Joining me on today's call are Peter Canedo, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Jonathan Baliff, Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker 1

With that, I would like to turn the call over to Pete. Pete?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jeff. During today's call, I will take you through a discussion of our key accomplishments in the Q1 of 2023, Followed by Jonathan, who will present the financial highlights for the same period. We will also discuss our continuing outlook for the remainder of 2023, after which we will open the floor for Q and A. Please move to Slide 6. Before we get into the details, as I did last quarter, I'd to start with an overview of Redwire's high level positioning in the space industry.

Speaker 2

Redwire is an integrated pure play space infrastructure company with mission solutions and payloads for civil, commercial and national security space customers, And our mission is to accelerate humanity's expansion into space by delivering reliable, economical And sustainable infrastructure for future generations. With decades of proven flight heritage combined with innovative products and culture, Redwire is uniquely positioned to assist our customers in solving the complex challenges of future space missions and industries. Redwire has 3 primary areas of focus that form our business. Number 1, as a fully integrated mission enabler, Redwire is Powering space mission providers such as government agencies and large prime contractors with a broad portfolio of space infrastructure, Systems, subsystems and components that can be procured either as a single item your or in a tailored bundle for maximum supply chain efficiency. In addition to efficiency, this scalable model is currently solving some of our customers' most critical supply chain issues by providing resiliency and reliability.

Speaker 2

Number 2, Providing the infrastructure and technology needed for people to permanently explore, live and work in space, increasing our understanding of the moon, Mars and beyond as well as developing breakthrough commercial technologies for the benefit of life on your growth that can only be produced in microgravity. This area is generating real revenue and gross profit today. And lastly, supporting multinational access to space for countries that recognize space as a unique opportunity to build national prestige and accelerate economic development. We continually demonstrate our commitment to and expertise in our 3 key areas focus areas in a variety of ways, such as By having Redwire products on 2 launches in Q1, having developed 20 research facilities for the ISS with 10 currently operating on the ISS to deliver world leading research, possessing well over 100 years of flight heritage across our various legacy business businesses and growing to over 700 employees at 10 facilities in both the United States and Europe. Please turn to Slide 7.

Speaker 2

The Q1 of 2023 was another record quarter for Redwire. Your comments. Our revenues of $57,600,000 were the highest of any quarter to date. We achieved Positive adjusted EBITDA of $4,300,000 an improvement of $5,100,000 versus the Q4 of 2022 your and improved our net loss to $7,300,000 a significant improvement from the same period last year. More on that in a moment.

Speaker 2

We ended the quarter with contracted backlog of $286,800,000 As an administrative note, Starting with this quarter, we have switched from focusing on total backlog, which included both contracted and uncontracted backlog to simply reporting contracted backlog. There was no change in our calculation of contracted backlog from previous reporting, and we made this change to simplify reporting and increase comparability of the company's performance metrics with industry peers. Notably, in this quarter, we also launched 3 solutions on 2 launches, continuing our proven track record of delivering real flight heritage. Please turn to Slide 8. Meeting our previous record in the last quarter of 2022, Redwire's revenue growth achieved a new record level of 50 $7,600,000 during the Q1 of 2023.

Speaker 2

Year over year compared with the Q1 of 2022, Redwire's total revenue grew by 75.3%. And on a sequential basis, we grew Redwire's total revenue by 7 point 3% over our previous record revenue in Q4 of 2022. Notably, Even if you exclude revenue contributions from our acquisition of Space NV, Redwire revenues grew by 37 point 9% year over year, which demonstrates strong performance from our baseline operations in the same quarter last year. Please turn to Slide 9. Although strong revenue growth is very positive, we are not solely focused on top line growth.

Speaker 2

We are also focused on profitable growth. As such, we are pleased to report We have achieved a year over year improvement of net income on the order of a $10,000,000 positive move to the upside as our losses decreased from a $17,300,000 net loss in the Q1 of 2022 Moving to adjusted EBITDA. I am very pleased to report that our adjusted EBITDA has increased by $9,000,000 on a year over year basis. For this Q1 of 2023, we generated an adjusted EBITDA of positive 4,300,000 versus a negative $4,700,000 adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 of 2022. Achieving positive adjusted EBITDA for the first time as a public company is an important milestone and an outstanding accomplish outlook on both an absolute and percentage growth basis and has given us significant financial momentum heading into the remainder of 2023.

Speaker 2

This financial performance is driven by our proven ability to deliver differentiated solutions for our customers. Your Slide 10 to 15 share just a few examples of successes in the Q1 of 2023 that highlight the importance of our capabilities. For example, in Q1, the U. S. Space Force and SpaceX launched the GPS III SV-six satellite from Cape Canaveral, Florida with 2 complete Redwire Find Sensor Find Sun Sensor systems aboard.

Speaker 2

Your questions. Each sensor consisted of 4 fine sun sensor heads and 2 processor electronics. Redwire sun sensors your key navigational tools that provide sun acquisition, solar array pointing and fail safe recovery options For GPS III SV06 as it orbits 12,550 miles above the surface of the earth. Redwire has been a key supplier of critical sun sensors for more than 50 years, and this technology has enabled more than 70 NASA missions, your presentation. Please turn to Slide 11.

Speaker 2

Remarks. During the Q1 of 2023, Redwire delivered 2 more ROSA wings, numbers 56 to Boeing to be launched upcoming commercial resupply mission to the International Space Station. Today, 4 ROSA wings have been launched and installed and are Operating efficiently and effectively. With the addition of Winx 56, the overall power generating capability of the ISS participation. Redwire is also producing various modular versions of ROSA for many government and commercial spaceflight applications, including the power and propulsion element for NASA's Gateway program.

Speaker 2

Please turn to Slide 12. As I mentioned at the beginning of this presentation, Redwire is a leader when it comes to developing Breakthrough commercial intellectual property for the benefit of life on earth that can only be produced in microgravity. As an example, we are currently managing research in microgravity to discover a new type of electronic system. During Q1, 20 days of on orbit experiments were completed with the Redwire managed poor formation and mobility investigation facility As part of the asymmetric sawtooth and cavity enhanced nucleation driven transport investigation or PFMI Ascent. The findings of the PFMI Ascent Space Physics study will help with the design of passive cooling systems for spacecraft electronics, which are Please turn to Slide 13.

Speaker 2

As we enter a new era of space exploration and commercialization, your. Redwire is a leader in developing inspirational content with commercial thought leaders to inspire future generations. As an example, Redwire is collaborating with Microsoft to create a unique learning opportunity inspired by Marvel Studios' Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 to engage students in science, technology, engineering, the arts and mathematics topics, your including 3 d printing for future space exploration and microgravity R and D and manufacturing for the benefit of humanity. In conjunction with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Redwire and Microsoft have produced an engaging educational video To motivate the next generation of astronauts, engineers and scientists.

Speaker 2

In addition, through a sponsorship from the ISS your. National Laboratory, Redwire and Microsoft intend to 3 d print a Microsoft Zune on the ISS using Redwire's additive manufacturing facility to illustrate space based manufacturing in an engaging way. Redwire has manufactured more than 200 parts in space and is the only company currently providing commercial 3 d printing on the ISS, Redwire was the natural choice to 3 d print Star Wars soon. On the right side of this highly visible digital cube display in Times Square in New York City promoting the Marvel, Microsoft and Redwire team. It is important to note that this effort was not a paid promotion by Redwire, but rather we were a paid

Speaker 3

partner as part of Microsoft's plan

Speaker 2

to leverage the power of your plan to leverage the power of space in their branding. We believe this is an excellent template for future Redwire offerings to provide space based branding content for other commercial partners. For more information on this effort, please visit zune.net. Please turn to Slide 14. Space is a multinational endeavor and Redwire Space is a global leader in international space missions.

Speaker 2

Participation in the Q1 of 2023, Redwire Space Europe fully integrated 2 European Space Agency Proba 3 spacecraft that will perform the world's first precision formation flying mission. In the Proba 3 mission, 2 small satellites will launch together and separate and maintaining a specific your progress and progress on the earth. On this program, Redwire is building and integrating the satellites themselves To include developing the onboard computer and advanced avionics, this mission is important improving orbital formation flying technologies and rendezvous experiments for future science, astronomy and earth observation missions that will require satellites to seamlessly cooperate Next, I'd like to highlight a Redwire Space Europe project that kicked off during the Q1 of 2023, a 3 d bioprinting system. We have discussed Redwire's NASA funded biofabrication facility on previous earnings calls, but this is a completely different mission funded by the European Space your questions. Redwire Space NV was awarded a €14,000,000 contract to design, develop expanding its leadership of in space manufacturing and bioprinting on the International Space Station for exploration Turning back to the numbers.

Speaker 2

Our bookings during the Q1 were $29,700,000 However, as a reminder, call. And the Q1 historically is usually the lowest of the year. Using a longer period of measure to smooth out the lumpiness, As of Q1 2023, our last 12 month book to bill ratio was 1.6. I'd like to point out that during the Q1 of 2023, Redwire made two changes with respect to our key performance indicators. 1st, we changed to using contracted backlog only.

Speaker 2

2nd, we changed the book to bill calculation to present this metric comments on a last 12 months or LTM basis, whereas prior period disclosures were presented on a year to date basis. Ability of the company's performance metrics with industry peers. Finally, as you can see from the bar chart on the right hand side of this slide, Our contracted backlog has more than doubled since March 31, 2022 last year to a contracted backlog call at the end of Q1 2023 of $286,800,000 This 108.8 percent Growth in contracted backlog is one factor that gives us confidence in our future growth and stability. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Jonathan Balas, Redwire's Chief Financial Officer. Jonathan?

Speaker 3

Thank you. Please turn to Slide 17. Before we begin the financial section, I'd like to highlight the picture shown on Slide 17. This is the Redwire Managed Plant Habitat 3 Experiment on the ISS. The ability to grow fresh crops in space will be critical for exploring, living and working in space, one of the three focus areas for Redwire that Pete talked about.

Speaker 3

Redwire is doing critical work now And earning revenue and gross profit now to support Space Industries, including the agricultural industry in orbit. Your Please turn to Slide 18. Similar to last quarter, I will help quantify and expound on a number of first quarter 2023 themes that Pete just talked about, including: 1, key financial takeaways, starting with quarterly revenue here on the right hand chart And then continuing with other quarterly financial information. And 2, a brief update to our financial outlook for the remainder of the year. Key points to reiterate in detail for this quarter's financials.

Speaker 3

1, Redwire's excellence and execution initiatives continue to deliver on our promise and path to profitability as we scale our business with record revenues and record gross profit. We are providing our government and marquee customers with critical, proven and differentiated space infrastructure and payloads from the ROSA wings, the GPS III SV06 sun sensors To the PFMI Ascent and 3 d Biosystem Facility. These and other solutions, digital engineering and payloads created in our over 300,000 square feet of facilities by our outstanding team members across the globe drove this Q1 2023 revenue public company and record positive adjusted EBITDA overall. In the Q1 of 2023, Redwire has continued to win and deliver More profitable contracts to more than double gross profit, but we are also doing this more efficiently as we drove more operating leverage into the business with absolute and percentage reductions in operating expenses and SG and A this quarter. Turning to revenue.

Speaker 3

As you can see from the chart on the right, we had $57,600,000 for the Q1 of 2023 versus $53,700,000 for the Q4 of 2022, representing an increase of 7.3% on a sequential basis. Your progress. On a year over year basis, this represents 75.3% increase over revenues of $32,900,000 in the Q1 of 2022. Excluding the revenue contributed by Space NV, our first quarter revenues were $45,300,000 a comparable 37.9% increase over Q1 2022 revenues. This almost 40% growth is an important milestone as historically The Q1 has generally been a lower revenue growth quarter.

Speaker 3

We were able to achieve this in the legacy U. S. Businesses due to the significant growth in backlog, not just due to the excellent partnership and acquisition of Space NV, as you will see on the next slide, but also as our government business expanded, Over 85% of our revenue is derived from funded government programs or from global marquee customers. Your time. Please turn to Slide 19.

Speaker 3

Continuing with revenue. This is our year to date revenue slide for fiscal year 2023. So So given it is our Q1, the growth is identical to the previous slide. But let's discuss the makeup of that growth. First, Redwire saw year over year revenue growth across all the 3 primary focus areas, whether it be space systems as an integrated space mission enabler or payloads to explore, live and work in space or with Redwire Europe with our multinational space leadership.

Speaker 3

All focus areas saw growth year over year. From a customer perspective, again, all customer types, National Security, Civil and Commercial grew on a year over year basis. To remind you on the call of these types, Civil customers are with civilian space agencies like NASA, ESA or the Luxembourg Space Agency. National Security revenue is derived from U. S.

Speaker 3

And Allied Countries' defense or security departments and ministries like Space Force, SDA and Air Force Research Labs. Finally, commercial revenue is derived from predominantly large marquee global prime aerospace systems and service providers. Remarks. And it's important to note that this commercial type of revenue is mostly derived from funded government programs that ultimately face a national security or civil space entity. Of note for this quarter, our commercial revenues have seen the largest percentage increase, more than 129% year over year.

Speaker 3

So our customer diversity is balanced, especially now that our customer types include a larger portion globally. Please turn to Slide 20. Revenue Redwire's path to profitability continued successfully in this quarter, As you can see from the progress made on the chart on the right, with a steady march of quarterly financial improvement in 2022, now continuing in 2023, With growth we discussed on the previous slides leading to more profitable growth over the past year. Under U. S.

Speaker 3

GAAP, we had a significant improvement, $10,000,000 improvement from a net loss of $17,300,000 a year ago to a net loss of $7,300,000 during the Q1 of 2023. And sequentially, we improved even more compared to the Q4 of 2022. We also saw our quarterly adjusted EBITDA improve your earnings release. $9,000,000 year over year to a positive $4,300,000 an improvement of 193%. And sequentially, this positive $4,300,000 Was an improvement of $5,100,000 over the Q4 of 2022.

Speaker 3

This adjusted EBITDA improvement was primarily driven by our improvement in Redwire gross profit. Our excellence in execution initiatives, the roll off of lower margin contracts, better labor utilization, Better program management and cost control increased our year over year gross margin from 15.7% to 24.7% your with our year over year gross profit nearly 3x higher from $5,200,000 to $14,200,000 The adjusted EBITDA improvement was also supported by being more efficient with our indirect operating expenses. 1st quarter Redwire SG and A your year over year improvement occurred on both an absolute and percentage of revenue basis. Absolute SG and A declined 23.4 percent From $21,000,000 in the Q1 of 2022 to $16,000,000 in the Q1 of 2023 and now stands at 27.8 percent of revenue. This you.

Speaker 3

This represents a significant drop from Redwire's Q1 of 2022 SG and A Margins. Please turn to Slide 21. Similar to our Q4, on the left hand chart, we show free cash flow. As a reminder, free cash flow provides a perspective based on our operating cash flow and CapEx unadjusted for one time items. As you can see, during the Q1 of 2023, free cash flow consumption increased to a use of cash of $14,800,000 compared with the Q4 of 20 22's $5,500,000 your comments.

Speaker 3

Although we saw significant improvement in our profit and loss statement, the sequential increase in free cash flow consumption was driven by a historic increase in net working capital driven by our top line growth and given the significant backlog growth going into 2023. Your This quarter's consumption was very different from last year's as the cash consumption was attributable last year to losses due to a significantly lower gross profit and much higher SG and A. This quarter's net working capital build was the primary result of growth in our contracted assets and decrease in our deferred revenue. Your comments. And since the end of March, we're seeing much less cash consumption with a notable reduction in net working capital.

Speaker 3

Redwire's management remains very focused on improvement trend in our free cash flow as we execute on the revenue growth conversion of our $287,000,000 On the right hand chart, we show our available liquidity as of March 31, 2023, which totaled $36,300,000 This quarter's liquidity is much improved from a year ago as we continued our path profitability. And again, since the end of Q1, we are seeing much less cash consumption with a notable reduction in net working capital. Your comments. Finally, given our improved financial position, especially our improvement in gross profit and adjusted EBITDA and effective May 1, The company met the requirements to end the incremental 2% PIK interest required under our credit facility with Adams Street Partners. This achievement saves significant expense and is a direct result of the global Redwire team's commercial and operational successes leading to an excellent start to the year that Pete and I have been discussing throughout this call.

Speaker 3

I will now turn the presentation back over to Pete to provide a brief outlook for the remainder of 2023. Please turn to Slide 22.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jonathan. Please turn to Slide 23 for a brief reminder of the outlook for the remainder of 2023. Remarks. Our most recent Q1 was a strong start to the year. As a result, for 2023, we affirm that we expect our full year revenue With that, I'd like to thank all of the Redwire employees for an excellent first quarter.

Speaker 2

Thank you for all the hard work you do across the world every day to accelerate humanity's expansion in this space.

Operator

And we'll take our first question from Mike Crawford from B. Riley. Please go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 4

Your Thank you. Just to start off where we left off, I was hoping we could go a little bit further into your outlook where you're talking about Better program management, cost control to increase gross margin and you expect gross margin improvement during the year. But Do you expect I know there's a big range of products with like Sun Sensors on the lower side and ROSA on the higher side, but What more can you tell us about gross margin percentages that you're targeting directionally for the rest of this year? Maybe we could start with that.

Speaker 2

Your Hey, Mike, how are you? Thanks for your question. So that was a lot. So I'm just going to the gross margin part because I think that was the your sense of it. Yes, as you can see, we're significantly improving our gross margin over time.

Speaker 2

And some of the reason for this is, you. If you think about the history of Redwire, one of the built in systemic efficiencies that we're able to achieve systems through things like ERP implementations and taking a hard look The gross margins and the pricing power that we can achieve by going to market in the integrated bundles and things like that as a much larger company. So All of those different improvements are what you see happening in gross margins your to date and the improvements that you see there. And then, we expect to continue to be able to improve on those your gross margins as we continue into the future. And that's essentially the plan because I can tell you some of the really unique technologies that we have that are Highly differentiated like you mentioned ROSA have increasing pricing power in the marketplace and are gaining much wider adoption

Speaker 3

From 15.7% to 24.7%. I would say that level of improvement is aspirational, Mike. I know you want a specific number, We do believe we can start moving this gross margin into from not just from the mid-20s, but higher than that. It's just from a I mean standpoint, just being able to do that in 3, 4 months, it takes a number of months to do it, but we have an intent to do it. We're seeing the performance improvement.

Speaker 3

This is a 65% improvement over gross margin even last quarter. I just want to warn you that Being able to get that level of improvement on a quarter over quarter basis is more aspirational. I do believe we can get there. Just I wouldn't want to put it all in 2023.

Speaker 4

Your And to that end, I do know there's a wide variance in margin on different your products that you're delivering. And so it's not necessarily going to be a straight line. Is that correct?

Speaker 3

That's right, Mike. When we look at it, it's a bit of a product mix. But I would say across all of our focus areas, whether it The enabling space missions and space industries with the payloads and then Europe, we're improving margins across the board because of the excellence and execution that Pete talked about. And so in certain areas, you're seeing improvement. And as we again see the roll off of older contracts that people that Pete talked about, you just start to see that positive impact Create kind of a virtuous cycle.

Speaker 4

Okay. And just one more on this, if you don't mind. I I think you mentioned 300,000 square feet of space, a lot of that manufacturing. And how much room your Redwire had to grow before you have to have significant CapEx which was under $1,000,000 in the quarter.

Speaker 2

Your Yes. No, great question. No, I think that there's a healthy amount of growth in that space that's already out there. As you know, a lot of our your Facilities and not necessarily facilities, but our capabilities that would otherwise be CapEx is paid your capabilities. I think we're we have what we need to achieve the goals we've outlined for 2023.

Speaker 4

Your Okay. Thanks. One

Speaker 3

of the reasons we're seeing margin improvement is we're efficiently using these facilities.

Speaker 4

Okay. And again, I do reference the question with I know there's a mix issue on revenue, so you can't answer regarding EBITDA, but I would think it's fair to assume a steady

Speaker 2

So the SG and A there's still opportunities to continue to improve on our SG and A as a percentage of revenue. So in an absolute basis as your Revenue grows, of course, SG and A will grow as well. But we're very focused on maintaining SG and A in a level your commensurate to our revenue that achieves our overall profit objectives. I think The broader idea is would be within SG and A of the swing in your internal research and development and how much we spend on that. That will be more variable based on the number of opportunities that we have

Operator

Thank you. And we'll take our next question from Greg Konrad from Jefferies. Please go ahead, Greg.

Speaker 5

Good morning and great quarter. Lee, EBITDA was very strong in the quarter. I mean, you talked about some of the drivers. You had the EACs last year And some mix. I mean, how are you thinking about just sustainability on an EBITDA perspective, just given tailwinds, headwinds through the year?

Speaker 5

I mean, should we expect your To remain positive from an EBITDA perspective for the rest of the year?

Speaker 2

So again, just to kind of expand a little bit more on the last question. So there is a fair amount of Efficiency that we can continue to pull out just through excellence and execution. And that is Kind of our broad nomenclature for this idea of enhancing our delivery systems through a more disciplined approach than perhaps some of the legacy your organizations and some of the legacy projects that comprise Redwire as as we came together over the last couple of years. So there's amount of profitability that we can pull out of that and that of course is Typically tied to the EACs. However, there's also what we Are doing from a strategic perspective because when you look at our growth rate, 30% plus growth rate There's a lot of demand out there on the marketplace that we don't want to miss out on if it required some sort of IRAD investment.

Speaker 2

So the swing factor in EBITDA for us is going to be steady increases in Efficiencies, but throttling up or down IRAD based on the opportunities that are presented throughout the year. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, so there's some variability when you think out In the plan based on internal actions, which are going to be a little bit harder to forecast. But typically there's some sequential build through the year. And if I just look at the midpoint of your revenue outlook, It kind of implies that revenues are kind of flat sequentially through the year, obviously on a good Q1. Are there any puts or takes there?

Speaker 5

Can you maybe talk about the dynamics there just thinking about kind of how you built up the year's revenue outlook?

Speaker 2

Your Yes. No, it's interesting. One of the things we're very focused on is making sure that we look at the right time period and we don't react to things. Your And this is especially important for a company like Redwire because we have programs and products that can materially move the needle on any given quarter, right? For example, we mentioned and Mike mentioned we have everything from the fine sun sensors all the way to the ROSAs.

Speaker 2

We have opportunities in the pipeline That are really big. And depending on when those hit, which can be difficult to predict, both in the government and the commercial sector based on their spending profiles. So quarter to quarter, it's a lot More difficult to predict than year over year. So what we're really focused on is if you go back to the idea that your Excluding Space NV, we grew 37.9% last year. Our midpoint For this year is to grow 46%, a midpoint on the range that we gave.

Speaker 2

So The focus is really on having that 30% to 40% revenue growth year over year. And When it actually occurs, it can be more challenging to predict.

Speaker 5

And then maybe just lastly, You talked about some of the two changes around your KPIs. It looks like the pipeline is still healthy, but stepped Down quite a bit sequentially. What accounted for that, whether it was submitted bids or just evolution of programs moving in and out? And And just how you're thinking about the pipeline more broadly?

Speaker 2

Jonathan, you want to?

Speaker 3

Yes. It's just mathematics. Right now, we have Pipeline that's roughly 5 years. So we're coming into 2023. So now we extended out a year, right?

Speaker 3

And there's no doubt that there There are going to be a filling of that pipeline in 'twenty eight. As we go through the year and the same thing happened last year, you'll start to see the pipeline start to move, right? So it's just a mathematics. We're shifting it out a year. And in that year, a lot of the $600,000,000 actually has found its way into backlog, Right.

Speaker 3

So a lot of what you see in this company, which is it's pretty special. You can see the pipeline turn into contracts that we're bidding on, turn into backlog, Turning to revenue and now you're seeing we have a path to profitability with this gross margin moving up, right? And we continue again, there was a focus on the last your analyst on gross margin. That's the place to look. That's where we're trying to really move the needle from the mid-20s, get that higher with the your idea that we're taking this larger pipeline, turning it into backlog revenue, obviously, on our path to profitability to free cash flow, too.

Speaker 3

Make sense?

Speaker 5

Make sense.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Any other questions, Doug?

Operator

Apologies.

Speaker 5

Okay, Craig. I can throw in more if you'd like.

Speaker 3

You had I thought you were going to have another one, but go ahead.

Speaker 5

I'll throw in one more quick one. Can you maybe just talk about that €14,000,000 contract announced under ESA For the 3 d Biosystems, I think you did mention Space NV, but I know you also have quite a bit of 3 d printing technology before that. Can you maybe just talk about the legacy position and kind of cross sell opportunities that you're seeing with that business?

Speaker 2

Your Yes, absolutely. Well, so it's a good point in terms of taking a capability and moving beyond just the U. S. To a much larger total addressable market worldwide, right? So Redwire was already previously the leader in bio manufacturing on orbit With our BFF, this creates expands our leadership to more of a global And I think the most critical factor here and this applies to Redwire's business overall is There's a certain point in the company's history where it transitions from being about flying single experiments To actually building a business.

Speaker 2

And I think that's what you're seeing here in your The biomanufacturing specifically is there may be startups and of course many years ago Some of these technologies started in start ups, so it's an important part of the ecosystems. But the start up typically is flying Single experiments, right, in order to prove out a technology. And in this particular case, what's really exciting about the 3 d bioprinting coming out of So when added to the BFF, the biofabrication facility already funded by NASA, as you can see that this is shifting from being single experiment offerings to like a full offering within Redwire with multiple customers. So it's really about scaling and building technical momentum in an area And that's what I think is probably most exciting to us about when you see us combining these These technologies and leveraging the broader Redwire expertise in this area to grow that segment as your Not just an area where we're pushing technology, but a business offering that generates real revenue and profitability.

Speaker 5

I will officially leave it at that. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Craig. Thanks, Craig.

Operator

And our next question comes from Suji Desilva from ROTH MKM. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi Peter. Hi Jonathan. Congratulations on hitting EBITDA positive. Great accomplishment there. Questions there.

Speaker 6

Thank

Speaker 3

you, Sajid.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 6

Yes, looking at the revenue lines, just trying to understand this, I mean, it's a very hard question to answer, but you have you cited metrics for the number of launches and the systems in there and then also some of the Sun Sensor systems and the ROSA systems. I'm just curious, Is there a way to think about an ASP kind of a revenue per here as you start to do more of these systems and provide those kind of unit metrics at least? Is it just all over the map and hard to really trace out that way?

Speaker 2

Go ahead, Jonathan.

Speaker 3

So Suji, first of I appreciate the question. And we do have obviously unit economics. We have a very good idea of it. We generally don't present those because of competitive reasons, Right. That's we can say that we are bidding and winning larger contracts that you're seeing directly in the improvement of margin to 24.7 percent in the Q1, but we don't provide unit economics yet due to competitive reasons.

Speaker 3

However, We are going to be moving towards what I call a Red Wire 101 and being able to talk to the investment community concerning unit economics Based on our enabling space missions, explore, live and work in space and then obviously our European but really global business with multinationals. So we will be able To do that in the future, but right now, we don't give the specifics on different product areas, for competitive reasons, which is common in the aerospace industry.

Speaker 6

Appreciate the sensitivity there. And then my other question is on a longer term business model perhaps. I mean, you have this Payload business and the EISA contract, the first milestone EUR14,000,000 Is there an opportunity for that business model to evolve longer term into a type of revenue share or per unit type of or some sort of business like that versus staying a contract business with milestone payments?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think that's right. So as the market evolves, You're going to see a lot more activity in commercial space, which is going to generate a lot of different new ways of providing value. So right now typically a lot of these Things like a bioprinter, for instance, is funded through a government organization as a project Like the €14,000,000 we're having out of EASA, but that's not the ultimately goal either for Redwire or EASA for that matter. What they're trying to do is stimulate that economy in space, where commercial organizations like Redwire can have major breakthroughs on Things like being able to print organoids that are really important to the pharmaceutical industry For cell manufacturing or on the in space manufacturing side, some of the work that we've done with forming crystals your For Pharmaceuticals. So ultimately, Redwire in a way gets 2 bites of the apple.

Speaker 2

We get paid to develop these technologies as the government pushes the your key technologies necessary for future space exploration and microgravity research,

Speaker 4

your thoughts.

Speaker 3

Thank you. It's important to note that we're getting there and the margins on this business could be quite high. If we look at the ability, again, I'm going back to gross margin. You talk About the ability to generate higher gross margin this quarter versus 2022 Q1, a lot of it was due to that Floor, live and work in space.

Speaker 2

But mostly driven by the traditional business model of being paid by government customers.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's great. Thanks for the preview of the business model to come, guys. Appreciate it. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Again, I'd like to thank everybody for joining the call and reiterate Just how proud Redwire is of our employees for delivering a great Q1 and looking forward to the remainder of 2023. Thank you, and questions. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation.

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