OTCMKTS:BTCY Biotricity Q4 2023 Earnings Report $0.49 -0.01 (-1.60%) As of 05/5/2025 12:04 PM Eastern Earnings History Biotricity EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.54Consensus EPS -$0.54Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/ABiotricity Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$2.74 millionExpected Revenue$2.60 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$140.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABiotricity Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date6/29/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, June 30, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Biotricity Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJune 30, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Biotricity's Fiscal 2023 First Quarter and Full Year Financial Results and Business Update Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Deborah Chen, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am. Speaker 100:00:21Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Biotricity's fiscal 2023 4th quarter and full year earnings conference call. As a reminder, Viotricity's 2023 fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, So all figures presented for this period will reflect that end date. Earlier today, Bioelectricity issued its fiscal 2023 Q4 and full year press Release, which highlighted financial and operational results. A copy of a press release is available on the Investor Relations section of Biotricity's website and full financials have been filed with the SEC on Form 10 ks and posted on EDGAR at www.sec.gov. Before beginning the company's formal remarks, I'd like to remind listeners that today's discussion may contain forward looking statements that reflect management's current views With respect to future events, any such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:26Bio Tricity does not undertake to update any forward looking statements set as required. At this point, I'm pleased to turn the call over to BioTricity's Founder and CEO, Doctor. Waqas Al Saddiq. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:41Thank you, Deborah, and thank you everybody for joining us today for our 2023 fiscal year conference call. I'll cover our fiscal year financial and operational highlights and then turn the call over to John for a discussion of our Q4 financials. I will then discuss our sales strategy and outlook and open the call for your questions. We finished the fiscal year on a strong note, driving revenue 26% higher year over year to 9,630,000 while our gross profit rose 19 percent to $5,400,000 While these solidly rising numbers show strong progress, I'm equally as pleased to report our decreasing We produced 26% robust revenue growth while reducing yes, actually reducing our SG and A by 5% to $17,600,000 And that disciplined cost structure management, along with the strong growth across the board, enable us to lower our net loss by over a third or 35.4 percent, down by $10,700,000 to 19,500,000 We managed to accomplish all that while sustaining a healthy gross margin of 57%, which declined just 3% from a year ago, but for important strategic reasons that I will unpack in just a minute. As you can see, we are relentlessly in pursuit of positive cash flow, and our numbers demonstrate that we are making excellent progress It should be readily apparent that we are scaling our business as well. Speaker 200:03:07Now for our revenue and margins. Our revenue sources go into 3 buckets. 1st and foremost, we have technology fees. This is the recurring subscription service fees generated by our Diagnostics and Biosphere Services. For fiscal year 2023, 91% of our total revenue was comprised of technology fees, which rose a hefty 49% year over year at a 70% gross margin, which has been consistent at this level year over year for the past 2 years. Speaker 200:03:37In part, its strong growth reflects our extraordinary customer retention rate of 98%, which in one simple single number speaks volumes about our customer and cardiology friendly solutions, superior device hardware and tech services, ease of use and superior diagnostics. We are continuing to strengthen this retention rate through continuous improvement and expansion of our usage and implementation of AI to strengthen automation and enhance our cardiac disease solutions. As a side note, I recently read that the more times the CEO says AI on an earnings call, the better the share price performs. I'm not so sure about that, but for our newer shareholders, I will point out that we've been actively discussing how Biotricity is deploying AI across our company, from customer service to diagnostics, for well over a year, and we have been actively developing AI for several years now. The most recent occasion was during our Q3 2023 call, which was before WallStreetBlueAI up to become the next big thing. Speaker 200:04:37Back to revenue margins. After technology fees, our second revenue bucket is device sales. As it sounds, That is sales of our proprietary hardware, which like our software is all designed in house. In fiscal 2023, device sales comprised 9% of our total revenue. We also have a 3rd bucket called service related and other revenue, which is entirely opportunistic. Speaker 200:05:01We do not book any revenue in this category in 2023 versus 7 As our technology fees have been so strong and our customer retention so high, we decided to lower the pricing on our devices to near and at times less than our cost. We did this opportunistically and to gain market share, lower the customers' net cost of entry into our biosphere and to incrementally increase our recurring technology fees with its 70% gross margin. Like the old Razer razorblade sales strategy, it seems some principles in business are timeless. Our pricing strategy, along with solid recurring revenue gross margins and high customer retention, is continuing to produce the growth we planned. From a 70% gross margin on technology fees, our pricing strategy diluted our blended gross margin down to 57%. Speaker 200:05:57However, our device sales are earned and recognized upfront. Further, we anticipate the technology fee component of gross margins to continue to grow, outpacing device sales and pulling the blended gross margin higher, all while our growth continues to scale and we capture increasing market share. With that, I will turn the call over to our CFO, John Iyantoglu. Speaker 300:06:19Thank you, Wakash. Since Wakash just covered the fiscal year numbers in his discussion of key operational matters, I will hit the fiscal 2023 Q4 highlights, which are unaudited. Our technology as a service subscription based recurring revenue from our cardiac devices is continuing to ramp up. Revenue for the Q4 ended March 31, 2023 increased 27.6% year over year to 2,740,000 Exceeding the typical young company growth curve, I note that the 4th quarter revenue of fiscal 2022 also grew at practically the same rate 27.4% over the Q4 of 2021. Our blended gross margin in the quarter just ended was 57%, which is lower than the 67% in the year earlier quarter, primarily due to lower pricing on our device hardware, which will cost us to discuss. Speaker 300:07:14Although I also note that even so, it is still a strong improvement from the gross margin in the Q4 of 2021. Technology fee gross margins were steady at 71% and comprised 93% of the quarter's total revenue. As Wacast pointed out, this bodes very well for future margins since SaaS based recurring technology fees will be an ever increasing proportion of our sales mix, notwithstanding the fact that we are also engaging in efforts to contain and improve our costs in our COGS. Gross profit totaled $1,500,000 up 7% from $1,400,000 a year ago. Net loss decreased 19% year over year for $4,900,000 or $0.09 per share from net loss of $6,000,000 or 0.11.8 As we anticipated in our Q3 call, we are now seeing the corresponding inflection in our financial growth trajectory. Speaker 300:08:22I will now turn the call back over to Wakash for his closing comments. Speaker 200:08:26Thank you, John, for that report. I'll cover a few highlights of our fiscal 2023 accomplishments and then provide some forward looking guidance. As a convenience for our customers, we recently launched Android and iOS versions of our Cardiac Monitor smartphone apps in the Google and Apple App Stores. Depending on the cardiac device to which they are tethered, these apps display and interpret the customers' data in an easy to understand graphics as well as providing a gateway into our secure cloud based Biosphere portal. Back to everyone's other favorite subject, AI. Speaker 200:08:59In our 2nd fiscal quarter of last year, we announced we will be conducting an NIH sponsored Phase 1 study of BioFlex AI, our innovative AI system that we will now customize for predictive detection of stroke in patients with chronic kidney disease. Then in February of this year, we were one of the only 8 companies selected to present at the 2nd Annual Innovation Showcase during the American Stroke Association 2023 International Stroke Conference in Dallas in collaboration with the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute and the National Institute For neurological disorders and stroke. We presented our ongoing work on stroke prediction in chronic kidney disease patients, supported by our previously awarded NIH grant. Our ongoing research is on optimizing our AI for predictive stroke analytics in patients with chronic kidney disease. In addition to the honor and high visibility gain from being selected to help lead an advanced AI based clinical study under NIH, This greatly expands Bio Tricity's horizons with the added experience, expertise and contacts within NIH to develop similar future AI programs for other serious My third point here relates to our sales strategy. Speaker 200:10:12We have slowly meticulously built our national sales and sales support One carefully considered industry professional at a time, and that is paying off handsomely. Now we have expanded our network to over 3 50 centers across 31 states with over 2,500 physicians, which is rather remarkable considering that we launched our first product in a competitive industry just 4 years ago. A year ago, we had a plan, but couldn't really discuss upselling our customer base because we had one product commercialized. Now we have 4. When you have 98% customer retention, upselling is a natural and seamless activity as our customers' needs evolve. Speaker 200:10:51For example, A patient may have a cardiac symptom and warn our BioFlux for diagnosis and then been cleared with good heart health by the cardiologist. But with that now heightened awareness, those customers may want a simpler consumer device for basic preventative cardiac wellness monitoring to ensure their heart health is optimal, especially relative to whatever symptoms sent them to the cardiologist in the 1st place. Conversely, the physician of a patient wearing one of our monitors who is newly diagnosed with a potentially serious heart condition will order ongoing remote lifestyle monitoring for that patient, such as moving that patient from our BioFlux device to our Bioheart monitor. Upselling a second BioTrusty product to our installed customer base reduces sales cycles, leaving it to the customer to input their preferred levels of services and reports. A repeat customer takes much less biopsy time and resources than a first time customer. Speaker 200:11:46The fact is our repeat customer upsells are far more bought than they are ever sold. On a final note, I'll provide some color for our outlook. Last quarter, I stated that our gross margin is an important leading indicator of our future profitability. Now as our business is advancing with a longer and stronger track record, I can tell you that even better than gross margins, our technology fee revenue is our best leading indicator of future growth. Separately, as recently as last month, we reported reaching certain annualized revenue run rates. Speaker 200:12:18In May, we announced we had reached $13,000,000 run rate in April. To clarify, that simply means we take a designated full calendar month's revenue and multiply it by 12. With a 98% retention rate, our forward looking revenue is simply the latest month multiplied by 12, not including any additional sales or growth. New sales and growth are additive, making the last month multiplied by 12 the base case outlook. That then produces an annualized revenue run rate that is the same as we use in our internal models as we strive to be more transparent and keep our shareholders informed. Speaker 200:12:54Looking ahead, reaching positive cash flow is a top priority, which we are aiming to achieve by the end of calendar year 2024. I will qualify that by saying, if we see a low risk, High reward opportunity for investment to produce a much greater positive impact on our value than the cost of pushing back our cash flow target, We will evaluate those competing priorities and do what's best for our shareholders in the long run. With John closing the books on our 1st fiscal quarter, I can report our growth steadily accelerating, if a bit unevenly with key metrics all trending favorably. I would now like to open up the call for questions. Operator00:13:30Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to remove your question from the queue. One moment please while we Speaker 200:14:00poll for questions. Operator00:14:12Thank you. Our first question comes from Kevin Dede with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:14:20Hi, Wokaus, John. Thanks for taking my call. Appreciate it. Curious, curious, if you could just peel back the onion a little bit more on The fee contribution revenue given the 4 product lines, It'd be interesting to hear how your customers transition Right, through that upselling process and how that reflects on your service fee income? Speaker 200:15:03Yes, for sure. So, great question, Kevin. In terms of Our product line, so couple of those products are very new, right. So let's focus on the one that we launched in May of last Right, BioTrey. So BioTrey as a product, it has grown and we expect it to be at a $2,000,000 run rate We're seeing 15 months of launch. Speaker 200:15:29We launched in May. So we're probably another 2, 3 months, to maybe I should say 15 months to 16 months, it will be at a $2,000,000 run rate. Now to compare that to BioFlux, it took us 30 months to get to a $2,000,000 run rate on the BioFlux. And that business is already at a $12,000,000 run rate today. So we're it's certainly The strategy of taking a new product and adding it to our ecosystem and selling it into the ecosystem As a vertical strategy to go deeper into the accounts is certainly bearing fruit. Speaker 200:16:05The speed of acquisition in our Statement and that we've been talking about and saying that it's going to be faster, that's also true. And the cost of the sales since it's already an Customer and the onboarding process and everything related to that is pretty minimal. So all of those things, if you take in this trend for this product and you apply that to the other two products that were now We have launched in the early part of this year. We expect a similar thing to happen, but every product has its You know, uptake rate, they have their own, reimbursement and business model. In generally, our business model is always the same as technology. Speaker 200:16:53What I mean is like reimbursement rates are different, right? Our BioFlux reimbursement rates are significantly different than our BioTrey reimbursements rate in terms of what reimbursements are linked to that technology. So adoption rates can be different, but the strategy of selling into the account, the Strategy of that generating an additional revenue line item and going deeper into the accounts and reducing that cost of onboarding Okay. On boarding the customer, that is all holding true. Speaker 400:17:26Okay. Well, Hush, thank you. Can we take a step back then and aside from BioFlex and BioTrace, what are the other products that Encompass your full product line and give us an update on where you're going On kidney disease detection, given you've done a lot of work on the AI side in predicting stroke based on kidney function? Speaker 200:18:00Yes, absolutely. So, answering the first part of your question, so we have BioFlux, which is our Smart Cardiac Monitor, right, that is analyzing ECG data while you are is our passive recording product, which is the more of the Holter And those are our 2 diagnostic solutions and those products are used they're prescribed by the physician and They're rotational. So they go on patient A, they come back, they get cleaned up, they go and they're put on patient B. Then we shift into, Biocare, which is our chronic care management and remote patient monitoring platform. So this is about, okay, you get diagnosed on the BioFlux or the bio tray. Speaker 200:18:45Now you have to be managed. So just as a diabetic is managed, right, for the rest of their life, cardiac disease has no cure. You have to manage that patient. So That is a cardiac disease management platform that also has additional biometrics that you can record like blood pressure cuff, weight information other metrics related to the patient. But ultimately it's about the doctor tracking the patient month over month, making sure the patient is taking their medications, Their data and they're not deteriorating. Speaker 200:19:11And that is a per patient concept, right? So instead of rotating between patients, it's Per patient. So you diagnose the patient and then you go into a biocare ecosystem and now you manage that patient. That is also reimbursable, but It's a lot less from a reimbursement perspective, right? So it's reoccurring versus recurring type of 1 is rotational, 1 is a per month per patient, but it's significantly less. Speaker 200:19:38We're talking the doctors billing $50 to $100 Per patient per month. So, whereas with BioFlux and BioCare you can get to economies of scale and profitability from a clinic perspective very quickly. The Bio Care requires investment and time from the clinic perspective to get economies of skill and to get enough patients on boarded. The last solution that we have is Bioheart, which is a lifestyle consumer product really targeted for stable cardiac patients. So again, BioFlux Bio, Trey, you identify the patient and you say, hey, this patient is stable or unstable. Speaker 200:20:17If they're unstable, you want them into disease management. If they're stable, you still want to see them, but you don't need to see them as regularly. So the doctor can recommend the Bioheart product. And that is a lifestyle Solution that the patient can use on a personal basis and use it to manage themselves efficiently and effectively in between physician visits. So those are the 4 products, right? Speaker 200:20:42So we got the Bioheart, the BioCare ecosystem for chronic disease management, the BioTree for Holter monitoring and For Smart Monitoring. And then the last part of your question Speaker 300:20:54Go ahead. Speaker 200:20:54Sorry, go ahead. Yes, yes, yes. So Speaker 400:20:58as you talk about kidney disease, maybe you can refresh my memory on where Biotricity stands on delivering products to monitor kidney disease. Speaker 200:21:13Yes. So what we're doing on the kidney disease side is, so think of it from our strategic perspective, right? So we came out, you've known us few years, right. We said, hey, we're going into cardiac diagnostics, but we're really want to build a platform company, right. And deal with the cardiac patient Holistically through that entire condition, right? Speaker 200:21:31So now we've completed that journey, right? And then during that process, we also said, hey, What else are we looking at? Well, we're looking at where our cardiologists are getting referrals from, right? So what does that mean? That means Another patient whose primary doctor is not the cardiologist, it's some other specialist, but that patient now has they also have a risk for cardiac issues. Speaker 200:21:54So We get a lot of referrals from nephrologists, which are kidney dialysis patients that also have a heightened risk cardiac issues, right? But they're not getting cardiac screenings because nephrologists don't necessarily have access to, technology or they don't always have a referral, set up a cardiologist, they're just openly setting it up. And these patients, you know, if you're getting dialyzed, you're getting, you're in and out of the clinic 3 times a week. So, the last thing you want to do is then go to other doctor's office. So the idea was and the idea we were focusing on is take Our existing monitoring device, so we take BioFlux and BioTrain. Speaker 200:22:33We improve and Specialize our cardiac algorithms and apply them for a specific demographic, in this case, patients suffering from ESRD and CKD And modify our algorithms for that and then deliver the same monitor, right, but now tailored for the nephrology. So The hardware and all of that is already there. So it would be the same BioFlux Biotribe now tailored for nephrologists. They do the cardiac screening inside The dialysis center and then refer a diagnosed patient to the cardiologist. So we actually already have the monitor. Speaker 200:23:12We're not building a new monitor. We're tailoring all of the software to apply for that. And then the idea is to commercialize. And so whereas we're not, we're not just selling to the cardiologist, We're grabbing the nephrologists so that when they come to our cardiologist customer, the cardiologist already knows what's going on with that patient. So And the same kind of perspective that we're looking at, we're always looking at comorbidities, right? Speaker 200:23:37So, CKD patients have high risk for cardiac. That's where we get referrals from. Same thing, feedback on patients, they have high risk for cardiac. We get referrals from pulmonologists. So these are all areas that as we Grow and as we look at, we look at what our complementary spaces where we can either add sensors or tailor our existing technology to capture patients a little bit earlier in the disease progression state. Speaker 400:24:07So just to finish sort of a line of logic here for my little brain, Fill in the kidney disease AI quotient that your team has been working so heavily with AI on? Speaker 200:24:23So what we've been doing is we've been looking at dialysis patients and how they are so arrhythmia detection in cardiac patients And arrhythmia detection in patients with kidney disease is significantly different because kidney patients have like a bank of mineral deficiencies and whatnot. So where our AI has been tailored for a general person without a bunch of other challenges and issues going on, we are We adjusting all of our AI and algorithms to basically look at predictive ability to find out what's going on with that kidney patients. Are they going to actually have A stroke or not stroke, are they progressing? Is their heart actually deteriorating? And then we can identify that, Quantify that piece, highlight that information and then alert the nephrologist. Speaker 200:25:10So same thing that we're doing in the cardiology, but just tailoring the algorithms for an individual that has very, very different biometrics and very, very different data, right. So that means that Our algorithm will still work in the same way and they would work on an nephrology patient. But since they're sicker, we can actually We move a little bit faster and we can augment and improve by focusing and tailoring the algorithms to a specific patient population, right. So it's customizing our algorithms as opposed to using just general cardiology algorithms. Speaker 300:25:50All right. Speaker 400:25:50So last question on this line is how you package that AI With your Biocare platform and market it to nephrologists? Speaker 200:26:09Yes. So I mean, we've already commercialized the same way that we have our cardiologist, right? We have a sales force and now you signed up some distribution relationships and we go And we sell to these clinics and hospitals from a direct sales perspective. So same thing we would do with the nephrology, right. So dialysis centers are out there. Speaker 200:26:29You have a nephrologist that either owns it or they're part of a group. Their specialty groups, it's the same concept, right, direct sales to them. And as those algorithms get finalized and FDA cleared etcetera, All of that just gets built into our ecosystem. So if we know that the nephrologist is the customer and we can basically hit a tab on it, Then the system will dynamically tell that guys to go into kidney mode versus cardiac mode. So it will load up, Of course, have both algorithms running on the device, but it'll load up the different AI interface that is focused on kidney patients, because The cloud is essentially telling it, hey, this is a dialysis patient, not a general cardiac patient. Speaker 400:27:17So you'll need FDA approval for that algorithm to run. You can't run it in the background and I guess use it as an indicator? Speaker 200:27:29So we want to go a step further. So as an indicator, we are okay with it. But what we want to do is we want to predict, So we're moving from so if you look at what we're doing in Kenya, it's not we're not using it as a leading indicator. We're building things that are now into prediction. Like You're going to have a stroke and we're telling you 5 days before it happens. Speaker 200:27:49For that type of sophistication, you need FDA approval. So On AI related items, I mean, we've been swimming in this for years now, right? So FDA has a different positioning depending on what you're trying to do, right? And in a predicting mode, it's looking at it more and for us that's a much better aspect because if we get it clear from that perspective, That's actually a very, very valuable asset because not every nephrologist is close to a cardiology clinic or something like that, right. So It provides much better access and much better support from a commercialization standpoint and also creates another barrier to entry. Speaker 200:28:30So, you know, and in the FDA's perspective, when it comes to AI, they're saying, look, we're happy to, You know, look and approve the AI. We're happy to also say if it's in certain cases, we don't want to look at it because this is not really driving Any clinical decision making. But once you get into clinical decision making, which is what we're trying to do, then you have to have another layer of And another layer of oversight, which is where FDA steps in. Speaker 400:28:58Makes perfect sense. Thanks, Wokwas. A quick question for John. As discussed in prepared remarks, targeting all things being equal, Cash flow positive quarter, month, that's the first question. And then what revenue level Have you sort of penciled out your models on? Speaker 300:29:29We We intend to bring in enough revenue and to because we're ramping our revenue Month over month over month and to improve our expense and cost structure, particularly On the monitoring side and in the selling commissions, to be able to get to breakeven that we've announced by the end of calendar 2024, but I actually believe it's going to happen quite a bit earlier than that. So I Speaker 200:30:04look forward Speaker 300:30:05to actually be beating that estimate. Speaker 400:30:10I see. So but obviously not cash flow positive for the entire year, but some period Of 2024? And then I guess Speaker 300:30:24if you were last year I Speaker 400:30:24personally think Speaker 300:30:25that we're going to get there. I personally think we're going to get there probably towards the end of the 1st fiscal quarter of the next year, But we haven't given that guidance. So I look forward to doing better and better on the cost structure side as well as on the revenue side. We've got quite a few things and projects that we're handling that are under our belt and new technologies that we're rolling out as well as new distribution relationships. So there's a lot to digest and Work through during this period and we don't know how everything is going to exactly perform, but even at conservative levels, I'm quite comfortable that we're going to get there. Speaker 400:31:15Okay. Fair enough. Thank you, John. Appreciate the color. Operator00:31:26Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Gentlemen, we'll turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 200:31:37Thank you. And thank you everybody for attending our 2023 year end conference call. So closing things, I think it's an exciting time for us. And what we've got going forward, we've shown that the strategy of Developing additional products that are complementary not only increases our TAM, but also allows revenue that is complementary and each of these business lines are bigger than our core and Flagship product BioFlux. So that's an exciting place to be, especially with the climate out there. Speaker 200:32:15We are in a market that is growing. We are in a market and have technology that is focused on healthcare, which is a recession resilient market. And I think that from a Business fundamental perspectives, I'll leave this one closing statement for you guys, which I think is very important for investors, which is when we look at How a company is going to achieve cash flow, positive cash flow. We look at is top line revenue growing, top Our expenses in control, expenses are in control. Is margin being sustained? Speaker 200:32:51In our case, margin is actually direct a percentage of our revenues, if you take a state 2 or 3 years from now, we're 99% of our revenue up from Today's 93% of our total gross revenue being technology fees, then effectively our margin becomes what Our technology fee margin is or at least very close to it. That has been solid between 69% 71 For 2 years now. So I think that's an exciting place to be. And I think that's where John, was talking about, we really From a base case perspective, we expect to reach positive cash flow by end of calendar year 2024, but There are a lot of opportunities and a lot of levers that will allow us to get there faster. And I think that's an exciting place to be and I think that's an exciting opportunity for investors And something that we are looking forward to. Speaker 200:33:53And with that, thank you everybody and I hope you guys all enjoy your long weekend and happy July 4th. Operator00:34:02Thank you, sir. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Biotricity's Fiscal 2023 First Quarter and Full Year Financial Results and Business Update Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Deborah Chen, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am. Speaker 100:00:21Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Biotricity's fiscal 2023 4th quarter and full year earnings conference call. As a reminder, Viotricity's 2023 fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, So all figures presented for this period will reflect that end date. Earlier today, Bioelectricity issued its fiscal 2023 Q4 and full year press Release, which highlighted financial and operational results. A copy of a press release is available on the Investor Relations section of Biotricity's website and full financials have been filed with the SEC on Form 10 ks and posted on EDGAR at www.sec.gov. Before beginning the company's formal remarks, I'd like to remind listeners that today's discussion may contain forward looking statements that reflect management's current views With respect to future events, any such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:26Bio Tricity does not undertake to update any forward looking statements set as required. At this point, I'm pleased to turn the call over to BioTricity's Founder and CEO, Doctor. Waqas Al Saddiq. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:41Thank you, Deborah, and thank you everybody for joining us today for our 2023 fiscal year conference call. I'll cover our fiscal year financial and operational highlights and then turn the call over to John for a discussion of our Q4 financials. I will then discuss our sales strategy and outlook and open the call for your questions. We finished the fiscal year on a strong note, driving revenue 26% higher year over year to 9,630,000 while our gross profit rose 19 percent to $5,400,000 While these solidly rising numbers show strong progress, I'm equally as pleased to report our decreasing We produced 26% robust revenue growth while reducing yes, actually reducing our SG and A by 5% to $17,600,000 And that disciplined cost structure management, along with the strong growth across the board, enable us to lower our net loss by over a third or 35.4 percent, down by $10,700,000 to 19,500,000 We managed to accomplish all that while sustaining a healthy gross margin of 57%, which declined just 3% from a year ago, but for important strategic reasons that I will unpack in just a minute. As you can see, we are relentlessly in pursuit of positive cash flow, and our numbers demonstrate that we are making excellent progress It should be readily apparent that we are scaling our business as well. Speaker 200:03:07Now for our revenue and margins. Our revenue sources go into 3 buckets. 1st and foremost, we have technology fees. This is the recurring subscription service fees generated by our Diagnostics and Biosphere Services. For fiscal year 2023, 91% of our total revenue was comprised of technology fees, which rose a hefty 49% year over year at a 70% gross margin, which has been consistent at this level year over year for the past 2 years. Speaker 200:03:37In part, its strong growth reflects our extraordinary customer retention rate of 98%, which in one simple single number speaks volumes about our customer and cardiology friendly solutions, superior device hardware and tech services, ease of use and superior diagnostics. We are continuing to strengthen this retention rate through continuous improvement and expansion of our usage and implementation of AI to strengthen automation and enhance our cardiac disease solutions. As a side note, I recently read that the more times the CEO says AI on an earnings call, the better the share price performs. I'm not so sure about that, but for our newer shareholders, I will point out that we've been actively discussing how Biotricity is deploying AI across our company, from customer service to diagnostics, for well over a year, and we have been actively developing AI for several years now. The most recent occasion was during our Q3 2023 call, which was before WallStreetBlueAI up to become the next big thing. Speaker 200:04:37Back to revenue margins. After technology fees, our second revenue bucket is device sales. As it sounds, That is sales of our proprietary hardware, which like our software is all designed in house. In fiscal 2023, device sales comprised 9% of our total revenue. We also have a 3rd bucket called service related and other revenue, which is entirely opportunistic. Speaker 200:05:01We do not book any revenue in this category in 2023 versus 7 As our technology fees have been so strong and our customer retention so high, we decided to lower the pricing on our devices to near and at times less than our cost. We did this opportunistically and to gain market share, lower the customers' net cost of entry into our biosphere and to incrementally increase our recurring technology fees with its 70% gross margin. Like the old Razer razorblade sales strategy, it seems some principles in business are timeless. Our pricing strategy, along with solid recurring revenue gross margins and high customer retention, is continuing to produce the growth we planned. From a 70% gross margin on technology fees, our pricing strategy diluted our blended gross margin down to 57%. Speaker 200:05:57However, our device sales are earned and recognized upfront. Further, we anticipate the technology fee component of gross margins to continue to grow, outpacing device sales and pulling the blended gross margin higher, all while our growth continues to scale and we capture increasing market share. With that, I will turn the call over to our CFO, John Iyantoglu. Speaker 300:06:19Thank you, Wakash. Since Wakash just covered the fiscal year numbers in his discussion of key operational matters, I will hit the fiscal 2023 Q4 highlights, which are unaudited. Our technology as a service subscription based recurring revenue from our cardiac devices is continuing to ramp up. Revenue for the Q4 ended March 31, 2023 increased 27.6% year over year to 2,740,000 Exceeding the typical young company growth curve, I note that the 4th quarter revenue of fiscal 2022 also grew at practically the same rate 27.4% over the Q4 of 2021. Our blended gross margin in the quarter just ended was 57%, which is lower than the 67% in the year earlier quarter, primarily due to lower pricing on our device hardware, which will cost us to discuss. Speaker 300:07:14Although I also note that even so, it is still a strong improvement from the gross margin in the Q4 of 2021. Technology fee gross margins were steady at 71% and comprised 93% of the quarter's total revenue. As Wacast pointed out, this bodes very well for future margins since SaaS based recurring technology fees will be an ever increasing proportion of our sales mix, notwithstanding the fact that we are also engaging in efforts to contain and improve our costs in our COGS. Gross profit totaled $1,500,000 up 7% from $1,400,000 a year ago. Net loss decreased 19% year over year for $4,900,000 or $0.09 per share from net loss of $6,000,000 or 0.11.8 As we anticipated in our Q3 call, we are now seeing the corresponding inflection in our financial growth trajectory. Speaker 300:08:22I will now turn the call back over to Wakash for his closing comments. Speaker 200:08:26Thank you, John, for that report. I'll cover a few highlights of our fiscal 2023 accomplishments and then provide some forward looking guidance. As a convenience for our customers, we recently launched Android and iOS versions of our Cardiac Monitor smartphone apps in the Google and Apple App Stores. Depending on the cardiac device to which they are tethered, these apps display and interpret the customers' data in an easy to understand graphics as well as providing a gateway into our secure cloud based Biosphere portal. Back to everyone's other favorite subject, AI. Speaker 200:08:59In our 2nd fiscal quarter of last year, we announced we will be conducting an NIH sponsored Phase 1 study of BioFlex AI, our innovative AI system that we will now customize for predictive detection of stroke in patients with chronic kidney disease. Then in February of this year, we were one of the only 8 companies selected to present at the 2nd Annual Innovation Showcase during the American Stroke Association 2023 International Stroke Conference in Dallas in collaboration with the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute and the National Institute For neurological disorders and stroke. We presented our ongoing work on stroke prediction in chronic kidney disease patients, supported by our previously awarded NIH grant. Our ongoing research is on optimizing our AI for predictive stroke analytics in patients with chronic kidney disease. In addition to the honor and high visibility gain from being selected to help lead an advanced AI based clinical study under NIH, This greatly expands Bio Tricity's horizons with the added experience, expertise and contacts within NIH to develop similar future AI programs for other serious My third point here relates to our sales strategy. Speaker 200:10:12We have slowly meticulously built our national sales and sales support One carefully considered industry professional at a time, and that is paying off handsomely. Now we have expanded our network to over 3 50 centers across 31 states with over 2,500 physicians, which is rather remarkable considering that we launched our first product in a competitive industry just 4 years ago. A year ago, we had a plan, but couldn't really discuss upselling our customer base because we had one product commercialized. Now we have 4. When you have 98% customer retention, upselling is a natural and seamless activity as our customers' needs evolve. Speaker 200:10:51For example, A patient may have a cardiac symptom and warn our BioFlux for diagnosis and then been cleared with good heart health by the cardiologist. But with that now heightened awareness, those customers may want a simpler consumer device for basic preventative cardiac wellness monitoring to ensure their heart health is optimal, especially relative to whatever symptoms sent them to the cardiologist in the 1st place. Conversely, the physician of a patient wearing one of our monitors who is newly diagnosed with a potentially serious heart condition will order ongoing remote lifestyle monitoring for that patient, such as moving that patient from our BioFlux device to our Bioheart monitor. Upselling a second BioTrusty product to our installed customer base reduces sales cycles, leaving it to the customer to input their preferred levels of services and reports. A repeat customer takes much less biopsy time and resources than a first time customer. Speaker 200:11:46The fact is our repeat customer upsells are far more bought than they are ever sold. On a final note, I'll provide some color for our outlook. Last quarter, I stated that our gross margin is an important leading indicator of our future profitability. Now as our business is advancing with a longer and stronger track record, I can tell you that even better than gross margins, our technology fee revenue is our best leading indicator of future growth. Separately, as recently as last month, we reported reaching certain annualized revenue run rates. Speaker 200:12:18In May, we announced we had reached $13,000,000 run rate in April. To clarify, that simply means we take a designated full calendar month's revenue and multiply it by 12. With a 98% retention rate, our forward looking revenue is simply the latest month multiplied by 12, not including any additional sales or growth. New sales and growth are additive, making the last month multiplied by 12 the base case outlook. That then produces an annualized revenue run rate that is the same as we use in our internal models as we strive to be more transparent and keep our shareholders informed. Speaker 200:12:54Looking ahead, reaching positive cash flow is a top priority, which we are aiming to achieve by the end of calendar year 2024. I will qualify that by saying, if we see a low risk, High reward opportunity for investment to produce a much greater positive impact on our value than the cost of pushing back our cash flow target, We will evaluate those competing priorities and do what's best for our shareholders in the long run. With John closing the books on our 1st fiscal quarter, I can report our growth steadily accelerating, if a bit unevenly with key metrics all trending favorably. I would now like to open up the call for questions. Operator00:13:30Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to remove your question from the queue. One moment please while we Speaker 200:14:00poll for questions. Operator00:14:12Thank you. Our first question comes from Kevin Dede with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:14:20Hi, Wokaus, John. Thanks for taking my call. Appreciate it. Curious, curious, if you could just peel back the onion a little bit more on The fee contribution revenue given the 4 product lines, It'd be interesting to hear how your customers transition Right, through that upselling process and how that reflects on your service fee income? Speaker 200:15:03Yes, for sure. So, great question, Kevin. In terms of Our product line, so couple of those products are very new, right. So let's focus on the one that we launched in May of last Right, BioTrey. So BioTrey as a product, it has grown and we expect it to be at a $2,000,000 run rate We're seeing 15 months of launch. Speaker 200:15:29We launched in May. So we're probably another 2, 3 months, to maybe I should say 15 months to 16 months, it will be at a $2,000,000 run rate. Now to compare that to BioFlux, it took us 30 months to get to a $2,000,000 run rate on the BioFlux. And that business is already at a $12,000,000 run rate today. So we're it's certainly The strategy of taking a new product and adding it to our ecosystem and selling it into the ecosystem As a vertical strategy to go deeper into the accounts is certainly bearing fruit. Speaker 200:16:05The speed of acquisition in our Statement and that we've been talking about and saying that it's going to be faster, that's also true. And the cost of the sales since it's already an Customer and the onboarding process and everything related to that is pretty minimal. So all of those things, if you take in this trend for this product and you apply that to the other two products that were now We have launched in the early part of this year. We expect a similar thing to happen, but every product has its You know, uptake rate, they have their own, reimbursement and business model. In generally, our business model is always the same as technology. Speaker 200:16:53What I mean is like reimbursement rates are different, right? Our BioFlux reimbursement rates are significantly different than our BioTrey reimbursements rate in terms of what reimbursements are linked to that technology. So adoption rates can be different, but the strategy of selling into the account, the Strategy of that generating an additional revenue line item and going deeper into the accounts and reducing that cost of onboarding Okay. On boarding the customer, that is all holding true. Speaker 400:17:26Okay. Well, Hush, thank you. Can we take a step back then and aside from BioFlex and BioTrace, what are the other products that Encompass your full product line and give us an update on where you're going On kidney disease detection, given you've done a lot of work on the AI side in predicting stroke based on kidney function? Speaker 200:18:00Yes, absolutely. So, answering the first part of your question, so we have BioFlux, which is our Smart Cardiac Monitor, right, that is analyzing ECG data while you are is our passive recording product, which is the more of the Holter And those are our 2 diagnostic solutions and those products are used they're prescribed by the physician and They're rotational. So they go on patient A, they come back, they get cleaned up, they go and they're put on patient B. Then we shift into, Biocare, which is our chronic care management and remote patient monitoring platform. So this is about, okay, you get diagnosed on the BioFlux or the bio tray. Speaker 200:18:45Now you have to be managed. So just as a diabetic is managed, right, for the rest of their life, cardiac disease has no cure. You have to manage that patient. So That is a cardiac disease management platform that also has additional biometrics that you can record like blood pressure cuff, weight information other metrics related to the patient. But ultimately it's about the doctor tracking the patient month over month, making sure the patient is taking their medications, Their data and they're not deteriorating. Speaker 200:19:11And that is a per patient concept, right? So instead of rotating between patients, it's Per patient. So you diagnose the patient and then you go into a biocare ecosystem and now you manage that patient. That is also reimbursable, but It's a lot less from a reimbursement perspective, right? So it's reoccurring versus recurring type of 1 is rotational, 1 is a per month per patient, but it's significantly less. Speaker 200:19:38We're talking the doctors billing $50 to $100 Per patient per month. So, whereas with BioFlux and BioCare you can get to economies of scale and profitability from a clinic perspective very quickly. The Bio Care requires investment and time from the clinic perspective to get economies of skill and to get enough patients on boarded. The last solution that we have is Bioheart, which is a lifestyle consumer product really targeted for stable cardiac patients. So again, BioFlux Bio, Trey, you identify the patient and you say, hey, this patient is stable or unstable. Speaker 200:20:17If they're unstable, you want them into disease management. If they're stable, you still want to see them, but you don't need to see them as regularly. So the doctor can recommend the Bioheart product. And that is a lifestyle Solution that the patient can use on a personal basis and use it to manage themselves efficiently and effectively in between physician visits. So those are the 4 products, right? Speaker 200:20:42So we got the Bioheart, the BioCare ecosystem for chronic disease management, the BioTree for Holter monitoring and For Smart Monitoring. And then the last part of your question Speaker 300:20:54Go ahead. Speaker 200:20:54Sorry, go ahead. Yes, yes, yes. So Speaker 400:20:58as you talk about kidney disease, maybe you can refresh my memory on where Biotricity stands on delivering products to monitor kidney disease. Speaker 200:21:13Yes. So what we're doing on the kidney disease side is, so think of it from our strategic perspective, right? So we came out, you've known us few years, right. We said, hey, we're going into cardiac diagnostics, but we're really want to build a platform company, right. And deal with the cardiac patient Holistically through that entire condition, right? Speaker 200:21:31So now we've completed that journey, right? And then during that process, we also said, hey, What else are we looking at? Well, we're looking at where our cardiologists are getting referrals from, right? So what does that mean? That means Another patient whose primary doctor is not the cardiologist, it's some other specialist, but that patient now has they also have a risk for cardiac issues. Speaker 200:21:54So We get a lot of referrals from nephrologists, which are kidney dialysis patients that also have a heightened risk cardiac issues, right? But they're not getting cardiac screenings because nephrologists don't necessarily have access to, technology or they don't always have a referral, set up a cardiologist, they're just openly setting it up. And these patients, you know, if you're getting dialyzed, you're getting, you're in and out of the clinic 3 times a week. So, the last thing you want to do is then go to other doctor's office. So the idea was and the idea we were focusing on is take Our existing monitoring device, so we take BioFlux and BioTrain. Speaker 200:22:33We improve and Specialize our cardiac algorithms and apply them for a specific demographic, in this case, patients suffering from ESRD and CKD And modify our algorithms for that and then deliver the same monitor, right, but now tailored for the nephrology. So The hardware and all of that is already there. So it would be the same BioFlux Biotribe now tailored for nephrologists. They do the cardiac screening inside The dialysis center and then refer a diagnosed patient to the cardiologist. So we actually already have the monitor. Speaker 200:23:12We're not building a new monitor. We're tailoring all of the software to apply for that. And then the idea is to commercialize. And so whereas we're not, we're not just selling to the cardiologist, We're grabbing the nephrologists so that when they come to our cardiologist customer, the cardiologist already knows what's going on with that patient. So And the same kind of perspective that we're looking at, we're always looking at comorbidities, right? Speaker 200:23:37So, CKD patients have high risk for cardiac. That's where we get referrals from. Same thing, feedback on patients, they have high risk for cardiac. We get referrals from pulmonologists. So these are all areas that as we Grow and as we look at, we look at what our complementary spaces where we can either add sensors or tailor our existing technology to capture patients a little bit earlier in the disease progression state. Speaker 400:24:07So just to finish sort of a line of logic here for my little brain, Fill in the kidney disease AI quotient that your team has been working so heavily with AI on? Speaker 200:24:23So what we've been doing is we've been looking at dialysis patients and how they are so arrhythmia detection in cardiac patients And arrhythmia detection in patients with kidney disease is significantly different because kidney patients have like a bank of mineral deficiencies and whatnot. So where our AI has been tailored for a general person without a bunch of other challenges and issues going on, we are We adjusting all of our AI and algorithms to basically look at predictive ability to find out what's going on with that kidney patients. Are they going to actually have A stroke or not stroke, are they progressing? Is their heart actually deteriorating? And then we can identify that, Quantify that piece, highlight that information and then alert the nephrologist. Speaker 200:25:10So same thing that we're doing in the cardiology, but just tailoring the algorithms for an individual that has very, very different biometrics and very, very different data, right. So that means that Our algorithm will still work in the same way and they would work on an nephrology patient. But since they're sicker, we can actually We move a little bit faster and we can augment and improve by focusing and tailoring the algorithms to a specific patient population, right. So it's customizing our algorithms as opposed to using just general cardiology algorithms. Speaker 300:25:50All right. Speaker 400:25:50So last question on this line is how you package that AI With your Biocare platform and market it to nephrologists? Speaker 200:26:09Yes. So I mean, we've already commercialized the same way that we have our cardiologist, right? We have a sales force and now you signed up some distribution relationships and we go And we sell to these clinics and hospitals from a direct sales perspective. So same thing we would do with the nephrology, right. So dialysis centers are out there. Speaker 200:26:29You have a nephrologist that either owns it or they're part of a group. Their specialty groups, it's the same concept, right, direct sales to them. And as those algorithms get finalized and FDA cleared etcetera, All of that just gets built into our ecosystem. So if we know that the nephrologist is the customer and we can basically hit a tab on it, Then the system will dynamically tell that guys to go into kidney mode versus cardiac mode. So it will load up, Of course, have both algorithms running on the device, but it'll load up the different AI interface that is focused on kidney patients, because The cloud is essentially telling it, hey, this is a dialysis patient, not a general cardiac patient. Speaker 400:27:17So you'll need FDA approval for that algorithm to run. You can't run it in the background and I guess use it as an indicator? Speaker 200:27:29So we want to go a step further. So as an indicator, we are okay with it. But what we want to do is we want to predict, So we're moving from so if you look at what we're doing in Kenya, it's not we're not using it as a leading indicator. We're building things that are now into prediction. Like You're going to have a stroke and we're telling you 5 days before it happens. Speaker 200:27:49For that type of sophistication, you need FDA approval. So On AI related items, I mean, we've been swimming in this for years now, right? So FDA has a different positioning depending on what you're trying to do, right? And in a predicting mode, it's looking at it more and for us that's a much better aspect because if we get it clear from that perspective, That's actually a very, very valuable asset because not every nephrologist is close to a cardiology clinic or something like that, right. So It provides much better access and much better support from a commercialization standpoint and also creates another barrier to entry. Speaker 200:28:30So, you know, and in the FDA's perspective, when it comes to AI, they're saying, look, we're happy to, You know, look and approve the AI. We're happy to also say if it's in certain cases, we don't want to look at it because this is not really driving Any clinical decision making. But once you get into clinical decision making, which is what we're trying to do, then you have to have another layer of And another layer of oversight, which is where FDA steps in. Speaker 400:28:58Makes perfect sense. Thanks, Wokwas. A quick question for John. As discussed in prepared remarks, targeting all things being equal, Cash flow positive quarter, month, that's the first question. And then what revenue level Have you sort of penciled out your models on? Speaker 300:29:29We We intend to bring in enough revenue and to because we're ramping our revenue Month over month over month and to improve our expense and cost structure, particularly On the monitoring side and in the selling commissions, to be able to get to breakeven that we've announced by the end of calendar 2024, but I actually believe it's going to happen quite a bit earlier than that. So I Speaker 200:30:04look forward Speaker 300:30:05to actually be beating that estimate. Speaker 400:30:10I see. So but obviously not cash flow positive for the entire year, but some period Of 2024? And then I guess Speaker 300:30:24if you were last year I Speaker 400:30:24personally think Speaker 300:30:25that we're going to get there. I personally think we're going to get there probably towards the end of the 1st fiscal quarter of the next year, But we haven't given that guidance. So I look forward to doing better and better on the cost structure side as well as on the revenue side. We've got quite a few things and projects that we're handling that are under our belt and new technologies that we're rolling out as well as new distribution relationships. So there's a lot to digest and Work through during this period and we don't know how everything is going to exactly perform, but even at conservative levels, I'm quite comfortable that we're going to get there. Speaker 400:31:15Okay. Fair enough. Thank you, John. Appreciate the color. Operator00:31:26Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Gentlemen, we'll turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 200:31:37Thank you. And thank you everybody for attending our 2023 year end conference call. So closing things, I think it's an exciting time for us. And what we've got going forward, we've shown that the strategy of Developing additional products that are complementary not only increases our TAM, but also allows revenue that is complementary and each of these business lines are bigger than our core and Flagship product BioFlux. So that's an exciting place to be, especially with the climate out there. Speaker 200:32:15We are in a market that is growing. We are in a market and have technology that is focused on healthcare, which is a recession resilient market. And I think that from a Business fundamental perspectives, I'll leave this one closing statement for you guys, which I think is very important for investors, which is when we look at How a company is going to achieve cash flow, positive cash flow. We look at is top line revenue growing, top Our expenses in control, expenses are in control. Is margin being sustained? Speaker 200:32:51In our case, margin is actually direct a percentage of our revenues, if you take a state 2 or 3 years from now, we're 99% of our revenue up from Today's 93% of our total gross revenue being technology fees, then effectively our margin becomes what Our technology fee margin is or at least very close to it. That has been solid between 69% 71 For 2 years now. So I think that's an exciting place to be. And I think that's where John, was talking about, we really From a base case perspective, we expect to reach positive cash flow by end of calendar year 2024, but There are a lot of opportunities and a lot of levers that will allow us to get there faster. And I think that's an exciting place to be and I think that's an exciting opportunity for investors And something that we are looking forward to. Speaker 200:33:53And with that, thank you everybody and I hope you guys all enjoy your long weekend and happy July 4th. Operator00:34:02Thank you, sir. 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