Old Dominion Freight Line Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 26, 2023

There are 17 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Old Dominion Freight Lines Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, today's event is being recorded. And now I'd like to turn the conference over to your host today, Drew Randerson.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Q2 2023 conference call for Old Dominion Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning today and through August 2, 2023 by dialing 1-eight seventy seven-three forty four-seven thousand five hundred and twenty nine, access code 760,9314. The replay of the webcast may also be accessed for 30 days at the company's website. This conference call may contain forward looking statements For this purpose, any statements made during this call that are not statements Without limiting the foregoing, the words believes, anticipates, plans, expects and similar expressions are intended to identify forward looking statements. You are hereby cautioned that these statements may be affected by the important factors, among others, set forth in Old Dominion's filings with the Securities and The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. As a final note, before we begin, we welcome your questions today, But we do ask in fairness to all that you limit yourself to just one question at a time before returning to the queue.

Speaker 1

Thank you for your cooperation. At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to turn the conference over to the company's President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Marty Freeman. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and welcome to our Q2 conference call. With me on the call today is Adam Satterfield, our CFO. And after some brief remarks, we will be glad to take your questions. The OD team delivered solid financial results for the Q2, considering the operating challenges associated With a 15.2% decrease in revenue during the quarter, our team was focused on improving our yield, managing our variable cost and controlling our discretionary spending. As a result, we were pleased to produce a 72.3 percent operating ratio and earnings per diluted share of $2.65 we achieved these results by continuing to execute our long term strategic plan, which was guided us for many years throughout many economic The plan is centered on our ability to deliver superior service at a fair price, which included on time service performance of 99% and a call or go claims ratio of 0.1% Providing this level of superior service strengthens both our our value proposition and our relationships with our customers.

Speaker 2

Delivering superior service also supports our ongoing yield management initiatives. We have improved the quality of our revenue over long term by offering a consistent approach to pricing, which is designed to offset our cost inflation and support our ongoing investments in service center capacity and technology. We believe that our ability to consistently offer network capacity differentiates us from the others in our industry, Our market share remain relatively consistent during the Q2 despite an environment where overall freight demand will subdue. The year over year decrease in our volumes, however, resulted in a loss of operating density. We believe that our long term improvement in our operating ratio with our commitment to providing superior service as our first priority for our customers, it becomes a challenge to maintain, much less improve our productivity As evidence of this fact, our line haul load factor decreased 3.1% during the Q2.

Speaker 2

We were pleased, however, that our platform shipments per hour increased 6.6% and P and D shipments per hour increased 0.5%. These improvements as well as other efforts by our team to manage cost helped us maintain our direct operating cost as a percent of revenue. Our overhead cost, on the other hand, increased as a percent of revenue during the quarter as most of these cost categories are fixed. We also believe an increase in aggregate depreciation expense due to the ongoing execution of our capital expenditure plan. We believe it is critically important to continue to execute on this plan regardless of the short term economic outlook.

Speaker 2

We currently have approximately 30% excess capacity within our service center network, which is a little higher than our target range of 25%. We are comfortable with the amount of excess capacity as we remain confident in our ability to win market share over the long term. Finding land and building service centers in the right locations can take considerable time. Therefore, we make every effort to stay ahead of our growth curve with these investments. We could not have doubled our market share over the past 10 years without our consistent investment in service center capacity as well as our regular investments in our fleet, our technology and training, education and benefits for our OOD family of employees.

Speaker 2

Our proactive approach to managing all elements of has created a strategic advantage for us in the marketplace, which typically becomes most apparent to shippers in tight capacity environments. We do not always know when an inflection point in the demand environment is going to occur, but we believe we are well positioned to respond to any acceleration in volumes when it Through the disciplined execution of our long term strategic plan, our team has created one of the strongest records for long term growth And we believe we are better positioned than any other carrier to produce Thank you for joining us this morning. And now Adam will discuss our 2nd

Speaker 3

Thank you, Marty, and good morning. Old Dominion's revenue results The 2nd quarter reflects the 14.1% decrease in LTL tons per day and 1.1% decrease in LTL revenue per hundredweight. Our yield metrics were affected by the significant decrease in the price of diesel fuel during the quarter as LTO revenue 108, excluding fuel surcharges, increased 7.6%, reflecting our consistent approach to managing yield. On a sequential basis, revenue per day for the 2nd quarter decreased 2.0% when compared to the Q1 2023, With LTL tons per day decreasing 1.8% and LTL shipments per day decreasing 0.3%. For comparison, the 10 year average sequential change for these metrics includes an increase of 9.8% in revenue per day, An increase of 6.8% in tons per day and an increase of 7.2% in shipments per day.

Speaker 3

Our shipments per day on average have been relatively consistent since December of last year. We had previously communicated our Our volumes to remain consistent through the Q2 despite the sequential growth that we have historically achieved in this period. Our baseline thinking was for volumes to remain consistent through the Q3 as well, although we have noticed an incremental increase in revenue over the past few work The change in our revenue on a week by week basis so far in July has been relatively consistent with historical averages. As a result, it appears that sequential change in both revenue and shipments per day for July will be the first time this to continue to be in a listen only mode. While there are still a few workdays remaining in July, Our revenue per day has decreased by approximately 15% to 16% when compared to July 2022, Although the timing of the July 4th holiday has skewed this number slightly.

Speaker 3

If the trend that we've seen over the past few workdays We expect revenue per day to finish down approximately 14% to 14.5% and LTL tons per day to finish down approximately 11.5% to 12%. Our impacted by the significant decrease in the price of diesel fuel. LTL revenue per 100weight excluding fuel surcharges Has increased approximately 6.5% to 7%. As usual, we will provide the actual revenue related details for July in Our 2nd quarter operating ratio increased to 72.3% As our overhead costs increased as a percent of revenue due primarily to the deleveraging effect associated with the decrease in revenue, We were able to effectively manage our direct operating costs during the quarter as these costs remain consistent as a percent of revenue with the 2nd Within our direct operating costs, our operating supplies and expenses improved 250 basis points, Due primarily to the significant decrease in the price of diesel fuel and our purchased transportation cost improved 60 basis points. These changes more than offset the increase in salaries, wages and benefits as a percent of revenue for our drivers, While capital expenditures were $244,700,000 $479,400,000 We utilized $160,500,000 $302,200,000 Our cash dividends totaled $43,800,000 $87,800,000 for the same periods.

Speaker 3

We announced this morning that our Board has approved a new share repurchase program that provides us with the authorization to repurchase up to $3,000,000,000 of our outstanding stock. This program will begin after the completion of our existing $2,000,000,000 repurchase program that was announced in July of 20 While we intend to continue our focus of returning excess capital to our shareholders, Our effective tax rate was 25.4 percent 26.0 percent for the Q2 of 2023 and 2022, respectively. We currently expect our annual effective tax rate to be 25.6% for the Q3 of 2023. This concludes our prepared remarks this morning. Operator, we're happy to open the floor for questions at this time.

Operator

Yes. Thank you. And the first question comes from Jordan Allinger with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. Sorry for that. Obviously, there's a lot of noise in the background now with one of the major competitors out there. Can you maybe touch a little bit on what, if anything, you're seeing or expecting either from a diversion I guess, from a diversion perspective now? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. We don't want to make any comments specifically on one carrier or another. But Like I mentioned, we have seen an uptick in business over the past few days in particular. But really, I think that over the past few weeks, we have started to start seeing a little bit better trend, if you will, and it goes back to maybe beyond that. I think we're at the end of a long slow cycle and We've stayed in front of our customers over the last year, year and a half, as things have been slower.

Speaker 3

I guess really going back April of last year and typically when we get to the end of this kind of cycle, we start hearing comments about service issues with other carriers and the need for shippers to start reusing Old Dominion within their supply chain. And so We've started increasingly having those types of conversations and certainly, some of that has intensified here over the last few weeks. But Yes. When we look at things, we look at our success measured over the period of years. Over the long term is the way that we continue to try to manage our business.

Speaker 3

And We've doubled our market share over the last 10 years. And I think when we think about the next 10 years of opportunity, we've got a long runway for growth and we want to keep winning market share in the right way for us. So we'll continue to stay in front of customers for sure and talk about the Old Dominion value proposition and how we can deliver value to their supply chain. It has driven a little incremental increase. We had been running at about 47,000 shipments a day.

Speaker 3

We talked a lot about that on last Earnings call last quarter, we typically see a little bit of an increase anyways from the beginning of the month to the end of the month. But we've been, the last few days, running closer to 50,000 shipments a day. It's hard to say one factor versus another what's driving that higher, but it has been a little bit higher than what I had initially forecast probably a month So maybe it's picked up at this point, 1,000, 1500, 2,000 Shipments per day more so than what we had initially been forecasting for. But I would expect that we feel like we're getting towards the end of the slow cycle and would expect to start seeing business levels start to return to us at the end of the year and certainly, as we get into the early part of 2024, It feels like underlying demand takes supply in the industry out of the equation, but it feels like demand is starting to improve a little bit, and we're having good conversations with customers, just like we've been having all year long. But yes, certainly feels like things are starting to turn a little bit.

Speaker 4

If I could just ask a follow-up, I think you had mentioned you have about 30% excess capacity in your network now, whether it be demand or competitive problems, I think you also said normally you like about 25%, but would

Speaker 2

you push

Speaker 4

that excess capacity lower? I mean, would you be at would you run with just 20% or 15% excess capacity? Or is it a relatively firm line? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes, certainly. That 25% is just a target. And we go through periods where When you look at the system on average, it's been below that. 2021 is a good example, where we had significant Sequential growth that year due to the strength of the economy. And we look and you look back at our trends, we We're 1 or 2 carriers that had a double digit sequential increase, at least public carriers, from the 1st to the Q2 of 2021.

Speaker 3

Then we were the only carrier that followed that up with another increase, sequential increase from the second to the third quarter. So we've proven In the past that if you got the right strategies that we can take on business and pretty significant increases in business because of The way that we try to plan for the long term and build capacity into the system. And certainly, you've always got to be thinking, In our case, we try to think several years ahead and stay ahead of our growth curve. But that service center capacity is one element of the overall capacity equation. There's still the people component of it and the equipment piece as well, But we try to stay further ahead of the curve with service centers.

Speaker 3

In certain markets, we try to stay even further If you will, but that's always a number that flexes up and down and each service center is different. We've got some service centers that we've got more capacity than others. And but that's generally about where we try to stay just from an overall system average.

Speaker 4

Thank

Operator

you. Thank you. And the next question comes from Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. James Monaghan on for Allison. Just wanted to ask about sort of how we should think about OR in the 3rd quarter, like you're getting some volume, better pricing trends presumably as well. How should we think about sort of the potential improvement and should we essentially see sort of something maybe even above seasonality given the late in operating leverage?

Speaker 3

Well, I think the top line is going to be the determining factor here. And when it comes to the top line, obviously, we've shared a little bit about where we are with July, and we'll continue to give Our mid quarter update, so August will be out there as well. But from a baseline standpoint, what I initially was thinking and I may try to address this in a slightly different manner than what we have in the past. Typically, we see about a 50 basis point Increase in the operating ratio from the second to the third quarter. And I would expect this Q3, we are going to have some increase in some of our over from an aggregate dollar standpoint and some of the overhead categories.

Speaker 3

I feel like our total overhead Expenses are going to dollars wise are going to be higher than where we were. Some of that will be depreciation. We Our missed lease expenses to be a bit higher and our general supplies and expenses as well. So it will depend on where That top line comes in. I think that we can manage, continue to manage our direct operating costs, which are more variable in nature, consistent as a percent of revenue.

Speaker 3

And so we would book to try to keep those costs consistent with where we were last year, and that would be a slight improvement, but fairly constant with where we were in the second quarter. And then it just becomes the leverage that we get on the overhead. So if we've got some dollars higher, if the top line if the volume environment were to stay flatter like what our base case scenario previously was, then obviously we would lose a little bit more leverage there. But if we get some incremental improvement and further growth from where we are now, I think that's going to be really the slide, if you will, in terms of where the VOR might end up. That baseline thinking though, because of the increase in overhead expenses, I was thinking that we'd be slightly worse Ben, the normal seasonality is somewhere between 50 to 100 basis points of an increase over what we just did in the second quarter.

Speaker 3

So a lot is just going to depend on how those overhead costs as a percent of revenue move around really depending on what the top line is doing.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

And the next question comes from Jack Atkins with Stephens.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Thanks and good morning. I guess I'd like to ask a question on the pricing environment. And I guess more specifically, if you go back 3 months ago, there was a or so the last few months or in recent weeks that would give you some more confidence about the trajectory of pricing in the marketplace. Is there any sort of comment

Speaker 2

Yes, there has been no major changes in the pricing environment. I mean, we're still getting Increases from our contract carriers and there's not anything really crazy going on out there, so which Q1 and we're still getting increases when we need them.

Speaker 7

But I guess just a quick follow-up on that, Marty, if I could. I mean, are you seeing maybe, just given all the shifting dynamics in the marketplace, maybe a little bit less of a competitive situation going on with the transactional part of the market, are you seeing some firming in pricing there, I guess, was what I was trying to get at?

Speaker 2

Yes. I haven't really seen any changes at all, what I mean, if we need it, as you know, as I've said before on the last call, we're a cost plus costing model. That's what we base our pricing on. And when we go in to discuss pricing, we basically show our customer what our cost is and they understand why we need to increase. We're not having any issues getting it.

Speaker 2

But no, I'm not seeing any crazy pricing adjustments out there since the Q1.

Speaker 7

Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jonathan Chappell with Evercore ISI.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Good morning. Sticking with that transactional theme, Adam, last quarter you kind of flagged the 3PL business losses as being a bit more outsized. Has that basically run its course where there's not much more 3PL business to lose. And as you talked about this kind of recent uptick in the last few workdays, has that been more kind of transactional volume as well, maybe getting some of that 3PL back?

Speaker 8

Or are you actually seeing core LTL freight pick up substantially over the last week or so?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's more of the core. And I would say looking through our top 50 customers, the 3PL piece of the business really just in a core contract business, those that have direct contracts with us, but with revenue down 15%, everyone was pretty much down. A lot of that, obviously, there's a big decrease in fuel surcharge revenue that had an impact on the 2nd quarter with the average price of fuel being down close to 30%. So that was certainly a headwind that we had to contend with. But that's we go back to we've had consistent conversations with customers really over the last year.

Speaker 3

And I think we've been pleased with the trends that we've seen. Certainly, we'd rather be Talking about growth and see pure growth going on. So it's been tough to kind of go through the last year or so. But I think that we've had good customer relationships. We've got long term customer relationships, People that have gone through supply chain challenges realize the value of Old Dominion and are continuing to increase the business with us.

Speaker 3

And The demand environment overall with the state of the domestic economy and that has certainly had an impact on our customers' businesses as well. And so Many accounts that we've kept the contract have been awarded the same types of lanes, customers may just not have the same amount of business And that's kind of what I was alluding to earlier where I feel like we're getting to the end of that kind of process where it feels like Yes, we're seeing stabilization. And if I go back to just underlying demand for LTL transportation, I felt like things were kind of getting to the point where we would see stabilization. We've had stable trends all year, but I felt like we were getting back to the point where we might start to see Our market share has been relatively consistent this year. It's been down slightly, but I felt like we were kind of getting that end where things are going to start turning back in our favor.

Speaker 3

And some of that just goes to some of the conversations we've had about others in the industry. Yes, we're hearing more service failures and that's generally when the business starts coming back to us. So I feel good about kind of those underlying trends and getting through the back half of this year and being ready for 2024.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you, Adam.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Chris Willoughby with Citigroup.

Speaker 9

Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys. Maybe wanted to come back to pricing for a minute, maybe kind of big picture. If we think about the potential for capacity event in the for the carriers in the space. I guess, conceptually, how do you think about that if we were to see some degree of capacity event, given the strength in pricing over this last cycle, is there still material upside as you think about that?

Speaker 9

I know volume ultimately will come back, but wanted to get a sense of what you think about the potential

Speaker 3

It's all about having a consistent process and we talk about that a lot. We're trying to have, as Marty mentioned earlier, we have a cost Based process and we talk about our cost inflation with customers and the need to have a price increase that It's 100 to 150 basis points above our cost inflation every year to support the significant investments that we're making in service in our capacity and technologies. And so I think that's generally understood and kind of makes sense if you sit across the table And have that conversation. Obviously, a lot goes into that for us managing our cost and trying to keep cost inflation in check. And I was pleased that we're starting to see some of the cost per shipment numbers, they're moderating.

Speaker 3

If you take fuel out of the equation, just our core price Inflation is just starting to trend back to closer to what our expectations were for this year. So I feel like our team has done a phenomenal job with managing our costs and keeping that inflation in check as best we can in a low volume environment, to produce a 72.3% in the second quarter with a 14% decrease in tonnage is Pretty remarkable in my opinion. But I think that we just got to stay consistent with our approach. And I think other carriers, they start making similar to what was going on in 2021. If other carriers are closing the pricing gap and are trying to use the environment to take even bigger increases, then I think that bodes well for our market share opportunities.

Speaker 3

We're typically a little bit more expensive Then the other carriers on average. And so we'd be pleased to see that gap close, and that would certainly help support our own pricing initiatives as well. But the key for us is to focus on us and what we're doing, having that those conversations with customers demonstrating the value that we can add relative to the industry and just looking at what our needs would be to keep driving the cash from operations and the strength of our balance sheet even stronger to support further investments to keep growing the company.

Speaker 9

Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Amit Mehrotra with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 10

Hey, thanks. Hi, everyone. Adam, on the 47,000 to 50,000 uplifted shipments, are there any mix changes there? Because if it is coming from some diversion, obviously, yellow has significantly lower weight per shipment and I don't know if there's any mix observations that may bifurcate shipments from tonnage? And then if we take this kind of new elevated tonnage number for the last couple of days here and We assume kind of it holds.

Speaker 10

What does August look like from a year over year perspective? And then the last question, 3 parter, but one question. Yellow is very different than OD. And obviously, yellow, there's I know you don't want to address yellow specifically, but they're the 3rd largest LTL company and they seem to be on the brink of going out of business. And so the question is, if yellow customers are looking to divert, do you think OD is the natural relief out there because you are kind of the most expensive best service company out there?

Speaker 10

I'm just trying to understand, are you the right barometer for that? Or maybe you see some of it, but a lot of it goes elsewhere?

Speaker 3

Yes. Let's see if I can try to address those in some sense of order. But to answer your first question from a mix standpoint, not a lot has changed with mix. Our weight per shipments dropped a little bit. We've gotten down to about we've dropped about £10.

Speaker 3

We've gotten down to about 15.25 pound average or so and it's dropped about £10 or so here recently. But Not a lot is changing. I think some of that is we are seeing it seems to be picking up some more of the smaller tariff based customers They generally got a little bit lower weight per shipment. So that's been good to see, if you will, overall. And Whether or not that continues remains to be seen.

Speaker 3

And obviously, this is all just kind of developing. But Yes, don't want to get into if we hold this trend steady, hold that trend steady, I mean, generally, August sequentially is up about 0.5% for our Our shipments per day are up about 0.5% over July. We'd expect that some of these recent trends, it's possible that if things continue to hold steady like they have, I talked about the impact of July for that, but obviously, that could carry forward a little bit stronger. But we'll just take it one step at a time and keep giving the updates out there as they are. But We were last year in August, we were at about an average of 51,000 shipments per day.

Speaker 3

It starts closing the gap, if you will, if we can hold 50,000 steady. But keep in mind, And that's what I was alluding to earlier that there's a natural progression that happens from the beginning of the month to the end of the month. And we were already starting to see some trends. So I don't know that you can't just take that gap from where we've been averaging 7,000 shipments a day, really since December of last year and just say, okay, there's this immediate incremental change. There's been change that's been developing and you can't just point to one specific player to say, this is the reason why.

Speaker 3

It's been a developing trend and it's the way history has played out for us. When we get to the end of the cycle, we start winning business from different carriers. And so with that said, I think that there may be direct freight opportunities, but indirect freight opportunities as well that may come out of if there is an industry event. And I think that's still an if and we don't know any more than anybody else. But we just are staying engaged with our customers, making sure that they understand the capacity that we have.

Speaker 3

And I think everyone knows the service that we can offer. And no different than, I think, 2021 is an example where freight was obviously coming to us very quickly that year And we stepped up in a very big way through the second and third quarters. And a lot of the conversations that we had with shippers then will be similar conversations that we have now. We protect our existing customers, capacity for them and that's how we would manage through if we get into another period where the freight opportunity is accelerating significantly.

Speaker 11

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Tom Wadewitz with UBS.

Speaker 6

Yes, good morning. I wanted to go back to your comment on the capacity in the network. You referred to the 30% being above what your target is. I guess if you kind of juxtapose that with there may be opportunity for terminals related to the discussion we've been having about the big industry participants, it's under pressure. So I'm wondering, would you consider being opportunistic and say, hey, we've got maybe more capacity than we need in the network, but there is an opportunity to kind of bring in a bunch of additional terminals that maybe fit well, or just how do you think about that and the kind of pace of terminal additions if you look at, I don't know, next 2 years, something like that?

Speaker 3

Yes. Tom, we're always looking for opportunities. And That's why we try to stay so far ahead of the growth curve. We generally are looking at each service center in each region and projecting out 5 years of potential growth to know where we're going to have facilities that start hitting capacity. And those are the ones that go on our target list for kind of we roll out internally a 2 year capital expenditure plan to expand service center capacity and where we need it.

Speaker 3

So sometimes an opportunity presents itself that maybe we don't need this particular location, but in year 4, for example, but if it's a good facility, then we would go ahead and take advantage of it. And again, it gets back to, we've got our long term market share initiatives and what we think we can achieve over a longer period of time. And so we know we're going to keep growing this network. We've one of few carriers that have been expanding, many talk about it, but when you look over the last 10 years When you look at the capacity additions that we've made, the public carriers in total are actually down in terms of the number of service centers in the industry. So we're going to continue to say that's a big part of our value proposition is we're consistently investing dollars to be able to support our customers' and make sure that we can be there when our customers need us the most and when they've got growth potential, But they need an LTL carrier to be able to respond and not just be able to respond in the middle of the month when things aren't as busy, but at the end of the month when they're trying to get freight moved off the dock and delivered to their customers, that's when they know they can rely on OD.

Speaker 3

So we'll certainly continue to look for opportunities and we would be opportunistic in adding facilities if it makes sense within the long term vision for our network.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America.

Speaker 12

Hey, great. Good morning, Marty, Adam. I guess if we look back on the scale of an industry shift like this, right, where I guess consolidated freight weighs back in 'two or doing the motor freight right where you've had big and quick historical rapid change. Maybe talk a little bit about you talk about customer discussions accelerating, are these kind of existing customers? Adam, I think you threw out there the top 50 customers, their business was down also, but are you seeing that mainly from internal or are you having new discussions?

Speaker 12

I presume not that many just given I guess any user of yellow was maybe looking for lower cost facilities, what's your thoughts on headcount and capacity there as well? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. We currently talk to new customers every week, we have over 500 salespeople and part of their job is to bring on new business. They're out there having discussions about onboarding new customers every week, but and as well as existing customers. And if the customers or have questions about capacity, of course, we answer those. We show them where we have capacity, our terminal network and so forth.

Speaker 2

So Those are just ongoing discussions. But as far as labor, we have the labor covered. We have a driver training school where we have, we call them combo drivers. If we're not utilizing them during slow periods, they go on the dock, and then we can bring them back on to a truck as our tonnage and shipments increase. So we feel like we are pretty covered on labor and for any increases that might come our way, so I feel confident we can take on whatever comes our way.

Speaker 12

And then just I guess to clarify Marty, if you mind just a follow-up here. I know you said Adam or Adam said it was a slow kind of grind here, but I just want to understand it in the last 48 hours, has this not been a massive shift? I guess I understand they stopped picking

Speaker 4

up freight last night.

Speaker 12

I just want to understand the speed and scale with which we're talking about here?

Speaker 2

Yes. We're reading the same things you are. So we really don't know what's and on, but we're talking about it within our senior management team every day and how we're going to put forth our plan to handle additional business. But we're not really seeing any major business coming out of that. And just like you, we don't know how that's going to end up.

Speaker 2

So we don't want to speculate at this time.

Speaker 12

Wonderful. Appreciate the thoughts, Marty. Thank you. Thank

Operator

you. And the next question comes from Bruce Chan with Stifel.

Speaker 12

Hey, thanks and good morning everyone. Adam and Marty, I'm not sure if this got captured in some of the previous answers, but I wanted to ask it maybe a little bit more directly. If you think about the potential share wins from this, I guess, impending competitor exit, would you expect to see outsized share gains given your capacity expansion or maybe slower share gains given, at a more disciplined yield approach and what you mentioned was a higher average price than the market?

Speaker 2

As you know, we're very disciplined on price and we're not going to do anything to trash our service by taking on too much freight. We expect if something were to happen that we would remain disciplined in that manner. And like Adam said, we'd look after our existing customers and we cost out every piece of business that comes through this truck line and if it doesn't have the yield that we expect, we just won't take it on. But, and we also expect if there is if there is a major event happens that we will gain business probably from other carriers that weren't participating in that event because they may take on too much revenue and trash their service and we'll benefit from that as well. We've experienced that before and ready for it again.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. That's helpful. I'll hop back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Eric Morgan with Barclays.

Speaker 13

Hey, thanks for taking my question. So I just had a follow-up on the headcount comment. Marty, you mentioned you're confident from a labor's perspective that you can handle of this incremental freight, are you saying that you think you can handle the surge with limited headcount increases from here? Or are are you just more confident that you'll be able to ramp up your labor force accordingly if you do see volume tick up? And then I was also just curious on on cost per employee, any thoughts there?

Speaker 13

I know it's been kind of trending roughly flattish, up a little, down a little over the last few quarters. Curious how this could affect that metric?

Speaker 3

Yes. This is Adam. But we've had a Decrease in headcount or we did sequentially through the Q2, and we've seen attrition really going back into last year through our business. But I think that, like I mentioned, there's 3 elements of capacity and We certainly we've got plenty. We talk mostly about our service center piece, but we've got equipment capacity on to the acceleration in business levels and from a people standpoint, we can do the same.

Speaker 3

We've shown that type of flex in our workforce in the past, and we've got people that I think we can call back as well. Marty mentioned our internal truck driving school. That's created about a third of our drivers, and sometimes drivers come out of that school, but continue to work on the platform until demand is such that we put them into a full time driving job. So there's multiple opportunities, the other lever that we could pull. And we did this going back Looking at those 2021 sequential trends, but as business accelerated really through the second half of twenty twenty, continuing through 2021 as needed, we don't like to do this, but we can use purchase transportation to supplement the capacity of our workforce or our fleet.

Speaker 3

And so it just kind of depends on the pace at which volume comes on, but we had those big quarter after quarter sequential increases during those periods back in the end and that was kind of the final lever to pull. And so we certainly can have that. We would rather move our line haul 100% with our fleet and with our people. But as necessary, we sometimes have to supplement and that's kind of the source that we could go to, on a very short term basis. It would always be with the idea that we get it back 100% in source as soon as possible if we had to go that route.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Next question comes from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Hey, thanks.

Speaker 11

Good morning. Adam, you mentioned a couple of times just Maybe if it's possible, can you just like just share like year over year tonnage the last Couple of days like what that's trending. I just we just want to get a sense of like run rate very recently. And then the I think yield is down 3% or so in July. Any sense what yield ex fuel is doing in July?

Speaker 11

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. And that we had already talked about in the prepared comments, but it's somewhere 6.5% 7%, the revenue per hundredweight excluding the fuel surcharge. Obviously, right now, we're getting continuing to see Fuel was down. I think July should be the worst. At this point, We continue to average where we are.

Speaker 3

Fuel will be down about 30% again. But in the Q3 of last year was when fuel prices started declining And then that continued on. So that will be less of a headwind, as we go through the second half of this year. But we're continuing to get core increases, As Marty mentioned earlier, the key will be to continue to look at whether it's us or others, is there a sequential increase there? That's what we strive.

Speaker 3

Every day we've got contracts that are turning over. And if we're going through those contracts and able to negotiate increases, If mix is relatively constant, you should see sequential increases in those yield metrics. But Like I mentioned, the last few days, we've been right at around 50,000 shipments Some of that is just the natural growth that happens towards the end of the month and whether it accelerates from there It kind of remains to be seen. I held that 50,000. The numbers that I gave this morning assume that we kind of held that 50,000 Constance for the remaining workdays today through Friday and then Monday of next week.

Speaker 3

So if there's numbers that when we put where things came in. July of last year was a little over between 51,000 52,000 shipments per day, and I mentioned August was 50,000 to 51,000. So we're back to where our shipments Per day, if this kind of 50 were to hold constant, and I'm not saying that it does, to where we're closer from a volume standpoint to where we were last year. And then just sort of getting back to the keep trying to bring us back to the big picture, I think that it's Success ain't going to be defined by what we can do next week and next month or next quarter. It's what's the market share potential over the long term and we still feel confident about what our long term market Sure potential can be because we still win business by the quality of our service.

Speaker 3

Our value proposition is delivering superior service at a fair price and always maintaining network capacity to support our customers' growth. And I think we continue to win share because of the service and capacity advantages that we have in the marketplace and that will extend beyond what may be happening over the next few weeks.

Speaker 11

So Adam, your point there is that others may get maybe a little bit more of the volume day 1. But To the extent that they struggle with this big surge in volume, you'll then get it on a derivative basis, maybe it's not day 1, but it's weeks or months from now. Is that kind of what you're trying to say?

Speaker 3

Exactly. Slow and steady generally wins the race. And we want to be patient with the things and certainly we're looking and having conversations with customers and want to help where we can. But just like in 2021, you got to be careful about opportunity. You don't want to take on so much so fast that you end up not being able to deliver on the service value that we offer with 99% on time and Claims ratio of 0.1%.

Speaker 3

So we want to be methodical about the way we go through this and make sure that we're protecting servicing capacity for our existing shippers without taking on too much of what opportunity may be out there. And so I think when you go back and you look at prior trends, like I said, we stepped up in the quarter more so than anyone else. When you look at 2021, when you look at that sequential acceleration, and then we continue to follow on from there where others didn't. So it's always just making sure that you don't overextend yourself in

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 14

Thanks for calling everyone. Sorry to stay on this topic, but I just wanted to kind of basically clean up the commentary on this call, which is the uptick in volumes that you see in the last few days, how much of that is because of a cyclical improvement versus flow through from what's going on at your competitor? Like, is it 1 of the 2 of them? Is it both? And kind of can you tell the 2 of those apart?

Speaker 3

It's really hard to try to bifurcate and put your finger on what's driving any type of acceleration As I've mentioned, we would expect to see an increase. We're going into the final full week of the month. We would expect to see a normal type of increase. And it's a little bit above where I'd originally forecast And so is that just because we've got more business from an existing customer that's having their own end of month surge? Yes, that's part of it.

Speaker 3

Is it freight that's coming in where there's been some freight diversion? Yes, that's a part of it. So you just can't put your finger on everything when we're doing 50,000 shipments a day, why did we get this one particular shipment? That's why I wanted to point out that really I think this goes back to for several weeks. I feel like we've seen some pretty nice trends.

Speaker 3

We Closed out the month of June strong. I feel like when we go back, even though our number of shipments per day have been around 47,000, we've had Good end of month performance and the trends that intra month trends have been pretty The last couple of months as well. We dropped off some early in the month, which that's typical too, but maybe dropping off a little bit more so than what a week by week average would be, but then we've made up for it as we've progressed through the month. So I've been pleased with our performance so far in July. And it looks like at least right now when we project out and carry that trend forward of shipments per day that we're still down in comparison to June, some of that is July is a 20 workday month and the way the July 4 holiday fell that Monday that we were open was probably half of a normal work day.

Speaker 3

So if you kind of adjust for that, We have seen better trends. We have been more in the 48,000 or so shipments per day range kind of through the month So it's just not you can't put your finger on what completely is driving the change other than you go back and this is somewhat typical to what we would see at the end of a slow period like we've been in since April of last year and then it's just been accelerated over the last few workdays from there.

Speaker 14

Very helpful. Super quick follow-up. Did you take any short term cost savings actions in this quarter that may potentially unwind if tonnage really comes back?

Speaker 3

We keep our belts tight every day. We're always looking at managing our variable cost and controlling discretionary spending where we and where it makes sense, but that's a philosophy that you can't just sort of take it or leave it. It's a mind If you don't have that mindset in the good times, you're not going to be able to switch gears when you really need to. I think that we certainly have been able to trim out some cost and I was pleased we ended up with a better operating ratio in the Q2 than what we had initially talked about, so that was good to see. And I think that I mentioned earlier, we're have some of those overhead cost categories.

Speaker 3

Overhead costs are about 19.5% to 20% of our revenue in total when you split those out and our direct costs are 52.5% to 53% of revenue, we're going to have some cost increases. We're continuing to have depreciation dollars that will increase from the second to the third quarter. Our general supplies and expenses should be up in the Q3 over the second. And then I would expect that our missed lanes expenses would be up as well. Those dollar costs will be there.

Speaker 3

Whether or not we've got some revenue growth offsetting them kind of remains to be seen, similar to what we were talking about before. So but some of those dollars will be increasing from the second to the third.

Speaker 14

Wonderful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jason Seidl with TD Cowen.

Speaker 9

Thanks, operator. Hey, Marty. Hey, Adam. Good morning, gentlemen. Wanted to focus again on what's going on with Yellow and look out at pricing.

Speaker 9

I don't think I heard this, but generally, I wouldn't have expected anybody to try to push the GRI through excluding what's been happening, but do you think there's a likelihood that this occurs now if there is a bankruptcy in the near future?

Speaker 2

As I said before, I don't want to speculate what's going to happen with YRC, but I will say that we took our GRI in January and we don't foresee having to take another one this year as it relates to transactional business. I mean, we're going to manage the same way we would with them or without them. So I can't speak for the other carriers, but I would say maybe some of them do need to firm up their prices a bit and maybe they'll use that as an opportunity, who knows. But We've got a good handle on our cost and we had that before YRC and we'll have it after. So I don't see us considering the GRI on transactional business.

Speaker 9

Okay, Marta, that makes sense. So you're not expecting it, but you wouldn't be surprised if maybe others try because they're not exactly at your level. Wanted to, Adam, jump on something you mentioned with sort of slow and steady wins of the race and freight coming back with people not being able to handle it. But even if people handle it, won't there be cases of freight not being what people think and it just needing to find proper homes within the given network?

Speaker 3

Typically, that plays out exactly as you described, where it may find a temporary home, but then ultimately, in some cases, people have just got to get their freight moved And they may go to the next closest carrier from a price standpoint and just to keep their supply chain moving. But ultimately, if they want value in their supply chain, that freight will find its own with Old Dominion.

Speaker 9

Fair enough. Gentlemen, appreciate the time as always.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies.

Speaker 15

Hi, good morning. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 15

I was wondering if you could maybe touch on the performance you've seen if there's been any differentiating trends between maybe your more retail consumer customers and then those that are more maybe industrial focused. And then same thing, if you're hearing from your customers, kind of their expectations as they go into the back half of this year, thoughts on inventory levels, where they stand today, any kind of bigger picture color would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. We saw generally consistent performance In the Q2 with the industrial and our retail related customers, industrial is 55% to 60 Our business overall, historically, we look at ISM and industrial production, which ISM has been below 50 At or below 50, I think for 9 months now, and that generally reconciles with industry volumes Certainly, it aligns with the 2nd quarter when we were down 14%. But overall, We think that some of the conversations that we've had that we get the sense that inventory levels are normalizing a bit. That's kind of supported my baseline thinking of getting back to some consistency with volumes going into the second half of this year and that would be back in alignment with what our normal Typically, in the Q3, our shipments are up about 1.5% to 2% over the 2nd quarter and then we generally have about a 3.5% decrease in the 4th quarter. We've been there's been a pretty wide gap between our sequential actual sequential trends relative to the 10 year average For the past few quarters, so I felt like we were in a normalized environment.

Speaker 3

We're going to get back to closer to those 10 year average trends and then hopefully then get back to seeing real growth once we got into 2024. But so it seems like some of the tea leaves and some of the conversations that we've had with customers would suggest this normalization and then freight actually picking up and moving again, which was The positive that we were looking at and thinking about and planning for in terms of the second half of this year in 2024. And then obviously, we've had some recent developments that have accelerated things a little further here over the last week or so.

Speaker 15

Great. Really appreciate the color and I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Bascome Majors with Susquehanna.

Speaker 16

As you look back over the last couple of months and but inclusive of the last few days, can you talk a little bit about the Drivers of getting back to that normal sequential trend, and by that I mean specifically the like for like shipments from existing customers versus new customer acquisition versus anything else that you'd like to kind of size up directionally

Speaker 3

Yes. Like I said earlier, And we've talked about this on recent calls. From a core contract customer standpoint, we've actually had Good trends. And when we look at having a double digit decrease in volumes, that may seem counterintuitive. But Certainly, the economy has weighed on many customers and has impacted their trends.

Speaker 3

But when we look at our national account business and the wins that we've had versus losses, we continue to have the good wins and have not really lost any share to speak of with those larger national accounts, but they just had reduced volumes. We have lost and have talked about our business levels with 3rd party logistics companies has been down in recent quarters and that was still negative in the second quarter as well. But that's Something where I think that certainly shippers have been looking to save cost and they've been using the 3PLs to find Carriers that had a little cheaper price than us maybe and divert some freight away for that reason. But I think now, just like we've seen in prior cycles, service and capacity are coming squarely back into focus from any shippers. And so I think that lends itself to how we've won market share over the long term.

Speaker 3

Yes, there's not necessarily any one piece of business that's changing any more than others. We've got a lot of Within our largest accounts, these are long term strong relationships that we have between us and our customers. And Our sales team, our pricing team, they're staying in front of our customers and staying engaged and making sure that they know we're here when they need us. And getting those inbound phone calls and being able to take on some incremental business. So It's good to see, but we still would like to see the overall macro environment improving.

Speaker 3

We'd love to see the ISM going back above 50 and really talking about more of a true improvement in the underlying Demand environment versus what the supply situation in the industry might be.

Speaker 16

Thanks for that Adam.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Christopher Coon with Benchmark.

Speaker 3

Yes. Hi, good morning.

Speaker 2

I was just wondering the West Coast ports had

Speaker 15

a bit of a pickup in June. Just wondering, I know some of it is indirect, if that benefited

Operator

some

Speaker 15

of the volumes that you saw and then maybe if it picks up as the year progresses, would that help the volumes? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. This is Marty. I read the other day that in June, imports from China to the U. S. Failed 24%, Taiwan, it failed 23%, Vietnam, 11% and South Korea, 6%.

Speaker 2

So we haven't seen a lot of energy coming from those ports. As you know, we have a dray's division on the East Coast ports and those business levels are down there. So I think the whole global economy is still rather ill, but we're prepared to handle that too if it picks up, but we're not seeing any of that movement so far this year in an upward manner.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes the question and answer session. I would like to return the floor to Marty Freeman for any closing comments.

Speaker 2

Yes. I want to thank you all today for your participation, and we appreciate all the questions. And if you have any further questions, please feel

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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