NYSE:MSA MSA Safety Q2 2023 Earnings Report $155.54 +0.02 (+0.01%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$155.82 +0.28 (+0.18%) As of 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast MSA Safety EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.83Consensus EPS $1.46Beat/MissBeat by +$0.37One Year Ago EPS$1.29MSA Safety Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$447.00 millionExpected Revenue$421.14 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$25.86 millionYoY Revenue Growth+20.20%MSA Safety Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date7/31/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, August 1, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsMSA Safety's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by MSA Safety Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day, and welcome to the MSA Safety Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chris Hepler. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to MSA Safety's 2nd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. This is Chris Hepler, Executive Director Corporate Development and Investor Relations. With me today are Nish Vartanian, Chairman and CEO Lee Machesney, Senior Vice President and CFO And Steve Blanco, President and COO. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward looking statements Within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:05Forward looking statements include, but are not limited All projections and anticipated levels of future performance. Forward looking statements involve a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors That may cause our actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. These risks, uncertainties and other factors are detailed in our SEC filings. MSA Safety undertakes no duty to publicly update any forward looking statements made on this call except as required by law. We have included Certain non GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion this morning. Speaker 100:01:40The non GAAP reconciliations are available in the appendix of today's presentation. The presentation and press release are available on our Investor Relations website at investors. Msa safety.com. Moving on to today's agenda. First, Nish will discuss the key highlights of the quarter. Speaker 100:01:59He will then turn the call over to Steve to make a few remarks. Lee will then review our financial performance and outlook. To conclude, Nish will provide closing comments, at which time we will open up the call for your questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Nish. Speaker 200:02:16Thanks, Chris. Good morning, Andrew, and thank you for your interest in the work we do. I'll start on Slide 4. MSA is a purpose led company With the single mission of safety, we protect people, assets and the planet. In June, we celebrated our 100 and 9th year anniversary And the entrepreneurial spirit of our founders continues today. Speaker 200:02:39MSA has established itself as a global leader in the safety industry With strong market positions across our portfolio and around the world, our success is based on our innovation and passion for solving our customer safety challenges. We've made great progress over the years in delivering on our mission and living our purpose. As we look ahead, I believe our future is bright. Moving on to Slide 5, we delivered another quarter of strong results with double digit growth, healthy margin expansion and robust cash flow generation. I want to thank our team for their outstanding execution, which drove balanced growth across our business I want to provide an update on what we're seeing in our end markets. Speaker 200:03:26Our largest business, Firefighter safety has proven to be resilient over many years. Funding in this market is stable and largely comes from federal, State and local governments. The pipeline for business across our head to toe firefighter solutions remains strong and the outlook is healthy. Recently, we spoke about self contained breathing apparatus wins in both London and Los Angeles, and I'm pleased to see additional large orders in these geographies with fire departments in the UK, including West Midlands and in California, where we recently won Fresno. We've also made meaningful progress, Reducing lead times in our Globe Firefighter Protective Apparel business as a result of improved labor and material availability Operator00:04:13as well Speaker 200:04:13as operational execution. Our team's commitment to continuous improvement and the application of the MSA business has resulted in sustainable improvements in our execution and positive outcomes for our customers. To summarize, our firefighter safety business is performing well and positioned for future growth. In the Q2, growth was nearly 20% year over year, driven by 36% growth in firefighter helmets and protective clothing And 10% growth in breathing apparatus. Now moving on to our gas detection business. Speaker 200:04:52In the quarter, we saw double digit growth in both Fixed gas and flame detection and portable gas detection helped in part by an improving supply chain. Fixed gas and flame detection was up 32% year over year and portable gas detection grew by 17%. Our end markets continue to be stable across our gas detection business And our pipeline is solid. Finally, in our industrial PPE business, which includes head protection, fall protection and related safety products, We saw healthy growth in sales and orders in the quarter. Fall protection sales increased 27% Year over year and head protection grew by 8%. Speaker 200:05:34While we're pleased with our growth in industrial PPE, we're seeing macroeconomic variance Across the broad range of end markets we serve, demand in process industries and utilities remain stable, While non residential construction and general industrial have been mixed, a common theme we hear from our customers is that labor continues to be a challenge. Given that our industrial PPE products and solutions are closely tied to industrial employment and general economic activity, we continue to be measured And our near term outlook. I'll next provide an update on Bacharach. Last month marked the 2nd anniversary of our acquisition of the company And we're in the final stages of integration activities. Baccarat is performing well and the margins in the business are accretive. Speaker 200:06:24Bacharach is a leader in gas and leak detection technologies for heating, ventilation, air conditioning and refrigeration With Bacharach, we've been able to add scale to our HVAC and refrigeration product lines, further diversifying our gas detection business. I've also been impressed with the talent on the Bacharach team. The team is inspired by our values and mission And several associates have taken on new and expanded roles at MSA. Bacharach participates in a broad range of end markets And the evolving regulatory landscape for greenhouse gas emissions and customers' need to preserve refrigerants has been supportive to growth, which we expect to continue. We've had positive momentum with blue chip customers in the food retail and quick service restaurant sectors. Speaker 200:07:13And recently, we signed a $25,000,000 multiyear contract with the U. S. Navy. I'm very pleased with the value This acquisition is brought to our customers and organization. Turning to Slide 6, I want to say a few words about our recent leadership changes. Speaker 200:07:30Steve Blanco, Who many of you on this call have met was named our President and Chief Operating Officer. Succeeding him as President of our Americas segment is Stephanie Sciullo. Finally, Rick Rota has assumed the position of Chief Legal Officer. MSA continues to evolve as a company And these senior leadership changes reflect our deep bench of talent and our commitment to grow our leaders. Steve, Stephanie and Rick Have made a tremendous impact on MSA, and I'm confident in their ability to deliver results for our stakeholders going forward. Speaker 200:08:04These leaders are supported in their new roles by highly experienced and talented teams around the world. Before moving to the financial review, I'll ask Steve to say a few words regarding his new role and near term priorities. Speaker 300:08:19Thank you, Nish, and good morning. I want to start by saying thank you to our Board of Directors and to Nish for entrusting me in this new capacity. I'm excited by the opportunity to take on this global operating leadership role as we continue our journey to drive long term profitable growth at MSA. I'm focused on further leveraging the progress made in our Americas business over the past several years and the MSA business system to drive continued momentum across the business. As I get started in this role, I'm guided by 3 principles: Listen, learn and lead. Speaker 300:08:55Over the past several weeks, I've had the pleasure to meet with many of our talented associates around the world. My goal has been to understand their opportunities and challenges and to determine how we can best deliver on our commitments to our Customers, while continuously improving as a company. The deep level of talent we have across the organization and the commitment to our mission of safety is evident. I'm inspired by our mission each and every day and look forward to the many opportunities ahead. With that, I'll pass the call to Lee to discuss our Q2 financial results and outlook. Speaker 300:09:31Lee? Speaker 400:09:33Thank you, Steve, and a big congratulations to you, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining the call today. Let's get started on Slide 7 with the quarterly financial highlights. Overall, we had a robust performance in the 2nd quarter. Sales are $447,000,000 an increase of 20% over the prior year with positive contributions from each of our businesses and regions. Speaker 400:09:58Growth was again well balanced between unit volume and price. As Nish just noted, market conditions remain quite favorable for MSA. For the first half of the year, our book to bill was 1 times. Our commercial pipeline remains solid across all of our businesses. We were encouraged that we were able to reduce our backlog sequentially due to sustained progress with our supply chain. Speaker 400:10:22We will continue to focus on making further progress in the coming quarters. And of more recent note, our orders in July are trending up High single digits year over year across the majority of our businesses. Now moving on to margins. Gross profit margin for the 2nd quarter was 47.8%, up 360 basis points over the prior year and 2 30 basis points sequentially. Adjusted operating margin of 23.2 percent was up 5.60 basis points over the prior year and incremental operating margin was more than 50% in the quarter. Speaker 400:11:02Our strong margin performance was driven by higher volume and the benefits of the MSA business system as price realization and operational productivity Adjusted diluted net earnings per share were $1.83 a 42% increase over the prior year. The increase was largely due to our Higher operating profit, which is partially offset by higher interest expense in the quarter. Now, I'd like to review our segment performance. In our Americas segment, Growth was 22% year over year and was balanced across our regions and businesses, particularly firefighter helmets and protective Apparel, fixed gas and flame detection and fall protection. Adjusted operating margin was 30.7%. Speaker 400:11:53Healthy year over year margin expansion was driven by higher volume, price realization and disciplined cost management. We also had strong results in our International segment. Growth was 16% year over year and balanced across our regions and businesses, particularly within fixed gas flame detection, fall protection and breathing apparatus. Adjusted operating margin was 15.7%, representing 140 basis points of expansion compared to the prior period and driven by strategic pricing initiatives and improved operational productivity. Now turning to Slide 8 on cash flow and leverage. Speaker 400:12:35Free cash flow in the quarter was $85,000,000 representing a conversion rate of 118%. Free cash flow improved due to higher earnings and solid execution with working capital. During the quarter, we invested $10,000,000 in CapEx, We paid $59,000,000 in debt and returned $18,000,000 in dividends to our shareholders. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet position as we progress through the year. Net leverage at the end of the second quarter is 1.7 times. Speaker 400:13:06Since the beginning of the year, when we announced the legacy liability divestiture, We reduced leverage by a half turn as a result of robust cash flow generation, profitable growth and disciplined investment strategies. Net debt at the end of the second quarter was $667,000,000 a sequential reduction of 64,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA for this trailing 12 month period ended June 30, 2023 was $401,000,000 or 24 percent of net sales. In light of the rising interest rate environment, in late June, we issued $50,000,000 of 5.25 percent fixed rate senior notes And use the proceeds to redeem borrowings on our revolver. This helped lower our blended interest rate and reduced our percentage of floating rate debt, while extending the maturity date into 2028. We believe the strength of our balance sheet is a strategic asset. Speaker 400:14:03It provides us with the optionality to make investments in our business through economic cycles. Our ongoing investments in MSA's Safety Products and Solutions As well as strategic acquisitions have enhanced our positioning with customers and increased our capacity to serve our mission. Now I'd like to move to our outlook for the remainder of the year on Page 9. We enter the second half with Optimism. Our end markets are healthy, demand trends are positive and our backlog remains elevated. Speaker 400:14:37However, a dynamic macroeconomic backdrop could result in a more challenging operating environment. Given the potential for increased uncertainty, We're remaining agile, disciplined on costs and focused on executing our strategy to deliver profitable growth and generate strong cash flow. We entered the back half of the year with solid momentum. We continue to expect mid single digit growth in the back half of the year, With higher growth weighted to the Q3, combined with our strong first half performance, we are increasing our growth outlook to low double digits for the full year. Our outlook balances the many opportunities and risks we've seen throughout the year. Speaker 400:15:22To wrap up, we're pleased with our strong performance in the second quarter and the first half of the year. Our results reflect our team's consistent execution in The durability of our businesses, the strength of our market positions and the resiliency of our end markets. With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:15:41call back to Nish. Thanks, Lee. I'm on Slide 10. We had great results this quarter and for the first half of the year. Our performance demonstrates the strength of our portfolio and our team's commitment to delivering solutions that enable our customers to operate safely. Speaker 200:15:58Over the past several years, through new product introductions and strategic acquisitions, we've evolved our business to be more resilient and better positioned to deliver sustainable growth. At MSA, we're driven by our mission and passion for safety. MSA has proven resilient over our 109 year history. Our innovative safety equipment and solutions serve our customers' most critical safety needs. We've built a diversified portfolio with market leading positions in firefighter safety, gas detection and industrial PPE, and we're positioned to deliver durable growth. Speaker 200:16:34The combination of our talented and driven team, differentiated portfolio, resilient end markets and strong balance sheet positions us well to Continue delivering shareholder value into the future. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A. And I also want to mention that Stephanie Sciulla, President of the Americas and Bob Leinen, President of International will be joining us for the Q and A session. Operator00:17:21And our first question comes from Larry De Maria from William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:28Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Larry. Good morning. First, Let's talk about margins if we can. Speaker 500:17:37Incremental margins obviously exceptionally strong in the first half. How do we think about second half incrementals? Maybe they come back down to earth. And then I have a follow-up on margins. Speaker 200:17:47Sure. So Lee, why don't you take that? Speaker 400:17:50Yes. So Larry, good morning. So as you know, we like to target 30% to 40% incremental. So we're certainly delighted with the first half being The higher end there, what's behind that is frankly Speaker 500:18:05the momentum we've had for the last Speaker 400:18:06couple of years with the business system. You didn't see all that before because you had things like broker buys and COVID to navigate. So you're seeing all those efforts come through. I think as you now then think about the second half of the year, we see similar opportunities. So again, The range is 30% to 40%, but we think we'll be on the higher end. Speaker 400:18:29That will come through like primarily Different than probably how you looked at it is higher gross margin. So wouldn't be surprised to use 47% to 48% gross margin in the back half. And you'd see that translate into And operating margin in the 21% range. And again, so if you do that math, it's just about 40% incrementals. Speaker 500:18:55Perfect. That's helpful. Great color. And then I was going to ask about the gross margins, obviously, remarkable at 47.8%, I think. Have we reached a new range? Speaker 500:19:06I know a lot of things are working out well and some of the friction over the last couple of years is easing. But is 47 or 46 or is there a new range to underwrite going forward assuming supply chains are okay? I'm thinking about obviously beyond Yes. Speaker 400:19:21I mean, as we look forward, as we talked about, we still have the confidence that whether it's 30% to 40% incrementals, the mid single digit growth, those are that's our mindset looking forward. So yes, I We are there's always a volume component to it, right? So that's certainly helping. But the fundamentals of driving productivity, driving mix, Innovation, balancing cost and inflation to help gross margin, also to leverage that into some of those into SG and A. That's our mindset, Larry. Speaker 400:19:56So that's what I would use as a foundation going forward. Speaker 500:20:00Okay. And if I could shift gears towards top line. It sounds like orders trended better through the quarter. I think they were up high single digits you said, but we're looking at mid single digits in the second half. How do we rectify the 2 or is it just obviously watching the macro and some uncertainty out there, but if you have some backlog Help us understand Speaker 200:20:29that. Yes, Larry, that really gets back to being responsibly optimistic. We have some optimism with our business And we think a lot of good things can happen through the back half Speaker 600:20:39of the Speaker 200:20:39year. But we're also being responsible and looking at the macroeconomic Conditions and we saw some mixed results in some of the end markets for our industrial PPE products And that started to moderate a bit for certain products in certain geographies around the world. So we're just watching that closely and Certainly looking at that and as we get into the second half, we have a lot of confidence around our fire service business. That's on a different funding cycle. That's We have some strong resiliency built into our business model and represents 40% of our business. Speaker 200:21:16So we believe the fire service business regardless of the macro Economic conditions will continue to do well. And then that fixed gas and flame detection business, which is a late cycle product line that's Resilient in downturns, so we believe that that business will continue to do well along with portable gas detection as oil and gas is pretty strong. We think overall the business should be resilient through any type of downturn that may occur during the back half of the year. Speaker 500:21:45Okay, thanks. I'll pass it on. Operator00:21:49Our next question comes from Stanley Elliott from Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:55Good morning, everyone. Thank you for the question and congratulations and welcome Steve and Stephanie. Thank you. Can you guys talk a little bit about what's going on with the free cash flow profile? I mean massive improvement kind of year over year. Speaker 600:22:10Was it working capital focus? Is it the pricing flowing through? Just anything to help us with and how should we think about the sustainability of the conversion Going forward. Speaker 200:22:22Yes. Thanks, Stanley. I'm really pleased with the team's work and results around working capital. They've been leveraging the MSA business system for improvement. Lee has done a really nice job in driving and leading what we call the cash counsel at MSA. Speaker 200:22:36He's put a team together to stay after that. And I think he's done a real nice job in leading that. So why don't I have Lee add a little color as To where we are and where we're headed. Speaker 400:22:46Yes. So we've talked we had an opportunity to be more efficient. And certainly, With no fault, COVID has changed the supply chain. We had to respond to that. And the opportunity we had this year was to continue Growth potential we have, but also to do it with a little bit more efficiency. Speaker 400:23:06So really, it's been a nice rally across the entire organization. I can give props Everyone, certainly, I give the ops team a lot of credit as well, but really everyone's participate in this. And we We're encouraged by the progress as you think about growing 20% and then keeping things like inventory actually Flattery even now in a downward trajectory. We've really worked on improving the mix there. And there's a whole series of projects Really all elements of working capital that we're focused on. Speaker 400:23:37So we've talked about an improvement consistently throughout the year. I would say we're A little bit ahead of schedule, which is encouraging. So we certainly see in the back half some of the same opportunity you would But in terms of changing things, we're not going to get back to where we were 4 or 5 years ago per se With the supply chain we have now, but we definitely have some further opportunities. So we're working to get our working capital to the lower 30s this year, and And then we work to get into the 20s next year would be the mindset, Stanley. Speaker 600:24:14Perfect. And congratulations on the Baccarat Announcement, especially to win a sizable contract like that for a newer business for you all. Can you talk about the integration? Talk about how You're able to share those technologies or to what extent you're able to share the technologies with some of the existing kind of gas detection systems that you have in place? Speaker 200:24:38Yes. Stanley, we had some business in that HVAC refrigeration market. It was a small piece of our And that was an area we made a determination that we wanted to invest in and grow that piece. And so obviously, Bacharach being a leader in that And we feel that that's a space that has regulatory tailwinds to it, as I mentioned in my prepared comments. There's a nice opportunity to grow that business, number 1. Speaker 200:25:03And number 2, from a profitability standpoint, we thought we could show some improvement there. So we continue to work through our channel partners and the Bacharach channel partners to offer both lines, the MSA and the Bacharach products, and we're able to bring the Bacharach products through the MSA channels to enhance some of their revenue. So We're really excited about the future prospects there and I'm really enthusiastic about the workforce. The workforce has been fantastic. They're really pleased to be part of the MSA mission and what we do, and we've seen a number of those employees take on added responsibility with MSA to contribute to our overall Speaker 600:25:44Great. And then lastly, can you talk about the M and A landscape and you guys are deleveraging Probably faster than what we would have guessed. I get it that the markets kind of seized up a little bit with COVID, but How are you all thinking about M and A tracking right now? And kind of where would some of the focuses be? Speaker 200:26:06Right. So and I agree. We have delevered faster than our internal plan, which I'm excited about. And hopefully, we can continue that in the Q3 And get ourselves in a strong position. We continue to have a good pipeline of acquisitions as we go forward. Speaker 200:26:22We're obviously, we've added a lot of Value to the organization through past acquisitions and in the pipelines are pretty full for us. And I'll Thanks over to Lee to add a little more color about where we are and where we're headed with that. Yes. Speaker 400:26:36So I mean, I think Nish described it well. We've been very disciplined. Last 5 years, we've done 4 deals that we're delighted with, something you can always say when you do M and A. I think part of that is that discipline. So Nish said, we continue to participate in what's going on in the marketplace. Speaker 400:26:54Certainly, another bolt on acquisition would be interesting, But it's going to have to hit the thresholds we're looking for. And I think those bars are even higher just given the cost of debt and things like that, Stanley, but we are active. Chris is active. Stephanie, Bob and Steve are active In the pursuit and we'll see how it plays out. Certainly, having the leverage down to 1.7 is encouraging. Speaker 400:27:21If we make continued progress here in the Q3, we bid the lowest leverage point in 2 years. So it certainly is in a good place. But again, it's got to check all the boxes for us to move forward. We don't have to do something. We would do something if it makes sense. Speaker 600:27:36Perfect. Thanks everybody and best of luck. Speaker 200:27:38Thank you, Stanley. Operator00:27:45The next question comes from Rob Mason from Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:27:49Yes, good morning. There was I guess the comment book to bill for the first half of the year was around 1. So, you did highlight that elevated backlog remains an opportunity. It was good to see maybe some of the supply chain cooperating in the 2nd quarter worked at lower. But I'm curious what your outlook for the second half of the year In bads with respect to being able to work backlog for? Speaker 200:28:17That is an opportunity for us and with back But we don't have a lot of backlog work down in the back half of the year. That remains an opportunity for us when you look at the back half of the year. If we could reduce that backlog. One way to look at the backlog is over the past 4 quarters, our book to bill was 1 And we grew 16%. And as Lee mentioned, over the first half of the year, the book to bill was 1 We grew 20%. Speaker 200:28:49So we've done a nice job of increasing our put through and operations and working with the supply chains. Hopefully, we can continue to do that and work that backlog down a bit in the second half, but we don't have a lot built into the model at this point. So that remains to be an opportunity. Lee, anything you want to add to that? Speaker 400:29:08Yes. I think, Rob, just when you think about the back half, we talked about mid single digit growth and higher in the Q3. It's the same baseline we've used all year, right. So we aren't counting on backlog or supply chain Improving, it could become an opportunity in case we ran into some headwinds. We're taking a conservative view on what happens with the industrial PPE market. Speaker 400:29:34They turned out to be better than that consumer view. It could be an opportunity and we benefited from that in the first half of the year. So again, we talk about being responsible here. If things were to turn into a bit of a headwind, I think we're cushioned. And if they're not, we have an opportunity to do even a little bit better, but right now that's our call point and we'll update 90 days from now on how it plays out. Speaker 700:29:58I see. How are you thinking about the pricing environment at this point? Again, as you look into the back half of the year, Where you stand relative to inflation price cost, is that an opportunity or is there anything planned on that side? Speaker 200:30:16Steve, why don't you take that? Speaker 300:30:17Yes. Hey, Rob. How are you doing? So when you think about when we think price, we look at we think our price value is really well aligned right now with the market. We think we've been very, very effective offsetting inflation with price And we'll continue to do so as necessary. Speaker 300:30:34I mean, we're watching the cost inputs very closely. Right now, We're pretty comfortable with where we're at, but we'll certainly react as we need to. Speaker 100:30:47Very good. Speaker 700:30:49Just last question. There was a mention, some mix trends in July, perhaps by geography. I was just wanted to see if you could walk Globally, just through some of the regions, in particular, what you're seeing perhaps in Europe, which is printing lower macroeconomic statistics Versus the Americas? Speaker 200:31:10Lee, why don't you take that? Speaker 400:31:12Yes, I'll start there. So, hey, interesting, we talked about obviously the Incoming orders through July are in the upper single digits so far. It's Rob, it's very consistent Across the globe, across the product lines, similar to what we've experienced in the first half of the year. It's interesting. The European business obviously has the macro environments participating in, but think the team has done a nice job there. Speaker 400:31:43We entered the back half with a strong backlog. Certainly, the fire business is as strong as it's ever been. So Despite that environment, that's why we continue to be optimistic as we look forward here. Very good. Thank you. Speaker 600:32:02Thank you. Speaker 400:32:03All right. Operator00:32:03Excellent. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference Speaker 100:32:13Thank you. If you missed a portion of today's call, an audio will be made available later today on our Investor Relations website and will be available for the next 90 days. We appreciate you joining us this morning, And we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Thank you. Operator00:32:29The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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The company's core product offerings include fixed gas and flame detection systems, such as gas detection monitoring systems, and flame detectors and open-path infrared gas detectors; breathing apparatus products, including self-contained breathing apparatus; hand-held portable gas detection instruments to detect the presence or absence of various gases in the air; industrial head protection products; firefighter helmets and protective apparel; and fall protection equipment, such as confined space equipment, harnesses, lanyards, and self-retracting lifelines, as well as engineered systems. In addition, the company offers air-purifying respirators, eye and face protection products, ballistic helmets, and gas masks. It serves distributors and end-users through indirect and direct sales channels. The company offers its products under the V-Gard, Cairns, and Gallet brand names. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day, and welcome to the MSA Safety Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chris Hepler. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to MSA Safety's 2nd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. This is Chris Hepler, Executive Director Corporate Development and Investor Relations. With me today are Nish Vartanian, Chairman and CEO Lee Machesney, Senior Vice President and CFO And Steve Blanco, President and COO. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward looking statements Within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:05Forward looking statements include, but are not limited All projections and anticipated levels of future performance. Forward looking statements involve a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors That may cause our actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. These risks, uncertainties and other factors are detailed in our SEC filings. MSA Safety undertakes no duty to publicly update any forward looking statements made on this call except as required by law. We have included Certain non GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion this morning. Speaker 100:01:40The non GAAP reconciliations are available in the appendix of today's presentation. The presentation and press release are available on our Investor Relations website at investors. Msa safety.com. Moving on to today's agenda. First, Nish will discuss the key highlights of the quarter. Speaker 100:01:59He will then turn the call over to Steve to make a few remarks. Lee will then review our financial performance and outlook. To conclude, Nish will provide closing comments, at which time we will open up the call for your questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Nish. Speaker 200:02:16Thanks, Chris. Good morning, Andrew, and thank you for your interest in the work we do. I'll start on Slide 4. MSA is a purpose led company With the single mission of safety, we protect people, assets and the planet. In June, we celebrated our 100 and 9th year anniversary And the entrepreneurial spirit of our founders continues today. Speaker 200:02:39MSA has established itself as a global leader in the safety industry With strong market positions across our portfolio and around the world, our success is based on our innovation and passion for solving our customer safety challenges. We've made great progress over the years in delivering on our mission and living our purpose. As we look ahead, I believe our future is bright. Moving on to Slide 5, we delivered another quarter of strong results with double digit growth, healthy margin expansion and robust cash flow generation. I want to thank our team for their outstanding execution, which drove balanced growth across our business I want to provide an update on what we're seeing in our end markets. Speaker 200:03:26Our largest business, Firefighter safety has proven to be resilient over many years. Funding in this market is stable and largely comes from federal, State and local governments. The pipeline for business across our head to toe firefighter solutions remains strong and the outlook is healthy. Recently, we spoke about self contained breathing apparatus wins in both London and Los Angeles, and I'm pleased to see additional large orders in these geographies with fire departments in the UK, including West Midlands and in California, where we recently won Fresno. We've also made meaningful progress, Reducing lead times in our Globe Firefighter Protective Apparel business as a result of improved labor and material availability Operator00:04:13as well Speaker 200:04:13as operational execution. Our team's commitment to continuous improvement and the application of the MSA business has resulted in sustainable improvements in our execution and positive outcomes for our customers. To summarize, our firefighter safety business is performing well and positioned for future growth. In the Q2, growth was nearly 20% year over year, driven by 36% growth in firefighter helmets and protective clothing And 10% growth in breathing apparatus. Now moving on to our gas detection business. Speaker 200:04:52In the quarter, we saw double digit growth in both Fixed gas and flame detection and portable gas detection helped in part by an improving supply chain. Fixed gas and flame detection was up 32% year over year and portable gas detection grew by 17%. Our end markets continue to be stable across our gas detection business And our pipeline is solid. Finally, in our industrial PPE business, which includes head protection, fall protection and related safety products, We saw healthy growth in sales and orders in the quarter. Fall protection sales increased 27% Year over year and head protection grew by 8%. Speaker 200:05:34While we're pleased with our growth in industrial PPE, we're seeing macroeconomic variance Across the broad range of end markets we serve, demand in process industries and utilities remain stable, While non residential construction and general industrial have been mixed, a common theme we hear from our customers is that labor continues to be a challenge. Given that our industrial PPE products and solutions are closely tied to industrial employment and general economic activity, we continue to be measured And our near term outlook. I'll next provide an update on Bacharach. Last month marked the 2nd anniversary of our acquisition of the company And we're in the final stages of integration activities. Baccarat is performing well and the margins in the business are accretive. Speaker 200:06:24Bacharach is a leader in gas and leak detection technologies for heating, ventilation, air conditioning and refrigeration With Bacharach, we've been able to add scale to our HVAC and refrigeration product lines, further diversifying our gas detection business. I've also been impressed with the talent on the Bacharach team. The team is inspired by our values and mission And several associates have taken on new and expanded roles at MSA. Bacharach participates in a broad range of end markets And the evolving regulatory landscape for greenhouse gas emissions and customers' need to preserve refrigerants has been supportive to growth, which we expect to continue. We've had positive momentum with blue chip customers in the food retail and quick service restaurant sectors. Speaker 200:07:13And recently, we signed a $25,000,000 multiyear contract with the U. S. Navy. I'm very pleased with the value This acquisition is brought to our customers and organization. Turning to Slide 6, I want to say a few words about our recent leadership changes. Speaker 200:07:30Steve Blanco, Who many of you on this call have met was named our President and Chief Operating Officer. Succeeding him as President of our Americas segment is Stephanie Sciullo. Finally, Rick Rota has assumed the position of Chief Legal Officer. MSA continues to evolve as a company And these senior leadership changes reflect our deep bench of talent and our commitment to grow our leaders. Steve, Stephanie and Rick Have made a tremendous impact on MSA, and I'm confident in their ability to deliver results for our stakeholders going forward. Speaker 200:08:04These leaders are supported in their new roles by highly experienced and talented teams around the world. Before moving to the financial review, I'll ask Steve to say a few words regarding his new role and near term priorities. Speaker 300:08:19Thank you, Nish, and good morning. I want to start by saying thank you to our Board of Directors and to Nish for entrusting me in this new capacity. I'm excited by the opportunity to take on this global operating leadership role as we continue our journey to drive long term profitable growth at MSA. I'm focused on further leveraging the progress made in our Americas business over the past several years and the MSA business system to drive continued momentum across the business. As I get started in this role, I'm guided by 3 principles: Listen, learn and lead. Speaker 300:08:55Over the past several weeks, I've had the pleasure to meet with many of our talented associates around the world. My goal has been to understand their opportunities and challenges and to determine how we can best deliver on our commitments to our Customers, while continuously improving as a company. The deep level of talent we have across the organization and the commitment to our mission of safety is evident. I'm inspired by our mission each and every day and look forward to the many opportunities ahead. With that, I'll pass the call to Lee to discuss our Q2 financial results and outlook. Speaker 300:09:31Lee? Speaker 400:09:33Thank you, Steve, and a big congratulations to you, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining the call today. Let's get started on Slide 7 with the quarterly financial highlights. Overall, we had a robust performance in the 2nd quarter. Sales are $447,000,000 an increase of 20% over the prior year with positive contributions from each of our businesses and regions. Speaker 400:09:58Growth was again well balanced between unit volume and price. As Nish just noted, market conditions remain quite favorable for MSA. For the first half of the year, our book to bill was 1 times. Our commercial pipeline remains solid across all of our businesses. We were encouraged that we were able to reduce our backlog sequentially due to sustained progress with our supply chain. Speaker 400:10:22We will continue to focus on making further progress in the coming quarters. And of more recent note, our orders in July are trending up High single digits year over year across the majority of our businesses. Now moving on to margins. Gross profit margin for the 2nd quarter was 47.8%, up 360 basis points over the prior year and 2 30 basis points sequentially. Adjusted operating margin of 23.2 percent was up 5.60 basis points over the prior year and incremental operating margin was more than 50% in the quarter. Speaker 400:11:02Our strong margin performance was driven by higher volume and the benefits of the MSA business system as price realization and operational productivity Adjusted diluted net earnings per share were $1.83 a 42% increase over the prior year. The increase was largely due to our Higher operating profit, which is partially offset by higher interest expense in the quarter. Now, I'd like to review our segment performance. In our Americas segment, Growth was 22% year over year and was balanced across our regions and businesses, particularly firefighter helmets and protective Apparel, fixed gas and flame detection and fall protection. Adjusted operating margin was 30.7%. Speaker 400:11:53Healthy year over year margin expansion was driven by higher volume, price realization and disciplined cost management. We also had strong results in our International segment. Growth was 16% year over year and balanced across our regions and businesses, particularly within fixed gas flame detection, fall protection and breathing apparatus. Adjusted operating margin was 15.7%, representing 140 basis points of expansion compared to the prior period and driven by strategic pricing initiatives and improved operational productivity. Now turning to Slide 8 on cash flow and leverage. Speaker 400:12:35Free cash flow in the quarter was $85,000,000 representing a conversion rate of 118%. Free cash flow improved due to higher earnings and solid execution with working capital. During the quarter, we invested $10,000,000 in CapEx, We paid $59,000,000 in debt and returned $18,000,000 in dividends to our shareholders. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet position as we progress through the year. Net leverage at the end of the second quarter is 1.7 times. Speaker 400:13:06Since the beginning of the year, when we announced the legacy liability divestiture, We reduced leverage by a half turn as a result of robust cash flow generation, profitable growth and disciplined investment strategies. Net debt at the end of the second quarter was $667,000,000 a sequential reduction of 64,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA for this trailing 12 month period ended June 30, 2023 was $401,000,000 or 24 percent of net sales. In light of the rising interest rate environment, in late June, we issued $50,000,000 of 5.25 percent fixed rate senior notes And use the proceeds to redeem borrowings on our revolver. This helped lower our blended interest rate and reduced our percentage of floating rate debt, while extending the maturity date into 2028. We believe the strength of our balance sheet is a strategic asset. Speaker 400:14:03It provides us with the optionality to make investments in our business through economic cycles. Our ongoing investments in MSA's Safety Products and Solutions As well as strategic acquisitions have enhanced our positioning with customers and increased our capacity to serve our mission. Now I'd like to move to our outlook for the remainder of the year on Page 9. We enter the second half with Optimism. Our end markets are healthy, demand trends are positive and our backlog remains elevated. Speaker 400:14:37However, a dynamic macroeconomic backdrop could result in a more challenging operating environment. Given the potential for increased uncertainty, We're remaining agile, disciplined on costs and focused on executing our strategy to deliver profitable growth and generate strong cash flow. We entered the back half of the year with solid momentum. We continue to expect mid single digit growth in the back half of the year, With higher growth weighted to the Q3, combined with our strong first half performance, we are increasing our growth outlook to low double digits for the full year. Our outlook balances the many opportunities and risks we've seen throughout the year. Speaker 400:15:22To wrap up, we're pleased with our strong performance in the second quarter and the first half of the year. Our results reflect our team's consistent execution in The durability of our businesses, the strength of our market positions and the resiliency of our end markets. With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:15:41call back to Nish. Thanks, Lee. I'm on Slide 10. We had great results this quarter and for the first half of the year. Our performance demonstrates the strength of our portfolio and our team's commitment to delivering solutions that enable our customers to operate safely. Speaker 200:15:58Over the past several years, through new product introductions and strategic acquisitions, we've evolved our business to be more resilient and better positioned to deliver sustainable growth. At MSA, we're driven by our mission and passion for safety. MSA has proven resilient over our 109 year history. Our innovative safety equipment and solutions serve our customers' most critical safety needs. We've built a diversified portfolio with market leading positions in firefighter safety, gas detection and industrial PPE, and we're positioned to deliver durable growth. Speaker 200:16:34The combination of our talented and driven team, differentiated portfolio, resilient end markets and strong balance sheet positions us well to Continue delivering shareholder value into the future. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A. And I also want to mention that Stephanie Sciulla, President of the Americas and Bob Leinen, President of International will be joining us for the Q and A session. Operator00:17:21And our first question comes from Larry De Maria from William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:28Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Larry. Good morning. First, Let's talk about margins if we can. Speaker 500:17:37Incremental margins obviously exceptionally strong in the first half. How do we think about second half incrementals? Maybe they come back down to earth. And then I have a follow-up on margins. Speaker 200:17:47Sure. So Lee, why don't you take that? Speaker 400:17:50Yes. So Larry, good morning. So as you know, we like to target 30% to 40% incremental. So we're certainly delighted with the first half being The higher end there, what's behind that is frankly Speaker 500:18:05the momentum we've had for the last Speaker 400:18:06couple of years with the business system. You didn't see all that before because you had things like broker buys and COVID to navigate. So you're seeing all those efforts come through. I think as you now then think about the second half of the year, we see similar opportunities. So again, The range is 30% to 40%, but we think we'll be on the higher end. Speaker 400:18:29That will come through like primarily Different than probably how you looked at it is higher gross margin. So wouldn't be surprised to use 47% to 48% gross margin in the back half. And you'd see that translate into And operating margin in the 21% range. And again, so if you do that math, it's just about 40% incrementals. Speaker 500:18:55Perfect. That's helpful. Great color. And then I was going to ask about the gross margins, obviously, remarkable at 47.8%, I think. Have we reached a new range? Speaker 500:19:06I know a lot of things are working out well and some of the friction over the last couple of years is easing. But is 47 or 46 or is there a new range to underwrite going forward assuming supply chains are okay? I'm thinking about obviously beyond Yes. Speaker 400:19:21I mean, as we look forward, as we talked about, we still have the confidence that whether it's 30% to 40% incrementals, the mid single digit growth, those are that's our mindset looking forward. So yes, I We are there's always a volume component to it, right? So that's certainly helping. But the fundamentals of driving productivity, driving mix, Innovation, balancing cost and inflation to help gross margin, also to leverage that into some of those into SG and A. That's our mindset, Larry. Speaker 400:19:56So that's what I would use as a foundation going forward. Speaker 500:20:00Okay. And if I could shift gears towards top line. It sounds like orders trended better through the quarter. I think they were up high single digits you said, but we're looking at mid single digits in the second half. How do we rectify the 2 or is it just obviously watching the macro and some uncertainty out there, but if you have some backlog Help us understand Speaker 200:20:29that. Yes, Larry, that really gets back to being responsibly optimistic. We have some optimism with our business And we think a lot of good things can happen through the back half Speaker 600:20:39of the Speaker 200:20:39year. But we're also being responsible and looking at the macroeconomic Conditions and we saw some mixed results in some of the end markets for our industrial PPE products And that started to moderate a bit for certain products in certain geographies around the world. So we're just watching that closely and Certainly looking at that and as we get into the second half, we have a lot of confidence around our fire service business. That's on a different funding cycle. That's We have some strong resiliency built into our business model and represents 40% of our business. Speaker 200:21:16So we believe the fire service business regardless of the macro Economic conditions will continue to do well. And then that fixed gas and flame detection business, which is a late cycle product line that's Resilient in downturns, so we believe that that business will continue to do well along with portable gas detection as oil and gas is pretty strong. We think overall the business should be resilient through any type of downturn that may occur during the back half of the year. Speaker 500:21:45Okay, thanks. I'll pass it on. Operator00:21:49Our next question comes from Stanley Elliott from Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:55Good morning, everyone. Thank you for the question and congratulations and welcome Steve and Stephanie. Thank you. Can you guys talk a little bit about what's going on with the free cash flow profile? I mean massive improvement kind of year over year. Speaker 600:22:10Was it working capital focus? Is it the pricing flowing through? Just anything to help us with and how should we think about the sustainability of the conversion Going forward. Speaker 200:22:22Yes. Thanks, Stanley. I'm really pleased with the team's work and results around working capital. They've been leveraging the MSA business system for improvement. Lee has done a really nice job in driving and leading what we call the cash counsel at MSA. Speaker 200:22:36He's put a team together to stay after that. And I think he's done a real nice job in leading that. So why don't I have Lee add a little color as To where we are and where we're headed. Speaker 400:22:46Yes. So we've talked we had an opportunity to be more efficient. And certainly, With no fault, COVID has changed the supply chain. We had to respond to that. And the opportunity we had this year was to continue Growth potential we have, but also to do it with a little bit more efficiency. Speaker 400:23:06So really, it's been a nice rally across the entire organization. I can give props Everyone, certainly, I give the ops team a lot of credit as well, but really everyone's participate in this. And we We're encouraged by the progress as you think about growing 20% and then keeping things like inventory actually Flattery even now in a downward trajectory. We've really worked on improving the mix there. And there's a whole series of projects Really all elements of working capital that we're focused on. Speaker 400:23:37So we've talked about an improvement consistently throughout the year. I would say we're A little bit ahead of schedule, which is encouraging. So we certainly see in the back half some of the same opportunity you would But in terms of changing things, we're not going to get back to where we were 4 or 5 years ago per se With the supply chain we have now, but we definitely have some further opportunities. So we're working to get our working capital to the lower 30s this year, and And then we work to get into the 20s next year would be the mindset, Stanley. Speaker 600:24:14Perfect. And congratulations on the Baccarat Announcement, especially to win a sizable contract like that for a newer business for you all. Can you talk about the integration? Talk about how You're able to share those technologies or to what extent you're able to share the technologies with some of the existing kind of gas detection systems that you have in place? Speaker 200:24:38Yes. Stanley, we had some business in that HVAC refrigeration market. It was a small piece of our And that was an area we made a determination that we wanted to invest in and grow that piece. And so obviously, Bacharach being a leader in that And we feel that that's a space that has regulatory tailwinds to it, as I mentioned in my prepared comments. There's a nice opportunity to grow that business, number 1. Speaker 200:25:03And number 2, from a profitability standpoint, we thought we could show some improvement there. So we continue to work through our channel partners and the Bacharach channel partners to offer both lines, the MSA and the Bacharach products, and we're able to bring the Bacharach products through the MSA channels to enhance some of their revenue. So We're really excited about the future prospects there and I'm really enthusiastic about the workforce. The workforce has been fantastic. They're really pleased to be part of the MSA mission and what we do, and we've seen a number of those employees take on added responsibility with MSA to contribute to our overall Speaker 600:25:44Great. And then lastly, can you talk about the M and A landscape and you guys are deleveraging Probably faster than what we would have guessed. I get it that the markets kind of seized up a little bit with COVID, but How are you all thinking about M and A tracking right now? And kind of where would some of the focuses be? Speaker 200:26:06Right. So and I agree. We have delevered faster than our internal plan, which I'm excited about. And hopefully, we can continue that in the Q3 And get ourselves in a strong position. We continue to have a good pipeline of acquisitions as we go forward. Speaker 200:26:22We're obviously, we've added a lot of Value to the organization through past acquisitions and in the pipelines are pretty full for us. And I'll Thanks over to Lee to add a little more color about where we are and where we're headed with that. Yes. Speaker 400:26:36So I mean, I think Nish described it well. We've been very disciplined. Last 5 years, we've done 4 deals that we're delighted with, something you can always say when you do M and A. I think part of that is that discipline. So Nish said, we continue to participate in what's going on in the marketplace. Speaker 400:26:54Certainly, another bolt on acquisition would be interesting, But it's going to have to hit the thresholds we're looking for. And I think those bars are even higher just given the cost of debt and things like that, Stanley, but we are active. Chris is active. Stephanie, Bob and Steve are active In the pursuit and we'll see how it plays out. Certainly, having the leverage down to 1.7 is encouraging. Speaker 400:27:21If we make continued progress here in the Q3, we bid the lowest leverage point in 2 years. So it certainly is in a good place. But again, it's got to check all the boxes for us to move forward. We don't have to do something. We would do something if it makes sense. Speaker 600:27:36Perfect. Thanks everybody and best of luck. Speaker 200:27:38Thank you, Stanley. Operator00:27:45The next question comes from Rob Mason from Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:27:49Yes, good morning. There was I guess the comment book to bill for the first half of the year was around 1. So, you did highlight that elevated backlog remains an opportunity. It was good to see maybe some of the supply chain cooperating in the 2nd quarter worked at lower. But I'm curious what your outlook for the second half of the year In bads with respect to being able to work backlog for? Speaker 200:28:17That is an opportunity for us and with back But we don't have a lot of backlog work down in the back half of the year. That remains an opportunity for us when you look at the back half of the year. If we could reduce that backlog. One way to look at the backlog is over the past 4 quarters, our book to bill was 1 And we grew 16%. And as Lee mentioned, over the first half of the year, the book to bill was 1 We grew 20%. Speaker 200:28:49So we've done a nice job of increasing our put through and operations and working with the supply chains. Hopefully, we can continue to do that and work that backlog down a bit in the second half, but we don't have a lot built into the model at this point. So that remains to be an opportunity. Lee, anything you want to add to that? Speaker 400:29:08Yes. I think, Rob, just when you think about the back half, we talked about mid single digit growth and higher in the Q3. It's the same baseline we've used all year, right. So we aren't counting on backlog or supply chain Improving, it could become an opportunity in case we ran into some headwinds. We're taking a conservative view on what happens with the industrial PPE market. Speaker 400:29:34They turned out to be better than that consumer view. It could be an opportunity and we benefited from that in the first half of the year. So again, we talk about being responsible here. If things were to turn into a bit of a headwind, I think we're cushioned. And if they're not, we have an opportunity to do even a little bit better, but right now that's our call point and we'll update 90 days from now on how it plays out. Speaker 700:29:58I see. How are you thinking about the pricing environment at this point? Again, as you look into the back half of the year, Where you stand relative to inflation price cost, is that an opportunity or is there anything planned on that side? Speaker 200:30:16Steve, why don't you take that? Speaker 300:30:17Yes. Hey, Rob. How are you doing? So when you think about when we think price, we look at we think our price value is really well aligned right now with the market. We think we've been very, very effective offsetting inflation with price And we'll continue to do so as necessary. Speaker 300:30:34I mean, we're watching the cost inputs very closely. Right now, We're pretty comfortable with where we're at, but we'll certainly react as we need to. Speaker 100:30:47Very good. Speaker 700:30:49Just last question. There was a mention, some mix trends in July, perhaps by geography. I was just wanted to see if you could walk Globally, just through some of the regions, in particular, what you're seeing perhaps in Europe, which is printing lower macroeconomic statistics Versus the Americas? Speaker 200:31:10Lee, why don't you take that? Speaker 400:31:12Yes, I'll start there. So, hey, interesting, we talked about obviously the Incoming orders through July are in the upper single digits so far. It's Rob, it's very consistent Across the globe, across the product lines, similar to what we've experienced in the first half of the year. It's interesting. The European business obviously has the macro environments participating in, but think the team has done a nice job there. Speaker 400:31:43We entered the back half with a strong backlog. Certainly, the fire business is as strong as it's ever been. So Despite that environment, that's why we continue to be optimistic as we look forward here. Very good. Thank you. Speaker 600:32:02Thank you. Speaker 400:32:03All right. Operator00:32:03Excellent. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference Speaker 100:32:13Thank you. If you missed a portion of today's call, an audio will be made available later today on our Investor Relations website and will be available for the next 90 days. We appreciate you joining us this morning, And we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Thank you. Operator00:32:29The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may nowRead morePowered by