NASDAQ:CENT Central Garden & Pet Q3 2023 Earnings Report $35.52 -0.43 (-1.20%) Closing price 05/23/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$35.52 +0.00 (+0.00%) As of 05/23/2025 04:52 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Central Garden & Pet EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.12Consensus EPS $0.93Beat/MissBeat by +$0.19One Year Ago EPSN/ACentral Garden & Pet Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.02 billionExpected Revenue$1.03 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.71 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACentral Garden & Pet Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date8/2/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 2, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsCentral Garden & Pet's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Central Garden & Pet Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:02Welcome to the Central Garden and Pet Third Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Doug, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. Operator00:00:27As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Frederic Edelman, with Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. With me on the call today are Tim Colfer, Chief Executive Officer Nikolas Ahanas, Chief Financial Officer JD Walker, President, Garden Consumer Products and John Hansen, President, Pet Consumer Products. As usual, Tim will provide a business update and Nico will discuss results for our Q3 ended June 24, 2023 in more detail. Speaker 100:01:06After the prepared remarks, JD and John will join us for the Q and A. Our press release and related materials are available at ir. Unless otherwise stated, all gross comparisons made during this call are against the same period in the prior year. Before I turn the call over to Tim, I would like to remind you that statements made during this call, which are not historical facts, Including earnings per share and other guidance for fiscal 'twenty three, expectations for new capital investments, product launches and future acquisitions are forward looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied by forward looking statements. These risks and others are described in Central's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Including our annual report on Form 10 ks filed on November 22, 2022, Central undertakes no obligation to publicly update these forward Speaker 200:02:22Thank you, Frederica, and good afternoon, everyone. As we exit our fiscal third quarter, We're in a fundamentally improved position versus last quarter. Our main focus all year long has been on cost and cash, And the strength of our 3rd quarter performance underscores the good progress our team has made in these areas. We're pleased with our record results and the momentum we're building on our multiyear cost and simplicity program. With that, let me start the call with 3 key messages. Speaker 200:03:00First, our quarterly performance. Thanks to our financial discipline and the strong execution by Team Central, we delivered record Operating income and earnings per share in Q3, while expanding gross margin, growing market share and significantly improving our cash position. I want to thank our 7,000 associates for their hard work driving this record performance. Our Garden business, which had a challenging start to the season earlier in the year, Improved in the Q3 with top line growth, gross margin expansion and continued market share gains. The strong Garden performance coupled with the ongoing strength in Pet driven by our consumables brands and our short term actions to cut controllable costs are the key drivers of our 3rd quarter results. Speaker 200:04:01Specifically, Our net sales grew 1%. Our non GAAP gross margin improved by 160 basis points And non GAAP operating income increased by 20% to $137,000,000 translating into a non GAAP earnings per share of $1.75 Our operating income and EPS for the quarter are both all time highs, both on a GAAP and non GAAP basis. And importantly, our focus to turn inventory into cash is starting to pay off as demonstrated by more than $300,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet at quarter end. The second key message relates to the progress we're making on our cost and simplicity program. As we've shared on prior calls, we've embarked on a journey to simplify our business and improve our efficiency across the organization by rationalizing our footprint, Streamlining our portfolio and improving our cost structure. Speaker 200:05:12Today, we will update you on the successful closure of our private label pet bed facility we announced last quarter. In addition, we will share details about another Important project supporting our cost and simplicity program. We just announced the sale of our independent garden center distribution business. This sale significantly simplifies our garden business and improves margins, while we continue to serve our top 3 Garden retail partners and select other national accounts. We're building a pipeline of projects to reduce cost and simplify our business, focused on a number of key areas, including procurement, logistics, manufacturing, portfolio optimization and administrative costs. Speaker 200:06:05And we'll share more about our plans for fiscal 'twenty four in our November earnings call. And finally, our guidance for the balance of the year. When we updated the market in May, we took a prudent approach to guidance, given the poor start to the Garden season, driven by weather and retailer inventory dynamics. We were cautiously optimistic that Garden could improve in Q3 and indeed our teams delivered. While favorable weather was hit and miss during the last few months, we navigated the quarter well across both segments. Speaker 200:06:46Taking our record Q3 performance into account, coupled with the early visibility we have into the 4th quarter, We're raising our fiscal year non GAAP EPS guidance to $2.55 or better. This implies delivering modest Q4 EPS in what is typically a small quarter, albeit this year benefiting from the 53rd week. Now let's look at the quarter from a segment perspective, starting with Pet. Overall, we're pleased with our gross margin, operating and market share performance. Sales continued to grow in our pet consumables business across all categories, including dog and cat, bird, small animal and equine. Speaker 200:07:35Offsetting the mid single digit increase in pet consumables, We saw ongoing downward pressure on Pet Durables with declines versus prior years in the teens. This aligns with the softness the overall industry has experienced in enclosures and other durable supplies, driven by the slowdown in pet ownership affecting most species after the COVID spike. Thanks to our continued work over the last couple of years to build capabilities around consumer insights, brand marketing, innovation and category management, we took market share in many of our key categories, including dog toys and treats, bird, small animal and equine. E commerce remains the growth driver for the category at the expense of Pet Specialty. Our efforts to lean into online and digital are paying off As demonstrated by a double digit increase of our e commerce sales, which now represent 25% of total Pet sales. Speaker 200:08:39And given our investments in digital marketing excellence and the talent of our e commerce teams, we once again grew online market share broadly across many of our categories, including dog treats and toys, equine, flea and ticks, small animal and bird. Total pet ownership is down slightly versus the COVID peak in 2020. Pet parents are more engaged than ever in their pets lives. Pet parents stated that spending on their pets is the least likely of all spend categories to be reduced over the next 12 months, underscoring the resilience of the category even in a recessionary environment. All of these dynamics contributed to POS growth in the low single digits and helped to normalize the inventory dynamics across Moving now to our Garden segment. Speaker 200:09:57Following a challenging start to the season, we're pleased with the achievements of our Garden business in the Q3, growing versus prior year on all key financial metrics, including net sales, gross margin and operating income. We also continued to grow market share in wild bird and held share in grass seed and the overall garden category. Our teams executed well And we saw strong performance, particularly in May early June when the weather was more favorable. Live goods, packet seeds and wild bird were the primary drivers for the sales growth. Retailers continue to reduce their inventory and are Shifting to just in time replenishment as demonstrated by stronger POS than net sales. Speaker 200:10:46In addition, Certain retail partners decreased their lawn and garden off shelf display activity for the season. Foot traffic across home centers and mass channel remains below prior year, although improving over Q2. Garden e commerce sales are growing faster than brick and mortar as consumers shift more and more of their purchasing to online. While still small, our e commerce business increased more than 20% and now represents over 5 percent of total Garden sales, thanks to strong improvement in our retail media efforts, expanded assortment, winning content and enhanced Ship to home options across our top three customers. Turning now to our cost and simplicity program. Speaker 200:11:43Let me briefly recap. We're on a multiyear journey to reduce cost and simplify how we operate. We have a meaningful opportunity to better leverage the scale of our business. We're building a pipeline of projects across a number of key areas, including procurement, manufacturing, logistics, portfolio optimization and administrative costs. We expect to reduce complexity, which means fewer SKUs and fewer facilities. Speaker 200:12:17We seek to lower cost of goods sold through lower logistics costs and better procurement, lower administrative costs by leveraging our scale And we plan to shift more of our focus to our branded pet and garden consumer products. We believe the result Of these efforts, we'll drive higher margins and generate more fuel to invest in organic growth and advantageous M and A supporting our long term financial algorithm. In our Q2 call, we shared the first project of our cost and simplicity journey, The closure of a manufacturing and distribution facility in Athens, Texas. Our teams executed on plan The Athens production facility is now closed. The warehouse is empty and has been returned to the landlord. Speaker 200:13:13Pet Bed Manufacturing has ramped up and we're now shipping all customers from our Arden facilities. The entire team has done an amazing job managing the elements of this transition. We expect this project to deliver a cash on cash payback in less than 2 years and drive a step up in operating income for our more streamlined pet bed business. And as I mentioned earlier, today we're pleased to share yet another example of our cost and simplicity program in action. Just yesterday, we closed the sale of our independent garden center distribution business to BFG Supply, a leading national garden distributor specializing in the independent garden channel and regional chains. Speaker 200:14:06The independent garden center channel is highly complex to serve. With 4,500 SKUs, 4,400 customers and over 6,000 stores. This channel represented less than 5% of our Garden net sales and was dilutive to our Garden operating income margin. Going forward, BFG We'll distribute our branded garden products to the independent garden center channel. This partnership will allow Both companies to focus on their core strengths. Speaker 200:14:46While we're exiting the fragmented independent garden center channel, We will retain our 3rd party distribution business with our largest 3 retail partners and select other national accounts. This is an important step to meaningfully simplify our Garden business as it enables us to accelerate our cost and simplicity program and optimize our customer service footprint. As a consequence of this sale, we also intend to Close our Portland, Oregon garden distribution facility by the end of this calendar year. We are extremely proud of the men and women who have built and grown this business throughout the years and thankful for their many contributions. And we're pleased that many of them will continue to service this channel as they transition to BFG. Speaker 200:15:41This sale aligns to our strategy to be a more focused, higher margin, branded consumer products company And it's just one of many projects on our journey. Now before I turn the call over to Niko, let me say a few words about our outlook for the remainder of the year. The 4th quarter is off to a good start, and we expect our focus on cost and cash to continue to yield benefits. This gives us confidence in delivering fiscal year 2023 non GAAP EPS of $2.55 or better. So to summarize, we remain confident In the competitive strength of central and our central to home strategy, our record Q3 results underscore Our team's ability to execute and navigate in challenging times and we remain bullish on the fundamental trends that support long term pet and garden industry growth. Speaker 200:16:46And with that, let me turn it over to Niko, who will share more details of our Q3 results. Niko? Speaker 300:16:54Thank you, Tim. Good afternoon, everyone. Building on Tim's remarks, I'll share with you details of our record Q3 results for fiscal 2023. Net sales increased 1% to $1,023,000,000 with the largest contributions coming from dog and cat, live goods and packet seeds. Non GAAP gross profit reached $326,000,000 an increase of 6% and non GAAP gross margin expanded by 160 basis points to 31.9 percent driven by both segments due to pricing actions and cost management initiatives offsetting commodity inflation. Speaker 300:17:33Non GAAP SG and A expense was $189,000,000 compared to $194,000,000 in the prior year. And as a percentage of net sales decreased 60 basis points to 18.5%. In Q3, we incurred $14,000,000 of one time charges related to the closure of our pet bedding facility in Texas, the majority of which were non cash. These charges include severance, liquidation of inventory and related intangibles. We expect an annual benefit of $4,000,000 to $6,000,000 from our streamlined Pet Bed operations. Speaker 300:18:17Non GAAP operating income increased by 20% or $23,000,000 to a record $137,000,000 and a non GAAP operating margin increased by 220 basis points to 13.4 percent driven by our pricing actions, productivity efforts and lower commercial spend. Net interest expense of $13,000,000 was $1,000,000 below the prior year quarter. Non GAAP net income increased by $18,000,000 to $94,000,000 Our non GAAP earnings per share grew $0.36 to an all time high of $1.75 from $1.39 in the prior year quarter. GAAP EPS was $1.56 and adjusted EBITDA increased to $166,000,000 up from $141,000,000 and a higher impact of non deductible executive compensation versus a year ago. Turning now to the segments, starting with Pet. Speaker 300:19:25Pet segment sales of $503,000,000 were essentially in line with our prior year. Our dog and cat treat and toys As well as our wild bird businesses performed strong, offsetting lower sales in our durable pet products across several categories, Big fish tanks, small animal enclosures and pet beds, as well as weather related softness in our outdoor cushions. Non GAAP Pet segment operating income increased 18% to $74,000,000 Non Pet operating margin expanded by 230 basis points to 14.7 percent, thanks to our pricing actions and cost management initiatives. Pet segment adjusted EBITDA was $84,000,000 compared to $72,000,000 a year ago. Now let's switch to Garden. Speaker 300:20:13Our Garden segment had a great 3rd quarter with sales growing 2% to $520,000,000 driven by our live plants, packet seed and wild bird businesses, Offsetting lower sales in distribution and grass seed, Garden segment operating income increased 17% to $88,000,000 and Garden segment operating margin expanded by 2 10 basis points to 16.9 percent driven by improved pricing, favorable product mix and our focus on cost. Garden segment adjusted EBITDA grew to $99,000,000 from $85,000,000 a year ago. Now moving to the balance sheet and cash flows. Cash and cash equivalents at the end of the 3rd quarter increased $137,000,000 to $333,000,000 Thanks to our financial discipline and our focus on turning inventory into cash, Net cash provided by operations was $325,000,000 for the quarter compared to $190,000,000 a year ago. This is a record for Central. Speaker 300:21:13For Pet and Total Company, our inventory is down, while for Garden, it is up in dollar value and flat in units. Additionally, the spread versus prior year has narrowed significantly, so we're clearly trending in the right direction. CapEx was $11,000,000 for the quarter, 54% below prior year. This quarter, we invested in automation and expansion of our live plants, Dog and cat, small animal in our outdoor cushion businesses. Total debt of $1,200,000,000 was in line with the prior year. Speaker 300:21:47Our gross leverage ratio was 3.1x at the end of the quarter compared to 2.9x a year ago, well within our target range of 3x to 3.5x. We had no borrowings under our credit facility at the end of the 3rd quarter. Depreciation and amortization for the quarter was $22,000,000 compared to $20,000,000 in the prior year quarter, primarily driven by higher depreciation due to our recent investments in capacity expansion across our businesses. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 466,000 shares or $16,700,000 of our stock. And finally, turning to our fiscal 'twenty three outlook. Speaker 300:22:26As we've previously said, this fiscal, we've tightened our belts. And as we've demonstrated this quarter, our teams are working hard on converting inventory into cash. In addition, we are advancing our cost and simplicity program in both organic growth and M and A and to support our long term algorithm. And as Tim said, we will share more details on our Q4 earnings call in November. We are now planning for CapEx in the range of $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 much less than the prior year, the majority of which is carryover and required maintenance. Speaker 300:23:09Thanks to our strong financial position with more than $330,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet at quarter end And an unused $750,000,000 credit facility, we remain on the lookout for great growth in margin accretive companies in both Pet and Garden. We expect a tax rate of approximately 24% for the year. Given our Q3 record performance and early visibility we have in the 4th quarter, We are raising our outlook and now expect non GAAP EPS for the year to be $2.55 or better. This implies delivering modest EPS in the 4th quarter. Our guidance reflects our belief in the competitive strength of Central and the long term trends supporting growth in the pet and garden industries. Speaker 300:23:54Fiscal 2023 will have 53 weeks compared to 52 weeks in fiscal 2022. As always, this outlook excludes any impact from potential acquisitions, divestitures or restructuring activities undertaken during the year. And with that, we'd like to open the line for questions. Operator00:24:52Our first question comes from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:24:59Thanks. Good afternoon. Speaker 200:25:01Hey, Bill. Speaker 500:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 600:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 700:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 400:25:03Hey, just wanted to 0 in a little bit on the exit of Part of the distribution business, maybe and I just I assume it will happen At fiscal year end and so it's not in this year's numbers, any kind of idea, I guess, trying to understand how it works of Still distributing for 3 large retailers, but I guess at a different warehouses to the other ones. And then, would you look to do anything like this on the Pet side going forward? Speaker 800:25:38Hi, Bill, it's JD. Thanks for the question. The distribution business that we are exiting It's the distribution business to the independent garden center channel, which, first of all, it's a big move for us. This is a business that we've been in since the Since Central was founded in 1980. So it's a business that we know well and it's near and dear to our heart, but I think this is us acknowledging that it's Far too complex and this will allow us to focus on our core competencies. Speaker 800:26:08The independent garden channel that we're talking about here, this is your nurseries, Garden centers across the country, 6,000 stores altogether, 4,000 roughly 4,000 customers, 4,500 SKUs altogether and just a complex business and it represents 5% less than 5% of the overall Garden business. We will continue to distribute to the big three, as Tim said in his script, and some other select national accounts. The SKU count to those larger customers is actually much smaller and the volume is much higher. We will continue To distribute out of those same distribution centers, we mentioned in the script also that we are exiting 1 of our distribution centers. We'll continue to distribute for the big three out of the existing distribution centers. Speaker 800:27:04So that won't change. The sale is effective immediately. So we signed that deal this week and we will be in a transitional services agreement with The acquiring company for the next several months until they start to service and fulfill from their own distribution centers. Speaker 200:27:22And Bill, this is Tim. I'll build on everything J. D. Said. Look, I think this is, first of all, a real win win deal For both Central and for BFG, BFG is a great partner and distributor and they've been in this space a long time. Speaker 200:27:37Really, this is about playing to each company's strengths. And that's what BFG is. They are a distributor, A full line distributor, that's what they do and they do it well. For us, this obviously represents, Bill, another important step in our cost and simplicity program towards simplifying our company, towards shifting our portfolio to Higher margin branded consumer products. It's also an accelerant for our supply chain and network optimization program. Speaker 200:28:11And As you heard me say in the prepared remarks, one of the immediate consequences is we will close another facility in Portland, Oregon. So it's a nice move for us. It's also a nice move for BFG, obviously. So we're quite pleased with that. And I think a strong indication of our And our commitment to continue to evolve this portfolio in favor of our strengths, which is Consumer products, great brands and great margins. Speaker 200:28:41With regard to the second half of your question in terms of any read across per pet, Our Pet distribution business is very different than the portion of Garden that we sold. It's a larger business, More profitable business than the business we sold. And as we sit today with that business, we continue to be happy with it. At the same time, Bill, we're going to continue to kick the tires on our Looking for opportunities for optimization in line with our long term strategy to build value. Speaker 400:29:13Got it. And then just one more on Garden. I think that I know Scott said this morning that they felt like POS for the category was up kind of mid single digits for the year and they also talked about Some weakness in grass seed. I just wanted to kind of compare notes of what you were seeing and if maybe it seemed like your grass seed business Gainshare, and so maybe that was just the offset, but any kind of color around that would be great. Speaker 800:29:46Sure. J. D. Again here, Bill. You were right. Speaker 800:29:50Grassy gained share for the first half of the year, and in Q3, we held share. So overall, for Fiscal year 'twenty three, we took share in the category. The in terms of overall POS, We're in the same range, mid single digits for the full year. Speaker 400:30:10Great. Thank you. Operator00:30:15Our next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:30:23Hi, good afternoon and nice quarter here. Thanks, Brett. My first question was just going to be around the gross margin. As I go back in our model and look at the past decade, the Q3 gross margin here really coming in at one of the strongest levels Yes, in history. And so hoping you could just add a little bit more context to where pricing is today versus how much of this is mix versus some of the productivity initiatives that you have in place and how you're thinking about gross margin going forward? Speaker 900:30:56Thanks. Speaker 300:30:57Yes, Brad. So the majority of it was pricing. Units continue to still be down. But again, Our cost savings initiatives have played out as well. If you look at we've been laser focused on cost and cash as Tim and I I have mentioned the last few quarters and then you hit the nail on the head. Speaker 300:31:19The last piece of it was favorable mix that helped our margins there. Going forward, and I've said this a bit like a broken record, we're always looking to expand margins. So we are very focused on it and We're going to continue to drive that going forward. So look for more to come. Speaker 900:31:41That's great. Thanks. And then just to follow-up on kind of the question, Bill's question earlier talking about sort of volume trends. I guess, we're seeing some green shoots, if you will, in many home related areas It had tough pandemic comparisons. And I guess I was hoping you could just talk a little bit more about maybe your optimism that we're Speaker 200:32:12Yes, Brad. Look, no doubt about it. These last couple of years, we saw, I'd say, 3 dynamics, the third being on Guardant, meaning, 1, you had kind of a post COVID consumer behavioral shift going on. 2, you had really unprecedented Inflation back to back 2 consecutive years, which of course we matched with pricing in order to protect our margins and still deliver value to our consumers. And then certainly on the Garden side, we've had a couple of years of less than optimal weather. Speaker 200:32:49And so all that has put pressure on unit takeaway. I think as you'll start to look forward, you see that inflationary cost envelope getting more and more benign. So this year, the inflation still hit us and we had to price and we priced kind of mid single digits across the enterprise, Obviously, category by category it differed. And we saw a corresponding decay in volume, kind of mid single digits. We're now at a point where we're seeing that cost inflationary pressure begin to mitigate. Speaker 200:33:27And so that sets up a different dynamic next year really in all three of those variables. One is I think a lot of that post COVID consumer behavior Starts to roll off and we can get to a little bit more normal as opposed to an unfavorable situation versus during COVID. 2, I mean, who knows on the weather, but it's hard to think 3 years in a row of rough weather. And then I think you're not going to have as much price elasticity going on. The one other call out on our business is on the Pet side and it's related to durables versus consumables. Speaker 200:33:59Durables, as you know, are most closely aligned with Pet ownership and adoption. And here we did we are seeing and I said at my prepared remarks, more downward pressure In the teens, on the durables, again, think fish tanks, small animal closures, pet pads, etcetera. I think that probably still hangs with us through the Half of 24, given pet ownership dynamics. But with the exception of that, I think we get Speaker 900:34:35That's very helpful. Thanks so much, Tim. Speaker 500:34:40Our next question Speaker 1000:34:52Where do you feel like you are in terms of your inventory destocking at retail for both businesses? Speaker 800:35:00You want to go? Sure. I'll jump in first. It's JD, Jim, and then I'll turn it over to John. We've seen significant destocking over the course of the year in a few different ways. Speaker 800:35:12One, they the retailers devoted less space For off shelf displays this year, they also were seeing a difference in the way they stopped the stores at the beginning of the year, Their initial orders and then also on replenishment, they moved to more of a just in time type replenishment model, which was the first So we were adjusting on the fly during the course of the year. But now our units our in store inventories, the units are down versus prior year, Down high single digits, let's call it. So we feel like now that the correction has taken place We're in a good position going into fiscal 'twenty four. John? Yes. Speaker 800:35:55For Pet on the Pet If you go back to Q1, I would say destocking Speaker 1100:36:02was It did happen. As we got through Q2, I think we still saw some. Q3 were normalized, I would say, so we feel really good about where retail inventories are on the Pet side as we come out of Q3 and throughout Q3. Speaker 300:36:21Yes. And I would just add, our own inventories are down, total company about 2%. Garden is up 7.6 percent but flat in units. So we still see some inflationary pressure within our cost. And then Pet was down like 13% year over year. Speaker 300:36:42So we're working ours down as well and I feel like it's really headed in the right direction, Jim. Speaker 1000:36:50Great. Speaker 500:36:50And so just Speaker 1000:36:54so it seems like there's Like a 7%, 8% difference between Guard and POS and your shipments, right? And so as we kind of lap that next year, Do you feel like that becomes a tailwind where POS is positive, but you're lapping Shipments that were lower because of the destocking and so is there kind of a mid single digit tailwind to sales in those businesses next year? Shipments and POS are more aligned. Speaker 800:37:24So Jim, I don't have a crystal ball, so that one would be tough to predict what the Looks like that. I will say this, you're absolutely right. There is a, I'd call it, a 6% to 7% gap between POS And shipments. So you're right about that. We've seen destocking. Speaker 800:37:42We think we're in good position going into next year. But in terms of Projecting that as a tailwind, Speaker 200:37:49I'll stop short of Speaker 500:37:49that. Okay. Speaker 1000:37:52And then just Nico, you guys mentioned $330,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet, how are you thinking about kind of the pace of share repurchases going forward? And then what's kind of a good interest rate to use on the cash balance? Speaker 300:38:08Yes. So we're going to be Continue to be pretty opportunistic on share repurchase. We'll meet with our Board next week and probably discuss Where and how much we want to buy, we have a matrix that we submit during the open trading period. And then as far as the cash goes, we're earning in that 4%, 4.5% Speaker 1000:38:35Range Speaker 300:38:37in terms of our investments there. So I would use 4, 4.5. Speaker 1000:38:41Great. Thank you. Speaker 500:38:46Our next question comes from Operator00:38:47the line of Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:38:53Hi. This is Shavana Chaudhry on for Andrea. How are you? Speaker 200:38:58Good. Doing well. Speaker 700:39:01Congrats on the good quarter. Very quickly, a couple of questions. Your top line trends, now that we're Setting garden season seems like you are passing on the beat in the quarter. And but then again, it seems at the same time, The pet category has been decelerating a little bit. So if you could just give us more color on that? Speaker 700:39:25And secondly, I just wanted to clarify something. Your fiscal 'twenty three guidance now of EPS, non GAAP EPS of $2.55 Can you give us what the GAAP EPS version would be? Because previously you've mentioned us $2.35 for the GAAP EPS, Just to bridge the 2. Thank you. Speaker 300:39:49Okay. So Well, I'll start with the $235,000,000 is actually non GAAP as well. So that matches up with the 2.50 Right. Yes, dollars 0.20 raise. And that was largely because when you look at our first half, We were behind prior year about $0.74 and we felt it was the right thing to do to guide down because the first half of the year It was a real challenge. Speaker 300:40:20The 3rd quarter has ended up being a record. We've seen a nice extension In terms of weather and the Garden season has sort of played out late because the weather stayed mild. So we had that play out well. But the $255,000,000 is apples to apples with the $235,000,000 Speaker 700:40:42Thanks for clarifying that. Speaker 1100:40:44Yes. In PET, the headwind that we're facing is durables, right? And if you think about the category, it's 75% Durables was down double digits. If you think about Central, our business is more eightytwenty, think about it. We're actually 82% in the light latest quarter, but think eightytwenty. Speaker 1100:41:16Our consumables were up mid And our durables were down high single digits, right? And that's a headwind for the category and it Ties to the overlap in pet adoption, I think inflation plays a little bit of a role in that Some of these items are discretionary spend. But as we look forward, it certainly is a near term headwind. But I think as we get through the first half, we feel much better about the category and we also feel very good about the long term projections Operator00:42:03Our next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:42:09Hi. I just have a couple. So to make sure I understand this, the business that you're exiting of the independent garden Retailers, that will be 5% of The Garden sales that are going away, but essentially that wasn't really profitable. So maybe you It's additive to your EBITDA, is that right? Speaker 800:42:32Yes, that's right. I would say it was profit challenged Segment of the business. I'd say that that's fairly accurate. Speaker 600:42:40Okay. And then With the exit of this relationship or the transition, were there proceeds from the buyer or Speaker 200:42:56Closing the sale price, there was a sale price. What we can say is, I think, A fair and good win win proposition for both sides. And as you noted and J. D. Confirmed, this This is the business from a sales side, less than 5% of total Garden and de minimis on the operating margin side. Speaker 600:43:23Okay. And then, when you were discussing the outlook for hard goods on the Pet side, you kind of said that I think that it could be a couple more quarters of weakness. Is that more based upon weakness at POS or is it more that you think your shipments are going to be weak because inventory levels remain high in those categories? Speaker 1100:43:46It's more POS and syndicated Key to data that we get, our inventory levels, we've made a ton of progress on inventory levels and continue to make progress on the need to make progress on the Pet side. Speaker 200:43:58Yes, really, John said it absolutely right. What I'd point to is really the underlying consumer fundamentals Supporting that unfavorable trend, right? So we have seen off the COVID highs of 2020 2021, we've seen pet ownership drop down A couple of points. And these hard goods are most correlated with that. And so you've just got a built in tailwind. Speaker 200:44:25We've seen this in the past in other recessions in Times Square Pet Ownership Dips. There tends to be 4 to 6 quarter lag on or impact on the durable side, and we're just cycling through that. So it is more of a POS thing Fueled by that underlying consumer behavior, we don't have a complete crystal ball, but I would think By the middle of next year, we've worked through that. Speaker 600:44:53Okay. But I guess inventory levels at retail in those categories of your products, They are not out of line. They're kind of okay at this point. So your selling That's Speaker 400:45:04correct. That's correct. Speaker 600:45:06All right. That's all for me. Thank you. Speaker 100:45:08Thanks. Speaker 500:45:10Our next question comes from Operator00:45:11the line of Hale Holden with Barclays. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:45:17Good afternoon. I just had two questions. The first one was related to a comment you made around Some of the Garden sales moving online this season. I was wondering what categories that was? And the second one is, if you could just give us sort of updated thoughts around what the M and A environment looks like? Speaker 800:45:36Sure. This is J. D. I'll take the first part of that question around e commerce. So Overall, e commerce continues to grow in Garden. Speaker 800:45:45It's growing at a faster rate than our bricks and mortar business. It's still overall A relatively small percentage of our business, but growing 5% and growing. But quarter to quarter, that business is growing at Plus 20% each quarter. So it's one of the fastest growing segments, the fastest growing segment. You ask which SKUs, which products, It's really across our entire portfolio. Speaker 800:46:10We're finding that the consumer, especially during the pandemic, some consumers started to shop online and we're seeing that Become very sticky and they're continuing to do that post pandemic. 2nd part of the question? Speaker 300:46:22Yes, I can take that. This is Nikko, yes, as far as M and A, it's been slow the last few quarters. We're seeing a little bit of a pickup. And I think it's also reflected in the public markets, you're starting to see a little bit more IPO activity. But it's still much slower And we're going to look for the right deals to do and we'll just continue to accumulate cash on our balance sheet to get those deals done. Speaker 100:47:06And this was our last question. Thanks everyone for joining our call today. The IR team is available for any follow-up questions you may have. Operator00:47:20Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderfulRead morePowered by Key Takeaways Central delivered record operating income and all-time high EPS of $1.75 in Q3 on 1% net sales growth, while expanding gross margin by 160 basis points and ending with $333 million of cash. The company accelerated its cost and simplicity program by closing the Texas pet-bed facility and selling its independent garden center distribution business, with further projects in procurement, logistics, manufacturing and portfolio optimization planned. Central raised its full-year non-GAAP EPS guidance to $2.55 or better, citing strong Q3 momentum, better cash conversion (record $325 million net cash from operations) and ongoing cost discipline. In Pet, consumables grew mid single-digits (with e-commerce up double-digits to 25% of sales), while durables declined in the teens amid a post-COVID pet-ownership normalization. Inventory levels improved significantly—Pet inventory down double-digits and Garden flat in units—with the focus on turning inventory into cash driving a >$300 million increase on the balance sheet. AI Generated. 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Email Address About Central Garden & PetCentral Garden & Pet (NASDAQ:CENT) Co. engages in the production and distribution of branded and private label products for the lawn, garden, and pet supplies markets. It operates through the Pet and Garden segments. The Pet segment focuses on dog and cat supplies such as dog treats and chews, toys, pet beds and containment, grooming products, waste management and training pads, supplies for aquatics, small animals, reptiles and pet birds including toys, cages and habitats, bedding, food and supplements, products for equine and livestock, animal and household health and insect control products, live fish, and small animals, as well as outdoor cushions. The Garden segment includes lawn and garden consumables such as grass, vegetable, flower and herb seed, wild bird feed, bird houses and other birding accessories, weed, grass, and other herbicides, insecticide and pesticide products, fertilizers, and live plants. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:02Welcome to the Central Garden and Pet Third Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Doug, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. Operator00:00:27As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Frederic Edelman, with Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. With me on the call today are Tim Colfer, Chief Executive Officer Nikolas Ahanas, Chief Financial Officer JD Walker, President, Garden Consumer Products and John Hansen, President, Pet Consumer Products. As usual, Tim will provide a business update and Nico will discuss results for our Q3 ended June 24, 2023 in more detail. Speaker 100:01:06After the prepared remarks, JD and John will join us for the Q and A. Our press release and related materials are available at ir. Unless otherwise stated, all gross comparisons made during this call are against the same period in the prior year. Before I turn the call over to Tim, I would like to remind you that statements made during this call, which are not historical facts, Including earnings per share and other guidance for fiscal 'twenty three, expectations for new capital investments, product launches and future acquisitions are forward looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied by forward looking statements. These risks and others are described in Central's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Including our annual report on Form 10 ks filed on November 22, 2022, Central undertakes no obligation to publicly update these forward Speaker 200:02:22Thank you, Frederica, and good afternoon, everyone. As we exit our fiscal third quarter, We're in a fundamentally improved position versus last quarter. Our main focus all year long has been on cost and cash, And the strength of our 3rd quarter performance underscores the good progress our team has made in these areas. We're pleased with our record results and the momentum we're building on our multiyear cost and simplicity program. With that, let me start the call with 3 key messages. Speaker 200:03:00First, our quarterly performance. Thanks to our financial discipline and the strong execution by Team Central, we delivered record Operating income and earnings per share in Q3, while expanding gross margin, growing market share and significantly improving our cash position. I want to thank our 7,000 associates for their hard work driving this record performance. Our Garden business, which had a challenging start to the season earlier in the year, Improved in the Q3 with top line growth, gross margin expansion and continued market share gains. The strong Garden performance coupled with the ongoing strength in Pet driven by our consumables brands and our short term actions to cut controllable costs are the key drivers of our 3rd quarter results. Speaker 200:04:01Specifically, Our net sales grew 1%. Our non GAAP gross margin improved by 160 basis points And non GAAP operating income increased by 20% to $137,000,000 translating into a non GAAP earnings per share of $1.75 Our operating income and EPS for the quarter are both all time highs, both on a GAAP and non GAAP basis. And importantly, our focus to turn inventory into cash is starting to pay off as demonstrated by more than $300,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet at quarter end. The second key message relates to the progress we're making on our cost and simplicity program. As we've shared on prior calls, we've embarked on a journey to simplify our business and improve our efficiency across the organization by rationalizing our footprint, Streamlining our portfolio and improving our cost structure. Speaker 200:05:12Today, we will update you on the successful closure of our private label pet bed facility we announced last quarter. In addition, we will share details about another Important project supporting our cost and simplicity program. We just announced the sale of our independent garden center distribution business. This sale significantly simplifies our garden business and improves margins, while we continue to serve our top 3 Garden retail partners and select other national accounts. We're building a pipeline of projects to reduce cost and simplify our business, focused on a number of key areas, including procurement, logistics, manufacturing, portfolio optimization and administrative costs. Speaker 200:06:05And we'll share more about our plans for fiscal 'twenty four in our November earnings call. And finally, our guidance for the balance of the year. When we updated the market in May, we took a prudent approach to guidance, given the poor start to the Garden season, driven by weather and retailer inventory dynamics. We were cautiously optimistic that Garden could improve in Q3 and indeed our teams delivered. While favorable weather was hit and miss during the last few months, we navigated the quarter well across both segments. Speaker 200:06:46Taking our record Q3 performance into account, coupled with the early visibility we have into the 4th quarter, We're raising our fiscal year non GAAP EPS guidance to $2.55 or better. This implies delivering modest Q4 EPS in what is typically a small quarter, albeit this year benefiting from the 53rd week. Now let's look at the quarter from a segment perspective, starting with Pet. Overall, we're pleased with our gross margin, operating and market share performance. Sales continued to grow in our pet consumables business across all categories, including dog and cat, bird, small animal and equine. Speaker 200:07:35Offsetting the mid single digit increase in pet consumables, We saw ongoing downward pressure on Pet Durables with declines versus prior years in the teens. This aligns with the softness the overall industry has experienced in enclosures and other durable supplies, driven by the slowdown in pet ownership affecting most species after the COVID spike. Thanks to our continued work over the last couple of years to build capabilities around consumer insights, brand marketing, innovation and category management, we took market share in many of our key categories, including dog toys and treats, bird, small animal and equine. E commerce remains the growth driver for the category at the expense of Pet Specialty. Our efforts to lean into online and digital are paying off As demonstrated by a double digit increase of our e commerce sales, which now represent 25% of total Pet sales. Speaker 200:08:39And given our investments in digital marketing excellence and the talent of our e commerce teams, we once again grew online market share broadly across many of our categories, including dog treats and toys, equine, flea and ticks, small animal and bird. Total pet ownership is down slightly versus the COVID peak in 2020. Pet parents are more engaged than ever in their pets lives. Pet parents stated that spending on their pets is the least likely of all spend categories to be reduced over the next 12 months, underscoring the resilience of the category even in a recessionary environment. All of these dynamics contributed to POS growth in the low single digits and helped to normalize the inventory dynamics across Moving now to our Garden segment. Speaker 200:09:57Following a challenging start to the season, we're pleased with the achievements of our Garden business in the Q3, growing versus prior year on all key financial metrics, including net sales, gross margin and operating income. We also continued to grow market share in wild bird and held share in grass seed and the overall garden category. Our teams executed well And we saw strong performance, particularly in May early June when the weather was more favorable. Live goods, packet seeds and wild bird were the primary drivers for the sales growth. Retailers continue to reduce their inventory and are Shifting to just in time replenishment as demonstrated by stronger POS than net sales. Speaker 200:10:46In addition, Certain retail partners decreased their lawn and garden off shelf display activity for the season. Foot traffic across home centers and mass channel remains below prior year, although improving over Q2. Garden e commerce sales are growing faster than brick and mortar as consumers shift more and more of their purchasing to online. While still small, our e commerce business increased more than 20% and now represents over 5 percent of total Garden sales, thanks to strong improvement in our retail media efforts, expanded assortment, winning content and enhanced Ship to home options across our top three customers. Turning now to our cost and simplicity program. Speaker 200:11:43Let me briefly recap. We're on a multiyear journey to reduce cost and simplify how we operate. We have a meaningful opportunity to better leverage the scale of our business. We're building a pipeline of projects across a number of key areas, including procurement, manufacturing, logistics, portfolio optimization and administrative costs. We expect to reduce complexity, which means fewer SKUs and fewer facilities. Speaker 200:12:17We seek to lower cost of goods sold through lower logistics costs and better procurement, lower administrative costs by leveraging our scale And we plan to shift more of our focus to our branded pet and garden consumer products. We believe the result Of these efforts, we'll drive higher margins and generate more fuel to invest in organic growth and advantageous M and A supporting our long term financial algorithm. In our Q2 call, we shared the first project of our cost and simplicity journey, The closure of a manufacturing and distribution facility in Athens, Texas. Our teams executed on plan The Athens production facility is now closed. The warehouse is empty and has been returned to the landlord. Speaker 200:13:13Pet Bed Manufacturing has ramped up and we're now shipping all customers from our Arden facilities. The entire team has done an amazing job managing the elements of this transition. We expect this project to deliver a cash on cash payback in less than 2 years and drive a step up in operating income for our more streamlined pet bed business. And as I mentioned earlier, today we're pleased to share yet another example of our cost and simplicity program in action. Just yesterday, we closed the sale of our independent garden center distribution business to BFG Supply, a leading national garden distributor specializing in the independent garden channel and regional chains. Speaker 200:14:06The independent garden center channel is highly complex to serve. With 4,500 SKUs, 4,400 customers and over 6,000 stores. This channel represented less than 5% of our Garden net sales and was dilutive to our Garden operating income margin. Going forward, BFG We'll distribute our branded garden products to the independent garden center channel. This partnership will allow Both companies to focus on their core strengths. Speaker 200:14:46While we're exiting the fragmented independent garden center channel, We will retain our 3rd party distribution business with our largest 3 retail partners and select other national accounts. This is an important step to meaningfully simplify our Garden business as it enables us to accelerate our cost and simplicity program and optimize our customer service footprint. As a consequence of this sale, we also intend to Close our Portland, Oregon garden distribution facility by the end of this calendar year. We are extremely proud of the men and women who have built and grown this business throughout the years and thankful for their many contributions. And we're pleased that many of them will continue to service this channel as they transition to BFG. Speaker 200:15:41This sale aligns to our strategy to be a more focused, higher margin, branded consumer products company And it's just one of many projects on our journey. Now before I turn the call over to Niko, let me say a few words about our outlook for the remainder of the year. The 4th quarter is off to a good start, and we expect our focus on cost and cash to continue to yield benefits. This gives us confidence in delivering fiscal year 2023 non GAAP EPS of $2.55 or better. So to summarize, we remain confident In the competitive strength of central and our central to home strategy, our record Q3 results underscore Our team's ability to execute and navigate in challenging times and we remain bullish on the fundamental trends that support long term pet and garden industry growth. Speaker 200:16:46And with that, let me turn it over to Niko, who will share more details of our Q3 results. Niko? Speaker 300:16:54Thank you, Tim. Good afternoon, everyone. Building on Tim's remarks, I'll share with you details of our record Q3 results for fiscal 2023. Net sales increased 1% to $1,023,000,000 with the largest contributions coming from dog and cat, live goods and packet seeds. Non GAAP gross profit reached $326,000,000 an increase of 6% and non GAAP gross margin expanded by 160 basis points to 31.9 percent driven by both segments due to pricing actions and cost management initiatives offsetting commodity inflation. Speaker 300:17:33Non GAAP SG and A expense was $189,000,000 compared to $194,000,000 in the prior year. And as a percentage of net sales decreased 60 basis points to 18.5%. In Q3, we incurred $14,000,000 of one time charges related to the closure of our pet bedding facility in Texas, the majority of which were non cash. These charges include severance, liquidation of inventory and related intangibles. We expect an annual benefit of $4,000,000 to $6,000,000 from our streamlined Pet Bed operations. Speaker 300:18:17Non GAAP operating income increased by 20% or $23,000,000 to a record $137,000,000 and a non GAAP operating margin increased by 220 basis points to 13.4 percent driven by our pricing actions, productivity efforts and lower commercial spend. Net interest expense of $13,000,000 was $1,000,000 below the prior year quarter. Non GAAP net income increased by $18,000,000 to $94,000,000 Our non GAAP earnings per share grew $0.36 to an all time high of $1.75 from $1.39 in the prior year quarter. GAAP EPS was $1.56 and adjusted EBITDA increased to $166,000,000 up from $141,000,000 and a higher impact of non deductible executive compensation versus a year ago. Turning now to the segments, starting with Pet. Speaker 300:19:25Pet segment sales of $503,000,000 were essentially in line with our prior year. Our dog and cat treat and toys As well as our wild bird businesses performed strong, offsetting lower sales in our durable pet products across several categories, Big fish tanks, small animal enclosures and pet beds, as well as weather related softness in our outdoor cushions. Non GAAP Pet segment operating income increased 18% to $74,000,000 Non Pet operating margin expanded by 230 basis points to 14.7 percent, thanks to our pricing actions and cost management initiatives. Pet segment adjusted EBITDA was $84,000,000 compared to $72,000,000 a year ago. Now let's switch to Garden. Speaker 300:20:13Our Garden segment had a great 3rd quarter with sales growing 2% to $520,000,000 driven by our live plants, packet seed and wild bird businesses, Offsetting lower sales in distribution and grass seed, Garden segment operating income increased 17% to $88,000,000 and Garden segment operating margin expanded by 2 10 basis points to 16.9 percent driven by improved pricing, favorable product mix and our focus on cost. Garden segment adjusted EBITDA grew to $99,000,000 from $85,000,000 a year ago. Now moving to the balance sheet and cash flows. Cash and cash equivalents at the end of the 3rd quarter increased $137,000,000 to $333,000,000 Thanks to our financial discipline and our focus on turning inventory into cash, Net cash provided by operations was $325,000,000 for the quarter compared to $190,000,000 a year ago. This is a record for Central. Speaker 300:21:13For Pet and Total Company, our inventory is down, while for Garden, it is up in dollar value and flat in units. Additionally, the spread versus prior year has narrowed significantly, so we're clearly trending in the right direction. CapEx was $11,000,000 for the quarter, 54% below prior year. This quarter, we invested in automation and expansion of our live plants, Dog and cat, small animal in our outdoor cushion businesses. Total debt of $1,200,000,000 was in line with the prior year. Speaker 300:21:47Our gross leverage ratio was 3.1x at the end of the quarter compared to 2.9x a year ago, well within our target range of 3x to 3.5x. We had no borrowings under our credit facility at the end of the 3rd quarter. Depreciation and amortization for the quarter was $22,000,000 compared to $20,000,000 in the prior year quarter, primarily driven by higher depreciation due to our recent investments in capacity expansion across our businesses. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 466,000 shares or $16,700,000 of our stock. And finally, turning to our fiscal 'twenty three outlook. Speaker 300:22:26As we've previously said, this fiscal, we've tightened our belts. And as we've demonstrated this quarter, our teams are working hard on converting inventory into cash. In addition, we are advancing our cost and simplicity program in both organic growth and M and A and to support our long term algorithm. And as Tim said, we will share more details on our Q4 earnings call in November. We are now planning for CapEx in the range of $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 much less than the prior year, the majority of which is carryover and required maintenance. Speaker 300:23:09Thanks to our strong financial position with more than $330,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet at quarter end And an unused $750,000,000 credit facility, we remain on the lookout for great growth in margin accretive companies in both Pet and Garden. We expect a tax rate of approximately 24% for the year. Given our Q3 record performance and early visibility we have in the 4th quarter, We are raising our outlook and now expect non GAAP EPS for the year to be $2.55 or better. This implies delivering modest EPS in the 4th quarter. Our guidance reflects our belief in the competitive strength of Central and the long term trends supporting growth in the pet and garden industries. Speaker 300:23:54Fiscal 2023 will have 53 weeks compared to 52 weeks in fiscal 2022. As always, this outlook excludes any impact from potential acquisitions, divestitures or restructuring activities undertaken during the year. And with that, we'd like to open the line for questions. Operator00:24:52Our first question comes from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:24:59Thanks. Good afternoon. Speaker 200:25:01Hey, Bill. Speaker 500:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 600:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 700:25:02Hey, Bill. Speaker 400:25:03Hey, just wanted to 0 in a little bit on the exit of Part of the distribution business, maybe and I just I assume it will happen At fiscal year end and so it's not in this year's numbers, any kind of idea, I guess, trying to understand how it works of Still distributing for 3 large retailers, but I guess at a different warehouses to the other ones. And then, would you look to do anything like this on the Pet side going forward? Speaker 800:25:38Hi, Bill, it's JD. Thanks for the question. The distribution business that we are exiting It's the distribution business to the independent garden center channel, which, first of all, it's a big move for us. This is a business that we've been in since the Since Central was founded in 1980. So it's a business that we know well and it's near and dear to our heart, but I think this is us acknowledging that it's Far too complex and this will allow us to focus on our core competencies. Speaker 800:26:08The independent garden channel that we're talking about here, this is your nurseries, Garden centers across the country, 6,000 stores altogether, 4,000 roughly 4,000 customers, 4,500 SKUs altogether and just a complex business and it represents 5% less than 5% of the overall Garden business. We will continue to distribute to the big three, as Tim said in his script, and some other select national accounts. The SKU count to those larger customers is actually much smaller and the volume is much higher. We will continue To distribute out of those same distribution centers, we mentioned in the script also that we are exiting 1 of our distribution centers. We'll continue to distribute for the big three out of the existing distribution centers. Speaker 800:27:04So that won't change. The sale is effective immediately. So we signed that deal this week and we will be in a transitional services agreement with The acquiring company for the next several months until they start to service and fulfill from their own distribution centers. Speaker 200:27:22And Bill, this is Tim. I'll build on everything J. D. Said. Look, I think this is, first of all, a real win win deal For both Central and for BFG, BFG is a great partner and distributor and they've been in this space a long time. Speaker 200:27:37Really, this is about playing to each company's strengths. And that's what BFG is. They are a distributor, A full line distributor, that's what they do and they do it well. For us, this obviously represents, Bill, another important step in our cost and simplicity program towards simplifying our company, towards shifting our portfolio to Higher margin branded consumer products. It's also an accelerant for our supply chain and network optimization program. Speaker 200:28:11And As you heard me say in the prepared remarks, one of the immediate consequences is we will close another facility in Portland, Oregon. So it's a nice move for us. It's also a nice move for BFG, obviously. So we're quite pleased with that. And I think a strong indication of our And our commitment to continue to evolve this portfolio in favor of our strengths, which is Consumer products, great brands and great margins. Speaker 200:28:41With regard to the second half of your question in terms of any read across per pet, Our Pet distribution business is very different than the portion of Garden that we sold. It's a larger business, More profitable business than the business we sold. And as we sit today with that business, we continue to be happy with it. At the same time, Bill, we're going to continue to kick the tires on our Looking for opportunities for optimization in line with our long term strategy to build value. Speaker 400:29:13Got it. And then just one more on Garden. I think that I know Scott said this morning that they felt like POS for the category was up kind of mid single digits for the year and they also talked about Some weakness in grass seed. I just wanted to kind of compare notes of what you were seeing and if maybe it seemed like your grass seed business Gainshare, and so maybe that was just the offset, but any kind of color around that would be great. Speaker 800:29:46Sure. J. D. Again here, Bill. You were right. Speaker 800:29:50Grassy gained share for the first half of the year, and in Q3, we held share. So overall, for Fiscal year 'twenty three, we took share in the category. The in terms of overall POS, We're in the same range, mid single digits for the full year. Speaker 400:30:10Great. Thank you. Operator00:30:15Our next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:30:23Hi, good afternoon and nice quarter here. Thanks, Brett. My first question was just going to be around the gross margin. As I go back in our model and look at the past decade, the Q3 gross margin here really coming in at one of the strongest levels Yes, in history. And so hoping you could just add a little bit more context to where pricing is today versus how much of this is mix versus some of the productivity initiatives that you have in place and how you're thinking about gross margin going forward? Speaker 900:30:56Thanks. Speaker 300:30:57Yes, Brad. So the majority of it was pricing. Units continue to still be down. But again, Our cost savings initiatives have played out as well. If you look at we've been laser focused on cost and cash as Tim and I I have mentioned the last few quarters and then you hit the nail on the head. Speaker 300:31:19The last piece of it was favorable mix that helped our margins there. Going forward, and I've said this a bit like a broken record, we're always looking to expand margins. So we are very focused on it and We're going to continue to drive that going forward. So look for more to come. Speaker 900:31:41That's great. Thanks. And then just to follow-up on kind of the question, Bill's question earlier talking about sort of volume trends. I guess, we're seeing some green shoots, if you will, in many home related areas It had tough pandemic comparisons. And I guess I was hoping you could just talk a little bit more about maybe your optimism that we're Speaker 200:32:12Yes, Brad. Look, no doubt about it. These last couple of years, we saw, I'd say, 3 dynamics, the third being on Guardant, meaning, 1, you had kind of a post COVID consumer behavioral shift going on. 2, you had really unprecedented Inflation back to back 2 consecutive years, which of course we matched with pricing in order to protect our margins and still deliver value to our consumers. And then certainly on the Garden side, we've had a couple of years of less than optimal weather. Speaker 200:32:49And so all that has put pressure on unit takeaway. I think as you'll start to look forward, you see that inflationary cost envelope getting more and more benign. So this year, the inflation still hit us and we had to price and we priced kind of mid single digits across the enterprise, Obviously, category by category it differed. And we saw a corresponding decay in volume, kind of mid single digits. We're now at a point where we're seeing that cost inflationary pressure begin to mitigate. Speaker 200:33:27And so that sets up a different dynamic next year really in all three of those variables. One is I think a lot of that post COVID consumer behavior Starts to roll off and we can get to a little bit more normal as opposed to an unfavorable situation versus during COVID. 2, I mean, who knows on the weather, but it's hard to think 3 years in a row of rough weather. And then I think you're not going to have as much price elasticity going on. The one other call out on our business is on the Pet side and it's related to durables versus consumables. Speaker 200:33:59Durables, as you know, are most closely aligned with Pet ownership and adoption. And here we did we are seeing and I said at my prepared remarks, more downward pressure In the teens, on the durables, again, think fish tanks, small animal closures, pet pads, etcetera. I think that probably still hangs with us through the Half of 24, given pet ownership dynamics. But with the exception of that, I think we get Speaker 900:34:35That's very helpful. Thanks so much, Tim. Speaker 500:34:40Our next question Speaker 1000:34:52Where do you feel like you are in terms of your inventory destocking at retail for both businesses? Speaker 800:35:00You want to go? Sure. I'll jump in first. It's JD, Jim, and then I'll turn it over to John. We've seen significant destocking over the course of the year in a few different ways. Speaker 800:35:12One, they the retailers devoted less space For off shelf displays this year, they also were seeing a difference in the way they stopped the stores at the beginning of the year, Their initial orders and then also on replenishment, they moved to more of a just in time type replenishment model, which was the first So we were adjusting on the fly during the course of the year. But now our units our in store inventories, the units are down versus prior year, Down high single digits, let's call it. So we feel like now that the correction has taken place We're in a good position going into fiscal 'twenty four. John? Yes. Speaker 800:35:55For Pet on the Pet If you go back to Q1, I would say destocking Speaker 1100:36:02was It did happen. As we got through Q2, I think we still saw some. Q3 were normalized, I would say, so we feel really good about where retail inventories are on the Pet side as we come out of Q3 and throughout Q3. Speaker 300:36:21Yes. And I would just add, our own inventories are down, total company about 2%. Garden is up 7.6 percent but flat in units. So we still see some inflationary pressure within our cost. And then Pet was down like 13% year over year. Speaker 300:36:42So we're working ours down as well and I feel like it's really headed in the right direction, Jim. Speaker 1000:36:50Great. Speaker 500:36:50And so just Speaker 1000:36:54so it seems like there's Like a 7%, 8% difference between Guard and POS and your shipments, right? And so as we kind of lap that next year, Do you feel like that becomes a tailwind where POS is positive, but you're lapping Shipments that were lower because of the destocking and so is there kind of a mid single digit tailwind to sales in those businesses next year? Shipments and POS are more aligned. Speaker 800:37:24So Jim, I don't have a crystal ball, so that one would be tough to predict what the Looks like that. I will say this, you're absolutely right. There is a, I'd call it, a 6% to 7% gap between POS And shipments. So you're right about that. We've seen destocking. Speaker 800:37:42We think we're in good position going into next year. But in terms of Projecting that as a tailwind, Speaker 200:37:49I'll stop short of Speaker 500:37:49that. Okay. Speaker 1000:37:52And then just Nico, you guys mentioned $330,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet, how are you thinking about kind of the pace of share repurchases going forward? And then what's kind of a good interest rate to use on the cash balance? Speaker 300:38:08Yes. So we're going to be Continue to be pretty opportunistic on share repurchase. We'll meet with our Board next week and probably discuss Where and how much we want to buy, we have a matrix that we submit during the open trading period. And then as far as the cash goes, we're earning in that 4%, 4.5% Speaker 1000:38:35Range Speaker 300:38:37in terms of our investments there. So I would use 4, 4.5. Speaker 1000:38:41Great. Thank you. Speaker 500:38:46Our next question comes from Operator00:38:47the line of Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:38:53Hi. This is Shavana Chaudhry on for Andrea. How are you? Speaker 200:38:58Good. Doing well. Speaker 700:39:01Congrats on the good quarter. Very quickly, a couple of questions. Your top line trends, now that we're Setting garden season seems like you are passing on the beat in the quarter. And but then again, it seems at the same time, The pet category has been decelerating a little bit. So if you could just give us more color on that? Speaker 700:39:25And secondly, I just wanted to clarify something. Your fiscal 'twenty three guidance now of EPS, non GAAP EPS of $2.55 Can you give us what the GAAP EPS version would be? Because previously you've mentioned us $2.35 for the GAAP EPS, Just to bridge the 2. Thank you. Speaker 300:39:49Okay. So Well, I'll start with the $235,000,000 is actually non GAAP as well. So that matches up with the 2.50 Right. Yes, dollars 0.20 raise. And that was largely because when you look at our first half, We were behind prior year about $0.74 and we felt it was the right thing to do to guide down because the first half of the year It was a real challenge. Speaker 300:40:20The 3rd quarter has ended up being a record. We've seen a nice extension In terms of weather and the Garden season has sort of played out late because the weather stayed mild. So we had that play out well. But the $255,000,000 is apples to apples with the $235,000,000 Speaker 700:40:42Thanks for clarifying that. Speaker 1100:40:44Yes. In PET, the headwind that we're facing is durables, right? And if you think about the category, it's 75% Durables was down double digits. If you think about Central, our business is more eightytwenty, think about it. We're actually 82% in the light latest quarter, but think eightytwenty. Speaker 1100:41:16Our consumables were up mid And our durables were down high single digits, right? And that's a headwind for the category and it Ties to the overlap in pet adoption, I think inflation plays a little bit of a role in that Some of these items are discretionary spend. But as we look forward, it certainly is a near term headwind. But I think as we get through the first half, we feel much better about the category and we also feel very good about the long term projections Operator00:42:03Our next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:42:09Hi. I just have a couple. So to make sure I understand this, the business that you're exiting of the independent garden Retailers, that will be 5% of The Garden sales that are going away, but essentially that wasn't really profitable. So maybe you It's additive to your EBITDA, is that right? Speaker 800:42:32Yes, that's right. I would say it was profit challenged Segment of the business. I'd say that that's fairly accurate. Speaker 600:42:40Okay. And then With the exit of this relationship or the transition, were there proceeds from the buyer or Speaker 200:42:56Closing the sale price, there was a sale price. What we can say is, I think, A fair and good win win proposition for both sides. And as you noted and J. D. Confirmed, this This is the business from a sales side, less than 5% of total Garden and de minimis on the operating margin side. Speaker 600:43:23Okay. And then, when you were discussing the outlook for hard goods on the Pet side, you kind of said that I think that it could be a couple more quarters of weakness. Is that more based upon weakness at POS or is it more that you think your shipments are going to be weak because inventory levels remain high in those categories? Speaker 1100:43:46It's more POS and syndicated Key to data that we get, our inventory levels, we've made a ton of progress on inventory levels and continue to make progress on the need to make progress on the Pet side. Speaker 200:43:58Yes, really, John said it absolutely right. What I'd point to is really the underlying consumer fundamentals Supporting that unfavorable trend, right? So we have seen off the COVID highs of 2020 2021, we've seen pet ownership drop down A couple of points. And these hard goods are most correlated with that. And so you've just got a built in tailwind. Speaker 200:44:25We've seen this in the past in other recessions in Times Square Pet Ownership Dips. There tends to be 4 to 6 quarter lag on or impact on the durable side, and we're just cycling through that. So it is more of a POS thing Fueled by that underlying consumer behavior, we don't have a complete crystal ball, but I would think By the middle of next year, we've worked through that. Speaker 600:44:53Okay. But I guess inventory levels at retail in those categories of your products, They are not out of line. They're kind of okay at this point. So your selling That's Speaker 400:45:04correct. That's correct. Speaker 600:45:06All right. That's all for me. Thank you. Speaker 100:45:08Thanks. Speaker 500:45:10Our next question comes from Operator00:45:11the line of Hale Holden with Barclays. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:45:17Good afternoon. I just had two questions. The first one was related to a comment you made around Some of the Garden sales moving online this season. I was wondering what categories that was? And the second one is, if you could just give us sort of updated thoughts around what the M and A environment looks like? Speaker 800:45:36Sure. This is J. D. I'll take the first part of that question around e commerce. So Overall, e commerce continues to grow in Garden. Speaker 800:45:45It's growing at a faster rate than our bricks and mortar business. It's still overall A relatively small percentage of our business, but growing 5% and growing. But quarter to quarter, that business is growing at Plus 20% each quarter. So it's one of the fastest growing segments, the fastest growing segment. You ask which SKUs, which products, It's really across our entire portfolio. Speaker 800:46:10We're finding that the consumer, especially during the pandemic, some consumers started to shop online and we're seeing that Become very sticky and they're continuing to do that post pandemic. 2nd part of the question? Speaker 300:46:22Yes, I can take that. This is Nikko, yes, as far as M and A, it's been slow the last few quarters. We're seeing a little bit of a pickup. And I think it's also reflected in the public markets, you're starting to see a little bit more IPO activity. But it's still much slower And we're going to look for the right deals to do and we'll just continue to accumulate cash on our balance sheet to get those deals done. Speaker 100:47:06And this was our last question. Thanks everyone for joining our call today. The IR team is available for any follow-up questions you may have. Operator00:47:20Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderfulRead morePowered by