NYSE:AGS PlayAGS Q2 2023 Earnings Report $12.24 +0.01 (+0.08%) Closing price 05/29/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$12.24 0.00 (0.00%) As of 05/29/2025 04:19 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast PlayAGS EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/APlayAGS Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$89.83 millionExpected Revenue$84.16 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.67 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/APlayAGS Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/3/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 3, 2023Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsPlayAGS' next earnings date is estimated for Wednesday, August 6, 2025, based on past reporting schedules. Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by PlayAGS Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 3, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Earnings Conference Call. My name is Alex, and I'll be coordinating the call today. I'll now hand it over to your host, Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:20Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Play AGS, Incorporated Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are David Lopez, CEO and Kimo Akiana, CFO. A slide presentation reviewing our key operational and financial highlights for the Q2 ended June 30, 2023 can be found on our Investor Relations website, investors. Playags.com. Speaker 100:00:43On today's call, we will provide an overview of our Q2 2023 financial performance and offer perspective on our current financial outlook for the business. Our first expectations, projections or other characterizations of future events, Including financial projections or future market conditions is a forward looking statement based on assumptions today. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward looking statements, And we make no obligation to update our disclosures from our forward looking statements. Please refer to the earnings press release we issued today as well as risks described in our annual report on Form 10 ks, particularly in the section of these documents titled Risk Factors. Our commentary today will also include non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:24We believe the use of these non GAAP financial measures provides an additional tool for investors to use in evaluating ongoing operating results and trends in our business. These measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP metrics for our reported results can be found in our earnings release issued today. I'll turn the call over to our CEO, David Lopez. Speaker 200:01:47Thanks, Brad, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I will keep my remarks brief as I believe our record setting financial performance clear the performance of our business. Over the past several quarters, I have talked about our commitment to recruiting and hiring the best R and D, sales and product management talent to join our team. The culmination of these efforts is reflected in our 2nd quarter performance as we established 10 new records in the quarter. I will start with total revenues, which increased 17% year over year to nearly $90,000,000 improving sequentially for the 10th consecutive quarter. Speaker 200:02:29Adjusted EBITDA grew 16% year over year to approximately $40,000,000 Domestic game ops revenue increased 7% year over year to $49,300,000 establishing a new record for the 3rd consecutive quarter. Domestic RPD reached $33.48 surpassing $30 for the 9th consecutive quarter. Our premium EGM installs grew to over 2,700 units, increasing for the 14th consecutive quarter. EGM sales revenue surpassed $28,000,000 up more than 40% year over year and more than 7% ahead of the previous record set in Q3 2019. Nearly 150 unique customers, 60% higher record setting first half performance and our ability to generate free cash flow over the remainder of the year, we now expect to exit 2023 with net leverage in the range of 3.25 times Before turning the call over to Kimo, I'll highlight a few things in each product segment that I'm most excited about. Speaker 200:04:02Starting with EGMs, our new Spectra 43 cabinet continues its hot streak, topping the July EILERS Survey for the 7th consecutive month. So far, we have placed over 16 50 Spectra units And demand for the cabinet remains robust. While our 2 launch titles, Longbow Bao and Shamrock Fortunes continue to deliver exceptional performance with each averaging over 1.75 times The key to Spectra's success extends well beyond our strong games. It has been our R and D expertise, product strategy and operational execution that is aided in performance that is hands down better than anything I've ever seen. PAX Sheffler continues to take the industry by storm, pushing Q2 sales and recurring table revenues to new records. Speaker 200:05:00To date, we have placed over 265 PAX units, with our footprint increasing by approximately 30% since Q1. While some folks may take a successful launch for granted, I cannot overstate what an accomplishment it has been to successfully design, develop, That said, I would like to congratulate the engineers, software programmers, testers, assemblers and the service and sales team for their contributions to the success of this product. Looking ahead at our trial activity and the growing operator interest, I'm confident PACS will continue to serve as growth catalyst for many quarters to come. Finally, I will move to our Interactive segment, Returns on our highly focused talent investments pushed Q2 RMG revenues to a new record. As the old saying goes, Records are made to be broken, and I do not expect our Q2 record to hold up for very long. Speaker 200:06:11As just last week, we launched Our first new game leveraging our revamped RMG Gaming development team. In addition to benefiting From the first collaboration between our land based and interactive teams, the game was the first developed on our completely redesigned online platform and serves as our first title in the popular 3 reel slot segment. Looking forward, I believe we have a strong and passionate team in place to consistently deliver a steady supply of great content. In closing, I would like to thank our teams around the globe for staying focused on their specific goals and delivering on the high level objectives the company has put before them. It truly is our products and our people that I'll turn it over to Kimo. Speaker 300:07:03Thank you, David, and good afternoon to everyone on the call. As in prior quarters, I will review a couple of highlights from our reported results and provide a perspective on how we see each of our business segments trending as we look ahead to the current quarter. I will also share some thoughts on our free cash flow outlook for the year and close by addressing a few items related to our balance Turning first to our domestic EGM Gaming Operations business. 2nd quarter revenue increased 7% year over year to a record of nearly $50,000,000 well ahead of the 2% to 3% increase in market level gross gaming revenues or GGR. The growth algorithm driving our relative outperformance in Q2 remained consistent with the past several quarters. Speaker 300:07:52Modest installed base growth led by further expansion of our premium unit footprint and Spectra deployment and sustained strength in our reported domestic RPD supported by growing Spectra and premium mix, further capital efficient optimization and a relative stable GGR environment. Looking ahead to Q3, we believe the momentum behind our premium products, coupled with the relative stability of our core unit footprint and scheduled new casino openings and expansions should allow us to grow our domestic installed base for a 6th consecutive quarter. As it relates to RPD, trends observed Q3 to date continue to convey stability in market level GGR. The broader market resiliency coupled with our ability to further leverage multiple company specific catalysts, including our high performing Spectra cabinet, Increasingly deep and diverse core content portfolio and consistent premium gain market penetration momentum Should allow us to deliver Q3 domestic RPD that is in line with to slightly ahead of the 3,113 achieved in Q3 of I would remind everyone Q2 has historically served as the seasonal high point for our domestic Game Arts business, And we expect normal seasonal trends to prevail this year. Shifting to EGM equipment sales, we sold over 12 50 units globally in the 2nd quarter, up 35% year over year and 7% ahead of Q2 2019. Speaker 300:09:32The momentum building behind the continued strong performance of our Spectra cabinet, a more than 65% increase in the number of customers sold to, The ability to leverage a deeper and more diverse product portfolio and relative stability in market level demand trends all contributed to our outsized unit sales growth in the quarter. As we look ahead to Q3, accelerating demand for Spectra, A continued strategic focus on broadening our customer account penetration and consistent market level demand trends Should allow us to deliver global EGM unit sales volume that modestly exceeds Q2 levels. Moving on to EGM pricing. As David mentioned earlier, 2nd quarter global average selling price or ASP Surpass $20,000 for the first time ever, driven by a greater mix of premium price Spectra cabinet sales and continued implementation of our price integrity initiatives. Looking to Q3, although we expect Domestic unit pricing to be relatively consistent with the prior quarter, a modest projected increase in our international market sales is likely to produce a global ASP that is slightly below the level achieved in the Q2. Speaker 300:10:49Turning to our international EGM business. Recurring revenue increased nearly 20% year over year and improved sequentially for the 12th consecutive quarter. The continued strong performance of several established AGS franchise game themes throughout Mexico, further installed base optimization, Stable macroeconomic trends and favorable FX movements contributed to our improved recurring revenue performance in the quarter. International RPD topped $8 for the 2nd consecutive quarter and surpassed the $8.22 achieved in Q2 of 20 Should allow us to deliver our 13th consecutive quarter of sequential international game ops revenue growth. Looking beyond EGMs, our Table Products business delivered another record quarter with equipment sales and recurring revenue both reaching new highs. Speaker 300:11:52A 30% sequential increase in our PAX S shuffler footprint to over 265 units, Over $2,000,000 of high margin progressive revenue and growing contribution from our AGS Arsenal site license offering All contributed to our record performance in the quarter. Supported by the consistent momentum we continue to observe across The sales and recurring revenue channels, we should be able to further improve upon our record setting Q2 performance in the Q3. Shifting to Interactive, as David indicated, our RMG business set a new revenue record in the 2nd quarter, While our Interactive segment continued to generate positive adjusted EBITDA, beginning in Q3, we expect to realize a more pronounced lift in our RMG revenues as the payoff from recent investments into our technical and commercial teams and upside from recent new customer activations become better reflected in our quarterly results. Turning to margins. 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was Slightly above 44% ahead of the expectations articulated on our Q1 call. Speaker 300:13:02A continued organizational focus on operational efficiency, Better than expected performance across our higher margin recurring revenue businesses and stronger than anticipated product sales gross margins drove the relative upside in our Q2 margin performance. Although we continue to expect our full year adjusted EBITDA margin to land in the 44% to 45% range. We believe recurring revenue seasonality and our anticipated EGM unit sales mix Could produce a Q3 margin that looks relatively similar to the 44.1% delivered in the 2nd quarter. 2nd quarter capital expenditures totaled approximately $16,000,000 bringing our year to date capital spend to just under $30,000,000 While we continue to project full year capital expenditures, inclusive of anticipated capitalized R and D to land in the range of $65,000,000 to $70,000,000 Our company wide commitment to capital deployment discipline has us trending toward the lower end of the targeted full year range. Cash interest in the quarter was approximately $13,000,000 increasing our year to date cash interest expense to roughly 26,000,000 Looking to the back half of the year, we believe the recent move higher in market level rates could modestly increase our quarterly cash interest payments relative to the $13,000,000 incurred in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:14:302nd quarter free cash flow defined as net operating cash flow plus proceeds from payments on customer notes receivable less CapEx surpass $12,000,000 increasing year to date free cash flow to approximately 4,000,000 Looking out over the remainder of 2023, we believe the combination of our continued operating momentum, capital deployment discipline And a heightened organizational focus on working capital efficiency should allow us to consistently generate positive quarterly free cash flow With full year 2023 free cash flow on pace to exceed the approximately $15,000,000 of normalized free cash flow delivered in 2022. Finally, although David stole a little bit of my thunder here, I want to reinforce, we now expect to exit the year With net leverage in the range of 3.25 times to 3.5 times, consistent with our prior range and commentary, The assumptions underpinning the midpoint of our revised targeted leverage range continue to contemplate a modest pullback in prevailing market level conditions over the remainder of 2023 as compared to those encountered in 2022 2023 year to date period. That said, should broader market trends remain relatively consistent with those we are currently experiencing, we would expect to exit 2023 with net leverage in the bottom half of the range. Speaker 300:15:59Finally, our approach to deleveraging remains unchanged as we continue to target Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. We would now like Operator00:16:32Our first question for today comes from Ed Engel of Roth MKM. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:43Hi. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a nice quarter. Just wondering how you're thinking about leverage And I guess for next year, nice to see progress kind of coming at the low end of your target range, hopefully, within the year. As you look to 2024, is there any opportunity to maybe get some interest rate savings there? And I guess, do you kind of have a target leverage ratio in mind you'd Speaker 300:17:12Good question. I mean, it's Obviously, top of mind for us, right? But we put out our target for this year. But as we look forward, I think definitely top of mind has What will be the right leverage target? What's the right market condition right to start looking at refinancing our debt and getting something that Maybe meets where the business is at, at that time. Speaker 300:17:34As far as like an exact number, I couldn't give you like an exact leverage target where it would make sense because I think There's a lot of things to consider, right, including our credit rating and other things like that. But what I would say is, as we look into next year, right, like I think we've always said So one of our, call it, medium term targets and a big thing for us would be to get below 3 times leverage. So I think, again, that's What we're driving and I think it kind of permeates through the organization, right, in a lot of different decisions that we make. Next year, I think one of our targets would be to get down to that 3 times leverage target. Speaker 400:18:17Great. That's helpful. And then, again, really good kind of momentum across the business in terms of just market share gains. How do you think about your R and D levels here? Do you think they kind of continue to grow with revenue? Speaker 400:18:28Or might you need to kind of ramp that up a notch to kind of maintain some of your momentum? Speaker 200:18:35So we think we're in a good spot right now. Obviously, we can be opportunistic from time to time if we see talent on the market. As we said in the prepared remarks, this is a big focus for us. We always want to be better. We always want to be top tier as far as talent goes. Speaker 200:18:54But I think that right now we're comfortable With where we are as far as studios and bandwidth and our ability to put out quality content, not just game content, But also the hardware we put out. And I think that's sort of reflected in the performance, but it's what we talked about with Spectra 43. It's not just one thing, and I know the question specifically about R and D. But how we're focused is just Structure around product, distribution, service and obviously game and cabinet creation. And that's That's where we made our investment, and I think that we're reaping the benefits right now. Speaker 200:19:37And at the appropriate time, obviously, we can scale up a little bit more. But we're very thoughtful about how we're going to do that, going forward. We know we're in a very good place right now with the number of studios we have and Not just the number, but the quality of the employees that we have on the team. Operator00:20:05Our next question comes from Chad Beynon of Macquarie. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:13Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and nice quarter guys. I wanted to start with your premium install base. This It appears to be kind of the big segment that everyone's focused on. And it seems like as long as the games are performing and operators are making money From these games, they're going to continue to add the product. Speaker 500:20:35So given where some of your competitors' Current markets are or their current percentages are. What's kind of a near term goal for you guys? Because if you're performing well, There's certainly going to be demand here. Can this continue to move up through 2023 and 2024? Thanks. Speaker 200:20:57Yes. Thanks, Chad. Yes, we continue to move up and we really don't I think we've got some internal aspirational goals. We look at our competition as far as what their premium base is as a percentage of their entire installed base. We know we have some bandwidth still when we look at those numbers, both from a unit standpoint and sort of revenue, Premium revenue is a percentage of all Game Ops revenue. Speaker 200:21:26But that's all I'd say aspirational. Yes, there's upside here for sure. And sort of we know we've got quite a ways to go, but we don't really give that percentage, the way of the year looking for it there. Love to, but we're not there as far as public statements, we'll say. Speaker 500:21:47Okay. But safe to assume that it can still move higher? Speaker 200:21:50Oh, yes. No, I mean, we're confident We've got the right, server lineup. And if you look at our pipeline of games that are coming and Sort of show up at G2E, you'll see some real fresh new premium content. But yes, performance is still strong for us, and we anticipate Content that keep flowing for us there. Speaker 500:22:18Thanks, David. And then, Kimo, within your guidance, you talked about flat to slightly higher, EGM unit sales for the 3rd quarter. That kind of goes against what normal seasonality may be for some others. So clearly, it shows that you're taking market share and given Your broader customer penetration, that's certainly shining through. Is it fair to assume that the 4th quarter could still be Seasonally the highest quarter, just given how strong the operators are doing and given new product that comes in the 4th quarter? Speaker 500:22:55Thanks. Speaker 300:22:58Yes. I mean, I think one of the themes we've talked about, I think, last quarter and this quarter is like normal seasonality across different parts of our business Still hold strong, right? So I think your assumption about Q4 possibly being the high watermark for sales is a good assumption. And I think our commentary about our beliefs on Q3 is, yes, definitely driven by Spectra, right? I think if you You look where Spectra is in its life cycle, I mean, it's a fairly newly launched product. Speaker 300:23:28And with that momentum, Game performance, these are just the initial gains that are on Spectra, and we have a whole roadmap of gains to back up this hardware. We feel really good about where we are and where the product is headed right now. Speaker 500:23:45Thanks, Kimil. Appreciate it guys. Speaker 600:23:48Yes. Thanks, Jeremy. Operator00:23:52Thank you. Our next question comes from Barry Jonas of Turos. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:24:00Hey, guys. Just wanted to Speaker 700:24:01follow-up on Ed's question. A really nice quarter with free cash flow generation and the deleverage improvement. Just curious at what points to share repurchases, get interesting given where valuations at. Speaker 300:24:17Always a final question, right? I mean, again, we'll come back to leverage targets and where we I feel good about where the company can get to. And when you talk about something like refinancing our debt and the type of savings we can realize from that event, I think for me personally and I think for the company, we get more excited about that. So I think our focus is really going to be on, again, just deleveraging. I mean, your question about this magic number of where does the equity get to where it makes sense, I mean, I'm not ready to get that number either. Speaker 300:24:49But I'll say we're just 100% focused on, I think, deleveraging and accumulating cash on the balance sheet right now. Again, that refi event, I think, will be potentially a good event for the company and that will yield some great cash savings at some point. So I think again, that's 100 percent of our focus. Speaker 700:25:13Great. And then just for a follow-up, we're not modeling anything in But I think investors are very excited about the potential there. Just curious if there are any updates you can share there. Speaker 200:25:27Yes. So thanks, Barry. Niskilla primarily is probably your question. There's a couple of others as well. But at the moment, we're sort of standing fast, as I've said, waiting for any sort of news on that front. Speaker 200:25:41Nothing to report on at this time. I think the good news is, since things have obviously settled in after Supreme Court decision. We're starting to see some marketing activity at Nezkila and we are Leasing machines down there participating. So we can see the results of that in the numbers as that market seems To be maintaining and improving its strength. So it's good news on that front. Speaker 200:26:10But as far as any expansionary measures, We're waiting patiently. Speaker 700:26:18Great. Thanks and a nice quarter. Speaker 200:26:22Thanks Barry. Operator00:26:25Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Spaniel from Stifel. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:26:32Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe starting out here on the EGM business, Gross margins, really nice performance in the quarter by my math, up over 500 bps versus Q1 and well ahead of 2019 levels. Could you just expand a bit more on the drivers here? And is there any reason to think why this won't be a sustainable level moving forward? Speaker 300:26:57Yes. I mean, I think if you look at one of the themes again we've been talking about is Spectra, right? And I think the power of The way Spectra was built and designed and the type of margins we were expecting even before we launched it, I think it's holding true. And you can see Q2 is definitely a testament to when we have a strong quarter of Spectra sales as far as the mix, right, like we want to emphasize mix too because We definitely don't want to deemphasize curve like Orion curve is still an active great product in our portfolio, but does carry a different margin. So we have a quarter that is a strong Spectra quarter. Speaker 300:27:34That's where I think you'll see that sales margin come on even stronger. Like this quarter, I think gross margin on slot product sales was near 55%, right? I think if you look at where it goes going forward, It probably will always have a 5 handle in the front of it. So it will be within the 50% to 55% range. And again, we'll highlight it will be dependent on mix. Speaker 300:27:56And I think as we move forward as well, I think one thing we've been focused on as well is capturing a little more international sales, right? So if there's a quarter where we get a little more international sales generally, those carry slightly lower gross margins, so that could affect our gross margin as well. Speaker 200:28:14I'd only add a little bit to that Barry in that as far as margins go looking into the future, we look at these cabinets. Spectra 43 is our current release. We sort of refer to it as a working name as NextGen Cabinets. And the thing that we've done is Excuse me, Jeff's on. Sorry, Barry is gone now. Speaker 200:28:35Thanks. So Jeff, the one thing to keep in mind here is that As we talked about that R and D and in particular our hardware teams, we've made sure that Our development of these cabinets have a lot of shared parts. And it seems like every iteration we come out with when we were at Orion And now we're in the Spectra. We get better at this every sort of next generation of cabinet that comes out. And as the next versions of Spectro or NextGen come out, I think you'll continue to see those efficiencies there. Speaker 800:29:13That's helpful and encouraging. Thanks for that color. Moving over to the Interactive business, You called out in the release and during the prepared remarks some investments into growth impacting margins during the quarter. Kimo, could you just provide some color on sort of how you see these investments phasing out? And when do you expect to see maybe some more typical Speaker 300:29:41Yes. So your question sorry, just to be clear, your question is specific to Interactive And the investments we've been making there? Speaker 800:29:48Correct. Yes. Some of the investments you made in the interactive side of things. Speaker 300:29:53Yes. I mean, we started sort of, I'll say, our incremental investment journey last year, right, related to Interactive. We sort of built Basically built another game studio, built up our commercial team and did some, we'll call it restructuring there. As we move through this year, We're excited about H2, right? Because if you look at where we are now, we're just starting to release, we'll say some new content from our new studio And there's some original content coming out as well. Speaker 300:30:23So I think as we move forward, looking to next year, I think is when you'll start to see, Call it some operating leverage from that business. But again, equally important to emphasize, right, like we I think we're we've been in the business long enough to know that you need Keep incrementally investing at a certain rate to ensure the long term success of that business, but we would expect some operating leverage starting maybe next year Speaker 200:30:49And Jeff, this is David again. But I think this is an area where we're very excited going forward. We always talk about volume and sort of velocity of putting games out there. But I think what's equally as important is that Our game selection from brick and mortar, the way that we interact with our teams that are porting that content over User interface and all that. And then as I've said in the past, Kimo commented like original Content for online, like unique original content for online gaming. Speaker 200:31:25So we anticipate some really good things are going to happen here over the next 12 months. And obviously, some operating leverage will come out of that, but we're super excited about this one. Speaker 800:31:37Great. Thanks again. Nice quarter. Operator00:31:45Our next question comes from David Katz of Jefferies. Speaker 600:31:58Look, I wanted to just get a little more color on the pipeline. Obviously, we don't want steal any thunder that may be coming from G2E. But just give us a sense of the scale and scope and what The magnitude of what you're following up obviously on the strong momentum that you already have. Speaker 200:32:25Yes. Thanks, Damon. So yes, we don't like to spoiler alert the situation at G2E. I just like to say it's always, Hey, just everyone show up at G2E, see what we have to show there. I don't I would say that we've got a lot of interesting things that We'll show a G2E and in the coming, I'll call it, 6 to 9 months. Speaker 200:32:48And this is, again, a reflection of the investment that we've made. We got the question earlier about, hey, are we comfortable where we sit in R and D right now? And I'd say we're really pleased with where we're at and Not just productivity from a games point of view, but I think that you're talking mainly about cabinets. And so we think We're sitting in a good place. There will be some really nice things coming down the road here, But I don't want to upset R and D and product management by spoiling their big reveals. Speaker 600:33:29Okay. Can we talk then perhaps about sort of share target Speaker 200:33:36or I'm sorry, I know what you and I, but Speaker 600:33:42Okay. No, I realized I just sounded disappointed and I didn't I mean to tip that. But look, I'd like to just get a little more sense of your kind of medium term aspirations In terms of scale and market share, etcetera, and where you think you can take this? What's your vision? Speaker 200:34:06A little bit like we said earlier. We know there's a lot of upside, David. I think that both on the premium side, which was Specific question we had earlier, like, hey, do we have a specific target there on just ShipShare being another figure? I think there's a whole bunch of KPIs. And I also think, Tim, as we look at it's always good to look at some of our competition. Speaker 200:34:32And as we do, In the future, open up some new swim lanes for ourselves, in the product categories underneath EGM specifically. I think that that's going to help us pick up additional ship share. Not so long ago, we were really only in Really selling Portrait only. Now we're selling Portrait on the Spectra 483 and we're selling Curve on the Orion side. We'll continue to sort of like probe into new, as we like to say, the swim lanes in the EGM space. Speaker 200:35:06And I think as you see that unfold Over the next, we'll say, a year or so, you'll see sort of where the potential is for market share gains and just improvements overall. I really think it's going to be exciting times over the course of the second half of this year and moving into a good chunk of 2024. There's some good upside here, Chris. Speaker 600:35:33Okay. I'll take that Operator00:35:43Thank you. We currently have no further questions for today. So that concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect yourRead morePowered by Key Takeaways Total revenues rose 17% year-over-year to nearly $90 million with 10 consecutive quarters of sequential growth and adjusted EBITDA up 16% to approximately $40 million. Premium EGM installs topped 2,700 units for the 14th straight quarter, driven by Spectra 43’s success (1,650+ units placed, top of the Eilers Survey) and 40% Y/Y growth in EGM sales revenue. The Table Products segment delivered record results as PAX shuffler placements climbed 30% sequentially to over 265 units, boosting high-margin progressive revenue and site license contributions. Interactive RMG revenues reached a new high, fueled by recent talent investments and the launch of a game on a redesigned platform and in the 3-reel slot category. Free cash flow exceeded $12 million in Q2, full-year capex is forecast at $65–$70 million (trending at the low end), and net leverage is expected to improve to ~3.25× by year-end. AI Generated. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Earnings Conference Call. My name is Alex, and I'll be coordinating the call today. I'll now hand it over to your host, Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:20Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Play AGS, Incorporated Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are David Lopez, CEO and Kimo Akiana, CFO. A slide presentation reviewing our key operational and financial highlights for the Q2 ended June 30, 2023 can be found on our Investor Relations website, investors. Playags.com. Speaker 100:00:43On today's call, we will provide an overview of our Q2 2023 financial performance and offer perspective on our current financial outlook for the business. Our first expectations, projections or other characterizations of future events, Including financial projections or future market conditions is a forward looking statement based on assumptions today. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward looking statements, And we make no obligation to update our disclosures from our forward looking statements. Please refer to the earnings press release we issued today as well as risks described in our annual report on Form 10 ks, particularly in the section of these documents titled Risk Factors. Our commentary today will also include non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:24We believe the use of these non GAAP financial measures provides an additional tool for investors to use in evaluating ongoing operating results and trends in our business. These measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP metrics for our reported results can be found in our earnings release issued today. I'll turn the call over to our CEO, David Lopez. Speaker 200:01:47Thanks, Brad, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I will keep my remarks brief as I believe our record setting financial performance clear the performance of our business. Over the past several quarters, I have talked about our commitment to recruiting and hiring the best R and D, sales and product management talent to join our team. The culmination of these efforts is reflected in our 2nd quarter performance as we established 10 new records in the quarter. I will start with total revenues, which increased 17% year over year to nearly $90,000,000 improving sequentially for the 10th consecutive quarter. Speaker 200:02:29Adjusted EBITDA grew 16% year over year to approximately $40,000,000 Domestic game ops revenue increased 7% year over year to $49,300,000 establishing a new record for the 3rd consecutive quarter. Domestic RPD reached $33.48 surpassing $30 for the 9th consecutive quarter. Our premium EGM installs grew to over 2,700 units, increasing for the 14th consecutive quarter. EGM sales revenue surpassed $28,000,000 up more than 40% year over year and more than 7% ahead of the previous record set in Q3 2019. Nearly 150 unique customers, 60% higher record setting first half performance and our ability to generate free cash flow over the remainder of the year, we now expect to exit 2023 with net leverage in the range of 3.25 times Before turning the call over to Kimo, I'll highlight a few things in each product segment that I'm most excited about. Speaker 200:04:02Starting with EGMs, our new Spectra 43 cabinet continues its hot streak, topping the July EILERS Survey for the 7th consecutive month. So far, we have placed over 16 50 Spectra units And demand for the cabinet remains robust. While our 2 launch titles, Longbow Bao and Shamrock Fortunes continue to deliver exceptional performance with each averaging over 1.75 times The key to Spectra's success extends well beyond our strong games. It has been our R and D expertise, product strategy and operational execution that is aided in performance that is hands down better than anything I've ever seen. PAX Sheffler continues to take the industry by storm, pushing Q2 sales and recurring table revenues to new records. Speaker 200:05:00To date, we have placed over 265 PAX units, with our footprint increasing by approximately 30% since Q1. While some folks may take a successful launch for granted, I cannot overstate what an accomplishment it has been to successfully design, develop, That said, I would like to congratulate the engineers, software programmers, testers, assemblers and the service and sales team for their contributions to the success of this product. Looking ahead at our trial activity and the growing operator interest, I'm confident PACS will continue to serve as growth catalyst for many quarters to come. Finally, I will move to our Interactive segment, Returns on our highly focused talent investments pushed Q2 RMG revenues to a new record. As the old saying goes, Records are made to be broken, and I do not expect our Q2 record to hold up for very long. Speaker 200:06:11As just last week, we launched Our first new game leveraging our revamped RMG Gaming development team. In addition to benefiting From the first collaboration between our land based and interactive teams, the game was the first developed on our completely redesigned online platform and serves as our first title in the popular 3 reel slot segment. Looking forward, I believe we have a strong and passionate team in place to consistently deliver a steady supply of great content. In closing, I would like to thank our teams around the globe for staying focused on their specific goals and delivering on the high level objectives the company has put before them. It truly is our products and our people that I'll turn it over to Kimo. Speaker 300:07:03Thank you, David, and good afternoon to everyone on the call. As in prior quarters, I will review a couple of highlights from our reported results and provide a perspective on how we see each of our business segments trending as we look ahead to the current quarter. I will also share some thoughts on our free cash flow outlook for the year and close by addressing a few items related to our balance Turning first to our domestic EGM Gaming Operations business. 2nd quarter revenue increased 7% year over year to a record of nearly $50,000,000 well ahead of the 2% to 3% increase in market level gross gaming revenues or GGR. The growth algorithm driving our relative outperformance in Q2 remained consistent with the past several quarters. Speaker 300:07:52Modest installed base growth led by further expansion of our premium unit footprint and Spectra deployment and sustained strength in our reported domestic RPD supported by growing Spectra and premium mix, further capital efficient optimization and a relative stable GGR environment. Looking ahead to Q3, we believe the momentum behind our premium products, coupled with the relative stability of our core unit footprint and scheduled new casino openings and expansions should allow us to grow our domestic installed base for a 6th consecutive quarter. As it relates to RPD, trends observed Q3 to date continue to convey stability in market level GGR. The broader market resiliency coupled with our ability to further leverage multiple company specific catalysts, including our high performing Spectra cabinet, Increasingly deep and diverse core content portfolio and consistent premium gain market penetration momentum Should allow us to deliver Q3 domestic RPD that is in line with to slightly ahead of the 3,113 achieved in Q3 of I would remind everyone Q2 has historically served as the seasonal high point for our domestic Game Arts business, And we expect normal seasonal trends to prevail this year. Shifting to EGM equipment sales, we sold over 12 50 units globally in the 2nd quarter, up 35% year over year and 7% ahead of Q2 2019. Speaker 300:09:32The momentum building behind the continued strong performance of our Spectra cabinet, a more than 65% increase in the number of customers sold to, The ability to leverage a deeper and more diverse product portfolio and relative stability in market level demand trends all contributed to our outsized unit sales growth in the quarter. As we look ahead to Q3, accelerating demand for Spectra, A continued strategic focus on broadening our customer account penetration and consistent market level demand trends Should allow us to deliver global EGM unit sales volume that modestly exceeds Q2 levels. Moving on to EGM pricing. As David mentioned earlier, 2nd quarter global average selling price or ASP Surpass $20,000 for the first time ever, driven by a greater mix of premium price Spectra cabinet sales and continued implementation of our price integrity initiatives. Looking to Q3, although we expect Domestic unit pricing to be relatively consistent with the prior quarter, a modest projected increase in our international market sales is likely to produce a global ASP that is slightly below the level achieved in the Q2. Speaker 300:10:49Turning to our international EGM business. Recurring revenue increased nearly 20% year over year and improved sequentially for the 12th consecutive quarter. The continued strong performance of several established AGS franchise game themes throughout Mexico, further installed base optimization, Stable macroeconomic trends and favorable FX movements contributed to our improved recurring revenue performance in the quarter. International RPD topped $8 for the 2nd consecutive quarter and surpassed the $8.22 achieved in Q2 of 20 Should allow us to deliver our 13th consecutive quarter of sequential international game ops revenue growth. Looking beyond EGMs, our Table Products business delivered another record quarter with equipment sales and recurring revenue both reaching new highs. Speaker 300:11:52A 30% sequential increase in our PAX S shuffler footprint to over 265 units, Over $2,000,000 of high margin progressive revenue and growing contribution from our AGS Arsenal site license offering All contributed to our record performance in the quarter. Supported by the consistent momentum we continue to observe across The sales and recurring revenue channels, we should be able to further improve upon our record setting Q2 performance in the Q3. Shifting to Interactive, as David indicated, our RMG business set a new revenue record in the 2nd quarter, While our Interactive segment continued to generate positive adjusted EBITDA, beginning in Q3, we expect to realize a more pronounced lift in our RMG revenues as the payoff from recent investments into our technical and commercial teams and upside from recent new customer activations become better reflected in our quarterly results. Turning to margins. 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was Slightly above 44% ahead of the expectations articulated on our Q1 call. Speaker 300:13:02A continued organizational focus on operational efficiency, Better than expected performance across our higher margin recurring revenue businesses and stronger than anticipated product sales gross margins drove the relative upside in our Q2 margin performance. Although we continue to expect our full year adjusted EBITDA margin to land in the 44% to 45% range. We believe recurring revenue seasonality and our anticipated EGM unit sales mix Could produce a Q3 margin that looks relatively similar to the 44.1% delivered in the 2nd quarter. 2nd quarter capital expenditures totaled approximately $16,000,000 bringing our year to date capital spend to just under $30,000,000 While we continue to project full year capital expenditures, inclusive of anticipated capitalized R and D to land in the range of $65,000,000 to $70,000,000 Our company wide commitment to capital deployment discipline has us trending toward the lower end of the targeted full year range. Cash interest in the quarter was approximately $13,000,000 increasing our year to date cash interest expense to roughly 26,000,000 Looking to the back half of the year, we believe the recent move higher in market level rates could modestly increase our quarterly cash interest payments relative to the $13,000,000 incurred in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:14:302nd quarter free cash flow defined as net operating cash flow plus proceeds from payments on customer notes receivable less CapEx surpass $12,000,000 increasing year to date free cash flow to approximately 4,000,000 Looking out over the remainder of 2023, we believe the combination of our continued operating momentum, capital deployment discipline And a heightened organizational focus on working capital efficiency should allow us to consistently generate positive quarterly free cash flow With full year 2023 free cash flow on pace to exceed the approximately $15,000,000 of normalized free cash flow delivered in 2022. Finally, although David stole a little bit of my thunder here, I want to reinforce, we now expect to exit the year With net leverage in the range of 3.25 times to 3.5 times, consistent with our prior range and commentary, The assumptions underpinning the midpoint of our revised targeted leverage range continue to contemplate a modest pullback in prevailing market level conditions over the remainder of 2023 as compared to those encountered in 2022 2023 year to date period. That said, should broader market trends remain relatively consistent with those we are currently experiencing, we would expect to exit 2023 with net leverage in the bottom half of the range. Speaker 300:15:59Finally, our approach to deleveraging remains unchanged as we continue to target Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. We would now like Operator00:16:32Our first question for today comes from Ed Engel of Roth MKM. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:43Hi. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a nice quarter. Just wondering how you're thinking about leverage And I guess for next year, nice to see progress kind of coming at the low end of your target range, hopefully, within the year. As you look to 2024, is there any opportunity to maybe get some interest rate savings there? And I guess, do you kind of have a target leverage ratio in mind you'd Speaker 300:17:12Good question. I mean, it's Obviously, top of mind for us, right? But we put out our target for this year. But as we look forward, I think definitely top of mind has What will be the right leverage target? What's the right market condition right to start looking at refinancing our debt and getting something that Maybe meets where the business is at, at that time. Speaker 300:17:34As far as like an exact number, I couldn't give you like an exact leverage target where it would make sense because I think There's a lot of things to consider, right, including our credit rating and other things like that. But what I would say is, as we look into next year, right, like I think we've always said So one of our, call it, medium term targets and a big thing for us would be to get below 3 times leverage. So I think, again, that's What we're driving and I think it kind of permeates through the organization, right, in a lot of different decisions that we make. Next year, I think one of our targets would be to get down to that 3 times leverage target. Speaker 400:18:17Great. That's helpful. And then, again, really good kind of momentum across the business in terms of just market share gains. How do you think about your R and D levels here? Do you think they kind of continue to grow with revenue? Speaker 400:18:28Or might you need to kind of ramp that up a notch to kind of maintain some of your momentum? Speaker 200:18:35So we think we're in a good spot right now. Obviously, we can be opportunistic from time to time if we see talent on the market. As we said in the prepared remarks, this is a big focus for us. We always want to be better. We always want to be top tier as far as talent goes. Speaker 200:18:54But I think that right now we're comfortable With where we are as far as studios and bandwidth and our ability to put out quality content, not just game content, But also the hardware we put out. And I think that's sort of reflected in the performance, but it's what we talked about with Spectra 43. It's not just one thing, and I know the question specifically about R and D. But how we're focused is just Structure around product, distribution, service and obviously game and cabinet creation. And that's That's where we made our investment, and I think that we're reaping the benefits right now. Speaker 200:19:37And at the appropriate time, obviously, we can scale up a little bit more. But we're very thoughtful about how we're going to do that, going forward. We know we're in a very good place right now with the number of studios we have and Not just the number, but the quality of the employees that we have on the team. Operator00:20:05Our next question comes from Chad Beynon of Macquarie. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:13Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and nice quarter guys. I wanted to start with your premium install base. This It appears to be kind of the big segment that everyone's focused on. And it seems like as long as the games are performing and operators are making money From these games, they're going to continue to add the product. Speaker 500:20:35So given where some of your competitors' Current markets are or their current percentages are. What's kind of a near term goal for you guys? Because if you're performing well, There's certainly going to be demand here. Can this continue to move up through 2023 and 2024? Thanks. Speaker 200:20:57Yes. Thanks, Chad. Yes, we continue to move up and we really don't I think we've got some internal aspirational goals. We look at our competition as far as what their premium base is as a percentage of their entire installed base. We know we have some bandwidth still when we look at those numbers, both from a unit standpoint and sort of revenue, Premium revenue is a percentage of all Game Ops revenue. Speaker 200:21:26But that's all I'd say aspirational. Yes, there's upside here for sure. And sort of we know we've got quite a ways to go, but we don't really give that percentage, the way of the year looking for it there. Love to, but we're not there as far as public statements, we'll say. Speaker 500:21:47Okay. But safe to assume that it can still move higher? Speaker 200:21:50Oh, yes. No, I mean, we're confident We've got the right, server lineup. And if you look at our pipeline of games that are coming and Sort of show up at G2E, you'll see some real fresh new premium content. But yes, performance is still strong for us, and we anticipate Content that keep flowing for us there. Speaker 500:22:18Thanks, David. And then, Kimo, within your guidance, you talked about flat to slightly higher, EGM unit sales for the 3rd quarter. That kind of goes against what normal seasonality may be for some others. So clearly, it shows that you're taking market share and given Your broader customer penetration, that's certainly shining through. Is it fair to assume that the 4th quarter could still be Seasonally the highest quarter, just given how strong the operators are doing and given new product that comes in the 4th quarter? Speaker 500:22:55Thanks. Speaker 300:22:58Yes. I mean, I think one of the themes we've talked about, I think, last quarter and this quarter is like normal seasonality across different parts of our business Still hold strong, right? So I think your assumption about Q4 possibly being the high watermark for sales is a good assumption. And I think our commentary about our beliefs on Q3 is, yes, definitely driven by Spectra, right? I think if you You look where Spectra is in its life cycle, I mean, it's a fairly newly launched product. Speaker 300:23:28And with that momentum, Game performance, these are just the initial gains that are on Spectra, and we have a whole roadmap of gains to back up this hardware. We feel really good about where we are and where the product is headed right now. Speaker 500:23:45Thanks, Kimil. Appreciate it guys. Speaker 600:23:48Yes. Thanks, Jeremy. Operator00:23:52Thank you. Our next question comes from Barry Jonas of Turos. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:24:00Hey, guys. Just wanted to Speaker 700:24:01follow-up on Ed's question. A really nice quarter with free cash flow generation and the deleverage improvement. Just curious at what points to share repurchases, get interesting given where valuations at. Speaker 300:24:17Always a final question, right? I mean, again, we'll come back to leverage targets and where we I feel good about where the company can get to. And when you talk about something like refinancing our debt and the type of savings we can realize from that event, I think for me personally and I think for the company, we get more excited about that. So I think our focus is really going to be on, again, just deleveraging. I mean, your question about this magic number of where does the equity get to where it makes sense, I mean, I'm not ready to get that number either. Speaker 300:24:49But I'll say we're just 100% focused on, I think, deleveraging and accumulating cash on the balance sheet right now. Again, that refi event, I think, will be potentially a good event for the company and that will yield some great cash savings at some point. So I think again, that's 100 percent of our focus. Speaker 700:25:13Great. And then just for a follow-up, we're not modeling anything in But I think investors are very excited about the potential there. Just curious if there are any updates you can share there. Speaker 200:25:27Yes. So thanks, Barry. Niskilla primarily is probably your question. There's a couple of others as well. But at the moment, we're sort of standing fast, as I've said, waiting for any sort of news on that front. Speaker 200:25:41Nothing to report on at this time. I think the good news is, since things have obviously settled in after Supreme Court decision. We're starting to see some marketing activity at Nezkila and we are Leasing machines down there participating. So we can see the results of that in the numbers as that market seems To be maintaining and improving its strength. So it's good news on that front. Speaker 200:26:10But as far as any expansionary measures, We're waiting patiently. Speaker 700:26:18Great. Thanks and a nice quarter. Speaker 200:26:22Thanks Barry. Operator00:26:25Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Spaniel from Stifel. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:26:32Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe starting out here on the EGM business, Gross margins, really nice performance in the quarter by my math, up over 500 bps versus Q1 and well ahead of 2019 levels. Could you just expand a bit more on the drivers here? And is there any reason to think why this won't be a sustainable level moving forward? Speaker 300:26:57Yes. I mean, I think if you look at one of the themes again we've been talking about is Spectra, right? And I think the power of The way Spectra was built and designed and the type of margins we were expecting even before we launched it, I think it's holding true. And you can see Q2 is definitely a testament to when we have a strong quarter of Spectra sales as far as the mix, right, like we want to emphasize mix too because We definitely don't want to deemphasize curve like Orion curve is still an active great product in our portfolio, but does carry a different margin. So we have a quarter that is a strong Spectra quarter. Speaker 300:27:34That's where I think you'll see that sales margin come on even stronger. Like this quarter, I think gross margin on slot product sales was near 55%, right? I think if you look at where it goes going forward, It probably will always have a 5 handle in the front of it. So it will be within the 50% to 55% range. And again, we'll highlight it will be dependent on mix. Speaker 300:27:56And I think as we move forward as well, I think one thing we've been focused on as well is capturing a little more international sales, right? So if there's a quarter where we get a little more international sales generally, those carry slightly lower gross margins, so that could affect our gross margin as well. Speaker 200:28:14I'd only add a little bit to that Barry in that as far as margins go looking into the future, we look at these cabinets. Spectra 43 is our current release. We sort of refer to it as a working name as NextGen Cabinets. And the thing that we've done is Excuse me, Jeff's on. Sorry, Barry is gone now. Speaker 200:28:35Thanks. So Jeff, the one thing to keep in mind here is that As we talked about that R and D and in particular our hardware teams, we've made sure that Our development of these cabinets have a lot of shared parts. And it seems like every iteration we come out with when we were at Orion And now we're in the Spectra. We get better at this every sort of next generation of cabinet that comes out. And as the next versions of Spectro or NextGen come out, I think you'll continue to see those efficiencies there. Speaker 800:29:13That's helpful and encouraging. Thanks for that color. Moving over to the Interactive business, You called out in the release and during the prepared remarks some investments into growth impacting margins during the quarter. Kimo, could you just provide some color on sort of how you see these investments phasing out? And when do you expect to see maybe some more typical Speaker 300:29:41Yes. So your question sorry, just to be clear, your question is specific to Interactive And the investments we've been making there? Speaker 800:29:48Correct. Yes. Some of the investments you made in the interactive side of things. Speaker 300:29:53Yes. I mean, we started sort of, I'll say, our incremental investment journey last year, right, related to Interactive. We sort of built Basically built another game studio, built up our commercial team and did some, we'll call it restructuring there. As we move through this year, We're excited about H2, right? Because if you look at where we are now, we're just starting to release, we'll say some new content from our new studio And there's some original content coming out as well. Speaker 300:30:23So I think as we move forward, looking to next year, I think is when you'll start to see, Call it some operating leverage from that business. But again, equally important to emphasize, right, like we I think we're we've been in the business long enough to know that you need Keep incrementally investing at a certain rate to ensure the long term success of that business, but we would expect some operating leverage starting maybe next year Speaker 200:30:49And Jeff, this is David again. But I think this is an area where we're very excited going forward. We always talk about volume and sort of velocity of putting games out there. But I think what's equally as important is that Our game selection from brick and mortar, the way that we interact with our teams that are porting that content over User interface and all that. And then as I've said in the past, Kimo commented like original Content for online, like unique original content for online gaming. Speaker 200:31:25So we anticipate some really good things are going to happen here over the next 12 months. And obviously, some operating leverage will come out of that, but we're super excited about this one. Speaker 800:31:37Great. Thanks again. Nice quarter. Operator00:31:45Our next question comes from David Katz of Jefferies. Speaker 600:31:58Look, I wanted to just get a little more color on the pipeline. Obviously, we don't want steal any thunder that may be coming from G2E. But just give us a sense of the scale and scope and what The magnitude of what you're following up obviously on the strong momentum that you already have. Speaker 200:32:25Yes. Thanks, Damon. So yes, we don't like to spoiler alert the situation at G2E. I just like to say it's always, Hey, just everyone show up at G2E, see what we have to show there. I don't I would say that we've got a lot of interesting things that We'll show a G2E and in the coming, I'll call it, 6 to 9 months. Speaker 200:32:48And this is, again, a reflection of the investment that we've made. We got the question earlier about, hey, are we comfortable where we sit in R and D right now? And I'd say we're really pleased with where we're at and Not just productivity from a games point of view, but I think that you're talking mainly about cabinets. And so we think We're sitting in a good place. There will be some really nice things coming down the road here, But I don't want to upset R and D and product management by spoiling their big reveals. Speaker 600:33:29Okay. Can we talk then perhaps about sort of share target Speaker 200:33:36or I'm sorry, I know what you and I, but Speaker 600:33:42Okay. No, I realized I just sounded disappointed and I didn't I mean to tip that. But look, I'd like to just get a little more sense of your kind of medium term aspirations In terms of scale and market share, etcetera, and where you think you can take this? What's your vision? Speaker 200:34:06A little bit like we said earlier. We know there's a lot of upside, David. I think that both on the premium side, which was Specific question we had earlier, like, hey, do we have a specific target there on just ShipShare being another figure? I think there's a whole bunch of KPIs. And I also think, Tim, as we look at it's always good to look at some of our competition. Speaker 200:34:32And as we do, In the future, open up some new swim lanes for ourselves, in the product categories underneath EGM specifically. I think that that's going to help us pick up additional ship share. Not so long ago, we were really only in Really selling Portrait only. Now we're selling Portrait on the Spectra 483 and we're selling Curve on the Orion side. We'll continue to sort of like probe into new, as we like to say, the swim lanes in the EGM space. Speaker 200:35:06And I think as you see that unfold Over the next, we'll say, a year or so, you'll see sort of where the potential is for market share gains and just improvements overall. I really think it's going to be exciting times over the course of the second half of this year and moving into a good chunk of 2024. There's some good upside here, Chris. Speaker 600:35:33Okay. I'll take that Operator00:35:43Thank you. We currently have no further questions for today. So that concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect yourRead morePowered by