Ur-Energy Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 15, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to UR Energy, Inc. 2nd Quarter Earnings and Company Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Operator

Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Penny Goplerud. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you for joining us for our teleconference and webcast this afternoon. We are required to draw the attention of all of our participants to the legal disclaimers contained in this afternoon's slide presentation, which apply equally to our oral presentation today. At slide 2, you will find legal disclaimers with regard to forward looking statements, Risk factors and projections as well as other cautionary notes to investors. We ask that you read and consider these disclaimers carefully before investing in our As well, risk factors inherent in forward looking statements and projections are set forth and discussed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks Filed on March 6, 2023, with the U. S.

Speaker 1

Securities and Exchange on EDGAR and with the securities regulatory authorities in Canada on SEDAR. I would now like to introduce and turn the webcast presentation over to our Chairman and CEO, John Cash.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to UR Energy's Q2 2023 earnings call. It has been an exciting quarter for the company as we have successfully initiated ramp up in our second mine unit at Lost Creek And as demand for nuclear fuel and global geopolitical uncertainty continue to support the uranium price. We have revamped our corporate presentation for the purposes of this call to focus more on our finances and geopolitical risk. I hope you find it informative and useful. The photos here are of the ion exchange portion of the Lost Creek plant And the first shipment of Yellow Cake in the fall of 2013.

Speaker 2

We expect to get back to shipping uranium this fall. We encourage participants to review the disclaimer presented here and our filings, so you are aware of the risks associated with investing in the uranium industry and uranium mining in general and our projects. UR Energy has 2 flagship properties that are our primary focus. Lost Creek is our 1st in situ mine and is in South Central Wyoming. Shirley Basin is our 2nd plant in situ mine also in Wyoming that is fully licensed and construction ready.

Speaker 2

Moss Creek has been in operation now for almost exactly 10 years And has produced approximately £2,700,000 of U-three zero eight through 2022. As previously announced, we have been ramping up production again with commercial operations beginning in Header House 2-four in May of this year. Ramp up continues to progress and we have now established good head grade and flow from the first house. We intend to bring Header House 2-five online this followed by additional houses through the end of this year. The resource at Lost Creek is £11,900,000 of And indicated resource and £6,600,000 of inferred resource.

Speaker 2

As many of you are aware, Lost Creek has a well deserved reputation We're being a low cost producer and we believe as we work our way through ramp up to commercial production that we will return to low costs. I will talk more about production costs later. Lost Creek has a 14 year mine life with significant opportunity for exploration. We are aware of numerous roll fronts that have not yet been explored. The Lost Creek mine is licensed and to produce at a rate of £1,200,000 per year, while the processing plant is licensed and constructed to produce £2,200,000 per year.

Speaker 2

The delta between these two figures was intentional because we have always planned on expanding operations through additional mines or processing for competitors. It is our intent to bring loaded resin from the Shirley Basin mine once it is constructed to process at Lost Creek, so we don't need to build out a full processing plant. This will provide us significant capital savings. Our next planned project is Shirley Basin, which has all the licenses and permits for construction and operating in place. The Shirley Basin mine is licensed at £1,000,000 per year and the plant is licensed at £2,000,000 per year.

Speaker 2

However, as mentioned, we don't intend to build out a full plant. Instead, our intent is to build out a satellite facility and ship the resin to Lost Creek for processing. This will allow us to build out much more quickly and with significantly less capital. The resource at Shirley Basin is £8,800,000 of measured and indicated resource at a grade of 0.23 weight percent. Given dense historic drilling, there are no inferred pounds.

Speaker 2

Unlike Lost Creek, There is little opportunity for expansion within our existing footprint at Shirley Basin because the mineralized body has been completely and thoroughly drilled. We don't see this necessarily as a disadvantage. We view this as a cost saving since we won't need to expend funds for exploration and little delineation drilling is required. This allows us to go straight into production. In fact, We have already planned every mining pattern, header house, road and power line for the property based on existing drilling data.

Speaker 2

Interestingly, we believe Shirley Basin was the 1st commercial scale in situ uranium mine in the world. In 1963, the owner ran an experimental in situ mine and was able to recover well over £1,000,000 of uranium. We have all the records from the test work and we'll rely on that data to assist in design of the facility. The decision to build out and operate Shirley Basin will be predicated on signing long term contracts that derisk the capital expenditure. When sufficient contracts are in place, we believe we can build out the facility and have it in commercial operations within 24 months.

Speaker 2

We are very aware of supply chain limitations and our first step will be to identify long lead items and get them ordered. We expect that this will include electrical equipment such as transformers and motor control centers and other industrial instrumentation such as flow beaters. We previously announced the completion of our Casper combined services facility, which is adjacent to our company owned I'm happy to report that we have started building header houses in town, which will reduce travel time to and from the mine site, which will in turn improve safety, reduce emissions and fuel costs. These slides show the external and internal of Heder House 2-six 6, which is slated for production this fall. For those of you with a keen eye, you may notice that we have changed the style of flowmeters To a dramatically smaller system that is also much easier to wire in.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about the broader nuclear space, including supply and demand fundamentals and geopolitical risk. The demand for nuclear fuel is expected to grow significantly over the coming decades As more countries are moving to nuclear power for its carbon free attributes and for energy independence. The U. S. Gets about 20% of our electricity And 50% of our carbon free electricity from nuclear power.

Speaker 2

Southern Company just brought Vogtle Unit 3 in the commercial operation And Unit 4 is expected to come online late this year or early next. Beyond that, as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act, Many utilities are seeking reactor life extensions, power upgrades and extended time between fueling outages California's Governor Newsom is advocating for Diablo Canyon to extend its operation And in an unprecedented move, there is serious consideration of bringing the Palisades reactor in Michigan back online. Globally, the number of reactors on order and proposed is growing at a fast rate. There is also a move to design and construct small modular reactors With the idea that construction costs can be reduced by factory building small reactors. Several companies around the world, including NuScale, Rolls Royce And TerraPower have jumped into the fray.

Speaker 2

Of particular interest to Wyomingites, Bill Gates' company TerraPower and GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy Launched the Natrium SMR project with involvement by Berkshire Hathaway's Pacific Corp. They have announced plans In a recent poll, the Nuclear Energy Institute found that their members expect to have approximately 300 small modular reactors operating in the U. S. By 2,050. For context, their members include some very serious utilities such as Duke, Southern Company and Constellation.

Speaker 2

This may seem a bit optimistic, but even if just a fraction of these small reactors are realized, the additional demand for uranium will be material. TerraPower just announced their plans to build dozens of SMRs in England. Globally, acceptance of nuclear power is growing at an unprecedented rate. China is certainly the elephant in the room with stated plans construct 150 reactors within the next 15 years. China alone could be responsible for growing the current reactor fleet from 436 to 585.

Speaker 2

China currently has 24 reactors under construction and they just approved the siting of 6 more units. I won't read through this slide, but suffice it to say, the numerous countries are making strong moves toward nuclear power. The initial move toward nuclear power was based on a desire to reduce emissions. But post invasion of Ukraine, many countries are moving toward nuclear for Energy security in uncertain times. Support for nuclear power is growing in the U.

Speaker 2

S. As an increasing number of environmental Groups such as The Nature Conservancy, Climate Coalition, ClearPath and many others throw their support behind nuclear power. Support for nuclear power is also growing in the U. S. Congress as both parties in rare bipartisan alignment are pushing nuclear legislation For example, Congress has already passed a bill establishing the U.

Speaker 2

S. Uranium reserve and funded it at $75,000,000 The DOE was charged with establishing the program and in December of last year issued UR Energy a contract for £100,000 of uranium At a price of $64.47 a pound. Also of great importance to the industry is the passage of the Civil Nuclear Credit Program And the Inflation Reduction Act, which together have breathed new life into the industry. This is perhaps the most significant legislation impacting the nuclear industry Ever. Looking at pending legislation, 2 of our most staunch supporters are Senator Barrasso, A Republican from Wyoming and Senator Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia.

Speaker 2

Just a few days ago, Senators Barrasso and Manchin introduced the Nuclear Fuel Security Act as part of the National Defense Authorization Act or the NDAA. The Senate passed the bill by a vote of 96 to 3 in a strong indication of rare bipartisan support. The bill is designed to expedite domestic production of HALOOM, merge the U. S. Uranium and American assured fuel supply and encourage domestic production of uranium.

Speaker 2

The bill still needs to work its way through the House and across the President's desk. There is also pending legislation to cut off low enriched uranium imports from Russia. We expect this bill to be considered this fall. While nearly everyone agrees it's a bad idea to be supporting Russia by purchasing nuclear fuel from them, there is concern that Western suppliers We'll be unable to fill the gap created by sanctions. So it is unclear if this legislation will pass.

Speaker 2

The White House has also provided great support for the nuclear power industry and believes it will be difficult to reach our carbon emission goals about uranium supply and demand without touching on geopolitics. While Russia doesn't mine much uranium, they dominate global processing in the form of Conversion and enrichment. About 46% of primary supply is mined in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet state that still has close ties Russia. In fact, Russia has partial ownership of some of the largest uranium mines in Kazakhstan. As the next slide will show, The Western world has limited ability to replace Russia's processing or Kazakhstan's mine supplies.

Speaker 2

This is why the U. S. And European countries Have been unwilling to date to sanction low enriched uranium coming from Russia. To better quantify the supply risk, I performed an unscientific review of uranium company websites and the World Nuclear Association's online database. This table summarizes my findings.

Speaker 2

There are only 15 countries in the world that produce uranium and of those most production comes from the top 7 or 8 countries. About 76% of mine production is controlled by state owned enterprises such as Arano, Kesadamprom and Rose Adam. Unfortunately, a large percentage of production comes from countries that are aligned with the East instead of the West, which significantly adds to supply chain risk. The second table on the slide attempts to show the percentage of production that is Eastern These are simply my estimates from an optimistic and pessimistic view. I am not a geopolitical scientist, So I encourage you to run the numbers based on your own knowledge.

Speaker 2

Of important note to uranium investors, in my opinion, We have only one peer in the uranium mining space and that is Cameco. I am unaware of any other publicly traded companies With significant exposure to uranium prices that are currently mining uranium at a commercial level. I'm Excluding Kazatomprom because only 15% of their shares are publicly traded and BHP because of their relative exposure to uranium via mining at Olympic Dam is minimal compared to the value they realize from other commodities. Of course, this conclusion may change soon if other companies initiate production. By my estimates, again, based on an unscientific analysis, there are about 12 potentially serious companies who have announced plans to begin mining uranium within the next 5 years.

Speaker 2

Of those 12, perhaps 3 have projects of the scale, Technical certainty and jurisdictions necessary to succeed. The other 9 will likely face significant challenges due to the known Technical problems, economics, local opposition and or scale. Some of these 9 may succeed, but their path is difficult. The point to take away is that uranium mining is hard and the Western world will have a hard time responding in a timely manner to a supply crunch. For even the most advanced in situ projects that have been mothballed, it will likely take about a year to have Fill plant circuits, make deliveries and wait for assay at the conversion facility before making a sale.

Speaker 2

By then, a hotspot market may have evaporated. To support the risk hypothesis, Let's consider the top 10 producing mines of 22 and the respective risks to production and sales to the West. Most recently, the coup in Niger has raised concerns about production from the Sommelier mine, which produces about 4% to 5% of the world's uranium. Many long term followers of the uranium space will remember the Cigar Lake floods of 2,006,2008. Shipping logistics Have become problematic for Russian LEU and Kazakh uranium due to a severe lack of carriers and insurance providers.

Speaker 2

And this brings us back to the United States, where mine production over the past few years has been virtually non existent, Not enough to run even one of our 94 reactors. At UR Energy, we are working to change that situation as we ramp up production At Lost Creek. Lost Creek is a scalable mine with the opportunity to grow the existing resource by Exploring on 35,000 acres of contiguous land. As I mentioned earlier, Lost Creek has a reputation for being a low cost producer Due to several factors, including fantastic average recovery rates of 90%, which is much higher than the U. S.

Speaker 2

Industry average of 60% to 80%. Also, the royalty burden at Lost Creek averages less than 1%, which is much better than many other U. S. Projects that are encumbered with royalties The 3% to 8% or in some cases even higher. The map on this slide shows the Lost Creek project in blue Surrounded by additional projects we control in green.

Speaker 2

The topography in this area is relatively flat, so it will be technically feasible to pipeline additional resources Into the processing plant at Lost Creek, we are currently mining within the HJ geologic horizon. However, resources have been characterized in the FG and Kilometers horizons and mineralization has been identified in the L, M and N Horizons, but has not been characterized adequately to determine if it can be brought into compliant resources. In the future, we plan to explore known roll fronts in each of these horizons. This table shows actual statistics from Lost Creek For the years 2014 to 2019, it shows that our cash costs have been as low as $16.27 per pound when we optimize Our economies of scale. While inflation will likely prevent us from reaching these costs again, we believe we can stay relatively close to these values Going forward, with all in mine site cost of around $34 per pound.

Speaker 2

Additional economic analysis For both our Lost Creek and Shirley Basin projects can be found in our September 2022 reports, which are linked on our company website. Ramp Up is in full swing with HeaderHouse 2-four in full production. HeaderHouse 2-five is in construction and we plan to bring it online in September and follow that up with additional header houses this year. Also of significance, We have just completed casing deep disposal well 5 and completion work and testing will commence in the coming days. It will likely take several months to receive permission to use the well under the existing UIC Class 1 permit with the State of Wyoming.

Speaker 2

Ramp Up has been made possible by good planning to overcome numerous supply chain issues. We believe we have everything ordered or on hand for the next several header houses. We have been fortunate to retain several of our most experienced personnel who are now training our new staff. We still have a few positions open, But that is not interfering with production. When you are an in situ miner, it is easy to talk about green energy since we are the tip of the spear.

Speaker 2

The uranium resources that we plan to recover at Lost Creek and Shirley Basin when compared to coal fired power We'll offset approximately 312,000,000 metric tons of CO2, which is the equivalent of taking 67,500,000 cars off the road for a year. We are taking additional steps to lighten our environmental footprint through the use of the new Casper shop, Using in situ mining, which has a minimal and temporary impact on the land surface and by recycling water. We have already reduced our water consumption by recycling about 99.3% of the water we use, and we have a goal of recycling up 99.8 percent of the water we use by deploying advanced novel technologies that we are developing. Research and development has always been a priority for UR Energy, and the top four bullets highlight some of the successes we have already had. But we aren't resting on our laurels.

Speaker 2

We have embarked on developing a well casing and installation technique. Phase 1 field testing demonstrates 75% reduction in our drill rig time for injection wells. We have had to delay Phase 2 testing due to limited bandwidth during ramp up, but hope to get back to testing well development and injection capacity in the near future. As mentioned on the previous slide, we are also working on Advanced water treatment and filtration system to reduce wastewater generation. Turning to our Q2 financials.

Speaker 2

As of August 3, we had $63,700,000 of cash with a remaining inventory of £223,790 We expect to ship our 1st load of Yellow Cake since ramping back up in Q4. We are fortunate to work in Wyoming, where there is strong public and government support. Many of you will recall that we received a $34,000,000 loan from the state At 5.75 percent interest. As of early August, the remaining principal on the loan is $7,100,000 And we expect to make the final payment in October of next year. We have 3 multi year contracts in place With average pricing of about $62 per pound, which will result in revenue of about $220,000,000 Keep in mind that each contract has a small flex that may result in slightly higher or lower deliveries depending on the buyers' needs.

Speaker 2

For 2023, we expect to deliver an additional £180,000 in the contracts for total 2023 revenue of $17,300,000 In 2023, we expect the gross profit margin to be above 40%. In subsequent years, the contract book ranges from £600,000 to £700,000 per year through 2028. This represents only about 32% of our licensed mine capacity, so we have a lot of room to layer in additional sales contracts If prices continue to improve, which we believe is likely. In addition to revenue from the sale of uranium, we are also seeing small, but not insignificant revenues from interest income and waste disposal fees, which we expect to continue in the near future. Our shares outstanding totaled 264,700,000 with a market cap of around 278,000,000 We maintain a strong cash position of $63,700,000 Our share registry contains some of the most sophisticated names in the uranium space, which we believe is validation of our company and projects.

Speaker 2

We have outstanding liquidity and great analyst coverage in both the U. S. As we reach the end of the presentation, I would like to just hit on a few of the highlights once more. First, We remain cashed up, so we can see our way through ramp up and into steady revenues. We also have a ready to sell inventory of £224,000 that can be sold into contracts.

Speaker 2

Our goal is to ramp up Lost Creek to full production and build out and ramp up Shirley Basin As long term contracts justify, we believe it's a great time to invest in the uranium space with so many market catalysts in motion, Catalyst that UR Energy is well positioned to seize on. Thank you for your time. We will turn now to the Q and A portion of the webcast.

Operator

Your first question is coming from Heiko Ihle from H. C. Wainwright. Your line is live.

Speaker 2

Hey, Eric. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 3

Hope you guys are doing well.

Speaker 2

Hey, Heiko. It's good to hear from you.

Speaker 3

Always a pleasure. You went through this tangentially in your prepared remarks a little bit ago, but I'll try to take this a step further. There was a sentence in your release that intrigued me and made me pretty happy and I'm just going to call it here real quick. You state that your energy We continue to grow our long term sales book as the market continues to improve, ramp up production at Lost Creek and ultimately Shirley Basin. None of this is a particular surprise, But given that a lot of uranium sales stem from places that have meaningfully, meaningfully, meaningfully increased geopolitical risk factors over the last 2 years, We at least anticipate there to be a dual market in the longer term where North American uranium sells for a very meaningful premium.

Speaker 3

At least when looking at company valuations, that trend appears to have started already. Now building on all of that, what are your thoughts On how all of this will play out over the next few years and what measures such as long term offtake, similar agreements You think the firm will undergo to benefit from these factors, please?

Speaker 2

Heiko, it's a good question. Certainly something that is in the front of our thoughts and we're seeing that. We're seeing a bifurcated market already. I mean, we've already, to a limited degree, announced the sales price on those contracts Degree announced the sales price on those contracts that we've gotten, and you can see that they average well above Existing spot or long term price. So we're already seeing that bifurcation in the market.

Speaker 2

And it looks like Western production, U. S. Production is worth several dollars a pound more than production from areas that may be Exposed to more geopolitical risk. And so, we look forward to seeing that more as we go forward. And I would comment too, Heiko, that not only are we getting a lot of inbounds from U.

Speaker 2

S. Utilities, We are seeing increasing interest from other global players because it's not just an issue for the U. S. Everyone around the world recognizes Utilities were struggling with profitability, and so they were willing to go for the lowest price no matter the geopolitical risk. They felt like they had to do that.

Speaker 2

But now, especially the U. S. Utilities are moving into profitability because of the Inflation Reduction Act and other actions that Congress has taken. And as they move into that profitability, they are much more interested in diversifying that portfolio of offtake agreements to reduce the risk. So Yes.

Speaker 2

Heiko, I think we're going to continue to see that, and maybe increasingly so. We'll see what happens in Niger. We'll see what happens with Russia, Ukraine. We'll see if Kazakhstan gets embroiled in that in any way via sanctions or Russia Strong arming that nation as well. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3

Fair enough. Next question is a lot shorter. Looking at the U. S. DOE uranium reserve, how scalable is this?

Speaker 3

Given I Assume that there is going to be some sort of import restrictions in some capacity, at least for some originations. How much do you think your firm could ultimately sell into this program over the next 5 or 10 years? I mean, you gave some shorter term estimates, but walk with me through the next Okay, if you could.

Speaker 2

Yes. Let's start with the legislation itself. The previous uranium reserve that was approved by during the Trump administration Passed by Congress, signed into law by Trump, the funding on that has expired. That was $75,000,000 We were able to grab a good piece of that. We sold £100,000 into that uranium reserve, for $64.47 a pound, made delivery early this year and have been paid for that.

Speaker 2

But at this point, funding under that program is done. There is no more funding. Having said all of that, Senator Barrasso, Senator Manchin, Senator Reich, they all work together, Republicans and Democrats alike, to get legislation passed as an amendment to the NDAA, The National Defense Authorization Act that called for combining the uranium reserve with the American assured fuel supply. And so that was passed by a very large margin. It still needs to go through a couple of more layers of approval through Congress and across desk at the White House, but if that's passed, it will combine those 2.

Speaker 2

We're hopeful that the DOE will get additional funding and that we'll be able to participate in that. So until funding is allocated and that program is stood up, it's hard to really Speculate about our abilities to participate in it. But having said all that, if it is passed and funded, we would love to be able to sell more pounds That is not spoken for. So we have significant ability to continue to ramp up production at Lost Creek and especially at Shirley Basin going forward. We would love to sell a portion of those pounds to the U.

Speaker 2

S. Government.

Speaker 3

That's helpful. Thank you so much. I'll get back in queue.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Ike.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Mike Kozak from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is live.

Speaker 4

Hey, John. Thanks for hosting the call. Just a couple of questions from me. First, do you think commercial production, And when I say that, I mean at the call it £600,000 per year run rate. Do you think that's an achievable milestone at Lost Creek by year end this year?

Speaker 2

So we're definitely working toward that. Our objective for this calendar year is to produce enough to sell into our contracts and we're moving toward that. We still have a ways to go to ramp up to get to £600,000 for next year. But is it possible? Yes, absolutely possible.

Speaker 2

We're not there yet, and we got a little ways to go, but it's only August. We have a lot of summer left and moving into fall, And we're keeping Steve Hatton, our Chief Operating Officer, very busy ramping up. So, yes, it's absolutely possible for us to do that. But again, our goal is not to produce 600,000 this year. Our goal is to produce roughly 180,000 this year.

Speaker 2

But moving into next year, Moving to that £600,000 a year range, it's important for us to get to economies of scale and that's why we want to ramp up to that level and continue to move north Of that as we are able to sign in additional sales contracts.

Speaker 4

That's great. Thank you. And that kind of dovetails into my second question, which was You added £100,000 a year to the contract book in Q2. So my question was, what level of contract coverage Would you want to see before you kind of fully commit to the, call it, 1,000,000 to 1,200,000 pound per year of full licensed run rate At Lost Creek, do you want to get to fully £1,000,000 a year contracted or 75% of that, 80% of that? How should I think about that coverage?

Speaker 2

Yes. So it's always our objective to match production at Lost Creek and ultimately at Shirley Basin with our contract book. So if we're contracted out at $900,000 that's what we want to hit. We'll probably try to give ourselves a little bit of buffer there, maybe 5%, 10%, 15% buffer. That way, if we run into any challenges, regulatory, wildlife, you name it, That we've got a little bit of inventory that we can rely on and we like having that overage.

Speaker 2

But really, we're just going to try to hit that contract number fairly going forward. And that's also true as we move into Shirley Basin. We'd like to sell effectively Max out production at Lost Creek and then begin to contract out for production at Shirley and justify the ramp up there as well.

Speaker 4

Okay, very good. Thanks for that. I'll hop back in queue.

Speaker 2

All right. Good to hear from you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Joseph Reagor from Roth MKM. Your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hey, John and team, thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker 3

Most of what I wanted

Speaker 5

to touch on was already hit on by the previous two There's this news out about by the administration making Basically, a moratorium on mining on a massive amount of land in Arizona. How do you guys look at decisions like that by Neil, the U. S. Government where on one hand, they want this clean energy transition, but on the other hand, they don't want Conventional mining and does it not benefit you because you're not a conventional miner in your mind or does it harm you because they're anti mining?

Speaker 2

Well, certainly, it was the wrong move. The area that's been removed from uranium mining is not in the Grand Canyon. I think that is It's a complete misstatement that you hear a lot in the news that it's Grand Canyon. It's not Grand Canyon. It's an area outside the Grand Canyon.

Speaker 2

But I would also point out that existing claims will have to be honored. They're grandfathered in. So the companies that are there and have well established claims, It won't affect their rights directly. However, I suspect it will make things a little more challenging trying to work within an area like that and with that designation. So, but certainly the wrong move.

Speaker 2

It is frustrating where we have such tremendous support for nuclear energy From Republicans and Democrats in the White House, but when it comes to the fuel end of things, There tends to be less support because it involves mining. Glad to say we're not working in that area. We have never worked in that area. It's Not our intention to move into that vicinity where there is such opposition. And I would further add that we're utilizing the in situ technology.

Speaker 2

So the impact to the land that we have is minimal and it's 100% reversible. And so we'll just throw those two items out there. But no, it is really frustrating that the White House took that step. Certainly, it's not good for some of our U. S.

Speaker 2

Competitors In the long run, but hopefully with additional education and time, maybe we can bring the White House around to supporting mining more robustly. But Joe, I appreciate that question. It's a very appropriate question given that that just happened a few days ago.

Speaker 5

Thanks for the color there. Kind of building on the back of that, you got a lot on your plate with the ramp up at Lost Creek. You've got Shirley Basin after that. Looking further out, would you guys move on to more U. S.

Speaker 5

Potential expansion, maybe lost soldiers or something like that? Or would you guys look to maybe Potentially acquire something but not in the U. S, maybe in Canada, where it seems like there's a little bit more understanding that you need the mining to?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I think the answer on both is yes. We are looking to expand operations beyond Lost Creek In Shirley Basin, we do have a number of exploration properties and development properties that we hold in our portfolio. I think it would behoove us to continue to take a hard look at Lost Creek. We have a number of properties surrounding it where we have known mineralization And resource and tremendous opportunity to grow that resource.

Speaker 2

Over the years, we've done a lot of exploration in those areas. Every program, we've been successful at finding significant additional resources and bringing them into compliance. So before we go too far away from Lost Creek and spend a lot of money buying another project in the U. S, especially an exploration project. I think we have a lot of green pasture in our immediate vicinity that we need to work on.

Speaker 2

Having said that, We control that already. That's not going to go anywhere. So if and when opportunities come up to grow resources in the U. S, Canada or other first world countries where they are safe jurisdictions, where they have well established Regulatory regimes to regulate mining, and they have quality resources that we believe we can mine profitably Now or in the near term, then we're certainly interested in that and that's certainly on the table and we'll take a hard look at that. We've been very disciplined Since the beginning of this company, our Board has been very disciplined when it comes to M and A.

Speaker 2

The only properties we've ever picked up are the ones We felt like we could progress to economic production and we're going to remain disciplined when it comes to that. So hopefully that answers your question, Joe.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you for the well thought out answer there. That covers my questions. I'll turn it over.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Chris Thompson from PI Financial.

Speaker 2

Hey, Chris, you can go ahead.

Operator

And Chris Thompson, your line is live. At this time, we'll be taking questions through the webcast. If you're listening to the webcast, you can submit questions by clicking on the Ask

Speaker 2

All right. We must have done a good job in the presentation. Not seeing any questions come up on the web portion. We can give it another few seconds here to see if anybody wants to type in any questions there. Okay.

Speaker 2

I've got a question here. Are you open to market related contracts as well? That's an interesting question and it's something that we struggle with internally all the time. The first three contracts that we have in place are effectively base price With an escalation in each of them that essentially attempts to mimic inflation. We're really happy with those contracts Because they've locked in some good revenues going forward, and we know exactly what they're going to be or very close.

Speaker 2

There is a flex involved, We know very close to what the revenue is going to be, so we like those. However, going forward, we recognize that the market prices are improving. We're a little bit hesitant to lock in long term contracts in a rising market. So yes, we would be very interested to entertain Contracts that have a market related provision going forward. And so our conversations with utilities, Some of them like the base escalated, some like market related, some like combinations of them.

Speaker 2

So it depends on the utility we're in discussions with. But really to more directly answer your question, yes, we are interested in market related contracts going forward. All right. Are there any other questions out there?

Speaker 4

All right.

Speaker 2

If I'm operating the system correctly, I'm not seeing any additional questions. So with that, we'll just begin to wrap things up here. I appreciate everyone listening in. And As you guys all know, I'm very easy to get a hold of, so feel free to e mail me or give me a call directly if you have any further questions that you didn't think of during the conference call here. We'd be glad to pick up the conversation.

Speaker 2

But just would like to highlight right now that we are extremely well positioned. We're Happy with where we are in the ramp up. Things are progressing. We have a ways to go before we get to that 600,000 pound mark that we've talked about, But we are well on our way and moving forward. And just so many catalysts right now in the uranium space and UR Energy We're cashed up.

Speaker 2

We're ready to seize on those catalysts as they evolve. So with that, I'll return the balance of the afternoon to everyone. Hope You enjoy the rest of your day and thank you again for participating.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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Earnings Conference Call
Ur-Energy Q2 2023
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