NYSE:DTC Solo Brands Q2 2024 Earnings Report $0.09 -0.01 (-7.54%) As of 04/22/2025 This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Solo Brands EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS $0.09Beat/MissMissed by -$0.07One Year Ago EPS$0.15Solo Brands Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$131.55 millionExpected Revenue$128.50 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.05 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASolo Brands Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/7/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 7, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsSolo Brands' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Solo Brands Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to today's Solar Brands Inc. 2nd Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Financial Results Call. My name is Seb, and I'll be the operator for your call today. I will now hand the floor to Bruce Williams to begin the call. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:24Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call to discuss SOLO Brands' 2nd quarter results, which we released this morning and can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Today's call will be hosted by Chief Executive Officer, Chris Metz and Chief Financial Officer, Laura Coffey. Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are based on current management expectations. These may include, without limitation, predictions, expectations, targets or estimates, including regarding our anticipated financial performance, business plans and objectives, future events and developments. Speaker 100:01:15Actual results could differ materially from those mentioned. These forward looking statements also involve substantial risks and uncertainties, some of which may be outside of our control and that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. These risks and uncertainties, among others, are discussed in our filings with the SEC. We encourage you to review these filings for a discussion of these risks, including our soon to be filed quarterly report on Form 10Q and will be available on the Investors portion of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Speaker 100:01:50You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. These statements are made only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise them for any new information except as required by law. This call will also contain certain non GAAP financial measures, net income as adjusted, diluted earnings per share as adjusted, gross margin as adjusted, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, which we believe are some useful supplemental measures that assist in evaluating our ability to generate earnings, provide consistency and comparability with our past performance and facilitate period to period comparisons of our core operating results and the results of peer companies. Reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and definitions of these indicators are included in our earnings release, which will be available in the Investor portion of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Speaker 100:02:48Now I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:53Thank you, Bruce, and thank you all for joining us today. I will begin by discussing our Q2 performance and provide an update on our SOLO brand strategic plan and priorities. Lastly, I will turn the call over to Laura to discuss our financial results in more detail and our outlook for fiscal 2024. We are pleased with our 2nd quarter results as total revenues increased modestly year over year for the quarter. By channel, direct to consumer declined 0.9% as this channel continues to generate sequential improvement over the prior 2 quarters. Speaker 200:03:32We were particularly pleased with our wholesale results as revenues increased 4.8 percent despite continued difficult comparisons. In addition, we generated healthy low double digit EBITDA margins for the quarter despite planned investments in people, processes and capabilities that will provide the foundation that is needed to drive sustainable growth over the long term. While we are pleased with our 2nd quarter results and confident in the long term growth opportunities for solo brands, we recognize that consumers are facing a number of near term headwinds and demand for large ticket consumer durables remains challenging. Quarter to date, we are seeing softer than expected traffic through our direct channel. As such, we believe it is prudent to update our guidance to reflect the current trends. Speaker 200:04:25Laura will share with you shortly more color on our full year guidance. Now, I'd like to give an update on the SOLO brand strategic plan that we embarked upon shortly after I joined the company that allowed us to evaluate the full potential of our current business. The results of this in-depth strategic analysis confirm my conviction that our brands have significant opportunities to continue to gain market share within their respective categories and that we have a long runway of growth ahead of us. We have clearly identified several strengths of the company, highlighted by 1, we have incredibly strong brands with a passionate, loyal and high value customer base 2, our brands are leaders in the premium segments of their markets with a long term opportunity to grow into additional categories and expand our TAM. And 3, we are building the infrastructure to create a highly scalable model that will drive long term margins and returns on capital. Speaker 200:05:34First, I want to provide a summary of the consumer insight work that will guide our strategic plan and will inform our decisions regarding adjacencies and expansion of our TAM. We conducted the most in-depth consumer segmentation analysis that our company has ever done, speaking to over 2,000 consumers. Within Stove, Solo Stove's Net Promoter Score was incredibly high, putting us in the top 1 percentile in the outdoor goods market and leads in unaided brand awareness compared to our direct competitors. Walking in, I believe that the Solo Stove brand was strong, but frankly, I was pleasantly surprised to see just how strong it truly is. We have a premium customer base as the average household income of our customers is near 200,000 dollars which is 2 times the outdoor goods market. Speaker 200:06:30This consumer insight work will inform our strategic approach to pricing, as well as how to leverage our strong brand characteristics to expand our TAM by entering into near term adjacent categories. Within Chubbies, we know that we play in a larger but highly fragmented market. However, we are pleased with our share position within our core categories with ample opportunities to grow. Similar to Stowe, we have a premium customer that has a household income of approximately 140,000 dollars that is 1.4 times the menswear market. We believe that we have room for growth as we increase our brand awareness and capitalize on our strong Net Promoter Score for the brand. Speaker 200:07:16We believe that executing on our long term strategic pillars will be a multiyear process. This year, 2024, is about stabilizing the business, particularly in the direct channel and investing in capabilities. At SoloStope, we welcomed in a new Senior Vice President of Direct to Consumer E Commerce, who brings a wealth of relevant experience, most recently at SharkNinja. We are also reinvigorating our product innovation engine by laying the groundwork build out a multi year product pipeline that will generate innovation across platforms. In Q2, we welcomed in the new Senior Vice President of Product Development for Solo Stove, who also brings a wealth of relevant experience, having spent much time at innovative companies such as Helen of Troy, TTi and Bosch. Speaker 200:08:08In fact, this new leader and I just returned from a very productive trip to Asia with our product development team, looking at new product opportunities. Next, we are enhancing our product development ecosystem, which means that each new product introduction will be supplemented by consumer insight research, robust go to market marketing, as well as channel distribution strategies. We will have multiple exciting new products in Solo Stove to launch beginning in 2025. In fact, some of these new product introductions will begin to expand our TAM as we innovate into near adjacent categories outside of our core fire pit and pizza oven categories within Solo Stove. We believe that the investments we are making in people and infrastructure will position us to return to revenue growth, expand our margins and begin to introduce multiple new product innovations starting in 2025. Speaker 200:09:04As part of our strategic plan, we see substantial opportunities to continue to expand our omnichannel distribution. In fact, our consumer research has informed us that about 50% of consumers are purchasing their products in physical stores and not just online. This leads us to believe that our strategy of partnering with the right retailers to expand our overall revenue line is a smart approach. We don't believe this is an eitheror. We need to expand both our DTC and retail business. Speaker 200:09:37Our research supports this, and you will see us continue down this path. A smaller but still important part of reaching consumers where they shop is continuing to selectively open our owned retail footprint within Chubby's. During the Q2, we opened 3 new Chubby's stores. At our New Woodlands, Texas location, we experienced our largest grand opening weekend to date. Today, we have 10 Chubby's stores and plan to open an additional 2 stores by year end. Speaker 200:10:09Lastly, as part of our strategic plan, we see opportunities to leverage our scale across our platform to drive EBITDA margin expansion. Specifically, we will leverage our very strong existing fulfillment and procurement capabilities and scale our supply chain network to further reduce delivery and carrying costs. A few operational examples that help support our increasingly higher margins are: 1, our fulfillment centers are shipping greater than 99% picking accuracy 2, our procurement team continues to collaborate with our suppliers to drive net productivity, offsetting inflationary pressures and 3, our fulfillment team just signed a new contract with a leading packaged goods delivery company that will offer significant improvement in our delivery costs. This leverage will only grow as we expand Solo Stove into categories beyond fire pits and pizza ovens. In summary, despite a more challenging consumer environment, I couldn't be more encouraged with the progress we are making in returning solo brands to stronger performance, consistent with the best in class outdoor companies. Speaker 200:11:23We are building out our capabilities, ushering in incredible new talent, investing in much needed systems and adding robust repeatable processes. We believe the work we are doing to improve our capabilities and performance will pay dividends and drive long term sustainable growth. All of this leads me to believe we continue to march down the path to success as we move through our rebuild year of 2024. I will now turn the call over to Laura. Speaker 300:11:54Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will walk you through our Q2 results and provide our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2020 4. Despite a tough macro backdrop where the consumer continues to face pressures, we are highly focused on the areas we can't control. We are working to stabilize our business while investing to strengthen our infrastructure. We believe that this ongoing work as well as executing against our solo brand strategic plan will position us to drive long term shareholder value. Speaker 300:12:28Turning to our quarterly results. 2nd quarter sales were $131,600,000 increasing 0.5% compared to a year ago as sales growth in retail offset softer sales trends in our direct to consumer channel. In the direct channel, revenues declined 0.9 percent to $98,800,000 in the 2nd quarter, primarily due to lower site traffic. Retail revenues increased 4.8 percent to $32,800,000 driven by an increased order volume, just the result of continued growth with our strategic retail partners. We are particularly pleased that we were able to generate sales growth against a difficult sales comparison of +57 percent during the comparable period last year. Speaker 300:13:18Turning to gross margin. Our gross margin decreased 60 basis points to 62.8%, primarily the result of inventory fair value impact from the 2023 acquisition. Adjusted gross margin, which excludes this impact, was 63.6% flat to last year. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the quarter increased to $70,800,000 compared to 63 $500,000 a year ago. As a percentage of sales, SG and A expense increased to 53.8% of sales compared to 48.5 percent a year ago, primarily due to increased distribution expenses related to elevating shipping costs from higher transaction volumes associated with the SKU mix to more bundles, higher marketing expenses, increases in professional and information technology investments to support future growth. Speaker 300:14:162nd quarter net loss was $4,000,000 and adjusted net income was $6,100,000 and adjusted EBITDA was $15,500,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.7%. Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of the period, we had $20,100,000 in cash and cash equivalents. As of June 30, we had $75,000,000 in outstanding borrowings under the revolving credit facility and $88,800,000 under the term loan agreement. The borrowing capacity on the revolving credit facility was $350,000,000 as of June 30, leaving $274,000,000 of availability and our net leverage ratio was 3.3x. Speaker 300:15:02We remain focused on disciplined inventory management and are pleased with the composition of our current inventory levels. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $100,800,000 down 11.3% from a year ago. Moving to our outlook. We are pleased with our first half performance and the progress we are making on our turnaround plan. However, the macro environment remains challenging. Speaker 300:15:28Our quarter to date trends have softened and while approximately 60% of our business will come in the back half of the year, we believe it is prudent to be cautious in our full year guidance given our current run rate. As such, we expect fiscal 2024 revenue to be in the range of $470,000,000 to 490,000,000 dollars We now expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be in the range of 9% to 10% as we continue to invest in our capabilities and infrastructure that will lay the foundation for long term success. Turning to the second half, we expect the Q3 to be our most challenging quarter of the year due to very difficult comparisons in our retail channel and current trends in our direct to consumer. As a reminder, we are lapping a onetime trade credit agreement in which we recognized $7,200,000 in retail revenues during the Q3 of 2023. We continue to believe the Q4 will be our strongest quarter of the year, consistent with our typical seasonal pattern. Speaker 300:16:30This expectation is bolstered by our 1st full funnel marketing campaign, which begins in August as well as several small product launches. In closing, while the macro environment remains challenging in the near term, we are focused on our controllables and we are pleased with continued strength of our brand. We are making progress on our initiatives and are confident we have the strategies in place to position us for long term growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to begin Q and A. Operator00:17:04Thank Our first question comes from Jason Bender at Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:20Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Chris, just to start, thinking about the risk of a sharper macro turndown in the U. S, which has become more topical in days of late, I was curious if you think you can still drive this new long term strategic plan in a hard landing scenario? Speaker 400:17:46And if so, what really gives you that confidence? And related to that, are there parts of the portfolio in a hard landing scenario, either from a brand standpoint or a product standpoint that you see as being more at risk in potentially places where you would need to make more meaningful changes? Speaker 200:18:11Yes. So Jason, it's certainly a relevant question, insightful question and something that we've given an awful lot of thought to in terms of scenario planning. So I will say, first, we are in the deepest part of our turnaround, and we've guided to a business that is still generating historically high gross margins in the low 60s, which I think puts us in the best company within our peer group. And we're still generating EBITDA margins of 9% to 10%. And although our leverage ratio has increased a bit, we have an incredible amount of free availability and a balance sheet that allows us to continue to invest while we generate returns. Speaker 200:19:00So the focus of our team on the strategic plan is to, 1, create some innovation and excitement that compel consumers to buy products. And some of these new products, Jason, are going to be at price points with features and benefits that will allow people to lean in, where we haven't had that newness to date. Part of our consumer research has also shared with us that we have some price setting and some price getting that we feel like has been left on the table, if you will. So a lot of what we've uncovered in our insight work is not just strategic intents that we want to lean into that we feel like will grow our margins and our top line, but it's also frankly just better execution. So although we're seeing down traffic as an example on our online direct to consumer website, we know that our website needs to be refreshed. Speaker 200:20:06It doesn't give the shopper the experience that we need it to be. We know that the marketing campaigns that we've run over the past couple of years hasn't been as effective as they should be. These are all the fixes we're putting in place that would suggest that we don't need just a rosy environment to show improvements. A lot of this is just down to us executing better and growing our business. Now the other thing that I'll say that the consumer insight supported was, as I mentioned, we talked over 2,000 consumers. Speaker 200:20:45And in that research, it came back and said, hey, your brand is so strong, your net promoter score on a double blind basis puts you in the top 1% of all outdoor products brands, that allows you to expand into near adjacencies. Those near adjacencies that you expand into, consumers suggested that we could and should be the number 2, number 3 players in those categories. What this does is expands our TAM by 4 to 5 times. So we've got a much bigger area in which we're playing to grab share than we've had in the past. So listen, we're not predicting big changes in the macro environment, but we are preparing a business and we feel like we've got the tools around us to succeed regardless of the macroeconomic conditions. Speaker 400:21:34Got it. That's helpful color. And related to that and also the softer quarter to date trends you're seeing in 3Q, could you give us an update on the promotional environment? Obviously, you've leaned more heavily into bundling. But we've heard from some other companies that the promotional environment in general is increasing. Speaker 400:22:02Some retailers are still over inventoried and destocking. So curious what you're seeing, 1. But 2, given the macro backdrop and the quarter to date trends, how is that informing your decision not only to drive bundling, but also potential peer discounting? And what the depth and breadth of that looks like embedded in your outlook for the second half? Thanks. Speaker 200:22:28Yes. So Jason, we you can see this in our gross margin line. We have used bundling to help offset some of the promotions and discounts that maybe you're seeing from others in the space. And so we've mentioned that the bundling has increased our fulfillment and some of our shipping costs, and we have ways to improve that. But we've historically been pretty promotional. Speaker 200:22:58And I think part of the opportunity for us is to create an environment where we're frankly less promotional and not every day low low discounting. So we have factored in kind of business as usual from a discount and promotional environment, which has been heightened this year. That's all factored into our back half guidance. But I honestly believe that we can improve by offering a better shopping environment by a better value to our consumers in ways that don't necessarily create an erosion to our margin line. Speaker 400:23:39Got it. Appreciate that detail. I'll pass it on from here. Speaker 200:23:44Thanks, Jeez. Operator00:23:46Our next question comes from Anna Gleskin from B. Riley. Anna, please go ahead. Speaker 500:23:54Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I'd like to touch base on Chubby's wholesale or distribution gains have been a big driver of growth over the past few years, I believe. Can you speak to appetite from retailers to take on the brand or expand the brand into more of the store fleet at this point? Speaker 200:24:18Yes. So, Ann, as you've heard me in previous earnings calls, I've highlighted the fact that Chubby's is one of the most exciting young men's brands, apparel brands in the U. S. Today. I continue to believe that. Speaker 200:24:34And that's echoed by our key customers. So as you've rightly pointed out, we've grown with door count gains with some of our key retailers. The POS that we've seen from these retailers year to date continues to be strong. And we supplemented that with obviously our direct to consumer efforts, which is really how the brand started. So we really, really like the position that Chubby's is in. Speaker 200:25:02It's grown as 1st and foremost as a swim trunk brand. We've expanded into shorts and now we're expanding into other categories where we're starting to see some initial success with our key retailers. So you'll see our key retailers like Dick's Sporting Goods being a good example where if you walk into their house of sports concept, which is a fast growing concept, we've got a wall of Chubbies that is the envy of a lot of other vendors. And we partnered with them in a very strong way as we have with other key retailers like Scheels and others and some of the specialty retailers that are so important to us. We partnered in a way that we fully expect to continue to grow the Chubbies brand, both through our core assortment as well as through extended assortment given the initial success we're starting to see. Speaker 500:25:59Got it. Thanks for that, Chris. And then turning back to Solu, so helpful color from the consumer insights. As you look at the quarter to date performance, are you seeing shifts within the mix? Are people trading down or is the lower end underperforming as consumers who gravitate toward the premium are naturally less impacted by inflation and other consumer headwinds? Speaker 500:26:25Just any color there. Speaker 200:26:28Well, it's an interesting question, Anna. And the what we're seeing every day is that our average order value or AOV continues to be strong and it's not reducing, which is somewhat counterintuitive given what we're seeing in the economy and giving your comments about the consumer being pinched. And the reason for that is because we're offering value in the bundles. So it creates a win win. We create some value for our consumers, but we're also able to drive a higher average order value that you don't see compress our margins as much as, say, a discounting or promotional environment. Speaker 200:27:10So it's something that we want to continue to refresh to create newness in these bundles as we go forward. And I really anticipate that given some of the newness you'll see from us over the next 12 months, it's only going to enhance our ability to drive value to the consumer through bundling and newness of products. But no question, I mean, it's a weakening of the environment. We've seen it in July and the beginning of August, but we continue to drive bundles as a way to create value. Speaker 500:27:47Great. That's it for me. Thanks. Speaker 200:27:52Thanks, Jan. Operator00:27:54Our next question is from Ryan Sigdahl from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead, Ryan. Speaker 600:28:01Hey, good morning, guys. I want to start with that survey you did of 2,000 consumers. Were those past buyers or of an existing customers of Solo or I guess were they a random samples of just general people? I guess the reason I ask is from what I can tell is everyone that owns a SOLO product pretty unanimously love them. But there's a wide audience that doesn't know about it. Speaker 600:28:27So that's, I guess, where I'm curious what the sample size was? Speaker 200:28:32Yes, Ryan, it's a really good question. So I'll start first by saying, our customer service team, our customer experience team has always measured our Net Promoter Score. And that comes in the form of talking to our people who have just literally bought a solo store within the last 60 days. Well, of course, they're going to be happy most likely, right? So our net promoter score has always been high. Speaker 200:29:00This is the first time we've gone out to a sample of 2,000 consumers across a broad array of demographics. They had no idea who we were. And we talked to existing consumers, lapsed consumers, brand new consumers and consumers that weren't even frankly interested in the category itself. So we call it a double blind survey, if you will. And the number was over 2,200 consumers. Speaker 200:29:30And what came back was a net promoter score that was incredibly high. I knew we had a strong brand when I walked in the door. I just didn't realize how strong our brand is. And that was one of the pleasant surprises coming out of the research, which really informs us that we do have permission as we continue to ask questions in these research We have permission from consumers to move into near adjacent categories where either 1, they already think we're in the category and we're not or 2, said, hey, if you were to get into those categories, we think you ought to be a number 2 or number 3 share player. So very, very exciting and it was done in the best way you possibly could. Speaker 200:30:17We hired one of the best consumer research firms to help us make sure that as we gather the consumer insight, we could really hone into who our core consumer is, who our secondary consumer is, who our tertiary consumer is, where everything about them, so that we have a persona that we know how to develop product against and how to market against that persona. Speaker 600:30:45Helpful. And then for my follow-up question, just curious if you're seeing any new or outsized competition, namely from China and you see Timu and others out there with kind of knock off very, very cheap product. But how much of that is impacting you guys right now versus just general macro concern as you look at the back half of the Speaker 200:31:03year? Yes, Ryan, it's much more macro. I mean, if you walk into all of our retail channels, there's I mean, we are the market, if you will. You go online where you're going to have an endless aisle. You got some of the marketplaces that will bring in some of less expensive Chinese product or what have you. Speaker 200:31:26And clearly, they're getting a small portion of the market. Differences in the products with online reviews and postings and product reviews and what have you, I think it almost helps us more than it hurts us given what we're seeing in the marketplaces. But we still predominantly are the market. We made the market when we introduced the product as Solo Stove years ago. And I think what you'll see from us in 2025 and beyond is we're going to continue to reinvent the market and give consumers a reason to purchase a new fire pit or a new pizza oven or what have you. Speaker 200:32:14Much like golf companies will give their consumers a reason to go buy a new driver because you can hit it 5 or 10 yards further, we're going to give our consumers for the first time ever a reason to buy a new fire pit because we're going to create newness in the category, something that we haven't done or frankly needed to date, but we do need as we move forward. Speaker 600:32:38Thanks, Chris. Good luck, Speaker 200:32:39guys. Thanks, Operator00:32:43Brian. Our next question is from Brian McNamara at Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead, Brian. Speaker 500:32:51Good morning. This is Madison Callanan on for Brian. Thanks for taking our questions. I know we already talked about chubbies in wholesale, but do you have any additional color on solo stove and wholesale? Are you losing any partners or partner doors? Speaker 500:33:08Or are retailers being hesitant with orders? Thanks. Speaker 200:33:13Sure. No, we still have a lot of runway in front of us, Madison, in wholesale or what we call our retail channel. So the retail channel has been a lot about partnering with retailers and expanding those doors. But if you think hard about some of the retail channels we're not in today, like call the homeware or hardware improvement center channel. We're not even in that channel today. Speaker 200:33:39So there's channels that we don't participate in. There's doors of some of our key customers that we don't participate in. And so there's a clear runway for continued growth. Now I mentioned in my prepared remarks that the consumer insight research informed us that about half the market products are purchased in retail stores. So we know we're over indexed. Speaker 200:34:06We know we need to continue to expand into the retail format. But again, as I've said before, we don't think this is an eitheror. We think we can stabilize our D2C business and you've seen it with the sequential improvements quarter by quarter that we've made. And we think as we move into 2025, we should be able to grow both simultaneously. Now one of the things that we've made, I've talked a lot about talent, capabilities, processes, systems that we're investing in. Speaker 200:34:34One of the areas that we've invested in, frankly, is our retail sales team. We didn't have that because we grew so fast over the last 18 months in retail. We didn't have the support network to sit down with our big retail customers and be planful with the products that we bring in, making sure that we bring in maybe channel specific products to avoid channel conflicts. We tie together sell through marketing campaigns with those products and those customers. And we're just much more thoughtful and planful. Speaker 200:35:08It's hurt us a little bit this year because we didn't have that plan walking into the year. And as soon as I discovered it, we started building against that. So I think what you'll see from us on the retail wholesale side is better plans, better execution. And I think as we move into 2025, even better results. Speaker 500:35:32Great. That's super helpful. And then, any additional color on, I know you talked a little bit about like marketing being ineffective, but any color on the new marketing agency or things you're excited about to get DTC sales stronger outside of the macro? Thanks. Speaker 200:35:52Sure, Madison. Yes, so we've we started to make adjustments to our marketing mix to spend on a broader set of channels and with a different set of tactics to drive better efficiency of our media spend. I mean, this new approach is enabling us to be more nimble in managing our marketing spend as the external environment continues to be more challenging to navigate. Now I mentioned the snoop campaign that we're starting. I mean, this campaign is what I would call true 360 degree marketing campaign. Speaker 200:36:26It will fuel activation plans across different creative communications. It will feed into our website, our marketplaces, our retail stores. And so there's dramatic differences between this year's approach and last year's approach. So last year, we began in kind of that November timeframe. This year, we're beginning in August. Speaker 200:36:50So August 20, you'll see us start to feed the top of the tunnel our funnel rather. And as we start to move into September, our key selling seasons into October, November, you'll see us start to migrate down that funnel and create more of a conversion focused plan during our key selling season in Q4. So we've made a lot of changes and you'll start to see this come to fruition here as we move into the Q4. Now one of the key changes, and I mentioned it before, is our consumer shopping experience online is not where it needs to be, particularly with our website. We said when I first walked in that we made a choice to change platforms to salesforce.com and we're working very, very hard to bring that online next year. Speaker 200:37:42In the first hopefully, in the first the second quarter, it will be fully online. It will create a much, much easier, much more exciting shopping experience for our consumers. So, continual improvements in the marketing area. We brought in a cadre of just wonderful people with great talent, great experience that are just starting to come up to speed and they'll be hitting stride as we move through the end of this year. So excited about some of the green shoots that I'm seeing in that area. Speaker 500:38:16Great. Thanks so much. Operator00:38:36We have no further questions on the call. So I'll hand the floor back to management. Speaker 200:38:41Well, thank you, everyone, for attending this morning's call. We appreciate the time. We appreciate the questions. And of course, we appreciate the continued interest and support, and we'll look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call. Take care.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSolo Brands Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Solo Brands Earnings HeadlinesFanDuel Sports Network Doubles DTC Subscriber Base in Eight Weeks, Nears 650,000 Paid Subscribers Amid Strong Streaming GrowthMay 5 at 3:32 PM | businesswire.comNYSE to Commence Delisting Proceedings Against Solo Brands, Inc. (DTC)April 23, 2025 | morningstar.comElon just did WHAT!?As you may recall, Biden and the Fed were working on a central bank digital currency, or CBDC. 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Email Address About Solo BrandsSolo Brands (NYSE:DTC) operates a direct-to-consumer platform that offers outdoor and lifestyle branded products in the United States. The company provides camp stoves under the Solo Stove Lite brand name; fire pits under the Solo Stove brand name; kayaks under the Oru brand name; paddle boards under the ISLE brand name; and storage solutions for fire pits, firewood, and other accessories. It also offers swim trunks, casual shorts, sport products, polos, shirts, and lounge products under the Chubbies brand name; consumables, such as color packs, starters, natural charcoal, fuel, pellets, and firewood products; and accessories comprising shelters, shields, roasting sticks, tools, paddles, and pumps under the Solo Stove, Oru, and ISLE brands. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to today's Solar Brands Inc. 2nd Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Financial Results Call. My name is Seb, and I'll be the operator for your call today. I will now hand the floor to Bruce Williams to begin the call. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:24Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call to discuss SOLO Brands' 2nd quarter results, which we released this morning and can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Today's call will be hosted by Chief Executive Officer, Chris Metz and Chief Financial Officer, Laura Coffey. Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are based on current management expectations. These may include, without limitation, predictions, expectations, targets or estimates, including regarding our anticipated financial performance, business plans and objectives, future events and developments. Speaker 100:01:15Actual results could differ materially from those mentioned. These forward looking statements also involve substantial risks and uncertainties, some of which may be outside of our control and that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. These risks and uncertainties, among others, are discussed in our filings with the SEC. We encourage you to review these filings for a discussion of these risks, including our soon to be filed quarterly report on Form 10Q and will be available on the Investors portion of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Speaker 100:01:50You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. These statements are made only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise them for any new information except as required by law. This call will also contain certain non GAAP financial measures, net income as adjusted, diluted earnings per share as adjusted, gross margin as adjusted, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, which we believe are some useful supplemental measures that assist in evaluating our ability to generate earnings, provide consistency and comparability with our past performance and facilitate period to period comparisons of our core operating results and the results of peer companies. Reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and definitions of these indicators are included in our earnings release, which will be available in the Investor portion of our website at investors. Solobrands.com. Speaker 100:02:48Now I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:53Thank you, Bruce, and thank you all for joining us today. I will begin by discussing our Q2 performance and provide an update on our SOLO brand strategic plan and priorities. Lastly, I will turn the call over to Laura to discuss our financial results in more detail and our outlook for fiscal 2024. We are pleased with our 2nd quarter results as total revenues increased modestly year over year for the quarter. By channel, direct to consumer declined 0.9% as this channel continues to generate sequential improvement over the prior 2 quarters. Speaker 200:03:32We were particularly pleased with our wholesale results as revenues increased 4.8 percent despite continued difficult comparisons. In addition, we generated healthy low double digit EBITDA margins for the quarter despite planned investments in people, processes and capabilities that will provide the foundation that is needed to drive sustainable growth over the long term. While we are pleased with our 2nd quarter results and confident in the long term growth opportunities for solo brands, we recognize that consumers are facing a number of near term headwinds and demand for large ticket consumer durables remains challenging. Quarter to date, we are seeing softer than expected traffic through our direct channel. As such, we believe it is prudent to update our guidance to reflect the current trends. Speaker 200:04:25Laura will share with you shortly more color on our full year guidance. Now, I'd like to give an update on the SOLO brand strategic plan that we embarked upon shortly after I joined the company that allowed us to evaluate the full potential of our current business. The results of this in-depth strategic analysis confirm my conviction that our brands have significant opportunities to continue to gain market share within their respective categories and that we have a long runway of growth ahead of us. We have clearly identified several strengths of the company, highlighted by 1, we have incredibly strong brands with a passionate, loyal and high value customer base 2, our brands are leaders in the premium segments of their markets with a long term opportunity to grow into additional categories and expand our TAM. And 3, we are building the infrastructure to create a highly scalable model that will drive long term margins and returns on capital. Speaker 200:05:34First, I want to provide a summary of the consumer insight work that will guide our strategic plan and will inform our decisions regarding adjacencies and expansion of our TAM. We conducted the most in-depth consumer segmentation analysis that our company has ever done, speaking to over 2,000 consumers. Within Stove, Solo Stove's Net Promoter Score was incredibly high, putting us in the top 1 percentile in the outdoor goods market and leads in unaided brand awareness compared to our direct competitors. Walking in, I believe that the Solo Stove brand was strong, but frankly, I was pleasantly surprised to see just how strong it truly is. We have a premium customer base as the average household income of our customers is near 200,000 dollars which is 2 times the outdoor goods market. Speaker 200:06:30This consumer insight work will inform our strategic approach to pricing, as well as how to leverage our strong brand characteristics to expand our TAM by entering into near term adjacent categories. Within Chubbies, we know that we play in a larger but highly fragmented market. However, we are pleased with our share position within our core categories with ample opportunities to grow. Similar to Stowe, we have a premium customer that has a household income of approximately 140,000 dollars that is 1.4 times the menswear market. We believe that we have room for growth as we increase our brand awareness and capitalize on our strong Net Promoter Score for the brand. Speaker 200:07:16We believe that executing on our long term strategic pillars will be a multiyear process. This year, 2024, is about stabilizing the business, particularly in the direct channel and investing in capabilities. At SoloStope, we welcomed in a new Senior Vice President of Direct to Consumer E Commerce, who brings a wealth of relevant experience, most recently at SharkNinja. We are also reinvigorating our product innovation engine by laying the groundwork build out a multi year product pipeline that will generate innovation across platforms. In Q2, we welcomed in the new Senior Vice President of Product Development for Solo Stove, who also brings a wealth of relevant experience, having spent much time at innovative companies such as Helen of Troy, TTi and Bosch. Speaker 200:08:08In fact, this new leader and I just returned from a very productive trip to Asia with our product development team, looking at new product opportunities. Next, we are enhancing our product development ecosystem, which means that each new product introduction will be supplemented by consumer insight research, robust go to market marketing, as well as channel distribution strategies. We will have multiple exciting new products in Solo Stove to launch beginning in 2025. In fact, some of these new product introductions will begin to expand our TAM as we innovate into near adjacent categories outside of our core fire pit and pizza oven categories within Solo Stove. We believe that the investments we are making in people and infrastructure will position us to return to revenue growth, expand our margins and begin to introduce multiple new product innovations starting in 2025. Speaker 200:09:04As part of our strategic plan, we see substantial opportunities to continue to expand our omnichannel distribution. In fact, our consumer research has informed us that about 50% of consumers are purchasing their products in physical stores and not just online. This leads us to believe that our strategy of partnering with the right retailers to expand our overall revenue line is a smart approach. We don't believe this is an eitheror. We need to expand both our DTC and retail business. Speaker 200:09:37Our research supports this, and you will see us continue down this path. A smaller but still important part of reaching consumers where they shop is continuing to selectively open our owned retail footprint within Chubby's. During the Q2, we opened 3 new Chubby's stores. At our New Woodlands, Texas location, we experienced our largest grand opening weekend to date. Today, we have 10 Chubby's stores and plan to open an additional 2 stores by year end. Speaker 200:10:09Lastly, as part of our strategic plan, we see opportunities to leverage our scale across our platform to drive EBITDA margin expansion. Specifically, we will leverage our very strong existing fulfillment and procurement capabilities and scale our supply chain network to further reduce delivery and carrying costs. A few operational examples that help support our increasingly higher margins are: 1, our fulfillment centers are shipping greater than 99% picking accuracy 2, our procurement team continues to collaborate with our suppliers to drive net productivity, offsetting inflationary pressures and 3, our fulfillment team just signed a new contract with a leading packaged goods delivery company that will offer significant improvement in our delivery costs. This leverage will only grow as we expand Solo Stove into categories beyond fire pits and pizza ovens. In summary, despite a more challenging consumer environment, I couldn't be more encouraged with the progress we are making in returning solo brands to stronger performance, consistent with the best in class outdoor companies. Speaker 200:11:23We are building out our capabilities, ushering in incredible new talent, investing in much needed systems and adding robust repeatable processes. We believe the work we are doing to improve our capabilities and performance will pay dividends and drive long term sustainable growth. All of this leads me to believe we continue to march down the path to success as we move through our rebuild year of 2024. I will now turn the call over to Laura. Speaker 300:11:54Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will walk you through our Q2 results and provide our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2020 4. Despite a tough macro backdrop where the consumer continues to face pressures, we are highly focused on the areas we can't control. We are working to stabilize our business while investing to strengthen our infrastructure. We believe that this ongoing work as well as executing against our solo brand strategic plan will position us to drive long term shareholder value. Speaker 300:12:28Turning to our quarterly results. 2nd quarter sales were $131,600,000 increasing 0.5% compared to a year ago as sales growth in retail offset softer sales trends in our direct to consumer channel. In the direct channel, revenues declined 0.9 percent to $98,800,000 in the 2nd quarter, primarily due to lower site traffic. Retail revenues increased 4.8 percent to $32,800,000 driven by an increased order volume, just the result of continued growth with our strategic retail partners. We are particularly pleased that we were able to generate sales growth against a difficult sales comparison of +57 percent during the comparable period last year. Speaker 300:13:18Turning to gross margin. Our gross margin decreased 60 basis points to 62.8%, primarily the result of inventory fair value impact from the 2023 acquisition. Adjusted gross margin, which excludes this impact, was 63.6% flat to last year. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the quarter increased to $70,800,000 compared to 63 $500,000 a year ago. As a percentage of sales, SG and A expense increased to 53.8% of sales compared to 48.5 percent a year ago, primarily due to increased distribution expenses related to elevating shipping costs from higher transaction volumes associated with the SKU mix to more bundles, higher marketing expenses, increases in professional and information technology investments to support future growth. Speaker 300:14:162nd quarter net loss was $4,000,000 and adjusted net income was $6,100,000 and adjusted EBITDA was $15,500,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.7%. Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of the period, we had $20,100,000 in cash and cash equivalents. As of June 30, we had $75,000,000 in outstanding borrowings under the revolving credit facility and $88,800,000 under the term loan agreement. The borrowing capacity on the revolving credit facility was $350,000,000 as of June 30, leaving $274,000,000 of availability and our net leverage ratio was 3.3x. Speaker 300:15:02We remain focused on disciplined inventory management and are pleased with the composition of our current inventory levels. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $100,800,000 down 11.3% from a year ago. Moving to our outlook. We are pleased with our first half performance and the progress we are making on our turnaround plan. However, the macro environment remains challenging. Speaker 300:15:28Our quarter to date trends have softened and while approximately 60% of our business will come in the back half of the year, we believe it is prudent to be cautious in our full year guidance given our current run rate. As such, we expect fiscal 2024 revenue to be in the range of $470,000,000 to 490,000,000 dollars We now expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be in the range of 9% to 10% as we continue to invest in our capabilities and infrastructure that will lay the foundation for long term success. Turning to the second half, we expect the Q3 to be our most challenging quarter of the year due to very difficult comparisons in our retail channel and current trends in our direct to consumer. As a reminder, we are lapping a onetime trade credit agreement in which we recognized $7,200,000 in retail revenues during the Q3 of 2023. We continue to believe the Q4 will be our strongest quarter of the year, consistent with our typical seasonal pattern. Speaker 300:16:30This expectation is bolstered by our 1st full funnel marketing campaign, which begins in August as well as several small product launches. In closing, while the macro environment remains challenging in the near term, we are focused on our controllables and we are pleased with continued strength of our brand. We are making progress on our initiatives and are confident we have the strategies in place to position us for long term growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to begin Q and A. Operator00:17:04Thank Our first question comes from Jason Bender at Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:20Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Chris, just to start, thinking about the risk of a sharper macro turndown in the U. S, which has become more topical in days of late, I was curious if you think you can still drive this new long term strategic plan in a hard landing scenario? Speaker 400:17:46And if so, what really gives you that confidence? And related to that, are there parts of the portfolio in a hard landing scenario, either from a brand standpoint or a product standpoint that you see as being more at risk in potentially places where you would need to make more meaningful changes? Speaker 200:18:11Yes. So Jason, it's certainly a relevant question, insightful question and something that we've given an awful lot of thought to in terms of scenario planning. So I will say, first, we are in the deepest part of our turnaround, and we've guided to a business that is still generating historically high gross margins in the low 60s, which I think puts us in the best company within our peer group. And we're still generating EBITDA margins of 9% to 10%. And although our leverage ratio has increased a bit, we have an incredible amount of free availability and a balance sheet that allows us to continue to invest while we generate returns. Speaker 200:19:00So the focus of our team on the strategic plan is to, 1, create some innovation and excitement that compel consumers to buy products. And some of these new products, Jason, are going to be at price points with features and benefits that will allow people to lean in, where we haven't had that newness to date. Part of our consumer research has also shared with us that we have some price setting and some price getting that we feel like has been left on the table, if you will. So a lot of what we've uncovered in our insight work is not just strategic intents that we want to lean into that we feel like will grow our margins and our top line, but it's also frankly just better execution. So although we're seeing down traffic as an example on our online direct to consumer website, we know that our website needs to be refreshed. Speaker 200:20:06It doesn't give the shopper the experience that we need it to be. We know that the marketing campaigns that we've run over the past couple of years hasn't been as effective as they should be. These are all the fixes we're putting in place that would suggest that we don't need just a rosy environment to show improvements. A lot of this is just down to us executing better and growing our business. Now the other thing that I'll say that the consumer insight supported was, as I mentioned, we talked over 2,000 consumers. Speaker 200:20:45And in that research, it came back and said, hey, your brand is so strong, your net promoter score on a double blind basis puts you in the top 1% of all outdoor products brands, that allows you to expand into near adjacencies. Those near adjacencies that you expand into, consumers suggested that we could and should be the number 2, number 3 players in those categories. What this does is expands our TAM by 4 to 5 times. So we've got a much bigger area in which we're playing to grab share than we've had in the past. So listen, we're not predicting big changes in the macro environment, but we are preparing a business and we feel like we've got the tools around us to succeed regardless of the macroeconomic conditions. Speaker 400:21:34Got it. That's helpful color. And related to that and also the softer quarter to date trends you're seeing in 3Q, could you give us an update on the promotional environment? Obviously, you've leaned more heavily into bundling. But we've heard from some other companies that the promotional environment in general is increasing. Speaker 400:22:02Some retailers are still over inventoried and destocking. So curious what you're seeing, 1. But 2, given the macro backdrop and the quarter to date trends, how is that informing your decision not only to drive bundling, but also potential peer discounting? And what the depth and breadth of that looks like embedded in your outlook for the second half? Thanks. Speaker 200:22:28Yes. So Jason, we you can see this in our gross margin line. We have used bundling to help offset some of the promotions and discounts that maybe you're seeing from others in the space. And so we've mentioned that the bundling has increased our fulfillment and some of our shipping costs, and we have ways to improve that. But we've historically been pretty promotional. Speaker 200:22:58And I think part of the opportunity for us is to create an environment where we're frankly less promotional and not every day low low discounting. So we have factored in kind of business as usual from a discount and promotional environment, which has been heightened this year. That's all factored into our back half guidance. But I honestly believe that we can improve by offering a better shopping environment by a better value to our consumers in ways that don't necessarily create an erosion to our margin line. Speaker 400:23:39Got it. Appreciate that detail. I'll pass it on from here. Speaker 200:23:44Thanks, Jeez. Operator00:23:46Our next question comes from Anna Gleskin from B. Riley. Anna, please go ahead. Speaker 500:23:54Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I'd like to touch base on Chubby's wholesale or distribution gains have been a big driver of growth over the past few years, I believe. Can you speak to appetite from retailers to take on the brand or expand the brand into more of the store fleet at this point? Speaker 200:24:18Yes. So, Ann, as you've heard me in previous earnings calls, I've highlighted the fact that Chubby's is one of the most exciting young men's brands, apparel brands in the U. S. Today. I continue to believe that. Speaker 200:24:34And that's echoed by our key customers. So as you've rightly pointed out, we've grown with door count gains with some of our key retailers. The POS that we've seen from these retailers year to date continues to be strong. And we supplemented that with obviously our direct to consumer efforts, which is really how the brand started. So we really, really like the position that Chubby's is in. Speaker 200:25:02It's grown as 1st and foremost as a swim trunk brand. We've expanded into shorts and now we're expanding into other categories where we're starting to see some initial success with our key retailers. So you'll see our key retailers like Dick's Sporting Goods being a good example where if you walk into their house of sports concept, which is a fast growing concept, we've got a wall of Chubbies that is the envy of a lot of other vendors. And we partnered with them in a very strong way as we have with other key retailers like Scheels and others and some of the specialty retailers that are so important to us. We partnered in a way that we fully expect to continue to grow the Chubbies brand, both through our core assortment as well as through extended assortment given the initial success we're starting to see. Speaker 500:25:59Got it. Thanks for that, Chris. And then turning back to Solu, so helpful color from the consumer insights. As you look at the quarter to date performance, are you seeing shifts within the mix? Are people trading down or is the lower end underperforming as consumers who gravitate toward the premium are naturally less impacted by inflation and other consumer headwinds? Speaker 500:26:25Just any color there. Speaker 200:26:28Well, it's an interesting question, Anna. And the what we're seeing every day is that our average order value or AOV continues to be strong and it's not reducing, which is somewhat counterintuitive given what we're seeing in the economy and giving your comments about the consumer being pinched. And the reason for that is because we're offering value in the bundles. So it creates a win win. We create some value for our consumers, but we're also able to drive a higher average order value that you don't see compress our margins as much as, say, a discounting or promotional environment. Speaker 200:27:10So it's something that we want to continue to refresh to create newness in these bundles as we go forward. And I really anticipate that given some of the newness you'll see from us over the next 12 months, it's only going to enhance our ability to drive value to the consumer through bundling and newness of products. But no question, I mean, it's a weakening of the environment. We've seen it in July and the beginning of August, but we continue to drive bundles as a way to create value. Speaker 500:27:47Great. That's it for me. Thanks. Speaker 200:27:52Thanks, Jan. Operator00:27:54Our next question is from Ryan Sigdahl from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead, Ryan. Speaker 600:28:01Hey, good morning, guys. I want to start with that survey you did of 2,000 consumers. Were those past buyers or of an existing customers of Solo or I guess were they a random samples of just general people? I guess the reason I ask is from what I can tell is everyone that owns a SOLO product pretty unanimously love them. But there's a wide audience that doesn't know about it. Speaker 600:28:27So that's, I guess, where I'm curious what the sample size was? Speaker 200:28:32Yes, Ryan, it's a really good question. So I'll start first by saying, our customer service team, our customer experience team has always measured our Net Promoter Score. And that comes in the form of talking to our people who have just literally bought a solo store within the last 60 days. Well, of course, they're going to be happy most likely, right? So our net promoter score has always been high. Speaker 200:29:00This is the first time we've gone out to a sample of 2,000 consumers across a broad array of demographics. They had no idea who we were. And we talked to existing consumers, lapsed consumers, brand new consumers and consumers that weren't even frankly interested in the category itself. So we call it a double blind survey, if you will. And the number was over 2,200 consumers. Speaker 200:29:30And what came back was a net promoter score that was incredibly high. I knew we had a strong brand when I walked in the door. I just didn't realize how strong our brand is. And that was one of the pleasant surprises coming out of the research, which really informs us that we do have permission as we continue to ask questions in these research We have permission from consumers to move into near adjacent categories where either 1, they already think we're in the category and we're not or 2, said, hey, if you were to get into those categories, we think you ought to be a number 2 or number 3 share player. So very, very exciting and it was done in the best way you possibly could. Speaker 200:30:17We hired one of the best consumer research firms to help us make sure that as we gather the consumer insight, we could really hone into who our core consumer is, who our secondary consumer is, who our tertiary consumer is, where everything about them, so that we have a persona that we know how to develop product against and how to market against that persona. Speaker 600:30:45Helpful. And then for my follow-up question, just curious if you're seeing any new or outsized competition, namely from China and you see Timu and others out there with kind of knock off very, very cheap product. But how much of that is impacting you guys right now versus just general macro concern as you look at the back half of the Speaker 200:31:03year? Yes, Ryan, it's much more macro. I mean, if you walk into all of our retail channels, there's I mean, we are the market, if you will. You go online where you're going to have an endless aisle. You got some of the marketplaces that will bring in some of less expensive Chinese product or what have you. Speaker 200:31:26And clearly, they're getting a small portion of the market. Differences in the products with online reviews and postings and product reviews and what have you, I think it almost helps us more than it hurts us given what we're seeing in the marketplaces. But we still predominantly are the market. We made the market when we introduced the product as Solo Stove years ago. And I think what you'll see from us in 2025 and beyond is we're going to continue to reinvent the market and give consumers a reason to purchase a new fire pit or a new pizza oven or what have you. Speaker 200:32:14Much like golf companies will give their consumers a reason to go buy a new driver because you can hit it 5 or 10 yards further, we're going to give our consumers for the first time ever a reason to buy a new fire pit because we're going to create newness in the category, something that we haven't done or frankly needed to date, but we do need as we move forward. Speaker 600:32:38Thanks, Chris. Good luck, Speaker 200:32:39guys. Thanks, Operator00:32:43Brian. Our next question is from Brian McNamara at Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead, Brian. Speaker 500:32:51Good morning. This is Madison Callanan on for Brian. Thanks for taking our questions. I know we already talked about chubbies in wholesale, but do you have any additional color on solo stove and wholesale? Are you losing any partners or partner doors? Speaker 500:33:08Or are retailers being hesitant with orders? Thanks. Speaker 200:33:13Sure. No, we still have a lot of runway in front of us, Madison, in wholesale or what we call our retail channel. So the retail channel has been a lot about partnering with retailers and expanding those doors. But if you think hard about some of the retail channels we're not in today, like call the homeware or hardware improvement center channel. We're not even in that channel today. Speaker 200:33:39So there's channels that we don't participate in. There's doors of some of our key customers that we don't participate in. And so there's a clear runway for continued growth. Now I mentioned in my prepared remarks that the consumer insight research informed us that about half the market products are purchased in retail stores. So we know we're over indexed. Speaker 200:34:06We know we need to continue to expand into the retail format. But again, as I've said before, we don't think this is an eitheror. We think we can stabilize our D2C business and you've seen it with the sequential improvements quarter by quarter that we've made. And we think as we move into 2025, we should be able to grow both simultaneously. Now one of the things that we've made, I've talked a lot about talent, capabilities, processes, systems that we're investing in. Speaker 200:34:34One of the areas that we've invested in, frankly, is our retail sales team. We didn't have that because we grew so fast over the last 18 months in retail. We didn't have the support network to sit down with our big retail customers and be planful with the products that we bring in, making sure that we bring in maybe channel specific products to avoid channel conflicts. We tie together sell through marketing campaigns with those products and those customers. And we're just much more thoughtful and planful. Speaker 200:35:08It's hurt us a little bit this year because we didn't have that plan walking into the year. And as soon as I discovered it, we started building against that. So I think what you'll see from us on the retail wholesale side is better plans, better execution. And I think as we move into 2025, even better results. Speaker 500:35:32Great. That's super helpful. And then, any additional color on, I know you talked a little bit about like marketing being ineffective, but any color on the new marketing agency or things you're excited about to get DTC sales stronger outside of the macro? Thanks. Speaker 200:35:52Sure, Madison. Yes, so we've we started to make adjustments to our marketing mix to spend on a broader set of channels and with a different set of tactics to drive better efficiency of our media spend. I mean, this new approach is enabling us to be more nimble in managing our marketing spend as the external environment continues to be more challenging to navigate. Now I mentioned the snoop campaign that we're starting. I mean, this campaign is what I would call true 360 degree marketing campaign. Speaker 200:36:26It will fuel activation plans across different creative communications. It will feed into our website, our marketplaces, our retail stores. And so there's dramatic differences between this year's approach and last year's approach. So last year, we began in kind of that November timeframe. This year, we're beginning in August. Speaker 200:36:50So August 20, you'll see us start to feed the top of the tunnel our funnel rather. And as we start to move into September, our key selling seasons into October, November, you'll see us start to migrate down that funnel and create more of a conversion focused plan during our key selling season in Q4. So we've made a lot of changes and you'll start to see this come to fruition here as we move into the Q4. Now one of the key changes, and I mentioned it before, is our consumer shopping experience online is not where it needs to be, particularly with our website. We said when I first walked in that we made a choice to change platforms to salesforce.com and we're working very, very hard to bring that online next year. Speaker 200:37:42In the first hopefully, in the first the second quarter, it will be fully online. It will create a much, much easier, much more exciting shopping experience for our consumers. So, continual improvements in the marketing area. We brought in a cadre of just wonderful people with great talent, great experience that are just starting to come up to speed and they'll be hitting stride as we move through the end of this year. So excited about some of the green shoots that I'm seeing in that area. Speaker 500:38:16Great. Thanks so much. Operator00:38:36We have no further questions on the call. So I'll hand the floor back to management. Speaker 200:38:41Well, thank you, everyone, for attending this morning's call. We appreciate the time. We appreciate the questions. And of course, we appreciate the continued interest and support, and we'll look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call. Take care.Read morePowered by