NYSEAMERICAN:PTN Palatin Technologies Q3 2025 Earnings Report $0.10 -0.07 (-43.76%) Closing price 05/7/2025Extended Trading$0.10 0.00 (0.00%) As of 05/7/2025 04:08 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Palatin Technologies EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS -$0.17Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/APalatin Technologies Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/APalatin Technologies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date5/21/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, May 14, 2025Conference Call Time11:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Palatin Technologies Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 14, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings. Welcome to Palatin's Third Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Operating Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:26Before we begin our remarks, I would like to remind you that statements made by Palatin are not historical facts and may be forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions that may or may not prove to be accurate and that the actual results may differ materially from those anticipated due to the variety of risks and uncertainties discussed in the company's most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please consider such risks and uncertainties carefully in evaluating these forward looking statements by Palatin's prospects. Now I would like to turn the call over to our host, Doctor. Carl Spana, President and Chief Executive Officer of Palatin. Operator00:01:07Please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:09Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to the Palatin third quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five call. I'm doctor Carl Spana, CEO and president of Palatin. With me on the call today is Steve Wills, Palatin's chief financial officer, chief operate and chief operating officer. I'll now turn the call over to Steve, and he'll give the financial update. Speaker 200:01:27Thank you, Carl. Good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Regarding nonprogram corporate update, on 05/07/2025, Palatin received notice from NYSE regulation that it had suspended trading of the company's common stock on the NYSE American Stock Exchange and determined to commence proceedings to delist Palatin's common stock as a result of its determination that the company is no longer suitable for listing pursuant to section 1,003 F5 of the NYSE American Company Guide due to the low selling price of the company's common stock. Trading of the company's common stock on the NYSE American was suspended on 05/07/2025 and began trading on the OTC Pink market on 05/08/2025. Speaker 200:02:19Palatin exercised our right to review of NYSE regulations' determination to delist Palatin's common stock. We are disappointed and do not agree with the NYSE's decision and are assessing all available options. Moving over to our fiscal third quarter ended 03/31/2025 financial results regarding revenue. Pursuant to the completion of the sale of Vyleesi's worldwide rights for female sexual dysfunction to Cassette Pharmaceuticals for up to $171,000,000 in December 2023, Palatin did not record any product sales to pharmacy distributors for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, and 03/31/2024. Regarding operating expenses, total operating expenses were 4,800,000.0, net of 400,000.0 gain on a purchase commitment for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, compared to 9,200,000.0 for the comparable quarter last year. Speaker 200:03:20The decrease was mainly the result of the decreased lower spending related to our MCR programs for the quarter ended 03/31/2025. Regarding cash flows, Palatin's net cash used in operations for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, was $5,400,000 compared to net cash used in operations of $8,600,000 for the same period in 2024. The decrease in net cash used in operations is mainly due to the decrease in net loss during the period and secondarily to working capital changes. Regarding net loss, Palatin's net loss for the quarter ended 03/31/2025 was 4,800,000.0 compared to a net loss of 8,400,000.0 for the same period in 2024. As referenced above, the decrease in the net loss for the quarter ended 03/31/2025 over the quarter ended 03/31/2024 was driven primarily by the decrease in operating expenses for the quarter ended 03/31/2025. Speaker 200:04:23Regarding cash position, as of 03/31/2025, Palatin's cash and cash equivalents were 2,500,000.0 compared to cash and cash equivalents of 9,500,000.0 at 06/30/2024. The 2,500,000.0 of cash and cash equivalents as of 03/31/2025 does not include approximately 3,500,000.0 of net proceeds received in April and May 2025 from Palatin's ATM facility and the recent equity offering. We are actively engaged with multiple potential funding sources, including business development initiatives for future operating cash requirements. Let me turn the call back over to Carl. Thank you, Steve. Speaker 100:05:08I'll now go over the operating update for the quarter. Updates for melanocortin-four receptor obesity programs are as follows. For our phase two study, BMT eight zero one, evaluating the safety and efficacy of the co administration of the melanocortin-four receptor agonist, remelanotide, with tirzepatide, a GLP-one GIP dual agonist in patients with generalized obesity, we reported positive top line data for the study. The study successfully answered the research questions, does co administration result in increased weight loss, can treatment with an melanocortin-four receptor agonist be used as a treatment for weight loss maintenance by blunting the weight regain seen postincreting therapy? The primary efficacy endpoint was weight loss of the combined treatment compared to placebo control at the end of eight weeks of treatment. Speaker 100:05:55Patients on the combined therapy had a weight reduction of 4.4% versus 1.6% for the placebo arm. The p value here was highly significant. Importantly, nineteen percent of patients on the combined treatment had a weight reduction of greater than 7% compared to zero percent for patients on placebo and the tirzepatide alone arms. Concerning a weight loss maintenance effect, low dose of remelanotide prevented the rapid weight regain following tirzepatide treatment. So a very positive study for us. Speaker 100:06:28As we move forward, our obesity and weight loss management portfolio includes both novel long acting melanocortin-four selective peptide agonist and the orally active melanocortin-four receptor selective small molecule agonist PL7737. During the quarter, we were notified by the FDA that they granted orphan drug status to PL7737 for treating patients with obesity due to leptin receptor deficiency. Pending financing, PL 7,737 is on track for an initial new drug application submission in phase one single ascending dose and multiple ascending dose studies in the first quarter of twenty twenty six. Our novel next generation selective melanocortin-four receptor compounds have reduced activity at the melanocortin-one receptor, and therefore, a reduced potential to cause skin darkening. The lack of MCR-one activity, once weekly oral dosing represents significant improvements over current FDA approved melanocortin treatments. Speaker 100:07:24You can find additional information on our clinical trial at clinicaltrials.gov and on our website. During the quarter, we also reported positive top line data for our Phase II study evaluating our oral PL-eight thousand one hundred seventy seven, a selective melanocortin-one receptor agonist for treating ulcerative colitis. The study evaluated PL-eight thousand one seventy seven versus placebo for eight weeks in moderate ulcerative colitis patients. Clinical remission was achieved for thirty three percent of PL-eight thousand one seventy seven treated patients versus zero percent for placebo. Clinical response was achieved for seventy eight percent of PL-eight thousand one seventy seven patients, compared to thirty three percent for placebo again, highly significant. Speaker 100:08:05The symptomatic remission was achieved for fifty six percent of patients on PL-eight one seventy seven versus thirty three percent for placebo. This exciting data has resulted in a significant increase in business development discussions with potential partners, which is in line with our current strategy to out license this program. During the quarter, we also reported additional data for the PL-nine thousand six hundred forty three MELLODY-one Phase III study in dry eye disease patients. The data from a responder analysis that compared placebo to PL nine thousand six hundred forty three demonstrated that for six of the 13 symptom endpoints, a significantly higher percentage of patients had a complete symptom clearing, I. E, they were cured. Speaker 100:08:43This, again, was highly significant. This level of symptom clearing has not been achieved by any FDA approved treatment for dry eye disease. Clearing was seen as early as two weeks and continued to improve over the twelve weeks of the study. We are actively engaged in potential corporate partners for this program as one of our earlier ocular programs, and we anticipate one or more transactions closing in the second half of calendar 'twenty five. Before moving on to take questions, I would like to comment on our strategy. Speaker 100:09:11We are focused on our research and development efforts on our melanocortin-four receptor obesity assets. We believe the pharmacological treatment of obesity is in the early stages of a multiyear cycle of innovation and will have a market value in excess of $100,000,000,000 per year. Melanocortin system plays a critically important role regulating stored energy and food intake, and we strongly believe that the monocortin-four receptor agonist will be an important part of the future of obesity treatment and weight loss management. We'll now take the thank you for participation, and we'll now open the line to questions. Operator00:09:41Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. And And we have a question from Scott Henry from Alliance Global Partners. Scott, your line is live. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:10:19Thank you and good morning. A couple questions on the obesity program. First, I know that a low dose of remelamtide or BMT was used in this study. The question is, do you believe a higher dose would increase the weight loss, putting it in the ranges of Wegovy or Zepbound? Speaker 100:10:45Sure. Thanks, Scott, for the question. Yes, we actually have a publication out on that. We actually looked at higher doses of bremelanotide in an earlier study, and where we were looking to optimize, it's a short acting compound, so they were on multiple doses per day so that patients would be in optimal dose range while they had access to food. And the weight loss there really is comparable to what you would see with the single agent Wegovy. Speaker 100:11:09Tirzepatide is a multiple mechanism drug, and it's a little bit better than Wegovy. But with regards to these single mechanism drugs like Wegovy, a good MCR4 agonist like premelanotide are the ones that we're working on. They will have highly competitive weight loss. Speaker 300:11:26Okay, great. Thank you for that color. And then with the GLPs, the rebound weight regain is kind of a common issue. Do you think we may see this idea of weight maintenance in the future, even potentially getting into the label? Could that be more of a focus, in these next generations? Speaker 100:11:49Absolutely. The new compounds coming through, are going to be evaluated There are studies that are going on right now doing that with the GLP-1s. But you're gonna need newer mechanisms to really address that on a long term basis. Right now, we don't have any evidence that patients that have, once they've lost weight, can effectively come off of treatment and maintain that weight. Speaker 100:12:14Right now, strategy is they're gonna need to be on long term weight loss maintenance, how the dosing works out, what agents are gonna be used, that's gonna be worked out in clinical trials. Know, melanocortin-four agonists are really ideally suited for that. It's probably dysfunctions in the hypothalamic MCR leptin pathways that actually are leading to that weight regain. And this really begins to address that directly. Speaker 300:12:40Okay, great. And the final question, just on the next generation of MC4Rs, if you could just talk about the benefits that will separate them from the first generation. I know pigmentation was an issue. I don't know if that's going to be one of the things that may be different. But if you could just talk about what your expectations are for that next generation? Speaker 300:13:05Thank you. Speaker 100:13:06Sure, thanks. You know, both bremelanotide and there's another one approved semlanotide, they're what I would consider first generation compounds. They are good, they work well, but they are short term dosing, so you need one or more doses per day. They do have the pigmentation that you pointed out, and they're not ideal treatments or as competitive in say a general market as current treatment. So what we're looking to do here is really eliminate that MCR-one activity so we don't get the skin darkening. Speaker 100:13:34I think we've been able to do that quite successfully. In addition to that, if we're dealing with a peptide, which wouldn't be orally active, we certainly want that to be once a week, which is very patient friendly, or with seven thousand seven thirty seven, which is a small molecule, we want that it's a once a day oral, has a very nice extended half life, so we can really get to steady state. And that's really a goal with these things. Compared to what's out there on the melanocortin side, when you deal with short acting, compounds, you know, it's very hard to maintain a steady state. And in obesity, you Speaker 200:14:04really wanna get that steady state, and Speaker 100:14:06we can achieve that with both the long acting peptide or the oral small molecule that we're bringing forward. So they really are improvements over what's out there today. Speaker 300:14:14Okay. Yeah. Thank you for that color, and thank you for taking the questions. Operator00:14:18Thank you, Scott. Thank you. This does conclude our question and answer session for today. I would now like to pass the floor back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 100:14:33Steve and I would like to thank everyone for participating in our third quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five call. We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. I think it was from an operating standpoint, it was a phenomenal quarter for us. You know, we did have a little difficulty with the MIS C, but I think that's gonna be transitory. We're gonna work to address that as quickly as we can. Speaker 100:14:52So thank you, and, please have a great day. Operator00:14:57Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways NYSE American suspended trading of Palatin’s common stock and initiated delisting proceedings due to its low share price, prompting the company to seek a review and explore all appeal options. In Q3 FY2025, Palatin’s operating expenses fell from $9.2 M to $4.8 M, net loss narrowed to $4.8 M from $8.4 M, and net cash used in operations dropped to $5.4 M, while cash on hand was $2.5 M as of March 31, 2025 (excluding ~$3.5 M from recent financings). Phase II topline data showed co-administration of the MC4R agonist bremelanotide (BMT-801) with tirzepatide achieved a 4.4% weight loss versus 1.6% for placebo and prevented post-GLP-1 weight regain, with 19% of patients on combined therapy losing >7% body weight. The FDA granted orphan drug status to the oral MC4R agonist PL-7737 for leptin receptor–deficiency obesity, and, pending financing, a Phase I SAD/MAD study is on track to begin in Q1 2026 toward an NDA submission. Phase III data for PL-9643 in dry eye disease demonstrated complete symptom clearing on six of 13 endpoints as early as Week 2 with sustained improvement through Week 12, an efficacy level not previously seen and driving active partner discussions. AI Generated. 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The company's lead product is Vyleesi, a melanocortin receptor (MCr) agonist for the treatment of premenopausal women with hypoactive sexual desire disorder. It is also developing oral PL8177, a selective MC1r agonist peptide that is in Phase 2 clinical trial for the treatment of inflammatory bowel diseases. In addition, the company engages in the development of PL9643, a peptide melanocortin agonist active at multiple MCrs, including MC1r and MC5r for anti-inflammatory ocular indications, such as dry eye disease, which is in Phase 3 clinical trial; and melanocortin peptides for diabetic retinopathy. Further, it is developing PL8177, an oral peptide formulation for treatment of ulcerative colitis, which entered Phase 2 clinical trials. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings. Welcome to Palatin's Third Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Operating Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:26Before we begin our remarks, I would like to remind you that statements made by Palatin are not historical facts and may be forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions that may or may not prove to be accurate and that the actual results may differ materially from those anticipated due to the variety of risks and uncertainties discussed in the company's most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please consider such risks and uncertainties carefully in evaluating these forward looking statements by Palatin's prospects. Now I would like to turn the call over to our host, Doctor. Carl Spana, President and Chief Executive Officer of Palatin. Operator00:01:07Please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:09Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to the Palatin third quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five call. I'm doctor Carl Spana, CEO and president of Palatin. With me on the call today is Steve Wills, Palatin's chief financial officer, chief operate and chief operating officer. I'll now turn the call over to Steve, and he'll give the financial update. Speaker 200:01:27Thank you, Carl. Good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Regarding nonprogram corporate update, on 05/07/2025, Palatin received notice from NYSE regulation that it had suspended trading of the company's common stock on the NYSE American Stock Exchange and determined to commence proceedings to delist Palatin's common stock as a result of its determination that the company is no longer suitable for listing pursuant to section 1,003 F5 of the NYSE American Company Guide due to the low selling price of the company's common stock. Trading of the company's common stock on the NYSE American was suspended on 05/07/2025 and began trading on the OTC Pink market on 05/08/2025. Speaker 200:02:19Palatin exercised our right to review of NYSE regulations' determination to delist Palatin's common stock. We are disappointed and do not agree with the NYSE's decision and are assessing all available options. Moving over to our fiscal third quarter ended 03/31/2025 financial results regarding revenue. Pursuant to the completion of the sale of Vyleesi's worldwide rights for female sexual dysfunction to Cassette Pharmaceuticals for up to $171,000,000 in December 2023, Palatin did not record any product sales to pharmacy distributors for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, and 03/31/2024. Regarding operating expenses, total operating expenses were 4,800,000.0, net of 400,000.0 gain on a purchase commitment for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, compared to 9,200,000.0 for the comparable quarter last year. Speaker 200:03:20The decrease was mainly the result of the decreased lower spending related to our MCR programs for the quarter ended 03/31/2025. Regarding cash flows, Palatin's net cash used in operations for the quarter ended 03/31/2025, was $5,400,000 compared to net cash used in operations of $8,600,000 for the same period in 2024. The decrease in net cash used in operations is mainly due to the decrease in net loss during the period and secondarily to working capital changes. Regarding net loss, Palatin's net loss for the quarter ended 03/31/2025 was 4,800,000.0 compared to a net loss of 8,400,000.0 for the same period in 2024. As referenced above, the decrease in the net loss for the quarter ended 03/31/2025 over the quarter ended 03/31/2024 was driven primarily by the decrease in operating expenses for the quarter ended 03/31/2025. Speaker 200:04:23Regarding cash position, as of 03/31/2025, Palatin's cash and cash equivalents were 2,500,000.0 compared to cash and cash equivalents of 9,500,000.0 at 06/30/2024. The 2,500,000.0 of cash and cash equivalents as of 03/31/2025 does not include approximately 3,500,000.0 of net proceeds received in April and May 2025 from Palatin's ATM facility and the recent equity offering. We are actively engaged with multiple potential funding sources, including business development initiatives for future operating cash requirements. Let me turn the call back over to Carl. Thank you, Steve. Speaker 100:05:08I'll now go over the operating update for the quarter. Updates for melanocortin-four receptor obesity programs are as follows. For our phase two study, BMT eight zero one, evaluating the safety and efficacy of the co administration of the melanocortin-four receptor agonist, remelanotide, with tirzepatide, a GLP-one GIP dual agonist in patients with generalized obesity, we reported positive top line data for the study. The study successfully answered the research questions, does co administration result in increased weight loss, can treatment with an melanocortin-four receptor agonist be used as a treatment for weight loss maintenance by blunting the weight regain seen postincreting therapy? The primary efficacy endpoint was weight loss of the combined treatment compared to placebo control at the end of eight weeks of treatment. Speaker 100:05:55Patients on the combined therapy had a weight reduction of 4.4% versus 1.6% for the placebo arm. The p value here was highly significant. Importantly, nineteen percent of patients on the combined treatment had a weight reduction of greater than 7% compared to zero percent for patients on placebo and the tirzepatide alone arms. Concerning a weight loss maintenance effect, low dose of remelanotide prevented the rapid weight regain following tirzepatide treatment. So a very positive study for us. Speaker 100:06:28As we move forward, our obesity and weight loss management portfolio includes both novel long acting melanocortin-four selective peptide agonist and the orally active melanocortin-four receptor selective small molecule agonist PL7737. During the quarter, we were notified by the FDA that they granted orphan drug status to PL7737 for treating patients with obesity due to leptin receptor deficiency. Pending financing, PL 7,737 is on track for an initial new drug application submission in phase one single ascending dose and multiple ascending dose studies in the first quarter of twenty twenty six. Our novel next generation selective melanocortin-four receptor compounds have reduced activity at the melanocortin-one receptor, and therefore, a reduced potential to cause skin darkening. The lack of MCR-one activity, once weekly oral dosing represents significant improvements over current FDA approved melanocortin treatments. Speaker 100:07:24You can find additional information on our clinical trial at clinicaltrials.gov and on our website. During the quarter, we also reported positive top line data for our Phase II study evaluating our oral PL-eight thousand one hundred seventy seven, a selective melanocortin-one receptor agonist for treating ulcerative colitis. The study evaluated PL-eight thousand one seventy seven versus placebo for eight weeks in moderate ulcerative colitis patients. Clinical remission was achieved for thirty three percent of PL-eight thousand one seventy seven treated patients versus zero percent for placebo. Clinical response was achieved for seventy eight percent of PL-eight thousand one seventy seven patients, compared to thirty three percent for placebo again, highly significant. Speaker 100:08:05The symptomatic remission was achieved for fifty six percent of patients on PL-eight one seventy seven versus thirty three percent for placebo. This exciting data has resulted in a significant increase in business development discussions with potential partners, which is in line with our current strategy to out license this program. During the quarter, we also reported additional data for the PL-nine thousand six hundred forty three MELLODY-one Phase III study in dry eye disease patients. The data from a responder analysis that compared placebo to PL nine thousand six hundred forty three demonstrated that for six of the 13 symptom endpoints, a significantly higher percentage of patients had a complete symptom clearing, I. E, they were cured. Speaker 100:08:43This, again, was highly significant. This level of symptom clearing has not been achieved by any FDA approved treatment for dry eye disease. Clearing was seen as early as two weeks and continued to improve over the twelve weeks of the study. We are actively engaged in potential corporate partners for this program as one of our earlier ocular programs, and we anticipate one or more transactions closing in the second half of calendar 'twenty five. Before moving on to take questions, I would like to comment on our strategy. Speaker 100:09:11We are focused on our research and development efforts on our melanocortin-four receptor obesity assets. We believe the pharmacological treatment of obesity is in the early stages of a multiyear cycle of innovation and will have a market value in excess of $100,000,000,000 per year. Melanocortin system plays a critically important role regulating stored energy and food intake, and we strongly believe that the monocortin-four receptor agonist will be an important part of the future of obesity treatment and weight loss management. We'll now take the thank you for participation, and we'll now open the line to questions. Operator00:09:41Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. And And we have a question from Scott Henry from Alliance Global Partners. Scott, your line is live. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:10:19Thank you and good morning. A couple questions on the obesity program. First, I know that a low dose of remelamtide or BMT was used in this study. The question is, do you believe a higher dose would increase the weight loss, putting it in the ranges of Wegovy or Zepbound? Speaker 100:10:45Sure. Thanks, Scott, for the question. Yes, we actually have a publication out on that. We actually looked at higher doses of bremelanotide in an earlier study, and where we were looking to optimize, it's a short acting compound, so they were on multiple doses per day so that patients would be in optimal dose range while they had access to food. And the weight loss there really is comparable to what you would see with the single agent Wegovy. Speaker 100:11:09Tirzepatide is a multiple mechanism drug, and it's a little bit better than Wegovy. But with regards to these single mechanism drugs like Wegovy, a good MCR4 agonist like premelanotide are the ones that we're working on. They will have highly competitive weight loss. Speaker 300:11:26Okay, great. Thank you for that color. And then with the GLPs, the rebound weight regain is kind of a common issue. Do you think we may see this idea of weight maintenance in the future, even potentially getting into the label? Could that be more of a focus, in these next generations? Speaker 100:11:49Absolutely. The new compounds coming through, are going to be evaluated There are studies that are going on right now doing that with the GLP-1s. But you're gonna need newer mechanisms to really address that on a long term basis. Right now, we don't have any evidence that patients that have, once they've lost weight, can effectively come off of treatment and maintain that weight. Speaker 100:12:14Right now, strategy is they're gonna need to be on long term weight loss maintenance, how the dosing works out, what agents are gonna be used, that's gonna be worked out in clinical trials. Know, melanocortin-four agonists are really ideally suited for that. It's probably dysfunctions in the hypothalamic MCR leptin pathways that actually are leading to that weight regain. And this really begins to address that directly. Speaker 300:12:40Okay, great. And the final question, just on the next generation of MC4Rs, if you could just talk about the benefits that will separate them from the first generation. I know pigmentation was an issue. I don't know if that's going to be one of the things that may be different. But if you could just talk about what your expectations are for that next generation? Speaker 300:13:05Thank you. Speaker 100:13:06Sure, thanks. You know, both bremelanotide and there's another one approved semlanotide, they're what I would consider first generation compounds. They are good, they work well, but they are short term dosing, so you need one or more doses per day. They do have the pigmentation that you pointed out, and they're not ideal treatments or as competitive in say a general market as current treatment. So what we're looking to do here is really eliminate that MCR-one activity so we don't get the skin darkening. Speaker 100:13:34I think we've been able to do that quite successfully. In addition to that, if we're dealing with a peptide, which wouldn't be orally active, we certainly want that to be once a week, which is very patient friendly, or with seven thousand seven thirty seven, which is a small molecule, we want that it's a once a day oral, has a very nice extended half life, so we can really get to steady state. And that's really a goal with these things. Compared to what's out there on the melanocortin side, when you deal with short acting, compounds, you know, it's very hard to maintain a steady state. And in obesity, you Speaker 200:14:04really wanna get that steady state, and Speaker 100:14:06we can achieve that with both the long acting peptide or the oral small molecule that we're bringing forward. So they really are improvements over what's out there today. Speaker 300:14:14Okay. Yeah. Thank you for that color, and thank you for taking the questions. Operator00:14:18Thank you, Scott. Thank you. This does conclude our question and answer session for today. I would now like to pass the floor back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 100:14:33Steve and I would like to thank everyone for participating in our third quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five call. We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. I think it was from an operating standpoint, it was a phenomenal quarter for us. You know, we did have a little difficulty with the MIS C, but I think that's gonna be transitory. We're gonna work to address that as quickly as we can. Speaker 100:14:52So thank you, and, please have a great day. Operator00:14:57Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by