American Electric Power Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Strong Q3 performance – Operating EPS of $1.43 and YTD EPS of $3.76 (vs. $3.56 last year) led AEP to raise its 2021 guidance midpoint to $4.70/share and reaffirm a 5%–7% long-term earnings growth target.
  • Sale of Kentucky Power – AEP agreed to sell Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco to Liberty Utilities, subject to regulatory approvals, with an expected Q2 2022 close that will be $0.01–$0.02 accretive in 2022 and avoid $1.4 billion of planned equity issuance.
  • Robust load recovery – Q3 normalized sales rose 3% and are now within 0.7% of pre-pandemic levels; updated 2021 load forecasts show residential down 0.9% (vs. –1.1%) and commercial up 3.7% (vs. –0.5%).
  • Renewables growth plan – AEP targets over 16 GW of new renewable resources by 2030, backed by transmission/distribution investments, active RFPs and potential extensions of federal PTC and ITC incentives.
  • Regulatory progress – Key rate case orders are expected in Q4 2021 for Ohio, Oklahoma and Texas, with Indiana, Louisiana and Arkansas filings set for early 2022, paving the way for base rate increases and smart-grid deployments.
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Earnings Conference Call
American Electric Power Q3 2021
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There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the American Electric Power Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, your telephone lines are in a listen only mode. Later, there will be an opportunity for questions and answers. And as a reminder, your conference call today is being recorded.

Operator

I'll now turn the conference call over to your host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Darcy Reese. Go ahead, please.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Alan. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Q3 2021 earnings call for American Electric Power. We appreciate you taking the time to join us today. Our Our earnings release, presentation slides and related financial information are available on our website ataep.com. Today, we will be making forward looking statements during the call.

Speaker 1

There are many factors that may cause future results to differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors. Joining me this morning for opening remarks are Nick Akins, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Julie Sloat, our Chief Financial Officer. We will take your questions following their remarks. I will now turn the call over to Nick.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thanks, Darcy. Welcome again, everyone, to American Power's Q3 2021 earnings call. Today, we are pleased to report a strong Q3 operating earnings of $1.43 per share for the Q3. This brings our year to date operating earnings of $3.76 per share versus $3.56 per share last year, which gives us confidence in raising the midpoint of our guidance range for 2021.

Speaker 2

AEP service territory continues to prove its resiliency and stability with Continued economic recovery experienced in the Q3. In fact, AEP posted a stronger sales quarter in over a decade and the gross regional product for the AEP footprint, the 3rd quarter was the highest on record as well as job growth being the strongest since 1984. The strength and diversity of our portfolio, the robustness of our organic growth opportunities and our consistent ability to Queued against our plan places AEP among what we believe should be one of the country's premium regulated utilities. Our Our strong performance this quarter coupled with the level of economic recovery experienced within our footprint provides us once again the confidence needed to raise our midpoint $4.70 per share and nearer the 2021 guidance range to $4.65 to $4.75 while reaffirming our 5% to 7% long term earnings growth rate. And as I've stated previously, I would still be disappointed if we were not in that upper half of our long term growth rate.

Speaker 2

A driver of our strong performance is the talent and commitment of our employees. Our frontline and central service work teams have continued to adapt to ensure the needs of our customers and communities are met day in and day out throughout the pandemic. Like many industries, the face of work for AEP will never be the same. As employees return to the office, we have taken actions to ensure the safe return to the workplace environment. I remain appreciative of the dedication of our employees and have the utmost confidence in their continuing ability to successfully check and adjust as we adapt to the future.

Speaker 2

We believe that This new work environment will continue to enable more efficiency, flexibility and creativity that will contribute to the culture that excels in meeting our strategic objectives. This new future of work, along with digitization and automation, will continue to provide benefits for our achieving excellence program. Our growth opportunities over the next decade are significant, driven by our future Ford Renewables plan of over 16 gigawatts of new renewables resources by 2,030 and the transmission and distribution investments needed to support the needs of a clean energy economy for our customers and communities. Additionally, the completion of the strategic review of our Kentucky companies And our decision to move forward with the sale to Liberty Utilities enables us to focus our attention on executing that transaction and delivering on our growth strategy. So let's cover the announced sale of Kentucky Power.

Speaker 2

Earlier this week on Tuesday at market close, We announced the sale of Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco to Liberty Utilities, the regulated utility operation of Algonquin Power. The sale is a result of the strategic review that we launched back in April. The sale is subject to regulatory approvals, including approvals from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which is within 180 days, and the Kentucky Public Service Commission within 120 days. The transaction is also subject to federal clearance pursuant to Hart Scott Rodino, which typically is within 30 to 60 days and and the clearance from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States within 90 120 days for that approval. We anticipate making these regulatory filings in late November early December.

Speaker 2

Separately, we will file With both the Kentucky, West Virginia and FERC Commissions, the necessary changes to the Mitchell plant operating agreement to accommodate the ELG investments recently approved by the West Virginia Commission. The following will include a plan to resolve the question of Mitchell ownership post-twenty 28. Both state commissions are expecting these filings as both issued recent orders directing us to do so. These filings will be made in the mid to late November timeframe. We're also very pleased with the outcome of the strategic review and know that the future owner of our Kentucky assets will be a great steward for all stakeholders in Our valued employees, customers and certainly the communities.

Speaker 2

Lastly, I want to thank all the Kentucky employees and the corporate support employees for their patience during this review and for their continued focus on safety and operational excellence during this period and as the transaction is completed. Now moving to several of the regulatory activities. In Ohio, we Expect an order in the Q4 on the settlement reached and filed with the commission earlier this year. As a reminder, the settlement has broad support The settling parties, including the commission staff, the Ohio's Consumers Council, industrial companies, commercial companies, and other entities like the Ohio Hospital Association. Additionally, AEP Ohio's GRIDSMART Phase 3 settlement was filed yesterday and it paves the way to continue our deployment of advanced Smart Grid Technologies, including completion of our AMI meter rollout to the remaining 475,000 loyal customers.

Speaker 2

The unopposed settlement with support from the commission staff, Ohio's Consumers Council and several of our largest customers demonstrates that AP Ohio continues to maintain a great working relationship with our regulator and interested parties. Public Service Company of Oklahoma reached The settlement in the rate case with the Oklahoma staff and other parties, the settlement was presented to the commission on October 5th. The black box Settlement includes $50,700,000 net increase in rates while adding another $102,700,000 in base rates. In addition to continuing the practice of allowing some interim recovery of CapEx riders, the rider collecting for Maverick and Sundance North Central wind assets was also included. An order is expected by year end with rates reflected in November bills.

Speaker 2

In Indiana, I and M filed its base rate case on the July 1, based on a future test year model, seeking $97,000,000 net revenue increase with a 10 Major items included recognition of over $500,000,000 in capital investment per year in Indiana, Continuation of the transmission tracker, a federal tax rider in the event of a change in federal tax rates and the advancement of AMI to provide customers greater control and insight in to their usage. The hearing is set before the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission on December 2nd, with an order expected by April of 'twenty 2. In our Southwest Electric Power Company jurisdictions, cases are pending in Louisiana, Texas and Arkansas. The SWEPCO, Texas Commission deliberation is set for November 18th. Parties filed exceptions to the preliminary draft order issued by the hearing examiner and replies to those exceptions were filed yesterday.

Speaker 2

SREPKO is seeking a net revenue increase of $73,000,000 with an ROE of 10.35%. Our filing includes investments made from February 2018, accelerated depreciation from the Dulles plant, a storm reserve and increased vegetation management. We expect an order in the Q4 with rates being retroactive back to March of 'twenty one. In Swerpco, Louisiana, testimony has been Following hearing is scheduled for January of 'twenty two, our K6 of $73,000,000 net revenue increase and a 10.35 percent ROE And order is expected between the 2nd Q3 of 'twenty two. In Swetco, Arkansas, we are seeking a $56,000,000 net revenue increase with a 10.35 ROE, the following contains a formula rate plan for subsequent years and considers the pending retirement of previously announced coal lignite assets.

Speaker 2

This filing is time to align with the North Central end service dates and to provide a mechanism both for recovery of costs associated with the investment and flow through of the PTC to Swepco customers. A hearing is set for March of 'twenty two. Both Swepco and PSO continue to make progress to recognize the storm As a reminder, we filed for recovery of a WACC return over 5 years in Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas. PSO is moving forward with the state on the securitization of costs as permitted under Oklahoma law. We have continued our efforts to secure approvals and Clarity regarding investments necessary to comply with the EPA CCR and ELG requirements.

Speaker 2

We received certificates to construct the CCR compliance plan In Virginia, West Virginia and Kentucky, while West Virginia approved DLG investments, Virginia and Kentucky did not. West Virginia has since determined it was in the public interest to move forward with ELG Investments for all three plants and has issued an order regarding its We'll be working with our commissions to implement the West Virginia decision and making necessary adjustments to respect each state's decision. The Virginia Commission asked us to come back with more information, so we'll do that. We plan to lay out all the options before them on how to satisfy their capacity needs. The Virginia PSC approved the 1st year revenue requirement of $4,800,000 for broadband, which means we now have recovery for our rural broadband efforts in both rural Virginia and West Virginia.

Speaker 2

We continue to engage the legislators and commissions in other states and stand ready to invest in synergistic mid mile broadband to support advanced grid technologies and rural broadband for our communities. We also understand it's all about execution. On September 10th, AEP began commercial operation of the 287 Megawatt Maverick Wind Energy Center in North Central Oklahoma. Maverick is one of 3 wind projects that Post the North Central Energy Facilities, which will provide 1485 Megawatts of clean energy to customers of our PSO and Sweptco subsidiaries. The Traverse project, the largest single site wind farm in North America, is well under construction and will come online in the January to April 2022 timeframe.

Speaker 2

Transforming the way energy is generated, delivered and consumed is necessary to support the needs of a clean energy economy And AEP continues to drive that transformation for the benefit of our customers and communities. With the success of North Central setting Station of our future forward regulated renewables platform, we are diligently working on securing additional renewable opportunities for our customers. RFP filings are ongoing and planned in multiple states. So more to come on this as we file for approval After resources, as a result of the RFPs that were out in the market for, which some of you probably have heard of, We will be able to provide greater detail on the progress being made. Further, if federal efforts through the various tax proposals to extend and expand PTCs and ITCs For clean energy resources succeed, even more benefits will be enjoyed by our customers.

Speaker 2

So now I'll move quickly to the equalizer chart at this point, And I'll go quickly through this. So far, the average for the overall regulated operations is currently 9%. We generally target in the 9.5% to 10% range. So obviously, we continue to work on that. AP Ohio came in at 9.3% for the Q3.

Speaker 2

That was below authorized primarily due to timely recovery of capital investments, partially at Bahar O and M expenses. We expect that ROE to trend around authorized levels as we maintain concurrent capital recovery of distribution and transmission investments. We also, as I mentioned earlier, expect the commission order here in the Q4 of 'twenty one. APCO came in at 7.3% It's below authorized due to higher amortization primarily related to retired coal fired generating assets and higher depreciation And as you know, we are still at the appeals court appealing the Virginia Supreme Court, which is currently outstanding. We filed an appeal with that Virginia Supreme Court, so we're still waiting on that.

Speaker 2

As far as Kentucky is concerned, 6.9% below authorized due to loss of load from weak economic conditions and loss of major customers. Transmission revenues were also lower due to a delay in some capital projects. NIM came in at 10.3%. It's above its authorized ROE, primarily due to increase in sales, partially offset by increased O and M and depreciation expenses associated with I and M's continued capital investment programs. As far as PSO is concerned, came in at 7.6 percent is below its authorized level, primarily due to increased capital investment currently not in base rates and higher than anticipated equity due to the extreme February winter weather event and of course, we expect a commission order here on the rate case in the Q4 of 'twenty one.

Speaker 2

Swepco came in at 8.2%. It's below authorized due to increased capital investment, currently not in base rates and the continued impact of the Arkansas The Turk plant that is not in retail rates. Turk issue, again, accounts for about 110 basis points that we're not recovering in Arkansas. Again, as I mentioned earlier, we expect various commission orders And particularly in Texas, in the Q4 of 2021, it's retroactive back to March. AP Texas came in at 8.2%.

Speaker 2

It's below authorized primarily due to the significant level of investment in Texas. Of course, we have favorable regulatory treatment there with annual DCRF and biannual TCOS filings to recover rates. So significant levels of investment in Texas will continue to impact the ROE, but the expectation is for the ROE to trend towards an authorized 9.4% in the longer term. AP Transmission HoldCo came in at 11.2%. It was above authorized primarily driven by differences Between actual and forecasted expenses, the Transco's benefit from a forward looking formula rate mechanism, which helps minimize regulatory lag And that forecasted ROE is around 11% in 2021.

Speaker 2

So overall, continue to make progress. So cases, obviously, we're waiting to hear the results of several cases that should provide some additional benefits, but that work continues. So in closing, we're executing all cylinders and continue to drive the results expected of our premium regulated utility. The AP portfolio is one that has enabled our investments in the wire side of the business, supporting our transmission investments, including the $0.33 per share this quarter Through our AP Transmission HoldCo investments, our plan to transition our generation fleet and reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2,030 And net 0 by 2,050 is well underway with 2 of our 3 wind facilities of our $2,000,000,000 investment in North Central Wind under our belt, providing a solid foundation for the next decade of growth. Throughout this transition, we remain engaged in a trusted voice on energy transformation efforts, helping to ensure a responsible transition to a clean energy economy and we'll continue to support federal efforts in that regard and state efforts as well.

Speaker 2

Finally, our strong quarter performance gives us the confidence again to set our midpoint at 470 with a range of 465 to 475. And we continue to have all 17,000 employees dedicated to our customers and communities to enable this strong performance. Our discipline in controlling cost, our progress to manage the portfolio and the significance of our future organic growth opportunities provides us with the confidence needed and raising the midpoint and nearing the guidance range. 2 weeks ago, I was really struck by the halftime performance of the Ohio State Buckeyes Marching Band. They set their goals, in my opinion, really, really high.

Speaker 2

Never did I expect to see a marching band dedicate their halftime show to the music of Rush. To hear Tom Sawyer, YYZ, Limelight and others was truly amazing when they are difficult to even play, Even though they were also marching while designing guitar players, drums, and other choreography on the field, The creativity and the execution came through to deliver a truly remarkable show. It made me think of our team at AEP. On November 11th, I've been AP CEO for 10 years and fortunate to lead a great company with great people who have an outstanding track record of delivering on the promises made to investors and customers consistently year in and year out. And we fully expect to continue our drive to take this company to the next level toward a clean energy economy and a solid infrastructure foundation by setting aggressive goals and delivering with creativity and solid execution.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn it over to Julie.

Speaker 1

Thanks so much, Nick. Thanks, Darcy. And Nick, I love your Buckeye reference. Go Bucs. Yes, I love that.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much. Big game this weekend. Anyway, it's good to be with everybody this morning. I'm going to walk us through the Q3 and year to date financial results, Share some updates on our service territory load and finish with some commentary on financing plans, credit metrics and liquidity. Let's go to Slide 6, which shows a comparison of GAAP top rating earnings for the quarter year to date periods.

Speaker 1

GAAP earnings for the Q3 were $1.59 per share compared to 1.51 cents per share in 2020. GAAP earnings through September were $3.90 per share compared to $3.56 per share in 2020. There's a reconciliation of GAAP to operating earnings on pages 1415 of the presentation today. Let's go to slide 7, where we can talk about our quarterly operating earnings Performance by segment. Operating earnings for the Q3 totaled $1.43 per share or $717,000,000 compared to 1 point And $0.47 per share or $728,000,000 in 2020.

Speaker 1

Operating earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were $0.87 per share, up $0.02 Favorable drivers included rate changes across multiple jurisdictions, weather primarily in the West, transmission revenue and lower income tax. These items were offset somewhat by higher O and M expenses due in part to lower prior year O and M, which included actions we took to adjust to the pandemic And higher depreciation expense, as well as lower normalized margins and lower AFUDC. The Transmission and Distribution Utilities segment earned $0.31 per share, flat to last year. Favorable drivers in this segment included rate changes, transmission revenue and income taxes. Offsetting these favorable items were O and M expenses again, a function of lower prior year O and M associated with pandemic grown efforts, depreciation and property taxes.

Speaker 1

The AEP Transmission Holdco segment continued to grow contributing $0.33 per share, that was an improvement of $0.05 driven by the return on investment growth. Generation and marketing produced $0.04 per share, down $0.09 from last year, influenced by the prior year land sales, lower retail volumes and margins, Generation and income taxes. Finally, corporate and other was down $0.02 per share, driven by lower investment gains and unfavorable net interest expense. This is partially offset by lower income taxes. The lower investment gains are related to a pullback of some of the charge point related gains we've talked about in prior quarters.

Speaker 1

Let's have a look at our year to date results on Slide number 8. Operating earnings through September totaled $3.76 per share or $1,900,000,000 Compared to $3.56 per share or $1,800,000,000 in 2020. Looking at the drivers by segment, Operating earnings for vertically integrated utilities were $1.87 per share, down $0.03 due to higher O and M and depreciation expenses. Other smaller decreases included lower normalized sales and wholesale load, higher other taxes and a prior period fuel adjustment. Offsetting these unfavorable variances were rate changes across various operating companies and the impact of weather due to warmer than normal temps In the winter of 2020 and the summer of 2021, which created a favorable year over year comp for us.

Speaker 1

Other favorable items in this segment included higher off Some sales, transmission revenue, net interest expense and income taxes. The Transmission and Distribution Utilities segment earned $0.85 per share, up a penny from last Earnings in this segment were up due to higher transmission revenue, rate changes, weather, normalized load and income taxes. Partially offsetting these favorable items were increased depreciation, O and M, other taxes and interest expenses. The AP Transmission HomeCo segment contributed $1.02 per share, up $0.27 from last year related to investment growth and favorable year over year true up. Generation and marketing produced $0.20 per share, down $0.11 from last year due to favorable one time items in the prior year relating to an Oakland Union ARO adjustment In the sale of Conesville and reduced land sales in 2021.

Speaker 1

Higher energy margins and lower expenses in the generation business offset The unfavorable ERCOT market prices on the wholesale business during storm Yuri in February. We also saw an unfavorable result in retail Due to lower power and gas margins, income taxes were also unfavorable. Finally, corporate and other was up $0.06 per share driven by investment gains And lower taxes and partially offset by higher O and M. Let me take a quick minute here to talk about the investment gain, which is predominantly a function of our direct and indirect investment charge point. As you'll see on the waterfall, this produced a $0.06 benefit year to date in 2021 as compared to the corresponding 2020 period.

Speaker 1

You may recall that in the Q4 and full year 2020, this investment produced a $0.05 contribution and we would expect the year over year variance To be more pronounced at this point in 2021 as we had no benefit during the same period in 2020. Turning to Page 9, I'll update you on our normalized load performance for the quarter. Before we get into the specifics, let me start by reminding everyone that everything you see on the slide is showing year over year growth. That means these numbers can be influenced by what was going on last year or what is happening now in 2021. Given all that occurred in the economy last year, it's obvious That these growth rates are at least partially being influenced by the comparison basis.

Speaker 1

This leads to the natural follow-up question like, How does today's load compare to pre pandemic level? And I'll get to that question on the next slide, but before I do, let's take a look at what our normalized load growth was for the quarter. Starting in the upper left corner, normalized residential sales were down 1.6% compared to last year, bringing the year to date decline down to 0.9%. You'll notice that last year, residential sales were up 3.8% in the 3rd quarter when the economy was just starting to reopen. 1 year later, They are down only 1.6%, which suggests there's been a shift up in residential sales as more businesses have embraced a remote workforce for jobs that The last item to point out on the residential chart is that you'll notice that we added a new bar to the right showing our latest projection for 2021 Based on the load forecast update, the original guidance assumed residential sales would decrease by 1.1% in 2021.

Speaker 1

The latest update shows an improvement as we now expect residential to end the year down 0.9%. Moving right, Weather normalized commercial sales increased by 5%, bringing the year to date growth up to 4.3%. Last year, Q3 commercial sales were down 4.6 Percent. So again, we're seeing a net positive story as the commercial sales class is bouncing back faster than expected. And while we're seeing a strong bounce back in the The sectors most impacted by the pandemic such as schools, churches and hotels were actually seeing the strongest growth in commercial sales this year from growth In Central Ohio, to give you some perspective, last year, the sector was the 9th largest commercial sector across the AP system.

Speaker 1

Today, it's the 6th largest and will likely move further up in the rankings as more data center loads are expected to come in online over the next several years. You'll also notice that our latest mode forecast update now suggests that commercial sales will end the year up 3.7% as opposed to the 0.5% decline Assumed in the original guidance forecast. The economy has recovered much faster than originally assumed, which is one of the reasons why we've updated the forecast and showing you an improvement in that regard. In the lower left corner, you'll see that industrial sales also had a very strong quarter. Industrial sales for the quarter increased by 7%, bringing the year to date up to 4.2 percent.

Speaker 1

Industrial sales were up at every operating company in nearly every sector. I'll point out, however, that the 7 2% growth in the Q3 this year did not quite offset the 7.8% decline experienced last year, which means we still have a little more room to grow Before the industrial class fully recovers from the pandemic recession. The good news is we have a lot of momentum to work with. You'll notice that the latest load update now projects Industrial sales will end the year up 4.3%, which is 2.4% higher than assumed in the original guidance forecast. Finally, when you put it all together, in the lower right corner, you'll see that normalized retail sales increased by 3% for the quarter and were up 2.3% for the 1st 9 months.

Speaker 1

By all indications, the recovery from the pandemic and recession is happening faster than expected and our service territory is positioned to benefit from future economic growth. You You'll recall that the original guidance forecast assumed normalized load growth of 0.2% in 2021. Based on our latest update, we're now expecting to end the year up 2.2%, which is a supporting factor in narrowing our earnings guidance range and raising the midpoint for 2021. Turning to Slide 10, I want to answer the question from earlier that asked how our current load performance compares to pre pandemic levels. This bar chart is designed to answer that question.

Speaker 1

The blue bars are the same year to date bars that we shared on the prior page. As a reminder, these represent growth versus 2020, Which was influenced by the restrictions implemented to manage the public health crisis. The orange bars here show how the year to date sales in 2021 compared to 2019, Which was the most recent pre pandemic year for comparison. These bars tell us how close we are to a full recovery from the pandemic. Starting at the left, you'll notice that our reported residential sales are down 0.9% compared to last year, but they're actually up 1.6 compared to our pre pandemic levels.

Speaker 1

This is a gauge for how our customers' behaviors have changed since the pandemic with more people working from home. The next bar shows that while commercial sales are up 4.3% compared to last year, they are still 0.8% below the pre pandemic levels. Given the recent growth we're seeing, especially in the data center loads, we would expect commercial sales the commercial sales cost to fully recover very soon. Moving further right, you'll notice that while the Industrial sales are up 4.2% compared to last year, they are still 3% lower than pre pandemic levels. Given some of the headwinds for manufacturing today with supply chain disruptions, labor shortages, etcetera, it may take a little longer before the industrial class fully recovers from the pandemic recession, But we do expect to eclipse the pre pandemic levels in 2022.

Speaker 1

In total, our normalized load is up 2.3% compared to last year and is now within 7 tenths of a percent of being fully recovered from the pandemic. So it's safe to say that we're pleased with the strength and balance of this Recovery in the AEP system. Let's check on the company's capitalization and liquidity on Page 11. On a GAAP basis, our debt to capital ratio decreased 0.4% from the prior quarter to 62.2%. When adjusted for the storm year end event, the ratio is slightly lower than it was at year end 2022 or sorry, 2020 and now stands at 61.5%.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about our FF loaded debt metrics. As in the first and second quarter, the effective storm here continues to have a temporary and noticeable impact on this 2021 metric. Taking a look at the upper right quadrant on this page, you'll see our SF loaded debt metric based on the traditional Moody's and GAAP calculated basis as well as on an Adjusted Moody's and GAAP calculated basis. On a traditional unadjusted basis, our FFO to debt ratio increased by 0.9% During the quarter to 10.2% on a Moody's basis and just to again reiterate rating agencies continue to take the anticipated recovery into consideration As it relates to our credit rating, so very important to note that. On an adjusted basis, the Moody's FFO to debt metric is 13 point 6%.

Speaker 1

This figure removes or adjusts the calculation to eliminate the impact of approximately $1,200,000,000 of cash outflows associated with covering the unplanned Yuri driven fuel and purchased power in the SPP region directly impacting PSO and Swepco in particular. The metric is also adjusted to remove the effect of the associated debt we used to fund the unplanned payments. This should give you a sense of where we would be from a business as usual Effective with that 13.6 percent. Importantly, as Nick mentioned, the recovery of the Yuri driven fuel and purchased power expense And the PSO and Swepco jurisdictions is well underway and we're making progress. As a result and consistent with what we have previously communicated, we still anticipate our cash flow metrics To return to the low to mid teens target range next year, obviously, we're trying to push toward the mid teens range, but that will take us a little while longer, but we're definitely on our way there.

Speaker 1

And as you know, we'll Before we leave the balance sheet topic, I do want to make note of the intended change to our 2022 financing plan In light of our announced sale of Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco, you may recall that we had planned to issue $1,400,000,000 of equity in 2022, that's inclusive Of our $100,000,000 dividend reinvestment plan to fund our growth CapEx program, while we will provide our typical 3 year forward annual review of our cash flows and Financial metrics at the upcoming EEI conference, what you can expect to see is that the 2022 forecast will be adjusted to eliminate the previous We plan $1,400,000,000 of equity financing that I just mentioned with any residual proceeds being used to reduce a small portion of the 2022 debt financing that we had planned. These actions will have no impact on our previously stated credit metric targets or messaging in that regard. In the slide deck today on Page 39, you'll see our current cash flow forecast with which you're already familiar. We've included a note on the slide to reflect the Fact that the numbers have not been updated for the announced Kentucky transaction along with the red circle around the 2022 financing equity financing amount That will be changed and updated when we roll out the new view in a couple of weeks in conjunction with the EEI conference.

Speaker 1

So while we're talking about the Kentucky transaction, I can also share We expect that the sale will be $0.01 to $0.02 accretive in 2022 and will reflect this in our 2022 earnings guidance that we provide to you at the EEI Conference. Okay. So back to our regularly scheduled earnings call programming and commentary. Let's take a quick moment to visit our liquidity summary On the lower right side of Slide 11, our 5 year $4,000,000,000 bank revolver and 2 year $1,000,000,000 Revolving credit facility along with proceeds from a quarter end debt issuance support our liquidity position, which remains really strong at $5,100,000,000 If you look at the lower left side of the page, you'll see that our qualified pension continues to be well funded at 104%. Additionally, our OPEB is funded at 173.9%.

Speaker 1

Let's Let's go to slide 12 and I'll do a quick wrap up and we can get to your questions. Our performance through the 1st three quarters of this year give us confidence To narrow our operating guidance to the upper half of our current range, resulting in a new range of $4.65 per share to $4.75 per share With a midpoint of $4.70 per share. As we've stated, we are committed to our long term growth rate target of 5% to 7%. Today's 2021 earnings guidance revision is yet another demonstration of our drive to deliver performance in the upper half of our guidance range. From a strategic perspective, we are making significant progress in addressing items that are top of mind for our current and prospective investors.

Speaker 1

We are now in contract Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco, which we expect to complete in the Q2 2022. This transaction enables us to avoid the $1,400,000,000 equity issuance that was Part of our original forecast we'd share with you for 2022 and therefore alleviates the overhang, the equity overhang and also allows us to deliver a transaction that we to be 0 point 0 $0.02 accretive in 2022. Furthermore, we're able to do this while concurrently preserving our ability to get our FFO to debt metrics comfortably Into that mid to low teens range by 2022, which is commensurate with a Moody's BAA2 stable rating. As you know, we continue to target that. The intention is to then remain in this credit metric range, again, with a preference to try to get closer to that midpoint, as we move along in time.

Speaker 1

All of this positions us to continue our generation transformation, which is underpinned by the renewable investment opportunity we've shared with you and complemented by our ongoing energy delivery So here's what you can expect to see from us at the upcoming EEI conference in early November. In addition to the updated 3 year forward cash flow and financing We'll be introducing and sharing the details behind our 2022 earnings guidance and our longer term capital plan. We typically go out 5 years, All of which will incorporate the effects of the announced Kentucky sale. So with that, surely do appreciate your time and attention, and I'm going to turn it over to the operator so we can get to your questions.

Operator

You'll hear an indication you've been placed into queue and you may remove yourself from the queue by repeating the 1 then 0 command. Also, please pick up your handset before pressing any buttons. We will go first to the line of Julien Dumont Smith. Your line is open. Go ahead, please.

Operator

I'm sorry, I'm having some technical difficulty. One moment while we open your line. Your line is open. Go ahead, please.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, team. Can you hear me now?

Speaker 2

Hey, Julian. How are you? Hey, quite well. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Congratulations on the transaction here. Nicely done. Yes. Thanks. Absolutely.

Speaker 3

So perhaps just to dive into that one a little bit more, can you talk about what happens with the Mitchell plant here As a function of the

Operator

sale, will it be transferred to Wheeling?

Speaker 3

Or how are you thinking about that visavis Liberty? And any kind of pricing therein in

Speaker 4

terms of transfer or what have you?

Speaker 2

Yes. So that's why the operating agreement is being filed. Wheeling would become the operator, And it does get transferred to Wheeling in 2028. And so, and that's really We'll continue with Kentucky being half owner of Mitchell until that period of time. So, but Wheeling will take over the operations of the plant.

Speaker 2

Those, the employees We'll move over to Wheeling as well. And then we'll continue working with the West Virginia and Kentucky Commission to get resolved the operating agreement related issues. And then, of course, at the end of 2028, it transfers over at a fair market value top of approach. So that's the plan. And that'll get filed here in November December timeframe, And we'll go through that.

Speaker 2

And actually, both commissions have the incentive to get this resolved because We do have various views of the ELG piece of it. So regardless of whether we had this transaction or not, We would be needing to file for the operating agreement change out just because the different directions that the commissions have gone. So we'll get that resolved as part and parcel to the overall approvals.

Speaker 3

Excellent. Nicely done. Fair market value it is. And then just vis a vis ongoing transactions and portfolio valuation, I mean, Clearly, I'll leave you with the equity news here in the very near term. How do you think about just continued evaluation of your portfolio here?

Speaker 3

I mean, clearly, it's not necessarily a near term dynamic, but I want to give you the opportunity to speak to that a little bit further.

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. I mean, I've said over and over, I guess, For a couple of years now, but even beyond that, we do have to get to portfolio management to enable us to look at the sources and uses of the capital needs that we have and to manage the balance sheet as Julie has mentioned. And we target the mid teens and we want to get there. And obviously, we're well on our way of getting there. So we want to do that, but at the same time, be able to fund the capital growth.

Speaker 2

And when you think about it, We've sold the unregulated generation. We sold RiverOps. We sold some hydro related facilities. And with Kentucky, You're talking about $6,000,000,000 of assets that have been sold, but they fueled substantial growth, I mean, to the tune of It's $7,000,000,000 a year in capital. So it's part of the process to determine what the portfolio Needs to be in the future, and we'll continue to do that.

Speaker 2

Certainly, we have Chuck and Julie and others will continue to review That portfolio and we'll manage it in the proper way. I think, you know, it and I'll say this, Kentucky Power, you think about the threshold, at one point, we talked about we always invested in coal units no matter what. And obviously, we've changed that focus to make sure it's more deliberative in terms of the decision points that are made. It's quite a move for AEP to get to a point where we're managing our portfolio in a way that, first of all, we became fully regulated, And then we start to look at that portfolio to determine, okay, what's the best approach to fuel $20,000,000,000 and potential renewables investment. So when you think about that, we have to consider it.

Speaker 2

And I can tell you, I mean, the last time we sold a regulated utility was, I guess, The Scranton, Pennsylvania system in the Pennsylvania I mean, in Pennsylvania and the New Jersey system Back in the, like, 1940s 50s. So it's a pretty substantial change. And when you think about Kentucky Power itself, It was one of the first acquisitions of American Gas and Electric in 1922. So by the time we get through this, it's Been 100 years. So when you think about the threshold level of portfolio management that has occurred in this company, It really should shine a lot in terms of our seriousness of making sure that we're managing that portfolio in a proper way.

Speaker 2

That's probably longer answer than what you asked for, but I wanted to at least get all that out there.

Speaker 3

Absolutely. Very much appreciate it. I'll leave it there. See you guys soon.

Operator

Okay. We'll next go to the line of Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Go ahead, please.

Speaker 2

Good morning, JR.

Speaker 5

Good morning, guys, and congrats on Kentucky.

Speaker 6

Yes. Just

Speaker 5

a follow-up on Julian's question a little bit more. As we sort of think about trigger points For another asset sale, what's kind of the catalyst? Because the 10 gigawatts of solar and wind that you're looking to build through 2025, I mean, even if you assume a fifty-fifty owned PPA structure could yield an incremental $3,000,000,000 right of spending opportunities. And you obviously have a slew of IRPs. So do you need to see affirmations with the various filings or actual approvals and GRCs?

Speaker 5

So how should we sort of think about how these could be funded, especially in light

Speaker 2

of where the stock trades? Yes, yes. And when When you think about the way we're approaching the renewables piece of it, the process has been that we time The need for equity associated with those particular investments when they actually come online and we get regulated recovery. So We get the cash flow to support those investments at the time they come online. And that means, obviously, our FFO to debt doesn't suffer as a result of that.

Speaker 2

So if we continue that approach And keep in mind too, I've always said that for us to take a look at A regulated entity or other parts of our portfolio doesn't match the future needs in terms of where we are And where we're going as a company is there, if we have a chronically underperforming part of the portfolio, It's important for us to take a look at it. Now that may be temporary. It could be long term, but certainly, we have to make sure that we're evaluating Each one of these assets in a way that says, okay, it doesn't matter We know where it's located. As long as we're getting certainly the return expectation and also the forward view of the utility is positive and that's comparative with others. So we have to compare in various parts of our service territories and that's where we make those decisions.

Speaker 2

Perfect.

Speaker 5

And then just Nick, I appreciate we're going to head into EEI, we'll get an update here. But Do you see the current renewable additions at least through 25 to 10 gigawatts, right, between solar and wind Swinging materially with some of these counteractive items like federal policy benefits versus the input cost pressures we're Seeing in the space impacting some project timings. So do you see any of this swinging at all?

Speaker 2

Yes, I do. And when we actually go do the analysis And we've done analysis for all the jurisdictions, but conditions change, load changes, certainly PTCs, ITCs can Change as a result, which changed the business cases where some may have been on the margins, particularly in the East, now become benefits to customers. So I think those numbers will continue to change. And I can tell you from what I've seen so far, those numbers will change. And some will go up, some will go down, but overall, nominally, it should be on path to what we've talked about.

Speaker 2

And we'll have more to report on that probably during Q1 'twenty two because we'll have the Integrated Resource Plans. And when those Integrated Resource Plans are filed, that's what I mentioned today is you'll have a more definitive View of what those projects look like because they'll be the results of RFPs And that'll be the results of actual projects that are put in for regulated approval. So more definition, but I would certainly say that normally, it will be in that category we previously discussed.

Speaker 1

And Sheryl, what we should anticipate is When we go to EEI, you'll see a refreshed 5 year forward CapEx plan, so 'twenty two through 'twenty six And you'll start to begin to see a little bit more of this renewable opportunity dropped in. So stay tuned for that and we'll be able to talk more granularly with you here in a couple

Speaker 2

of weeks. Yes. And I would say that when you see that, it certainly will reflect I don't know if you call it risk adjusted approach or whatever, but it's a nominal view for us to make financial plans. And then Just like with North Central, we make decisions on whether it goes up or down based upon our ownership.

Speaker 5

Got it. Terrific, guys. Congrats on the results, Jason.

Operator

Thank you. We will next go to the line of Steve Fleishman with Wilkes Research. Go ahead, please. Yes. Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2

Can you hear me, Nick? Yes. Oh, yes, I

Speaker 7

can hear you.

Speaker 4

Good morning. Okay, great. Thanks. One question that might be a bit premature, but there's obviously a lot going on in D. C.

Speaker 4

With The reconciliation bill in the LAIK and one of the provisions that's gotten more focused in the last few days is the minimum tax provision. And I'd just be curious kind of how you're thinking for larger companies like yourself, How are you thinking if that has any impact for largely regulated utility like you? Or does it not really have much of an impact?

Speaker 2

Well, I would say, and we've been vocal about this and the industry has been vocal about it, If you put a minimum 15% tax and a lot of us are, as you know, heavy on capital and It's growth capital and it's also infrastructure related capital. So an increase in the with a minimum tax We certainly have a cooling effect on our ability to continue with not only development of infrastructure and have an effect on that, not to mention customers' bills ultimately because The taxes were passed through to our customers, but also, the administration has a focus on clean energy, And it will have an effect on renewables transformation that's existing as well. So I think it will put a pay all over all the utilities' ability To continue investing capital in the way that we are. If now if we do, do that, Then obviously, there's customer impacts associated with it. And again, it's sort of a hidden tax on our customers.

Speaker 2

So we're not we're actually not for it. We're not for that provision. I think actually, We've been very forthright about this and trying to be an honest broker when we were talking about CEPP and all the other things that It was important for us to be able to make this transformation from a clean energy standpoint and certainly the PTCs, ITCs with Expansion of long term storage, nuclear and but certainly in terms of wind and solar Very important to continue this process to move to a clean energy economy, and we can get a long way there. This industry is very focused on doing that, and any kind of tax headwind that goes the other direction is not helpful. And I think you'll probably hear that across the board.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 4

And more to More direct AP things. Just on the approval for the Kentucky sale, could you remind us what the standard for approval is in Kentucky. Is it just in the public interest or net benefits?

Speaker 2

Yes. It's in the public interest, obviously, because they have to look at the suitor and determine, is that the right Right approach and is it done in the proper way? And actually, there's been some discussions in Kentucky previously. I think it's probably Going past some of that now that we want to make sure we were operating Kentucky the way we should. And we've been operating it the way we always have.

Speaker 2

So we've been investing, we've been doing the things that we need to do, whether we owned it or not. And I think that the certainly, The buyer has recognized that. And during the transition, we will continue to support A smooth transition to ensure that the services provided and the things that need to be done to make Kentucky Power successful, We'll be there to do it. So and of course, we'll support Liberty Utilities and Algonquin in doing that.

Speaker 4

Great. And then one just quick question maybe for Julie. Just The proceeds from the Kentucky sale look like they're matching up pretty much one for 1 with reducing the equity need, but obviously when you sell an asset, you lose some cash flow, albeit Kentucky Maybe it wasn't having the best cash flow. So just are there like offsets in other businesses that are making up for the lost cash flow from the asset sale.

Speaker 1

Yes. Thanks for the question, Steve. You're right. I mean, we do lose the funds from operation as it relates To Kentucky and Kentucky Transco, although we got to keep in mind that we also eliminated about $1,300,000,000 Of debt associated with those assets too because that goes away. And then the other thing that we think through just to take it a step further is So if we avoid issuing equity, we avoid having to cover off additional dividends that were in our original plan.

Speaker 1

So I'm able to sidestep that as well. And that comes with maybe also having some additional dollars to reduce debt at the parent. As I mentioned in my opening comments, Anything above and beyond that $1,400,000,000 will channel toward debt reduction that was otherwise planned for 2022. And then also keep in mind that Kentucky Power had very strained FFO to debt to begin with. So to eliminate that piece of, I guess, drag to the overall average FFO to debt for the organization is also a net positive for us.

Speaker 1

So we're able to be able to put these numbers together. And Quite frankly, from an FFO to debt perspective, it is very mildly beneficial and obviously a little A bit of a cost on the debt to cap because we're not issuing additional equity, but the numbers all do hang together. And coincidentally, we're able to take Literally that $1,400,000,000 of planned equity out of plan, and again, you'll see that at EEI when we refresh the forecast.

Operator

Great. Thanks so much. Thanks, Dave. We'll next go to the line of Durgesh Chopra with Evercore ISI. Go ahead, please.

Operator

Good morning, GES.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, Nick. Maybe just along the FFO

Speaker 2

to debt lines, my first question is to Julie.

Speaker 6

Just in terms of 2024, I'm thinking about your equity needs in my model. Should is the target for FFO to debt actually is it mid teens or is it low to mid teens? Because obviously, that's going to dictate, right, how much equity you might need in 2024. So any color you could share there?

Speaker 1

Yes. Got you. You'll see 20 24 when we roll out our EEI guidance, so 3 years forward. But as we continue to say, we're talking about mid to low teens. And the reason I say that is, As I mentioned today, if you look at our FFO to debt on an adjusted basis, so backing out the yearly consequence, we're something like 13.6% on a Moody's basis.

Speaker 1

As you know, our target has been to be around that BAA to stable rating. That's why we talk about mid to low teens or low to mid teens. Obviously, our preference And our expectation is to start to push more toward what I would characterize as mid. It'd be nice to have at least a 14 handle on that FFO to debt, And that is absolutely the plan, but we'll be able to share more with you as we get to EEI and unveil That forecast, but I wouldn't change how you're thinking about it. So think about mid to low teens as it relates to Moody's, Baa2, with a preference toward 14 ish plus percent.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. So it sounds like normal to low teens To 2024 here. Just big picture question, just we've talked again about natural gas prices. So Let me just talk about your gas generation portfolio, fuel costs, any hedges and impact on customer bills?

Speaker 1

Yes. I'll take this from a customer rate perspective, if I could, because that's how we think about it, because ultimately Impacts our customers. When you think about, for example, do some sensitivity analyses around, let's say, a 10% hike in natural gas prices, as we all know, they've gone up substantially. The impact to customer rates varies significantly from one operating company to the next depending on the fuel mix. So for example, if I looked at Appalachian Power Company, The average residential impact price in terms of a 10% hike in gas prices would equate to about a 0.9% increase And the customers' rate.

Speaker 1

Let's compare and contrast that to, say, a PSO or Swepco where there's much more gas concentration. So PSO, we'd be talking about 1 point 6% increase in customer rates, swap code 1.5%. So this is something we are very sensitive to because as you know, overall, we're Extremely sensitive to customer rate increases in the aggregate as we continue to execute on our general CapEx program. And I don't know if, Nick, you had any additional questions?

Speaker 2

Yes. I'd say certainly, your question actually shows the reinforcement of our renewables transformation because it's a perfect hedge To natural gas, if North Central were in place during the time of storm Yuri, it would have saved customers $225,000,000 So when you think about The process we're going through, it's great to have natural gas. It's and certainly but at the times Where you can layer in renewables to do that, it turns out to be a significant benefit to consumers. So it reinforces that. And And I think probably this winter, we'll show it.

Speaker 6

Understood. Thanks, guys. I appreciate the time. Yes. Thank you.

Operator

We'll next go to the line of Andrew Weisel with Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, please. Good morning, Andrew. Hey, good morning. Thanks for a lot of

Speaker 2

good updates here. One remaining question I had was after a few rate case settlements and expectations For several other outstanding cases to be resolved in the coming months, can you share your expectations around which subs might file new rate cases over the next 12 months or so? We yes, I'm trying to think of what else we would Following because in just not every jurisdiction, we have a case that we expect approval of and certainly A lot of cases that are still ongoing in just about all the jurisdictions. So I'd say we're always reviewing that on a regular basis at this point. We have plenty of active cases that we got to get across the finish line and then determine where we're at.

Speaker 2

The other part too It's okay. What happens to the denominator? Because as Julie mentioned, load is changing significantly And it continues to do that as we emerge from hopefully a post COVID world. And If that's the case, then that will be a determinant in terms of when we would file for any case. So And I think, of course, if we do have tax changes that occur, Then that will force a whole new view going forward to many of these cases, just like it did when we got tax reform last time around, except this one may be on the upside.

Speaker 2

Okay, great. So would it be fair to say that 'twenty two At least, the second half of 'twenty two might be a quieter year as far as the regulatory calendar. They won't be here.

Speaker 7

Yes, it's

Speaker 2

not quite in terms of filings, but probably Noisy in terms of results. All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

We will go next one moment, please. We'll go next to the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, please.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Hey, Nick.

Speaker 3

How are you doing?

Speaker 7

I'm fine. Rough year for your Bayou Bengals this year. A lot of change. Hey, got a couple of questions for you. With the Kentucky sale in, and you guys have and your Slide number 5, I think it is over the years has done a good job of detailing how hard it's been on authorized in Kentucky.

Speaker 7

Now that Kentucky will be kind of off your plate, when you look at the other jurisdictions, what are the ones where you say, hey, we Still struggle to earn authorized here. And what are the structural changes, whether it's legislation and we've seen lots of Utilities in places like North Carolina, Kansas, Missouri go in and make structural changes via legislation. What are the Structural changes you're going to seek outside of just normal rate case filings that could help improve authorized versus earned returns in those jurisdictions.

Speaker 2

Yes. You're seeing a pretty fundamental shift in all the remaining operating companies. We've made a lot of progress on riders, and we have a lot of focus on getting concurrent recovery and cash in the door. And what you're seeing really in terms of a lot of these lags is the amount of investment that we're placing in these companies. But as well, As you make the transition from certainly from wires related activities with riders and then the renewables conversion that occurs the way we're doing the renewables is commensurate with the recovery.

Speaker 2

So we should see The authorized our returns be closer to the authorized as time goes forward. We don't see any fundamental issues In any of the jurisdictions that are left that says that we have significant headwinds, I mean, the only thing you could probably point to Is the is the Turk issue at Swepco. But other than that, and actually, when you think about Arkansas, And, you know, we keep saying we're not recovering the Arkansas portion portion of TURC. That's not because of the commission. That was because of the Supreme Court of Arkansas.

Speaker 2

So we've got very good relations with the Commissions and all the jurisdictions, and we feel like the fundamentals are there for continued improvement relative To that regulatory lag that exists and because we're spending on more areas and our generation is really renewables And that's helping out. Every time we put an investment in and the timing of the investment improves FFO to debt, improves The returns of the individual companies, and I think we'll continue to make progress in that regard. So I would be, I'm pretty optimistic that we'll continue to make progress in all of these jurisdictions.

Speaker 7

Got it. And just a quick follow-up and this may be a julie one. Just curious, when we think about your multiyear kind of Your guidance, growth rate and kind of the language around wanting to be at the high end. Outside of the transmission segment, The standalone segment, what does that embed as a earned ROE at the rest of it kind of regulated businesses?

Speaker 1

Yes. And so Michael, as Nick mentioned, we strive to be in the upper half of the guidance range, not necessarily the upper end, but that'd be very nice. So just a point of clarification there. And as it relates to returns, as you can see, we've kind of been hovering around the 9% ROE Return level, I think that's a safe place for you to assume that we'll kind of hang out there for a while until we get a little more traction. Another thing, if I could, circling back to your original question, when we look at the equalizer chart, oftentimes we get questions around AEP Texas And why the lower ROE relative to authorize there.

Speaker 1

And so back to your question around growth and how do you manage the business, At AP Texas, we continue to invest a significant amount of capital on an annualized basis. And while we have very progressive Weight recovery mechanisms in place that we really enjoy. I can tell you this, while the ROE may look a touch depressed relative to authorized, That company continues to produce earnings growth into, say, the 8% to 10% range. So that certifies our ability to, back to your original point, Getting that upper half of the range. So again, ROE, our system wide average, assume Roughly around 9% -ish and trending upward over time.

Speaker 1

And then around AEP Texas, keep in mind the capital is intentional there as we continue to try to take care of the customer and grow that business and it's paying dividends in the sense that we're getting 8% to 10% QPS growth out of it.

Speaker 2

Yes. And the other thing Yes. So I got to is and we have it on that page is actually the increase in equity layers as well. So you see improvement in the equity layers and then we're still investing And still meeting the 5% to 7% and being in the upper half and that kind of thing. So, and of course, we continue to manage The FFO to debt towards the mid teens.

Speaker 2

So all of the pieces are starting to fit together and there's a lot of optimization that will occur for us to execute on to ensure that we're continuing to meet the earnings objectives, but at the same time, investing in the right things that enable us to bridge that gap on the regulatory lag.

Speaker 7

Got it. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated. Congrats on Kentucky. Yes.

Speaker 7

Sure thing.

Speaker 1

Thanks.

Operator

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