CMS Energy Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 27, 2021

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and As a reminder, there will be a rebroadcast of this conference call beginning today 12 pm Eastern Time running through November 4. This presentation is also being webcast and is available on CMS Energy's website At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Sri Madhipati, Treasurer and Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Rocco. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. With me are Gerrick Rochow, Chief Executive Officer and Reggie Hayes, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This presentation contains forward looking statements, are subject to risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our SEC filings for more information regarding the risks and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially.

Speaker 1

This presentation also includes non GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the appendix and posted on our website. Now I'll turn the call over to Gary.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Sri, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I'm pleased to share we've delivered another strong quarter and continue to be ahead of plan for the year. I'll walk through the specifics in a moment, But I couldn't be more pleased with the strong execution demonstrated by the team, both operationally and financially. We continue to deliver every day for our customers, coworkers and for you, our investors. Earlier this month, We completed the sale of EnerBank grossing over $1,000,000,000 in proceeds.

Speaker 2

I want to thank the entire team that brought this to close. The sale of the bank simplifies and focuses our business model squarely on energy, primarily the regulated utility, an important step as we continue to lead the clean energy transformation. The proceeds from this sale will fund key initiatives in our utility business related to safety, reliability, resiliency and our clean energy transformation. As shared in previous calls, we have eliminated our equity needs from 2022 through 2024. Furthermore, Reggie will highlight in his prepared remarks how we have continued to reduce this year's equity needs as well.

Speaker 2

The key word there continued. As we double down on the clean energy transformation, I am also pleased to share that we received approval for our voluntary green pricing program, which would add an additional 1,000 megawatts of owned renewable generation to our growing renewable portfolio. This and the program is in high demand and currently oversubscribed. And more importantly, it's what our customers are asking for, an important step offering renewable energy solutions for our customers. As we prepare for the grid of the future.

Speaker 2

We have a highly visible and detailed capital plans outlined in our recently filed electric to ensure the reliability and resiliency of our electric infrastructure and aligns with our operational and financial plans. As always, we balance these investments with customer affordability. Our prices remain competitive as the average residential customer pays about $2 a day to heat their home and $4 a day keep the lights on. And because we know our most vulnerable customers still struggle, our team has mobilized resources at the state and federal levels to ensure their protection. In fact, as we approach the winter heating season, our 90 day arrears are back to pre pandemic levels with an 80% reduction in our uncollectible accounts.

Speaker 2

Our commitment to identifying and eliminating waste means that we keep our prices affordable. This commitment is evident in our results. In the 1st 9 months of this year, we surpassed our full year cost reduction target of more than $40,000,000 The CEway is in our DNA and we continue to deliver savings in the near term into the future. Speaking of the future, this year we grew our EV program with Power MyFleet. This is part of our long term planning and collaboration with Michigan businesses, government and school systems looking to electrify their vehicle fleets.

Speaker 2

Within just a few months of the program introduction, we are working with nearly 20 different on their fleets and have another 50 who have indicated interest for the next launch, exceeding our expectations. This is an important contribution to our long term sales growth. And finally, one of my favorites, which speaks to our culture, our coworkers and our ability to attract the best talent. Our commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion continues to be recognized nationwide and most recently by Forbes, where we are ranked the number one utility in the U. S.

Speaker 2

For both America's best employers for women and number 1 for diversity. Delivering excellence every day continues to position the business for sustainable long term growth. Strong execution leads to strong results. The 2 are linked. 1 drives the other.

Speaker 2

In early August, we experienced one of the worst storms in our company's history. Our team established an incident command structure to deploy resources and took decisive action to restore customers. We had a record number of crews on our system. The speed of our response led to the highest positive customer sentiment we have ever received during a major storm. I would be remiss if I didn't take a moment to thank all our coworkers who responded to the call.

Speaker 2

During the storm, we had more than 3,700 members of our team working around the clock to safely restore customers. Like we do every year, through storms, pandemics unseasonal weather, we continue to deliver. And when there's upside, we reinvest. This is the CMS model of responding to changing conditions that allows us to deliver consistently year after year. Year to date, we've delivered ahead of plan with adjusted earnings per share of 2.18 dollars for continuing operations.

Speaker 2

Our strong performance coupled with the completion of the Interbank transaction and the financial flexibility that provides gives us further confidence in our ability to meet our full year guidance, which we've raised volume to $2.63 to $2.65 from $2.61 $2.65 for continuing operations. For 2022, we are reaffirming our adjusted full year guidance of $2.85 to $2.87 per share and our continued strong performance in 2021 builds momentum for 2022 and beyond. Longer term, we are committed to growing our adjusted EPS toward the high end of our 6% to 8% growth range as we highlighted on our Q2 call. As previously stated, we are committed to growing the dividend in 2022 and beyond. It's what you expect, why you own us and we know it's a big part of our value.

Speaker 2

As we move forward, we continue to see long term dividend growth of 6% to 8% with a targeted payout ratio of about 60% over time. Many of you have asked about gas prices and the impact on our business and more importantly, our customers. Let me tell you about our gas business. We have one of the largest storage fields in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Compression resources to match. That is a significant advantage. We started putting natural gas into our storage fields in April and continued throughout the summer when natural gas prices were low. Right now, our fields are full and ready to deliver for our customers' heating needs throughout the winter months. Most of the gas is already locked in at just under $3 1,000 cubic feet, which is well below current levels in the spot market and offers tremendous customer value.

Speaker 2

Given the operational certainty of storage as well as the financial protection of a pass through clause, our customers stay safe and warm all winter long and have affordable bills. HEAT in Michigan is not an option we don't leave it up to the market. We buy, store and deliver. That's what we do. Michigan's strong regulatory construct is known across the industry as one of the best.

Speaker 2

It includes the Integrated Resource plan process, which is a result of legislation designed to ensure timely recovery of the necessary investments to advance safe, reliable clean energy in our state. Michigan's forward looking test years and 3 year preapproval structure of the IRP process gives visibility on our future growth. It enables the company and the commission to align on long term generation supply planning and provide certainty as we invest in our clean energy transformation. Here's what I like about our recently filed IRP. There is a win in it for everyone.

Speaker 2

It is a remarkable plan that addresses many of the interests of our stakeholders. It ensures supply reliability. It reduces costs and it delivers industry leading carbon emission reductions. It's clean. We continue to have constructive dialogue with the staff other stakeholders, and we anticipate seeing their positions later today.

Speaker 2

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Reggie.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Garik, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to offer the details of another strong quarter the financial performance at CMS as a result of solid execution across the company. As a brief reminder, throughout our materials, we report the financial performance of EnerBank as discontinued operations, thereby removing it as a reportable segment and reporting our quarterly and year to date results from continuing operations in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Now on to the results. For the Q3, we delivered adjusted net income of $156,000,000 or $0.54 per share.

Speaker 3

The key drivers for the quarter were higher service restoration expenses attributable to the Argus storms that Garik mentioned planned increases in other operating and maintenance expenses in support of key customer and operational initiatives. These sources of negative variance for the quarter were partially offset by favorable weather, the continued recovery of commercial and industrial sales in our electric business and higher rate relief net of investment related expenses. Year to date, we've delivered adjusted net income of $628,000,000 $2.18 per share, which is up $0.19 per share versus the 1st 9 months of 2020, heading into the Q4. The waterfall chart on Slide 8 provides more detail on the key year to date drivers of our financial performance versus 2020. For the 1st 9 months of the year, rate relief continues to be the primary driver of our positive year over year variance to the tune of $0.45 per share given the constructive regulatory outcomes achieved in the second half of twenty twenty for our electric and gas businesses.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, our rate relief figures are stated net of investment related costs such as depreciation and amortization, property the utility. This upside has been partially offset by the aforementioned storms in the quarter, wallet which drove $0.16 per share of negative variance versus the Q3 of 2020 and $0.11 per share of downside on a year to date basis versus the comparable period in 2020. To round out the customer initiatives bucket, planned increases in our operating and maintenance expenses to fund safety, reliability and decarbonization initiatives added the balance of spend for the 1st 9 months of the year, which in addition to the August storm activity added $0.35 per share of negative variance versus the comparable period in 2020. As a reminder, these cost categories are shown net of cost savings realized to date, which as Garik mentioned have already exceeded our target for the year with more upside to come. To close out our year to date performance, we also benefited from favorable weather relative to 2020 in the amount of $0.07 per share and another $0.02 per share of upside largely driven by recovering commercial and industrial load.

Speaker 3

As we look ahead to the remainder of the year, we feel quite good about the glide path for delivering on our EPS guidance range, which has been revised upward to $2.63 to $2.65 per share as Garrick noted. As we look ahead, we continue to plan for normal weather, which in this case translates to 0 point 0 $6 dollars per share of positive variance given the absence of the unfavorable weather experienced in the Q4 of 2020. Will also continue to benefit from the residual impact of our 2020 rate orders, which equates to $0.07 per share and is not subject to any further MPSC actions. And we'll make steady progress on our operational and customer related initiatives, which are forecasted to have a financial impact of roughly $0.07 per share of negative variance versus the comparable period in 2020. Lastly, we will assume the usual conservatism in our utility, nonweather sales assumptions and our non utility segment performance.

Speaker 3

All in, we are pleased with our strong execution to date in 2021 and are well positioned for the remainder of the year. Turning to Slide 9, I am pleased to highlight that this year's financing plan has been completed ahead of schedule. In the Q3, we issued $300,000,000 of 1st mortgage bonds at a coupon rate of 2.65%,

Speaker 2

one of

Speaker 3

the lowest rates ever achieved at Consumers Energy. We also remarketed $35,000,000 of tax exempt revenue bonds earlier this month at a rate of under 1% through 2026. Due to the strong execution implied by these record setting issuances coupled with the EnerBank sale, which provided approximately $60,000,000 of upside relative to the sale price announced at signing, we now have the flexibility to reduce our equity needs for the year even further, which will now be limited to the $57,000,000 the quality of equity forwards we have already contracted. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Garik for some concluding remarks before we open it up for Q and A.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Reggie. Our simple investment thesis has stood the test of time and continues to be our approach going forward. It's grounded in a balanced commitment to all our stakeholders, enables us to continue to deliver on our financial objectives. As we've highlighted today, we've executed on our commitment to the triple bottom line through the 1st 9 months of the year. We're pleased to have delivered strong results.

Speaker 2

We're positioned well to continue that momentum into the last 3 months of the year as we move past the sale of the bank and continue progress through the IRP process. This is an exciting time at CMS Energy. With that, Rocco, please open the lines for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you very much, Garik. And today's first question comes from Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning team. It's actually Constantine here for Shar and congrats on a challenging but successful quarter.

Speaker 2

Thanks guys, the team.

Speaker 4

I have a quick question on the cadence of long term growth that you reiterated today. So the 2022 guidance implies a top of the range performance as you mentioned and kind of you expect to execute at the high end. And one of the opportunities obviously the IRP, but that may take some time for approval of execution. Just does the 8% growth some incremental CapEx to the prior plan or any kind of financing items? And is there any change to the glide path or timing impact of kind of the near term dilution from the business optimizations?

Speaker 2

Well, let me tag team this with Reggie, but here's what I'll offer and here's what you should hear from this call. High confidence in 2021 and that momentum carries into 2022. And we reaffirmed our guidance for that time period of the $2.85 to $2.87 And as we said in previous calls, when I look out at 20 office 2022 base, it continues to be at this growth rate of 6% to 8% and I would expect us to be toward the high end of that. Now you know we plan conservatively and in Q4 we'll provide our capital plan. We expect that capital plan to grow the things you would be familiar with, the gas system, the electric system and the supply system.

Speaker 2

However, the IRP and particularly the Covert plant in 2023 and the dig assets in 2025 are upside to that plan. And once we have complete certainty that IRP process. Those provide the opportunity for upside to the plan. And so I mean that's the there's a great deal of confidence that I have about our this 5 year window when I look at from 2021 through 2025. But certainly, Reggie, Ben to add some additional context.

Speaker 3

Derek, I think you laid it out well. And Constantine, the only thing I would add just to give you a bit more specifics around the numbers. So our current plan that we're executing on for 5 years or 2021 through 2025 is about $13,200,000,000 We have not changed that, but we are assuming that we'll increase that by about $1,000,000,000 next year and the vintage into Garrick's comments, that does not presuppose any outcome for the IRP and there's about $1,300,000,000 of additional capital investment opportunities that is on the outside looking in, which just gives us more confidence in the plan. We also are not planning to issue equity. And so there's a funding efficiency that will also be accretive to our financial performance as we see it.

Speaker 3

And what's also not in the plan from a capital investment perspective that Garrick offered in his prepared remarks was a voluntary green pricing program that we got approval on, which offers about a gigawatt of capital investment opportunities, specifically renewable spend that we would own from 24 through 27. So all of that's on the outside looking in. So you can see why we have great confidence in our ability to deliver towards that high end off of the 2022 base.

Speaker 4

Perfect. I think that's very comprehensive. And maybe just shifting to the regulatory process for a bit. Just on the IRP,

Speaker 5

can you talk about

Speaker 4

how you're building kind of some

Speaker 6

of the

Speaker 4

stakeholder comfort with the kind of asset retirement and ragged acid treatment and the kind of the mechanisms that you're proposing? And does any of the thinking change around the generation portfolio in light of the commodity shifts that we have seen?

Speaker 2

Well, I'll offer this one and then just credit to the team here at Consumers Energy and CMS Energy, there's been an extensive stakeholder process and engagement with staff with interveners with the public that's led up to the filing and has continued through the filing process. And so I feel really confident about the messages and the testimony are strong and solid and will yield really good outcomes. But In my prepared remarks, I said there's a win in this for everyone. And I really believe that. When you look at this plan, supply, we've done the modeling.

Speaker 2

It's more reliable plan than the past. It's more affordable, dollars 650,000,000 of savings in this plan over the previous plan. And we cut carbon emissions by 60% planned. And we cut carbon emissions by 60% by 2025, well ahead of the Paris Accord, the equivalent of taking 12,500,000 cars off the road. And from my standpoint here in the regulatory asset treatment, as I shared in the Q2 call, great testimony, and I think we're going to have a constructive dialogue and certainly a supportive dialogue we'll see this afternoon in the intervener comments.

Speaker 2

And so There is a win in here for everyone and when there is a win in there for everyone, there is a great path to a great outcome and I believe that we saw that in 2018 2019 and so I'm looking forward to seeing staff and intervenors' testimony this afternoon. It's going to be supportive. It will be balanced. It will be constructive. And where there are differences, we've done that before.

Speaker 2

Just look at our 2018, 2019 IRP. I feel good about where we're at in the process.

Speaker 4

Perfect. Thank you. That's very comprehensive and I'll jump back in the queue.

Speaker 2

Congrats. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. I just want to pick up on the CapEx side here and just wanted to see how you're thinking about grid hardening investments at this point. Specifically, do you think in reaction to the storms this summer, we could kind of see more movement on this side?

Speaker 2

Let me offer this. As I shared in my prepared remarks, we had a great response during the storm. And I'll be really clear, the fact pattern of storms has been different across the state. We've had one major storm. But if you stand back and look at the big picture and look forward from a strategy perspective.

Speaker 2

There certainly is a call for greater resiliency and grid hardening. And that's an opportunity, opportunity from an investment we'll continue to see a significant opportunity to create greater value for our customers. And so I think there's a couple of things driving that. 1, we're seeing more severe weather, not just in Michigan, but across the U. S.

Speaker 2

And so that is certainly a driver in the equation. And then 2, when we think about this transition to electric vehicles and be able to support those vehicles, not only do we need the capacity out there to be able to do that, their ability to get to work. That's a whole new standard of performance. And so again, big picture perspective, looking at forward to the future, I see this as an opportunity, an inflection point where we spend more time and thinking about resiliency and grid hardening. I'll share one last point on this.

Speaker 2

I've had the opportunity post storm to talk with the Governor, to talk with the Chair Scripps. And I can't speak for them, but certainly and we'll continue to see some of the opportunities that we're seeing in the future. And we're seeing a positive direction when we talk about how do we design the grid for the future with climate change and with severe weather in mind. And so again it's an opportunity for investors and an opportunity to create additional value for our customers.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's very helpful. Thanks for that. And maybe just thinking about load as we exit pandemic here. Just wondering if you could provide thoughts, I guess, as far as trends by class and really on the residential side, how you're seeing, I guess, stickiness there and just any thoughts that you could share on that side?

Speaker 3

Jeremy, this is Reggie. I can offer some color there. And we do have a slide in our appendix of the presentation, which helpful Slide 13, I'll point you to also the detailed 15 page digest also has some good content and load. But what I can say at very high levels. We continue to be encouraged by the residential weather normalized load we're seeing.

Speaker 3

You probably saw year to date down roughly 2%, but that certainly compares favorable to plan where we assumed a more aggressive return to facilities for workers. And so we do think that this sort of hybrid format or mass teleworking trend should carry on we're still in the middle of the year, we're still in

Speaker 7

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Speaker 6

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 6

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Speaker 6

We're still in the middle of the year. We're still in the middle of the year. We're still in the and

Speaker 3

you see this down 2%, that's in excess of plan. And so we see performance to the upside there. And then we also compare the pre pandemic level and relative to 2019, we're up about 2.5%. And so we do think there's a very nice bit of resiliency to the residential load and again it offers a higher margin relative to the other customer classes as you know.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Insoo Kim at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, it's Rebecca on for Insoo. Thanks for taking our questions. So for the ALJ decision on your rate case, it was roughly 20 percent of your requested revenue increase. So can you describe which items constitute the difference? And then if this gets adopted, Would this impact your 2022 and 2023 growth trajectory?

Speaker 2

Well, I'll offer this. I really view this PFD the ALJ as a bookend. And Michigan's constructive regulatory environment and this commission and previous commissions have really shown a balanced and constructive approach. And again, I can't speak for the commissioners, but my interaction with the commissioners would suggest they believe and support healthy utilities, good outcomes from electric and gas rate cases. And when you have those and have similar goals, it leads to good outcomes.

Speaker 2

And so I view we're going to get an outcome in this electric order that's in December that's both constructive and balanced, good for Michigan's residents, Michigan our customers and frankly good for CMS Energy. But Reggie, if you want to just jump into some

Speaker 3

the differences? Yes. Rebecca, thanks for the question. And so what I would add there is you do have a few sources as a component. So we asked for 10.5% ROE.

Speaker 3

The ALJ was at 9.7% and so that makes up a good portion of the difference. So you see a difference in equity thickness and so we were at 52% equity relative to debt. And the PFD was about point lower than that, call it 51 and change. And so those are the primary sources of difference. There also were differences in opinion on the capital required to really strengthen and harden the system.

Speaker 3

And so I think there if memory serves me, there's about a $250,000,000 of capital investments that we were proposing for resiliency and reliability, which obviously we think is critically important, particularly on the heels of the the storm activity we saw and we saw that also as a recommended disallowance of future spend. And so I'd say those are the major buckets there. And I think once you normalize for where the prevailing ROE and equity thickness are, you start to tighten that gap, but it's primarily to those buckets.

Speaker 9

Okay, thanks. And then for the EDIP, how much of that is in your 5 year base plan? And would that be incremental to your rate base or earnings growth?

Speaker 3

I'm sorry, I missed the first part. You said for your what?

Speaker 9

EDP filing. Is that in your 5 year base plan?

Speaker 3

Yes. So the $4,000,000,000 that does a lot of capital to be clear. The $4,000,000,000 of capital attributable to the EDIP for everyone else out there, it's the electric distribution infrastructure investment plan. That does align with the spend rate we've been on for some time and so in our current 5 year capital plan of $13,200,000,000 about $5,500,000,000 of that is to electric distribution. And so we're on this sort of run rate of over $1,000,000,000 a year $1,000,000,000 per year of capital investment and we think that's appropriate to balance resilience, reliability as well as affordability.

Speaker 3

And so that's effectively what this EDIP proposes.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thanks so much.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Jonathan Arnold of Vertical Research. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 10

Good morning. Could you just, Reggie, you mentioned that on the roll forward of the capital plan, you you're probably about $1,000,000,000 associated with that. Could you just is that the voluntary green pricing being rolled in? Is it something else? Is that would the VGP be incremental?

Speaker 10

Maybe a little more color on color?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure, Jonathan. So to be clear, the $1,000,000,000 that will likely add to our next 5 year plan from 2022 to 2026 that does not include the VGP and the opportunity there that gigawatt of renewables nor does it include any of the potential capital investment opportunity associated with the IRP, what it will likely entail is, as you may recall, we had when we rolled out our 10 year plan, in say the back half of twenty nineteen, if memory serves me, we said we had about $3,000,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 upside capital investment opportunities, which were not part of that 10 year $25,000,000,000 plan and it largely had to do with electric gas infrastructure modernization. And so those will be the likely components that are added to the capital plan going forward and represent that call it roughly $1,000,000,000 of upside. I also think we're going to obviously roll forward our IRP related solar investments that are part of just the existing IRP that we're executing on. So you'll probably see some of that come into the plan as well as we add another year to our 5 year rolling CapEx plan.

Speaker 3

Is that helpful? Yes, very helpful, Reggie. So said another way, tax plan. Is that helpful?

Speaker 10

Yes, very helpful, Reggie. So said another way, that $3,000,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 is still there despite the BGP and the IRP?

Speaker 3

That's exactly right.

Speaker 10

Okay. And then can I just push up you mentioned that the BGP is already oversubscribed? Give us any flavor of sort of by how much and what's the pathway to potentially expanding that?

Speaker 2

Well, I'd offer this. 1, some of those are non disclosure agreements, but just some public announcements. On Earth Day of this year, I was with the Governor and we announced we're supporting the state facilities the move to renewable energy. So that's an example. I'll share with you that I was with a large customer just yesterday, a global company and they were looking at their large manufacturing facilities here in Michigan and looking at renewable type options.

Speaker 2

And so we're seeing a definite directional direction in terms of sustainability among our large industrial customers and this serves their needs. And so I'm not going to get into how much or from an oversubscription standpoint, but hopefully those examples provide some color on the context of opportunity there.

Speaker 3

And Jonathan, the only thing I would add is if the spirit of your question is whether there will be sufficient demand for that gigawatt of opportunity, we certainly feel very confident that there will be requisite demand to meet the gigawatt of opportunity the voluntary green program?

Speaker 10

The spirit of the question was a bit more if you're oversubscribed, how you don't you need to add to it in order to keep having those conversations?

Speaker 3

And as we see it, that's what the voluntary program would offer up about a gigawatt of additional capacity that we would own in the form of most likely solar rebuild.

Speaker 2

At this point, I mean to answer your question, Jonathan, at this point we don't need to add to it. There's some runway there and we'd look to construct these renewable assets in the 2024 to 2017 timeline. So it's oversubscribed from what we have right now and this will make up a good portion of that 1,000 megawatts, but there's more room to grow there.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question today comes from Michael Sullivan at Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Yes. Hey, good morning, everyone. Sorry to put you on the spot a little bit here, but just seeing some of these filings start to come in on the IRP. It looks like some of the environmental parties pushing back on the gas plant additions, I guess, is that surprising to you guys at all and ways to kind of come to some sort of agreement with them path forward? Any thoughts there?

Speaker 2

What I would offer this, when I say there's a win in there for everyone, it's clear that the environmental community loves fact that we're eliminating coal and would like natural gas not to be the substitute. But here's what we know that the only way that you can deliver the resiliency and the supply side of the business and make sure we don't have an interruption in service like was evident in Texas is to have natural gas as part of the solution. And so like I said, the staff and other interveners are certainly mindful of the resiliency and the importance of natural gas within the state. So there's a lot of give and take within these. And I would just offer this in 2018 and 2019, we had a lot of different points of view from an intervener perspective and we settled that case.

Speaker 2

And so differences are expected and we work through those just like we have done and we have a track record of doing that.

Speaker 11

Makes sense. And yes, just sticking with the IRP, the other key focus area, I think you touched on a little was the regulatory asset treatment, any parties in particular you would expect to maybe push back on that initially as we start to see testimony?

Speaker 2

Again, I would offer this and I've said this in the Q2 call and in other settings, this is an integrated resource plan and it's not a buffet. We've put together a great plan for Michigan. There's a win in it for everyone. And so we've been really clear about the need for recovery of and on the asset. And so going forward, I mean, that's part of the plan.

Speaker 2

And we've got testimony to support that. And as I stated earlier, when there's a win in there for everyone, there's a path to a good order and a good outcome. And so and where there's differences, we've shown we have the ability to work with everyone. And so Again, I just see a nice positive outcome here next year in 2022.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks a lot, Eric.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Julien Dumoulin Smith with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning team. Thanks for the time. Appreciate the opportunity to connect. Hi, good morning. So just in brief here, if we can talk about the supportive commentary you brought up a moment ago around the testimony here.

Speaker 7

Can you elaborate a little bit of specifically what your expectations are this afternoon and perhaps more specifically as you stated supportive, I imagine that you see perhaps latitude towards the settlement here. I just want to make sure I'm equating one towards the other, right? I mean, in terms of what this translates to next in terms of order?

Speaker 2

Well, I would offer this. I mean, I don't have a visibility into the testimony until it's published. And so I mean, obviously, we had a great discussion with a number of interveners. We know some of their points of view, where there might be good support and where there might be, small differences. And so again, I would reflect on it this way.

Speaker 2

Again, we've done this in the past many times and rate cases and the like and we've certainly done this with an IRP. Where there's differences, we find a way to work through those. And again, I think this afternoon we're going to see and I look forward to reading it. I think we're going to see supportive comments in general. And so when again, when there's a win in there the future.

Speaker 2

And we'll

Speaker 6

look at the future.

Speaker 2

And we'll look at the future.

Speaker 6

And we'll look at the future. And we'll look at

Speaker 2

the future. Now I don't know if it's going to go down the path of settlement or we'll take it to the full order. But again, when there's a win there, there's an opportunity for success and that's what I'm and what I'm confident about.

Speaker 7

Excellent. All right. And then just coming back to the rate case a little bit here. Given the discrepancy between the ALJ and the staff, does that inform your strategy heading into your next filing here in Q1 at all? I mean, obviously, there's some specific deltas there that you alluded to a moment ago, Reggie.

Speaker 7

But Can you elaborate a little bit more and maybe how you move forward, especially in the next cases, if there's anything yet?

Speaker 2

This is a constructive regulatory environment, Julien. You know that, I know that. And I really see this the PFD is a bookend, as I stated earlier. And so the conversations that we have with staff you're seeing in outside of cases is really how do we continue to ensure a safe and reliable natural gas system, how do we ensure and bring clean energy to Michigan, how do we ensure the reliability and resiliency of electric grid. And so those are in line with our goals and what we want to do as well.

Speaker 2

And we'll continue to be thoughtful about that process to make sure we balance customers' affordability with that. But I don't see any real change in plans as a result of specific ALJ, PFD at all.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Julien

Speaker 7

Yes. No, I appreciate your go for it.

Speaker 3

Yes. Julien, this is Reginald. The only thing I would add is, at the end of the day, it also speaks to just the benefit of the Michigan regulatory construct and the legislation in that in the event there is misalignment because ultimately at the end of the day the commission's order will dictate we're seeing is that we're seeing a lot of the changes in the market. But in the event there is misalignment, there's a forward looking test year. And so obviously, we have not incurred expenses on the capital or the O and M side.

Speaker 3

And so if we see misalignment in terms of where we'd like to go versus where the commission ends up, well we can toggle the capital and spend program accordingly. So again, it just speaks to the constructive nature, not just of decisions we've seen in the past, but also the rate construct and legislation itself.

Speaker 7

Excellent. Yes, I hear you. Bookend is the keyword here. Excellent, guys. Best of luck.

Speaker 7

We'll speak soon.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Julian. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Travis Miller at Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Travis. Hi.

Speaker 8

I have two questions going back to the storms. First one is, in your discussions that you referenced with regulators, the governor, either within or outside of the rate cases, has there been any talk in addition to some of the public comments about fines or penalties or other kinds of pushback on the storm response? That's my first question. And then the second question was the $0.16 Can you kind of break that down in terms of how you offset that to stay on track with the guidance for this year?

Speaker 2

Well, we'll 2 part this one between I'll let Reggie take the second question and I'll take the first piece. I would offer this. 1, again, conversation with the Governor's office and with Chair Scripps have been constructive. And again, I don't want to speak for the Chair, but I would offer this. The commission has been supportive of both our electric reliability spend as of recent the capital investments as well as increased forestry spend.

Speaker 2

We increased our forestry spend this year by a little over 60% and that was supported through a rate case process by the commission. And the commissioners understand that we're in the 1st year of that. The number one us for outages is tree trimming and we have a very aggressive program now in place which will benefit our customers. And so Our commissioners, I believe, understand that we're in the early years of these larger investments and operational maintenance expense, which will help our customers. And so I think there's full recognition of that.

Speaker 2

I have not heard any talk at all, 0 from the Governor's office or from the commission on any sort of penalties associated with the storms in August.

Speaker 6

Okay, great.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Travis, the only thing I would add is, with respect to the $0.16 of negative variance that I noted in my prepared remarks for Q3 of this year versus Q3 of last year, it was in large part offset as a result of just good weather we saw throughout the quarter, it was quite warm in the month of August and that offset a lot of the incremental service restoration costs that we incurred. And I also want to give credit where credit is due. I think the fact that we've already exceeded our expectations on cost savings across the organization was also quite helpful and offsetting some of the service restoration. And then lastly, again, as I mentioned, residential down 2% year to date roughly versus year to date last year, but it's ahead of plan too.

Speaker 3

And so you've got a little favorable mix as well versus plan. So all of those factors have largely offset the service restoration expense that we saw in Q3.

Speaker 8

Great. Yes, thanks. And then just a quick clarification on the $0.16 that was incremental to plan or did that include typical storm related expenses, I assume you include in

Speaker 3

Yes, the $0.16 was incremental to Q3 of 2020. So it's just that's a historical comp and that's that estimate is predicated on versus planned, a little higher than planned. But remember, in addition to having a decent amount of service restoration in our we also utilized some regulatory mechanisms, both what we call a voluntary refund mechanism that we put in place at the end of 2020 that provided additional budgetary support. And then we also shared a gain on the sale of have some assets related to our transmission assets in 2020 that offered additional, I'll say, regulatory liability support that provided additional budgetary insulation of the service restoration expense this year.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thanks so much. I appreciate the details.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from Ryan Levine with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Good morning. I have one on financing proposal or in your plan, it looks like you reduced your equity needs for this year by about $43,000,000 Can you walk us through what's the driver of that and much has really contributed to the purchase price adjustment for the recent asset sale? And if there's any other factors that are driving that number if there's some conservatism baked in there?

Speaker 3

Hey, Ryan, thanks for the question. So the EnerBank sale gross proceeds and the upside associated there with was the key driver that enabled us to reduce our equity financing needs for the year and the way it works, and it's a little nuance. I've been doing M and A for almost 20 years, but for Fincos or financial service companies, you have your traditional adjustments from sign to close on the working capital side, but financial service companies you also get credit if the book equity of the business increases from sign to close and we saw that with Hender Bank's outperformance over those handful of months. And so that led to about $60,000,000 of upside from the gross proceeds we announced at signing, which was $960,000,000 That's the amount that we ultimately saw at closing, which was over $1,000,000,000 call it just under 1,020,000,000 and so that's what gave us the upside and financial flexibility to reduce the equity needs. And so it's really a function of just that really strong performance at

Speaker 12

is the impact of the equity? So is there some conservative baked into your reduction in equity needs? Or is this effectively a few $1,000,000 The pre funding of future equity needs or future capital needs?

Speaker 3

Yes. So remember, we have about $57,000,000 of equity forwards that we've already put in place and we have been putting those in place even before we announced the sale of the bank. And so that gives you effectively look at the balance sheet and we'll look at the balance sheet and we'll look at the balance sheet and

Speaker 6

look at the balance sheet and look at

Speaker 12

the balance sheet and look at

Speaker 6

the balance sheet and look at the

Speaker 3

balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look

Speaker 6

at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet and look at the balance sheet

Speaker 12

and look at the balance sheet and look

Speaker 6

at the balance sheet. Okay. Great.

Speaker 3

So I guess that's helpful. Okay. And then, equity forwards we already have in place.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. So I guess that helps you for future years for capital needs.

Speaker 4

That's right.

Speaker 12

Appreciate it. That's all I had.

Speaker 3

Thanks.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. Would like to turn the conference back over to Gary Grochhaus for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Rocco, and I'd like to thank you all again for joining us today. We're looking forward to seeing you at EEI in the near future here and take care and stay safe.

Operator

Thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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