Copart Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Strong Q1 performance: Global unit sales rose 1.9% year-over-year (1.3% U.S., 5.5% international) and revenue grew 10.3% despite a $23.6 million currency headwind.
  • Margin compression: Q1 gross margin declined about 600 bps to 41.4% (44.1% U.S., 27.2% international), driven by roughly $25 million of Hurricane Ian costs (200–250 bps) and a mix shift to purchased vehicles amid cost inflation.
  • Historic Hurricane Ian response: As Copart’s largest storm event, Ian prompted retrieval of over 15,000 units in the first 10 days (70,000+ by quarter-end), incurring $25 million of extra costs partially offset by $9 million of revenue.
  • Inaugural ESG report: Copart emphasized its circular-economy role (saving 100× more CO₂e than it emits), global mobility access (vehicles sold in 160 countries), multi-decade real estate ownership, and rapid community disaster support.
  • Industry outlook: After record used car prices suppressed total-loss frequency, Copart saw a 20 bps sequential increase and expects frequency to revert to long-term norms as supply-chain bottlenecks ease and values moderate.
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Earnings Conference Call
Copart Q1 2023
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There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Copart Incorporated First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Call. Just a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. For opening remarks, I would like to turn the call over to Gavin Renfro, Vice President of Global Accounting of Copart Incorporated. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning. During today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP measures, including adjustments to income tax benefits related to stock based compensation. We've provided a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on our Investor Relations website and in our press release issued yesterday. We believe these non GAAP measures, together with the corresponding GAAP measures, are relevant in analyzing our results and assessing our business trends and performance. In addition, our comments today include forward looking Statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, including management's current views with respect to trends, opportunities and uncertainties in our markets.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements involve substantial risks and uncertainties. For more details on the risks associated with our business, we refer you to the section titled Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended July 31, 2022, and each of our subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Any forward looking statements are made as of today, and we have no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to our Co CEO, Jeff Liaw.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Gavin. Good morning, and welcome, everybody, to our Q1 call. We're pleased to report strong results for the Q1 of fiscal 2023 in the context of a complex Global economic backdrop and a significant weather event we'll describe in more detail today. Many of the unusual conditions that we've described on our previous calls Just today, though with some apparent stabilization, including new vehicle shipments, shortages, high used car prices and a broadly inflationary environment. Gavin and I will provide our customary data points throughout our call on these themes and others, but I wanted to start by highlighting our recently published Inaugural ESG report.

Speaker 2

If you haven't read it already, I'd encourage you to do so. In that report, we address the topic of sustainability across a number of different dimensions: Environmental Sustainability, Global Economic Empowerment, Enterprise Sustainability and Community Sustainability and Recovery. Events of the past few weeks have in particular underscored our commitment to the 4th of these pillars, but I'll take a moment to briefly summarize the first three. On the first of these subjects, environmental sustainability, Copart is a keystone enabler of the circular economy. Our business enables the reuse and recycling of vehicles, their components and materials, substantially reducing what would otherwise be the carbon footprint of the transportation sector.

Speaker 2

In fact, upon tabulating our Scope 1 and We estimate that we save 100 times as much in carbon dioxide equivalents as we emit in our business. On the second aspect of sustainability, global economic empowerment, our business is instrumental in improving access to mobility for residents of developing economies. In fiscal 2022 alone, we sold vehicles to members in 160 countries with approximately 1 quarter of our volume purchased by members In emerging economies as defined by the United Nations. While those of us on this phone call today likely take both physical mobility for granted, It is undoubtedly a critical enabler for access to education, healthcare, economic advancement and leisure worldwide, and we're proud to play an Important role in increasing its availability for people around the world. On the subject of enterprise sustainability, we make strategic decisions with a 20 year horizon.

Speaker 2

As a result, we own the vast majority of our real estate, ensuring its availability for our business and our customers for generations. We maintain a strong balance sheet to ensure that we have the flexibility to invest in our business and our customers' success regardless of economic conditions at the time. And finally, we are committed to our role in ensuring the sustainability and health of the communities we serve, most notably in our rapid response to major weather events. In late September of this year, Hurricane Ian made landfall in Florida. On a unit volume basis, Ian will be the single largest storm event in Copart's 40 year history.

Speaker 2

This Category 4 storm included heavy rainfall and winds in excess of 150 miles per hour Ian proved to be a storm of historic proportions. The robustness of our response Was the fruit of seeds we've been planting for years. As you've heard us articulate at length on prior calls, in anticipation of We have made proactive investments in land, technology, heavy equipment, trucks, drivers and personnel in the form of our dedicated CAT Response team. In this instance, of course, our investments paid off perhaps in economic efficiency, yes, But most importantly, in substantially enhancing the service we can provide our clients and their customers in their most acute times of need. We deployed more than 800 Copart employees from around the country to the affected areas, many while the hurricane still lingered over the state.

Speaker 2

In just the 1st 10 days of the event, we retrieved over 15,000 units, an unprecedented effort enabled both by our 3rd party sub hauler network Nearly 3.50 acres of Copart owned dedicated cat only storage capacity within the affected region, allowing us to quickly receive an inventory Nearly 70,000 units through the end of the quarter, in turn expediting the settlement process for policyholders who are eager for economic relief. To put our catastrophic storage capacity in context, the 1500 acres of land that we own For the purpose of catastrophic storage alone represents as much land as another major provider of insurance auction services owns in total. Investments in the strong and durable partnerships we enjoy with our insurance sellers. We tend to experience operating losses in major weather events. Hurricane Ian in the Q1 is no exception, with $25,000,000 in extra costs incurred by our business, offset by $9,000,000 of revenue in the period.

Speaker 2

Our elevated cat related expenses include premiums paid for towing and transport logistics, travel and lodging And increased overtime and labor expenses for our team. As such, in the quarter, the impact of Hurricane Ian was approximately 200 basis points to 2.50 basis points of gross and operating margin rate compression. Finally, in November, we completed a 2 for 1 stock split, our to our employees and retail investors. And with that, I'll turn it over to our VP of Global Accounting, Gavin Renfrew, to walk through some key operating and industry statistics and our Q4 financial results.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jeff, and good morning. I will start with the key statistics that we provide each quarter. Global unit sales increased 1.9% year on year for the quarter with the U. S. Increase of 1.3% And an international increase of 5.5%.

Speaker 1

Excluding catastrophic events from both periods last year and this year, For the Q1, U. S. Unit sales grew by 1.9%. Insurance business grew relative to 1 year and 2 year comparison due to share gains and the continued recovery in driving activity and accident frequency and severity. Notably, record high used vehicle prices have for the past several quarters Negatively impacted total loss frequency and have tempered overall insurance volume growth.

Speaker 1

For the first time in nearly 2 years, we've observed a Small sequential increase in total loss frequency of 20 basis points. While auction returns remain near all time highs and ASPs Therefore, insurance ACVs continue to reduce total loss volume relative to what it would otherwise be. Though up slightly sequentially, total loss frequency for the 3rd calendar quarter in 2022 was down year on year, falling by 220 basis points versus the same period in 2021. If vehicles were totaled at the same rate as in prior years, still believe this to be a relatively short term scenario. We appear to be observing some stabilization in total loss frequency based on the past 2 sequential quarters.

Speaker 1

Regardless, it is our view that the market will inevitably revert to its 40 year historical norm of steadily rising total loss frequency. Accident severity, repair complexity and duration, repair labor costs and rental car costs will contribute to said reversion, Registration, retention, etcetera. While supply chain bottlenecks persist today, we do anticipate that the eventual unwinding of these conditions will lead to a moderation Used vehicle values, ultimately trending back to lower levels in the future. We appear to be experiencing a moderation With Manheim's Used Vehicle Index now at its lowest point since August 2021, A decline in wholesale auction values may cause a reduction in our ASPs, but would almost certainly coincide with offsetting volume increases as well. We anticipate that lower ACVs and increased vehicle availability will inevitably reverse the observed short term total loss frequency and volume trend While overall U.

Speaker 1

S. Non insurance unit volume was relatively flat, up approximately 0.2% Excluding lower value cards from sources such as wholesalers and charities, we believe we are substantially outperforming other wholesale auction channels, both Next, on to our financial results. For the Q1, global revenue increased 80 $3,200,000 or 10.3 percent, including a $23,600,000 headwind due to currency. Global service revenue increased $59,000,000 U. S.

Speaker 1

Service revenue grew 10.3% for the quarter and international experienced a decrease of 2.4%. We saw continued strength in ASPs, which grew 5% year over year for the quarter with U. S. ASPs up 6.4%. The Manheim Index has declined from the January record levels, but remains historically elevated ending October at 200, a decrease of 10.6% year over year.

Speaker 1

Purchased vehicles continue to comprise an increasing percentage of our overall revenue mix, driven by both strong used car values and growth in volume, particularly in our cash for cars business in the U. S. And from international expansion. Purchased vehicle sales for the Q1 increased And international, up by 27% for the quarter. Purchased vehicle cost of sales grew $24,700,000 or 19.5 percent in the 1st quarter.

Speaker 1

As a result, purchased vehicle gross profits decreased slightly by $500,000 or 3.1% during the quarter. Global gross profit in the Q1 decreased by $15,500,000 or 4% and our gross margin percentage decreased by approximately 600 basis points to 41.4%. U. S. Margins decreased from 50.3% to 44.1% And international margins decreased from 33.1% to 27.2%.

Speaker 1

The year over year margin decline was primarily attributable to 2 factors, 200 basis points to 2 50 basis points of the quarter decline was due to elevated hurricane Ian costs being directly expensed in the quarter. The balance of our margin contraction is attributable to a mix shift to purchased vehicles, A modest reduction in purchased vehicle margins and cost inflation in both towing and labor offset partially by higher revenue per unit and volume growth. However, we believe we can continue to increase margin and returns on capital over time as we benefit from scale and find further operational G and A spend in the quarter increased $3,400,000 or 8.3 percent. While G and A can be volatile from period to period, over the longer term, we anticipate G and A to decline as a percentage of revenue as we grow our business and create additional leverage. Our GAAP operating income decreased by 5.6% from $330,100,000 to $311,500,000 for the Q1, including a $4,100,000 headwind due to currency.

Speaker 1

Excluding catastrophic events from both periods, operating income decreased by 3.3%. 1st quarter income tax expense was $67,300,000 at a 21.5 percent effective tax rate. Adjusting for the tax benefits associated with the exercise of employee stock options on a non GAAP basis, our effective tax rate would have been 21.7%. 1st quarter GAAP net income decreased 5.6 percent from $260,400,000 last year to $245,800,000 this year. Adjusted to remove the items detailed in our pro form a reconciliation included in our press release, Non GAAP net income decreased 4.7 percent from $257,400,000 last year to 245 point $2,000,000 in the Q1 of FY2023.

Speaker 1

Our global inventory at the end of October decreased 3.6% from last year and was flat when excluding low value units like wholesalers and charities. That is comprised of a year over year decrease of 6.3% for U. S. Inventory, Down 2.6% when excluding low value units and an increase of 17.1% to international inventory. For the first time in recent history, The number of total losses as a percentage of overall accidents has been declining.

Speaker 1

As a result, our inventory levels are lower than they were a year ago, Despite incremental inventory attributable to unsold vehicles picked up during the quarter from Hurricane Ian. Now to briefly update our liquidity and cash flow highlights. As of October 31, 2022, we had $2,800,000,000 of liquidity, Comprised of $1,500,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and an undrawn revolving credit facility with capacity of over $1,200,000,000 Operating cash flow for the quarter decreased by $1,000,000 year over year to $311,600,000 driven by lower earnings due to the additional expenses incurred in the quarter from Hurricane Ian. We invested $152,700,000 in expenditures in the quarter with over 80% of this amount attributable to capacity expansion as we are continuing to prioritize investments in physical infrastructure. Despite unusual near term forces that have suppressed unit sales relative to where they would have been, we continue to invest That concludes our prepared remarks, and we are happy to take some questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Thank

Speaker 3

you.

Operator

Thank you. And our first question will be coming from the line of Bob Labick with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your questions.

Speaker 4

Good morning and congratulations on strong operating performance.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Bob. Good morning.

Speaker 4

I wanted to start 2 quick questions related to the hurricane and thanks for all the color around it as well. We're just trying to get a sense of the sequential costs, maybe unit costs, excluding the hurricane impact in the quarter. How are you seeing changes in Towing, fuel, labor, etcetera, it's obviously been elevated and rising. Has it begun to Flat now? Is it declining?

Speaker 4

Is it still rising? Just trying to get a sense of the trends of the cost to process a unit Given the noise of the hurricane.

Speaker 2

Yes. So excluding the hurricane, Bob, I think in broad terms, certainly costs are elevated relative to a year ago. I think your question specifically on sequential trends, I think we're seeing stabilization in many cases. Of course, Certainly relative to conventional gasoline, but broadly speaking, we've seen stabilization in those underlying variables.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And then you gave us some stats here too. And we know you've spent, I don't know, estimate 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars On incremental land in the last even few years and a lot of that for cats. And given the greater severity of hurricane forecast and whatnot, How do you feel about your current capacity? Are there expectations to continue to add more land?

Speaker 4

Or where do you stand in that regard?

Speaker 2

Yes. So we are we expect to continue investing in land very substantially, both for day to day operations as Well, as for catastrophic readiness, we've seen that quote elevated investment profile Since the spring of 2016, and we continue to aggressively pursue land to support our core business as well as to address the spikes That of course occur in the context of catastrophic events.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. One more for me, I'll jump back in queue. Just switching over to Germany, you just give us an update on volumes? Quantitatively, are they growing? When did they become meaningful?

Speaker 4

And then also related to Germany, is that site integrated into the kind of U. S. Website, meaning can international Buyers that buy on the U. S. Site also seamlessly bid on cars in Germany and get alerts On cars they may like or is that potentially a future opportunity?

Speaker 2

Got it. Fair question. And I'll just take a step back and generalize more broadly in Western Europe period. So, Germany and Spain together and I'll leave Finland aside, but Finland has an insurance and total loss model that A lot more like the U. S, Canada and the U.

Speaker 2

K, so a gross settlement model. In Spain and in Germany, we continue to grow our volume with insurance sellers Very significantly on a year over year basis and certainly multiyear basis as well. So the progress is strong. We have traction with number of different insurance carriers. As we've noted on prior calls, the ultimate objective is to Secure nationwide agreements and to default to a gross settlement model across all policyholders In those markets, we continue to advance the ball in that regard.

Speaker 2

On your question Of member crossover and such, we do have crossover marketing efforts. It is perhaps someday an opportunity To consolidate the entire auction platform into 1, today, the German auctions and even frankly, yard by yard auctions in the U. S. Are distinct online events. The member bases have overlap, in some cases meaningful overlap.

Speaker 2

There are separate registration and participation channels.

Speaker 4

Okay, got it. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Bob.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Kennison with Baird.

Speaker 5

I wanted to follow-up on Hurricane Ian. I believe you mentioned 70,000 assignments through the end of October. Do you think that will be the total or could there be more on the way?

Speaker 2

More, but modestly soon.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then I know in the past, Sometimes you take losses overall on catastrophes when they're Particularly expensive like something like this. Is that the expectation this time around? Or could you see kind of revenue offset costs in the coming quarters such that this

Speaker 2

Fair question, Craig. I think in the aggregate, so if you were to take a truly bird's eye View of the catastrophic events, certainly taking into account the many millions, likely 100 of millions of capital we've deployed To build the catastrophic facilities to buy the equipment, the trucks, the transporters, the loaders and to train and deploy the people And the technology specifically for cats that we've also developed as well. In the aggregate, by the time you consider those costs, the catastrophic events Certainly not a profitable endeavor for us, but a necessary one. We don't root for catastrophic weather events, but we do believe that They draw the contrast still greater between us and others in the industry in terms of our capabilities in those times of stress. So in the aggregates, no, they are not profitable events for us.

Speaker 5

Thank you. And then we're trying to understand the impact of ASPs as they are Correlated with the Manheim Index and used car values. Is there any data you can share with us with respect to ASPs maybe in the month of November, Just to get a feel for what the year over year declines might look like as it relates to your model?

Speaker 2

You'll find we don't, as you know, comment intra Intra quarter about the current quarter, but I'd say that through the end of the Q1 ASPs were still up and somewhat meaningfully So ASPs were rising year over year, Manheim certainly down Over that same period. So we are correlated. There are some leads and lags and so you'll never see a perfect regression there between us and other such third party variables. But the market broadly speaking, I think we still observe vehicle shortages. If you wanted to go buy a new car today, you might not have your pick

Speaker 5

About Europe and your appetite for land there, we've got certainly a strong U. S. Dollar today and you have an urgent need for land over the course of decades, I suppose. Would you be inclined to be more aggressive in Europe to acquire that land now that you've got momentum in the business and you've got maybe an advantage on currency?

Speaker 2

Not more so, meaning we have an appetite for The currency is a near term it's a nudge in that direction, but it's not a meaningful influence. We're buying this land For 10%, 20%, and 50 year use, so variations of 5%, 10%, 20%, 30% even don't necessarily affect that calculus.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Greg.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, guys. This is Patrick Buckley on for Bret Jordan. Thanks for taking our questions. If you could talk a little bit more about recent volume trends, Are there any signs of volumes picking up as volumes drop or any signs of recent market share gains?

Speaker 2

On the volume question, and there are many different ways to slice this question into its component parts. With our insurance sellers, as Gavin noted in some meaningful detail, we are observing a literal once in a lifetime Suppression of total loss frequency, which we believe will eventually abate and reverse very meaningfully, that I think we would say has Stabilized driving activity has picked up depending on the country you're talking about has picked up a lot in Europe where the driving was more suppressed a year ago Than it has been in the U. S. So driving frequency times accident frequency times total loss frequency is plus or minus the volume equation plus the market share question So in the aggregate, I think we're seeing stabilization on total loss frequency, but still a year over year decline. And we're seeing an increase in driving frequency and accidents certainly are picking up as well.

Speaker 2

On the question of market share, we aren't in a position and generally don't comment on Individual accounts, if you look at the long term arc of history, I'd say we, generally speaking, have earned more market share over the years, both in insurance and outside of insurance. So, in our non insurance businesses, in which we serve automotive dealers, rental car fleets, Financial institutions, among others, we believe we continue to gain share relative to other providers in that space.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you. And then how do you guys see the competitive landscape changing with the RBA Deal with IAA, are there any synergies that you guys see?

Speaker 2

I'd say I'll generalize a half step here. We take our competition very seriously and we view our competitors set expansively. So in earning the right to sell vehicles on behalf of our clients, we compete against every other On behalf of our clients, we compete against every other path those vehicles can take. So whether it's hand selling, Retailing repairs and certainly consignment through other wholesale auction platforms. So we are constantly investing and innovating to deliver the highest possible returns so that we win more of those head to head comparison against the alternatives and to eclipse the rising standards we set for ourselves as well.

Speaker 2

But to address your question specifically about another provider of auction services in the insurance space, we don't think a change in corporate ownership, particularly It affects how each of us competes in the marketplace. So whether they're controlled by private equity or an activist hedge fund In practice, we manage our business with a long term investment horizon, which in turn creates the accumulating advantage of owning our own land, our technology platform, Building a global buyer base and our team.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's helpful.

Speaker 2

And as for the synergies, specifically, of course, those questions are better posed

Operator

The next question is from Jesus Gonzalez with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Hey, guys. Jesus on for Ryan Brinkman. I just had a question about how you guys are looking at margin compression given declining used vehicle values in commodities? And Is it fair that you can do by like adjusting retention rate, change that, affect that?

Speaker 2

Just what rate?

Speaker 3

Your retention rate or anything you guys can do to like offset margin compression?

Speaker 2

Do you mind just rephrasing that? I'm not sure I understand your question.

Speaker 3

Yes. So given that used values used vehicle values are normalizing lower along Is there anything you guys can do on your side by adjusting your retention rate to offset that or how are you guys looking at that going forward?

Speaker 2

Retention rate, got it. So As used vehicle prices soften, We will eventually see perhaps a softening in the selling prices of our cars, which is itself margin dilutive. We will at the same time See an increase in volume because a big part of the suppression of total loss volume today is those high used vehicle prices. So when we see that additional volume flow through the system, that is margin accretive. Beyond that, as for other We certainly have levers in the business available to us, which we explore on a recurring basis, Including deploying still more technology and automation and so forth in our business, among other things.

Speaker 2

I think you know we don't comment on our fee And how we manage that long term, but suffice it to say the business delivers enough value to our members and sellers To ultimately recover and generate a good return on capital.

Speaker 3

Got you. And are there any data points that you guys are looking at that we should keep track of In terms of this, that would help out?

Speaker 2

This being used car prices?

Speaker 3

Yes. So anything you guys are particularly keeping an eye on that we should also look at besides Manheim, obviously?

Speaker 2

Probably nothing that will nothing insightful. We track the Manheim Used Vehicle Index, NADA. We track anecdotally what's happening in The auction space, broadly auto retailers and the like, so nothing that's not broadly available in the product.

Speaker 3

Got you. Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Ali Faihuri with Guggenheim Partners. Please

Speaker 7

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Was there anything different in your cat response that allows you to These cars quicker than historically. I think with the storm in mid to late September, I guess I was surprised to see that you were already selling through this inventory in October.

Speaker 7

I think historically it's taken at least 60 days especially for cat events.

Speaker 2

I think it's an evolution of our capabilities, but we've invested over the years. But certainly, we have In recognition of rising frequency and severity of these storms, we have invested in that technology. We haven't gotten into the details of what that means, but in the technology And processing titles in receiving cars and helping the insurance companies by absorbing much of the physical work that they used to do. There are many different individual levers pulled to collectively expedite the process on behalf of our sellers.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. And then just a follow-up here on total loss rates. They were up modestly sequentially. Do you think we've hit the trough there on total loss rates and We should now see them start to grind higher from here?

Speaker 2

A difficult forecast, Ali, because that underlying that then is your belief about used vehicle prices In particular, the other forces, I think we've got a fair bit of conviction in, which is to say that the eventual rising tide is Repair costs will rise and will continue to rise because of vehicle complexity. Every car that rolls off the line today is Meaningfully more complex than 1 5 years ago and probably 1 a year ago. I saw anecdotally a recent description of a Ford Focus having 300 micro Processors in it and a Ford electric vehicle having 3,000 of them, for example. And I think that will play itself out Over the years decades to come. So those forces, I think, are well known.

Speaker 2

Repair costs will rise. International demand for Copart vehicles will rise. The near term variable is what happens to used car prices and that forecast is difficult to make in isolation. It does appear to be softening somewhat. But as for how that will play out over the next 6 to 12 months, that's harder for us to say.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks, Chad.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Bobby.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'll hand the conference back to Jeff Liaw for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks everyone and we'll talk to you next quarter. Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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