Edwards Lifesciences Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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January 31, 2023

There are 17 speakers on the call.

Operator

And welcome to the Edwards Life Sciences 4th Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Mark Wilterning, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer.

Operator

Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank Thank you very much, Diego, and good afternoon and thank you all for joining us today. With me on today's call are Mike Musalum, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Scott Ullam, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us for the Q and A portion of the call are Bernard Zavigian, President of Edwards Life Sciences time, Larry Wood, our Global Leader of TAVR and Surgical Structural Heart Devine Chopra, our Global Leader of TMTT and Katie Ziman, call, our global leader of critical care. Just after the close of regular trading, Edwards Lifesciences released Q4 2022 financial results. During today's call, management will discuss those results included in the press release and the accompanying financial statements and then use the remaining time for Q and A.

Speaker 1

Please note that management will be making forward looking statements that are based on estimates, assumptions and projections. These statements include, time, we are pleased to announce that we are this time, we will discuss the financial results of the company's financial results. We will discuss the financial results of the company's financial results. Edwards does not undertake any obligation to update them after today. Additionally, the statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ call, our 2021 Annual Report on Form 10 ks and Edwards' other SEC filings, all of which are available on the company's website at edwards.com.

Speaker 1

Finally, a quick reminder that when using the terms constant currency, underlying and adjusted, management is referring to non GAAP time, we are referring to GAAP results. Reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP numbers mentioned during the call Are included in today's press release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike for his comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mark. During 2022, our company stayed focused on the long term, making meaningful progress on strategic milestones with the potential of transforming patient While the challenging environment negatively impacted sales, we still grew 8%. Looking forward, we remain optimistic The healthcare environment will gradually improve and we expect 9% to 12% sales growth in 2023. We didn't pull back on investing in innovation because of the pandemic and we didn't pull back because sales fell a little short. We continue to aggressively invest during this challenging period, which positions the company for sustained leadership in a new era Looking back at 2022, in TAVR, we made important strides in executing our long term strategy.

Speaker 2

Call, we received approval and launched the innovative SAPIEN 3 Ultra Resilient Valve. In TMTT, Each of our platforms demonstrated promising clinical performance and we received approval for PASCAL Precision in the U. S. And Europe. In surgical structural heart, we extended our leadership position through the launch of MITREZ in the U.

Speaker 2

S. And in critical care, we continue to drive adoption of our transformative smart recovery technologies. Although our initial sales expectations for 2022 anticipated a better environment, We delivered balanced contributions across each of our product groups and regions. We achieved 12% growth in adjusted earnings per share, While maintaining R and D at more than 17% of sales, which reflects our commitment to driving durable organic sales growth. Consistent with our cash deployment strategy, we opportunistically repurchased stock at an accelerated level in 2022.

Speaker 2

We continue to invest in our production capacity in anticipation of future growth and we made a series of external investments Turning to our 4th quarter financial results, consistent with our guidance, portfolio of innovative therapies drove this growth despite the healthcare disruptions in a number of our key geographies. In TAVR, full year 2022 global TAVR sales of $3,500,000,000 Increased 7% on a constant currency basis, building on nearly 20% growth in the year ago period. Sales were below our original guidance of $3,700,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 due to foreign exchange headwinds and COVID induced Healthcare challenges in key countries. In 2022, we announced the approval of SAPIEN 3 Ultra Resilia in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Separately, we continued to advance enrollment in our progress pivotal trial for moderate AS patients and gained significant learnings from our alliance pivotal trial to study the next generation TAVR technology, SAPIEN X4. These In the Q4, our global TAVR procedures were comparable with Edwards growth. Our global I should say global TAVR At this time, we are pleased to report that the results were comparable with Edwards growth.

Speaker 3

Our global

Speaker 2

TAVR sales of $868,000,000 increased 5% year over year on a constant currency basis, Consistent with our expectations, sales were up slightly over Q3 in dollars and on a constant currency basis And local selling prices were stable. In the U. S, TAVR's Edwards' 4th quarter TAVR procedures grew In the mid single digit range, as expected, our 4th quarter U. S. TAVR procedure volumes time, we're impacted by the U.

Speaker 2

S. Hospital staffing constraints and the holiday season slowdown. We estimate that our share of procedures Growth in the U. S. Was higher in larger volume centers and in states with fewer COVID restrictions As measured by the Daxford's Containment and Health Index, we are encouraged by recent hiring trends, which suggests that hospital employment As we mentioned, we began the introduction of SAPIEN 3 Ultra Resilia in the U.

Speaker 2

S. The Resilient Tissue's anti calcification technology addresses one of the primary causes of re intervention following heart valve replacement And is demonstrating a strong track record of performance in Edwards Surgical Valves. As of now, this newest valve has been introduced in approximately 10% of U. S. TAVR centers and physician feedback has been encouraging.

Speaker 2

Outside of the U. S, in the 4th quarter, Edwards TAVR procedures also grew in the mid single digit and we estimate total procedure growth was comparable. In Q4, geographies outside of Europe and Japan grew even faster in the quarter. Long term, we see excellent opportunities for growth as we believe international adoption of TAVR remains quite low. In Europe, 4th quarter procedures grew in line with the global rate.

Speaker 2

Market growth continued to be impacted by a bump in the COVID cases And staffing shortages, which reduced hospital capacity, particularly in larger countries such as Germany. And even though there are a broad range of competitors, our leadership position and local selling prices remain stable throughout the year. Importantly, a cost effectiveness study published earlier this month demonstrated that TAVR with SAPIEN 3 time, it was economically beneficial when compared to surgical aortic valve replacement in treating German patients with low surgical risk. The data suggests that TAVR enhances quality of life and offers a cost effective option over the long term. These findings are consistent with the cost effective outcomes for the use of SAPIEN three in France, Italy and Spain.

Speaker 2

In Japan, 4th quarter procedure growth was much slower than expected due to an extended COVID wave and continued restrictions, Which limited hospital staffing and capacity. We expect these factors to diminish substantially over the course of 2023 And look forward to launching SAPIEN 3 Ultra Resilia in Japan later this year. We remain focused on expanding the availability of TAVR therapy, Driven by the fact that AS remains a significantly undertreated disease amongst this large elderly population. In summary, our outlook assumes COVID related challenges improve during 2023 as hospital resource constraints decrease. We remain positive in our outlook for 2023 underlying TAVR sales growth of 9% to 12%, Consistent with the range we shared at our December Investor Conference, we remain confident in this large global opportunity That will double to $10,000,000,000 by 2028, which implies a compounded annual growth rate in the low double digit range.

Speaker 2

Turning to TMTT. Since launch, we have proudly treated more than 10,000 patients with the PASCAL repair system. We achieved significant milestones in 2022 and made meaningful progress toward achieving our vision to transform care for patients Following the Class IId presentation at TCT and FDA approval in Q3, time, we initiated the introduction of the PASCAL Precision System in the U. S. Initial feedback from Clinicians, it has been positive and we're pleased with the patient outcomes to date.

Speaker 2

Class IId full cohort of conference call, 300 patients with 1 year follow-up will be presented in the second half of twenty twenty three. In Europe, the PASCAL Precision launch is ongoing with a focus on bringing this latest advancement to our existing centers as well as expanding into new centers. Also, aligned with our commitment to generate high quality scientific evidence, We continue to advance enrollment in our Class IIF pivotal trial for patients with functional mitral regurgitation. In mitral replacement, we're making good progress on the enrollment of the encircled pivotal trial for SAPIEN M3 and expect to complete enrollment of the main cohort around the end of 2023. This sub French transfemoral valve Leverages the SAPIEN 3 platform with a recapturable, repositionable dock.

Speaker 2

Separately, We've completed enrollment in the mySEND early feasibility study with the EOS valve and are incorporating the learnings from this early experience into our next iteration. We believe the EOS platform has the potential to be an excellent option for mitral patients who have a poor prognosis and limited treatment options. Shifting to tricuspid and our strategy of advancing the body of clinical evidence, we are currently enrolling 2 pivotal trial studying both tricuspid replacement and repair, TRISEN II and the Class II TR. We prioritized enrollment in our TRISEN-two study, that study trial that's studying EVOQ as it addresses completing the enrollment in the first half of twenty twenty three, and we expect Evoque CE Mark by the end of this year and U. S.

Speaker 2

Approval around the end of 'twenty four. We're very pleased with the recent tricuspid this time, we are pleased with the data presented at PCR London Valve's meeting, which we reported favorable results from both our TRISEN study of EVOQ And we're looking forward to bringing this therapy to patients in the U. S. Following the Class II TR trial. Time, turning to the sales performance of TMTT.

Speaker 2

4th quarter sales of $32,000,000 were consistent with our latest guidance And driven by the continued adoption of PASCAL in Europe, supported by the early initiation of PASCAL Precision in the U. S. Time, full year global sales were $116,000,000 up nearly 50% on a constant currency basis versus the prior year. In 2023, we expect TMTT sales of $160,000,000 to $200,000,000 We look forward to advancing our vision to transform the lives of patients with mitral and tricuspid valve disease through the milestones outlined at our recent investor conference, we remain committed to bringing this differentiated portfolio of therapies to patients with these life threatening diseases And believe our strategy positions us well for leadership. In Surgical Structural Heart, Full year global sales were $893,000,000 up 6% on a constant currency basis versus the prior year.

Speaker 2

Q4 2022 global sales of $224,000,000 quarter, we increased 8% on a constant currency basis over the prior year. We are encouraged to see strong global growth Driven by the increased penetration of our premium Resilia products despite COVID challenges in certain regions. Although hospital staffing shortages continued to be a concern, we believe that heart valve surgery was prioritized. Time, we have seen strong momentum of the Resilia portfolio globally. We believe that surgeons value the features and benefits of this advanced tissue technology for both Aortic and mitral surgical valve replacement procedures, we saw adoption of the MITREZ Resilia valve in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Increase in the 4th quarter. And built upon previous generations of proven mitral valve technology, MITREZ offers greater ease of use and is designed to facilitate potential future We are growing the large body of Brasilia evidence with our new momentous clinical study To demonstrate the durability of this tissue in the mitral position, enrollment in this study was initiated earlier this month. In summary, we remain confident that our full year 2023 underlying sales growth will be in the single digits for surgical structural heart, driven by the adoption of our most advanced technologies and growth of overall heart valve surgeries. Turning to Critical Care.

Speaker 2

Full year global sales of $855,000,000 Increased 7% on a constant currency basis versus the prior year. 4th quarter critical care sales of $225,000,000 quarter, increased 13% on a constant currency basis over the prior year. Growth was driven by contributions from all product lines and regions led by HemoSphere and Smart Recovery. In our Smart Recovery portfolio, adoption of FlowTrack and ClearSight sensors time, we also increased in Q4 due to elevated hospitalizations in the U. S.

Speaker 2

As discussed at our recent investor conference, The integration of a full range of technologies creates a unique offering of enhanced recovery tools and predictive analytics to further strengthen time, we are encouraged by the strong momentum in critical care We continue to expect mid single digit underlying sales growth in 2023. We remain enthusiastic about our pipeline of critical care innovations Highlighted by smart recovery technologies designed to help clinicians make better decisions and get patients home to their families faster. And now, I will turn the call over to Scott.

Speaker 4

Thanks a lot, Mike. Today, I will provide a wrap up of 2022, including detailed results for the Q4 as well as provide guidance for the Q1 and full year of 2023. So as Mike mentioned, our sales of $1,300,000,000 in the 4th quarter, it grew 7% on a constant currency basis, despite the healthcare disruptions in a number of our key geographies. Our gross profit margin was healthy, Even excluding the temporarily inflated rate due to FX. Combined with sales growth and disciplined spending, This resulted in adjusted earnings per share growth of 25 percent to $0.64 GAAP earnings per share was $0.65 Obviously, we were disappointed with our stock performance last year.

Speaker 4

The only upside to the poor stock price performance was that it provided an opportunistic time, to repurchase shares more aggressively. During the Q4, we repurchased $750,000,000 of stock through an accelerated share repurchase program, And in total, we repurchased $1,700,000,000 of stock last year. Average shares outstanding during the 4th quarter fell to 616 We have approximately $900,000,000 remaining under our current share repurchase authorization. For the full year 2022, Sales increased 8% over the prior year on a constant currency basis to $5,400,000,000 Adjusted earnings per share grew 12% And we generated nearly $1,000,000,000 of free cash flow. We expect our sales growth rate to expand in 2023 With the gradual improvement in hospital staffing, although still early in the year, we saw encouraging signals during Q4 And a good start so far in Q1, which reinforces our confidence about the 9% to 12% full year range.

Speaker 4

We are maintaining all of our previous sales guidance ranges for 2023. Absent big moves in FX, time, we expect total company sales of $5,600,000,000 to $6,000,000,000 TAVR sales of $3,600,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 TMTT sales of $160,000,000 to $200,000,000 Surgical Structural Heart sales of $870,000,000 to $970,000,000 and time, we are projecting sales time, we expect to be approximately $1,370,000,000 to $1,450,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share of $0.58 to $0.64 Now I'll cover additional details of our results. Our adjusted gross profit margin in the 4th quarter was 81% compared to 76.8% in the same period last year. This improvement was driven by the expected positive impact from our FX program, which includes hedge contract gains and natural hedges that offset the negative sales impact 23, adjusted gross profit margin to be between 76% 78%. At current exchange rates, the reduction in this year's forecast gross profit margin versus 2022 reflects 250 to 300 basis points of reduced benefit from FX Plus some incremental inflation.

Speaker 4

SG and A expenses in the 4th quarter decreased 3% over the prior year to $411,000,000 time, we are pleased to report that the company had a strong quarter with a strong quarter of $1,000,000 or 30.5 percent of sales, primarily due to the weakening of the euro and the yen against the dollar and partially offset by continued investments in the ongoing build out of the U. S. TMTT commercial team and our high touch model for TAVR, We continue to expect full year 2023 SG and A expenses as a percent of sales to be between 29% 30%. Research and development expenses in the quarter were consistent with the prior year at $232,000,000 or 17.2 percent of sales. We continue to expect R and D expenses in 2023 to be between 17% 18% of sales as we invest in developing new technologies And generating evidence to support TAVR and TMTT growth.

Speaker 4

Turning to taxes, our reported tax rate this quarter was 13.3% time, we are 14% excluding the impact of special items. We continue to expect our 2023 tax rate excluding special items to be 13% to 17%. Foreign exchange rates decreased 4th quarter reported sales growth by 6 percentage points quarter, we expect approximately flat year over year impact from foreign exchange this time, we expect to be in the

Speaker 3

range of $1,000,000 to full year 2023 sales.

Speaker 4

Foreign exchange rates positively impacted our 4th quarter gross margin by 230 basis points compared to the prior year. Relative to our October guidance, FX rates had a minimal impact on 4th quarter earnings Finally, before turning the call back over to Mike, I'll finish with an update on our balance sheet and cash flow. We continue to maintain a strong and flexible balance sheet with approximately $1,200,000,000 in cash, cash time, we expect to be in the range of $1,000,000 and short term investments as of the end of the year. Free cash flow for the Q4 was $214,000,000 defined as cash flow from operating activities of $283,000,000 less capital spending of $69,000,000 In time, in 2023, we expect free cash flow to grow to $1,000,000,000 to $1,400,000,000 And with that, I'll pass the call back over to Mike.

Speaker 2

Conference call, we're confident that our patient focused innovation strategy can transform care and bring value to patients and healthcare With that, I'll turn the call back over to Mark.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Scott. If you have additional questions, please reenter the queue and management will answer as many participants as possible during the remainder of the call. Diego?

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, we will conduct our question and answer session. Our first question comes from Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks for taking the question. And before I ask, Mike, we couldn't hear your closing remarks before. So I don't know if you're a little far away from a microphone or not. Okay.

Speaker 5

There we are. Okay.

Speaker 2

If you like, I'd be happy to give you the conclusion. What do you have for a second? Thanks, Robbie. And I will yes, she'll be I just said in conclusion, we're proud of the significant progress we made in advancing 2022 and the new transformational therapies

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks, Mike. Maybe to start, you talked about improving trends In TAVR and what you're seeing so far in Q1, maybe you could spend a little more time and give us detail exactly what some of those improvements were throughout the quarter, how the quarter trended and what gives you confidence in the 2020 reiterate, have a guide based on what you've seen so far?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I'm not going to get really deep into the quarter. As Scott mentioned, we had some really positive time during the quarter where we saw some weeks were really strong. We had the normal seasonality that we see In a quarter where things get soft around the holidays, but if I just elevate, I think what's on the mind Of some of our investors that we had a few quarters of single digit growth, but that certainly does not dampen our enthusiasm for our strategy. Just COVID just wasn't kind to structural heart patients and we know that there are many consequences of COVID affected time, we are now at global growth companies, including Edwards.

Speaker 2

So if we just replay, 2020, COVID drove Pretty much flat sales growth for us. In 2021, it was a big growth year, Edwards grew 18%. And in 'twenty two, although we experienced the lingering impact of COVID, tough comparisons and all that, we still grew 8 And more importantly, in 'twenty three, we remain confident that sales are going to grow 9% to 12%. So we just think the environment is going to improve. We feel strongly that COVID's impact is transient and that treating these structural heart patients is going to again become a priority.

Speaker 5

Great. And maybe as a follow-up, you're a couple of months into the PASCAL launch in the U. S. I'd love to get the initial feedback of What you're hearing from implanters, from hospitals and how the Q1 has gone for you so far? Thanks.

Speaker 6

Yes, sure. Robbie, this is Devine. I'll take that question. So, so far at a high level, feedback from physicians on the PASCAL launch, Precision launch has been really positive, right? I think people love the ease of use, the navigation improvements with this new system.

Speaker 6

And we know that we received early approval in the U. S. And Europe, so we're ramping inventory to kind of improve these launches. I think really in the U. S, our mantra is all about patient outcomes.

Speaker 6

And so we are really focused on our high touch model. We are really focused on getting great clinical outcomes, gradual introduction, We have a really strong training program. So, so far today, we've been really impressed with that. And finally, I'll say, I think we've had Some great Class II d data that came out obviously at TCT and we are convinced that they will have a positive impact in the tier market overall And we think that more and more physicians will be interested in using the PASCAL Precision system.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.

Speaker 7

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Yes, I wanted to start with a high level question. Obviously, there's a lot of concerns on the U. S.

Speaker 7

Tower market, Mike, as you mentioned earlier among investors, I wanted to ask about actually next year, 'twenty four, because it looks like you have 3 major trials being presented, potentially early TAVR for asymptomatic, the UNLOW trial for moderate AS, TRICEND 2 with Evoque time, how do you guys rank these opportunities? And do you expect these three trials to accelerate your growth? And I have one follow-up.

Speaker 8

So Larry, this is Larry. Related to early TAVR, just as a reminder, that trial has a 2 year endpoint. So we just completed the 1 year follow-up at the end of last year. So we have these patients have another year to go. So that data wouldn't be available really till 2024.

Speaker 8

UNLOAD is an IIS study, so that's really kind of out of our hands. We provide funding for that, but that's really up to the investigators in terms of when they present that data. And maybe I'll turn it over To Draveen, for Tricend or Bernard?

Speaker 6

Yes. I'll just make the comment on Tricend. So for the Tricend II study, we expect to obviously Release the information in the second half of the year. So we're Excited about the data we think to help it. But as you pull up here, I think this all helps us make us feel good about this year and then driving into 2024.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I'll just add, this is Mike again, Larry. Yes, we're feeling positive about 2024. It's a long way off, so too soon to give guidance at this point. But when we look at the road ahead, we really think as the system learns to deal with COVID and it It fades back into the rearview mirror that structural heart patients are going to get prioritized again and we think that they're going to be anxious to treat these patients.

Speaker 2

We love our lineup of technologies, our lineup of clinical trials that are pointed at indication expansion. And so we see That's why we feel confident in that 20 28 outlook.

Speaker 8

Yes. And just to add on to that, we did see, as As Mike mentioned, we saw some weeks in Q4 that were really strong. And I think it's just evidence that staffing is gradually improving, Maybe not as fast as we want and we certainly saw some impact, especially around the holiday period. But we still have the Sapien the launch, we have other things that we're really excited about and we feel very good about next year or this year, sorry.

Speaker 7

That's helpful. Just a quick follow-up. I didn't hear anything. Sorry if I missed it on the ALLIANCE trial and safety and X4. Is there an update there?

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 8

Yes. No, we don't have any update there. I think what we said at the investor conference is we expect to be back in clinic this year and we still anticipate that, but we don't have anything new to

Speaker 5

Thanks, Larry.

Operator

And our next question comes from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I think for the first question, Mike, On these TAVR trends, I think U. S. Was up mid singles, overall TAVR up mid singles implies National was mid single, so maybe talk about was there any China impact or what happened in international?

Speaker 9

And I think on the last call, you noted the centers in the U. S. Were up double digits, half of them were flattish. Was that a trend that you saw this quarter as well? Or how are you thinking about TAVR progression here?

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll talk a little bit about OUS and then Larry can get a little deeper in the U. S. So outside the U. S, procedures grew in the mid single digits.

Speaker 2

And as we mentioned, site of Europe and Japan, it grew even faster. In Q4, we experienced some challenges that resulted in Sort of, if you will, the U. S. And Europe in the mid single digit as expected, Japan was worse than we thought And the rest of the world was better than we thought. So that's sort of the way that things kind of netted out.

Speaker 2

We expect contributions time, we expect to see from all the regions to be better in 'twenty three as we are projecting that 9% to 12% growth rate. Yes. Your other question was trying to differentiate what was different in the U. S?

Speaker 9

Sorry, half the centers were up Double digits, I think, last quarter, was there a trend that you saw this quarter as well?

Speaker 8

Yes, we saw significant variation on a site to site basis. Currently some centers and I think it mainly reflects kind of localized COVID restrictions. Some centers certainly did better than other centers and gradually we see that Improving over time, but larger centers probably did a little bit better than the smaller centers. You had a question on China as well. China was certainly impacted, but for our TAVR business, it's such a small base.

Speaker 8

It's It's not a huge driver one way or the other.

Speaker 9

That's helpful, Larry. And Scott, maybe a quick one for you. I think Q1 guidance here At the midpoint almost I think it's hitting at 10% organic close to high singles, low doubles organic. What's driving this sequential from the high singles organic we saw in Q4, has the visibility improved or just talk about assumptions around the Q1?

Speaker 4

Well, it ties to what we've been talking about so far on the call. Our guidance for Q1 is $13.70 to $14.50 so call the $1,410,000,000 in sales at the midpoint of the range, which is, if you just So your question is what happened between Q4 and Q1 and it ties back to we're just seeing generally favorable environment, hospital Staffing levels and healthcare disruptions gradually getting a little bit better, and it's really very similar to what we talked about at our investor conference and reinforces our confidence about the 9% to 12% growth rate that we can achieve for the full year in 2023.

Speaker 9

That's extremely helpful, Scott. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Please state your question. Matt Taylor, your line is open. We'll move on to the next question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Miksic with Barclays. Please state your question.

Speaker 3

Hi, can you hear me okay?

Speaker 8

Yes. Yes.

Speaker 10

We can hear you. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. So I'll keep it as one question. Just on some of the comments that you talked about, Scott, I think in your comments around Starting to see some encouraging trends early this year, gradual improvements maybe towards the end of Q4.

Speaker 10

Given the sort of many things that have been talked about as potentially having this sort of slowing impact on U. S. TAVR trends around staffing, availability of nurses and the confusion around some centers being Double digits and some being slower. Can you maybe talk about a few things that you are seeing That sort of bring you to sort of point out this encouraging trend, which of these things are getting better, what gives you that encouragement?

Speaker 4

Well, it's a good question. It's tough to isolate all the elements that are going into just the 1st couple of weeks of the year. But generally speaking, Overall, it seems like the trends are favorable and this is what we expected to happen in 2023 with hospital staffing constraints Abating with overall disruptions in the healthcare system getting a little bit better in the U. S. And outside of the U.

Speaker 4

S. And just the multiple different signals that we see and anecdotes that we hear give us confidence that we're on the right track. And again, Looking to the 9% to 12% growth rate guidance for 2023, January, it's pretty early to say, but obviously we wouldn't The signals that we've seen in January are reflected in the guidance that we've given in that $13.70 to $14.50 sales range for the Q1.

Speaker 10

Okay. I'll leave it at that. But thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joanne Wuensch with Citibank. Please state your

Speaker 11

Good evening and thank you for taking the questions. I have two quick ones. Looks like you have 81 ASCEND gross margins in the 4th quarter, your guide for 2023 is the reversal of your FX hedges. Can you walk us through, sort of, should we just straight line it down over the next couple of quarters, how we should think about that? And then the second question, it sounds like things are getting better.

Speaker 11

Are you seeing wait lists cropping up in different places? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Why don't I take the first piece and then, we'll let somebody else jump in on the wait list question. Just in terms of gross margin, it's pretty simple. I mean, there are a bunch of little moving pieces. We always get a little bit of benefit from mix. We get a little bit benefit from all of the activities we have to improve efficiency in global supply chain.

Speaker 4

But really the difference between the gross margin in the Q4 of 2022 and the full year 2022 Versus the guidance we've given for 2023 is all FX and FX hits us with both hedge contracts that we have as well as inventory valuations outside of the U. S, that's really the source of the decline from 2022 to 2023 gross margins.

Speaker 2

Yes. On the backlog question, Joanne, as we've mentioned before, we don't have great analytics on backlogs. So a lot of it we just hear anecdotally from customers, but what we do here say, yes, indeed there is backlog that's spotty And across the U. S. And other countries for that matter.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Pasquale with Nephron. Please state your question.

Speaker 12

Thanks guys. Mike, I wanted to go back to the COVID related mortality in your patient population could have depleted your pool and that that might take longer to normalize time, something that's a little bit simpler like hospital staffing. Do you see that as a significant factor or do you still view

Speaker 7

it as a bottom

Speaker 12

of the funnel issue time, with capacity.

Speaker 2

Yes. Just at the highest level, sadly for these patients, It's true. There has to be some mortality that goes on. They just don't wait well. And we know that that's a very serious Having said that, this isn't a small pool.

Speaker 2

It's a really, really big pool. And so Even the sad mortality that comes from this is not close to really putting a dent in The number of patients that could legitimately use help through having their severe AS treated.

Speaker 12

Okay, that's helpful. And then just one on mitral, any line of sight into Class IIF and II TR completing enrollment, those studies have been going on for a while and I don't think you guys have provided a timeline there.

Speaker 6

Yes. So This is Devine. So I'll follow-up a little bit on Class II TR first and I'll ask about 2 separately. So first, on Class II TRs, if you remember, We think that in our prioritization, while we think care for tricuspid is really important, we actually believe that EVOQ Has the potential to be more important to tricuspid patients, but we know that this is a large and diverse population of people, so we got to have a portfolio of options. So we were committed to running 2 different pivotal studies, obviously the TRICON 2 for EVOQ as well as the Class 2 TR for PASCAL.

Speaker 6

And many of these sites are actually many of our clinical sites, especially in the U. S. Actually have both trials at that site. So what we did is we actually asked sites to prioritize TRICIN II enrollment actually drive that fastest. And so that's on track to kind of complete enrollment here in the first half of twenty twenty three as we've kind of talked about before.

Speaker 6

So now as that finishes up, we're asking kind of sites to kind of drive enrollment in Class II TR. So we hope you will then see enrollment in that trial then pick up. And moving on to Class IIF, right, our functional kind of trial, a randomized trial. We haven't yet kind of shared expectation for kind of approval or commercialization yet on that. That trial is enrolling right now.

Speaker 6

It's a really important trial for us. And again, a lot of the sites that were actually in Class IID, so again, the other, Mitra, were also sites that were also in Class IIF. And as you imagine, we initially said, hey guys, let's really drive enrollment in Class 2D and wish the sites did really well, they helped drive our approval. And now we've again asked them to kind of switch their prioritization to Class 2F. So we see kind of the enrollment in that trial, which is again, it's a large trial, a 4 50 person trial Kind of enrolling right now.

Speaker 6

So that's kind of an update on those two troughs.

Speaker 12

That's helpful. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Cecilia Furlong with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.

Speaker 13

Great. Good afternoon and thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask just follow-up question on TAVR in Japan, how you're thinking about bounce back cadence in 'twenty three, following a bit more pressure, it sounded like in 4Q? And then just as you think about the impact from low risk patients, additional patients coming into the funnel there, As well as Resilient rollout, if you could talk just about your strategy and pricing strategy there too?

Speaker 2

Maybe I'll start out with Japan and then turn it over to Larry for the others that he can sort of complete the thought. Japan had been a real lift to our growth rate, for the past few years and even earlier this year, but when that wave of COVID came through in Q3, It really was a setback for that healthcare system. And the way that the Japanese system deals with it is to implement a lot of restrictions. And so that really had some pretty big impact in Q3 and that continued into Q4. It was even more dramatic in Q4 than we expected.

Speaker 2

The situation is much better in Japan and so we see a very solid substantial improvement during the course of 2023. So we expect Japan to be a real contributor to growth going forward. Larry?

Operator

We can't hear Larry. His mic is not on.

Speaker 8

So sorry, can you hear me okay now?

Operator

Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 8

Okay. So the There's a lot of things to be excited about in Japan. In addition to the recovery that Mike talked about more broadly, We do have S3 Ultra Resilient that's coming probably right before the probably in Q2 We'll begin rolling that out. Low risk approval is also a big thing. We recently got approval for TAV and TAV, which is a big thing for Japan.

Speaker 8

So we're really looking for them to recover and get back to more of their historic growth rates.

Speaker 13

And if I could follow-up to just resilient in the U. S, you talked about 10% center penetration at this point, but can you speak to just your strategy Adoption interest in Q1 and how you think about at this point the cadence of converting centers over the next few quarters? And thank you for taking the question.

Speaker 8

Sure. Yes. So, we're really pleased with how the launch has gone so far. Remember, this approval came earlier than we anticipated. So It felt like we had built up a ton of inventory and so we had to build up that inventory as we roll it out.

Speaker 8

So we're pretty much right, I think, where we plan to be and we expect the rollout to continue Through the entire year, but we're happy with Alcon so far. The physician feedback has been positive and we think It's good for us. We're also going for a price increase, which is the first price increase that we've done in since launch, which has been over 10 years. It's pretty modest, it's less than 5%, but we think it reflects the innovation and the value that we bring with the Resilient technology.

Speaker 13

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Travis Steed with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Hey, thanks for taking the question. A quick clarification was on FX. I think the revenue guidance stayed the same, but FX was $100,000,000 better. Just want to make sure I understood the moving parts on that. And then the question was also on U.

Speaker 14

S. TAVR. It's hard to tell exactly, but it looks like U. S. Tower was down versus Q3.

Speaker 14

So I don't know if there's anything to call it specific headwinds in Q4 that maybe weren't in Q3, If it was actually down in Q3 versus Q4? And then how to think about Q1 in the U. S, Can that still be up sequentially and grow kind of year over year in that 9% to 12% range?

Speaker 4

Sure. So on the first question about FX, yes, you're right. We originally

Speaker 6

We do think there will be

Speaker 4

a headwind to sales in the first half. There will be a tailwind to sales in the second half of twenty twenty three, but it averages out to flat full year

Speaker 2

If the rates stay

Speaker 4

at the current rates. At the current rates. Regarding TAVR, no, there was actual growth in TAVR in the U. S. Q4 Over Q3, we're expecting more growth in Q1 over Q4.

Speaker 4

So we're seeing sequential growth and year over year growth expansion in U. S. TAVR and Global TAVR.

Speaker 14

Okay, great. I'll recheck the model on that. And then on SAPIEN 3 RESILIA, you mentioned a little bit of color on the launch. Curious how It's gone like price uplift versus volume discounts. You're actually getting all the price because I think the guidance is assuming stable pricing.

Speaker 14

So I just want to make sure I'm clear on point, how to think about pricing impact this year and maybe the pricing comes more in 2024?

Speaker 8

Yes. So We are going for a price increase and we're going for a price increase across the board. What ends up having with pricing is as volume Goes up, we have rebates and those were built in whether it was SAPIEN 3 pricing or whether it's SAPIEN 3 UR pricing, but we are going for a net increase On every SAPIEN 3R valve that we have. Again, it's about $1500 less than 5%, But we are going there for that across the board.

Speaker 14

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Time, our next question comes from Josh Jennings with Cowen. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to just start with A question on the surgical valve business, it grew to higher clip than the TAVR franchise in the Q4. Just wanted to maybe get some a better understanding on this time, prioritization of heart surgeries that you called out, do you expect that to continue and maybe it'd be beneficial To understand price versus volume growth for the Circular valve business in 4Q? And I just have one follow-up.

Speaker 15

Sure.

Speaker 8

Well, I'll start and then if I run into trouble, I'll call my buddy, Dabine, to help me out here. But overall, the thing with surgical patients is they don't require the same amount of workup as the TAVR patients. So they can move through the system faster because they don't require things such as the CT for valve sizing where that's done intra procedurally For the surgeon and so there's just less workup that has to be done for those patients. So maybe it's a little less impacted. I think there's also a mindset When a patient needs open heart surgery, that just is more urgency in the system and those patients can move through a little bit quicker.

Speaker 8

We'll see how that Over time, but we continue to drive Resilia on the surgical side as well. We have the MITREZ launch, which is going and we continue to advance Resilia on the aortic side as well with Inspiras And those continue. I don't know if you have anything to add, Devine?

Speaker 6

Yes. The only other comment I'll make is we talk about heart valve surgery being prioritized within hospitals. We see a bit that, as Larry said, in the food chain of kind of surgeries, we see that people generally, If they are shorting cardiac surgery resources, help start moving resources to these really high acuity, really important patients from other parts Other Surgery departments, you actually see a little bit of resource moving, which I think has helped cardiac surgery keep its volumes overall. That being said, the macro picture, right, we always expect that TAVR is going to increase in the aortic valve replacement, but we

Speaker 15

Thanks for that. And then just a follow-up, I know the early TAVR results are not in the very near term, but Thinking about the asymptomatic severe aortic stenosis bucket and just the percentage of total severe aortic stenosis patients in the United Do you guys have any new kind of estimates in terms of that? Is that a 30% of total, 40% of total or lower? Just wanted to Better understand what early TAVR could unlock? Thanks a lot.

Speaker 8

Yes. It's a difficult question because the literature is all over the place On this topic and there's not great studies on this, in terms of how it gets looked at. There's a lot of studies out there that say for every Asymptomatic patient or for every symptomatic patient, there's an asymptomatic patient. So that's probably on probably the higher end. There's other studies that says that it's a little bit lower.

Speaker 8

But I think regardless, it's significant, but I think the bigger issue here is it impacts how patients flow through the system, because patients come and the doctor says, How are you feeling? And maybe that day the patient feels fine, but 2 weeks ago they were struggling and that doesn't necessarily get picked up. I think if we could take the symptom assertion Just out of the equation for patients and if your echo says that you have severe AS, you move directly to therapy, I think it would just be a game changer for our patients flow through the system. And it's one of the reasons we Chuck on early TAVR is we think we need to have the definitive data that shows what happens when you really stress echo these people, what happens when You really follow patients that are asymptomatic and that's really the purpose of the trial. But we think it's a significant opportunity to change how aortic stenosis is treated.

Speaker 15

Appreciate. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Adam Mater with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Great.

Speaker 16

Thank you for taking the questions. The first question is on ACC, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. I'm wondering if there's anything that you'd call out From an Edwards standpoint in terms of notable clinical data and then there's a competitor study in the tricuspid space with triluminate. Do you think that study potentially catalyze the transcatheter tricuspid market both repair and replacement? And then I had one follow-up.

Speaker 16

Thanks.

Speaker 6

Yes, this is Devine. I'll hit a little bit on the obviously the tricuspid trial, specifically the triluminate study. We actually wouldn't be surprised if Triluminate shows positive results and gets approved by ACC or around ACC. I mean, to me, this would be an amazing And great opportunity for patients to continue to get more data and have better patient treatment. But that being said, we see actually in Europe right now that Clinicians are actually very positive about the performance of our differentiated PASCAL Precision device there and seem to really like it for tricuspid patients, so we look forward to that to obviously bring that technology to the U.

Speaker 6

S. In the future. But we think for the therapy overall, obviously, More data is helping patient care.

Speaker 2

And then on a high level, we'll be at ACC in full force. It's a chance for us to be close to customers, but We don't have any real groundbreaking trials that are going to be introduced at that time.

Speaker 16

Okay. Thanks, Mike. And then just for a quick follow-up, One actually on capital allocation and clearly you're going to remain focused within structural heart, but I also think you've talked recently About having interest in a potential new adjacency and I think referring to heart failure, you have an internal atrial shunt program And you also have some investments in external assets. So when should we expect to learn more here about these initiatives and just the broader path

Speaker 2

time, we don't end up talking about these until some of the risk has really been taken out. These early stages, these are big transformative therapies that have big potential, but they also have pretty big risk at the early stage of the program. And we feel like it's more appropriate to share it with investors when they may have more uncertainty. So for example, like we're already in Human trials. So, we're not likely to talk about this for competitive reasons, but it is something that's very much A priority for our company.

Speaker 2

We think the kind of skill sets that Edwards has could be applied really,

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Newitter with Truist Securities. Please state your question.

Speaker 3

Hi, thanks for taking the question. And thank you, Scott, for the color on the quarter over quarter growth U. S. TAVR expectation in 1Q. But I'm time, I'm hoping to just parse out the expectation around cadence for improvement U.

Speaker 3

S. Versus international in 'twenty three. Seems like international, a little bit more kind of COVID surge impacted, maybe you have a little more visibility into the turning of the tide there. U. S.

Speaker 3

More hospital staffing, it feels more gradual. A, is that correct? And do you think it's right for us to be modeling a little bit faster recovery and acceleration perhaps time, we're pleased to see that in 1Q and the 1st part of the year internationally and then maybe a little bit more of an acceleration for the U. S. In the back half and Keep it more gradual in the first half.

Speaker 3

Is that a good way to think about it? And do we have the pieces right around your visibility?

Speaker 4

So Rick, first On the sequential growth, I want to go back to something Travis asked about before. Q3 to Q4 in 2022, 3, sequential growth in the U. S. And globally. As it relates to the full year 2023, I'll start and then others chime in.

Speaker 4

We're expecting contributions both in the U. S. And outside of the U. S. It's tough to pin down exactly which regions are going to grow at what rates, but we think that we're going to get contributions from all of our major regions to that 9% to 12% underlying growth in 'twenty three.

Speaker 2

That's right. I mean, if we just look at what's happened here in the recent past, whether it's the U. S. Or Europe or Japan, our 3 biggest regions, they've been lower than what they should be based on the struggles that they've had with the aftermath of COVID and we expect that To improve throughout 2023.

Speaker 3

Okay. I guess, but it's not like you have better visibility into the two Factors, the COVID surge impacts in your challenged areas in Germany and Japan, better visibility there versus hospital staffing. It feels like You're saying you expect all of them to move more or less together?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would say we have similar visibility on all We're very close to our customers, very close to our centers, and we feel like we know what's happening on a center by center basis, and we just feel that the environment Has and will continue to improve.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you. And just following up to Vijay's question, are half of your centers still doing double digit growth in I know it's variant, but do you still see that level of growth from at least a cohort or half of your centers?

Speaker 8

Yes, I don't know if I could pin it down exactly to a percentage, but certainly we see a large portion or a large section of our centers that are still doing double digit growth. And again, I think It's not so much COVID, but it's the COVID restrictions that happen. And I think the parts of the country where those restrictions have been Release sooner, I think we see those centers doing better, but we expect the rest to come along. I mean, if you look broadly, those restrictions are easing really across the globe. And I think that's what is one thing that helps us in 2023.

Speaker 2

Yes. And Larry, you might add that you saw some weeks during Q4 Where there was some significant volume done and made us feel good about the fact that there must be some capacity out there.

Speaker 8

Yes, we had some of the biggest weeks that we've had our history in Q4. So a week doesn't make a year, but The fact that they were able to do it for several weeks indicates that staffing is getting better and capacity is coming back into the system and It's one of the things that gives us confidence in our guidance for 2023.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes our question and answer session for today. I'll turn the floor back to management for closing remarks. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Okay. Well, thanks all for your continued interest in Edwards. Scott, Mark and I welcome any additional questions by telephone.

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