NYSE:USX U.S. Xpress Enterprises Q3 2021 Earnings Report U.S. Xpress Enterprises EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.07Consensus EPS $0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.07One Year Ago EPS$0.20U.S. Xpress Enterprises Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$491.14 millionExpected Revenue$474.44 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$16.70 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AU.S. Xpress Enterprises Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2021Date10/20/2021TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, October 20, 2021Conference Call Time8:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptQuarterly Report (10-Q)Company ProfilePowered by U.S. Xpress Enterprises Q3 2021 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 20, 2021 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the U. S. Xpress Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:17I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Garvey, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:26Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the U. S. Xpress Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. Eric Fuller, U. Speaker 100:00:34S. Press' President and CEO will lead our call today, followed by Eric Peterson, our CFO, who will discuss our financial results. Additionally, Joel Gard, President of Express Technologies and Cameron Randsell, President of Verint are here to answer questions. Our discussions today include forecasts and other information that are considered forward looking statements. While these statements reflect Our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Speaker 100:01:04These risk factors are described in U. S. Express' most recent 10 ks filed with the SEC and in the Form 10 Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2021, which is expected to be filed with the SEC in the next several days. We undertake no duty or obligation to update our forward looking statements. During today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. Speaker 100:01:30The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measure can be found in our earnings release. As a Speaker 200:01:46reminder, a replay of this call Speaker 100:01:47will be available on the Investors section of our website. We have also posted an updated supplemental presentation to accompany today's discussion, which is available on our website at investor.usxpress.com. We will be referencing portions of the supplement as a part of today's call. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Eric Fuller. Speaker 300:02:07Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. This afternoon, I will review our 3rd quarter results and provide an update on our digital transformation. On today's call, there are 5 main themes that I want to discuss. 1st and foremost, we sequentially grew our overall truck count in the quarter, which is a key inflection point 283 tractors. Our brokerage segment grew revenue 62% year over year, demonstrating its ability to provide expanded capacity solutions for our customers. Speaker 300:02:52We made tremendous progress repricing our dedicated portfolio in Q3 and expect a full quarter of higher rates in Q4 to provide improved margins. We remain committed to investing in Variant and Express Technologies to position our company for long term profitable growth as we focus on doubling revenue over the next 4 years. Turning to Variant, we continue to grow the tractor and Variant during the Q3, exiting Q3 with 12.83 tractors, which represents approximately 11% growth sequentially and we remain on track to exit 2021 with 1500 or more tractors The variant fleet, which would represent approximately 120% growth year over year. Tractor growth in our variant fleet Outpaced attrition in the remainder of our OTR fleet and I am pleased to report that our overall truck count grew sequentially, which was what we expected coming out of the Q2. As a reminder, we launched Veriant just under 2 years ago with 5 trucks and have grown the business to an annual revenue run rate of approximately $250,000,000 exiting Q3. Speaker 300:04:10We believe this is a remarkable accomplishment given the macro environment that we have been navigating over those 2 years. Since the end of the Q3, we have added close to 100 additional tractors to Verint. Importantly, We have added to our tractor count while maintaining our safety stats, which is a key part of the incremental operating margin improvement and variant compared to our legacy OTR fleet. We now expect to return to sequential total tractor growth as variance growth has outpaced the contraction in the remainder of our OTR fleet. Turning to dedicated. Speaker 300:04:46Last quarter, we discussed addressing price to value mismatches within our dedicated portfolio of business. And I am pleased to say that the vast majority of those mismatches have been addressed, which led to an increase in overall rates across the portfolio of 3% in the 3rd quarter. Our rate exiting Q3 was up closer to 7% sequentially And we expect to see that rate improvement benefit our operating income beginning in the Q4. These price increases were necessary to pay our professional drivers competitive wages to provide the service levels that our customers have come to expect from us. Looking ahead for this business, We expect truck count to hold steady during the Q4 of 2021 with modest truck growth in future years as we believe our growth opportunities lie in variant from a truckload perspective. Speaker 300:05:40We expect the operating margin in the business to improve steadily Long term, as we improve both the professional driver experience as well as our cost discipline in dedicated. Turning to our brokerage segment, Express Technologies grew revenue 62% year over year to approximately $91,000,000 More importantly, gross margin was up 4 50 basis points compared to the Q3 of 2020. In addition, The percentage of loads processed on our digital platform increased to 83% in the quarter. We are in the early innings of our transformation within our brokerage segment to establish a scalable and differentiated digital freight marketplace. We believe doing so not only creates a more resolute operational foundation for our entire business, but enables innovation into adjacent business as deeper engagement with an expanded network of shippers and carriers is realized. Speaker 300:06:42In pursuit of these growth initiatives, We will continue to prioritize responsible revenue and loan growth as we work to demonstrate our value proposition to our carrier and shipper partners. As we continue to build out our network density to help ensure broader operational resilience for U. S. Express and our partners, We continue to target growing this business at a roughly breakeven OR in the near term. With that, I would like to turn the call to Eric Peterson to discuss our financial results in more detail. Speaker 200:07:15Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. In the 3rd quarter, we generated operating 20. Excluding the impact of fuel surcharge, revenue was $451,800,000 in the quarter, an increase of 11.9% year over year driven by increases in both truckload and brokerage revenue. In our Over the Road division, Variant Optimizer is now prioritizing for yield, which is a combination of rate and utilization. This prioritization helped drive average revenue per tractor I'm really pleased to highlight the progress made in our dedicated division and increasing rates across the portfolio, which resulted And a 7.4% increase in rate year over year. Speaker 200:08:18This helps to increase average revenue per tractor per week to 4,340 An increase of 6.7% year over year. Dedicated's rate exiting the quarter was up approximately 7% compared to our 2nd quarter rate And it's important to keep in mind that the rate increases were back end loaded in the quarter, whereas we had a full 13 weeks of increased costs as we were already paying our impact on our truckload operating margin beginning in the 4th quarter. Turning to operating ratio, adjusted operating ratio deteriorated in to 97.8% compared to 94.1% in the Q3 of 2020. The deterioration in Our operating ratio in the Q3 is primarily the result of our conscious decision to build the foundation of a company that can double its revenue over the next 4 years and support a fleet much larger than our current fleet size. As a result, during the transition period of Building out this infrastructure ahead of the truck count growth, our fixed costs will temporarily be too high relative to our current volumes. Speaker 200:09:43As we continue to grow our variant fleet into the size of our infrastructure, we believe that our fixed costs will decline as a percentage of revenue and ultimately Q4 and the full year as well as reiterate a few other points. In terms of total truck count in the 4th quarter, we expect Modest sequential growth in overall truck count as the growth in variant has now surpassed the reduction in our remaining over the road We expect utilization to be flat sequentially as variant continues to optimize for yield rather than utilization alone. We expect truckload rates to be up 2% to 4% sequentially and modestly exceed anticipated cost inflation in the 4th quarter. We continue to expect a full year effective tax rate of 26% to 28% before any discrete items. We continue to expect net Capital expenditures of $130,000,000 to $150,000,000 for the full year, and we now expect interest expense to be approximately $15,000,000 As a reminder, we have an equity investment in an autonomous trucking company, which we mark Because it's not indicative of our operating performance. Speaker 200:11:08With that, I would like to turn it back to Eric Fuller for final comments. Speaker 300:11:12Thanks, Eric. Before we open the call for Q and A, I want to take a couple of minutes to discuss our outlook over the next few years, how we are measuring success And how we think you should evaluate our progress as we execute against our long term goal of doubling revenue over the next 4 years. 1st and foremost, While we are extremely excited about the course that we have charted for the company over the next several years and our progress towards it, we believe the trucking industry is moving closer to We believe it is only a matter of time before the venture capital that has been flowing into adjacent industries such as freight brokerage, Alternative fuels and driverless technologies make its way into traditional asset based trucking. Someone will solve the scalability issues that have been inherent in our industry since its inception, and we believe our focus on building a digitally enabled fleet, Speaker 400:12:07which is Speaker 300:12:07recruited, planned, dispatched and managed using artificial intelligence and digital platform is how to do it. Therefore, Our focus remains on investing in Variant and Express Technologies. Metrics wise, the most important metric to follow and gauge our As long as Verint continues to grow, we will continue to allocate our capital towards that business. Keep in mind Each tractor added to the fleet adds approximately $25,000 of annual incremental operating income compared to the legacy fleet. Next, we continue to add truck count to our variant fleet while keeping our safety stats in line with our long term expectations. Speaker 300:12:53Preventable accidents from 1,000,000,000 miles is a leading indicator, so fewer accidents today will benefit us more in future quarters as claims have a long tail. Turnover is extremely important to our ability to scale our business and improve profitability. We remain confident in our long term expectations for turnover in Verint, but expect that quarter to quarter it may swing particularly as the market for Professional drivers remains extremely competitive. As we prepare for more growth in 2022, Variant is focused on maintaining its driver experience, which is critical to achieving our longer term turnover expectations. Finally, On the metrics, pay attention to revenue per truck per week in variance. Speaker 300:13:41We are rate takers given the fragmentation in our industry, The variance optimizer is uniquely able to solve for how best to monetize the available freight in our network given the various constraints, including locations of trucks, Trailers, drivers, holiday schedules, etcetera. This is a combinatorial problem that generates Potential solution sets, which are orders of magnitude too many for humans to count, let alone calculate, Speaker 500:14:08which is why we Speaker 300:14:09are using algorithms to plan our loads instead of people. Looking ahead to 2022, we are focused on continuing to The company for long term success by increasing the truck count and variant and continuing to grow revenue and load count In Express Technology, we believe we have reached the tipping point where variance growth will outpace the contraction of the legacy OTR fleet and will result in sequential net total fleet growth over the coming quarters. And finally, as the last few weeks have shown, Variant continues to grow, which we believe will ultimately be the driver of improved financial results. With that operator, we are ready to take questions. Operator00:14:54At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question Our first question is from Ken Hoexter from Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:15:30Ken? Yes. Hello? Hey, Ken. Speaker 600:15:34Hey, Eric and Eric. How are you? Speaker 700:15:36I'm doing good. Speaker 600:15:38Good. Can you maybe just good afternoon. Can you talk a little bit about your move You noted raising driver pay at the beginning of the period, but yet you waited until later on to start countering With rate increases, we saw their carriers obviously a bit more aggressive to do that faster and especially in this environment to provide that capacity. So are you doing again, are you raising pay again? Should we expect another overhang given this environment or are just the new rates just catching up now? Speaker 800:16:12No. And there Speaker 300:16:12was a little bit of a catch up effect, Ken. I mean, look, we can we always go back and look at Our previous quarters and how we performed and that was an area where we admittedly did not get the rate That we needed in order to properly compensate our drivers. And so That was an area where we did end up giving some driver increases prior to getting some rate increases and we didn't get those rate increases as timely We would like, but we now feel like we are at a point from a rate perspective that we are comfortable. And while there are Small increases that go into effect, we should be maintaining that rate from here on out and shouldn't see additional cost In relation to that those rate improvements. Speaker 600:17:08So I'm sorry. So you said that there are still more small Driver pay increases or rate increases on the Speaker 300:17:15I mean, some marginal pay and there's always I mean, there's pay increases that happen. I mean, In this environment, it's happening in real time. But to say that there won't be any I don't think there'll be really any significant cost increases In that area and what we have in rate is sufficient and we will be able to maintain both the rate And the margins going forward into the next quarter. Speaker 600:17:42So into the next quarter, if you're now if these are back end weighted, should we be seeing Mid-90s ORM, and where do you go from a 98? It seems like you've followed around here through this year so far in a great rate environment. What does it take to now move out of that up to 90s? Speaker 300:18:01I mean, I from a dedicated perspective, we're very comfortable where we are from a rate perspective. I mean, we're there. It took us probably 2 quarters longer than we would like. So not necessarily thrilled that it took us longer, but we're there and we feel like we have the rates For the current environment in place, there's always going to Speaker 700:18:22be a little tweak in. Speaker 300:18:22There's a few accounts here and there that may get tweaked, but for the most part from a dedicated We're comfortable with where the rates are. Speaker 600:18:32Okay. I'm sorry. And did you want to hit on the OR Thoughts? Is this enough to get you moving out of that upper 90s? Or is this just kind of incremental? Speaker 300:18:41I think it's going to improve. You look at dedicated, it makes up about percent of our revenues or so. And the rest of the organization, it is about growth. So we're continuing to focus on Growth within our variant truck count and that's the key to our operating ratio improvement. That's the key to our earnings. Speaker 300:19:01And We still believe that we're on the right track. We believe in the story and our strategy. We think it's the right strategy. We prove it out almost on a daily basis in our modeling and we know that we're as long as that continues to grow and we continue to add to our variant truck count fleet, then we're going to be Exactly where we want to be in the future and it's and we feel really good about the next couple of years. Speaker 600:19:26One more if I may. Just on brokerage, I just want to understand how you don't post a gain in this quarter. I understand you were talking about still looking for growth, yet we've seen Other companies that are in the midst of massive growth, surprisingly post larger gains than they had ever anticipated just given the strength of the rate environment, Spot market, maybe you could just walk us through your thoughts on that? Speaker 300:19:48Yes, Ken, I'm going to let Joel Gard answer that one. Speaker 900:19:52Thanks. Joel here. Thanks I mean to be as straightforward as possible, I think that the biggest significant And here is that we continue to be in the investment space. We've seen similar improvement in our freight mix and gross margin The numbers for the quarter. So, on the future, yes, certainly a great environment right now that we also took But doing so with an eye towards where we're going over the long run. Speaker 600:20:34Great. Thanks for the insight guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:20:43Our next question is from Ravi Shanker from Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:20:49Hey, this is Christine McGarvey on for Ravi. How are you guys doing? Thanks for taking the question. Maybe I can follow-up on the OR question or ask it in a slightly The Varian truck count is clearly on track for 1500. That's only a couple 100 away now at this point, but the margin Kind of flow through has been a little bit elusive. Speaker 800:21:13So it might be helpful to kind of parse out the dedicated impact that you guys have kind of This quarter versus the fixed cost as a percentage dynamic that's happening there and maybe how we think about the target kind of beyond that 1500 and how you guys are thinking about the inflection beyond that? Speaker 300:21:34Hey, this is Eric Peterson. To answer Speaker 200:21:37your question, one point we wanted to make is that one, we're focused on the longer term. We're Right now, we're working on our landing pad, which means that our quarterly earnings not as focused On the next 90 days as we are is where we're headed. However, with that said, as far as the impact of these dedicated price increases, If you look at it on a sequential basis from the second to third quarter, we're up a couple percent, but we're up actually Close to 7% on our rate increases where we're entering the 4th quarter compared to where we were in the 2nd quarter. And so we think that we'll have some of that will Help us a number greater than 0 better than a 98 OR all things constant. If you're looking at from Variant as we go into the Q4. Speaker 200:22:27And in the Q3, we only grew our Variant truck count By approximately 120 tractors and we had grown by 470 in the 1st 2 quarters. So we didn't really get a lot of benefit in the 3rd quarter from Variant Growth. Now with that said, just like our dedicated price increases that were back end weighted at the end of the Q3, so was our growth in Variant. And we've already grown at approximately 100 trucks since the end of the quarter. So that's something we're seeing during where I wish it was in a straight line left to right at the same float, but it's going to accelerate then it's going to slow down and accelerate. Speaker 200:23:05And I would say the last 5 weeks that variant truck count growth has started to accelerate. And as it becomes a higher percentage of our Our revenue, you're going to see it have a more meaningful impact on our overall earnings. Variant is still less than 20% of our overall earnings. We're extremely excited about it. And as it becomes a more meaningful percentage of our truckload revenues, we're going to see that the earnings improve On a sequential basis. Speaker 200:23:33We feel like we've been through that hard point where the tear down of our legacy over the road fleet It's now it's losing the race compared to the growth of variance. So we're growing more trucks on a quarterly basis in variance than what we're tearing down in legacy fleet. And we haven't shown sequential truck count in our over the road fleet since the Q2 of 2020. And so we think this is the inflection point quarter and We're excited about the good times to come, not just in the next couple of quarters, but over the next 2 years. Speaker 800:24:05Got it. That's very helpful to kind of think through. If I could ask A follow-up. As we think about heading into next year, an interesting comment in the deck, I think you noted you expect spot rates to actually Seed contract through next year, just to be curious on what's giving you confidence there and any early read on what we can expect for contract rates in 2022? Yes. Speaker 300:24:28I think we expect this environment to continue. We don't really see the environment changing all that much Where we're at today, if you look at macro conditions, we think demand will stay strong well into at least the first half of twenty twenty two, I'd really say the second half of twenty twenty two, but There's always a little bit of concern about some supply chain issues and whether we end up in a situation where COVID just goes away altogether. Do we end up where people over index a little bit more on experiences and things like that? But For the most part, we really don't see demand slowing down. And even when the consumer slows down, there is a significant restocking situation that has to On inventory level that probably leads to increased demand for another 6 to 9 months. Speaker 300:25:15So we don't really see demand really slowing down. On the supply side, And it is about equipment to an extent and that is creating further headwinds with trucks and trailers. But really it's all about drivers And we have a serious driver issue within the industry. We don't have enough drivers. We can't find enough people that want to do the job. Speaker 300:25:37We're continuing to See that struggle across the entire industry and I don't see any catalyst that would significantly change that. So I think until We were to get to what I truly believe would be a more of a global recession, I don't see anything that's going to significantly change that only changed that driver situation. And so that leads us to believe that this market is going to stay strong. So in regards to rates, Spot rates are going to stay robust, probably a healthy premium, maybe not as big a premium as what we saw Last year, on a percentage basis, but still a fairly healthy premium relative to contract rates for the majority, if not the entire year next year. On the contract side, we anticipate being in that high single digits, so in that 5% to 10% range on contract. Speaker 300:26:33We still think there's been some pretty significant cost creep, both from the driver pay, Equipment, other things that have occurred this year and so we think that it's really necessary and also given the market conditions that we see a 5% to 10% rate Increase on contract for, 2022. Speaker 800:26:52Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Really helpful. Thank you for the time. Speaker 300:26:55Yes. Thank Speaker 700:27:01you. Speaker 300:27:34Okay. Hey, Scott, I don't know what happened to our operator. Are you there? If so, I think you can ask a question. Operator? Speaker 300:28:01Hello. I apologize. I think we've lost our operator for a second. So This has never happened before, but and I don't know if there's anybody there that Scott Group, you are in the queue for the next question. If you're there, then we can go ahead and move forward. Speaker 300:28:19But I don't know if the system allows you to talk or not. All right. Hold with this real quick because this is we're trying to figure out it looks like we've lost our operator. And Those in the queue are not able to answer questions at this time. So we're still kind of holding Well, I guess, I'm trying to think of other questions that or other items that we could talk about. Speaker 300:29:21I think One thing that I would like to mention is the our plan around variant is on track. We still like we said in the In the prepared remarks that we still believe we're going to be over 1500 trucks by the end of the year, we are on pace for that. While we did have a little A slowdown in Q3 related to a few items. So there were some macro conditions, obviously, this driver situation has gotten progressively worse. And So that did create a little bit of a slowdown in our growth. Speaker 300:29:55Since the end of the quarter, we have added nearly 100 drivers to Variant. And so if you look at over 3 weeks timeframe, we've added nearly 100 trucks. So we're on a run rate right now of adding 30 net And over the last say 3 to 4 weeks, we think that absent holidays, we can continue something in that range hopefully. And so that should give us a pretty hopefully over 1500, we believe over 1500 trucks by the end of the year and also put us On a trajectory going into Q1, where we think we will continue the growth in variant well for really for the entire Balance of the year in 2022. So, our strategy is in line. Speaker 300:30:41We still think we're on the right path and that things are moving forward The way we have anticipated and hoped. We also there's been questions I know about Express Technologies and our brokerage division and as Joel mentioned, we're on pace there as well. We are in an investment phase. We're continuing to invest in our business, Invest in our growth and we're focused on that 3 year build and we're moving in the right direction. I got a couple of questions. Speaker 300:31:16Go ahead. Speaker 1000:31:17This is Robert. We do apologize for the technical Our next question is coming from Scott Group from Wolfe Research. Your line is now live. Speaker 700:31:25Hey guys, can you hear me now? Speaker 300:31:27Yes, we got you, Scott. Sorry about that. Speaker 700:31:29Okay, cool. All right. Speaker 300:31:31So the I Speaker 700:31:34know you talked a few times about Just sequential margin improvement. Can you just help maybe just put some expectations around it? Is it 100 basis points, More or less, I'm just not sure how to think about it. Speaker 200:31:47Yes. I mean, if you're looking at the dedicated with those rate increases Yes, heading up, there's at 40%, all things constant that could give us 100 basis points to 200 basis points improvement from those rate increases Alone. And then I think in your model, it's the volume play with those variant tractors. It's going to come down to that ending count And where that runs. And Scott, I hear you. Speaker 200:32:10It's just it's tough for me to give guidance on these 90 day scorecards As a management team, we're really focused on this landing pad of what we're doing to scale. Right now, our fixed cost as a percentage of revenue, as you know, they're They're probably 700 plus basis points too high because we have this foundation that we can really grow on. So on a sequential basis With this transformation, we'll have quarters that are perceived on people looking at this 90 day scorecard More disappointing than others, but our scorecard that we're focused on is growing the variant truck count, keeping the safety stats and keeping the driver experience One that will have relatively low turnover, significantly lower turnover than the industry average and that's our focus and the numbers in the longer term are going to more than take care of themselves. Speaker 700:33:01Okay. Are we still seeing that big delta between utilization on variant Versus legacy trucks, just because the mix is obviously going more and more to variant, but the utilization is not It's still going down. Speaker 300:33:19Yes. We're really measuring the revenue per truck per week and so we're continuing to see that delta as it to revenue per truck per week as we optimize for margin. And so we feel we're still Speaker 1000:33:32Moving Speaker 300:33:33in the right direction in regards to our older legacy fleet and our variant Truck fleet, like I said, in regards to the revenue per truck. So that's the item that we're really watching. Obviously, utilization is a component of that, but also being able to optimize the right freight that's priced in the right manner is going to Speaker 900:33:55give us the best result and that's Speaker 300:33:56where we're optimizing today for. Okay. The other truck Speaker 700:34:00Okay. The other trucking revenue was up a lot from last year's Q2. Any color on Speaker 200:34:16Visual components of that revenue, but, Scott, so but yes, it's just miscellaneous revenues that are increasing not necessarily related to direct truckload operations. Speaker 300:34:30Is that a Does this Speaker 700:34:31new run rate continue? I'm not even sure what's in this segment. Speaker 200:34:36Yes, that run rate will continue. And As an overall percentage to our those revenues are not in our truckload stats, our revenue per tractor per week. It's more miscellaneous revenue. What's in that bucket Lease revenue from our independent contractor program and those types of revenues. But yes, I think you can expect that run rate to continue. Speaker 700:34:57Okay. And then last thing, the just on the driver side. So it sounds like you've seen things pick up a little bit in the last few weeks. Do you think that there's some improvement in driver market? And then I'll just marry it with your thoughts on Speaker 300:35:13Any kind of vaccine mandate and how you may Operator00:35:16or may not respond Speaker 300:35:17to that? Yes. So on the first part of the question, I don't think the market's gotten better. I mean, we talked to a lot of peers, especially private peers and binge Mark with a lot of people and I'm hearing that the environment has not gotten better. Now I believe we have done some things In our individual business that is improving the driver hiring situation and also improving some of our attrition issues. Speaker 300:35:47So we've put together some plans and some processes in place that we think are helping us and that's the reason we're seeing growth. But I don't think that this is somehow a market condition where things are loosened up because we're not hearing that from others. In regards to the vaccine mandate, we are waiting on the OSHA ruling. I keep hearing that it's imminent at some point over the next week or so. We are anticipating that not being something we want to see. Speaker 300:36:17We would love to see truck drivers have a carve out. I know that Canada had a vaccine mandate and I believe truck drivers were carved out, but I do not get the feeling that Drivers are going to be carved out of this mandate. So we're waiting and anticipating if the mandate goes out the way we suspect, Yes, we're concerned. I think there's a fair amount of drivers that are kind of By the nature of kind of their personality and the reason they migrate to this industry in a way is they don't necessarily want to be Told what to do and this is one of those items. And so I think you're going to see a pretty significant pushback from the driver population. Speaker 300:37:02We're at the point of trying to figure out, okay, so if we have to test on a weekly basis, what are we going to do? What's the process? What Kind of how are we going to set that up? And at this point, I would tell you, Scott, I don't know the answer, but we're working on it. But it's something we're definitely Nervous about, I guess, it's probably a fair way to put it. Speaker 300:37:23I think that we will be able to come up with a way in order to deal with it and handle it, but it Couldn't have a pretty large impact on the driver population as we go forward. Speaker 700:37:34And then maybe just last thing real quick. How are you what are you hearing, if anything, About hours of service given supply chain and what the government is trying to do right now. Speaker 300:37:44Yes, there's been a little bit of talk about Some relaxation of hours of service or even relaxation of driver requirements for people coming into the industry. And I know that I believe the Secretary of Transportation has made a couple of comments in that regard. I'm not aware of anything At this point, that's either been said or decided. So at this point, it's been just dialogue from the Secretary and that's really all we've heard. And I don't believe even ATA really has anything at this point of note. Speaker 300:38:20And I think everybody's waiting to see if there is something that Does either get announced or go into effect. Okay. Speaker 700:38:27Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:38:29Thanks, Scott. Thank you. Speaker 1000:38:31Our next question today is coming from Jack Atkins from Stephens. Your line is now live. Speaker 500:38:35Okay, great. Thanks and good afternoon. Speaker 300:38:38Good afternoon, Jack. Speaker 500:38:39So I guess my first Question is amount revenue per truck per week in the OTR segment. When I look at Sort of the 2 year stack there, I think it's up 2% Q3 versus 3Q 2019, just to kind of take the volatility of the last year out. We've seen other folks report sort of a 2 year stack growth rate in terms of revenue per truck per week in the teens, mid teens. Can you walk us through maybe some of the puts and takes why you guys aren't maybe seeing that type of improvement there on a 2 year Does it having to do with the transition or just trying to understand why we're not seeing a little more rate benefit there? I understand utilization of miles per Speaker 200:39:26Yes, Jack, this is Eric Peterson. Fair question. I think if you look at the overall transformation Of our over the road division today versus where it was 2 years ago, I think we need to remember that we're no longer feeding that division with student drivers. When you're feeding that division with student drivers, you get the organic creation of a team truck that's going to run more miles on a weekly basis. So what it's doing for Utility is it's making those comps look like there's not as much improvement of what's going on in the industry and you're exactly right. Speaker 200:39:57But part of the answer is that we have significantly fewer teams and we don't have students in the trough where you have a super solo or team asset Generating more miles on a weekly basis. Number 2 is, it's intentional and by design as it relates our variant fleet, if you look at our variant fleet in the optimizer, what it's doing now is it's not saying, hey, go get the most miles you can on this truck this week. It's saying, hey, how can we create the best yield? And that's a combination of both the miles and the rate. And so I think when Doing some of those comparisons, you'll probably see that as far as our rate per mile, where this shows up quantitative instead of my qualitative answer, You'll see that our rate per mile is probably outperforming on 2 year increases on what they've done over 24 months and to offset spend the utility. Speaker 300:40:47But keep in mind too, we've had our net truck count, seated component has come down Over the last year and we are in the process of building and growing that back. And so that's having an effect on that number as Speaker 500:41:05Okay. Got it. Got it. And I guess maybe a follow-up question for Joel on the brokerage side I mean, do you talk about investing for growth there, keeping the business at sort of a 100 OR breakeven level as you're doing Well, what do you mean exactly when you say invest for growth? I mean, is that more volume? Speaker 500:41:28Is that take I'm just trying to understand exactly what that means because I'm a little bit I would have expected, I guess, in a vest for growth Phase with a breakeven ORs, we'd have faster volume growth than we saw in the quarter. Can you kind of walk us through what you mean by that and how that's going to look over the next, Call it couple of years as you scale that business. Speaker 900:41:49Sure. Yes. A couple of things, Jack. I think the biggest thing to start with is Sort of acknowledging some of the historical context that the brokerage business has been maturing from. In a historical sense, it hasn't always been Meeting competency for the business and so the underlying operating model had some work to do with it in order Kind of really get it fit for scale, right? Speaker 900:42:14So some of the investment today has been in things like a transition in the portfolio, refactoring things like freight mix, Kind of bringing some level of health to the underlying fundamentals of the operating model so that we had a better foundation to As we think about proactive investment on a go forward basis, and this is really what's been layered in over the last 3 or 4 quarters, A lot of that is in technology and the enhancement or growth of the dedicated technology team building proprietary Products for our shippers, carriers and employees, as well as enhancements to our headcount within our sales and operations group to be able to So those are really kind of the high notes, right? So we've been going through A level of transformation improvement and just sort of setting up the underlying operating model for scale. And then as that foundation started to take root over the last year, year and a half, We've been sort of proactive in getting out in front of doing the things from an investment perspective that we believe will yield Additional volume in future quarters. So that volume comp is really a function of Austin trading some unhealthy business over the course of the last few quarters, and we're now in a place where the foundation is ready to be, winning into. Speaker 500:43:37Okay. Okay. That's great to hear. And I guess as you think about the next couple of years and scaling that business, we've seen some other Truckload carriers with brokerage subsidiaries really sort of scale their power only or drop and hook Operations over the last 18 months, how are you thinking about that opportunity for your brokerage Speaker 900:44:07Yes. Well, truthfully, I think it's the nexus to being able to drive additional selectivity for Variants, it's absolutely on our radar. I think one of the things that we don't often give ourselves credit for enough Externally is the extent of power only business that our brokerage segment is supporting today. It's not The overwhelming majority, but depending on where we are seasonally, it can make up anywhere between 15% 30% of our daily volume. So there's a competency there that we're I'm actively seeking to enhance. Speaker 900:44:39We've hired some talent from outside of our company, but from within the industry to help scale a power only product in a formal sense and build upon some of the tribal knowledge we have already, but Absolutely a huge part of our roadmap on a go forward basis. Speaker 500:44:57Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess last question and I'll turn it over. But just back to, Eric, Your comments on the vaccine mandate. Obviously, a lot of unknowns about that and sort of the ramifications Good. Speaker 500:45:10That could have on the broader truckload market. I mean, how do you think it would affect U. S. Express' business specifically? I mean, In terms of your drivers, your driver pool, would you expect some attrition there? Speaker 500:45:24Any sort of color you can add? I know it's hard to speak for the broader industry, but how do you think it would impact U. S. Express in particular? Speaker 300:45:32Well, I think there is Some concerns from a number of people that I've talked to that the industry could lose 5 Maybe as much as 8% to 10% of the driver population that may choose to go elsewhere, meaning leave the industry, Because there's not enough small carriers with excess capacity that could absorb those that may leave The larger carriers, if that were to occur and there were some steadfast drivers that would not get vaccinated and There is not a sufficient testing structure that could accommodate them or they may not even want to get tested. And so a fallout of 5% to 10 Our driver pool would affect everybody. I think that is an area that would be very difficult To operate in, it's something that at this point we're prepared to do and We're working on ways to try to mitigate some of that driver attrition that could occur, but it is an area of concern and I think it could be Fairly catastrophic. If we were to lose even 5% of the drivers, that we have within the industry today at the levels that we're already at, I don't know how we absorb that. Speaker 500:46:54Yes, that would be really tough. Okay, that's really helpful. Thanks so much for the time guys. Speaker 300:46:59Thanks. Speaker 1000:47:01Thanks. The next question today is coming from Brian Ossenbeck from JPMorgan. Your line is now live. Speaker 400:47:07Hey, good evening. Thanks for taking the question here. Maybe just one more on the vaccine mandate to wrap it up hopefully. Given we just said about the potential catastrophic Impact potentially in the industry. I guess I'm surprised why there isn't a bigger push or traction to get some sort As exemption, you mentioned the one in Canada. Speaker 400:47:27I think the truckers were exempt from the mask mandate that came out earlier. So you have but you're seeing Derek Peterson pretty confident that there isn't something in the works to hope for. So maybe you can just elaborate on that, please. Speaker 300:47:46Yes. No, I've been very involved in conversations with ATA and with others. Trust me, there is a lot going on behind the scenes to say that there isn't a push to try to get drivers carved out is not the case. I mean, ATA is very involved. There are many others that are very involved in trying to get Some sort of a carve out or concessions for drivers. Speaker 300:48:11Unfortunately, that at this point It's just not feeling all that likely. And so now we're having to figure out how to deal with it, right? So it's We could be surprised that things could come out tomorrow and they could have drivers carved out, we would all be fine. But we're at the point where we were just not real Confident of that with everything that we're hearing back channel and but there's no lack of trying to make that happen. And with supply chain being top of mind both from an economic standpoint and a political standpoint. Speaker 300:48:46It does give me a little bit of hope that it could occur, but I would say my confidence It's fairly low given just some of the back channel conversations and other things that I'm hearing. So we're preparing for a mandate that Could if go into effect, could have some pretty seismic results on the driver population and we're getting ahead of it and starting to have conversation and Speaker 400:49:14Yes. So I was wondering if the supply chain top of mind with all the push there that this would kind of go against Different goal of the administration. Obviously, there's a lot going on, but I know the issues you've been pushing, I'm just surprised you Had as much traction or felt like you've had as much traction? Okay. Just a quick follow-up on Variant in general. Speaker 400:49:36Maybe you can just talk about acquisition costs of the drivers in this environment, maybe some of the turnover. And if you can elaborate just what happened in the last quarter, because it did look like you're making some pretty good progress quarter over quarter and things slowed down and If we accelerate it, so I'm pleased you can elaborate on that. Speaker 300:49:54Yes, Brian. I'll have Cameron answer that if that's all right. Speaker 1100:49:58Hey, this is Cameron. Thanks for the question. You're absolutely right to point out that we definitely saw a small And turnover quarter over quarter. As we talked about during the earlier remarks, we have grown variant really As a startup in Atlanta from essentially the last 2 years from $0 in revenue to I'll be trying to exit the year at about $300,000,000 on a Forward looking revenue run rate. So as you can imagine, when you add near 1400 drivers to the fleet in a short period of We absolutely experienced some growing pains that eroded the driver experience. Speaker 1100:50:36What I'm really happy to report is that our leadership team I identified a lot of these problems, worked tirelessly throughout Q2 and Q3 to resolve them. And I think that's what you're seeing is our accelerated growth in October where we've added Essentially, almost the same number of drivers as we had in the entire quarter. So I feel like a lot of those are behind us. We are watching it very, very closely, but We feel very confident in the continued growth of the driver base now. Speaker 400:51:03Okay. And any comments on Acquisition costs as you find the right channels to get these folks and to retain them? Speaker 1100:51:12Sure. So we have 2 primary channels We recruit Gyroshan and they have very different acquisition costs. 1 is entirely variabilized and I think it's very unique to the model we To Verint, we call it the Verint Ambassador model. So again, that's a variableized model where we have evangelized many of our drivers to go out and recruit new drivers. That comes at a far lower acquisition cost. Speaker 1100:51:33And we've hired we launched that program a little over a year ago. This week, we just hired our 300 drivers through it, so we're seeing some tremendous acceleration. It took us about 9 months to figure out how to get the first 100 drivers into that program, and We've hired our 300 now and we did that in about 2.5 months. So we're seeing some acceleration there. And again, it's a variableized cost model And it's far less than the traditional kind of programmatic media spend that U. Speaker 1100:51:59S. Express and the broader industry really rely on to bring in the lion's share of their drivers. Speaker 400:52:06Okay. And then last quick question, if you can sticking with Verint, if you can just tell us how you're Benchmarking and managing that through some of these growing pains. I saw commentary in the slide deck. I think it's improved 100 basis points OR Quarter over quarter, we've seen the impact of the optimizer, but how do you benchmark and compare that And tweak those as you continue to scale the fleet. What are you measuring internally that we don't see externally? Speaker 200:52:34Yes. As far as that's really tracking that optimizer. There's all of those levers and it's something where we're going to get smarter and smarter on As we continue forward, we were able to increase our overall rate on the variant tractors in the 3rd quarter compared to the 2nd by right over 3%. And that cost us about 7% utilization. But when you look at the net result with 2 thirds variable and 1 third fixed cost, you take That 7% loss in utility and you lose a third of that, the earnings to offset that rate increase, the combination of those 2 was 100 basis Point, you have better results in what I would say is a comparable market. Speaker 200:53:14And so I think that's more of I always talk about macro issues and mirror issues. And to me that's more of a mere accomplishment, something that we did on our own in a consistent macro environment. Speaker 400:53:29Okay. Thank you for the time. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:53:31Thanks, Brian. Speaker 1000:53:33Thanks. Our next question is coming from Felix Bausch from Raymond James. Your line is now live. Speaker 1200:53:38Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Good afternoon. Speaker 900:53:42Hey, I just have Speaker 1000:53:43a I just have a Speaker 1200:53:44big picture one. It's the only one. But I really want to better understand how we should think about some of these tech investments around Varian going forward. It seems like last quarter, we might have been close to an inflection point, meaning variant outgrowing its fixed cost base. Do you still think that is the case? Speaker 1200:54:02And just how should we think about these tech investments heading maybe into 2022 as you continue to refine the model there? Speaker 300:54:08Yes. I think From an inflection point, we're there. It's just we've got to continue that growth, right? And Q3 was a little bit of a difficult growth environment for us for A number of reasons, mostly macro and, like I said, I think we've solved that and figured it out, but it created some issues and the problem was We kind of stalled that truck count out to an extent right on top of that inflection point. And so we didn't get necessarily the benefit that we had hoped for Had we grown a few more 100 trucks, we are now growing and we feel like as we continue to grow, we will further out Distance ourselves from that inflection point, which we still think occurred in Q3. Speaker 300:54:53And so we will continue as we grow, continue To move away and start to see the results start to fall to the bottom line. In regards to further investment, I mean, I think One way to look at it is the run rate that we have will continue. This is a model where we think that we will forever Always the building technology, it's not one of those type of deals where you have an IT team build a system and then go do something else. We're always iterating and always trying to build out continual technology within this operating model and so that's I don't think that you're going to see that run rate necessarily go up all that much. There might be some small incremental increases, but for the most part, we're at a healthy run rate where We feel comfortable with the investment that's in place and that investment will continue. Speaker 300:55:47But again, that inflection point versus that investment occurred in Q3 And we're going to be at a point as we move forward that the growth will benefit the bottom line as we move forward. Speaker 1200:56:01Okay. That's helpful. So it doesn't sound like much change on the cost side. It's all about spreading that tractor count additions above that fixed cost base now? Speaker 300:56:09Yes, that's where we're at. I mean, like I said, there's always going to be there could be some small incremental increases as Cameron Starts to look at maybe I've got to add a developer here and there, but nothing that's going to really move the needle on a dramatic basis. Our cost is what our cost is at this point And now we just got to outrun it from a growth perspective. Speaker 1200:56:30Helpful. I appreciate it. Speaker 700:56:32Thanks, Felix. Speaker 1000:56:34Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further or closing comments. Speaker 300:56:41All right. Well, thank you. Hey, really apologize for those technical issues, not exactly sure what happened. But I appreciate everybody sticking through that. That was a little bizarre, but we got through it. Speaker 300:56:52So anyway, I look forward to talking more about this next quarter. Again, just to recap, as far as we're concerned, we're on pace. We're happy, maybe not happy necessarily with The results maybe from an earnings perspective, but we're happy with where we are in our strategy around our growth in variant. We're happy around our Strategy around our growth in Express Technologies, our brokerage division and we're also happy about where our rates are now in their dedicated division. A little painful on the process, maybe getting this to the point where we are today, but we feel very comfortable where we are and feel very confident about the next couple of quarters as we move forward. Speaker 300:57:32So appreciate everybody listening to the call and we'll do it again in 90 days. Thanks so much. Speaker 1200:57:38Thank you.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallU.S. Xpress Enterprises Q3 202100:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsQuarterly report(10-Q) U.S. Xpress Enterprises Earnings HeadlinesUS Xpress realigns network under Knight-SwiftJanuary 27, 2025 | finance.yahoo.comReasons for US failure in defeating the VietcongOctober 22, 2024 | bbc.co.ukThink NVDA’s run was epic? You ain’t seen nothin’ yetAsk most investors and they’ll probably tell you Nvidia is the undisputed AI stock of the decade. In 2023, it surged 239%. And in 2024, it soared another 171% on the year… But what if I told you there was a way to target those types of “peak Nvidia” profit opportunities in 24 hours or less?May 3, 2025 | Timothy Sykes (Ad)What is the US electoral college, and how does it work?October 11, 2024 | bbc.comUS election 2024: A really simple guide to the presidential voteSeptember 11, 2024 | bbc.co.ukTennis fans: Get lounge access and other US Open benefits through your credit cardAugust 29, 2024 | cnbc.comSee More U.S. Xpress Enterprises Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like U.S. Xpress Enterprises? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on U.S. Xpress Enterprises and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About U.S. Xpress EnterprisesU.S. Xpress Enterprises (NYSE:USX) operates as an asset-based truckload carrier primarily in the United States. It operates through two segments, Truckload and Brokerage. The Truckload segment offers over-the-road trucking and contract services. The Brokerage segment provides asset-light freight brokerage services, where loads are contracted to third-party carriers. The company offers customers a portfolio of services using its asset-based truckload fleet and third-party carriers through its asset-light freight brokerage network. As of December 31, 2022, its fleet consisted of approximately 7,200 tractors and 14,400 trailers, including 1,000 tractors provided by independent contractors. The company was founded in 1985 and is headquartered in Chattanooga, Tennessee.View U.S. Xpress Enterprises ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles Amazon Earnings: 2 Reasons to Love It, 1 Reason to Be CautiousMeta Takes A Bow With Q1 Earnings - Watch For Tariff Impact in Q2Palantir Earnings: 1 Bullish Signal and 1 Area of ConcernVisa Q2 Earnings Top Forecasts, Adds $30B Buyback PlanMicrosoft Crushes Earnings, What’s Next for MSFT Stock?Qualcomm's Earnings: 2 Reasons to Buy, 1 to Stay AwayAMD Stock Signals Strong Buy Ahead of Earnings Upcoming Earnings Palantir Technologies (5/5/2025)Vertex Pharmaceuticals (5/5/2025)Realty Income (5/5/2025)Williams Companies (5/5/2025)CRH (5/5/2025)Advanced Micro Devices (5/6/2025)American Electric Power (5/6/2025)Constellation Energy (5/6/2025)Marriott International (5/6/2025)Energy Transfer (5/6/2025) Get 30 Days of MarketBeat All Access for Free Sign up for MarketBeat All Access to gain access to MarketBeat's full suite of research tools. Start Your 30-Day Trial MarketBeat All Access Features Best-in-Class Portfolio Monitoring Get personalized stock ideas. Compare portfolio to indices. Check stock news, ratings, SEC filings, and more. Stock Ideas and Recommendations See daily stock ideas from top analysts. Receive short-term trading ideas from MarketBeat. Identify trending stocks on social media. Advanced Stock Screeners and Research Tools Use our seven stock screeners to find suitable stocks. Stay informed with MarketBeat's real-time news. Export data to Excel for personal analysis. Sign in to your free account to enjoy these benefits In-depth profiles and analysis for 20,000 public companies. Real-time analyst ratings, insider transactions, earnings data, and more. Our daily ratings and market update email newsletter. Sign in to your free account to enjoy all that MarketBeat has to offer. Sign In Create Account Your Email Address: Email Address Required Your Password: Password Required Log In or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google Forgot your password? Your Email Address: Please enter your email address. Please enter a valid email address Choose a Password: Please enter your password. Your password must be at least 8 characters long and contain at least 1 number, 1 letter, and 1 special character. Create My Account (Free) or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google By creating a free account, you agree to our terms of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the U. S. Xpress Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:17I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Garvey, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:26Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the U. S. Xpress Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. Eric Fuller, U. Speaker 100:00:34S. Press' President and CEO will lead our call today, followed by Eric Peterson, our CFO, who will discuss our financial results. Additionally, Joel Gard, President of Express Technologies and Cameron Randsell, President of Verint are here to answer questions. Our discussions today include forecasts and other information that are considered forward looking statements. While these statements reflect Our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Speaker 100:01:04These risk factors are described in U. S. Express' most recent 10 ks filed with the SEC and in the Form 10 Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2021, which is expected to be filed with the SEC in the next several days. We undertake no duty or obligation to update our forward looking statements. During today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. Speaker 100:01:30The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measure can be found in our earnings release. As a Speaker 200:01:46reminder, a replay of this call Speaker 100:01:47will be available on the Investors section of our website. We have also posted an updated supplemental presentation to accompany today's discussion, which is available on our website at investor.usxpress.com. We will be referencing portions of the supplement as a part of today's call. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Eric Fuller. Speaker 300:02:07Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. This afternoon, I will review our 3rd quarter results and provide an update on our digital transformation. On today's call, there are 5 main themes that I want to discuss. 1st and foremost, we sequentially grew our overall truck count in the quarter, which is a key inflection point 283 tractors. Our brokerage segment grew revenue 62% year over year, demonstrating its ability to provide expanded capacity solutions for our customers. Speaker 300:02:52We made tremendous progress repricing our dedicated portfolio in Q3 and expect a full quarter of higher rates in Q4 to provide improved margins. We remain committed to investing in Variant and Express Technologies to position our company for long term profitable growth as we focus on doubling revenue over the next 4 years. Turning to Variant, we continue to grow the tractor and Variant during the Q3, exiting Q3 with 12.83 tractors, which represents approximately 11% growth sequentially and we remain on track to exit 2021 with 1500 or more tractors The variant fleet, which would represent approximately 120% growth year over year. Tractor growth in our variant fleet Outpaced attrition in the remainder of our OTR fleet and I am pleased to report that our overall truck count grew sequentially, which was what we expected coming out of the Q2. As a reminder, we launched Veriant just under 2 years ago with 5 trucks and have grown the business to an annual revenue run rate of approximately $250,000,000 exiting Q3. Speaker 300:04:10We believe this is a remarkable accomplishment given the macro environment that we have been navigating over those 2 years. Since the end of the Q3, we have added close to 100 additional tractors to Verint. Importantly, We have added to our tractor count while maintaining our safety stats, which is a key part of the incremental operating margin improvement and variant compared to our legacy OTR fleet. We now expect to return to sequential total tractor growth as variance growth has outpaced the contraction in the remainder of our OTR fleet. Turning to dedicated. Speaker 300:04:46Last quarter, we discussed addressing price to value mismatches within our dedicated portfolio of business. And I am pleased to say that the vast majority of those mismatches have been addressed, which led to an increase in overall rates across the portfolio of 3% in the 3rd quarter. Our rate exiting Q3 was up closer to 7% sequentially And we expect to see that rate improvement benefit our operating income beginning in the Q4. These price increases were necessary to pay our professional drivers competitive wages to provide the service levels that our customers have come to expect from us. Looking ahead for this business, We expect truck count to hold steady during the Q4 of 2021 with modest truck growth in future years as we believe our growth opportunities lie in variant from a truckload perspective. Speaker 300:05:40We expect the operating margin in the business to improve steadily Long term, as we improve both the professional driver experience as well as our cost discipline in dedicated. Turning to our brokerage segment, Express Technologies grew revenue 62% year over year to approximately $91,000,000 More importantly, gross margin was up 4 50 basis points compared to the Q3 of 2020. In addition, The percentage of loads processed on our digital platform increased to 83% in the quarter. We are in the early innings of our transformation within our brokerage segment to establish a scalable and differentiated digital freight marketplace. We believe doing so not only creates a more resolute operational foundation for our entire business, but enables innovation into adjacent business as deeper engagement with an expanded network of shippers and carriers is realized. Speaker 300:06:42In pursuit of these growth initiatives, We will continue to prioritize responsible revenue and loan growth as we work to demonstrate our value proposition to our carrier and shipper partners. As we continue to build out our network density to help ensure broader operational resilience for U. S. Express and our partners, We continue to target growing this business at a roughly breakeven OR in the near term. With that, I would like to turn the call to Eric Peterson to discuss our financial results in more detail. Speaker 200:07:15Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. In the 3rd quarter, we generated operating 20. Excluding the impact of fuel surcharge, revenue was $451,800,000 in the quarter, an increase of 11.9% year over year driven by increases in both truckload and brokerage revenue. In our Over the Road division, Variant Optimizer is now prioritizing for yield, which is a combination of rate and utilization. This prioritization helped drive average revenue per tractor I'm really pleased to highlight the progress made in our dedicated division and increasing rates across the portfolio, which resulted And a 7.4% increase in rate year over year. Speaker 200:08:18This helps to increase average revenue per tractor per week to 4,340 An increase of 6.7% year over year. Dedicated's rate exiting the quarter was up approximately 7% compared to our 2nd quarter rate And it's important to keep in mind that the rate increases were back end loaded in the quarter, whereas we had a full 13 weeks of increased costs as we were already paying our impact on our truckload operating margin beginning in the 4th quarter. Turning to operating ratio, adjusted operating ratio deteriorated in to 97.8% compared to 94.1% in the Q3 of 2020. The deterioration in Our operating ratio in the Q3 is primarily the result of our conscious decision to build the foundation of a company that can double its revenue over the next 4 years and support a fleet much larger than our current fleet size. As a result, during the transition period of Building out this infrastructure ahead of the truck count growth, our fixed costs will temporarily be too high relative to our current volumes. Speaker 200:09:43As we continue to grow our variant fleet into the size of our infrastructure, we believe that our fixed costs will decline as a percentage of revenue and ultimately Q4 and the full year as well as reiterate a few other points. In terms of total truck count in the 4th quarter, we expect Modest sequential growth in overall truck count as the growth in variant has now surpassed the reduction in our remaining over the road We expect utilization to be flat sequentially as variant continues to optimize for yield rather than utilization alone. We expect truckload rates to be up 2% to 4% sequentially and modestly exceed anticipated cost inflation in the 4th quarter. We continue to expect a full year effective tax rate of 26% to 28% before any discrete items. We continue to expect net Capital expenditures of $130,000,000 to $150,000,000 for the full year, and we now expect interest expense to be approximately $15,000,000 As a reminder, we have an equity investment in an autonomous trucking company, which we mark Because it's not indicative of our operating performance. Speaker 200:11:08With that, I would like to turn it back to Eric Fuller for final comments. Speaker 300:11:12Thanks, Eric. Before we open the call for Q and A, I want to take a couple of minutes to discuss our outlook over the next few years, how we are measuring success And how we think you should evaluate our progress as we execute against our long term goal of doubling revenue over the next 4 years. 1st and foremost, While we are extremely excited about the course that we have charted for the company over the next several years and our progress towards it, we believe the trucking industry is moving closer to We believe it is only a matter of time before the venture capital that has been flowing into adjacent industries such as freight brokerage, Alternative fuels and driverless technologies make its way into traditional asset based trucking. Someone will solve the scalability issues that have been inherent in our industry since its inception, and we believe our focus on building a digitally enabled fleet, Speaker 400:12:07which is Speaker 300:12:07recruited, planned, dispatched and managed using artificial intelligence and digital platform is how to do it. Therefore, Our focus remains on investing in Variant and Express Technologies. Metrics wise, the most important metric to follow and gauge our As long as Verint continues to grow, we will continue to allocate our capital towards that business. Keep in mind Each tractor added to the fleet adds approximately $25,000 of annual incremental operating income compared to the legacy fleet. Next, we continue to add truck count to our variant fleet while keeping our safety stats in line with our long term expectations. Speaker 300:12:53Preventable accidents from 1,000,000,000 miles is a leading indicator, so fewer accidents today will benefit us more in future quarters as claims have a long tail. Turnover is extremely important to our ability to scale our business and improve profitability. We remain confident in our long term expectations for turnover in Verint, but expect that quarter to quarter it may swing particularly as the market for Professional drivers remains extremely competitive. As we prepare for more growth in 2022, Variant is focused on maintaining its driver experience, which is critical to achieving our longer term turnover expectations. Finally, On the metrics, pay attention to revenue per truck per week in variance. Speaker 300:13:41We are rate takers given the fragmentation in our industry, The variance optimizer is uniquely able to solve for how best to monetize the available freight in our network given the various constraints, including locations of trucks, Trailers, drivers, holiday schedules, etcetera. This is a combinatorial problem that generates Potential solution sets, which are orders of magnitude too many for humans to count, let alone calculate, Speaker 500:14:08which is why we Speaker 300:14:09are using algorithms to plan our loads instead of people. Looking ahead to 2022, we are focused on continuing to The company for long term success by increasing the truck count and variant and continuing to grow revenue and load count In Express Technology, we believe we have reached the tipping point where variance growth will outpace the contraction of the legacy OTR fleet and will result in sequential net total fleet growth over the coming quarters. And finally, as the last few weeks have shown, Variant continues to grow, which we believe will ultimately be the driver of improved financial results. With that operator, we are ready to take questions. Operator00:14:54At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question Our first question is from Ken Hoexter from Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:15:30Ken? Yes. Hello? Hey, Ken. Speaker 600:15:34Hey, Eric and Eric. How are you? Speaker 700:15:36I'm doing good. Speaker 600:15:38Good. Can you maybe just good afternoon. Can you talk a little bit about your move You noted raising driver pay at the beginning of the period, but yet you waited until later on to start countering With rate increases, we saw their carriers obviously a bit more aggressive to do that faster and especially in this environment to provide that capacity. So are you doing again, are you raising pay again? Should we expect another overhang given this environment or are just the new rates just catching up now? Speaker 800:16:12No. And there Speaker 300:16:12was a little bit of a catch up effect, Ken. I mean, look, we can we always go back and look at Our previous quarters and how we performed and that was an area where we admittedly did not get the rate That we needed in order to properly compensate our drivers. And so That was an area where we did end up giving some driver increases prior to getting some rate increases and we didn't get those rate increases as timely We would like, but we now feel like we are at a point from a rate perspective that we are comfortable. And while there are Small increases that go into effect, we should be maintaining that rate from here on out and shouldn't see additional cost In relation to that those rate improvements. Speaker 600:17:08So I'm sorry. So you said that there are still more small Driver pay increases or rate increases on the Speaker 300:17:15I mean, some marginal pay and there's always I mean, there's pay increases that happen. I mean, In this environment, it's happening in real time. But to say that there won't be any I don't think there'll be really any significant cost increases In that area and what we have in rate is sufficient and we will be able to maintain both the rate And the margins going forward into the next quarter. Speaker 600:17:42So into the next quarter, if you're now if these are back end weighted, should we be seeing Mid-90s ORM, and where do you go from a 98? It seems like you've followed around here through this year so far in a great rate environment. What does it take to now move out of that up to 90s? Speaker 300:18:01I mean, I from a dedicated perspective, we're very comfortable where we are from a rate perspective. I mean, we're there. It took us probably 2 quarters longer than we would like. So not necessarily thrilled that it took us longer, but we're there and we feel like we have the rates For the current environment in place, there's always going to Speaker 700:18:22be a little tweak in. Speaker 300:18:22There's a few accounts here and there that may get tweaked, but for the most part from a dedicated We're comfortable with where the rates are. Speaker 600:18:32Okay. I'm sorry. And did you want to hit on the OR Thoughts? Is this enough to get you moving out of that upper 90s? Or is this just kind of incremental? Speaker 300:18:41I think it's going to improve. You look at dedicated, it makes up about percent of our revenues or so. And the rest of the organization, it is about growth. So we're continuing to focus on Growth within our variant truck count and that's the key to our operating ratio improvement. That's the key to our earnings. Speaker 300:19:01And We still believe that we're on the right track. We believe in the story and our strategy. We think it's the right strategy. We prove it out almost on a daily basis in our modeling and we know that we're as long as that continues to grow and we continue to add to our variant truck count fleet, then we're going to be Exactly where we want to be in the future and it's and we feel really good about the next couple of years. Speaker 600:19:26One more if I may. Just on brokerage, I just want to understand how you don't post a gain in this quarter. I understand you were talking about still looking for growth, yet we've seen Other companies that are in the midst of massive growth, surprisingly post larger gains than they had ever anticipated just given the strength of the rate environment, Spot market, maybe you could just walk us through your thoughts on that? Speaker 300:19:48Yes, Ken, I'm going to let Joel Gard answer that one. Speaker 900:19:52Thanks. Joel here. Thanks I mean to be as straightforward as possible, I think that the biggest significant And here is that we continue to be in the investment space. We've seen similar improvement in our freight mix and gross margin The numbers for the quarter. So, on the future, yes, certainly a great environment right now that we also took But doing so with an eye towards where we're going over the long run. Speaker 600:20:34Great. Thanks for the insight guys. Appreciate it. Operator00:20:43Our next question is from Ravi Shanker from Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:20:49Hey, this is Christine McGarvey on for Ravi. How are you guys doing? Thanks for taking the question. Maybe I can follow-up on the OR question or ask it in a slightly The Varian truck count is clearly on track for 1500. That's only a couple 100 away now at this point, but the margin Kind of flow through has been a little bit elusive. Speaker 800:21:13So it might be helpful to kind of parse out the dedicated impact that you guys have kind of This quarter versus the fixed cost as a percentage dynamic that's happening there and maybe how we think about the target kind of beyond that 1500 and how you guys are thinking about the inflection beyond that? Speaker 300:21:34Hey, this is Eric Peterson. To answer Speaker 200:21:37your question, one point we wanted to make is that one, we're focused on the longer term. We're Right now, we're working on our landing pad, which means that our quarterly earnings not as focused On the next 90 days as we are is where we're headed. However, with that said, as far as the impact of these dedicated price increases, If you look at it on a sequential basis from the second to third quarter, we're up a couple percent, but we're up actually Close to 7% on our rate increases where we're entering the 4th quarter compared to where we were in the 2nd quarter. And so we think that we'll have some of that will Help us a number greater than 0 better than a 98 OR all things constant. If you're looking at from Variant as we go into the Q4. Speaker 200:22:27And in the Q3, we only grew our Variant truck count By approximately 120 tractors and we had grown by 470 in the 1st 2 quarters. So we didn't really get a lot of benefit in the 3rd quarter from Variant Growth. Now with that said, just like our dedicated price increases that were back end weighted at the end of the Q3, so was our growth in Variant. And we've already grown at approximately 100 trucks since the end of the quarter. So that's something we're seeing during where I wish it was in a straight line left to right at the same float, but it's going to accelerate then it's going to slow down and accelerate. Speaker 200:23:05And I would say the last 5 weeks that variant truck count growth has started to accelerate. And as it becomes a higher percentage of our Our revenue, you're going to see it have a more meaningful impact on our overall earnings. Variant is still less than 20% of our overall earnings. We're extremely excited about it. And as it becomes a more meaningful percentage of our truckload revenues, we're going to see that the earnings improve On a sequential basis. Speaker 200:23:33We feel like we've been through that hard point where the tear down of our legacy over the road fleet It's now it's losing the race compared to the growth of variance. So we're growing more trucks on a quarterly basis in variance than what we're tearing down in legacy fleet. And we haven't shown sequential truck count in our over the road fleet since the Q2 of 2020. And so we think this is the inflection point quarter and We're excited about the good times to come, not just in the next couple of quarters, but over the next 2 years. Speaker 800:24:05Got it. That's very helpful to kind of think through. If I could ask A follow-up. As we think about heading into next year, an interesting comment in the deck, I think you noted you expect spot rates to actually Seed contract through next year, just to be curious on what's giving you confidence there and any early read on what we can expect for contract rates in 2022? Yes. Speaker 300:24:28I think we expect this environment to continue. We don't really see the environment changing all that much Where we're at today, if you look at macro conditions, we think demand will stay strong well into at least the first half of twenty twenty two, I'd really say the second half of twenty twenty two, but There's always a little bit of concern about some supply chain issues and whether we end up in a situation where COVID just goes away altogether. Do we end up where people over index a little bit more on experiences and things like that? But For the most part, we really don't see demand slowing down. And even when the consumer slows down, there is a significant restocking situation that has to On inventory level that probably leads to increased demand for another 6 to 9 months. Speaker 300:25:15So we don't really see demand really slowing down. On the supply side, And it is about equipment to an extent and that is creating further headwinds with trucks and trailers. But really it's all about drivers And we have a serious driver issue within the industry. We don't have enough drivers. We can't find enough people that want to do the job. Speaker 300:25:37We're continuing to See that struggle across the entire industry and I don't see any catalyst that would significantly change that. So I think until We were to get to what I truly believe would be a more of a global recession, I don't see anything that's going to significantly change that only changed that driver situation. And so that leads us to believe that this market is going to stay strong. So in regards to rates, Spot rates are going to stay robust, probably a healthy premium, maybe not as big a premium as what we saw Last year, on a percentage basis, but still a fairly healthy premium relative to contract rates for the majority, if not the entire year next year. On the contract side, we anticipate being in that high single digits, so in that 5% to 10% range on contract. Speaker 300:26:33We still think there's been some pretty significant cost creep, both from the driver pay, Equipment, other things that have occurred this year and so we think that it's really necessary and also given the market conditions that we see a 5% to 10% rate Increase on contract for, 2022. Speaker 800:26:52Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Really helpful. Thank you for the time. Speaker 300:26:55Yes. Thank Speaker 700:27:01you. Speaker 300:27:34Okay. Hey, Scott, I don't know what happened to our operator. Are you there? If so, I think you can ask a question. Operator? Speaker 300:28:01Hello. I apologize. I think we've lost our operator for a second. So This has never happened before, but and I don't know if there's anybody there that Scott Group, you are in the queue for the next question. If you're there, then we can go ahead and move forward. Speaker 300:28:19But I don't know if the system allows you to talk or not. All right. Hold with this real quick because this is we're trying to figure out it looks like we've lost our operator. And Those in the queue are not able to answer questions at this time. So we're still kind of holding Well, I guess, I'm trying to think of other questions that or other items that we could talk about. Speaker 300:29:21I think One thing that I would like to mention is the our plan around variant is on track. We still like we said in the In the prepared remarks that we still believe we're going to be over 1500 trucks by the end of the year, we are on pace for that. While we did have a little A slowdown in Q3 related to a few items. So there were some macro conditions, obviously, this driver situation has gotten progressively worse. And So that did create a little bit of a slowdown in our growth. Speaker 300:29:55Since the end of the quarter, we have added nearly 100 drivers to Variant. And so if you look at over 3 weeks timeframe, we've added nearly 100 trucks. So we're on a run rate right now of adding 30 net And over the last say 3 to 4 weeks, we think that absent holidays, we can continue something in that range hopefully. And so that should give us a pretty hopefully over 1500, we believe over 1500 trucks by the end of the year and also put us On a trajectory going into Q1, where we think we will continue the growth in variant well for really for the entire Balance of the year in 2022. So, our strategy is in line. Speaker 300:30:41We still think we're on the right path and that things are moving forward The way we have anticipated and hoped. We also there's been questions I know about Express Technologies and our brokerage division and as Joel mentioned, we're on pace there as well. We are in an investment phase. We're continuing to invest in our business, Invest in our growth and we're focused on that 3 year build and we're moving in the right direction. I got a couple of questions. Speaker 300:31:16Go ahead. Speaker 1000:31:17This is Robert. We do apologize for the technical Our next question is coming from Scott Group from Wolfe Research. Your line is now live. Speaker 700:31:25Hey guys, can you hear me now? Speaker 300:31:27Yes, we got you, Scott. Sorry about that. Speaker 700:31:29Okay, cool. All right. Speaker 300:31:31So the I Speaker 700:31:34know you talked a few times about Just sequential margin improvement. Can you just help maybe just put some expectations around it? Is it 100 basis points, More or less, I'm just not sure how to think about it. Speaker 200:31:47Yes. I mean, if you're looking at the dedicated with those rate increases Yes, heading up, there's at 40%, all things constant that could give us 100 basis points to 200 basis points improvement from those rate increases Alone. And then I think in your model, it's the volume play with those variant tractors. It's going to come down to that ending count And where that runs. And Scott, I hear you. Speaker 200:32:10It's just it's tough for me to give guidance on these 90 day scorecards As a management team, we're really focused on this landing pad of what we're doing to scale. Right now, our fixed cost as a percentage of revenue, as you know, they're They're probably 700 plus basis points too high because we have this foundation that we can really grow on. So on a sequential basis With this transformation, we'll have quarters that are perceived on people looking at this 90 day scorecard More disappointing than others, but our scorecard that we're focused on is growing the variant truck count, keeping the safety stats and keeping the driver experience One that will have relatively low turnover, significantly lower turnover than the industry average and that's our focus and the numbers in the longer term are going to more than take care of themselves. Speaker 700:33:01Okay. Are we still seeing that big delta between utilization on variant Versus legacy trucks, just because the mix is obviously going more and more to variant, but the utilization is not It's still going down. Speaker 300:33:19Yes. We're really measuring the revenue per truck per week and so we're continuing to see that delta as it to revenue per truck per week as we optimize for margin. And so we feel we're still Speaker 1000:33:32Moving Speaker 300:33:33in the right direction in regards to our older legacy fleet and our variant Truck fleet, like I said, in regards to the revenue per truck. So that's the item that we're really watching. Obviously, utilization is a component of that, but also being able to optimize the right freight that's priced in the right manner is going to Speaker 900:33:55give us the best result and that's Speaker 300:33:56where we're optimizing today for. Okay. The other truck Speaker 700:34:00Okay. The other trucking revenue was up a lot from last year's Q2. Any color on Speaker 200:34:16Visual components of that revenue, but, Scott, so but yes, it's just miscellaneous revenues that are increasing not necessarily related to direct truckload operations. Speaker 300:34:30Is that a Does this Speaker 700:34:31new run rate continue? I'm not even sure what's in this segment. Speaker 200:34:36Yes, that run rate will continue. And As an overall percentage to our those revenues are not in our truckload stats, our revenue per tractor per week. It's more miscellaneous revenue. What's in that bucket Lease revenue from our independent contractor program and those types of revenues. But yes, I think you can expect that run rate to continue. Speaker 700:34:57Okay. And then last thing, the just on the driver side. So it sounds like you've seen things pick up a little bit in the last few weeks. Do you think that there's some improvement in driver market? And then I'll just marry it with your thoughts on Speaker 300:35:13Any kind of vaccine mandate and how you may Operator00:35:16or may not respond Speaker 300:35:17to that? Yes. So on the first part of the question, I don't think the market's gotten better. I mean, we talked to a lot of peers, especially private peers and binge Mark with a lot of people and I'm hearing that the environment has not gotten better. Now I believe we have done some things In our individual business that is improving the driver hiring situation and also improving some of our attrition issues. Speaker 300:35:47So we've put together some plans and some processes in place that we think are helping us and that's the reason we're seeing growth. But I don't think that this is somehow a market condition where things are loosened up because we're not hearing that from others. In regards to the vaccine mandate, we are waiting on the OSHA ruling. I keep hearing that it's imminent at some point over the next week or so. We are anticipating that not being something we want to see. Speaker 300:36:17We would love to see truck drivers have a carve out. I know that Canada had a vaccine mandate and I believe truck drivers were carved out, but I do not get the feeling that Drivers are going to be carved out of this mandate. So we're waiting and anticipating if the mandate goes out the way we suspect, Yes, we're concerned. I think there's a fair amount of drivers that are kind of By the nature of kind of their personality and the reason they migrate to this industry in a way is they don't necessarily want to be Told what to do and this is one of those items. And so I think you're going to see a pretty significant pushback from the driver population. Speaker 300:37:02We're at the point of trying to figure out, okay, so if we have to test on a weekly basis, what are we going to do? What's the process? What Kind of how are we going to set that up? And at this point, I would tell you, Scott, I don't know the answer, but we're working on it. But it's something we're definitely Nervous about, I guess, it's probably a fair way to put it. Speaker 300:37:23I think that we will be able to come up with a way in order to deal with it and handle it, but it Couldn't have a pretty large impact on the driver population as we go forward. Speaker 700:37:34And then maybe just last thing real quick. How are you what are you hearing, if anything, About hours of service given supply chain and what the government is trying to do right now. Speaker 300:37:44Yes, there's been a little bit of talk about Some relaxation of hours of service or even relaxation of driver requirements for people coming into the industry. And I know that I believe the Secretary of Transportation has made a couple of comments in that regard. I'm not aware of anything At this point, that's either been said or decided. So at this point, it's been just dialogue from the Secretary and that's really all we've heard. And I don't believe even ATA really has anything at this point of note. Speaker 300:38:20And I think everybody's waiting to see if there is something that Does either get announced or go into effect. Okay. Speaker 700:38:27Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:38:29Thanks, Scott. Thank you. Speaker 1000:38:31Our next question today is coming from Jack Atkins from Stephens. Your line is now live. Speaker 500:38:35Okay, great. Thanks and good afternoon. Speaker 300:38:38Good afternoon, Jack. Speaker 500:38:39So I guess my first Question is amount revenue per truck per week in the OTR segment. When I look at Sort of the 2 year stack there, I think it's up 2% Q3 versus 3Q 2019, just to kind of take the volatility of the last year out. We've seen other folks report sort of a 2 year stack growth rate in terms of revenue per truck per week in the teens, mid teens. Can you walk us through maybe some of the puts and takes why you guys aren't maybe seeing that type of improvement there on a 2 year Does it having to do with the transition or just trying to understand why we're not seeing a little more rate benefit there? I understand utilization of miles per Speaker 200:39:26Yes, Jack, this is Eric Peterson. Fair question. I think if you look at the overall transformation Of our over the road division today versus where it was 2 years ago, I think we need to remember that we're no longer feeding that division with student drivers. When you're feeding that division with student drivers, you get the organic creation of a team truck that's going to run more miles on a weekly basis. So what it's doing for Utility is it's making those comps look like there's not as much improvement of what's going on in the industry and you're exactly right. Speaker 200:39:57But part of the answer is that we have significantly fewer teams and we don't have students in the trough where you have a super solo or team asset Generating more miles on a weekly basis. Number 2 is, it's intentional and by design as it relates our variant fleet, if you look at our variant fleet in the optimizer, what it's doing now is it's not saying, hey, go get the most miles you can on this truck this week. It's saying, hey, how can we create the best yield? And that's a combination of both the miles and the rate. And so I think when Doing some of those comparisons, you'll probably see that as far as our rate per mile, where this shows up quantitative instead of my qualitative answer, You'll see that our rate per mile is probably outperforming on 2 year increases on what they've done over 24 months and to offset spend the utility. Speaker 300:40:47But keep in mind too, we've had our net truck count, seated component has come down Over the last year and we are in the process of building and growing that back. And so that's having an effect on that number as Speaker 500:41:05Okay. Got it. Got it. And I guess maybe a follow-up question for Joel on the brokerage side I mean, do you talk about investing for growth there, keeping the business at sort of a 100 OR breakeven level as you're doing Well, what do you mean exactly when you say invest for growth? I mean, is that more volume? Speaker 500:41:28Is that take I'm just trying to understand exactly what that means because I'm a little bit I would have expected, I guess, in a vest for growth Phase with a breakeven ORs, we'd have faster volume growth than we saw in the quarter. Can you kind of walk us through what you mean by that and how that's going to look over the next, Call it couple of years as you scale that business. Speaker 900:41:49Sure. Yes. A couple of things, Jack. I think the biggest thing to start with is Sort of acknowledging some of the historical context that the brokerage business has been maturing from. In a historical sense, it hasn't always been Meeting competency for the business and so the underlying operating model had some work to do with it in order Kind of really get it fit for scale, right? Speaker 900:42:14So some of the investment today has been in things like a transition in the portfolio, refactoring things like freight mix, Kind of bringing some level of health to the underlying fundamentals of the operating model so that we had a better foundation to As we think about proactive investment on a go forward basis, and this is really what's been layered in over the last 3 or 4 quarters, A lot of that is in technology and the enhancement or growth of the dedicated technology team building proprietary Products for our shippers, carriers and employees, as well as enhancements to our headcount within our sales and operations group to be able to So those are really kind of the high notes, right? So we've been going through A level of transformation improvement and just sort of setting up the underlying operating model for scale. And then as that foundation started to take root over the last year, year and a half, We've been sort of proactive in getting out in front of doing the things from an investment perspective that we believe will yield Additional volume in future quarters. So that volume comp is really a function of Austin trading some unhealthy business over the course of the last few quarters, and we're now in a place where the foundation is ready to be, winning into. Speaker 500:43:37Okay. Okay. That's great to hear. And I guess as you think about the next couple of years and scaling that business, we've seen some other Truckload carriers with brokerage subsidiaries really sort of scale their power only or drop and hook Operations over the last 18 months, how are you thinking about that opportunity for your brokerage Speaker 900:44:07Yes. Well, truthfully, I think it's the nexus to being able to drive additional selectivity for Variants, it's absolutely on our radar. I think one of the things that we don't often give ourselves credit for enough Externally is the extent of power only business that our brokerage segment is supporting today. It's not The overwhelming majority, but depending on where we are seasonally, it can make up anywhere between 15% 30% of our daily volume. So there's a competency there that we're I'm actively seeking to enhance. Speaker 900:44:39We've hired some talent from outside of our company, but from within the industry to help scale a power only product in a formal sense and build upon some of the tribal knowledge we have already, but Absolutely a huge part of our roadmap on a go forward basis. Speaker 500:44:57Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess last question and I'll turn it over. But just back to, Eric, Your comments on the vaccine mandate. Obviously, a lot of unknowns about that and sort of the ramifications Good. Speaker 500:45:10That could have on the broader truckload market. I mean, how do you think it would affect U. S. Express' business specifically? I mean, In terms of your drivers, your driver pool, would you expect some attrition there? Speaker 500:45:24Any sort of color you can add? I know it's hard to speak for the broader industry, but how do you think it would impact U. S. Express in particular? Speaker 300:45:32Well, I think there is Some concerns from a number of people that I've talked to that the industry could lose 5 Maybe as much as 8% to 10% of the driver population that may choose to go elsewhere, meaning leave the industry, Because there's not enough small carriers with excess capacity that could absorb those that may leave The larger carriers, if that were to occur and there were some steadfast drivers that would not get vaccinated and There is not a sufficient testing structure that could accommodate them or they may not even want to get tested. And so a fallout of 5% to 10 Our driver pool would affect everybody. I think that is an area that would be very difficult To operate in, it's something that at this point we're prepared to do and We're working on ways to try to mitigate some of that driver attrition that could occur, but it is an area of concern and I think it could be Fairly catastrophic. If we were to lose even 5% of the drivers, that we have within the industry today at the levels that we're already at, I don't know how we absorb that. Speaker 500:46:54Yes, that would be really tough. Okay, that's really helpful. Thanks so much for the time guys. Speaker 300:46:59Thanks. Speaker 1000:47:01Thanks. The next question today is coming from Brian Ossenbeck from JPMorgan. Your line is now live. Speaker 400:47:07Hey, good evening. Thanks for taking the question here. Maybe just one more on the vaccine mandate to wrap it up hopefully. Given we just said about the potential catastrophic Impact potentially in the industry. I guess I'm surprised why there isn't a bigger push or traction to get some sort As exemption, you mentioned the one in Canada. Speaker 400:47:27I think the truckers were exempt from the mask mandate that came out earlier. So you have but you're seeing Derek Peterson pretty confident that there isn't something in the works to hope for. So maybe you can just elaborate on that, please. Speaker 300:47:46Yes. No, I've been very involved in conversations with ATA and with others. Trust me, there is a lot going on behind the scenes to say that there isn't a push to try to get drivers carved out is not the case. I mean, ATA is very involved. There are many others that are very involved in trying to get Some sort of a carve out or concessions for drivers. Speaker 300:48:11Unfortunately, that at this point It's just not feeling all that likely. And so now we're having to figure out how to deal with it, right? So it's We could be surprised that things could come out tomorrow and they could have drivers carved out, we would all be fine. But we're at the point where we were just not real Confident of that with everything that we're hearing back channel and but there's no lack of trying to make that happen. And with supply chain being top of mind both from an economic standpoint and a political standpoint. Speaker 300:48:46It does give me a little bit of hope that it could occur, but I would say my confidence It's fairly low given just some of the back channel conversations and other things that I'm hearing. So we're preparing for a mandate that Could if go into effect, could have some pretty seismic results on the driver population and we're getting ahead of it and starting to have conversation and Speaker 400:49:14Yes. So I was wondering if the supply chain top of mind with all the push there that this would kind of go against Different goal of the administration. Obviously, there's a lot going on, but I know the issues you've been pushing, I'm just surprised you Had as much traction or felt like you've had as much traction? Okay. Just a quick follow-up on Variant in general. Speaker 400:49:36Maybe you can just talk about acquisition costs of the drivers in this environment, maybe some of the turnover. And if you can elaborate just what happened in the last quarter, because it did look like you're making some pretty good progress quarter over quarter and things slowed down and If we accelerate it, so I'm pleased you can elaborate on that. Speaker 300:49:54Yes, Brian. I'll have Cameron answer that if that's all right. Speaker 1100:49:58Hey, this is Cameron. Thanks for the question. You're absolutely right to point out that we definitely saw a small And turnover quarter over quarter. As we talked about during the earlier remarks, we have grown variant really As a startup in Atlanta from essentially the last 2 years from $0 in revenue to I'll be trying to exit the year at about $300,000,000 on a Forward looking revenue run rate. So as you can imagine, when you add near 1400 drivers to the fleet in a short period of We absolutely experienced some growing pains that eroded the driver experience. Speaker 1100:50:36What I'm really happy to report is that our leadership team I identified a lot of these problems, worked tirelessly throughout Q2 and Q3 to resolve them. And I think that's what you're seeing is our accelerated growth in October where we've added Essentially, almost the same number of drivers as we had in the entire quarter. So I feel like a lot of those are behind us. We are watching it very, very closely, but We feel very confident in the continued growth of the driver base now. Speaker 400:51:03Okay. And any comments on Acquisition costs as you find the right channels to get these folks and to retain them? Speaker 1100:51:12Sure. So we have 2 primary channels We recruit Gyroshan and they have very different acquisition costs. 1 is entirely variabilized and I think it's very unique to the model we To Verint, we call it the Verint Ambassador model. So again, that's a variableized model where we have evangelized many of our drivers to go out and recruit new drivers. That comes at a far lower acquisition cost. Speaker 1100:51:33And we've hired we launched that program a little over a year ago. This week, we just hired our 300 drivers through it, so we're seeing some tremendous acceleration. It took us about 9 months to figure out how to get the first 100 drivers into that program, and We've hired our 300 now and we did that in about 2.5 months. So we're seeing some acceleration there. And again, it's a variableized cost model And it's far less than the traditional kind of programmatic media spend that U. Speaker 1100:51:59S. Express and the broader industry really rely on to bring in the lion's share of their drivers. Speaker 400:52:06Okay. And then last quick question, if you can sticking with Verint, if you can just tell us how you're Benchmarking and managing that through some of these growing pains. I saw commentary in the slide deck. I think it's improved 100 basis points OR Quarter over quarter, we've seen the impact of the optimizer, but how do you benchmark and compare that And tweak those as you continue to scale the fleet. What are you measuring internally that we don't see externally? Speaker 200:52:34Yes. As far as that's really tracking that optimizer. There's all of those levers and it's something where we're going to get smarter and smarter on As we continue forward, we were able to increase our overall rate on the variant tractors in the 3rd quarter compared to the 2nd by right over 3%. And that cost us about 7% utilization. But when you look at the net result with 2 thirds variable and 1 third fixed cost, you take That 7% loss in utility and you lose a third of that, the earnings to offset that rate increase, the combination of those 2 was 100 basis Point, you have better results in what I would say is a comparable market. Speaker 200:53:14And so I think that's more of I always talk about macro issues and mirror issues. And to me that's more of a mere accomplishment, something that we did on our own in a consistent macro environment. Speaker 400:53:29Okay. Thank you for the time. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:53:31Thanks, Brian. Speaker 1000:53:33Thanks. Our next question is coming from Felix Bausch from Raymond James. Your line is now live. Speaker 1200:53:38Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Good afternoon. Speaker 900:53:42Hey, I just have Speaker 1000:53:43a I just have a Speaker 1200:53:44big picture one. It's the only one. But I really want to better understand how we should think about some of these tech investments around Varian going forward. It seems like last quarter, we might have been close to an inflection point, meaning variant outgrowing its fixed cost base. Do you still think that is the case? Speaker 1200:54:02And just how should we think about these tech investments heading maybe into 2022 as you continue to refine the model there? Speaker 300:54:08Yes. I think From an inflection point, we're there. It's just we've got to continue that growth, right? And Q3 was a little bit of a difficult growth environment for us for A number of reasons, mostly macro and, like I said, I think we've solved that and figured it out, but it created some issues and the problem was We kind of stalled that truck count out to an extent right on top of that inflection point. And so we didn't get necessarily the benefit that we had hoped for Had we grown a few more 100 trucks, we are now growing and we feel like as we continue to grow, we will further out Distance ourselves from that inflection point, which we still think occurred in Q3. Speaker 300:54:53And so we will continue as we grow, continue To move away and start to see the results start to fall to the bottom line. In regards to further investment, I mean, I think One way to look at it is the run rate that we have will continue. This is a model where we think that we will forever Always the building technology, it's not one of those type of deals where you have an IT team build a system and then go do something else. We're always iterating and always trying to build out continual technology within this operating model and so that's I don't think that you're going to see that run rate necessarily go up all that much. There might be some small incremental increases, but for the most part, we're at a healthy run rate where We feel comfortable with the investment that's in place and that investment will continue. Speaker 300:55:47But again, that inflection point versus that investment occurred in Q3 And we're going to be at a point as we move forward that the growth will benefit the bottom line as we move forward. Speaker 1200:56:01Okay. That's helpful. So it doesn't sound like much change on the cost side. It's all about spreading that tractor count additions above that fixed cost base now? Speaker 300:56:09Yes, that's where we're at. I mean, like I said, there's always going to be there could be some small incremental increases as Cameron Starts to look at maybe I've got to add a developer here and there, but nothing that's going to really move the needle on a dramatic basis. Our cost is what our cost is at this point And now we just got to outrun it from a growth perspective. Speaker 1200:56:30Helpful. I appreciate it. Speaker 700:56:32Thanks, Felix. Speaker 1000:56:34Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further or closing comments. Speaker 300:56:41All right. Well, thank you. Hey, really apologize for those technical issues, not exactly sure what happened. But I appreciate everybody sticking through that. That was a little bizarre, but we got through it. Speaker 300:56:52So anyway, I look forward to talking more about this next quarter. Again, just to recap, as far as we're concerned, we're on pace. We're happy, maybe not happy necessarily with The results maybe from an earnings perspective, but we're happy with where we are in our strategy around our growth in variant. We're happy around our Strategy around our growth in Express Technologies, our brokerage division and we're also happy about where our rates are now in their dedicated division. A little painful on the process, maybe getting this to the point where we are today, but we feel very comfortable where we are and feel very confident about the next couple of quarters as we move forward. Speaker 300:57:32So appreciate everybody listening to the call and we'll do it again in 90 days. Thanks so much. Speaker 1200:57:38Thank you.Read morePowered by