NASDAQ:STRR Star Equity Q1 2022 Earnings Report $11.23 +0.12 (+1.08%) Closing price 10/13/2025 03:57 PM EasternExtended Trading$11.20 -0.03 (-0.22%) As of 10/13/2025 04:47 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Star Equity EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.35Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AStar Equity Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$22.35 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AStar Equity Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2022Date6/3/2022TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateN/AConference Call TimeN/AUpcoming EarningsStar Equity's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, November 18, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Star Equity Q1 2022 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 22, 2022 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Star Equity delivered 12% consolidated revenue growth in Q1 2022, with Healthcare rev +0.8% and a 4-ppt gross margin increase to 23.7%, while Construction rev jumped 28.6% with substantial margin gains. Positive Sentiment: Completed a $14.3 m equity offering and ended Q1 with $15 m cash against $13.3 m debt, positioning the company to fund high-return internal projects and potential acquisitions. Negative Sentiment: SG&A rose 34.3% year-over-year to 27.1% of revenues, driven by increased headcount, outside services and a one-time ~$0.9 m litigation cost. Neutral Sentiment: Net loss from continuing operations widened to $3.7 m, but non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA turned positive at $0.1 m in Q1 versus a $0.9 m adjusted EBITDA loss a year ago. Positive Sentiment: The Construction division will kick off a record $9 m university dormitory project in Q2 and reports a record backlog with a robust sales pipeline. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallStar Equity Q1 202200:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Star Equity Holdings Incorporated First Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. Please be advised that discussions on today's call may include forward looking statements. Such forward looking statements involve certain risks uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. Please refer to Star Equity's most recent 10 ks and 10 Q filings for a more complete description of risk factors that could affect those projections and assumptions. The company assumes no obligations to update forward looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Operator00:00:40Please also note that on this call, management will reference non GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share, which are all financial measures not recognized under U. S. GAAP. As required by SEC rules and regulations, these non GAAP financial measures are reconciled to their most comparable GAAP financial measures and our earnings release issued this morning. If you did not receive a copy of the earnings release and would like one after the call, please contact Star Equity at 2034899500 Auris Investor Relations representative, Lina Caddy at The Equity Group at 212-836-9611. Operator00:01:29Also, this call is being broadcast live over the Internet and may be accessed at Star Equity's website via www.starequity.com. Shortly after the call, a replay will also be available on the company's website. It is now my pleasure to introduce Jeff Eberwein, Executive Chairman Speaker 100:01:55thank you all for joining us today for our Q1 2022 results conference call. On the call with me today are Chief Executive Officer, Rick Coleman and Chief Financial Officer, David Noble. In the Q1 of 2022, we reported improved financial and operating performance with a 12% increase in revenues and an improvement in our margins. Our Healthcare division grew revenue by 0.8% versus the prior year quarter and gross margin improved by 4 percentage points to 23.7 percent. Our Construction division grew revenue by 28.6% due to large commercial projects at Edge Builder and pricing increases that we implemented to mitigate the impact of higher raw material costs. Speaker 100:02:39Gross margin improved substantially due to increased pricing, improved operations and commodity price mitigation. We continue to make progress toward our goal of achieving and maintaining a gross margin over 20% for our Construction division. With the completion of our January 2022 equity offering for gross proceeds of $14,300,000 We're now well positioned to fund high return internal growth investments and to pursue acquisitions, which could be either bolt ons for our healthcare or construction divisions or entry into new business sectors. With that, I'll turn it over to our CEO, Rick Lohman. Rick, please go ahead. Speaker 200:03:22Thanks, Jeff. In the Q1, our Healthcare division revenue increased by 0.8% over the same period last year to $13,400,000 The increase was driven primarily by the mix of products sold in the quarter, including higher radiopharmaceuticals contract revenue and a more favorable mix of higher profit cameras. Customer, patient and employee availability were also positive contributing factors as our business continues to recover from the COVID-nineteen pandemic. These positive drivers were partially offset by a decrease in total cameras sold as well as fewer total scanning days. Gross profit for the quarter increased by 22.2% and gross profit margin increased by 4.2 percentage points over the same period last year, also due to increased percentage of higher margin products sold. Speaker 200:04:15Now I will turn the call over to Dave Noble, our CFO, He will review the results of our construction division and provide additional Q1 financial highlights. Dave, please go ahead. Speaker 300:04:28Thanks, Rick. Let me first touch upon the construction division. Q1 2022 construction revenue and gross margin percentage were 11 point $6,000,000 13.6 percent, respectively. This compares to $9,000,000 and 6.0 percent in the prior year Q1. The increase in revenues for the construction division was driven by large commercial projects at our Edge Builder business, which more than set a small $600,000 decrease in revenues for our KBS business really based on revenue timing. Speaker 300:05:00The KBS miss, as I mentioned, was due to revenue timing, but we're in the midst of executing a very large contract for $9,000,000 to build dormitories during Q2. Together, construction revenue accounted 46.4 percent of Star Equity's consolidated revenues in the Q1. The increase in gross margin percentage was due to an increase in revenue during the period, as well as better mitigation of materials risk price risk. We have also significantly increased pricing levels on our projects to offset higher input costs in both the residential and commercial projects. Our backlog and sales pipeline remain at record levels. Speaker 300:05:40Now let's turn on to Star Equity Holdings. On a consolidated basis, SG and A increased by 34.3% in Q1, 2002 versus Q1 last year. While this was due in part to increased headcount and outside services, one time litigation costs on the healthcare side was also a big factor. SG and A as a percentage of revenue increased in Q1 to 27.1 percent versus 22.6% in Q1 2021. Moving on to bottom line results for Star Equity for the Q1 of 2022. Speaker 300:06:15We had a net loss from continuing operations of $3,700,000 compared to a net loss from continuing operations of $600,000 in the Q1 of 2021. Non GAAP adjusted net loss from continuing operations in the Q1 of 2022 was $700,000 This compares to an adjusted net loss of $1,700,000 in the Q1 of 2021. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA increased to a positive $100,000 for the quarter of 2022 compared to a negative $900,000 in the Q1 of 2021. This improvement was due to improvements across the company's operations Leading to increased gross profit at both the company's healthcare and construction divisions. For the Q1 of 2022, we registered an operating cash As of March 31, 2022, our balance sheet and liquidity were strong. Speaker 300:07:14The outstanding balance on our credit facilities was 13,300,000 With $15,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, our overall net debt position was a negative $1,700,000 at the end of the first Now I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:07:31Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Our first questions come from the line of Theodore O'Neill with Litchfield Hills Research. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 400:08:05Thanks very much. On the KBS business being down in the quarter, you're saying this is just is a timing issue and that should rebound in Q2. Is that what you were saying? Speaker 300:08:17Yes. We recognized some revenues on our project late last year that continued into this year. But as I mentioned, the 2nd quarter, we're executing a $9,000,000 project. So There's lumpiness in revenues, but it's not due to any slowdown in business. Our pipeline is strong and our Production schedule is full. Speaker 400:08:41Okay. And on the SG and A, since there's almost 9 it looks like, If I got this right, dollars 900,000 almost $900,000 of litigation costs in the quarter. If I pull that out, are we going to see Q2 SG and A dropped by that amount? Speaker 300:09:01Yes, sure. I'll take that. Yes, that will not repeat itself in the Q2. I mean, there's some other increases in costs around some audit costs, etcetera. But yes, that's a fair statement. Speaker 400:09:13Thanks very much. Operator00:09:19Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Tate Sullivan with Maxim Group. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 500:09:26Hi, thank you. Good morning. Rick, you've been COO since the beginning of the year and CEO, starting last month, I know, but can you talk about your near term strategic goals for star versus long term and what you've seen so far as CEO that you can end point? Speaker 200:09:46Sure. Happy to do that. So from the I guess, since the time that I got it on board, the 1st month is, as usual, diving in and Catching up with what the rest of the team has already been doing. We're making great progress at KBS. I would say that Dave and the rest of the team during the last half of twenty twenty one really began positioning that business Going forward, our Healthcare business, of course, has been strong and continues to be that way. Speaker 200:10:19We're making some minor changes now to try to position ourselves for even stronger growth. And The Edge Builder portion of our construction business as well is strong and again looking at opportunities for growth there. Speaker 500:10:38Thank you, Rick. And then on KBS side, the $9,000,000 university project, and David, I think it was you Dave mentioned Record backlog and sales pipeline, do you hope to duplicate that kind of size of project? Is that still going to be an above average size project For you, is it better to have multiple projects that are much smaller? Can you talk about going forward the types of project concentration, please? Speaker 100:11:04Sure. I'll take that. Speaker 300:11:09You want to go, Rick? Or you want me to go? No, go ahead. Okay. Yes. Speaker 300:11:15So yes, that's clearly that's the largest single project that we've done in that business Ever. And I would say we evaluate projects based on the fundamentals in the ASPs. So it's not that we would shy away from doing anything that size, but Realistically, that's a large project and we've got a number of other commercial scale multi projects in the $2,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,000,000 range, which is probably more typical. But if it makes sense for us, we will do projects of that size as well. I would state that in the last 18 months, we have really focused on trying to win some of these multifamily projects. Speaker 300:11:52They do bring A little bit more standardization and hopefully higher margins and secure more production slots in our factory. So I would say that's a big one, but we would not shy away from doing others of that size, but typically they're going to be more in the half that size sort of range. Speaker 100:12:13Tate, this is Jeff. Really good question. One other thing about that is $9,000,000 is a total Project size, but it's 4 dorms. And so it in a way it's kind of 4 subsets of that project. I think an important thing with that is it gets us into a new vertical. Speaker 100:12:37It's a prestigious well known university that we're working with and It's a great case study for working with other colleges, universities on their student housing needs. And we all know that construction can be cyclical. We're a very small player in a big market and our thought is to have a lot of different end markets, a lot of There's a lot of different things that can be modular. And so the more diversity we have of projects, Clients end markets, the better. Speaker 500:13:25Thank you, Jeff. And one more for me. I mean, with everything going on in the just general market and interest rates and we always hear about higher costs And you addressed higher lumber costs, but with your customer conversations on the KBS side, have any projects been delayed or has funding come through Slower than you expected and any fundamental concerns in that end market or none at this point? Speaker 300:13:49We haven't seen that yet. I mean, it's one might expect that in an extreme condition, but our pipeline is still Very full, it's as high as it's as strong as it's ever been. The project for the university that we're doing, I mean, that's funded by their endowment, which is very large. So there's no real financing element to that. We just finished a workforce housing project on Martha's Vineyard that was about $2,000,000 in size That was funded by a 501c3 with some help from the Massachusetts government. Speaker 300:14:22I really don't see we have not seen that yet. Even in the private projects, we haven't seen any slowdown. Financing seems to be in place and the demand is there, I mean, at some point you might see that, but we just haven't seen that yet. Speaker 100:14:35And I would say to take a good question. Over a long period of time, we've transformed this business. It used to do a lot more Lower end residential and we've gone higher end, higher price point, more complicated projects. And like Dave was saying, it's a less price sensitive client, much more on quality and time to deliver. So I think that business Transition we've done over a period of years is Speaker 500:15:17helpful. Thank you. And one more for me, if I may. On Healthcare, sorry, 24% gross profit margins, I can you talk about, I mean, up from 21% Prior quarter, is it still should we look at that still being as a 20% gross profit margin business as well? Were there one time benefits So that margin in the quarter, can you expand on that margin, please? Speaker 100:15:41Yes, this is Jeff. Now there were no one time Benefits, I would say that the highest gross margin thing we do is selling cameras. The services business It is doesn't have the same margins that selling cameras does. And we usually Camera sales are highest in the 4th quarter and talking very low in Q1, But we had a pretty good Q1 in that department and so that was helpful. So I would be disappointed if the gross margin in this business is only 20%. Speaker 100:16:25We'd like it to be higher than that Over time, so call it low 20s. Speaker 500:16:33Okay. Thank you all. Operator00:16:48Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Jeff Everone for any closing comments. Speaker 100:16:56Thank you, operator. Before concluding this call, I'd like to note we're always available to take your call and discuss any Operator00:17:20Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Star Equity Holdings Incorporated First Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. Please be advised that discussions on today's call may include forward looking statements. Such forward looking statements involve certain risks uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. Please refer to Star Equity's most recent 10 ks and 10 Q filings for a more complete description of risk factors that could affect those projections and assumptions. The company assumes no obligations to update forward looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Operator00:00:40Please also note that on this call, management will reference non GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share, which are all financial measures not recognized under U. S. GAAP. As required by SEC rules and regulations, these non GAAP financial measures are reconciled to their most comparable GAAP financial measures and our earnings release issued this morning. If you did not receive a copy of the earnings release and would like one after the call, please contact Star Equity at 2034899500 Auris Investor Relations representative, Lina Caddy at The Equity Group at 212-836-9611. Operator00:01:29Also, this call is being broadcast live over the Internet and may be accessed at Star Equity's website via www.starequity.com. Shortly after the call, a replay will also be available on the company's website. It is now my pleasure to introduce Jeff Eberwein, Executive Chairman Speaker 100:01:55thank you all for joining us today for our Q1 2022 results conference call. On the call with me today are Chief Executive Officer, Rick Coleman and Chief Financial Officer, David Noble. In the Q1 of 2022, we reported improved financial and operating performance with a 12% increase in revenues and an improvement in our margins. Our Healthcare division grew revenue by 0.8% versus the prior year quarter and gross margin improved by 4 percentage points to 23.7 percent. Our Construction division grew revenue by 28.6% due to large commercial projects at Edge Builder and pricing increases that we implemented to mitigate the impact of higher raw material costs. Speaker 100:02:39Gross margin improved substantially due to increased pricing, improved operations and commodity price mitigation. We continue to make progress toward our goal of achieving and maintaining a gross margin over 20% for our Construction division. With the completion of our January 2022 equity offering for gross proceeds of $14,300,000 We're now well positioned to fund high return internal growth investments and to pursue acquisitions, which could be either bolt ons for our healthcare or construction divisions or entry into new business sectors. With that, I'll turn it over to our CEO, Rick Lohman. Rick, please go ahead. Speaker 200:03:22Thanks, Jeff. In the Q1, our Healthcare division revenue increased by 0.8% over the same period last year to $13,400,000 The increase was driven primarily by the mix of products sold in the quarter, including higher radiopharmaceuticals contract revenue and a more favorable mix of higher profit cameras. Customer, patient and employee availability were also positive contributing factors as our business continues to recover from the COVID-nineteen pandemic. These positive drivers were partially offset by a decrease in total cameras sold as well as fewer total scanning days. Gross profit for the quarter increased by 22.2% and gross profit margin increased by 4.2 percentage points over the same period last year, also due to increased percentage of higher margin products sold. Speaker 200:04:15Now I will turn the call over to Dave Noble, our CFO, He will review the results of our construction division and provide additional Q1 financial highlights. Dave, please go ahead. Speaker 300:04:28Thanks, Rick. Let me first touch upon the construction division. Q1 2022 construction revenue and gross margin percentage were 11 point $6,000,000 13.6 percent, respectively. This compares to $9,000,000 and 6.0 percent in the prior year Q1. The increase in revenues for the construction division was driven by large commercial projects at our Edge Builder business, which more than set a small $600,000 decrease in revenues for our KBS business really based on revenue timing. Speaker 300:05:00The KBS miss, as I mentioned, was due to revenue timing, but we're in the midst of executing a very large contract for $9,000,000 to build dormitories during Q2. Together, construction revenue accounted 46.4 percent of Star Equity's consolidated revenues in the Q1. The increase in gross margin percentage was due to an increase in revenue during the period, as well as better mitigation of materials risk price risk. We have also significantly increased pricing levels on our projects to offset higher input costs in both the residential and commercial projects. Our backlog and sales pipeline remain at record levels. Speaker 300:05:40Now let's turn on to Star Equity Holdings. On a consolidated basis, SG and A increased by 34.3% in Q1, 2002 versus Q1 last year. While this was due in part to increased headcount and outside services, one time litigation costs on the healthcare side was also a big factor. SG and A as a percentage of revenue increased in Q1 to 27.1 percent versus 22.6% in Q1 2021. Moving on to bottom line results for Star Equity for the Q1 of 2022. Speaker 300:06:15We had a net loss from continuing operations of $3,700,000 compared to a net loss from continuing operations of $600,000 in the Q1 of 2021. Non GAAP adjusted net loss from continuing operations in the Q1 of 2022 was $700,000 This compares to an adjusted net loss of $1,700,000 in the Q1 of 2021. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA increased to a positive $100,000 for the quarter of 2022 compared to a negative $900,000 in the Q1 of 2021. This improvement was due to improvements across the company's operations Leading to increased gross profit at both the company's healthcare and construction divisions. For the Q1 of 2022, we registered an operating cash As of March 31, 2022, our balance sheet and liquidity were strong. Speaker 300:07:14The outstanding balance on our credit facilities was 13,300,000 With $15,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, our overall net debt position was a negative $1,700,000 at the end of the first Now I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:07:31Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Our first questions come from the line of Theodore O'Neill with Litchfield Hills Research. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 400:08:05Thanks very much. On the KBS business being down in the quarter, you're saying this is just is a timing issue and that should rebound in Q2. Is that what you were saying? Speaker 300:08:17Yes. We recognized some revenues on our project late last year that continued into this year. But as I mentioned, the 2nd quarter, we're executing a $9,000,000 project. So There's lumpiness in revenues, but it's not due to any slowdown in business. Our pipeline is strong and our Production schedule is full. Speaker 400:08:41Okay. And on the SG and A, since there's almost 9 it looks like, If I got this right, dollars 900,000 almost $900,000 of litigation costs in the quarter. If I pull that out, are we going to see Q2 SG and A dropped by that amount? Speaker 300:09:01Yes, sure. I'll take that. Yes, that will not repeat itself in the Q2. I mean, there's some other increases in costs around some audit costs, etcetera. But yes, that's a fair statement. Speaker 400:09:13Thanks very much. Operator00:09:19Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Tate Sullivan with Maxim Group. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 500:09:26Hi, thank you. Good morning. Rick, you've been COO since the beginning of the year and CEO, starting last month, I know, but can you talk about your near term strategic goals for star versus long term and what you've seen so far as CEO that you can end point? Speaker 200:09:46Sure. Happy to do that. So from the I guess, since the time that I got it on board, the 1st month is, as usual, diving in and Catching up with what the rest of the team has already been doing. We're making great progress at KBS. I would say that Dave and the rest of the team during the last half of twenty twenty one really began positioning that business Going forward, our Healthcare business, of course, has been strong and continues to be that way. Speaker 200:10:19We're making some minor changes now to try to position ourselves for even stronger growth. And The Edge Builder portion of our construction business as well is strong and again looking at opportunities for growth there. Speaker 500:10:38Thank you, Rick. And then on KBS side, the $9,000,000 university project, and David, I think it was you Dave mentioned Record backlog and sales pipeline, do you hope to duplicate that kind of size of project? Is that still going to be an above average size project For you, is it better to have multiple projects that are much smaller? Can you talk about going forward the types of project concentration, please? Speaker 100:11:04Sure. I'll take that. Speaker 300:11:09You want to go, Rick? Or you want me to go? No, go ahead. Okay. Yes. Speaker 300:11:15So yes, that's clearly that's the largest single project that we've done in that business Ever. And I would say we evaluate projects based on the fundamentals in the ASPs. So it's not that we would shy away from doing anything that size, but Realistically, that's a large project and we've got a number of other commercial scale multi projects in the $2,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,000,000 range, which is probably more typical. But if it makes sense for us, we will do projects of that size as well. I would state that in the last 18 months, we have really focused on trying to win some of these multifamily projects. Speaker 300:11:52They do bring A little bit more standardization and hopefully higher margins and secure more production slots in our factory. So I would say that's a big one, but we would not shy away from doing others of that size, but typically they're going to be more in the half that size sort of range. Speaker 100:12:13Tate, this is Jeff. Really good question. One other thing about that is $9,000,000 is a total Project size, but it's 4 dorms. And so it in a way it's kind of 4 subsets of that project. I think an important thing with that is it gets us into a new vertical. Speaker 100:12:37It's a prestigious well known university that we're working with and It's a great case study for working with other colleges, universities on their student housing needs. And we all know that construction can be cyclical. We're a very small player in a big market and our thought is to have a lot of different end markets, a lot of There's a lot of different things that can be modular. And so the more diversity we have of projects, Clients end markets, the better. Speaker 500:13:25Thank you, Jeff. And one more for me. I mean, with everything going on in the just general market and interest rates and we always hear about higher costs And you addressed higher lumber costs, but with your customer conversations on the KBS side, have any projects been delayed or has funding come through Slower than you expected and any fundamental concerns in that end market or none at this point? Speaker 300:13:49We haven't seen that yet. I mean, it's one might expect that in an extreme condition, but our pipeline is still Very full, it's as high as it's as strong as it's ever been. The project for the university that we're doing, I mean, that's funded by their endowment, which is very large. So there's no real financing element to that. We just finished a workforce housing project on Martha's Vineyard that was about $2,000,000 in size That was funded by a 501c3 with some help from the Massachusetts government. Speaker 300:14:22I really don't see we have not seen that yet. Even in the private projects, we haven't seen any slowdown. Financing seems to be in place and the demand is there, I mean, at some point you might see that, but we just haven't seen that yet. Speaker 100:14:35And I would say to take a good question. Over a long period of time, we've transformed this business. It used to do a lot more Lower end residential and we've gone higher end, higher price point, more complicated projects. And like Dave was saying, it's a less price sensitive client, much more on quality and time to deliver. So I think that business Transition we've done over a period of years is Speaker 500:15:17helpful. Thank you. And one more for me, if I may. On Healthcare, sorry, 24% gross profit margins, I can you talk about, I mean, up from 21% Prior quarter, is it still should we look at that still being as a 20% gross profit margin business as well? Were there one time benefits So that margin in the quarter, can you expand on that margin, please? Speaker 100:15:41Yes, this is Jeff. Now there were no one time Benefits, I would say that the highest gross margin thing we do is selling cameras. The services business It is doesn't have the same margins that selling cameras does. And we usually Camera sales are highest in the 4th quarter and talking very low in Q1, But we had a pretty good Q1 in that department and so that was helpful. So I would be disappointed if the gross margin in this business is only 20%. Speaker 100:16:25We'd like it to be higher than that Over time, so call it low 20s. Speaker 500:16:33Okay. Thank you all. Operator00:16:48Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Jeff Everone for any closing comments. Speaker 100:16:56Thank you, operator. Before concluding this call, I'd like to note we're always available to take your call and discuss any Operator00:17:20Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Enjoy the rest of yourRead morePowered by