NASDAQ:MBUU Malibu Boats Q1 2024 Earnings Report $29.92 +0.87 (+2.99%) Closing price 05/2/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$29.94 +0.01 (+0.05%) As of 05/2/2025 07:18 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Malibu Boats EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.07Consensus EPS $0.83Beat/MissBeat by +$0.24One Year Ago EPSN/AMalibu Boats Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$255.83 millionExpected Revenue$243.81 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$12.02 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMalibu Boats Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date10/31/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, October 31, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsMalibu Boats' Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q3 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Malibu Boats Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 31, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Malibu Boats Conference Call to discuss First Quarter Fiscal Year 20 24 Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised that reproduction of This call in whole or in part is not permitted without written authorization of Malibu Boats. And as a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:25Only. On the call today from management are Mr. Jack Springer, Chief Executive Officer Mr. David Black, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Mr. Richie Anderson, Chief Operating Officer. Operator00:00:35I will now turn the call over to Mr. Black to get it started. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:40Mode. Thank Speaker 200:00:40you, and good morning, everyone. On the call, Jack will provide commentary on the business, and I will discuss our Q1 of fiscal year 2024 financials. Only mode. We will then open up the call for questions. A press release covering the company's fiscal Q1 2024 results was issued today, and a copy of that press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Speaker 200:01:03I also want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call and may contain certain forward looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates and other information that might be considered forward looking and that actual results could differ materially from those projected on today's call. You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which speak only as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to update them for any new information or future events. Factors that might affect future results are and listen only mode. We will be conducting a few questions. Please also note that we will be referring to certain non GAAP financial measures on today's call, such as adjusted EBITDA, on adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted fully distributed net income and adjusted fully distributed net income per share. Speaker 200:01:55Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Jack Springer. Speaker 300:02:04Thank you, David, and thank you all for joining the call. Now we've both delivered solid Q1 fiscal results that surpassed our expectations despite a rapidly evolving operating environment. Only. For the 1st fiscal quarter, net sales decreased 15% to $255,800,000 compared to the prior year. Net income decreased 42 percent to $20,800,000 while adjusted EBITDA fell 31% to $39,000,000 Gross margins decreased 250 basis points to 22% and adjusted EBITDA margin decreased by 370 basis points to 15%. Speaker 300:02:41In 12 short months, we went from unprecedented demand and navigating supply chain constraints while shipping every boat possible to an incredibly volatile environment flush with rising interest rates and decreasing demand levels. Our team has taken this fluid environment in stride. However, over the last several months, the retail market notably deteriorated. And as that happened, we continue to showcase our durability as a business and and we have worked diligently to match wholesale supply to retail demand by quickly aligning production levels throughout the quarter, which accounts for the decreases versus last year. While the softer retail demand levels are being driven by macro factors, They're being exacerbated by the return to a more normalized seasonality. Speaker 300:03:34In addition, the sense of urgency from customers to buy a boat has largely disappeared. The silver lining is that across all of our brands, those customers that are looking to buy are continuing to gravitate toward larger, More feature rich boats supporting higher ASPs. Importantly, these sales are often nearly all cash. Those customers utilizing significant financing when buying a boat are sitting on the sidelines in this more challenging interest rate environment. This is very evident in recent metrics. Speaker 300:04:05Historically, Malibu, Cobalt and Pursuit consumers have averaged about 50% and those that paid cash for 75% or more of their purchases of those brands. Through October, 65% of Malibu customers, 59% of Cobalt customers and 55% of Pursuit customers are paying cash for at least 75% of their boat purchase. Tobia, which averages about 40% of the customer base paying 75% or more of their boat purchasing cash has come in at 57% in the last 4 months. Access was a surprise to me. Historically, that average for consumers paying cash for 75% or more of their There is little doubt in our minds that the person buying on credit and buying next tier boats in terms of brand recognition and quality are remaining on the sidelines. Speaker 300:05:05As we discussed last quarter, we have continued our aggressive introduction of new product into the market. In Q1, we have introduced the 4 new Malibu and Axis boats discussed in August and we have also introduced 4 new Cobalt boats that are shipping to dealers now. Excuse me, one of the Cobalt new boats is a new R33 Surf, the largest surf boat ever designed and introduced by an MBI brand. The R33 Surf will utilize Surf Gate and all of our surf technology, making it the largest, most incredible wave generating machine over 30 feet. This will continue to capture the surf craze and drive sales. Speaker 300:05:43Dealers are currently standing in line to get their first one. At Pursuit, We have introduced the OS405 and it was on display for the first time at Fort Lauderdale generating rave reviews, but more importantly and a fantastic success of a boat show that it generated orders. As we have seen historically, all of this new product will lessen the impact of any downturn we are Speaking of Fort Lauderdale, we have spectacular results that were surprising in this environment. Pursuit was exceptionally strong. Last year, Pursuit set a record for sales at Fort Lauderdale at just over 30 units sold. Speaker 300:06:19This year, we blew that record away. Pursuit saw sales of 49 units and undoubtedly we expect to close a few more this week. The metrics behind the sales and provides credibility to what we are seeing and have said in the past and on this call. Large premium boats led the way with 34 units sold being over 30 feet in length and 11 units being over 40 feet in length. This is one of the highest concentrations of larger boats or remember seeing for Pursuit. Speaker 300:06:50Another key indicator of the premium focus was the richness of the ASP. Our ASP on the boat sold was nearly $520,000 versus a normal year round ASP of $325,000 to $350,000 Tobia sales, which were right on top of last year's record sales, also bore out the larger premium nature of the show. Almost 80% of the boats sold were over 30 feet in length and carried an ASP of over $300,000 which is nearly to $200,000 more than normal ASP year round. Fort Lauderdale was a surprisingly strong show for us and although only one data point provides a positive vibe in the saltwater environment. Market share for all of our brands continues to be a very positive story. Speaker 300:07:37On a trailing 12 month basis, Malibu and Axis is up 300 basis points in share. Cobalt Stern Drive share is up 280 basis points. Pursuit has gained 205 basis points of share. Pathfinder has gained 210 basis points of share to its credit and Covi is slightly up at 10 basis points of share gain. We fully expect this to continue throughout the downturn. Speaker 300:08:02A monumental strength of MDI and one that I believe is greatly overlooked is our variable cost structure and the ability to generate free cash flow. There are very few companies that have the capability we do in achieving this. Since 2017, every year, our variability of cost of goods sold as range from the high 80% range to 90%. And in fiscal year quarter 1, it was no exception coming in at 88.4% variable cost down to the gross margin line. This leads to very strong cash generation. Speaker 300:08:35In 2023, our free cash flow was nearly $130,000,000 and our free cash flow conversion for the last 3 years has averaged 60%. This gives us extreme confidence that we can be very profitable and capable of investing in strategic opportunities at any point in time and in any cycle. We have been through these cycles before and each time we have emerged stronger. Our operational capabilities are unmatched and our innovation continues to set us apart. An important element to our playbook is successfully matching production to retail demand, not only to protect our margins, but also to protect our dealers and make sure they stay and listen. Speaker 300:09:16Malibu's ability to remain agile and flexible has always been and continues to be a key differentiator for Malibu. I will say it again, Our cost structure is 80% to 90% variable, which allows us to execute quickly and outperform. Our vertical integration allows us to control key components of our boats from concept through delivery to the customer. Our operational excellence makes us nimble and capable on performance in any environment. While channel inventories, including saltwater, normalize much faster than anyone anticipated, Our neverness to slow down our build schedule has helped our dealers to have healthy inventories, enabling them to sell through model year 2023 inventory more quickly. Speaker 300:09:58We are certainly laser focused on inventory levels and believe most marine OEMs are as well, which will ultimately lead to a quicker recovery once demand increases. Looking ahead, the retail environment continues to weaken, driven largely by dealer concerns around the broader economic and interest rate environment. And as a result, they are being extremely cautious around inventory levels. Further, we had expected to see improvement in the second half of the year. But based on what we are seeing today, that is not likely to be the case. Speaker 300:10:29Instead, we expect wholesale demand across our brands to remain pressured. As such, we are revising our fiscal year 2024 outlook and now expect sales to be down from a high teens to low 20s percentage versus fiscal year 2023. While it is a challenging environment, my confidence in this team, our dealers and the strength of our brands is unwavering. I can't say it enough. We have managed through challenging times before and we will do it again. Speaker 300:10:57In these moments, the companies that can leverage a strong balance sheet and continue to invest in the future, while adeptly and strategically managing the business are the ones that emerged stronger than ever. And that has and will be Malibu. We have a strong track of outperforming the industry and everything we have done from an operational excellence and vertical integration standpoint will protect margins even in a down environment. A great example of this is our rollout of the Monsoon engine for Cobalt, which we will continue to scale over the next few years. Additionally, we are very excited about the build out of our Cobalt operations in Roan County, which will increase our volume capability and efficiencies for this brand. Speaker 300:11:39We are confident we will begin producing small boats in this facility in the Q1 of calendar year 2024. We have our eye on the prize with the winning strategy. We will stay nimble, advance our innovation and product development, leverage our vertical integration footprint and enhance operational excellence initiatives to ensure we remain on top as market conditions improve. Only mode. I will now turn the call over to David for further remarks on the quarter. Speaker 200:12:06Thanks, Jack. In the Q1, net sales decreased 15.3% to $255,800,000 and unit volume decreased 24.1 percent to 1698 units. Only. The decrease in net sales was driven primarily by decreased unit volumes across all segments, increased flooring program costs across all segments, only mode, resulting from higher interest rates and increased inventory levels, partially offset by a favorable model mix across all segments and inflation driven year over year price increases. The Malibu and Axis brands represented 47.3% of unit sales or 804 boats, Saltwater Fishing represented 29% or 4.91 boats and Cobalt made up the remaining 23.7 or 4 0 3 boats. Speaker 200:12:54Only. Consolidated net sales per unit increased 11.5 percent to approximately $150,000 to $665,000 per unit, primarily driven by year over year price increases and favorable model mix within all segments. Gross profit decreased 23.9 percent call for $17,800,000 to $56,800,000 and gross margin was 22.2%. This compares to a gross margin of 24.7% only. Selling and marketing expense increased 10.9% in the Q1. Speaker 200:13:36The increase was driven primarily by increased promotional events and an increase in compensation and personnel related expenses. As a percentage of sales, selling and marketing expense increased 50 basis points to 2.2% compared to 1.7% in the prior year period. General and administrative expenses increased 7.7% or $1,500,000 The increase was driven primarily by an increase in compensation personnel related expenses. As a percentage of sales, G and A expenses increased 170 basis points to 8.1% compared to the prior year period. Net income for the quarter decreased 42.5 percent to $20,800,000 Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter decreased 31.7 percent to $39,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 15.2% from 18.9%. Speaker 200:14:27Non GAAP adjusted fully distributed net income per Share decreased 36.9 percent to $1.13 per share. This is calculated using a normalized C Corp tax rate of 24.5 percent and a fully distributed weighted average share count of approximately 21,300,000 shares. For a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted fully distributed net income per share to GAAP metrics, please see the tables in our earnings Speaker 100:14:56listen. Speaker 200:14:56As Jax mentioned earlier, the retail environment continues to weaken, driven largely by dealer concerns around the broader macro and interest rate environment. Only. While we had originally expected to see improvement in the second half of the year, we are now revising our fiscal year 2024 outlook to account for softening conditions in light of the weakening retail environment that has disrupted seasonality heading into Q2. Only. We anticipate year over year decline in net sales ranging from high teens to low 20s percentage. Speaker 200:15:25We expect Q2 revenue decline of approximately 35%. Only. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be down 350 basis points to 4.50 basis points year over year to MBI and our ability to navigate through any down cycle we may face. Our variable cost structure and strong cash flow generation has allowed us to on strategic acquisition opportunities. Regardless of the environment, we are excited and optimistic about the future here at Malibu. Speaker 200:16:07Our team is strong. Our business model is battle tested and and we continue to be positioned well strategically for fiscal year 2024 and beyond. Speaker 100:16:16With that, I'd like to Speaker 200:16:17open up the call Operator00:16:38And our first question will come from Mike Swartz with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:44Hey, good morning guys. Maybe just to start off on the retail environment and some of your commentary around retail being softer and One of the rationale for why you brought down your guidance, I mean, we've obviously and everyone's seen the retail over the past couple of months and I think most people would say the numbers were listen. You're talking about Fort Lauderdale, some other have talked about how strong Fort Lauderdale was, yet you're kind of Using that to take down guidance. Maybe just help us understand and clarify what exactly you're talking about. Is this more to do with the dealer psyche than the actual retail on demand that we're seeing. Speaker 400:17:21Any color would be great. Thanks, Jack. Speaker 300:17:23Yes. I think it's the dealer psyche. It's also the consumer psyche. And I can't belabor enough that anyone that's going to be purchasing on interest rates, they're probably sitting on the sidelines. If you look back to 2020 onetwenty 22, the interest rates that they're paying are up to 4 times more than what they were paying back then. Speaker 300:17:43So I think that's a big impediment to the retail consumer psyche. The dealers are certainly paying more. They want to carry less inventory. That factors into it. And ultimately I think every single OEM company that is talking about this are looking at their order backlog versus previous years and what they think it will wind up being. Speaker 300:18:05What I hope, frankly, is that Fort Lauderdale proves to be a shift or a change in the environment that we have been in and think that we're going to continue to be in versus an aberration because it was and listen Speaker 500:18:18and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen Speaker 100:18:19and listen and listen and listen and listen and Speaker 300:18:19listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen You did not do as well. And it was at premium like the Pursuits of the world, the Covias of the world that did very well and that bodes extremely well for That's all water environment. But ultimately, I think that what we have coming out of us, Mike, is you have year end sales events that will take place in freshwater through the rest Then you hit that freshwater boat show cycle. Miami, of course, as always, is going to be very important. So by the time that we get to Reporting on the Q2, I believe we'll have a much better feel for what the year is going to turn out to be. Speaker 400:19:01Okay. Only. That's helpful. And then just with regards, I know Malibu kicked off its annual year end factory event. I think it was a week or 2 ago. Speaker 400:19:11Maybe just give us a sense of how that program compares to years past and maybe what you've seen thus far From a demand or an order perspective? Speaker 300:19:23From what we've seen, it's really too early to tell. A lot of times that starts happening In the November and leading all the way up to the December 15 timeframe. What I would tell you on the program itself And I think that everyone is experiencing this, is it is richer this year than in previous years. I think in the towboat and freshwater environment, We are in a more promotional mindset and we're seeing that with our competition as well. And so to drive some of the volume, we're going to have to be more promotional. Speaker 300:19:56We certainly took that attack path into the year end sales event. Speaker 600:20:01Okay. Thank you. Operator00:20:05And our next question will come from Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:20:12Thank you. Good morning. Just one point of clarification, on the updated net sales guidance for the year, what is the implied Retail market change that you're using there? Speaker 200:20:26Yes. So we're expecting high single digits to low double digits in our implied guide. Speaker 600:20:35Okay. And then on the Jack, you talked about obviously those credit buyers that are relying on credit are the ones staying on the sidelines. Are they Speaker 400:20:47In your opinion, are they purely seeing on Speaker 600:20:48the sidelines because of that interest rate cost? Are you seeing any reluctance from When there's this environment or any inability for those buyers to get credit even if they wanted to step off the sidelines and make that vote for you. Speaker 300:21:04Order. Yes. In terms of order, certainly they're just staying on the environment because they're not going to pay those interest rates and it's so different If we go back to 2021, the end of 2021, the interest rate was 0.25 percent by the Fed now it's 5.25 and so that has a huge impact on them. There of course, in this environment, there is some level of people that are looking for credit, but It's more strenuous to get it or they cannot get it. But I would put that at the bottom of the category in terms of versus People who just are sitting on the sidelines. Speaker 400:21:42Got it. Thank you very much. Speaker 600:21:43Helpful. Appreciate it. Sure. Operator00:21:47Listen. And our next question will come from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:21:53Hey, thanks for taking my questions as well. I wanted to ask about your dealer network and the health of that network, given carrying excess inventory maybe and facing higher Interest expense, any concerns about your network or the broader marine dealer network? Speaker 300:22:13Largely no, Craig. I mean, you always have some that you watch a little bit more closely. We're very in tune with Wells Fargo and what they're seeing. And the early warning systems that are in place that did not exist in 2008 and 2,009. So we feel pretty confident. Speaker 300:22:29We're Actually looking to expand our dealer networks and we're working on that today. The one thing I would point to though that we're focused on is during COVID When the Tier 1 builders, OEMs could not build enough boats, dealers took on Tier 2 and Tier 3 brands. And so that needs to go away, frankly. I mean, there's floor plan that's being tied up with garbage brands. And so we need that floor plan. Speaker 300:22:57So that is a focus area Speaker 700:23:01and then could you just comment on the age of inventory and whether you see any issues with or non current model year inventory? Speaker 300:23:11For us, no. In fact, if we look at it across that Freshwater environment, when we had the promotion back in July that was so successful, a lot of that 'twenty three inventory was moving. There's very, very little, As you can imagine, 2022 inventory. And so that's a little bit of a difference from the last decade, if you look at it that way. On saltwater, I think that we were highly successful in any remaining aged inventory moving through that at Fort Lauderdale. Speaker 300:23:42So If I look at it over, call it, a 5 to 7 year timeframe, I would say that from our standpoint, the inventories are as fresh as they've been with the exception of during those COVID years. Speaker 700:23:57Great. Thank you, Jack. Speaker 300:23:59Thank you. Operator00:24:03And our next question will come from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:24:08Thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning. So it seems pretty clear there's some affordability issue among a large portion of your buyers, given the percentage of cash buyers you're seeing, Particularly among your core Malibu access buyers. And a lot of that's higher rates as you mentioned, but some of it might be pricing as well. Speaker 800:24:25So As a manufacturer, what can Malibu do to sort of address that beyond pricing? Speaker 300:24:34Joe, I think Beyond pricing, I think that we are going to see a more promotional environment in that regard. But one thing that I would point out on the Malibu access side We have been because of our vertical integration, because of the way that we manage our business Against our primary competitors, we're $20,000 $30,000 less than what they are. So the value proposition that we offer, the best boat on the market at a lower price because of the way that we manage our business. That's one of the reasons you see a 300 basis point gain in share. And I think that in that equation, you have them with some higher levels of inventory that they're going to have to move through. Speaker 300:25:14And so that's going to have an impact somewhat for a while, but I am supremely confident that with our model, with the way that we're able to build both at the cost that we're able to build them, We're going to win over the long term. They just can't get there. They can't compete in a normalized environment. On the Cobalt side, Cobalt continues to show the incredible strength of the brand. And what I mean by that is The holding of price and whatever we come out with from a CoBos standpoint continues to be a strength. Speaker 300:25:47And of the brands at least up in De Fort Lauderdale, Cobalt has remained the strongest throughout at least the 1st 3 months of this year. So, I think more for us, frankly, is a focus on next year. We have to have suppliers that are coming back to earth and coming out with costs that make sense and have the increases very minimal. It's time to get out of this inflationary mindset that many suppliers are in and let's get the pricing back to where it needs to be. Speaker 800:26:21Got it. Very helpful. And maybe just to follow-up on that, you mentioned field inventories are at or above pre COVID levels. And I think on your last call, you mentioned you wanted them to be a tad below that. Do you still think a tad below that is the right level given the current demand environment? Speaker 800:26:35And what's baked into your guidance? Speaker 100:26:38Given I'll let David answer Speaker 300:26:40the last part of the question. But given the current environment, I think it is a tad below COVID levels Would pre COVID levels would be the right amount of inventory? Speaker 200:26:50Yes. And embedded in our guidance, we are using the pre COVID levels on a sell through perspective. So that's where we feel like the appropriate level is and we baked into our future forward looking outlook. Speaker 800:27:02Okay. Thank you. Operator00:27:07Open. And our next question will come from Jamie Katz with Morningstar. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:27:13Hi, good morning. I guess it would be helpful to hear how you guys are thinking about the split by what the floor and cost impact might be, that might help us frame that metric a little better. Thanks. Speaker 200:27:39Yes. So on the gross margin side, obviously embedded in our guidance is more weakness on on the gross margin and so you'll see that continue throughout the remainder of the year. And then on a flooring perspective. I'd say that's worth about 150 basis points of pressure. Speaker 900:28:11Only. Okay. And then I think you guys said 700 basis points of EBITDA deleverage in the second quarter. Is there anything idiosyncratic in that? Or is it just deleverage from lower volumes? Speaker 900:28:28Only. Thanks. Speaker 200:28:29It's predominantly the deleverage from lower volumes and a shift in mix as well. Speaker 900:28:39Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:28:43And our next question will come from Brandon Rolle with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:49Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just circling back to the pricing conversation, I know in previous calls, you had voiced some frustration that suppliers may not have given as much pricing concessions that you're looking for. Could you update us on your recent conversations and kind of how do you expect Pricing the trend here over the next, I would say, 6 to 9 months? Thank you. Speaker 100:29:13Yes. Brandon, I mean, we've Speaker 300:29:14had some I think suppliers are it's a natural environment, right? When you have high volumes, they're going to raise prices. But when the volumes start coming down, They're going to start getting competitive. And we've introduced competition into the mix in some cases, because we're very, very focused that The consumer is speaking. We have to listen to it. Speaker 300:29:36The suppliers have to listen to it. So I would tell you that we expect marginal success going forward until we get to that next budget cycle, which is going to be in that March timeframe of next year. And we're going to be extremely focused and putting a lot of pressure on the costing aspect because I do firmly believe that we need to have a price increase that's relatively minute next year versus the previous 4 years. Speaker 600:30:08Great. Thank you. Operator00:30:12Only. And our next question will come from Noah Zatzkin with KeyBanc. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:30:18Hi, thanks for taking my question. Maybe just one for me on capital allocation priorities. I guess, does the current environment or change how you're thinking about priorities. I know you had mentioned looking to acquire a pontoon brand or greenfield ones. So just trying to get updated thoughts around that here. Speaker 1000:30:38Thanks. Speaker 300:30:40Yes. Right now, what we've done is our capital allocation It's been the product. It's been to the Roan County facility, which will be doing small boats for Cobalt. It's been for our tooling design center that It's going to be a big important vertical integration for us going forward across all of the brands. And what I would tell you is that that doesn't change our and answer session. Speaker 300:31:04Product is critical. Back in 2009 timeframe and a 2 year period of time, We took market share of 900 basis points because we were the only one bringing our product. So we're always going to be progressive and aggressive in bringing out new product, new innovations. In the PowerPoint this morning, you'll see some information on cash and I talked about it as well. I think one of the Blessings or benefits that we have is because we are such strong cash generators, we don't have to look at an environment Hey, we need to pull back. Speaker 300:31:46We don't need to make this acquisition. I will tell you that from an M and A standpoint, if the right asset comes to market at any point in time, be it midnight or noon, we will be in the market for that acquisition because we can be. We have that capability. We also have 3 or 4 initiatives, strategic initiatives that we're going to be embarking over the next 2, 3, 4 years. There really have no relationship at all to what economic environment we're in because once we emerge from that, We will be stronger and we'll have higher market share. Speaker 800:32:22Thank you. Operator00:32:26I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jack Springer for any further remarks. Speaker 300:32:33Thank you, Joe. Appreciate it. In summary, Malibu's fiscal first quarter results surpassed our expectations supported by our team's superior execution combined with the inherent strength across our lineup of brands by a rapidly evolving operating environment. As we move through the quarter, the retail environment markedly deteriorated and the sense of urgency customers had over the last few years largely was gone, coupled with the challenged interest rate and macroeconomic landscape. However, those customers in the market are continuing to support elevated ASPs as they look for feature rich boats. Speaker 300:33:10Our variable cost structure and ability to create significant free cash flow ensures a strong balance sheet, quicker recovery and ability to invest in important strategic opportunities. Our strategic planning, operational excellence and supply chain management continues to support Our outperformance of the broader industry and our vertical integration has enabled us to remain resilient. We are confident that this team will once again exercise its operational prowess to navigate the current environment, while at the same time advancing our innovation, our manufacturing capabilities and our vertical integration footprint to ensure we once again emerge stronger as the market conditions improve. As always, I would like to thank you for your support and for joining us today. While we are in a challenging retail environment, especially compared to the COVID years, we will continue to thrive and grow with continued excellence in fiscal year 2024. Speaker 300:34:04Have a great day. Operator00:34:08This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMalibu Boats Q1 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Malibu Boats Earnings HeadlinesMalibu Boats, Inc. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Malibu Boats Conference Call to discuss First Quarter Fiscal Year 20 24 Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised that reproduction of This call in whole or in part is not permitted without written authorization of Malibu Boats. And as a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:25Only. On the call today from management are Mr. Jack Springer, Chief Executive Officer Mr. David Black, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Mr. Richie Anderson, Chief Operating Officer. Operator00:00:35I will now turn the call over to Mr. Black to get it started. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:40Mode. Thank Speaker 200:00:40you, and good morning, everyone. On the call, Jack will provide commentary on the business, and I will discuss our Q1 of fiscal year 2024 financials. Only mode. We will then open up the call for questions. A press release covering the company's fiscal Q1 2024 results was issued today, and a copy of that press release can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Speaker 200:01:03I also want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call and may contain certain forward looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates and other information that might be considered forward looking and that actual results could differ materially from those projected on today's call. You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which speak only as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to update them for any new information or future events. Factors that might affect future results are and listen only mode. We will be conducting a few questions. Please also note that we will be referring to certain non GAAP financial measures on today's call, such as adjusted EBITDA, on adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted fully distributed net income and adjusted fully distributed net income per share. Speaker 200:01:55Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Jack Springer. Speaker 300:02:04Thank you, David, and thank you all for joining the call. Now we've both delivered solid Q1 fiscal results that surpassed our expectations despite a rapidly evolving operating environment. Only. For the 1st fiscal quarter, net sales decreased 15% to $255,800,000 compared to the prior year. Net income decreased 42 percent to $20,800,000 while adjusted EBITDA fell 31% to $39,000,000 Gross margins decreased 250 basis points to 22% and adjusted EBITDA margin decreased by 370 basis points to 15%. Speaker 300:02:41In 12 short months, we went from unprecedented demand and navigating supply chain constraints while shipping every boat possible to an incredibly volatile environment flush with rising interest rates and decreasing demand levels. Our team has taken this fluid environment in stride. However, over the last several months, the retail market notably deteriorated. And as that happened, we continue to showcase our durability as a business and and we have worked diligently to match wholesale supply to retail demand by quickly aligning production levels throughout the quarter, which accounts for the decreases versus last year. While the softer retail demand levels are being driven by macro factors, They're being exacerbated by the return to a more normalized seasonality. Speaker 300:03:34In addition, the sense of urgency from customers to buy a boat has largely disappeared. The silver lining is that across all of our brands, those customers that are looking to buy are continuing to gravitate toward larger, More feature rich boats supporting higher ASPs. Importantly, these sales are often nearly all cash. Those customers utilizing significant financing when buying a boat are sitting on the sidelines in this more challenging interest rate environment. This is very evident in recent metrics. Speaker 300:04:05Historically, Malibu, Cobalt and Pursuit consumers have averaged about 50% and those that paid cash for 75% or more of their purchases of those brands. Through October, 65% of Malibu customers, 59% of Cobalt customers and 55% of Pursuit customers are paying cash for at least 75% of their boat purchase. Tobia, which averages about 40% of the customer base paying 75% or more of their boat purchasing cash has come in at 57% in the last 4 months. Access was a surprise to me. Historically, that average for consumers paying cash for 75% or more of their There is little doubt in our minds that the person buying on credit and buying next tier boats in terms of brand recognition and quality are remaining on the sidelines. Speaker 300:05:05As we discussed last quarter, we have continued our aggressive introduction of new product into the market. In Q1, we have introduced the 4 new Malibu and Axis boats discussed in August and we have also introduced 4 new Cobalt boats that are shipping to dealers now. Excuse me, one of the Cobalt new boats is a new R33 Surf, the largest surf boat ever designed and introduced by an MBI brand. The R33 Surf will utilize Surf Gate and all of our surf technology, making it the largest, most incredible wave generating machine over 30 feet. This will continue to capture the surf craze and drive sales. Speaker 300:05:43Dealers are currently standing in line to get their first one. At Pursuit, We have introduced the OS405 and it was on display for the first time at Fort Lauderdale generating rave reviews, but more importantly and a fantastic success of a boat show that it generated orders. As we have seen historically, all of this new product will lessen the impact of any downturn we are Speaking of Fort Lauderdale, we have spectacular results that were surprising in this environment. Pursuit was exceptionally strong. Last year, Pursuit set a record for sales at Fort Lauderdale at just over 30 units sold. Speaker 300:06:19This year, we blew that record away. Pursuit saw sales of 49 units and undoubtedly we expect to close a few more this week. The metrics behind the sales and provides credibility to what we are seeing and have said in the past and on this call. Large premium boats led the way with 34 units sold being over 30 feet in length and 11 units being over 40 feet in length. This is one of the highest concentrations of larger boats or remember seeing for Pursuit. Speaker 300:06:50Another key indicator of the premium focus was the richness of the ASP. Our ASP on the boat sold was nearly $520,000 versus a normal year round ASP of $325,000 to $350,000 Tobia sales, which were right on top of last year's record sales, also bore out the larger premium nature of the show. Almost 80% of the boats sold were over 30 feet in length and carried an ASP of over $300,000 which is nearly to $200,000 more than normal ASP year round. Fort Lauderdale was a surprisingly strong show for us and although only one data point provides a positive vibe in the saltwater environment. Market share for all of our brands continues to be a very positive story. Speaker 300:07:37On a trailing 12 month basis, Malibu and Axis is up 300 basis points in share. Cobalt Stern Drive share is up 280 basis points. Pursuit has gained 205 basis points of share. Pathfinder has gained 210 basis points of share to its credit and Covi is slightly up at 10 basis points of share gain. We fully expect this to continue throughout the downturn. Speaker 300:08:02A monumental strength of MDI and one that I believe is greatly overlooked is our variable cost structure and the ability to generate free cash flow. There are very few companies that have the capability we do in achieving this. Since 2017, every year, our variability of cost of goods sold as range from the high 80% range to 90%. And in fiscal year quarter 1, it was no exception coming in at 88.4% variable cost down to the gross margin line. This leads to very strong cash generation. Speaker 300:08:35In 2023, our free cash flow was nearly $130,000,000 and our free cash flow conversion for the last 3 years has averaged 60%. This gives us extreme confidence that we can be very profitable and capable of investing in strategic opportunities at any point in time and in any cycle. We have been through these cycles before and each time we have emerged stronger. Our operational capabilities are unmatched and our innovation continues to set us apart. An important element to our playbook is successfully matching production to retail demand, not only to protect our margins, but also to protect our dealers and make sure they stay and listen. Speaker 300:09:16Malibu's ability to remain agile and flexible has always been and continues to be a key differentiator for Malibu. I will say it again, Our cost structure is 80% to 90% variable, which allows us to execute quickly and outperform. Our vertical integration allows us to control key components of our boats from concept through delivery to the customer. Our operational excellence makes us nimble and capable on performance in any environment. While channel inventories, including saltwater, normalize much faster than anyone anticipated, Our neverness to slow down our build schedule has helped our dealers to have healthy inventories, enabling them to sell through model year 2023 inventory more quickly. Speaker 300:09:58We are certainly laser focused on inventory levels and believe most marine OEMs are as well, which will ultimately lead to a quicker recovery once demand increases. Looking ahead, the retail environment continues to weaken, driven largely by dealer concerns around the broader economic and interest rate environment. And as a result, they are being extremely cautious around inventory levels. Further, we had expected to see improvement in the second half of the year. But based on what we are seeing today, that is not likely to be the case. Speaker 300:10:29Instead, we expect wholesale demand across our brands to remain pressured. As such, we are revising our fiscal year 2024 outlook and now expect sales to be down from a high teens to low 20s percentage versus fiscal year 2023. While it is a challenging environment, my confidence in this team, our dealers and the strength of our brands is unwavering. I can't say it enough. We have managed through challenging times before and we will do it again. Speaker 300:10:57In these moments, the companies that can leverage a strong balance sheet and continue to invest in the future, while adeptly and strategically managing the business are the ones that emerged stronger than ever. And that has and will be Malibu. We have a strong track of outperforming the industry and everything we have done from an operational excellence and vertical integration standpoint will protect margins even in a down environment. A great example of this is our rollout of the Monsoon engine for Cobalt, which we will continue to scale over the next few years. Additionally, we are very excited about the build out of our Cobalt operations in Roan County, which will increase our volume capability and efficiencies for this brand. Speaker 300:11:39We are confident we will begin producing small boats in this facility in the Q1 of calendar year 2024. We have our eye on the prize with the winning strategy. We will stay nimble, advance our innovation and product development, leverage our vertical integration footprint and enhance operational excellence initiatives to ensure we remain on top as market conditions improve. Only mode. I will now turn the call over to David for further remarks on the quarter. Speaker 200:12:06Thanks, Jack. In the Q1, net sales decreased 15.3% to $255,800,000 and unit volume decreased 24.1 percent to 1698 units. Only. The decrease in net sales was driven primarily by decreased unit volumes across all segments, increased flooring program costs across all segments, only mode, resulting from higher interest rates and increased inventory levels, partially offset by a favorable model mix across all segments and inflation driven year over year price increases. The Malibu and Axis brands represented 47.3% of unit sales or 804 boats, Saltwater Fishing represented 29% or 4.91 boats and Cobalt made up the remaining 23.7 or 4 0 3 boats. Speaker 200:12:54Only. Consolidated net sales per unit increased 11.5 percent to approximately $150,000 to $665,000 per unit, primarily driven by year over year price increases and favorable model mix within all segments. Gross profit decreased 23.9 percent call for $17,800,000 to $56,800,000 and gross margin was 22.2%. This compares to a gross margin of 24.7% only. Selling and marketing expense increased 10.9% in the Q1. Speaker 200:13:36The increase was driven primarily by increased promotional events and an increase in compensation and personnel related expenses. As a percentage of sales, selling and marketing expense increased 50 basis points to 2.2% compared to 1.7% in the prior year period. General and administrative expenses increased 7.7% or $1,500,000 The increase was driven primarily by an increase in compensation personnel related expenses. As a percentage of sales, G and A expenses increased 170 basis points to 8.1% compared to the prior year period. Net income for the quarter decreased 42.5 percent to $20,800,000 Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter decreased 31.7 percent to $39,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 15.2% from 18.9%. Speaker 200:14:27Non GAAP adjusted fully distributed net income per Share decreased 36.9 percent to $1.13 per share. This is calculated using a normalized C Corp tax rate of 24.5 percent and a fully distributed weighted average share count of approximately 21,300,000 shares. For a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted fully distributed net income per share to GAAP metrics, please see the tables in our earnings Speaker 100:14:56listen. Speaker 200:14:56As Jax mentioned earlier, the retail environment continues to weaken, driven largely by dealer concerns around the broader macro and interest rate environment. Only. While we had originally expected to see improvement in the second half of the year, we are now revising our fiscal year 2024 outlook to account for softening conditions in light of the weakening retail environment that has disrupted seasonality heading into Q2. Only. We anticipate year over year decline in net sales ranging from high teens to low 20s percentage. Speaker 200:15:25We expect Q2 revenue decline of approximately 35%. Only. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be down 350 basis points to 4.50 basis points year over year to MBI and our ability to navigate through any down cycle we may face. Our variable cost structure and strong cash flow generation has allowed us to on strategic acquisition opportunities. Regardless of the environment, we are excited and optimistic about the future here at Malibu. Speaker 200:16:07Our team is strong. Our business model is battle tested and and we continue to be positioned well strategically for fiscal year 2024 and beyond. Speaker 100:16:16With that, I'd like to Speaker 200:16:17open up the call Operator00:16:38And our first question will come from Mike Swartz with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:44Hey, good morning guys. Maybe just to start off on the retail environment and some of your commentary around retail being softer and One of the rationale for why you brought down your guidance, I mean, we've obviously and everyone's seen the retail over the past couple of months and I think most people would say the numbers were listen. You're talking about Fort Lauderdale, some other have talked about how strong Fort Lauderdale was, yet you're kind of Using that to take down guidance. Maybe just help us understand and clarify what exactly you're talking about. Is this more to do with the dealer psyche than the actual retail on demand that we're seeing. Speaker 400:17:21Any color would be great. Thanks, Jack. Speaker 300:17:23Yes. I think it's the dealer psyche. It's also the consumer psyche. And I can't belabor enough that anyone that's going to be purchasing on interest rates, they're probably sitting on the sidelines. If you look back to 2020 onetwenty 22, the interest rates that they're paying are up to 4 times more than what they were paying back then. Speaker 300:17:43So I think that's a big impediment to the retail consumer psyche. The dealers are certainly paying more. They want to carry less inventory. That factors into it. And ultimately I think every single OEM company that is talking about this are looking at their order backlog versus previous years and what they think it will wind up being. Speaker 300:18:05What I hope, frankly, is that Fort Lauderdale proves to be a shift or a change in the environment that we have been in and think that we're going to continue to be in versus an aberration because it was and listen Speaker 500:18:18and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen Speaker 100:18:19and listen and listen and listen and listen and Speaker 300:18:19listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen and listen You did not do as well. And it was at premium like the Pursuits of the world, the Covias of the world that did very well and that bodes extremely well for That's all water environment. But ultimately, I think that what we have coming out of us, Mike, is you have year end sales events that will take place in freshwater through the rest Then you hit that freshwater boat show cycle. Miami, of course, as always, is going to be very important. So by the time that we get to Reporting on the Q2, I believe we'll have a much better feel for what the year is going to turn out to be. Speaker 400:19:01Okay. Only. That's helpful. And then just with regards, I know Malibu kicked off its annual year end factory event. I think it was a week or 2 ago. Speaker 400:19:11Maybe just give us a sense of how that program compares to years past and maybe what you've seen thus far From a demand or an order perspective? Speaker 300:19:23From what we've seen, it's really too early to tell. A lot of times that starts happening In the November and leading all the way up to the December 15 timeframe. What I would tell you on the program itself And I think that everyone is experiencing this, is it is richer this year than in previous years. I think in the towboat and freshwater environment, We are in a more promotional mindset and we're seeing that with our competition as well. And so to drive some of the volume, we're going to have to be more promotional. Speaker 300:19:56We certainly took that attack path into the year end sales event. Speaker 600:20:01Okay. Thank you. Operator00:20:05And our next question will come from Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:20:12Thank you. Good morning. Just one point of clarification, on the updated net sales guidance for the year, what is the implied Retail market change that you're using there? Speaker 200:20:26Yes. So we're expecting high single digits to low double digits in our implied guide. Speaker 600:20:35Okay. And then on the Jack, you talked about obviously those credit buyers that are relying on credit are the ones staying on the sidelines. Are they Speaker 400:20:47In your opinion, are they purely seeing on Speaker 600:20:48the sidelines because of that interest rate cost? Are you seeing any reluctance from When there's this environment or any inability for those buyers to get credit even if they wanted to step off the sidelines and make that vote for you. Speaker 300:21:04Order. Yes. In terms of order, certainly they're just staying on the environment because they're not going to pay those interest rates and it's so different If we go back to 2021, the end of 2021, the interest rate was 0.25 percent by the Fed now it's 5.25 and so that has a huge impact on them. There of course, in this environment, there is some level of people that are looking for credit, but It's more strenuous to get it or they cannot get it. But I would put that at the bottom of the category in terms of versus People who just are sitting on the sidelines. Speaker 400:21:42Got it. Thank you very much. Speaker 600:21:43Helpful. Appreciate it. Sure. Operator00:21:47Listen. And our next question will come from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:21:53Hey, thanks for taking my questions as well. I wanted to ask about your dealer network and the health of that network, given carrying excess inventory maybe and facing higher Interest expense, any concerns about your network or the broader marine dealer network? Speaker 300:22:13Largely no, Craig. I mean, you always have some that you watch a little bit more closely. We're very in tune with Wells Fargo and what they're seeing. And the early warning systems that are in place that did not exist in 2008 and 2,009. So we feel pretty confident. Speaker 300:22:29We're Actually looking to expand our dealer networks and we're working on that today. The one thing I would point to though that we're focused on is during COVID When the Tier 1 builders, OEMs could not build enough boats, dealers took on Tier 2 and Tier 3 brands. And so that needs to go away, frankly. I mean, there's floor plan that's being tied up with garbage brands. And so we need that floor plan. Speaker 300:22:57So that is a focus area Speaker 700:23:01and then could you just comment on the age of inventory and whether you see any issues with or non current model year inventory? Speaker 300:23:11For us, no. In fact, if we look at it across that Freshwater environment, when we had the promotion back in July that was so successful, a lot of that 'twenty three inventory was moving. There's very, very little, As you can imagine, 2022 inventory. And so that's a little bit of a difference from the last decade, if you look at it that way. On saltwater, I think that we were highly successful in any remaining aged inventory moving through that at Fort Lauderdale. Speaker 300:23:42So If I look at it over, call it, a 5 to 7 year timeframe, I would say that from our standpoint, the inventories are as fresh as they've been with the exception of during those COVID years. Speaker 700:23:57Great. Thank you, Jack. Speaker 300:23:59Thank you. Operator00:24:03And our next question will come from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:24:08Thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning. So it seems pretty clear there's some affordability issue among a large portion of your buyers, given the percentage of cash buyers you're seeing, Particularly among your core Malibu access buyers. And a lot of that's higher rates as you mentioned, but some of it might be pricing as well. Speaker 800:24:25So As a manufacturer, what can Malibu do to sort of address that beyond pricing? Speaker 300:24:34Joe, I think Beyond pricing, I think that we are going to see a more promotional environment in that regard. But one thing that I would point out on the Malibu access side We have been because of our vertical integration, because of the way that we manage our business Against our primary competitors, we're $20,000 $30,000 less than what they are. So the value proposition that we offer, the best boat on the market at a lower price because of the way that we manage our business. That's one of the reasons you see a 300 basis point gain in share. And I think that in that equation, you have them with some higher levels of inventory that they're going to have to move through. Speaker 300:25:14And so that's going to have an impact somewhat for a while, but I am supremely confident that with our model, with the way that we're able to build both at the cost that we're able to build them, We're going to win over the long term. They just can't get there. They can't compete in a normalized environment. On the Cobalt side, Cobalt continues to show the incredible strength of the brand. And what I mean by that is The holding of price and whatever we come out with from a CoBos standpoint continues to be a strength. Speaker 300:25:47And of the brands at least up in De Fort Lauderdale, Cobalt has remained the strongest throughout at least the 1st 3 months of this year. So, I think more for us, frankly, is a focus on next year. We have to have suppliers that are coming back to earth and coming out with costs that make sense and have the increases very minimal. It's time to get out of this inflationary mindset that many suppliers are in and let's get the pricing back to where it needs to be. Speaker 800:26:21Got it. Very helpful. And maybe just to follow-up on that, you mentioned field inventories are at or above pre COVID levels. And I think on your last call, you mentioned you wanted them to be a tad below that. Do you still think a tad below that is the right level given the current demand environment? Speaker 800:26:35And what's baked into your guidance? Speaker 100:26:38Given I'll let David answer Speaker 300:26:40the last part of the question. But given the current environment, I think it is a tad below COVID levels Would pre COVID levels would be the right amount of inventory? Speaker 200:26:50Yes. And embedded in our guidance, we are using the pre COVID levels on a sell through perspective. So that's where we feel like the appropriate level is and we baked into our future forward looking outlook. Speaker 800:27:02Okay. Thank you. Operator00:27:07Open. And our next question will come from Jamie Katz with Morningstar. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:27:13Hi, good morning. I guess it would be helpful to hear how you guys are thinking about the split by what the floor and cost impact might be, that might help us frame that metric a little better. Thanks. Speaker 200:27:39Yes. So on the gross margin side, obviously embedded in our guidance is more weakness on on the gross margin and so you'll see that continue throughout the remainder of the year. And then on a flooring perspective. I'd say that's worth about 150 basis points of pressure. Speaker 900:28:11Only. Okay. And then I think you guys said 700 basis points of EBITDA deleverage in the second quarter. Is there anything idiosyncratic in that? Or is it just deleverage from lower volumes? Speaker 900:28:28Only. Thanks. Speaker 200:28:29It's predominantly the deleverage from lower volumes and a shift in mix as well. Speaker 900:28:39Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:28:43And our next question will come from Brandon Rolle with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:49Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just circling back to the pricing conversation, I know in previous calls, you had voiced some frustration that suppliers may not have given as much pricing concessions that you're looking for. Could you update us on your recent conversations and kind of how do you expect Pricing the trend here over the next, I would say, 6 to 9 months? Thank you. Speaker 100:29:13Yes. Brandon, I mean, we've Speaker 300:29:14had some I think suppliers are it's a natural environment, right? When you have high volumes, they're going to raise prices. But when the volumes start coming down, They're going to start getting competitive. And we've introduced competition into the mix in some cases, because we're very, very focused that The consumer is speaking. We have to listen to it. Speaker 300:29:36The suppliers have to listen to it. So I would tell you that we expect marginal success going forward until we get to that next budget cycle, which is going to be in that March timeframe of next year. And we're going to be extremely focused and putting a lot of pressure on the costing aspect because I do firmly believe that we need to have a price increase that's relatively minute next year versus the previous 4 years. Speaker 600:30:08Great. Thank you. Operator00:30:12Only. And our next question will come from Noah Zatzkin with KeyBanc. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:30:18Hi, thanks for taking my question. Maybe just one for me on capital allocation priorities. I guess, does the current environment or change how you're thinking about priorities. I know you had mentioned looking to acquire a pontoon brand or greenfield ones. So just trying to get updated thoughts around that here. Speaker 1000:30:38Thanks. Speaker 300:30:40Yes. Right now, what we've done is our capital allocation It's been the product. It's been to the Roan County facility, which will be doing small boats for Cobalt. It's been for our tooling design center that It's going to be a big important vertical integration for us going forward across all of the brands. And what I would tell you is that that doesn't change our and answer session. Speaker 300:31:04Product is critical. Back in 2009 timeframe and a 2 year period of time, We took market share of 900 basis points because we were the only one bringing our product. So we're always going to be progressive and aggressive in bringing out new product, new innovations. In the PowerPoint this morning, you'll see some information on cash and I talked about it as well. I think one of the Blessings or benefits that we have is because we are such strong cash generators, we don't have to look at an environment Hey, we need to pull back. Speaker 300:31:46We don't need to make this acquisition. I will tell you that from an M and A standpoint, if the right asset comes to market at any point in time, be it midnight or noon, we will be in the market for that acquisition because we can be. We have that capability. We also have 3 or 4 initiatives, strategic initiatives that we're going to be embarking over the next 2, 3, 4 years. There really have no relationship at all to what economic environment we're in because once we emerge from that, We will be stronger and we'll have higher market share. Speaker 800:32:22Thank you. Operator00:32:26I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jack Springer for any further remarks. Speaker 300:32:33Thank you, Joe. Appreciate it. In summary, Malibu's fiscal first quarter results surpassed our expectations supported by our team's superior execution combined with the inherent strength across our lineup of brands by a rapidly evolving operating environment. As we move through the quarter, the retail environment markedly deteriorated and the sense of urgency customers had over the last few years largely was gone, coupled with the challenged interest rate and macroeconomic landscape. However, those customers in the market are continuing to support elevated ASPs as they look for feature rich boats. Speaker 300:33:10Our variable cost structure and ability to create significant free cash flow ensures a strong balance sheet, quicker recovery and ability to invest in important strategic opportunities. Our strategic planning, operational excellence and supply chain management continues to support Our outperformance of the broader industry and our vertical integration has enabled us to remain resilient. We are confident that this team will once again exercise its operational prowess to navigate the current environment, while at the same time advancing our innovation, our manufacturing capabilities and our vertical integration footprint to ensure we once again emerge stronger as the market conditions improve. As always, I would like to thank you for your support and for joining us today. While we are in a challenging retail environment, especially compared to the COVID years, we will continue to thrive and grow with continued excellence in fiscal year 2024. Speaker 300:34:04Have a great day. Operator00:34:08This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by