OGE Energy Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 2, 2023

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OGE Energy Corp. Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jason Bailey, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Andrea, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to OGE Energy Corp's Q3 2023 earnings call. With me today, I have Sean Trosky, our Chairman, President and CEO and Brian Buckler, our CFO. In terms of the call today, we will first hear from Sean, followed by an explanation from Brian of financial results. And finally, as always, we will answer your questions. I'd like to remind you that this conference call is being webcast and you may follow along at oge.com.

Speaker 1

In addition, the conference call and accompanying slides will be archived following the call on that same website. Before we begin the presentation, I'd like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor statement regarding forward looking statements. This is an SEC requirement for financial statements and simply states that we cannot guarantee forward looking financial results, but this is our best estimate to date. I will now turn the call over to Sean for his opening remarks. Sean?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. It's certainly great to be with you. Earlier this morning, we reported 3rd quarter consolidated earnings of $1.20 per share, including electric company earnings of $1.22 per share And a loss to the holding company of $0.02 Our solid performance this quarter is due to operational excellence delivered by Our team who work to keep energy flowing to the grid during a hot summer, while setting a new hourly peak on August 21st and without calling for public conservation that was seen in other areas of the country.

Speaker 2

I shared before that our system was designed, Built and operated for conditions like we saw this summer, and I'm proud of our team for always meeting our customers' need for reliable and safe electricity and always keeping affordability top of mind. The 3rd quarter was highly productive and reflects the work we've undertaken to operate as a premium electric utility company with exceptional execution, a constructive regulatory environment and one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry. We are operating ahead of plan this year, and as a result, we are raising guidance. Brian will share a few more details on that in just a bit. We have a wide variety of investment opportunities before us.

Speaker 2

And with the recent announcement that OG and E was awarded a federal grant From the Department of Energy for our adaptable grid project, we look forward to improving the reliability and resiliency for customers living in more than 100 communities. The total project cost is $102,000,000 and OG and E was one of 34 companies awarded grants under this program And one of only 6 to receive the maximum grant amount of $50,000,000 This project will deliver reduced outages and outage time for our customers and at half the cost. We have 2 additional grant proposals under review with the department and look forward to hearing back on those before the end of the year. You may recall last year at this time, I shared that our team was collaborating closely with school districts in our service area to apply for federal funds For districts to acquire electric school buses. Just last month, Shawnee Public Schools in Eastern Oklahoma was the 1st school district to take delivery of 5 EV school buses that were awarded to them through the grant program.

Speaker 2

In total, 28 buses were awarded to 8 communities in our service area, And we are working closely with the school districts to ensure their success in adding EV buses into their fleets, furthering the electrification in our service territory. Our customer centered efforts continue as we announced a significant reduction in the cost of fuel on our customers' bill just yesterday to the tune of $21 per month for the average residential customer. That relentless focus on affordability Results in some of the lowest electric rates in the country for our customers, which just got even lower and continues to pay off As our service area continues to grow, broad business expansion with sectors as diverse as healthcare, defense, Tribal Development, Manufacturing and Retail ensure healthy economies for the future and job growth across the board. Our 2023 load forecast delivers robust year over year growth, well above our historical growth rate. Our long term load forecast remains strong as our service area continues to grow.

Speaker 2

On the regulatory front, we finalized an uncontested settlement with stakeholders to add new generation to our Horseshoe Lake Commissioned to begin construction on these units, and we filed our final formula rate plan update in Arkansas. Looking forward, we will file a rate review in Oklahoma by the end of the year and also we will submit an integrated resource plan in the Q1 of 2024, outlining a plan to meet our capacity needs over the next several years. We expect continued constructive regulatory outcomes in both Oklahoma And Arkansas. Turning to our internal operations. We know our employee experiences drives our customer experience, And we were delighted to be named the number one employer in the state of Oklahoma by Forbes Magazine.

Speaker 2

We were number 2 last year And our continued efforts to nurture a culture where employees learn, develop, succeed and feel that important sense of belonging show in these results. Our team is purpose driven, energizing life for our nearly 900,000 customers every day. I'm so very proud of the men and women who work for OG and E and their continued dedication to our purpose. And finally, I want to leave you with a few thoughts. Number 1, service.

Speaker 2

Our obligation to equally serve each customer, whether a large industrial operation or a single residential customer at the end of a 179 mile circuit drives our team to success and stability. We continue to build our business for today and to continue to build it for the future By delivering reliable and affordable electricity 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. And with these priorities in mind, We will evaluate all of the investment opportunities before us and we'll execute the projects and make investments that support our focus on reliability and affordability to help us manage the load growth we have coming. Thank you. And I'll now turn the call over to Brian.

Speaker 2

Brian?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Jason, and good morning, everyone. Let's start on Slide 7 and discuss Q3 2023 results. On a consolidated basis, net income was $242,000,000 or $1.20 per diluted share compared to $263,000,000 or $1.31 per share in the same period 2022. Earnings for the Q3 of last year included net income of $0.08 per share from natural gas midstream operations, Which we fully exited in 2022 through the sale of our energy transfer units.

Speaker 3

Core electric utility operations performed well this quarter. The electric company achieved net income of $246,000,000 or $1.22 per diluted share compared to 253,000,000 or $1.26 per share in the same period of 2022. The decrease in electric company net income Was primarily due to fewer cooling degree days compared to the Q3 of last year as well as expected increased depreciation and interest expense Related to our capital investments, offset by solid weather normal load growth and higher operating revenues from recovery of capital investments. Other operations, including our holding company, reported a loss of $4,000,000 or $0.02 per diluted share

Speaker 4

in the

Speaker 3

Q3 compared to a loss of 6,000,000 or $0.03 per share in the same period 2022. Now let's turn to Slide 8 for our refreshed EPS forecast for full year 2023. It has been an excellent year thus far for the company. From a consolidated basis, we now expect to earn $2.02 to $2.07 per diluted share. The midpoint of this refreshed guidance is about $0.05 higher than our initial forecast, driven by outstanding performance at our electric company and holding company results reflecting the current interest rate environment.

Speaker 3

As I've indicated to you in previous quarters, the tailwinds at The Electric Company continue to outpace interest cost expectations, Setting us up very well for 2024 and beyond. Turning to electricity usage factors on Slide 9. OG and E continues to experience solid growth in weather normalized load, which increased approximately 2% compared to the Q3 2022. We are forecasting full year weather normalized load growth of 3% to 3.5% and are on track for 2 consecutive years of at least 3% growth and 3 years of better than 2% growth. We are proud of the sustained level of tremendous economic development and load growth until we are just getting started.

Speaker 3

For example, looking forward to 2024, we continue to refine our estimates and are becoming more and more confident in our ability to once again Deliver load growth in excess of 1% we had historically experienced. As Sean mentioned, our pipeline of business customer expansion includes many industries. And when you consider the significant reduction in fuel rates referenced earlier, we believe business interest in OG and E service area We'll continue to be robust for the next several years. I'll wrap up on Slide 10 for an update on our financial position. Our balance sheet continues to be one of the best in the industry with no need to issue equity for our current capital forecast, a projected FFO to debt metric of 17.5% to 18% and relatively low interest rate risk with no fixed rate maturities until 2027.

Speaker 3

Our balance sheet places us in a position of strength as we evaluate a broad spectrum of incremental investment opportunities related to T and D and generation investments and with our eyes on the North Star of a reliable, resilient and safe power We look forward to providing 2024 and long term consolidated earnings guidance and an updated 5 year capital and financing plan during our 4th quarter call in February. It is a privilege to be part of a company with significant potential for growth in both load and critical infrastructure, positioning us to support our customers and to sustain economic expansion while delivering strong earnings growth for years to come. Before we open the call for your questions, let me speak to you regarding the fuel recovery balance as of September 30, which stood at $53,000,000 compared to the beginning of the year balance $515,000,000 The sustained lower prices of natural gas during the last few months allowed us to lower residential and business customer rates substantially and many months ahead of schedule. As Sean mentioned, all of our customers in Oklahoma will see a very meaningful reduction in the rates beginning this month. For example, residential customers will experience an average reduction on their monthly bills of 15% or $21 And the rate reduction for business customers ranges from 14% to 36%.

Speaker 3

These reductions in customer rates firmly position the company Having some of the lowest rates in the nation and place OG and E in a highly competitive position as we compete for business expansion opportunities in the region. With our eyes set on the future, we are proud of our employees' accomplishments in 2023 and we look forward to delivering for our customers, communities and shareholders for years to come. With that, we will open the line for your questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please standby while we compile the Q and A roster. Our first question comes from Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, everybody. It's actually Nathan Richardson on for Nick.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 5

I was just wondering if How you're thinking about parent drag for 2024 based on funding for the upcoming CapEx, which could move a little bit higher? If you could give any more color on the parent drag that would be great.

Speaker 2

You want to take that Brian? Sure. Good morning, Nathan.

Speaker 3

So I'm really glad you asked that question. The utility and holding company are lining up very well for 2024 and beyond. And you've heard us speak to the many tailwinds at the Utility, namely very strong load growth and a host of incremental infrastructure investment needs. So So I'm expecting Utility to grow near the top end of that range and the whole company will be there to finance the business along the way. So we don't view it as a drag.

Speaker 3

We view it as all And incorporated business there. So again, tailwinds are really strong and we'll provide a concise consolidated view of OG and E's financial on our February call. And to be clear, we're really excited to do so. So again, more to come in February.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's all I had. Thank you very much.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning, team. It's actually Constantine here for Char. Congrats on a good

Speaker 2

quarter. Hey, thank you. Good morning, Constantine. Glad to hear from you this morning.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Thank you. Maybe just a follow-up on the prior question, the update on the 4Q for CapEx. There Seems to be more tailwinds from a 2023 run rate basis of $880,000,000 year to date. And Just maybe how are you thinking about the different kind of options, especially in light of kind of what Nick mentioned the interest rate Volatility that we've seen is dividend policy up for reconsideration and maybe just as we think about the cadence The major rate case, does that factor into what goes into the 4Q update or versus something that comes after the outcome?

Speaker 2

Yes. Constantine, this is Sean. I think all those points that you raised are considerations we Factor into our decision making all the time. And so those aren't new developments or anything like that. We've said previously, we have a lot of flexibility In terms of the investment opportunities we have, we've conducted a lot of engineering and planning for these opportunities and We're able to move a lot of things around.

Speaker 2

The majority of our investments around the distribution network, so those are very quick Investments we're making are not long tenured over multi years. It is our intention to continue to File, rate reviews. We have the formula rate plan in Arkansas and we're working on that in Oklahoma, but we're going to remain current on our regulatory filing. And our dividend policy hasn't changed in terms of targeting a payout ratio of 65% to 70%. So We're going to continue to manage the business for the long term and we're going to we've got the flexibility to draw Different investments in and move things around to continue that this continue what we've been doing, just executing and delivering results.

Speaker 6

Excellent. Good to have the flexibility. And maybe also touching on the load growth And the visibility for economic development, can you comment on the drivers for the slightly lower forecast in 2023? Is there any margin impact that you see and ultimately as we're getting to the tail end of the 2023, how does that translate into 20 24 expectations and Some of the low shifting to 24.

Speaker 3

Brian, you want to cover that one? Sure, sure. Good morning, Konstantin. On both, we're really proud of our 2023 results. It's phenomenal to be 3% growth again on top of the 3% growth we had in 2% and the 2.5% growth we had in 2021 and our 2 largest customer segments, residential and commercial are Early in line with what we had for expectations, which were really high.

Speaker 3

So that's been a it's been a great year for us. Our pipeline of business expansion isn't just going into 2024, but we see it Adding incrementally 2024, 2025 all the way throughout a 5 year forecast period, We have good vision to it really through 2028. I mentioned this on the last call, but our Head of Customer Sales Continues to reiterate to me that our pipeline is as expansive and as strong as he's ever seen it, perhaps as strong as our company has ever seen. So a great story there and we look forward to giving you more details in February, but definitely expect it to be above 1% again.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Glenn. Appreciate the time today.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Constantine. Have a great day. Take care.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Travis Miller with Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 4

I'll ask the follow-up to the follow-up, if you don't mind, and maybe even Simpler. I know you're not giving 2024 guidance here, but could you lay out simply the bullet points either Quantitatively, if you will or qualitatively, that would be the year over year types of drivers. Obviously, you talked about load growth. What else is kind of in the mix?

Speaker 2

Well, I think primarily it's going to be driven by load growth And we will invest around that load growth. And I mentioned before that we will file make a filing in Oklahoma And we've made a filing under our formula rate plan in Arkansas. So I would point to those 3 drivers for you.

Speaker 4

Okay. What's the timing in terms of rates adjustments and your thoughts around getting the Oklahoma case done in In terms of 2024 earnings?

Speaker 2

Yes. Typically, that's about 180 days. So you would think midsummer.

Speaker 4

Okay, okay. Great. And then on the Holdco level, what's your sensitivity to interest rates? If you have Plus or minus 100 basis points or 50 basis points, about what is that impact on earnings?

Speaker 3

Brian? Sure. Good morning, Travis. On the holding company interest, what we've pointed to is an expectation that That could grow $0.03 or $0.04 into next year, but we need to refresh all that. That's the only guidance we've given.

Speaker 3

That's a little stale on the guidance front, but That's not a bad rule of thumb. So we'll continue to refine that estimate. But again, that's just one part of a really strong business model for us, which is mostly inclusive of our utility. And we feel, as I mentioned before, very bullish on utilities Growth prospects for all the reasons we've talked about today. So give us a little more time and we're going to lay out all this on a consolidated basis for you in February.

Speaker 4

Sure thing. No, that's very helpful. I appreciate it. That's all I have. Have a great day.

Speaker 3

You too.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Tanner James with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 7

Hi. Just following up on Constantine's question on load growth. Within the commercial load bucket, What are you seeing relative to when you issued expectations at the beginning of the year? And are there any items perhaps on the data center front or other large customers that We could look at as potentially providing extended upside relative to your expectation.

Speaker 3

Brian? Hey, good morning, Tanner. And, yes, our initial expectations for the Commercial segment in 2023 was a growth of 11% to 15%, which is No, really high growth rate, but also a range there that was pretty expansive given it's hard to Estimate when some of these large loads are the exact month they're going to come in, for example. And We're kind of right on it. We're 13.5% year to date.

Speaker 3

We're 9.5%, 10% in the Q3 year over year. So we'll probably land somewhere around 12% to 13% in commercial for the full year, which is right in the range we expected. As you look to 'twenty four and beyond, it's easy to see that that's going to be really strong growth in 'twenty four again for commercial. Just The extension of the growth we started in 2022 carried over into 2023. It should carry over in 2024 as well.

Speaker 3

Some of that is Bitcoin data mining as you mentioned, but we do have other industries that are expanding. Sean mentioned those on the call. Data centers that are more around the generative AI, which is as we've all seen is impacting every industry in this company In this country, sorry. So every industry across United States are using data centers to do work that they've never used before. And quite honestly, the big companies that do this in the United States have run out of capacity.

Speaker 3

So we're seeing tremendous request for a load in our system tapping into our grid. And as we look forward to serving that in a responsible way going forward.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. And then lastly, I just had a more of a procedural type question regarding Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas. Would the formal CPCN filing occur basically at the level when construction is completed? What's the precedent and typical timeline for the commission's Review in this situation.

Speaker 2

Yes. Typically, we go to them and we've already received the approval to begin construction. So that's the requirement in Arkansas. And then when it's complete, we will file that in our subsequent filings for recovery, They're allocated portion of it.

Speaker 6

All right, great. Thanks. That's all I had.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Alex Mortimer with Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hi, team. Good morning.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 4

So as we

Speaker 8

look for you to file your rate case in Oklahoma next Sure. I was hoping you could touch a little bit on the Oklahoma regulatory environment. I know you mentioned a potential increase in your CapEx plan in the coming years. So maybe just a little bit more color On the support you see from regulators as you look to continue to expand your spending in the coming years, as this has to work its way into rates?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think we find the Oklahoma Commission very constructive, Evidenced by the number of settlements and agreements and constructive orders we've received over the last number of years. As I look at things, affordability is front and center. And so when you have that leading the charge and We spoke to that on our comments here about the fuel reduction. That's a big tailwind.

Speaker 2

And we're going to make this Filing here at the end of the year and that's going to give us a lot of flexibility and gives us a lot of confidence heading into this rate filing. So See no change in the constructive nature and constructive outcomes we've received.

Speaker 8

Okay, wonderful. Thanks so much. Look forward to the 4Q update.

Speaker 2

Take care.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Paul Fremont with Ladenburg. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thank you very much. How should investors look at potential construction of new generation opportunities Beyond Horseshoe Lake. So in other words, would it more likely be gas? Would it be renewables? Can you give us a sense of what the possible mix of additional generation might look like?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Paul. This is Sean. We'll certainly run through a lot of scenarios in our next IRP filing. I believe in looking at a lot of different scenarios.

Speaker 2

Obviously, you have a lot of EPA regulations that are in various stages of Development and so you want to incorporate different scenarios for that. But what I've said in the past is going forward, Until there is a dispatchable economic, long duration generation resource available, I think you're going to see our generation mix of new generation look like gas and solar.

Speaker 9

Got it. And would that be would it be sort of safe to assume fifty-fifty in terms of percentages?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think that's TBD, but I think that's a good way to think about it.

Speaker 9

Great. And then longer term, you're obviously at an extremely strong FFO to debt level today. Longer term, how should we think about your FFO to debt goal?

Speaker 2

Brian, you want to take that? Sure.

Speaker 3

Yes. Good morning, Paul. And as we mentioned, our metrics Stand today at 17.5% to 18%. And we're a company that wants to always take care of our balance sheet and make sure We keep the company in a good solid position, so you're never going to see us living on edge at 13%, 14%. So we're going to be mindful of that as we build out our CapEx plan into the future.

Speaker 3

Obviously, we do have some room to add some capital Without the need to issue equity, but we'll continue to refine those estimates and we'll take care of this balance sheet and balance it all, whether it's Capital investments, affordability, our credit metrics, all those matter and we'll continue to balance it in the right way.

Speaker 9

And maybe as a follow-up to that, what on incremental CapEx that's not sort of currently in your budget, What percent of equity should investors assume will be used to support incremental investment?

Speaker 3

You go ahead, John.

Speaker 2

Yes. Paul, we'll lay all that out at the appropriate time. I mean, I think Brian was Really clear there that we've got a plan to meet our earnings objectives and it doesn't require any equity. And anything we do above and beyond that, That will be growth equity, but I don't think that needs to I don't want to get ahead of ourselves in terms of Rolling all this out in February.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you so much and congratulations on a strong quarter.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Paul. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn it back to Sean Trasky for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Andrea, and thank you all for being with us today and your interest in OG Energy Corp. And we are adjourned. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect.

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