NASDAQ:OSW OneSpaWorld Q3 2023 Earnings Report $18.50 -0.18 (-0.96%) Closing price 05/23/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$18.48 -0.02 (-0.08%) As of 05/23/2025 04:34 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast OneSpaWorld EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.12Consensus EPS $0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/AOneSpaWorld Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$216.27 millionExpected Revenue$209.48 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.79 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AOneSpaWorld Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/1/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, November 1, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsOneSpaWorld's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by OneSpaWorld Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 1, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the OneSpa World Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Alison Malkin of ICR. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to OneSpa World's 3rd quarter 2023 earnings common webcast. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that certain statements and information made available on today's call and webcast may be deemed to constitute forward looking statements. These forward looking statements reflect our judgment and analysis only as of today, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting our business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:12For a more thorough discussion of the risks And uncertainties associated with the forward looking statements to be made in this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward looking statements That is included in our Q3 2023 earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today on Form 8 ks. We do not undertake any obligation to update or alter any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, the company may refer to certain adjusted non GAAP metrics on this call. An explanation of these metrics can be found in our earnings release issued earlier this morning. Joining me today are Leonard Fluxman, Executive Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President and Steven Lazarus, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Speaker 100:02:08Leonard will begin with a review of our Q3 2023 performance and provide an update on our operations and our key priorities. Then Stephen will provide more details on the financials and our fiscal year 2023 guidance. I would now like to turn the call over to Leonard. Speaker 200:02:28Thank you, Alison. Good morning, and welcome to 1 SpA World's 3rd quarter 2023 results conference call. I'm delighted to speak to you today and share another quarter of strong results, which once again exceeded our expectations. The Q3 saw us maintain our positive momentum with stellar performance across key financial and operational metrics, driven by our unwavering focus on the execution of our key priorities. To this end, we continue to introduce innovative Product and offerings empower our cruise ship staff to provide unsurpassed service levels Drive efficiencies through technology enhancements, introduce our health and wellness centers, our new ship builds and win new contracts. Speaker 200:03:21As a result, we achieved our best ever third quarter revenue income from operations and adjusted EBITDA and raised our full year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance by more than the outperformance we delivered in this quarter. As we look ahead, we are very encouraged By the healthy demand environment we are seeing, customers around the world continue to appreciate the unparalleled value proposition, cruising offers and our strategies are driving strong demand. Touching on performance highlights of the 3rd quarter. Total revenues grew 33%, reaching a record $216,300,000 And adjusted EBITDA increased 36% to a record $24,900,000 The expansion in our ship count continued in the quarter. At the end of the third quarter, we had health and wellness centers On 189 ships compared with 176 ships at the end of the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 200:04:31At year end, we now expect to have in service 193 ships, including 10 new builds introduced throughout 2023. We saw strength across key operating metrics, including a 22% increase In average weekly revenue per ship as compared to the Q3 last year, high single digit increases in average guest spend and a low single digit increase in revenue per shipboard start per day. Penetration of retail sales and pre bookings also continued to improve. We continue to remain highly focused on supporting our operations at sea. Our ongoing initiatives to have Experienced staff return for subsequent contracts is exhibiting greater success and we expect Our proportion of experienced staff members in the Q1 of 2024 to surpass the level of experienced staff members in 2019. Speaker 200:05:33At quarter end, we had 3,927 cruise ship personnel on vessels increasing from 3,813 And 3,087 cruise ship personnel on vessels at the end of the Q2 of 2023 in the Q3 of 2022 respectively. We also have 24 traveling sales and revenue staff members Year to date have made 4 92 ship visits, equating to 3,271 days of sailing with their primary focus to enhance onboard productivity. Now I'll review and update our key priorities that we shared with you earlier this year. 1st, capture highly visible new ship growth with current cruise line partners. Our cruise line partners continue to introduce new ships, which adds to our growth. Speaker 200:06:31In the quarter, we introduced health and wellness centers on 6 new ships, Including 2 Crystal cruise vessels, Crystal Serenity and Crystal Symphony as part of the new agreement announced earlier this year And one vessel as part of a new agreement with Adora Cruises, which is a new Chinese American cruise line. We continue to expect to introduce health and wellness centers on 12 ship builds this year. 2nd, continue launching higher value services and products. We continue to focus on introducing exciting products And services, which are in various stages of implementation, including IV therapy, immunity protocols and facial turning devices. 3rd, focusing on enhancing health and wellness center productivity. Speaker 200:07:27Highlights of our achievements in this regard include high Single to double digit increases across average guest spend, pre booking as a percent of service revenue, Revenue per staff per day and in retail spend as compared to Q3 of 2019 And 4th, expanding market share by adding new potential cruise line partners. We have room to grow our 90 plus percent market share in the outsourced maritime health and wellness market as evidenced by recent new contract wins Virgin Voyages, Oceania Cruises, Regent 7 Sea Cruises, Celebrity Cruises and most recently Adora Cruises. We are very excited about our business prospects into the Q4 and in 2024 and beyond. Our Q4 2023 performance Is off to a strong start despite it being a seasonally softer period for cruise operators as they reposition their fleets for the winter cruising season. In light of our outperformance so far in the year And current business trends, we have raised our annual guidance for the 3rd time this year with our fiscal year outlook increased beyond the amount we surpassed Q3 expectations. Speaker 200:08:48As a result, for fiscal year 2023, we now Expect total revenues to increase by 45% and adjusted EBITDA to increase by 73% versus fiscal year 2022 at the midpoint of our guidance ranges. Finally, before I turn the call over to Steven, I want to convey that our hearts go out to all that have been impacted by the war in the Middle East, the ongoing war in Ukraine and the innocent lives lost. In response, the cruise lines have altered or canceled certain itineraries. However, we do not expect this to have a Speaker 300:09:32Thank you, Leonard. Good morning, everyone. We are pleased to report strong 3rd quarter results and continued momentum across our key operational and financial metrics as well as improvements to our balance sheet. I will now share more details on our Q3 that we reported this morning. Total revenues were $216,300,000 an increase of 33% from $162,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 300:10:04The increase was attributable to our average ship count increasing 11% to 185 health and wellness centers onboard ships operating during the quarter compared with an average ship count of 167 Health and Wellness Centers onboard ships operating during the Q3 of 2022 and our initiatives to drive revenue growth in each of our onboard health and wellness centers through enhanced guest engagement and experiences. Our guest service and product offering innovations And the disciplined execution of our complex operating protocols by our onboard and corporate teams. Cost of services were $146,100,000 compared to $110,600,000 in the Q3 of 2022. The increase was primarily attributable to costs associated with increased service revenues $175,800,000 in the quarter from our operating health and wellness centers at sea and on land compared with service revenue of 132 point $25,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. This increase was primarily attributable to costs associated with increased product revenues of $40,400,000 in the quarter from our operating health and wellness centers at sea and on land compared to product revenues of $29,500,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 300:11:42Product costs in the Q3 of 2023 benefited from retail price increases implemented on board vessels ahead of an increase in the cost of those products. This resulted in an 60 basis point margin improvement in the quarter. Net income was $23,400,000 or net income per diluted share of 0.06p in the Q3 of 2022. The $17,500,000 increase Was primarily attributable to the $7,100,000 positive change in the fair value of warrant liabilities, A $7,100,000 positive change in income from operations and a $3,400,000 decrease In uncertain tax benefits related to foreign tax exposure as a result of the company's participation in a tax amnesty program in Italy settled in August 2023. The change in fair value of outstanding warrants During the 3 months ended September 30, 'twenty three, was a gain of $7,400,000 compared to a gain of $300,000 during the 3 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:13:05The change in fair value of warrant liabilities was the result of changes in market prices of our common stock and other observable inputs deriving the fair value of the financial instruments. Adjusted net income increased 75 percent to $22,000,000 or adjusted net income per diluted share of 0.22p as compared to adjusted net income of $12,500,000 or adjusted net income per diluted share of $0.13 in the Q3 of last year. Adjusted EBITDA increased 36 percent to $24,900,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $18,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Turning to the balance sheet. Total cash at September 30, 2023 Was $28,000,000 compared to $30,000,000 at June 23 after giving effect to repayment of $20,000,000 on our 1st lien term loan during the quarter. Speaker 300:14:06Total debt, net of deferred financing fees at September 30 $163,000,000 compared to $223,000,000 at September 30, 2022. The decrease primarily resulted from the full repayment of $25,000,000 on the 2nd lien term loan And the $36,600,000 repayment on the 1st lien term loan since September 30 last year. In the Q3, we repaid $20,000,000 on our 1st lien term loan. And as a result, since the Q2 of 20 22, we have repaid a total of $69,100,000 in debt instruments. Unlevered after tax free cash flow was 60 $2,200,000 compared to $26,100,000 in the 9 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:14:59The company expects to continue to generate positive cash flow from operations in the Q4 of 2023 throughout 2024. Moving on to our guidance. We are increasing our fiscal year guidance for the 3rd time this year to reflect Our better than expected Q3 performance and our expectations for the Q4. For fiscal 'twenty three, we now expect Total revenues in the range of $792,000,000 to $797,000,000 At the midpoint, this represents an increase of 45 from the actual fiscal 2022 revenues of $546,300,000 Adjusted EBITDA is now expected in the range of 86 to $88,000,000 At the midpoint, this represents an increase of 73% from actual fiscal 2022 adjusted EBITDA of $50,400,000 We expect to end fiscal 2023 operating on 193 cruise ships and at 54 land based resource. For the Q4, we expect total revenue in the range of $193,000,000 to $198,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $20,000,000 to $22,000,000 Overall, we feel confident about our position and growth initiatives. Speaker 300:16:22We are encouraged by the momentum in the business and expect to continue our successful growth In the near and medium term. With that, we'll open up call for questions. Please, operator? Operator00:16:37Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up and you may re queue for further questions. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Gregory Miller with Truist. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:15Thank you. Good morning. I'd like to start off with service pricing. Could you share your current views on pricing Heading into the 4Q holidays and if possible into next year, have you seen any pressure points in consumer spend That may impact if or how much you may raise pricing over the next year? Speaker 200:17:38Yes. Good morning, Greg. We've actually seen very little pressure on pricing at all. We're We continue to hold pricing where we've had it, discounting only on shoulder days where necessary, but certainly not below Our increased level, so there's still Hallmark pricing on a couple of services on some banners. And we will We reintroduce Walmart pricing through the Christmas New Year period across most of banners. Speaker 200:18:13So right now, As we said, our ships are, or should I say, the cruise lines are repositioning their ships, longer cruises, etcetera. So still have not seen pressure on pricing thus far. So we're in good shape. Speaker 400:18:31Excellent to hear. Thanks. And then for the follow-up, I thought I'd ask you about the commentary you're providing about your staff, your experienced staff returning at higher levels than in the past. Could you discuss what is driving that better return to see trend? Speaker 200:18:49So as we've mentioned perhaps on prior calls and it's Something we wanted to call out this call, experienced staff tend to produce at a much higher level. Definitely after 2.5, 3 contracts, We see the productivity improve, retail attachment improve, and just the experience level and then ultimately and move them up into management if they're capable of such a move. We continue to reinforce training. We continue Take care of their well-being on board. They're busy. Speaker 200:19:25They're doing well. This is definitely an incredible environment for them to earn money and save money the extent that they wish to do that, given that most of the expenses on board are taken care of. So We're starting to see that retention number improve and with that comes greater experience and greater productivity. Speaker 400:19:52Thanks very much. Speaker 200:19:54Sure. Operator00:19:57Our next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:03Yes. Hey, guys. Good morning. So, Leonard, I think you heard I think I heard you correctly that you talked about how the Q4 is already off to seems like a pretty strong start. If that's the case, is it fair to think the trends that you witnessed through October were essentially running at similar levels to what you witnessed during the Q3? Speaker 500:20:24I guess what I'm just trying to understand here, has there been any real change in spend levels? And then maybe how the quarter Played out from a sequential standpoint. Speaker 200:20:37Yes. Because the Q3, Steve, Spend and a bunch of other metrics were extremely strong. I mean, as you know, the second and third quarter tend to be that way, but we actually saw improvements In average guest spend, staff utilization as the Q3 starts, as the Q3 starts With the longer cruises, it can go up and down just depending on how long those cruises are. But We're very, very encouraged by what we've seen even at the beginning of what we term the softer quarter As these ships reposition into new itineraries back to the Caribbean, back from Alaska, out of the Mediterranean and troubled areas. And so From what we've seen to date, I'm very encouraged by what I've seen so far in October. Speaker 200:21:30So yes, it Continues to hold, a strong pattern of demand. Speaker 500:21:37Got you. Thanks for that. And Look, I know it's early. I know you're not prepared to give 2024 guidance yet. But as we look into next year, Is there anything we should be thinking about in terms of seasonality or other factors that potentially could whether that's help or whether that's hurt operating performance, as we just kind of think about 2024 more from a big picture perspective? Speaker 200:22:08Not that I can see. I mean, I look at the close in bookings from the cruise lines, demand pricing, 60% to 65% booked through 2024. I mean, I guess we'll hear more from the cruise lines as they report, but certainly as we heard From Royal and NCL today, it seems that demand continues to be strong. And look, the value that Cruising today provides guests in a somewhat inflationary environment is still an incredible Vacation and value vacation. We continue to see demand for our services. Speaker 200:22:47We Continue to see the cruise lines focus more on the pre booking in, which we know guests spend more if they pre book. And I think The collaboration that we are experiencing with our cruise line banners and partners is at a level where they're seeing the benefits 2 from that pre booking. So I think we'll see them focus more on that. Outside of things, we just can't control, Steve, geopolitical events. As you know, Cruise lines will cancel and move away from travel, which they've started doing or have done already. Speaker 200:23:20I don't see Outside of anything macro that's out there, things that could sort of change my view On the demand for cruising, which seems to be outperforming any other vacation experience to date. Speaker 500:23:39Okay. Got you. Makes sense. Thank you very much, Leonard. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:23:43Of course. Thanks, Steve. Operator00:23:47Your next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:23:52Hi, good morning. I guess I'm curious on the revenue per staff per day. I mean it's holding at extremely high levels, particularly when you look at Kind of what you were doing pre pandemic. And I'm wondering if at this point, as you look forward, is the main opportunity in continuing to increase The revenue per staff per day or is it by adding more staff? I'm trying to figure out kind of how high Realistically, we could think about that revenue per staff per day going kind of on an annual basis. Speaker 600:24:26I know there's seasonality there. Speaker 200:24:31Tough question, but a good one, Sharon. So we continue to focus Sales and revenue staff that, as I mentioned, are out there all the time. Today, with the data, the metrics we have, we can really drill down and see Who is not performing? Where the underperformance is coming from? Which modality we need to shore up? Speaker 200:24:52I think the team has done an excellent job Throughout this year and in the last two quarters of last year is focusing on the underperformance and raising them to the level of the higher performance. So we want to get everybody up to As and B pluses. I think our team is doing an excellent job focusing on that and we have the data now Where we can see it earlier than we've ever done before and that was all the preparation that we did in the pre pandemic period and pandemic period. I think execution is a function of vigilance, earlier retrieval of data, Acting on that data and reinforcing training where it's needed. So we will balance staff across different itineraries As needed. Speaker 200:25:43And we will make sure that the balance is there, so that staff continue To be busy, we don't want them not to be busy, but we also want them to have the requisite rest that they need. So yes, it's a continued balancing act. At the same time, our focus in 2024 is going to be looking at what is the best use of stock? Do we have One less massage therapist and add somebody in our MediSpa or acupuncture, which is outperforming. So We want to make sure that we're putting the right staff on the right ship for the right itinerary for the right demographic. Speaker 200:26:20I think that will continue to support Revenue per staff per day into 2024. Speaker 600:26:27Thanks for that. And then I guess a follow-up question on debt. I mean it seems like Just given the trends in the business that you're going to delever pretty quickly, in 2024 and probably could be debt free at some point in 2025. I just want to level set that, Stephen, if that's kind of a realistic outlook because I assume that keeping debt on the balance sheet is not Kind of very advantageous for you given your kind of tax free status. Speaker 300:26:59Correct. Broadly speaking, that is absolutely the case. We do have a portion of the debt That we allocate to the U. S, which helps where we do therefore get the interest leverage benefit from that. But Part of that, it really doesn't make sense, particularly at close to 10% interest rate. Speaker 300:27:19So debt pay down will continue to be a focus Of our excess cash flow. I do think that at a point in time, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, right? The company We'll get to a point where we will consider avenues for returning capital to shareholders as we deem appropriate. Operator00:27:41Yes. Thank you. The next question comes from Max Roecklenko with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:27:53Great. Thanks a lot and nice job in the quarter. So you called out a number of key initiatives and priorities. Can you rank them in order of magnitude? And any key unlocks we should be looking for? Speaker 200:28:13Max, we're always looking obviously for market share pickups, right? There's not that many out there. We still continue to focus on that. We did pick up one more. At the end of the day, It could be perhaps focusing on other segments of cruising, whether it be river cruising, maybe there's more to pick up there, albeit that the ships are smaller, Well, they're even smaller than what we have on some of the small luxury ships. Speaker 200:28:39So, we focus on where the opportunity is. We think There could be some forthcoming, but it's too early to say What we're working on and what we'll develop, right? So I would say market share and new ship introductions continue to be a high priority. But at the same time, we want to focus on productivity at the same time as launching and Expanding our menus on board, particularly in the wellness and medi spa area, and that's going to be a focus over the next 2 years. And I would say that that's a key focus of ours is how we can augment that, how we can increase our footprint, how we can increase More staff by convincing the cruise lines that there's definitely an opportunity there given the high ticket prices. Speaker 200:29:32And ultimately, to the extent that we can move those two modalities to a higher level of Participation in our total gross revenue, that's obviously going to help expand revenue opportunities on board, The 135 ships that we have MediSpa on. Speaker 700:29:53Got it. That's very helpful. And then can you speak to the level of conservatism embedded in the 4Q guidance as data from the cruisers seem to suggest that you are being quite modest in your outlook? Speaker 200:30:12Look, I don't want to get too far ahead of us because we've raised guidance, I think, in my mind accurately to the And that we have an opportunity in this sort of softer quarter to outperform, so be it. There's still a lot of Bowls in the air that who knows what happens. But I just feel that, Gosh, we've raised guidance each quarter since we popped out of the Q1. I think, if you've known us long enough, We definitely a little bit on conservatism in case something does sort of wobble around, but We're pretty confident about where this Q4 is going to end up. Speaker 700:30:57Got it. And just very quickly, any early thoughts on 2024 given such Strong bookings called out by your cruise partners. And just any learnings from this year that will help you, outperform next year? Speaker 200:31:13Max, it's early to start talking about 2024. We typically do that sort of The week of ICR will give a high level guidance and feel. We're still receiving inputs from the cruise lines with respect to change like terminatories, etcetera. There could be some changes until we totally circled the wagons here and everything. I think it's too early to comment at this juncture. Speaker 200:31:37But We'll have that guidance out typically as we do the 1st or second week of January. Speaker 700:31:45Got it. All right. Thanks a lot guys. Best regards and happy holidays. Speaker 200:31:50Thank you. You too. Operator00:31:54Our next question comes from Laura Champine with Loop Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:31:59Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted a little more detail on, there's a sense in the press Release about deploying enhanced technologies to drive productivity. Could you be more specific on what types of things you're referring to there? Speaker 200:32:21I think it's looking at Scheduling, it's the most important thing that we do as we look at scheduling the day we sail. Obviously, the 1st day, the embarkation day is very important. We look at that demand. We look at the pre booked demand. We look at where the gaps are and we focus on that. Speaker 200:32:42We have a lot more in our marketing toolkit that we use for promotions, etcetera bundling, Getting more and more people to have more frequent services as opposed to just one and all of that's paying off. Speaker 800:33:00Got it. And then a follow-up to a prior question. I mean, you've got We're looking at good looking bookings from the public companies. How different do the private cruise line Booking trends tend to be relative to public company booking trends. Speaker 200:33:24Look, overall load factors this year have moved very positively Across both the public and non public companies, they tend to move in lockstep. I would imagine it's the same. I mean, sometimes you've seen some of the higher end perhaps not move at the same level. But generally speaking, I would say the confidence that the cruise lines see around near end bookings and Into 2024 should be similar across the entire industry. Speaker 800:34:01Understood. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:03Yes. Operator00:34:07Our next question comes from Agio Giorgiawa with Inmity Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:34:15Good morning, guys. Excellent quarter. Great job. I had a couple of quick questions. First of all, one of your major cruise partners is Kind of going into more longer, more exotic itineraries, is that structural Change going to affect you in 2024? Speaker 900:34:39Or do you think, given possibly a higher Level revenue generating client that it shouldn't have an impact. Speaker 200:34:53In the scheme of the 180 to 193 ships that will be on in this year, I mean, We've had cruises move into those longer itineraries. We've had many more world cruises than we've seen in the last year. We still know that the sweet spot is obviously the 7 day market. So can it impact Some of the cruises, yes, a little bit. It will be built into our guidance next year if it's so I just don't see it being a material impact at all. Speaker 200:35:31I think it's more Companies moving back into more normalized itineraries as opposed to perhaps what they've had as they've come out the pandemic. So I don't see this being A big change from what we saw in 2019 where we had those cruises. Speaker 900:35:48All right. That's Good news. And kind of a related question, I think we will have more dry docks in 2024 than we would have Typically relative to 2019. That will probably be sort of a short term event, I would imagine. Speaker 200:36:10Yes, I agree. Yes, exactly. Speaker 900:36:13All right. And lastly, maybe, Stephen, you touched on this when you were answering Sharon's question. With debt repayment at Such significant levels, which is great and trying to get returning capital to shareholders. Are we thinking buybacks or possibly a dividend program? Speaker 300:36:40Both will be considered. Determination will be made depending on what the stock price is, what interest rates are, etcetera. So I think the Board and the company will try and make the best decision for our shareholders. Speaker 900:36:57Well, Stephen, that was a very diplomatic way of telling me I'm not going to answer this question. Speaker 200:37:05No, he's not saying that at all, Asiya. What he's really saying is, you can see the free cash flow generation from this company. You can see the rate at which we're paying down debt. Clearly, at some point, whether it be at the end Of 24, we'll have a much better idea of where we are on debt. Clearly, that's the best use of cash right now. Speaker 200:37:30And to the extent then that we continue to see the same optimism in our business, we will start to return capital In either of those forms. I don't think he's trying to be cute at all. Speaker 900:37:44Well, and I didn't mean it that way. I guess I was Speaker 200:37:49But he is a very good diplomat, I will say. Speaker 900:37:53Agreed. Thank you, guys. Again, great quarter and thank you so much for providing even better guidance for Q4. Speaker 200:38:04Of course. Thank you. Operator00:38:08This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to the management for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:38:16Right. I just to thank everybody for joining us on the call today. But before I leave, I just want to thank our entire leadership team It works so closely with us and all of our associates support staff for their steadfast And commitment to achieving the operational excellence evidenced by the 3rd quarter results And expected 4th quarter results. So thank you everybody. We look forward to speaking with you on the next quarter call.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways OneSpa World delivered record Q3 results with revenues of $216.3 million (up 33%) and adjusted EBITDA of $24.9 million (up 36%), prompting a third upward revision to full-year guidance to +45% revenue growth and +73% EBITDA growth. Health and wellness centers expanded to 189 ships at quarter-end (from 176 in Q3 2022), with 193 vessels—including 10 new builds—expected in service by year end; average weekly revenue per ship rose 22% year-over-year. The proportion of experienced cruise spa staff is rebounding and is projected to exceed 2019 levels by Q1 2024, driving higher productivity, guest spend and retail attachment rates. New outsourcing contracts with Virgin Voyages, Oceania, Regent Seven Seas, Celebrity and Adora Cruises reinforce OneSpa World’s >90% market share in maritime health and wellness services. Net debt fell by $60 million year-over-year to $163 million and positive unlevered free cash flow of $62.2 million YTD underpins ongoing debt repayment and potential future shareholder distributions. AI Generated. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the OneSpa World Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Alison Malkin of ICR. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to OneSpa World's 3rd quarter 2023 earnings common webcast. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that certain statements and information made available on today's call and webcast may be deemed to constitute forward looking statements. These forward looking statements reflect our judgment and analysis only as of today, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting our business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:12For a more thorough discussion of the risks And uncertainties associated with the forward looking statements to be made in this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward looking statements That is included in our Q3 2023 earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today on Form 8 ks. We do not undertake any obligation to update or alter any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, the company may refer to certain adjusted non GAAP metrics on this call. An explanation of these metrics can be found in our earnings release issued earlier this morning. Joining me today are Leonard Fluxman, Executive Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President and Steven Lazarus, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Speaker 100:02:08Leonard will begin with a review of our Q3 2023 performance and provide an update on our operations and our key priorities. Then Stephen will provide more details on the financials and our fiscal year 2023 guidance. I would now like to turn the call over to Leonard. Speaker 200:02:28Thank you, Alison. Good morning, and welcome to 1 SpA World's 3rd quarter 2023 results conference call. I'm delighted to speak to you today and share another quarter of strong results, which once again exceeded our expectations. The Q3 saw us maintain our positive momentum with stellar performance across key financial and operational metrics, driven by our unwavering focus on the execution of our key priorities. To this end, we continue to introduce innovative Product and offerings empower our cruise ship staff to provide unsurpassed service levels Drive efficiencies through technology enhancements, introduce our health and wellness centers, our new ship builds and win new contracts. Speaker 200:03:21As a result, we achieved our best ever third quarter revenue income from operations and adjusted EBITDA and raised our full year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance by more than the outperformance we delivered in this quarter. As we look ahead, we are very encouraged By the healthy demand environment we are seeing, customers around the world continue to appreciate the unparalleled value proposition, cruising offers and our strategies are driving strong demand. Touching on performance highlights of the 3rd quarter. Total revenues grew 33%, reaching a record $216,300,000 And adjusted EBITDA increased 36% to a record $24,900,000 The expansion in our ship count continued in the quarter. At the end of the third quarter, we had health and wellness centers On 189 ships compared with 176 ships at the end of the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 200:04:31At year end, we now expect to have in service 193 ships, including 10 new builds introduced throughout 2023. We saw strength across key operating metrics, including a 22% increase In average weekly revenue per ship as compared to the Q3 last year, high single digit increases in average guest spend and a low single digit increase in revenue per shipboard start per day. Penetration of retail sales and pre bookings also continued to improve. We continue to remain highly focused on supporting our operations at sea. Our ongoing initiatives to have Experienced staff return for subsequent contracts is exhibiting greater success and we expect Our proportion of experienced staff members in the Q1 of 2024 to surpass the level of experienced staff members in 2019. Speaker 200:05:33At quarter end, we had 3,927 cruise ship personnel on vessels increasing from 3,813 And 3,087 cruise ship personnel on vessels at the end of the Q2 of 2023 in the Q3 of 2022 respectively. We also have 24 traveling sales and revenue staff members Year to date have made 4 92 ship visits, equating to 3,271 days of sailing with their primary focus to enhance onboard productivity. Now I'll review and update our key priorities that we shared with you earlier this year. 1st, capture highly visible new ship growth with current cruise line partners. Our cruise line partners continue to introduce new ships, which adds to our growth. Speaker 200:06:31In the quarter, we introduced health and wellness centers on 6 new ships, Including 2 Crystal cruise vessels, Crystal Serenity and Crystal Symphony as part of the new agreement announced earlier this year And one vessel as part of a new agreement with Adora Cruises, which is a new Chinese American cruise line. We continue to expect to introduce health and wellness centers on 12 ship builds this year. 2nd, continue launching higher value services and products. We continue to focus on introducing exciting products And services, which are in various stages of implementation, including IV therapy, immunity protocols and facial turning devices. 3rd, focusing on enhancing health and wellness center productivity. Speaker 200:07:27Highlights of our achievements in this regard include high Single to double digit increases across average guest spend, pre booking as a percent of service revenue, Revenue per staff per day and in retail spend as compared to Q3 of 2019 And 4th, expanding market share by adding new potential cruise line partners. We have room to grow our 90 plus percent market share in the outsourced maritime health and wellness market as evidenced by recent new contract wins Virgin Voyages, Oceania Cruises, Regent 7 Sea Cruises, Celebrity Cruises and most recently Adora Cruises. We are very excited about our business prospects into the Q4 and in 2024 and beyond. Our Q4 2023 performance Is off to a strong start despite it being a seasonally softer period for cruise operators as they reposition their fleets for the winter cruising season. In light of our outperformance so far in the year And current business trends, we have raised our annual guidance for the 3rd time this year with our fiscal year outlook increased beyond the amount we surpassed Q3 expectations. Speaker 200:08:48As a result, for fiscal year 2023, we now Expect total revenues to increase by 45% and adjusted EBITDA to increase by 73% versus fiscal year 2022 at the midpoint of our guidance ranges. Finally, before I turn the call over to Steven, I want to convey that our hearts go out to all that have been impacted by the war in the Middle East, the ongoing war in Ukraine and the innocent lives lost. In response, the cruise lines have altered or canceled certain itineraries. However, we do not expect this to have a Speaker 300:09:32Thank you, Leonard. Good morning, everyone. We are pleased to report strong 3rd quarter results and continued momentum across our key operational and financial metrics as well as improvements to our balance sheet. I will now share more details on our Q3 that we reported this morning. Total revenues were $216,300,000 an increase of 33% from $162,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 300:10:04The increase was attributable to our average ship count increasing 11% to 185 health and wellness centers onboard ships operating during the quarter compared with an average ship count of 167 Health and Wellness Centers onboard ships operating during the Q3 of 2022 and our initiatives to drive revenue growth in each of our onboard health and wellness centers through enhanced guest engagement and experiences. Our guest service and product offering innovations And the disciplined execution of our complex operating protocols by our onboard and corporate teams. Cost of services were $146,100,000 compared to $110,600,000 in the Q3 of 2022. The increase was primarily attributable to costs associated with increased service revenues $175,800,000 in the quarter from our operating health and wellness centers at sea and on land compared with service revenue of 132 point $25,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. This increase was primarily attributable to costs associated with increased product revenues of $40,400,000 in the quarter from our operating health and wellness centers at sea and on land compared to product revenues of $29,500,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 300:11:42Product costs in the Q3 of 2023 benefited from retail price increases implemented on board vessels ahead of an increase in the cost of those products. This resulted in an 60 basis point margin improvement in the quarter. Net income was $23,400,000 or net income per diluted share of 0.06p in the Q3 of 2022. The $17,500,000 increase Was primarily attributable to the $7,100,000 positive change in the fair value of warrant liabilities, A $7,100,000 positive change in income from operations and a $3,400,000 decrease In uncertain tax benefits related to foreign tax exposure as a result of the company's participation in a tax amnesty program in Italy settled in August 2023. The change in fair value of outstanding warrants During the 3 months ended September 30, 'twenty three, was a gain of $7,400,000 compared to a gain of $300,000 during the 3 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:13:05The change in fair value of warrant liabilities was the result of changes in market prices of our common stock and other observable inputs deriving the fair value of the financial instruments. Adjusted net income increased 75 percent to $22,000,000 or adjusted net income per diluted share of 0.22p as compared to adjusted net income of $12,500,000 or adjusted net income per diluted share of $0.13 in the Q3 of last year. Adjusted EBITDA increased 36 percent to $24,900,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $18,300,000 in the Q3 of 2022. Turning to the balance sheet. Total cash at September 30, 2023 Was $28,000,000 compared to $30,000,000 at June 23 after giving effect to repayment of $20,000,000 on our 1st lien term loan during the quarter. Speaker 300:14:06Total debt, net of deferred financing fees at September 30 $163,000,000 compared to $223,000,000 at September 30, 2022. The decrease primarily resulted from the full repayment of $25,000,000 on the 2nd lien term loan And the $36,600,000 repayment on the 1st lien term loan since September 30 last year. In the Q3, we repaid $20,000,000 on our 1st lien term loan. And as a result, since the Q2 of 20 22, we have repaid a total of $69,100,000 in debt instruments. Unlevered after tax free cash flow was 60 $2,200,000 compared to $26,100,000 in the 9 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:14:59The company expects to continue to generate positive cash flow from operations in the Q4 of 2023 throughout 2024. Moving on to our guidance. We are increasing our fiscal year guidance for the 3rd time this year to reflect Our better than expected Q3 performance and our expectations for the Q4. For fiscal 'twenty three, we now expect Total revenues in the range of $792,000,000 to $797,000,000 At the midpoint, this represents an increase of 45 from the actual fiscal 2022 revenues of $546,300,000 Adjusted EBITDA is now expected in the range of 86 to $88,000,000 At the midpoint, this represents an increase of 73% from actual fiscal 2022 adjusted EBITDA of $50,400,000 We expect to end fiscal 2023 operating on 193 cruise ships and at 54 land based resource. For the Q4, we expect total revenue in the range of $193,000,000 to $198,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $20,000,000 to $22,000,000 Overall, we feel confident about our position and growth initiatives. Speaker 300:16:22We are encouraged by the momentum in the business and expect to continue our successful growth In the near and medium term. With that, we'll open up call for questions. Please, operator? Operator00:16:37Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up and you may re queue for further questions. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Gregory Miller with Truist. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:15Thank you. Good morning. I'd like to start off with service pricing. Could you share your current views on pricing Heading into the 4Q holidays and if possible into next year, have you seen any pressure points in consumer spend That may impact if or how much you may raise pricing over the next year? Speaker 200:17:38Yes. Good morning, Greg. We've actually seen very little pressure on pricing at all. We're We continue to hold pricing where we've had it, discounting only on shoulder days where necessary, but certainly not below Our increased level, so there's still Hallmark pricing on a couple of services on some banners. And we will We reintroduce Walmart pricing through the Christmas New Year period across most of banners. Speaker 200:18:13So right now, As we said, our ships are, or should I say, the cruise lines are repositioning their ships, longer cruises, etcetera. So still have not seen pressure on pricing thus far. So we're in good shape. Speaker 400:18:31Excellent to hear. Thanks. And then for the follow-up, I thought I'd ask you about the commentary you're providing about your staff, your experienced staff returning at higher levels than in the past. Could you discuss what is driving that better return to see trend? Speaker 200:18:49So as we've mentioned perhaps on prior calls and it's Something we wanted to call out this call, experienced staff tend to produce at a much higher level. Definitely after 2.5, 3 contracts, We see the productivity improve, retail attachment improve, and just the experience level and then ultimately and move them up into management if they're capable of such a move. We continue to reinforce training. We continue Take care of their well-being on board. They're busy. Speaker 200:19:25They're doing well. This is definitely an incredible environment for them to earn money and save money the extent that they wish to do that, given that most of the expenses on board are taken care of. So We're starting to see that retention number improve and with that comes greater experience and greater productivity. Speaker 400:19:52Thanks very much. Speaker 200:19:54Sure. Operator00:19:57Our next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:03Yes. Hey, guys. Good morning. So, Leonard, I think you heard I think I heard you correctly that you talked about how the Q4 is already off to seems like a pretty strong start. If that's the case, is it fair to think the trends that you witnessed through October were essentially running at similar levels to what you witnessed during the Q3? Speaker 500:20:24I guess what I'm just trying to understand here, has there been any real change in spend levels? And then maybe how the quarter Played out from a sequential standpoint. Speaker 200:20:37Yes. Because the Q3, Steve, Spend and a bunch of other metrics were extremely strong. I mean, as you know, the second and third quarter tend to be that way, but we actually saw improvements In average guest spend, staff utilization as the Q3 starts, as the Q3 starts With the longer cruises, it can go up and down just depending on how long those cruises are. But We're very, very encouraged by what we've seen even at the beginning of what we term the softer quarter As these ships reposition into new itineraries back to the Caribbean, back from Alaska, out of the Mediterranean and troubled areas. And so From what we've seen to date, I'm very encouraged by what I've seen so far in October. Speaker 200:21:30So yes, it Continues to hold, a strong pattern of demand. Speaker 500:21:37Got you. Thanks for that. And Look, I know it's early. I know you're not prepared to give 2024 guidance yet. But as we look into next year, Is there anything we should be thinking about in terms of seasonality or other factors that potentially could whether that's help or whether that's hurt operating performance, as we just kind of think about 2024 more from a big picture perspective? Speaker 200:22:08Not that I can see. I mean, I look at the close in bookings from the cruise lines, demand pricing, 60% to 65% booked through 2024. I mean, I guess we'll hear more from the cruise lines as they report, but certainly as we heard From Royal and NCL today, it seems that demand continues to be strong. And look, the value that Cruising today provides guests in a somewhat inflationary environment is still an incredible Vacation and value vacation. We continue to see demand for our services. Speaker 200:22:47We Continue to see the cruise lines focus more on the pre booking in, which we know guests spend more if they pre book. And I think The collaboration that we are experiencing with our cruise line banners and partners is at a level where they're seeing the benefits 2 from that pre booking. So I think we'll see them focus more on that. Outside of things, we just can't control, Steve, geopolitical events. As you know, Cruise lines will cancel and move away from travel, which they've started doing or have done already. Speaker 200:23:20I don't see Outside of anything macro that's out there, things that could sort of change my view On the demand for cruising, which seems to be outperforming any other vacation experience to date. Speaker 500:23:39Okay. Got you. Makes sense. Thank you very much, Leonard. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:23:43Of course. Thanks, Steve. Operator00:23:47Your next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:23:52Hi, good morning. I guess I'm curious on the revenue per staff per day. I mean it's holding at extremely high levels, particularly when you look at Kind of what you were doing pre pandemic. And I'm wondering if at this point, as you look forward, is the main opportunity in continuing to increase The revenue per staff per day or is it by adding more staff? I'm trying to figure out kind of how high Realistically, we could think about that revenue per staff per day going kind of on an annual basis. Speaker 600:24:26I know there's seasonality there. Speaker 200:24:31Tough question, but a good one, Sharon. So we continue to focus Sales and revenue staff that, as I mentioned, are out there all the time. Today, with the data, the metrics we have, we can really drill down and see Who is not performing? Where the underperformance is coming from? Which modality we need to shore up? Speaker 200:24:52I think the team has done an excellent job Throughout this year and in the last two quarters of last year is focusing on the underperformance and raising them to the level of the higher performance. So we want to get everybody up to As and B pluses. I think our team is doing an excellent job focusing on that and we have the data now Where we can see it earlier than we've ever done before and that was all the preparation that we did in the pre pandemic period and pandemic period. I think execution is a function of vigilance, earlier retrieval of data, Acting on that data and reinforcing training where it's needed. So we will balance staff across different itineraries As needed. Speaker 200:25:43And we will make sure that the balance is there, so that staff continue To be busy, we don't want them not to be busy, but we also want them to have the requisite rest that they need. So yes, it's a continued balancing act. At the same time, our focus in 2024 is going to be looking at what is the best use of stock? Do we have One less massage therapist and add somebody in our MediSpa or acupuncture, which is outperforming. So We want to make sure that we're putting the right staff on the right ship for the right itinerary for the right demographic. Speaker 200:26:20I think that will continue to support Revenue per staff per day into 2024. Speaker 600:26:27Thanks for that. And then I guess a follow-up question on debt. I mean it seems like Just given the trends in the business that you're going to delever pretty quickly, in 2024 and probably could be debt free at some point in 2025. I just want to level set that, Stephen, if that's kind of a realistic outlook because I assume that keeping debt on the balance sheet is not Kind of very advantageous for you given your kind of tax free status. Speaker 300:26:59Correct. Broadly speaking, that is absolutely the case. We do have a portion of the debt That we allocate to the U. S, which helps where we do therefore get the interest leverage benefit from that. But Part of that, it really doesn't make sense, particularly at close to 10% interest rate. Speaker 300:27:19So debt pay down will continue to be a focus Of our excess cash flow. I do think that at a point in time, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, right? The company We'll get to a point where we will consider avenues for returning capital to shareholders as we deem appropriate. Operator00:27:41Yes. Thank you. The next question comes from Max Roecklenko with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:27:53Great. Thanks a lot and nice job in the quarter. So you called out a number of key initiatives and priorities. Can you rank them in order of magnitude? And any key unlocks we should be looking for? Speaker 200:28:13Max, we're always looking obviously for market share pickups, right? There's not that many out there. We still continue to focus on that. We did pick up one more. At the end of the day, It could be perhaps focusing on other segments of cruising, whether it be river cruising, maybe there's more to pick up there, albeit that the ships are smaller, Well, they're even smaller than what we have on some of the small luxury ships. Speaker 200:28:39So, we focus on where the opportunity is. We think There could be some forthcoming, but it's too early to say What we're working on and what we'll develop, right? So I would say market share and new ship introductions continue to be a high priority. But at the same time, we want to focus on productivity at the same time as launching and Expanding our menus on board, particularly in the wellness and medi spa area, and that's going to be a focus over the next 2 years. And I would say that that's a key focus of ours is how we can augment that, how we can increase our footprint, how we can increase More staff by convincing the cruise lines that there's definitely an opportunity there given the high ticket prices. Speaker 200:29:32And ultimately, to the extent that we can move those two modalities to a higher level of Participation in our total gross revenue, that's obviously going to help expand revenue opportunities on board, The 135 ships that we have MediSpa on. Speaker 700:29:53Got it. That's very helpful. And then can you speak to the level of conservatism embedded in the 4Q guidance as data from the cruisers seem to suggest that you are being quite modest in your outlook? Speaker 200:30:12Look, I don't want to get too far ahead of us because we've raised guidance, I think, in my mind accurately to the And that we have an opportunity in this sort of softer quarter to outperform, so be it. There's still a lot of Bowls in the air that who knows what happens. But I just feel that, Gosh, we've raised guidance each quarter since we popped out of the Q1. I think, if you've known us long enough, We definitely a little bit on conservatism in case something does sort of wobble around, but We're pretty confident about where this Q4 is going to end up. Speaker 700:30:57Got it. And just very quickly, any early thoughts on 2024 given such Strong bookings called out by your cruise partners. And just any learnings from this year that will help you, outperform next year? Speaker 200:31:13Max, it's early to start talking about 2024. We typically do that sort of The week of ICR will give a high level guidance and feel. We're still receiving inputs from the cruise lines with respect to change like terminatories, etcetera. There could be some changes until we totally circled the wagons here and everything. I think it's too early to comment at this juncture. Speaker 200:31:37But We'll have that guidance out typically as we do the 1st or second week of January. Speaker 700:31:45Got it. All right. Thanks a lot guys. Best regards and happy holidays. Speaker 200:31:50Thank you. You too. Operator00:31:54Our next question comes from Laura Champine with Loop Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:31:59Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted a little more detail on, there's a sense in the press Release about deploying enhanced technologies to drive productivity. Could you be more specific on what types of things you're referring to there? Speaker 200:32:21I think it's looking at Scheduling, it's the most important thing that we do as we look at scheduling the day we sail. Obviously, the 1st day, the embarkation day is very important. We look at that demand. We look at the pre booked demand. We look at where the gaps are and we focus on that. Speaker 200:32:42We have a lot more in our marketing toolkit that we use for promotions, etcetera bundling, Getting more and more people to have more frequent services as opposed to just one and all of that's paying off. Speaker 800:33:00Got it. And then a follow-up to a prior question. I mean, you've got We're looking at good looking bookings from the public companies. How different do the private cruise line Booking trends tend to be relative to public company booking trends. Speaker 200:33:24Look, overall load factors this year have moved very positively Across both the public and non public companies, they tend to move in lockstep. I would imagine it's the same. I mean, sometimes you've seen some of the higher end perhaps not move at the same level. But generally speaking, I would say the confidence that the cruise lines see around near end bookings and Into 2024 should be similar across the entire industry. Speaker 800:34:01Understood. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:03Yes. Operator00:34:07Our next question comes from Agio Giorgiawa with Inmity Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:34:15Good morning, guys. Excellent quarter. Great job. I had a couple of quick questions. First of all, one of your major cruise partners is Kind of going into more longer, more exotic itineraries, is that structural Change going to affect you in 2024? Speaker 900:34:39Or do you think, given possibly a higher Level revenue generating client that it shouldn't have an impact. Speaker 200:34:53In the scheme of the 180 to 193 ships that will be on in this year, I mean, We've had cruises move into those longer itineraries. We've had many more world cruises than we've seen in the last year. We still know that the sweet spot is obviously the 7 day market. So can it impact Some of the cruises, yes, a little bit. It will be built into our guidance next year if it's so I just don't see it being a material impact at all. Speaker 200:35:31I think it's more Companies moving back into more normalized itineraries as opposed to perhaps what they've had as they've come out the pandemic. So I don't see this being A big change from what we saw in 2019 where we had those cruises. Speaker 900:35:48All right. That's Good news. And kind of a related question, I think we will have more dry docks in 2024 than we would have Typically relative to 2019. That will probably be sort of a short term event, I would imagine. Speaker 200:36:10Yes, I agree. Yes, exactly. Speaker 900:36:13All right. And lastly, maybe, Stephen, you touched on this when you were answering Sharon's question. With debt repayment at Such significant levels, which is great and trying to get returning capital to shareholders. Are we thinking buybacks or possibly a dividend program? Speaker 300:36:40Both will be considered. Determination will be made depending on what the stock price is, what interest rates are, etcetera. So I think the Board and the company will try and make the best decision for our shareholders. Speaker 900:36:57Well, Stephen, that was a very diplomatic way of telling me I'm not going to answer this question. Speaker 200:37:05No, he's not saying that at all, Asiya. What he's really saying is, you can see the free cash flow generation from this company. You can see the rate at which we're paying down debt. Clearly, at some point, whether it be at the end Of 24, we'll have a much better idea of where we are on debt. Clearly, that's the best use of cash right now. Speaker 200:37:30And to the extent then that we continue to see the same optimism in our business, we will start to return capital In either of those forms. I don't think he's trying to be cute at all. Speaker 900:37:44Well, and I didn't mean it that way. I guess I was Speaker 200:37:49But he is a very good diplomat, I will say. Speaker 900:37:53Agreed. Thank you, guys. Again, great quarter and thank you so much for providing even better guidance for Q4. Speaker 200:38:04Of course. Thank you. Operator00:38:08This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to the management for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:38:16Right. I just to thank everybody for joining us on the call today. But before I leave, I just want to thank our entire leadership team It works so closely with us and all of our associates support staff for their steadfast And commitment to achieving the operational excellence evidenced by the 3rd quarter results And expected 4th quarter results. So thank you everybody. We look forward to speaking with you on the next quarter call.Read morePowered by