CorMedix Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 14, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to CarMedics Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. There will be a question and answer session at the end of today's presentation and instructions on how to ask a question will be given at that time. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dan Ferry from LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the CorMedix Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Leading the call today is Joe Tedisco, Chief Executive Officer of CorMedix and he is joined by Doctor. Matt David, Executive Vice President and CFO Doctor. Phoebe Mounts, EVP and General Counsel And Aaron Mistry, EVP and Chief Commercial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during the call, management may make what are known as forward looking statements within the meaning set forth in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker 1

These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that include, but are not limited to, any of the following. Any statements other than statements of historical fact regarding management's expectations, beliefs, goals and plans about the company's prospects, including its clinical development program, manufacturing activities Marketing approval for DefenCath in the U. S. Or for other product candidates, future financial position, future revenues and projected costs and reimbursement and potential market acceptance of DefenCath or other product candidates. More specifically, forward looking statements include any statements about our Projections as to the company's future capital raising and spending and cash position, including projections regarding the sufficiency of the company's current cash resources To potentially bring the company through to breakeven profitability, expectations as to the timing and nature of anticipated regulatory actions, Reimbursement decisions, possible product licensing, business development or other transactions, any commercial plans and expectations, Intellectual property protections for our product candidates, market projections for our product candidates and expectations as to manufacturing And product component costs.

Speaker 1

Actual results may differ materially from these projections or estimates due to a variety of important factors, including but not limited to uncertainties related to clinical development, regulatory approvals and commercialization. These risks are described in greater detail in CorMedix's filings with the SEC, including the latest quarterly report on Form 10 Q and the annual report on Form 10 ks, copies of which are available free of charge at the SEC's website at www.sec.gov or upon request from CorMedix. CorMedix may not actually achieve the goals or plans described in these forward looking statements and investors should not place undue reliance on these statements. Please note that CorMedix does not intend to update these forward looking statements except as required by law. At this time, it is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joe Tedisco, Chief Executive Officer of CorMedix.

Speaker 1

Joe, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As we approach tomorrow's target action date for Defencast, I am very pleased with the progress that the company has made toward Pursuing final NDA approval from FDA as well as preparations for commercialization. I'm happy to announce that the FDA completed a pre approval inspection For our finished dosage CDMO site in September, we are very pleased with the outcome and an establishment inspection report or EIR and is expected to be issued imminently. I'd like to thank and congratulate all of the CorMedix employees who have worked diligently with our CDMO and external consultants In preparation for the inspection as well as thank our CDMO, Rovi Pharma Industrial Services for their commitment to CorMedix and DefenCath.

Speaker 2

Phebe will provide additional clarity around preapproval inspections and the status of the NDA review process. Certainly, it's frustrating for us to host this call today, a day ahead of our PDUFA date, but this was the last day we could conduct this call under SEC requirements and we were hopeful that FDA could potentially take action earlier than our target action date. FDA has communicated to CorMedix that they are working towards Taking action on our application tomorrow and at present time, the company is not aware of any outstanding review items or deficiencies that would lead to a negative outcome. In that regard, in advance of our target action date, we have intensified our preparations for commercial launch with a number of key new hires In market access, sales training, pricing and contracting, commercial operations, field medical and drug safety and pharmacovigilance. We are building a significant number of capabilities in house as well as relying on external vendors for certain activities that require larger scale.

Speaker 2

Our inpatient field team will consist of a combination of in house market access key account managers as well as external expert advisors With deep relationships at specific high value target institutions and health systems. In the event we do receive final FDA approval over the coming days, We are targeting a commercial launch before the end of the Q1 of 2024, likely initially focused on the inpatient segment only. Our assumptions around commercial launch and sales ramp may be impacted by external factors, most notably the timing of reimbursement guidance From the Center For Medicare and Medicaid Services or CMS around outpatient reimbursement for Defend Caf. Over the past 2 months, we have been engaged in an active back and forth discussion with CMS, making our case that the FenCast The alternative to separate payment under Medicare Part B Would be a CMS determination that DefendCath is a renal dialysis service and eligible for a transitional drug add on payment or TDAPA. While we maintain our guidance to analysts and investors to consider TDAPA as our base case from a financial modeling standpoint, The company feels strongly that DefenCath does not fall within the current statutory definition of a renal dialysis service and therefore should properly be separately reimbursed under Medicare Part B.

Speaker 2

CorMedix is preparing to submit an application to CMS For unique product J code on January 1, 2024 for Part B reimbursement provided our NDA receives FDA approval. The deadline from CMS to submit an application for TDAPA is also in January 1. Absent direct feedback from CMS advising the company to submit an application for TDAPA prior to that January deadline, CorMedix does not intend to submit an application at this time as we do not believe that the product is a renal dialysis service. As TADAP is a quarterly application process with a full quarter to implement should CMS deem Defencast to be a renal dialysis service. Our TADAP application will therefore lag any such determination and may impact the timing of outpatient product launch by a quarter.

Speaker 2

It is also worth noting that a prolonged government shutdown could adversely impact the timing of any guidance from CMS around reimbursement and the submission or review of either a J code or TDAP application. With respect to a potential inpatient launch in the Q1 of 2024, We contemplate this would be a soft launch as we could only begin the process of seeking P and T formulary approval at various health systems once the NDA for DefendCat has final FDA approval. Over the past several months, we have accelerated the process of building relationships with key target health systems, Identifying key opinion leaders and engaging external advisors with existing relationships with those targeted systems. The P and T process varies It can take anywhere from 3 to 9 months depending on the health system. We are hopeful to be able to land some quick early formulary positions.

Speaker 2

However, the ramp on the inpatient side is expected to be slow over the 1st 3 to 9 months of launch. At present time, due to the inpatient formulary lag and the expected timing to implement any outpatient reimbursement, We would not expect meaningful revenue contributions until the second half of twenty twenty four. Provided we obtain timely NDA approval, we discussing more granularity around inpatient launch ramp and the timing of outpatient launch during our year end earnings call. I will now turn the call over to Phoebe for a regulatory update and discuss progress toward potential FDA approval. Phoebe?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Joe. Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to thank and congratulate everyone on the teams who have worked so hard toward preparation of the CDMO site for a preapproval inspection as well as in responding to all other requests by FDA for information on the DefenCath NDA resubmission. In addition to a pre approval inspection of our primary finished dosage manufacturing site, the FDA has also conducted pre approval inspections To defend Cap, as suppliers of active pharmaceutical ingredients, contract laboratories involved in testing of product specifications and packaging We are not aware of any outstanding review issues at this time. Over the past several months, We have received multiple requests for information from FDA related to the content of the Phencath NDA, including draft prescribing information, which is consistent with the normal NDA review process.

Speaker 3

Most recently, we received a request for updated secondary packaging labels as well as a request for information related to our post approval pediatric study commitment. You may recall that CorMedix and FDA agreed to a post marketing commitment to conduct a study in pediatric hemodialysis Patients pursuant to PREA or Pediatric Research Equity Act and BPCA or Best Pharmaceuticals For Children Act. When this study is completed, it will have the potential to extend 6 months of marketing exclusivity To the 5 years of marketing exclusivity for potential approval of DefendCap as a new chemical entity or NCE And the additional 5 years for the designation of DefendCap as a qualified infectious disease product. We view these requests as positive indicators that our NDA review is progressing in line with our expectations. We have also received written notification from FDA that the proprietary name to Sencap Remains conditionally acceptable, pending final approval of the NDA by FDA.

Speaker 3

Lastly, We made the decision to proactively reach out to FDA and withdraw from our application our original supplier of heparin API. You may recall from our prior communications that during our Type A meeting in April, the FDA had advised us To resubmit the NDA with 2 suppliers of heparin API as our initial supplier had an ongoing warning letter unrelated to heparin. FDA advised during our Type A meeting that should the warning letter remain unresolved as we approach our target action date, We would have the ability to withdraw that source as a supplier from the application. As of late September, That warning letter remained unresolved. And though our supplier has implemented corrective actions, No closeout inspection has yet been scheduled by FDA.

Speaker 3

To that extent, we made the decision to withdraw that Supplier of heparin API from our NDA application, so as not to unnecessarily delay our eligibility for final NDA approval. We will reevaluate resubmitting the heparin supplier following clearance of the warning letter and the potential FDA approval of the Defend Kath NDA. We now optimistically anticipate FDA action with tomorrow's target action date. It is worth emphasizing that the PDUFA date is a target action date and not a statutory requirement. FDA is not required to take action by the And there are recent instances of FDA taking action on days preceding or following a specific target date.

Speaker 3

As noted by Joe, FDA has communicated that the NDA remains under review and the agency is working towards taking action by the PDUFA date. We are unaware of any outstanding information that is required. I would now like to turn the call over to Matt, Matt?

Speaker 4

Thanks, Phoebe, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to be here today to provide an overview of our Q3 year to date 2023 financial results as well as an update on CorMedix's cash position. The company has filed its quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023. I urge you to read the information contained in the report for a more complete discussion of our financial results. With respect to our Q3 of 2023 financial results, our net loss was approximately $9,700,000 or $0.17 Compared with a loss of $6,900,000 or $0.17 per share in the Q3 of 2022.

Speaker 4

The higher net loss recognized in 2023 compared with 2022 included an increase in operating expenses driven by pre launch activities for Defen Cat versus the Q3 of 2022. Operating expenses in the Q3 of 2023 Increased approximately 50 percent to $10,500,000 compared with $7,000,000 in the Q3 of 2022. R and D expense increased by approximately 14% to $2,700,000 driven primarily by an increase in costs related to medical affairs activities and an increase in personnel expenses. SG and A expense increased approximately 69% to $7,800,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared with $4,600,000 in the Q3 of 2022. This increase was primarily attributable to an increase in costs related to market research studies and pre launch activities In preparation for the potential marketing approval of DefendCap and an increase in personnel expenses due to additional hires, partially offset by a decrease in legal fees for the period.

Speaker 4

With respect to our 9 month year date 2023 Financial Results. Total operating expenses during the 9 months year to date of 2023 amounted to $33,300,000 compared with $22,300,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2022, an increase of 49%. R and D expense increased 39 percent to $10,900,000 driven primarily by an increase in personnel expenses, An increase in costs related to medical affairs activities and an increase in costs related to the technical and quality operations for the manufacturing of DefenCath prior to its potential marketing approval. SG and A expense increased approximately 55% to $22,400,000 compared with the 1st 9 months of 2022, primarily driven by an increase in costs related to market research studies And pre launch activities in preparation for the potential marketing approval of DefenCath, an increase in personnel expenses and an increase in non cash charges for stock based compensation. These increases were partially offset by a decrease in legal fees for the period.

Speaker 4

We recorded net cash used in operations during the 9 months year to date of 2023 of 27,700,000 compared with net cash used in operations of $18,200,000 in the same period in 2022. The increase is primarily driven by an increase in net loss, primarily attributable to an increase in operating expenses as compared to the same period in 2022. With the closing of our announced equity offering earlier in the Q3, CorMedix is in a strong position from a balance sheet perspective as we prepare the company for potential commercial launch in the Q1 of 2024. The company has cash and cash equivalents of 86.6 as of September 30, 2023. We believe our cash, cash equivalents, Short term investments and other available resources gives the company the capability to fund the commercial launch of DefendCath through to anticipated profitability.

Speaker 4

Assuming we are able to obtain timely approval of the Defend Kath NDA on our action date and commence commercial launch in the Q1 of 2024 as well as achieve other internal base case assumptions. I will now turn the call back over to Joe for closing remarks. Joe?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Matt. PharMEDix is keenly focused on our upcoming target action date and hoping for a positive outcome from FDA. We are firing on all cylinders Preparing for a potential commercial launch. We have the inventory manufactured and ready to be labeled once we have a final label from FDA And we have new batches scheduled from our CDMO. We are actively in communications with CMS and once a determination is made regarding our reimbursement structure, We will pivot our launch strategy accordingly.

Speaker 2

As I mentioned earlier, I do expect to be able to provide more granularity around launch assumptions on our next earnings call. I appreciate everyone's continued support in CorMedix. I'm happy to take questions.

Operator

Thank you. And and your questions will be pulled in the order they have received. And your first question comes from the line of Jason Butler from JMP Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all of the progress to date. And obviously, we're Excitedly waiting for a decision from FDA. Couple of questions. You mentioned that You've had some label discussions or negotiations with FDA. Is the label or the draft label that you're aware of today Consistent with your expectations and do you think it gives you an optimal launch opportunity?

Speaker 5

And then understanding that a full Commercial launch will happen in 1Q. How soon will the product be commercially available? And can you give us any color on, A, the steps that you'll take from now until commercial of full commercial launch and how we should think about capacity, especially The API supplier during the first parts of the launch. Thanks.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Jason. I think the first question is easy to address on the label. There were no in anything that we've seen in our communications from FDA. So we're certainly happy with the feedback that we've seen on the label.

Speaker 2

And as you point out, we're not guiding toward a full commercial launch in the Q1. And certainly, there are some Decision points we might have to make that could cause us to want to maybe push out a couple of weeks Around reimbursement, right? We want to maximize the value of whatever reimbursement structure that we get and we're very conscious of ASP management. But We're targeting right now having the product available for inpatient launch by the end of the Q1 of 2024. Capacity, we as I said, we have CDMO capacity reserved for batches Early in the year, we can certainly scale that up toward the back part of the year as we get toward our outpatient kicking off our outpatient launch.

Speaker 2

But we've also already placed purchase orders for API. So API capacity should not be a constraint on launch in the back part of the year.

Speaker 5

Great. And then just last one on the outpatient reimbursement. Any insights into the dialogue with CMS at this point? Do you feel like Have you got any responses from that indicate that you're making progress towards securing approval under Medicare Part D?

Speaker 2

It's part B, not part D. But look, I think it's been a productive back and forth discussion. I think we continue to guide that our Base case for investors should be TDAPA. We think TDAPA is perfectly adequate reimbursement structure for End stage renal disease or renal dialysis services, we just don't think that Defend Catalyst falls within the scope of renal dialysis So, all I'll say is that we think it's been productive. We think we've provided the government with compelling HEOR and patient market data.

Speaker 2

And we're hopeful that CMS would make a Determination or give us guidance before the end of the year. There's certainly no timing that they're bound by. But they are aware that there's a deadline for a J code and a DAP application on Jan 1 as we are, and we're hopeful that barring a long term government shutdown that we could get Some direction from them before the end of the year.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker 2

Thanks.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Joon Lee from Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, guys. This is Les on for June. Just want to echo that. Congrats on the progress. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Speaker 6

Just to clear up, you'll be submitting the application for the outpatient side on the per J code, assuming Jan 1. Is there a possibility for you to resubmit if not approved for the first time and what's the timeline look like on that? And I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2

Well, I think what you're asking though, Les, is if we submit the application and we don't have a determination from CMS On the reimbursement structure, is that what you're asking? Yes. Well, certainly, look, if We submit the application and then subsequently CMS guides us that they believe to DAP is the appropriate structure. We'd have to reevaluate what discussions we would have with them around continuing to pursue separate payment, but I likely would not for

Speaker 6

Okay. Thanks for that. And you did mention that there's a lingering potential government shutdown. I mean, very unknown. But in the like In an unlikely scenario that does happen, how does that impact any of your commercial launch, if at all?

Speaker 6

And then also Where are you standing in engagement with P and T meetings and what have been your pre launch activities thus far? Thank you.

Speaker 2

All right. Well, look, as I mentioned in the script, to the extent there was a long term shutdown That prevented CMS from giving us reimbursement guidance or reviewing either it's a DAP or a J code application certainly that could impact the timing of commercial launch. In order for products to get utilization, they need adequate reimbursement and that needs to be established, whether it's for inpatient health Our outpatient dialysis facilities. In terms of pre launch activities, we've been quite active, right? We've had a number of discussions with various health systems with the LDOs around how potentially Different reimbursement structures could fit into their system.

Speaker 2

So we're preparing for various ultimate

Speaker 4

Operator, can we move to the next question, please?

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gregory Renza from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is

Speaker 7

Look forward to the decision coming up soon.

Speaker 2

Hey, Greg. Greg, can you start over? Yes, can you start over? We didn't hear the first part of What you're saying?

Speaker 7

Yes. Just adding my congrats on the progress, Joe, and just mentioned that we're looking forward to tomorrow or the decision Coming up. And maybe Joe, just my question maybe to build on some of your mention of the potential government shutdown. Just wanted to ask if you're Considering certainly on the eve of a potential decision or approval, any other macro factors that Are part of your consideration in the strategy to really rollout DefenCath. And it's helpful to hear about The government proceedings, but also if it comes to the labor and the hires and even some of the stakeholder engagement, To what extent are you now considering it now that we're sort of at the doorstep of a potential approval here?

Speaker 7

And then I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Greg, and I appreciate the congratulations. And as I somewhat mentioned in the prepared comments, we've been ramping up and accelerating over the past couple of months, Since we got visibility of the inspection, you've likely seen us posting a number of hiring, adding new roles, Continuing our engagement with key stakeholders. So the government shutdown, if it happens, it will be unfortunate. I think we were talking today about the longest shutdown that's happened is only several weeks. So we don't think that it's Going to be overall devastating, but hopefully it can be minimized by the government and nothing more than a blip, if it does happen at all.

Speaker 2

But we're just focused on operational execution right now, assuming a positive we get a positive outcome from FDA tomorrow. We're Doing everything we need to be doing to execute on our launch plan.

Speaker 7

Yes, that's great. Very helpful. Maybe just one quick one. Just coming back to The clinical value proposition and also the ability for DAPENCA to really be the first approved Product in this area, just remind us of that value proposition, really what the landscape looks like when it comes to infection prevention. And just curious how you sort of think about the practice and care standard variability out there and how this could be a solution in the space?

Speaker 2

Certainly, our Phase 3 Clinical results demonstrated in our primary endpoint a 71% reduction with risk associated with CRBSI For hemodialysis patients with the CVC, there is nothing currently FDA approved as a drug product for the prevention of CRBSI in this patient population or in any patient population for that matter. So this truly is a first in class therapy. As you point out, we're looking to change the paradigm from one where infections are treated after the fact, right? You have a disease state with an incredibly high incidence rate and we've got Upwards of a third of hemodialysis patients with a catheter will get a CRBSI. Half of those infections happen in the 1st 90 days They have a catheter, so they happen fast, they happen frequently, and they're fatal 25% of the time.

Speaker 2

So I would say that this Absolutely a critical unmet medical need. And we're looking forward to providing this Option for prescribers and physicians and health systems for their patients.

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, I would like to turn it back to Dan Ferry from LifeSci Advisors for additional written questions from the audience.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Joe, we have a few here from the audience that was were written in here. The first one is you mentioned that the company is pleased with the outcome of the PAI Preapproval Inspections. Can you elaborate what is meant by that?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Dan. And I assume that's directed at the pre approval inspection for our primary CDMO, which we've announced is Rovi. Yes. So typically when an inspection concludes, it takes about 90 days for an EIR to issue And we're still waiting on that EIR.

Speaker 2

But we're very happy with the way the inspection progressed. At the close of the inspection, the inspector verbally communicated That you'd be recommending voluntary action indicated status. And if you're familiar, it means that New approvals can proceed from that facility. Also, I'd say over the last couple of days, Our manufacturing partner, Rovi, recently announced that another sponsor received approval of an application of a registration from the same So from a compliance standpoint that gives us a lot of comfort.

Speaker 1

Okay, great, Joe. Just a few more here. You described during the call a potential launch in Q1 2024. Can you give some color regarding, 1, what investors can expect to see some revenue? 2, what metrics CorMedix intends to report related to launch in the form of maybe hospitals or patients?

Speaker 1

Can you give us some color here?

Speaker 2

Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Dan. So right, as we mentioned, we're A soft launch in the early part of the year that we would look to certainly accelerate as we get Our outpatient reimbursement solidified whether it's to DAPA or separate payment. We would Expect to give some directional revenue guidance, hopefully, on our next earnings call should provided we have reimbursement determination from CMS.

Speaker 2

But along the way, I think there's going to be catalysts that certainly we can talk about and report, Whether it's certain health systems, formulary status, potentially agreements with LDOs or MDOs, Right, that where we could point to directional revenue guidance and value, and all that could certainly be over the upcoming months.

Speaker 1

Excellent. Thanks, Joe. One final one here. It's a good segue. What do you view as some of the key catalysts Going into 2024 for CorMedix.

Speaker 2

Yes. So obviously, I touched on some of them. The first and foremost It's approval. We have to lock down NDA approval hopefully tomorrow. Beyond that, we're waiting on a decision from CMS The reimbursement structure for Tafenkaf that will guide how we roll out our launch strategy in inpatient and outpatient.

Speaker 2

But some of those key catalysts that I just mentioned, potential agreements with LDOs or MDOs, Updates around larger health systems, P and T and formulary adoption, and potentially Later next year, updating on label expansion for DefenCath into additional indications.

Speaker 1

Excellent. Thank you, Joe. Operator, you may now close the call.

Operator

Thank you, presenters. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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