NYSEAMERICAN:VNRX VolitionRx Q3 2023 Earnings Report $0.50 +0.02 (+4.19%) As of 03:08 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings History VolitionRx EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.11Consensus EPS -$0.12Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPSN/AVolitionRx Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$0.17 millionExpected Revenue$0.26 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$90.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AVolitionRx Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/14/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, November 15, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsVolitionRx's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 12, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 14, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by VolitionRx Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 15, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to VolitionRx Limited Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, the conference call will be opened for 2Q followed by the number 2 on your touchtone phone. Operator00:00:28If you're using speaker equipment, please lift the handset before making your selection. This conference is being recorded today, November 15, 2023. I'd now like to turn the conference call over to Scott Powell, Executive Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to today's earnings conference call for VolitionRx Limited. This call will cover Volition's financial and operating results for the Q3 of 2023, along with a discussion of our recent activities and key upcoming milestones. Following our prepared remarks, We will open the conference call to a question and answer session. Also on our call today are Mr. Cameron Reynolds, President and Group Chief Executive Officer Mr. Speaker 100:01:18Terry Hughes, Group Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Tom Butera, Chief Executive Officer of our Volition Veterinary Subsidiary and Doctor. Andrew Reeder, Medical Consultant to Volition. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that some of the information discussed on this conference call will include forward looking statements covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based upon information currently available to us. Speaker 100:01:58Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual future results may vary significantly based on a number of factors that may cause the actual results or events to be materially different from future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by these statements. We have identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake an obligation to update any forward looking statements made during the course of this call. I would now like to turn the call over to our President and Group Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Speaker 100:02:58Cameron Reynolds. Gentlemen, Speaker 200:02:59thanks, Scott, and thank you, everyone, for joining Volition's Q3 2023 earnings call today. We We will commence the call with a financial report from our Group Chief Financial Officer, Tara Hughes before moving to Doctor. Tom Butera, our Chief Executive Officer of Volition Veterinary, for an update on the rollout of our Nu. Q Vet cancer test. And then I'm delighted that Doctor. Speaker 200:03:27Andy Retta, who works as a hematologist and intensive care consultant at one of the U. K. Leading hospitals, has pre recorded his thoughts on our progress in our Nu. Q. Nets pillar, and in particular, the result of our FDA meeting Achieving a Clear Regulatory Pathway and also of our recent breakthrough early cancer detection method recently presented at ESMO in October. Speaker 200:03:52I will wrap up with my thoughts and upcoming milestones and discuss our overall strategy going forward. Without further ado, I'll hand you across to Tarek for the financial report. Kerry? Speaker 300:04:04Thanks very much, Cameron, and thank you, everyone, for joining our earnings call today. I'll now provide a summary of the key financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2023. From a revenue perspective, We recorded revenue of $165,000 for the quarter, a fivefold increase over the same period last year. During the 1st 3 quarters of 2023, revenue grew 185 percent to $531,000 We believe that these results demonstrate steady growth, but not yet the ramp in revenues that we anticipate. We Revenues to accelerate as we close out 2023 and into the early part of 2024 as several additional distributors come online with our Nu. Speaker 300:04:47Q VetTest And our Nu. Q Discover pillar continues its growth. Year on year revenue growth was primarily driven by sales of the Nu. Q Vet cancer test, which grew almost fivefold over the 9 month period ended September 30, 2023, as compared to the prior year period, reflecting sales of the reference kits mostly through our agreement with IDEXX, who we are working closely with on their marketing and expansion plans across the U. S. Speaker 300:05:14And into international markets. Revenue for Nu. Q Discover for the 1st 3 quarters of 2023 was $151,000 which reflects 38% growth over the comparative period in 2022. Looking ahead, as we have previously stated, It is difficult in these early stages of commercialization to provide meaningful revenue guidance. But as both Tom and Cameron will cover in their updates, We are pleased with the progress we are making across a number of our product pillars. Speaker 300:05:44We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of approximately $10,800,000 compared to $10,900,000 at the end of 2022. Net cash used in operating activities during the quarter was approximately $8,400,000 And included payments of almost $1,000,000 related to our U. S. Clinical trial activities in sepsis, which have since wound down due to successful completion of The first phase. We are working hard to keep burn as low as possible while we commercialize a range of products and more on that shortly. Speaker 300:06:17Total operating expenses for the quarter were $8,800,000 compared to $8,000,000 for the Q3 of 2022. This increase was primarily the result of increased research and development expenditures, mainly reflecting the costs of our U. S. Clinical trials, which added $700,000 to the P and L costs in the quarter. Net loss for the quarter was $8,500,000 compared to $7,800,000 for the 3 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:06:47As ever, and in particular, given the current macroeconomic conditions, we remain committed to careful expenditure and tight budget control. And to that end, we have recently completed a rationalization project and identified annualized savings of approximately $2,000,000 Including a reduction in our overall headcount, it is a balance between investing in our product development and launches to ensure revenue growth and preserving precious capital. This is a balance we are very carefully and thoughtfully treading. To date, Various European funding bodies and in particular, Belgian agencies have provided the company with approximately $19,000,000 in non diluted funding in various Forms, including cash grants or loans on favorable terms. This cash has helped fund either wholly or in part our purpose built R and D facility And our manufacturing site SilverOne in Belgium, our innovation lab in California, the establishment of our Volition Veterinary subsidiary, various R and D programs and most recently, our Centers of Excellence program for Nu. Speaker 300:07:54Q NETs in Europe. Subsequent to quarter end, our Walloon Institutional Fund and Regional Government Bodies of the Walloon Region of Belgium Approved providing additional funding to the company, aggregating approximately $6,000,000 We are also expecting further amounts from other Belgian agencies to be secured in the Q1 of 2024. We would like to publicly thank the various government in Belgium for their continued support. We have also greatly expanded our efforts with respect to seeking non dilutive funding in the U. S. Speaker 300:08:29Our aim is to fund some of our major programs through either non dilutive or project financing, which we anticipate could potentially be of $25,000,000 over the next 2 years. Cameron will outline this strategy to fund our pillars going forward later in his portion of the call. Looking ahead, we also expect to receive a further $13,000,000 in milestone payments from the Heska Corporation. Clearly, these are challenging times at a macroeconomic level. However, I believe that we are well placed with our existing capital and expected near term incoming funds to execute the plan the team have in place for this final quarter and into 2024. Speaker 300:09:13And with that, I will pass over to Doctor. Tom Butera, CEO of our Volition Veterinary subsidiary. Tom? Thanks very much, Terry, and good morning, everybody. Speaker 400:09:23I am pleased to report that in the 1st 9 months of 2023, Revenue for the Nu. Q Vet Cancer Test grew almost fivefold over the comparable prior year period, reflecting sales of the reference kits to our global, regional and local supply agreements. The revenue growth demonstrates solid progress to date And we certainly expect more growth to come as additional companies fully launch our product both in the U. S. And around the world. Speaker 400:09:52As you will have seen in a recent announcement, our Nu. Q Vet cancer test is now available in the UK. Indeed, I am taking this call from London, England as the team is in town for the London VET Show over the coming days. We were thrilled the launch of our Nu. Q test was featured in an article of the Sunday Times, one of the flagship papers here in the UK, Really terrific exposure. Speaker 400:10:19The London Vet Show is Europe's largest veterinary exhibition with more than 20% of U. K. Vets attending the event. So we are looking forward to a busy few days, not only in the exhibition hall, But we also have a series of sponsored and invited talks on Friday with Doctor. Sue Ettinger and Becca Timmins. Speaker 400:10:39There are 11,000,000 pet dogs in the UK with 29% of the households owning 1 or more dogs, so we believe that the UK market provides another tremendous opportunity to drive access to our early detection test. We are delighted to be supplying 2 of the leading veterinary diagnostic providers in the UK, Nationwide Laboratories and Veterinary Pathology Group, both of whom will also be promoting the Nu. Q Vet Cancer Test at the London Vet Show. We expect exciting times ahead on this side of the pond. We are also making progress in our efforts to provide greater access to our Nu. Speaker 400:11:19Q Vet Cancer Test in Asia and will be launching with VITA Genomics in early 2024 in Taiwan and also anticipate announcing the launch in the early part of 2024 with a leading veterinary diagnostic provider in Japan. In terms of our global licensing and supply agreements, IDEXX continues to ramp up the availability of the Nu. Q test across its extensive U. S. Reference laboratory network. Speaker 400:11:48IDEXX is gearing up marketing efforts to drive awareness and trial of the product with U. S. Conference season just around the quarter in January February 2024. The Mars Heska Group continues to make very good progress as well and we hopefully anticipate the launch of their exclusive point of care test very soon, which would also trigger a milestone payment to us. From a research and development perspective, Under the guidance of Doctor. Speaker 400:12:17Heather Wilson Robles, Doctor. Justin Hines and Doctor. Becca Timmins, we are continuing to develop our feline product and we'll be expanding our Nu. Q platform into emergency medicine, specifically looking at natosis and I certainly look forward to bringing you more detailed updates on these two topics in the future. That's a quick update for me given our packed agenda today. Speaker 400:12:42I will now with great pleasure hand over to Doctor. Andrew Ritter, a hematologist and intensive care consultant at one of the UK's leading hospitals. Doctor. Redder has provided invaluable insights and guidance to the Volition team and presented at our Capital Markets Day earlier this year and at a number of informative webinars events the team has hosted. Doctor. Speaker 400:13:04Retter will be providing his view on our progress with Nu. Q NETs as well as discussing Volition's breakthrough method in early cancer detection. Andy, over to you. Speaker 500:13:15Thanks very much, Tom, for that introduction, and good morning, everybody. I'm delighted to join the call And provide an update on some of the significant progress made with Volition's Nu. Q NETs and cancer pillars. So Starting first with Nu. Q NETs and sepsis, which is how I first was introduced to Volition. Speaker 500:13:34Sepsis, as you've heard me say before, is one of the leading causes of death worldwide with almost 15,000,000 cases annually leading to unfortunately around 11,000,000 deaths. There is ongoing discussion about the diagnosis and definition of sepsis. Delitian has made significant progress this quarter, which is carried through into the Q4. In September, we hosted a key opinion leader roundtable event in Athens, Greece. This workshop held over the course of 2 days focused exclusively on sepsis and the potential role of new QNets. Speaker 500:14:11It was attended by some of the world's leading experts, including 3 authors of the highly influential and critical sepsis 3 Clinical definition paper. The current Chair of the International Sepsis Forum and the current Chair of the European Sepsis Alliance and many other attendees Our operating is a center of excellence within the new QNEDS program and so have first hand experience with the assay. We desperately need new diagnostics and new tools to measure the progression of sepsis and This may lead to new therapeutics. The sense from the group was that Nu. Q Net potentially represents One of the biggest breakthroughs in sepsis and the management of sepsis in the last 40 years. Speaker 500:15:00If you would like to find out more about the KOL meeting, A short report was issued and is available in the download section of the Volition website. Moving forward with this group, I'm now working on a clinical review article with the attention to submit it for peer review and publication in the Q1 of 2024. Speaking of publications, shortly after the event And subsequent to quarter end, in October, the first clinical paper from the Center of Excellence was published. This was published by Professor Guila Monterrey's group from Leon. The data published demonstrated a mortality signal. Speaker 500:15:35So the higher the score, unfortunately, the more likely a patient is to die. It also confirmed the correlation with Nu. Q NET and the SIFA score. The SIFA score is the current, But a little cumbersome AGRICATE score used to diagnose and monitor sepsis. It is mainly used in research trials as opposed to day to day practice at the bedside. Speaker 500:15:56As a clinician, the reason for the high level of interest and dare I say excitement about the results of Nu. Q nets That if we could establish a baseline and continue to monitor a patient with a simple blood test, this would be much more straightforward and more efficient than current practices. It also potentially provides us with a new therapeutic target to improve the care of our patients in the future. It is fantastic to have this first paper out, and we look forward to further data being published by Centers of Excellence in 2024 and beyond. Over in the U. Speaker 500:16:30S, I am pleased to report that Volition recently completed the Q sub process with the U. S. Food and Drug Administration. I am happy to announce that they have agreed the regulatory pathway of a traditional 510 path with an adjudicated clinical comparator. The Volition team is grateful for the opportunity to participate in the Q sub process and greatly appreciate the feedback from the FDA. Speaker 500:16:54These interactions were engaging and helpful, and Volition feels that such discussions gave it a clear regulatory path to follow for what we hope is an exciting opportunity. Finally, from a Nu. Q Net perspective, I'm happy to say The study at my own hospital, Guy's and St. Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust in London is about to open. Guy's and St. Speaker 500:17:17Thomas' is sponsoring the study and it is funded by Volition. As a reminder, this is a large scale 500 patient prospective study, which will run over the course of the next 12 to 18 months. It is fantastically up and running ahead of the winter months. I'd like to take just a few minutes to discuss Volition's For those with a particular interest in this topic, might I direct you again to the Volition website where you can view a recorded webinar about this exciting breakthrough. Cancer, as we all know, is a deadly disease, causing around 10,000,000 deaths a year. Speaker 500:18:02It is also set to grow as our population ages with estimates of 30 new 1,000,000 cases a year by 2,040. Like many diseases, early diagnosis has a significant impact on outcome. Putting it simply, the earlier we can diagnose cancer, The greater chance of survival and a good quality of life for our patients. Early diagnosis is challenging. Cancer develops silently with few symptoms and so frequently people are diagnosed late when there are few treatment options available Or when treatment is available, it is more invasive and more aggressive. Speaker 500:18:38Indeed, in the U. K. Where I work, About 45% of cancers are diagnosed at Stage III or Stage IV. In early stage cancer, it is difficult to detect cancer Derived circulating tumor DNA, so called ctDNA. CtDNA in the blood may compromise only 0.01 percent of the DNA present around a background of 99.99 percent cell free DNA circulating. Speaker 500:19:07Moreover, most of the cats to DNA have exactly the same sequence as normal DNA. Current ctDNA detection methods On the market and in development involve DNA extraction, sequencing of all the DNA in the sample, both cancer and normal, and analysis of the sequencing data using sophisticated computer bioinformatics to tell them apart. Volition has developed a novel method for liquid biopsy involving the first reported physical isolation of a class of tumor derived ctDNA fragments from blood. These cancer derived ctDNA fragments are then extracted after removal of all normal background DNA from the test. This allows detection with a simple low cost polymerase chain reaction. Speaker 500:19:58Volition's proof of concept data was presented at ESMO 2023 and demonstrates the isolation of tumor derived DNA fragments from plasma. Volition tested the new method in a first small clinical experiment and detected a range of liquids and other cancers, including early stage 1 disease. For example, 74% of leukemias were detected at 96% specificity And 77% of colorectal cancers were detected at 92% specificity using ctDNA and PCR assays. These early assays were developed using leukemia as a model to follow. Surprisingly, We also detected many other cancers, including colorectal cancer, in a blood test with an accuracy approaching that of the current fecal immunochemical tests. Speaker 500:20:52As Doctor. Jake Michalis, Volition's Chief Scientific Officer, known to many of you on the call today, previously stated, the results today Our exciting and paved the way for a whole new class of undiscovered biomarkers with potentially 100 of 1000 of possible targets. Volition is now developing a range of cancer specific assays, which it expects to be more accurate, both more sensitive and more specific than these preliminary results. And we really look forward to sharing progress in the beginning of Q1 of 2024. And drawing to a close, I'd like to express my own personal excitement about the progress of Both through Nu. Speaker 500:21:28Q and with respect to its recent potentially breakthrough cancer detection method. I believe that Volition's technologies will not only help with Diagnostic enrichment, but also with monitoring a patient's disease progression and response to treatment. Most incredibly, Accomplishing these goals with what should be a relatively low cost routine blood test, allowing it to be used around the world in multiple healthcare settings. Thank you very much for listening today. I will now pass you over to Cameron Reynolds for his final remarks. Speaker 500:22:00Thank you, Cameron. Speaker 200:22:03Thank you very much, Doctor. Andy Retter, for providing those insights, and thanks as always to Terrig and Tom for their reports. It's a real sign of the varied expertise we now have at Volition. 2023 thus far has certainly been transformational for Volition. But before I reflect on that, I'd like to take a moment to elucidate our financial strategy. Speaker 200:22:24Given the current macroeconomic conditions, We are focusing on getting each pillar to support itself, either through product revenues, milestone payments, at licensing or other non dilutive funding by the end of 2024. We are currently targeting the following: We expect Nu. Q Vet to be overall cash flow positive from now on through milestone payments and the expected revenue ramp as more partners launch and our existing partners expand into new territories. We expect Nu. Q Discover to more than double revenue in 2024 and to become profitable starting in 2025. Speaker 200:23:03We're running out of time to cover Discover separately on this call, but overall, we are very happy with progress with 9 contracts signed already and a further 10 currently in negotiation. Thirdly, we have begun a strategy to fund, As Tarek alluded to earlier, our Nu. Q nets pillar through non dilutive and or project funding of up to $25,000,000 We have targeted a range of government agencies in the U. S. And Europe and are also preparing the background work aimed at attracting a large player to either outlicense or invest in the product directly. Speaker 200:23:394th, lastly, as discussed by Gail Forteir, our Chief Commercial Officer, In our recent webinar, there has been a lot of external interest in our CTCF and UQ Cancer Technologies. Our strategy is to license this out to 1 or more larger companies as a commercial undertaking of this size is likely beyond our current capabilities. If successful, we believe this strategy could provide us ongoing royalties and very meaningful milestone payments in 2024. Given the current macroeconomic conditions, we believe these methods of funding the 4 pillars should provide us a very good basis to move forward. To date, in 2023, the commercialization of our transformational Nu. Speaker 200:24:23Q Vet Cancer Test within the companion animals healthcare sector has signed up several large new players with more to come. Given the ongoing bedding in of our existing partners and the expected launch very soon of a range of others, we strongly suspect we will see very good revenue growth from Nu. Q Vet through 2024. I'm also delighted in the progress we made in our Nu. Q nets pillar and in particular, in determining our regulatory pathway forward with the U. Speaker 200:24:52S. FDA, a key milestone for the company. Thirdly, I'm absolutely delighted with the breakthrough CTCF cancer detection method, which we published just last month at ESMO. This is based on 13 years of work on the chemistry of circulating chromatin fragments. We have developed What we believe is a transformational wet chemistry pathway that identifies and physically isolates chromatin fragments that we know are tumor derived from background DNA of the same sequence and then tested with a simple PCR panel to establish whether cancer is present. Speaker 200:25:28At true breakthrough moment, the first reported physical isolation of tumor drive circulating DNA fragments from blood. We believe that this method obviates expensive and time consuming DNA sequencing and bioinformatics allowing for rapid, Cost effective detection in a routine blood test. This has been a fantastic achievement by our research and development team and one which has kept the intellectual property team very busy. As you can imagine, we believe that this represents a tremendous opportunity, a paradigm shift, as it were, for cancer detection and indeed from this preliminary data, early cancer detection. This method could become a must have technology for everyone in the liquid biopsy space. Speaker 200:26:14Given its significance, we are very much open to licensing this technology. We have been very encouraged by the level of interest thus far from a range of different companies, and at this stage, nothing is off the table. Exclusive, non exclusive, global regional, cancer Pacific or pan cancer use. Exciting times, And this is exactly what we hoped for when we founded Volition. And so to sum up, I know it has been a long road to getting to where we are today, And I'm very proud of the progress we are making as a team at Volition and that we have stuck with it and got to where we are today. Speaker 200:26:51It's an exciting time for us as a company, and we look forward to sharing further updates and milestones with you over the coming quarters as we continue to adapt to the changing times and conditions to deliver on what we believe to be revolutionary technologies. In drawing this earnings call to a close, I'd like to thank you all for joining the call today. We very much appreciate it, given how much there is to digest across all of our pillars. We're happy to answer your questions now. Operator? Operator00:27:21Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Ross Osborne with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed. Speaker 600:27:57Hi, everyone. Congrats on the progress and thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:28:01Thank you. So just wanted Speaker 600:28:02to focus on Nu. Q Vet today, given that it's a most near term revenue opportunity. So with regards to the UK market, how much coverage do you think the 2 reference laboratories have there? Speaker 400:28:15Yes, great question, Ross. Thanks for asking it. I think we're going to have broad coverage for the UK. Both of these labs Nationwide and VPG have extensive coverage in the UK throughout and also VPG also has penetration into Ireland. So the answer to your question quite simply is broad coverage. Speaker 600:28:34Okay, great. And then maybe turning to IDEXX, Would you remind us the go to market strategy there just in terms of marketing reach and current capacity? Speaker 400:28:44Yes. IDEX obviously is both a domestic U. S. Company and has tremendous international exposure as well. They're currently we've been working with them over obviously over the course of their launch since January at VMX. Speaker 400:28:59They are highly engaged with us at the current time. They are obviously an extremely large company, A lot of moving parts. We had some early hiccups in the reference labs initially, which we have now smoothed out and they're working very well. And also we are extremely engaged with them in terms of collateral support and collaborative support on their educational awareness and they are planning Expansion in both domestically as well as internationally in 2024. So we really quite frankly, even though the ramp has been a little bit slower, One has to realize this is a new concept and a new discipline that's being brought to veterinarians cancer detection, but they are highly engaged with us and we anticipate a significant ramp up over the course of A significant ramp up over the course of 2024. Speaker 600:29:45Okay, great. And then last one and I'll jump back in the queue. You mentioned Your intention to commercialize in Japan and Taiwan in 2024. Could you just walk through the rationale for targeting those geographies specifically? Speaker 400:29:58Yes. To give you an idea, well, first of all, Japan, we're talking about a companion animal market of over 22,000,000 dogs and cats, Pretty significant number. I mean, we're talking in the U. S. $84,000,000 So that's a pretty large number compared to the U. Speaker 400:30:13S. In Japan, we're talking about 11,000 hospitals. In the U. S, we're talking about 26,000 hospitals, just to kind of give you some reference points. And then we have Taiwan, who's quite frankly grown 49% growth in their companion animals over the last 4 years. Speaker 400:30:28And they're up to somewhere over 2,000,000 pets, dogs in the current market right now with about 1600 veterinary hospitals. So I think between those two, giving you some numbers and comparing them to the U. S, You can see they're very nice opportunities for us and considerable potential expansion for us in both of those countries. Speaker 600:30:47Thank you for taking our questions. Congrats again. Speaker 200:30:49Thanks, Ross. Thank you. Have a great day. Operator00:30:53The next question comes from Ruth Jackson with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed. Speaker 700:30:59Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:31:02Thank you. Speaker 700:31:04So, just a couple of cash flow Questions. First on the payment from Walden, is that going to hit in the Q4? And then how much of that goes on the cash flow statement? Speaker 300:31:22Good question. It will all go to the cash flow statement. It's cash that we will get in, in the next month. We're also expecting more from a national level body in Belgium, probably Early Q1 next year, but these are in the form of Funding similar to what we've had before where we've had $19,000,000 of funding from the Walloon region in Belgium. This is a combination of grants and soft loans and that helped us To finance a lot of the operations, including our Silver One production facility in Belgium. Speaker 300:32:15And we're very grateful For the support that we've had from Belgium and the Walloon region. Speaker 700:32:24Okay. And then Same question for Heska. What's the timing and the amount of the milestone? And then how does that flow through the income statement? Speaker 800:32:35So Speaker 300:32:38the milestone will occur when Heska launches the product. How that flows through the income statement, it's a milestone payment, so similar To the first one that we received, we received $10,000,000 upfront, if you recall that. That goes on to the balance sheet As a deferred income and is then earned out as we make future sales. But as before, we could use them all immediately on arrival, if Speaker 200:33:10you will, for the company. So they're all Speaker 300:33:12very much It's all cash in the bank. So you'll see that cash on the balance sheet and it's available to us when we collect it. Speaker 200:33:23And Bruce, if you add it all up with the 2 the mouse we expect in from the regional funding and the Belgian funding As well as those milestone payments on the launches, you're looking well into the $20,000,000 range over $20,000,000 So obviously a very big part of the money will need to get the milestones reached next year. Speaker 300:33:44Yes. And perhaps I can add to that. With that funding, with the milestones, with the money from Belgium, with what we've got currently, we do have line of sight on funding From the end of Q3 through the next 12 months. Speaker 700:33:59Okay, super. Last question on the CTCF Research, I think you mentioned during the last webcast that there would be some more data coming out during the Q1. Is that still the case? Speaker 200:34:11Yes, absolutely. So obviously, it was very good preliminary data and we've had a lot of interest from partners, which We're very excited about it. It is bigger than us. So we're very excited. But of course, we're working all the time, not only on more data, which is obviously very important In a range of cancers, which we aim to be presenting at specific conferences for those cancers as well as been working on the it has not been optimized So we're going through all the things to optimize it to make it as simple and easy and as routine as possible. Speaker 200:34:44And also the optimizations That should also help with the overall accuracy. So overall, I think as you know, Bruce, I'm a very optimistic person, but Hi, I'm very, very happy and little surprised how quickly it's actually gone even since ESMO with the level of interest. And Jake's at a conference next week, the Liquid Basket Conference also in Madrid. So we're talking to a lot of other Potential partners there. So expect to see a lot of information through this year and into next year and data as we said in Q1. Speaker 700:35:19All right, great. Thank you for taking my questions. Speaker 200:35:22Thank you. Have a great day, Bruce. Operator00:35:26Our next question comes from Tim Moore with E. S. Hutton. Please proceed. Speaker 900:35:31Thanks. For new investors joining this call, maybe can you provide some anecdotes on how vets find your testing kits exciting and useful and conveying that Excitement to canine dog owners. Can you give any kind of interaction, anecdotes or color behind that? It's a rapid outcome test, but Vets seem to be buying into the adoption of the early cancers detection and probably spreading the word. I mean, any sense of That awareness for this rapid testing of cancer, you think like a third of vets know about it already? Speaker 400:36:05Yes. Thank you for the question. As I mentioned earlier in the call, early cancer detection is a new test and a new area of involvement My veterinary colleagues, so we are obviously going around the world in terms of conferences where we're speaking to both general practitioners as well as oncologists And also obviously spending a lot of time in the U. S. Going to major meetings. Speaker 400:36:31So what we're actually doing there is robust interest And the cancer screening test and they are learning from us as well as our partners on how to use the test and how to communicate it to the clients and how to bring it into their normal workload and normal exam room patterns when they interact with their clients and their pet owners. So consequently, the interest is significant. We're spending a lot more time on how to use the test now And how to communicate it and then what to do after you get something that comes back normal. But so you know the overall message with a screening test Is one of peace of mind because close to 92% of the dogs that get die 92% of the dogs are going to come back in the normal range and You have 6% to 8% potentially that are in the higher range. But unfortunately, in the United States, where 6,000,000 dogs a year can develop cancer, it's a large number. Speaker 400:37:26So overall, the education continues with IDEXX, with our partners, with Heska and also with my own team, the vet team here at Volition. And that is an ongoing thing that we will continue to do throughout 2024 2025. But the interest has been robust. The use is increasing dramatically And we're very excited about how our veterinary colleagues have received it. Speaker 900:37:49That's great color. I appreciate it. My next question is about Heska And the milestone payments to possibly be received over the next several months, is it fair to just assume that with any companies that get taken over like the Mars takeover, That might have slowed it down the milestone payment, but is it possible that Heska could maybe launch both screening and monitoring at the same time You can get a double milestone payment? Speaker 400:38:16Yes, I think that's a great question. To answer the first part of the question with reference to The acquisition of Heska via Mars, that really quite frankly hasn't slowed down the optimization process That we've been doing on the point of care. As I mentioned in my earlier comments on the video that we've done today, we're talking about a tech transfer Going from a reference lab test to a point of care test, which is something that my veterinary colleagues use in their veterinary hospitals, It is a major accomplishment to do something like that. And consequently, it has taken some time to do it and it's gone a little bit longer than we anticipated, but We're almost there. And when you think about it from a 12 month period of time when this was started to where we are now, it's a tremendous accomplishment. Speaker 400:39:04We were getting very close to a launch. So that point We were getting very close to a launch. So that point is well taken and hopefully understood. Speaker 900:39:14That's helpful. And then my last Speaker 200:39:16question, could they do them together launch screening and monitoring? Yes. Speaker 400:39:19The second part about screening and monitoring, Since I've been in the field of veterinary medicine for a number of years, what you really want to do is you want to make sure that you're getting your message across To the colleagues on not too many things at the same time, we want to be very clear on our Nu. Q cancer screening test, which is our first test And make sure they're using it, using it effectively. And that is the direction we're going in right now. And obviously, it's out there and thousands of tests have been run at this point in time and we'll Continue to do that. We will be entering the market with our monitoring application. Speaker 400:39:53We already have a peer review paper that came out in May of 2022. We are talking about it with our colleagues extensively, but we don't want to mix confuse the message. We anticipate that the monitoring We'll probably really be introduced, probably more like in the Q1 of 2024. And yes, To your point, will we get kind of a double with that between the screening and monitoring? Of course, because both of those tests will interact with each other And it will obviously bring even more credibility to both screening as well as monitoring. Speaker 400:40:25But we're focused on the screening first And now we'll continue on education of the doctors on the monitoring and that will follow suit after that. Speaker 900:40:33Great. That's helpful. My last question is just What do you think might be the timing timeframe of the feline test launch? Is that more of December next year? And can you remind me When that does occur, does that trigger a $5,000,000 milestone? Speaker 400:40:49Yes. The feline test right now is in its Pre analytic stage, we're going through pre analytic studies right now and then we're going to go through more clinical studies in 2024, early part of 2024. We'll be producing a paper on it by the first half of twenty twenty four. And then the anticipation is and the hope is That we will have a cancer screening test coming out of it that we can utilize in probably hopefully the second half of twenty twenty four. Once that is there, that should trigger A payment from Heska with reference to the feline program and particularly with reference to cancer in the cats. Speaker 900:41:25Great. Thanks. That's it for my questions. Speaker 400:41:27You're welcome. Speaker 200:41:28Thank you. Have a great day. The Operator00:41:30next question comes from Kyle Speaker 800:41:32Haycock with Zacks Investment. Please proceed. Operator00:41:32Hi, good morning. Please proceed. Speaker 1000:41:36Hi, good morning. Just a quick question on the R and D expenses. They were lower in the 3rd quarter than the 1st and second quarters of 2023. Do you think that was due to the winding down of the U. S. Speaker 1000:41:49Clinical activities Or the expense rationalization program or was it some other factors? Speaker 300:41:58So as I think we've mentioned we've had about $1,000,000 of Cash expenses in the quarter related to the DxO studies for the sepsis trial in the Yes, we don't we won't see that in the next quarter because those are now wound down. We have begun to see some savings from the rationalization program. But in our business, expenses are pretty lumpy. It's very difficult to see Smooth trends from one period to another. But what I can say is in terms of the underlying cash burn, We do expect that it's going to come down a little bit from here on. Speaker 900:42:56Great. Speaker 1000:42:58Yes. Thank you. And then just another quick one. At ESMO, I think you started to see some clinical results from the efforts From the National Taiwan University, do you know when you might expect some results from the U. S. Speaker 1000:43:14The IDN study? Speaker 200:43:18The process for the lung side has been quite active on both fronts. So we've wrapped human oncology together with the transcription factors And the actual data itself, I can get back to you. What's the time you're in? Speaker 1100:43:31So in terms of this, Lou Bachelor here. So in terms of the paper, the paper is now being written up by the National Taiwan University Group, led by Professor Chen. So they're working on a clinical paper that will then be submitted for peer review and publication. And then what we're looking to do from a lung cancer point of view now In terms of that specific application is a validation project, which is likely to be done in another market But we haven't yet finalized that study in order to announce that. Speaker 200:44:04And of course, there are a lot of results coming out of France as well. And we expect the first clinical use of Nu. Q in human oncology to be in France early next year in lung cancer with Doctor. Payan's facilities. So it's made progress and I think something we should reiterate quite a lot as well. Speaker 200:44:22The transcription factor is incredibly exciting, but Nu. Q platform itself is still very much Part of what we do, very active in the vet space of course, but also it has still a strong place in the human So human oncology will be a strong mixture I think of our Nu. Q platform and the transcription factor platform going forward. Speaker 1000:44:45Thank you very much for taking my questions. Speaker 200:44:48Thank you. Have a great day. Operator00:44:51The next question comes from Ilya Zbka with Freedom Broker. Please proceed. Speaker 800:44:57Yes, good morning and thank you for taking my question. Congrats with progress in the quarter. Could you share any details on the expected regulatory path On Nu. Q NET in U. S, what steps are left to go through there to go through to get FDA clearance rate? Speaker 200:45:18Yes, absolutely good question. So of course, we've been very active with the FDA and just starting off, it's very exciting to Robert hit the road if you will to be in such active discussions with the Food and Drug Administration is a very exciting milestone for us. So obviously we submitted a process and what we discussed last time is we're keen to either get a breakthrough designation status or a clear path Through a 510 which is potentially a very clear path and as we talked about we're very happy to say we do have a clear path now. The path itself is the 510 pass and that takes depending on the process and what data you need, but usually About 2.5 years from start to finish to get FDA approval. And obviously, I discussed a lot. Speaker 200:46:04We understand the conditions we're in now in the macro So we're looking to fund our projects, so that we don't we can limit to a very minimum any dilution from the top company. So we're working on ways to finance the net process. Obviously, we've had a lot of Belgian assistance and we've had some more coming through. We're also looking for similar funding in the U. S. Speaker 200:46:28And also looking to package up this to get a large diagnostic companies One of the large diagnostic companies perhaps interested in sharing the development costs to get through the FDA. So, we have a very clear path now, which is exciting. And we will be pressing the button once we're comfortable with the funding routes to get us where we need to get to. And in Europe, it is We sellable now as you're probably aware through our IBDD approval. So now we're doing market studies for marketing studies, if you will, To get adoption for clinical utility, so that will be coming out and we're also looking for a group to help fund The IVTR, which is the longer term European approval process, which is now taking over. Speaker 200:47:14So overall, we have a very clear path in Europe and in the U. S. And we're just very mindful, we don't want to start spending a lot of money until we've located the finance for it in a non dilutive fashion as humanly possible and that's all in the process now. So we should have a lot more information on that through the year. But the bottom line to your question is about 2.5 years Operator00:47:45Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:51Thank you, everyone. There's lots to be taking in at the moment. There's a tremendous amount going on in the company. And I think as you've probably taken from everything we've said, we're tremendously excited With all of the pillars now which are really coming through, but of course in this environment that excitement is tempered with the knowledge that we have to be Very careful with our capital, which we have been. We have a lot of sight to a lot of incoming money, which we've talked about. Speaker 200:48:16We're also pushing for as many other ways of funding what we do with as well as possible non dilutively. So we'll have a lot of information through the rest of the year. So we're looking forward to hopefully what's looking to be a strong vet ramp through next year as well as the other exciting breakthroughs that we have. So thank you very much for your time and I'm looking forward to speaking to you all soon with updates in all of our pillars. Thanks for your time. Operator00:48:44Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a great day.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Q3 revenue reached $165,000, a fivefold YoY increase, with cash on hand of $10.8 million and expected non-dilutive funding of ~$19 million from Belgian agencies and $13 million in Heska milestones. The Nu.Q Vet companion animal cancer test grew revenue nearly fivefold over the first nine months of 2023, launched in the UK with Nationwide and VPG, and is set to roll out in Taiwan (early 2024) and Japan while IDEXX and Heska advance point-of-care commercialization. Nu.Q NETs sepsis program gained strong KOL support, published a clinical paper correlating assay scores with mortality, secured a clear 510(k) pathway from the FDA via Q-Sub, and initiated a 500-patient prospective study at Guy’s & St. Thomas. Volition unveiled a breakthrough early cancer detection method isolating tumor-derived cfDNA fragments for simple PCR assays, demonstrating proof-of-concept in leukemia and colorectal cancer with >74% sensitivity and >92% specificity, and is engaging potential licensing partners. Net loss for Q3 was $8.5 million vs. $7.8 million last year, driven by $8.8 million in operating expenses and $8.4 million of net cash used in operations, underscoring continued cash burn despite cost-rationalization efforts. AI Generated. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to VolitionRx Limited Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, the conference call will be opened for 2Q followed by the number 2 on your touchtone phone. Operator00:00:28If you're using speaker equipment, please lift the handset before making your selection. This conference is being recorded today, November 15, 2023. I'd now like to turn the conference call over to Scott Powell, Executive Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to today's earnings conference call for VolitionRx Limited. This call will cover Volition's financial and operating results for the Q3 of 2023, along with a discussion of our recent activities and key upcoming milestones. Following our prepared remarks, We will open the conference call to a question and answer session. Also on our call today are Mr. Cameron Reynolds, President and Group Chief Executive Officer Mr. Speaker 100:01:18Terry Hughes, Group Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Tom Butera, Chief Executive Officer of our Volition Veterinary Subsidiary and Doctor. Andrew Reeder, Medical Consultant to Volition. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that some of the information discussed on this conference call will include forward looking statements covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based upon information currently available to us. Speaker 100:01:58Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual future results may vary significantly based on a number of factors that may cause the actual results or events to be materially different from future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by these statements. We have identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake an obligation to update any forward looking statements made during the course of this call. I would now like to turn the call over to our President and Group Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Speaker 100:02:58Cameron Reynolds. Gentlemen, Speaker 200:02:59thanks, Scott, and thank you, everyone, for joining Volition's Q3 2023 earnings call today. We We will commence the call with a financial report from our Group Chief Financial Officer, Tara Hughes before moving to Doctor. Tom Butera, our Chief Executive Officer of Volition Veterinary, for an update on the rollout of our Nu. Q Vet cancer test. And then I'm delighted that Doctor. Speaker 200:03:27Andy Retta, who works as a hematologist and intensive care consultant at one of the U. K. Leading hospitals, has pre recorded his thoughts on our progress in our Nu. Q. Nets pillar, and in particular, the result of our FDA meeting Achieving a Clear Regulatory Pathway and also of our recent breakthrough early cancer detection method recently presented at ESMO in October. Speaker 200:03:52I will wrap up with my thoughts and upcoming milestones and discuss our overall strategy going forward. Without further ado, I'll hand you across to Tarek for the financial report. Kerry? Speaker 300:04:04Thanks very much, Cameron, and thank you, everyone, for joining our earnings call today. I'll now provide a summary of the key financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2023. From a revenue perspective, We recorded revenue of $165,000 for the quarter, a fivefold increase over the same period last year. During the 1st 3 quarters of 2023, revenue grew 185 percent to $531,000 We believe that these results demonstrate steady growth, but not yet the ramp in revenues that we anticipate. We Revenues to accelerate as we close out 2023 and into the early part of 2024 as several additional distributors come online with our Nu. Speaker 300:04:47Q VetTest And our Nu. Q Discover pillar continues its growth. Year on year revenue growth was primarily driven by sales of the Nu. Q Vet cancer test, which grew almost fivefold over the 9 month period ended September 30, 2023, as compared to the prior year period, reflecting sales of the reference kits mostly through our agreement with IDEXX, who we are working closely with on their marketing and expansion plans across the U. S. Speaker 300:05:14And into international markets. Revenue for Nu. Q Discover for the 1st 3 quarters of 2023 was $151,000 which reflects 38% growth over the comparative period in 2022. Looking ahead, as we have previously stated, It is difficult in these early stages of commercialization to provide meaningful revenue guidance. But as both Tom and Cameron will cover in their updates, We are pleased with the progress we are making across a number of our product pillars. Speaker 300:05:44We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of approximately $10,800,000 compared to $10,900,000 at the end of 2022. Net cash used in operating activities during the quarter was approximately $8,400,000 And included payments of almost $1,000,000 related to our U. S. Clinical trial activities in sepsis, which have since wound down due to successful completion of The first phase. We are working hard to keep burn as low as possible while we commercialize a range of products and more on that shortly. Speaker 300:06:17Total operating expenses for the quarter were $8,800,000 compared to $8,000,000 for the Q3 of 2022. This increase was primarily the result of increased research and development expenditures, mainly reflecting the costs of our U. S. Clinical trials, which added $700,000 to the P and L costs in the quarter. Net loss for the quarter was $8,500,000 compared to $7,800,000 for the 3 months ended September 30, 2022. Speaker 300:06:47As ever, and in particular, given the current macroeconomic conditions, we remain committed to careful expenditure and tight budget control. And to that end, we have recently completed a rationalization project and identified annualized savings of approximately $2,000,000 Including a reduction in our overall headcount, it is a balance between investing in our product development and launches to ensure revenue growth and preserving precious capital. This is a balance we are very carefully and thoughtfully treading. To date, Various European funding bodies and in particular, Belgian agencies have provided the company with approximately $19,000,000 in non diluted funding in various Forms, including cash grants or loans on favorable terms. This cash has helped fund either wholly or in part our purpose built R and D facility And our manufacturing site SilverOne in Belgium, our innovation lab in California, the establishment of our Volition Veterinary subsidiary, various R and D programs and most recently, our Centers of Excellence program for Nu. Speaker 300:07:54Q NETs in Europe. Subsequent to quarter end, our Walloon Institutional Fund and Regional Government Bodies of the Walloon Region of Belgium Approved providing additional funding to the company, aggregating approximately $6,000,000 We are also expecting further amounts from other Belgian agencies to be secured in the Q1 of 2024. We would like to publicly thank the various government in Belgium for their continued support. We have also greatly expanded our efforts with respect to seeking non dilutive funding in the U. S. Speaker 300:08:29Our aim is to fund some of our major programs through either non dilutive or project financing, which we anticipate could potentially be of $25,000,000 over the next 2 years. Cameron will outline this strategy to fund our pillars going forward later in his portion of the call. Looking ahead, we also expect to receive a further $13,000,000 in milestone payments from the Heska Corporation. Clearly, these are challenging times at a macroeconomic level. However, I believe that we are well placed with our existing capital and expected near term incoming funds to execute the plan the team have in place for this final quarter and into 2024. Speaker 300:09:13And with that, I will pass over to Doctor. Tom Butera, CEO of our Volition Veterinary subsidiary. Tom? Thanks very much, Terry, and good morning, everybody. Speaker 400:09:23I am pleased to report that in the 1st 9 months of 2023, Revenue for the Nu. Q Vet Cancer Test grew almost fivefold over the comparable prior year period, reflecting sales of the reference kits to our global, regional and local supply agreements. The revenue growth demonstrates solid progress to date And we certainly expect more growth to come as additional companies fully launch our product both in the U. S. And around the world. Speaker 400:09:52As you will have seen in a recent announcement, our Nu. Q Vet cancer test is now available in the UK. Indeed, I am taking this call from London, England as the team is in town for the London VET Show over the coming days. We were thrilled the launch of our Nu. Q test was featured in an article of the Sunday Times, one of the flagship papers here in the UK, Really terrific exposure. Speaker 400:10:19The London Vet Show is Europe's largest veterinary exhibition with more than 20% of U. K. Vets attending the event. So we are looking forward to a busy few days, not only in the exhibition hall, But we also have a series of sponsored and invited talks on Friday with Doctor. Sue Ettinger and Becca Timmins. Speaker 400:10:39There are 11,000,000 pet dogs in the UK with 29% of the households owning 1 or more dogs, so we believe that the UK market provides another tremendous opportunity to drive access to our early detection test. We are delighted to be supplying 2 of the leading veterinary diagnostic providers in the UK, Nationwide Laboratories and Veterinary Pathology Group, both of whom will also be promoting the Nu. Q Vet Cancer Test at the London Vet Show. We expect exciting times ahead on this side of the pond. We are also making progress in our efforts to provide greater access to our Nu. Speaker 400:11:19Q Vet Cancer Test in Asia and will be launching with VITA Genomics in early 2024 in Taiwan and also anticipate announcing the launch in the early part of 2024 with a leading veterinary diagnostic provider in Japan. In terms of our global licensing and supply agreements, IDEXX continues to ramp up the availability of the Nu. Q test across its extensive U. S. Reference laboratory network. Speaker 400:11:48IDEXX is gearing up marketing efforts to drive awareness and trial of the product with U. S. Conference season just around the quarter in January February 2024. The Mars Heska Group continues to make very good progress as well and we hopefully anticipate the launch of their exclusive point of care test very soon, which would also trigger a milestone payment to us. From a research and development perspective, Under the guidance of Doctor. Speaker 400:12:17Heather Wilson Robles, Doctor. Justin Hines and Doctor. Becca Timmins, we are continuing to develop our feline product and we'll be expanding our Nu. Q platform into emergency medicine, specifically looking at natosis and I certainly look forward to bringing you more detailed updates on these two topics in the future. That's a quick update for me given our packed agenda today. Speaker 400:12:42I will now with great pleasure hand over to Doctor. Andrew Ritter, a hematologist and intensive care consultant at one of the UK's leading hospitals. Doctor. Redder has provided invaluable insights and guidance to the Volition team and presented at our Capital Markets Day earlier this year and at a number of informative webinars events the team has hosted. Doctor. Speaker 400:13:04Retter will be providing his view on our progress with Nu. Q NETs as well as discussing Volition's breakthrough method in early cancer detection. Andy, over to you. Speaker 500:13:15Thanks very much, Tom, for that introduction, and good morning, everybody. I'm delighted to join the call And provide an update on some of the significant progress made with Volition's Nu. Q NETs and cancer pillars. So Starting first with Nu. Q NETs and sepsis, which is how I first was introduced to Volition. Speaker 500:13:34Sepsis, as you've heard me say before, is one of the leading causes of death worldwide with almost 15,000,000 cases annually leading to unfortunately around 11,000,000 deaths. There is ongoing discussion about the diagnosis and definition of sepsis. Delitian has made significant progress this quarter, which is carried through into the Q4. In September, we hosted a key opinion leader roundtable event in Athens, Greece. This workshop held over the course of 2 days focused exclusively on sepsis and the potential role of new QNets. Speaker 500:14:11It was attended by some of the world's leading experts, including 3 authors of the highly influential and critical sepsis 3 Clinical definition paper. The current Chair of the International Sepsis Forum and the current Chair of the European Sepsis Alliance and many other attendees Our operating is a center of excellence within the new QNEDS program and so have first hand experience with the assay. We desperately need new diagnostics and new tools to measure the progression of sepsis and This may lead to new therapeutics. The sense from the group was that Nu. Q Net potentially represents One of the biggest breakthroughs in sepsis and the management of sepsis in the last 40 years. Speaker 500:15:00If you would like to find out more about the KOL meeting, A short report was issued and is available in the download section of the Volition website. Moving forward with this group, I'm now working on a clinical review article with the attention to submit it for peer review and publication in the Q1 of 2024. Speaking of publications, shortly after the event And subsequent to quarter end, in October, the first clinical paper from the Center of Excellence was published. This was published by Professor Guila Monterrey's group from Leon. The data published demonstrated a mortality signal. Speaker 500:15:35So the higher the score, unfortunately, the more likely a patient is to die. It also confirmed the correlation with Nu. Q NET and the SIFA score. The SIFA score is the current, But a little cumbersome AGRICATE score used to diagnose and monitor sepsis. It is mainly used in research trials as opposed to day to day practice at the bedside. Speaker 500:15:56As a clinician, the reason for the high level of interest and dare I say excitement about the results of Nu. Q nets That if we could establish a baseline and continue to monitor a patient with a simple blood test, this would be much more straightforward and more efficient than current practices. It also potentially provides us with a new therapeutic target to improve the care of our patients in the future. It is fantastic to have this first paper out, and we look forward to further data being published by Centers of Excellence in 2024 and beyond. Over in the U. Speaker 500:16:30S, I am pleased to report that Volition recently completed the Q sub process with the U. S. Food and Drug Administration. I am happy to announce that they have agreed the regulatory pathway of a traditional 510 path with an adjudicated clinical comparator. The Volition team is grateful for the opportunity to participate in the Q sub process and greatly appreciate the feedback from the FDA. Speaker 500:16:54These interactions were engaging and helpful, and Volition feels that such discussions gave it a clear regulatory path to follow for what we hope is an exciting opportunity. Finally, from a Nu. Q Net perspective, I'm happy to say The study at my own hospital, Guy's and St. Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust in London is about to open. Guy's and St. Speaker 500:17:17Thomas' is sponsoring the study and it is funded by Volition. As a reminder, this is a large scale 500 patient prospective study, which will run over the course of the next 12 to 18 months. It is fantastically up and running ahead of the winter months. I'd like to take just a few minutes to discuss Volition's For those with a particular interest in this topic, might I direct you again to the Volition website where you can view a recorded webinar about this exciting breakthrough. Cancer, as we all know, is a deadly disease, causing around 10,000,000 deaths a year. Speaker 500:18:02It is also set to grow as our population ages with estimates of 30 new 1,000,000 cases a year by 2,040. Like many diseases, early diagnosis has a significant impact on outcome. Putting it simply, the earlier we can diagnose cancer, The greater chance of survival and a good quality of life for our patients. Early diagnosis is challenging. Cancer develops silently with few symptoms and so frequently people are diagnosed late when there are few treatment options available Or when treatment is available, it is more invasive and more aggressive. Speaker 500:18:38Indeed, in the U. K. Where I work, About 45% of cancers are diagnosed at Stage III or Stage IV. In early stage cancer, it is difficult to detect cancer Derived circulating tumor DNA, so called ctDNA. CtDNA in the blood may compromise only 0.01 percent of the DNA present around a background of 99.99 percent cell free DNA circulating. Speaker 500:19:07Moreover, most of the cats to DNA have exactly the same sequence as normal DNA. Current ctDNA detection methods On the market and in development involve DNA extraction, sequencing of all the DNA in the sample, both cancer and normal, and analysis of the sequencing data using sophisticated computer bioinformatics to tell them apart. Volition has developed a novel method for liquid biopsy involving the first reported physical isolation of a class of tumor derived ctDNA fragments from blood. These cancer derived ctDNA fragments are then extracted after removal of all normal background DNA from the test. This allows detection with a simple low cost polymerase chain reaction. Speaker 500:19:58Volition's proof of concept data was presented at ESMO 2023 and demonstrates the isolation of tumor derived DNA fragments from plasma. Volition tested the new method in a first small clinical experiment and detected a range of liquids and other cancers, including early stage 1 disease. For example, 74% of leukemias were detected at 96% specificity And 77% of colorectal cancers were detected at 92% specificity using ctDNA and PCR assays. These early assays were developed using leukemia as a model to follow. Surprisingly, We also detected many other cancers, including colorectal cancer, in a blood test with an accuracy approaching that of the current fecal immunochemical tests. Speaker 500:20:52As Doctor. Jake Michalis, Volition's Chief Scientific Officer, known to many of you on the call today, previously stated, the results today Our exciting and paved the way for a whole new class of undiscovered biomarkers with potentially 100 of 1000 of possible targets. Volition is now developing a range of cancer specific assays, which it expects to be more accurate, both more sensitive and more specific than these preliminary results. And we really look forward to sharing progress in the beginning of Q1 of 2024. And drawing to a close, I'd like to express my own personal excitement about the progress of Both through Nu. Speaker 500:21:28Q and with respect to its recent potentially breakthrough cancer detection method. I believe that Volition's technologies will not only help with Diagnostic enrichment, but also with monitoring a patient's disease progression and response to treatment. Most incredibly, Accomplishing these goals with what should be a relatively low cost routine blood test, allowing it to be used around the world in multiple healthcare settings. Thank you very much for listening today. I will now pass you over to Cameron Reynolds for his final remarks. Speaker 500:22:00Thank you, Cameron. Speaker 200:22:03Thank you very much, Doctor. Andy Retter, for providing those insights, and thanks as always to Terrig and Tom for their reports. It's a real sign of the varied expertise we now have at Volition. 2023 thus far has certainly been transformational for Volition. But before I reflect on that, I'd like to take a moment to elucidate our financial strategy. Speaker 200:22:24Given the current macroeconomic conditions, We are focusing on getting each pillar to support itself, either through product revenues, milestone payments, at licensing or other non dilutive funding by the end of 2024. We are currently targeting the following: We expect Nu. Q Vet to be overall cash flow positive from now on through milestone payments and the expected revenue ramp as more partners launch and our existing partners expand into new territories. We expect Nu. Q Discover to more than double revenue in 2024 and to become profitable starting in 2025. Speaker 200:23:03We're running out of time to cover Discover separately on this call, but overall, we are very happy with progress with 9 contracts signed already and a further 10 currently in negotiation. Thirdly, we have begun a strategy to fund, As Tarek alluded to earlier, our Nu. Q nets pillar through non dilutive and or project funding of up to $25,000,000 We have targeted a range of government agencies in the U. S. And Europe and are also preparing the background work aimed at attracting a large player to either outlicense or invest in the product directly. Speaker 200:23:394th, lastly, as discussed by Gail Forteir, our Chief Commercial Officer, In our recent webinar, there has been a lot of external interest in our CTCF and UQ Cancer Technologies. Our strategy is to license this out to 1 or more larger companies as a commercial undertaking of this size is likely beyond our current capabilities. If successful, we believe this strategy could provide us ongoing royalties and very meaningful milestone payments in 2024. Given the current macroeconomic conditions, we believe these methods of funding the 4 pillars should provide us a very good basis to move forward. To date, in 2023, the commercialization of our transformational Nu. Speaker 200:24:23Q Vet Cancer Test within the companion animals healthcare sector has signed up several large new players with more to come. Given the ongoing bedding in of our existing partners and the expected launch very soon of a range of others, we strongly suspect we will see very good revenue growth from Nu. Q Vet through 2024. I'm also delighted in the progress we made in our Nu. Q nets pillar and in particular, in determining our regulatory pathway forward with the U. Speaker 200:24:52S. FDA, a key milestone for the company. Thirdly, I'm absolutely delighted with the breakthrough CTCF cancer detection method, which we published just last month at ESMO. This is based on 13 years of work on the chemistry of circulating chromatin fragments. We have developed What we believe is a transformational wet chemistry pathway that identifies and physically isolates chromatin fragments that we know are tumor derived from background DNA of the same sequence and then tested with a simple PCR panel to establish whether cancer is present. Speaker 200:25:28At true breakthrough moment, the first reported physical isolation of tumor drive circulating DNA fragments from blood. We believe that this method obviates expensive and time consuming DNA sequencing and bioinformatics allowing for rapid, Cost effective detection in a routine blood test. This has been a fantastic achievement by our research and development team and one which has kept the intellectual property team very busy. As you can imagine, we believe that this represents a tremendous opportunity, a paradigm shift, as it were, for cancer detection and indeed from this preliminary data, early cancer detection. This method could become a must have technology for everyone in the liquid biopsy space. Speaker 200:26:14Given its significance, we are very much open to licensing this technology. We have been very encouraged by the level of interest thus far from a range of different companies, and at this stage, nothing is off the table. Exclusive, non exclusive, global regional, cancer Pacific or pan cancer use. Exciting times, And this is exactly what we hoped for when we founded Volition. And so to sum up, I know it has been a long road to getting to where we are today, And I'm very proud of the progress we are making as a team at Volition and that we have stuck with it and got to where we are today. Speaker 200:26:51It's an exciting time for us as a company, and we look forward to sharing further updates and milestones with you over the coming quarters as we continue to adapt to the changing times and conditions to deliver on what we believe to be revolutionary technologies. In drawing this earnings call to a close, I'd like to thank you all for joining the call today. We very much appreciate it, given how much there is to digest across all of our pillars. We're happy to answer your questions now. Operator? Operator00:27:21Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Ross Osborne with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed. Speaker 600:27:57Hi, everyone. Congrats on the progress and thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:28:01Thank you. So just wanted Speaker 600:28:02to focus on Nu. Q Vet today, given that it's a most near term revenue opportunity. So with regards to the UK market, how much coverage do you think the 2 reference laboratories have there? Speaker 400:28:15Yes, great question, Ross. Thanks for asking it. I think we're going to have broad coverage for the UK. Both of these labs Nationwide and VPG have extensive coverage in the UK throughout and also VPG also has penetration into Ireland. So the answer to your question quite simply is broad coverage. Speaker 600:28:34Okay, great. And then maybe turning to IDEXX, Would you remind us the go to market strategy there just in terms of marketing reach and current capacity? Speaker 400:28:44Yes. IDEX obviously is both a domestic U. S. Company and has tremendous international exposure as well. They're currently we've been working with them over obviously over the course of their launch since January at VMX. Speaker 400:28:59They are highly engaged with us at the current time. They are obviously an extremely large company, A lot of moving parts. We had some early hiccups in the reference labs initially, which we have now smoothed out and they're working very well. And also we are extremely engaged with them in terms of collateral support and collaborative support on their educational awareness and they are planning Expansion in both domestically as well as internationally in 2024. So we really quite frankly, even though the ramp has been a little bit slower, One has to realize this is a new concept and a new discipline that's being brought to veterinarians cancer detection, but they are highly engaged with us and we anticipate a significant ramp up over the course of A significant ramp up over the course of 2024. Speaker 600:29:45Okay, great. And then last one and I'll jump back in the queue. You mentioned Your intention to commercialize in Japan and Taiwan in 2024. Could you just walk through the rationale for targeting those geographies specifically? Speaker 400:29:58Yes. To give you an idea, well, first of all, Japan, we're talking about a companion animal market of over 22,000,000 dogs and cats, Pretty significant number. I mean, we're talking in the U. S. $84,000,000 So that's a pretty large number compared to the U. Speaker 400:30:13S. In Japan, we're talking about 11,000 hospitals. In the U. S, we're talking about 26,000 hospitals, just to kind of give you some reference points. And then we have Taiwan, who's quite frankly grown 49% growth in their companion animals over the last 4 years. Speaker 400:30:28And they're up to somewhere over 2,000,000 pets, dogs in the current market right now with about 1600 veterinary hospitals. So I think between those two, giving you some numbers and comparing them to the U. S, You can see they're very nice opportunities for us and considerable potential expansion for us in both of those countries. Speaker 600:30:47Thank you for taking our questions. Congrats again. Speaker 200:30:49Thanks, Ross. Thank you. Have a great day. Operator00:30:53The next question comes from Ruth Jackson with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed. Speaker 700:30:59Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:31:02Thank you. Speaker 700:31:04So, just a couple of cash flow Questions. First on the payment from Walden, is that going to hit in the Q4? And then how much of that goes on the cash flow statement? Speaker 300:31:22Good question. It will all go to the cash flow statement. It's cash that we will get in, in the next month. We're also expecting more from a national level body in Belgium, probably Early Q1 next year, but these are in the form of Funding similar to what we've had before where we've had $19,000,000 of funding from the Walloon region in Belgium. This is a combination of grants and soft loans and that helped us To finance a lot of the operations, including our Silver One production facility in Belgium. Speaker 300:32:15And we're very grateful For the support that we've had from Belgium and the Walloon region. Speaker 700:32:24Okay. And then Same question for Heska. What's the timing and the amount of the milestone? And then how does that flow through the income statement? Speaker 800:32:35So Speaker 300:32:38the milestone will occur when Heska launches the product. How that flows through the income statement, it's a milestone payment, so similar To the first one that we received, we received $10,000,000 upfront, if you recall that. That goes on to the balance sheet As a deferred income and is then earned out as we make future sales. But as before, we could use them all immediately on arrival, if Speaker 200:33:10you will, for the company. So they're all Speaker 300:33:12very much It's all cash in the bank. So you'll see that cash on the balance sheet and it's available to us when we collect it. Speaker 200:33:23And Bruce, if you add it all up with the 2 the mouse we expect in from the regional funding and the Belgian funding As well as those milestone payments on the launches, you're looking well into the $20,000,000 range over $20,000,000 So obviously a very big part of the money will need to get the milestones reached next year. Speaker 300:33:44Yes. And perhaps I can add to that. With that funding, with the milestones, with the money from Belgium, with what we've got currently, we do have line of sight on funding From the end of Q3 through the next 12 months. Speaker 700:33:59Okay, super. Last question on the CTCF Research, I think you mentioned during the last webcast that there would be some more data coming out during the Q1. Is that still the case? Speaker 200:34:11Yes, absolutely. So obviously, it was very good preliminary data and we've had a lot of interest from partners, which We're very excited about it. It is bigger than us. So we're very excited. But of course, we're working all the time, not only on more data, which is obviously very important In a range of cancers, which we aim to be presenting at specific conferences for those cancers as well as been working on the it has not been optimized So we're going through all the things to optimize it to make it as simple and easy and as routine as possible. Speaker 200:34:44And also the optimizations That should also help with the overall accuracy. So overall, I think as you know, Bruce, I'm a very optimistic person, but Hi, I'm very, very happy and little surprised how quickly it's actually gone even since ESMO with the level of interest. And Jake's at a conference next week, the Liquid Basket Conference also in Madrid. So we're talking to a lot of other Potential partners there. So expect to see a lot of information through this year and into next year and data as we said in Q1. Speaker 700:35:19All right, great. Thank you for taking my questions. Speaker 200:35:22Thank you. Have a great day, Bruce. Operator00:35:26Our next question comes from Tim Moore with E. S. Hutton. Please proceed. Speaker 900:35:31Thanks. For new investors joining this call, maybe can you provide some anecdotes on how vets find your testing kits exciting and useful and conveying that Excitement to canine dog owners. Can you give any kind of interaction, anecdotes or color behind that? It's a rapid outcome test, but Vets seem to be buying into the adoption of the early cancers detection and probably spreading the word. I mean, any sense of That awareness for this rapid testing of cancer, you think like a third of vets know about it already? Speaker 400:36:05Yes. Thank you for the question. As I mentioned earlier in the call, early cancer detection is a new test and a new area of involvement My veterinary colleagues, so we are obviously going around the world in terms of conferences where we're speaking to both general practitioners as well as oncologists And also obviously spending a lot of time in the U. S. Going to major meetings. Speaker 400:36:31So what we're actually doing there is robust interest And the cancer screening test and they are learning from us as well as our partners on how to use the test and how to communicate it to the clients and how to bring it into their normal workload and normal exam room patterns when they interact with their clients and their pet owners. So consequently, the interest is significant. We're spending a lot more time on how to use the test now And how to communicate it and then what to do after you get something that comes back normal. But so you know the overall message with a screening test Is one of peace of mind because close to 92% of the dogs that get die 92% of the dogs are going to come back in the normal range and You have 6% to 8% potentially that are in the higher range. But unfortunately, in the United States, where 6,000,000 dogs a year can develop cancer, it's a large number. Speaker 400:37:26So overall, the education continues with IDEXX, with our partners, with Heska and also with my own team, the vet team here at Volition. And that is an ongoing thing that we will continue to do throughout 2024 2025. But the interest has been robust. The use is increasing dramatically And we're very excited about how our veterinary colleagues have received it. Speaker 900:37:49That's great color. I appreciate it. My next question is about Heska And the milestone payments to possibly be received over the next several months, is it fair to just assume that with any companies that get taken over like the Mars takeover, That might have slowed it down the milestone payment, but is it possible that Heska could maybe launch both screening and monitoring at the same time You can get a double milestone payment? Speaker 400:38:16Yes, I think that's a great question. To answer the first part of the question with reference to The acquisition of Heska via Mars, that really quite frankly hasn't slowed down the optimization process That we've been doing on the point of care. As I mentioned in my earlier comments on the video that we've done today, we're talking about a tech transfer Going from a reference lab test to a point of care test, which is something that my veterinary colleagues use in their veterinary hospitals, It is a major accomplishment to do something like that. And consequently, it has taken some time to do it and it's gone a little bit longer than we anticipated, but We're almost there. And when you think about it from a 12 month period of time when this was started to where we are now, it's a tremendous accomplishment. Speaker 400:39:04We were getting very close to a launch. So that point We were getting very close to a launch. So that point is well taken and hopefully understood. Speaker 900:39:14That's helpful. And then my last Speaker 200:39:16question, could they do them together launch screening and monitoring? Yes. Speaker 400:39:19The second part about screening and monitoring, Since I've been in the field of veterinary medicine for a number of years, what you really want to do is you want to make sure that you're getting your message across To the colleagues on not too many things at the same time, we want to be very clear on our Nu. Q cancer screening test, which is our first test And make sure they're using it, using it effectively. And that is the direction we're going in right now. And obviously, it's out there and thousands of tests have been run at this point in time and we'll Continue to do that. We will be entering the market with our monitoring application. Speaker 400:39:53We already have a peer review paper that came out in May of 2022. We are talking about it with our colleagues extensively, but we don't want to mix confuse the message. We anticipate that the monitoring We'll probably really be introduced, probably more like in the Q1 of 2024. And yes, To your point, will we get kind of a double with that between the screening and monitoring? Of course, because both of those tests will interact with each other And it will obviously bring even more credibility to both screening as well as monitoring. Speaker 400:40:25But we're focused on the screening first And now we'll continue on education of the doctors on the monitoring and that will follow suit after that. Speaker 900:40:33Great. That's helpful. My last question is just What do you think might be the timing timeframe of the feline test launch? Is that more of December next year? And can you remind me When that does occur, does that trigger a $5,000,000 milestone? Speaker 400:40:49Yes. The feline test right now is in its Pre analytic stage, we're going through pre analytic studies right now and then we're going to go through more clinical studies in 2024, early part of 2024. We'll be producing a paper on it by the first half of twenty twenty four. And then the anticipation is and the hope is That we will have a cancer screening test coming out of it that we can utilize in probably hopefully the second half of twenty twenty four. Once that is there, that should trigger A payment from Heska with reference to the feline program and particularly with reference to cancer in the cats. Speaker 900:41:25Great. Thanks. That's it for my questions. Speaker 400:41:27You're welcome. Speaker 200:41:28Thank you. Have a great day. The Operator00:41:30next question comes from Kyle Speaker 800:41:32Haycock with Zacks Investment. Please proceed. Operator00:41:32Hi, good morning. Please proceed. Speaker 1000:41:36Hi, good morning. Just a quick question on the R and D expenses. They were lower in the 3rd quarter than the 1st and second quarters of 2023. Do you think that was due to the winding down of the U. S. Speaker 1000:41:49Clinical activities Or the expense rationalization program or was it some other factors? Speaker 300:41:58So as I think we've mentioned we've had about $1,000,000 of Cash expenses in the quarter related to the DxO studies for the sepsis trial in the Yes, we don't we won't see that in the next quarter because those are now wound down. We have begun to see some savings from the rationalization program. But in our business, expenses are pretty lumpy. It's very difficult to see Smooth trends from one period to another. But what I can say is in terms of the underlying cash burn, We do expect that it's going to come down a little bit from here on. Speaker 900:42:56Great. Speaker 1000:42:58Yes. Thank you. And then just another quick one. At ESMO, I think you started to see some clinical results from the efforts From the National Taiwan University, do you know when you might expect some results from the U. S. Speaker 1000:43:14The IDN study? Speaker 200:43:18The process for the lung side has been quite active on both fronts. So we've wrapped human oncology together with the transcription factors And the actual data itself, I can get back to you. What's the time you're in? Speaker 1100:43:31So in terms of this, Lou Bachelor here. So in terms of the paper, the paper is now being written up by the National Taiwan University Group, led by Professor Chen. So they're working on a clinical paper that will then be submitted for peer review and publication. And then what we're looking to do from a lung cancer point of view now In terms of that specific application is a validation project, which is likely to be done in another market But we haven't yet finalized that study in order to announce that. Speaker 200:44:04And of course, there are a lot of results coming out of France as well. And we expect the first clinical use of Nu. Q in human oncology to be in France early next year in lung cancer with Doctor. Payan's facilities. So it's made progress and I think something we should reiterate quite a lot as well. Speaker 200:44:22The transcription factor is incredibly exciting, but Nu. Q platform itself is still very much Part of what we do, very active in the vet space of course, but also it has still a strong place in the human So human oncology will be a strong mixture I think of our Nu. Q platform and the transcription factor platform going forward. Speaker 1000:44:45Thank you very much for taking my questions. Speaker 200:44:48Thank you. Have a great day. Operator00:44:51The next question comes from Ilya Zbka with Freedom Broker. Please proceed. Speaker 800:44:57Yes, good morning and thank you for taking my question. Congrats with progress in the quarter. Could you share any details on the expected regulatory path On Nu. Q NET in U. S, what steps are left to go through there to go through to get FDA clearance rate? Speaker 200:45:18Yes, absolutely good question. So of course, we've been very active with the FDA and just starting off, it's very exciting to Robert hit the road if you will to be in such active discussions with the Food and Drug Administration is a very exciting milestone for us. So obviously we submitted a process and what we discussed last time is we're keen to either get a breakthrough designation status or a clear path Through a 510 which is potentially a very clear path and as we talked about we're very happy to say we do have a clear path now. The path itself is the 510 pass and that takes depending on the process and what data you need, but usually About 2.5 years from start to finish to get FDA approval. And obviously, I discussed a lot. Speaker 200:46:04We understand the conditions we're in now in the macro So we're looking to fund our projects, so that we don't we can limit to a very minimum any dilution from the top company. So we're working on ways to finance the net process. Obviously, we've had a lot of Belgian assistance and we've had some more coming through. We're also looking for similar funding in the U. S. Speaker 200:46:28And also looking to package up this to get a large diagnostic companies One of the large diagnostic companies perhaps interested in sharing the development costs to get through the FDA. So, we have a very clear path now, which is exciting. And we will be pressing the button once we're comfortable with the funding routes to get us where we need to get to. And in Europe, it is We sellable now as you're probably aware through our IBDD approval. So now we're doing market studies for marketing studies, if you will, To get adoption for clinical utility, so that will be coming out and we're also looking for a group to help fund The IVTR, which is the longer term European approval process, which is now taking over. Speaker 200:47:14So overall, we have a very clear path in Europe and in the U. S. And we're just very mindful, we don't want to start spending a lot of money until we've located the finance for it in a non dilutive fashion as humanly possible and that's all in the process now. So we should have a lot more information on that through the year. But the bottom line to your question is about 2.5 years Operator00:47:45Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:51Thank you, everyone. There's lots to be taking in at the moment. There's a tremendous amount going on in the company. And I think as you've probably taken from everything we've said, we're tremendously excited With all of the pillars now which are really coming through, but of course in this environment that excitement is tempered with the knowledge that we have to be Very careful with our capital, which we have been. We have a lot of sight to a lot of incoming money, which we've talked about. Speaker 200:48:16We're also pushing for as many other ways of funding what we do with as well as possible non dilutively. So we'll have a lot of information through the rest of the year. So we're looking forward to hopefully what's looking to be a strong vet ramp through next year as well as the other exciting breakthroughs that we have. So thank you very much for your time and I'm looking forward to speaking to you all soon with updates in all of our pillars. Thanks for your time. Operator00:48:44Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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