Bausch Health Companies Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 2, 2023

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Bausch Health Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Lisa Wilson. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Bausch Health's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. This is Lisa Wilson, Investor Relations for Bausch Health. Participating in today's call are Thomas Appio, Chief Executive Officer of Bausch Health and John Varesi, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that our presentation today contains forward looking information. We ask you to take a moment to read the forward looking statements disclaimer at the beginning of the slides that accompany this presentation as it contains important information.

Speaker 1

Our actual results may vary materially from those expressed or implied in our forward looking statements, and you should not place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings and filings with the Canadian Securities Administrators for a list of some of the factors that could cause our actual results To differ materially from our expectations, we use non GAAP financial measures to help investors understand our ongoing business performance. Non GAAP financial measures may not be comparable to similarly titled measures used by other companies and should be considered along with, but not as an alternative to, measures calculated in accordance with GAAP. You will find reconciliations to our non GAAP measures in the appendix of the slides that accompany this presentation, which are available on Bausch Health's Investor Relations website. Finally, the financial guidance in this Presentation is effective as of today only.

Speaker 1

We do not undertake any obligation to update guidance. Our discussion today will focus on Bausch Health, excluding Bausch and Lomb. However, we will briefly comment on Bausch and Lomb's results announced For the benefit of those who may be listening to the replay or archived webcast, this call was held and recorded on November 2, 2023. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Thomas Appio. Tom?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Lisa, And welcome to those of you joining the call this morning. At Bausch Health, our team is focused on enriching lives through our relentless drive to create better Health outcomes for our patients and the physicians who treat them. The BHC team is tirelessly dedicated to business performance, Driving results and progressing our key strategic objectives. We continue to demonstrate this commitment in the Q3. Let me share some highlights.

Speaker 2

Turning to Slide 6. From a performance standpoint, we had another solid quarter with revenues for Bausch Health excluding BNL Of $1,230,000,000 up $127,000,000 or 12% on a reported basis and 10% on an organic basis. I am pleased to share that each of our 4 segments posted revenue growth in the quarter, which we will discuss in more detail later. We continue to progress our R and D pipeline. On October 20, we received FDA approval for IDP-one hundred and twenty six, Now branded as Captrio.

Speaker 2

We continue to defend our intellectual property rights for XIFAXAN. The consolidated appeals of the Delaware Court's ruling are ongoing at the Court of Appeals for the Federal District Circuit. Briefing is now complete and we are awaiting a date for oral argument. We expect the decision by the end of Q1 2024 and remain confident in our position. With regard to Norwich's lawsuit against the FDA in the DC District Court Where Norwich was seeking immediate approval of their ANDA, oral argument was held on October 6, 2023.

Speaker 2

On November 1, The court denied Norwich's motion and granted summary judgment in favor of the FDA and Salix. We are fully committed to vigorously defend our intellectual property and providing healthcare providers and patients with safe and effective treatment options. We also continue to evaluate strategies regarding the potential full separation of Bausch Lomb, which I will discuss later. And in the meantime, we remain focused on managing our balance sheet. We reduced our debt Net of cash by approximately $150,000,000 in the quarter.

Speaker 2

And lastly, now that we are 3 quarters of the way through 2023, We are updating our guidance for BHC, excluding BNL to a narrower band within our previously disclosed ranges. Let me now start by sharing some of our business performance highlights as shown on Slide 7. This quarter, all Of our Bausch Health segments delivered revenue growth year over year with Salix International and Solta Medical growing by double digits on a reported basis. Let us take each segment in turn. Salix.

Speaker 2

Q3 net sales for Salix grew 13% on both a reported and organic basis, While about half of the growth in the quarter was a result of wholesaler stocking patterns, we are encouraged by continued underlying growth in this segment, including for TRULANCE and RELISTOR. And building on the plan we laid out last year, we are continuing to focus Our commercial investments in sales and marketing to spread awareness of the underlying medical conditions and the options that are available to treat these conditions. You may have seen our recent press release announcing our partnership with Bellamy Young, who is speaking out to help educate patients, Families and caregivers impacted by hepatic encephalopathy also known as HE. These efforts reflect our commitment to driving long term profitable growth in this important franchise. Turning to international.

Speaker 2

Revenues grew by 10% on a reported basis in the 3rd quarter and 4% on an organic basis, led by strong performances in Latin America and Poland. In Solta Medical, revenues increased by 15% on a reported basis and 17% on an organic basis, reflecting strong growth In the Asia Pacific region, including China and low single digit growth in the U. S. Market. Notably, more than 70% of Solta revenues are generated from consumable sales, representing Attractive and very durable business profile where we see significant opportunity for long term growth.

Speaker 2

Efforts are underway to accelerate growth in our largest markets, expand our sales teams in the U. S. And Europe and advance our pipeline of new market authorizations and next generation products. Our Solta team is focused on continuing to build a world class aesthetics business. Turning to diversified, revenues increased by 9% On both a reported and organic basis in the quarter, our neurology and generic units reported growth in Q3 3, as both businesses benefited from their ability to address short term supply disruptions that arose in the market.

Speaker 2

While we are obviously pleased with this performance, the continuation of these tailwinds is uncertain. In particular, the neurology and dermatology businesses Continue to face long term challenges. Nonetheless, these businesses are highly profitable and cash generative, And we continue to look for opportunities to make targeted investments where appropriate. In neurology, we are Excited about our recently launched marketing campaign for aplentan focused on seasonal affective disorder, also known as SAD. In dermatology, we continue to focus on building consumer awareness for Juglia.

Speaker 2

And as I mentioned earlier, on October 20, we received FDA approval of CabTrio. We are looking forward to providing patients with this innovative product beginning in 2024. In the Q3, dentistry revenues declined slightly ending down 4% year over year after posting solid growth in the 1st two quarters of the year. We expect dentistry to return to growth as we begin to benefit from the investments we have made, Increasing consumer awareness efforts for Arestin, including our Cover Your Basis campaign in collaboration with Alex Rodriguez to raise awareness about the prevalence and the impact of gum disease. We have also strategically deployed our sales team with greater focus on each Of the 2 customer segments, the Dental Support Organizations and Private Practice Dentists.

Speaker 2

We are pleased With the strong performance of our business in the Q3, we have also continued to focus on the other areas of strategic importance since our last call. You will recall that in January of this year, we had reached a tentative settlement with the IRS to resolve the Granite Trust matter. We expect the settlement to be finalized in the coming months. As we have previously said, the anticipated of the settlement does not have a material impact on the company's results or cash flows. We continue to believe that the separation of BNL Makes strategic sense.

Speaker 2

Any decision regarding if and when a distribution occurs or its structure Will be based on and subject to any assessment of all the relevant factors and circumstances. Any potential distribution will also be subject to shareholder and other applicable approvals. In the meantime, we continue our focus on managing our balance sheet and growing our business for the long term. To that end, we finished quarter with more than $1,000,000,000 of liquidity. Let me now briefly cover the recent progress we have made advancing our Pipeline as shown on Slide 8.

Speaker 2

Starting with our Salix pipeline. Our Red Sea program for rifaximin for reduction of Early decompensation in cirrhosis continues to advance. This global program is focused On developing novel formulations and assessing the efficacy of rifaximin SSD formulation versus placebo to delay the occurrence Of HE related hospitalizations, we expect to complete enrollment of 2 global Phase 3 trials With approximately 1,000 patients across the major markets of North America, Europe and Asia Pacific in the Q1 of 2024. Bramicillimod, a new oral selective S1P receptor modulator that targets the treatment of mild to moderate ulcerative colitis. The Phase 2 study completed enrollment in July of this year.

Speaker 2

This is a large Phase 2 study with over 300 patients in 19 countries and the induction phase of this study is expected to be completed in the Q4. In dermatology, we are pleased that the FDA approved Captrio, The brand name for IDP-one hundred and twenty six indicated for the treatment of acne vulgaris in patients 12 years of age and older. Captrio is the 1st and only FDA approved fixed dose triple combination topical medication for acne. We are excited to bring this product to the millions of patients who suffer from acne each year. Captrio Has the potential not only to simplify dosing with a once daily topical regime, but also to improve patient outcomes.

Speaker 2

Cabtrio utilizes 3 mechanisms of action to treat acne, combining an antibiotic, Antibacterial and retinoid to provide a novel, effective and tolerable treatment that addresses 3 of the 4 Pathogenic factors that cause acne. We expect to launch CabTrio in the United States in the Q1 of 2024. We have also submitted Cabtrillo for approval with Health Canada and expect to be poised for launch of Cabtrillo in Canada in the second half of 2024. Our Solta pipeline is very active as well. Our FDA submission for our next Generation Fraxel, a fractionated laser device for skin resurfacing is planned for the Q1 of 2024 with approval expected sometime in the first half of next year.

Speaker 2

Our program for Clear and Brilliant Touch, A fractionated laser device for skin rejuvenation is also advancing with regulatory submissions planned in 2024 for Europe, Canada and Asia Pacific markets. As a leadership team, we remain committed to driving growth To commercial excellence, intensifying our focus on business development and expanding and progressing our pipeline, all with a patient centered mentality. With that, I would like to turn the call over to John Barese, who will provide further details On our Q3 performance, John?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Tom. Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining us. We closed the Q3 with consolidated revenues for Bausch Health of $2,200,000,000 up 9% on both a reported and organic basis Up 12% on a reported basis and up 10% on an organic basis year over year with growth in all of our segments. Let's dive into the revenue performance for each segment in more detail, starting on slide 11 with Salix. 3rd quarter Salix revenues increased 13% on both an organic and reported basis to $614,000,000 driven by growth in our core products, including XIFAXAN five fifty, RELISTOR and TRULANCE.

Speaker 3

Year over year growth in Salix was led by XIFAXAN, which grew 13% in the Q3 compared to the same quarter last year. Revenue growth benefited from a year over year increase in wholesale channel inventory. We are continuing to observe a shift in demand from the retail to the non retail channel, particularly in hospital and clinic generated demand, which is not necessarily fully captured in the TRx data. Extended unit demand growth was approximately 1% year over year, while retail prescriptions were flat. We are also pleased with the 3rd quarter sales performance of RELISTOR and TRULANCE, which posted year over year increases of 28% 10% with total script growth of 10% 15% respectively.

Speaker 3

International revenues were $275,000,000 during the quarter, An increase of 10% on a reported basis and 4% on an organic basis compared to the prior year period led by strong performances in Latin America and Poland. Ulta Medical revenues were $83,000,000 during the Q3, an increase of 15% on a reported basis and 17% on an organic basis over the prior year period. Revenue growth was driven by strong demand in the Asia Pacific region, including China as well as modest growth in the U. S. Where we are investing in marketing and in expanding our sales force.

Speaker 3

With more than 70% of the revenue for this business coming from consumables And with the focus on the pipeline that Tom discussed earlier, we believe Solta Medical is primed for continued near and long term growth globally. Diversified revenues were $259,000,000 an increase of 9% on both a reported and organic basis in the 3rd quarter. Both neurology and generics delivered year over year growth as they benefited from what we believe to be product availability constraints among competing products in the quarter. Dentistry experienced low single digit declines. For dentistry, this decline came after 2 quarters of solid growth and we continue to invest in this business for the long term.

Speaker 3

The neurology and dermatology businesses continue to operate in challenging environments facing long term headwinds with roughly 70% of the diversified segment's revenues coming from products that are past their LOE dates. In neurology, we continue to see volume erosion for Wellbutrin and are moderating our expectations for aplenzi in a difficult commercial coverage environment. In dermatology, we expect positive demand growth for Jublia to continue To be offset by net pricing pressure as well as continued pressure on our non promoted products. Based on these factors, in the Q3, we revised our long term outlook for these businesses and recorded goodwill impairments of approximately $250,000,000 for neurology $150,000,000 for dermatology. We are managing the portfolio of products for these businesses, which remain highly profitable and cash generative to balance the revenue trajectory and overall profitability.

Speaker 3

As shown on slide 12, Bausch and loan revenues were $1,000,000,000 during the 3rd quarter, up 7% on a reported basis and organic basis Compared to the prior year with growth across all B and L segments. Turning to the Q3 P and L on slide 15. 3rd quarter consolidated adjusted gross margin was 72.3%, 80 basis points higher compared with the prior year. For Bausch Health excluding B plus L, adjusted gross margin for the Q3 was 81.3%, an increase of 50 basis points from last year. At B plus L, adjusted gross margin was 80 basis points higher compared with Q3 of 2022.

Speaker 3

Consolidated adjusted operating expense for the Q3 were $833,000,000 an increase of $75,000,000 or 9% on a constant currency basis, driven by higher SG and A expenses, reflecting investments in sales and marketing and higher R and D. For Bausch Health excluding B plus L, adjusted operating expenses increased by approximately $36,000,000 while BNL reported an increase of $39,000,000 in operating expenses. The increase in operating expenses for Bausch Health excluding B plus L was driven by selling and marketing expenses as well as R and D investment. Selling and A and P increased largely due to the investments we are making in the Salix sales force, including our go to market channels and advertising and promotional activity. Adjusted G and A for Bausch Health excluding B and L was slightly favorable compared to the prior year.

Speaker 3

Consolidated R and D expense for the quarter was $153,000,000 an increase of 15% compared to the prior year and represented 6.9% of product sales compared with 6.6% for the prior year period. For Bausch Health excluding BNL, R and D expenses of $71,000,000 increased by $15,000,000 due primarily to the focus on our clinical programs and regulatory activities to support our mid and late stage product development in the Salix segment. 3rd quarter consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $830,000,000 an increase of $64,000,000 or 80% on a reported basis and 10% on a constant currency basis. For Bausch Health excluding B plus L, adjusted EBITDA was $664,000,000 an increase of approximately 10% from last year, reflecting the factors previously described. On a consolidated basis, 3rd quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 37%, which was flat compared to last year.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA margin for Bausch Health excluding B plus L was 53.9% And for Bausch and Lomb was 18.6%. Turning to cash flow. On a consolidated basis, Bausch Health generated $642,000,000 in operating cash flow in the 1st 9 months. As with recent quarters, we have also reclassified a portion of our cash interest payments financing cash flows as a result of the accounting treatment for the bonds issued as part of our 2022 debt exchange. Adjusted cash flow from operations on a consolidated basis in the 1st 9 months was $458,000,000 For Bausch Health excluding B plus L, Year to date adjusted cash flow from operations was $430,000,000 which was in line with our expectations.

Speaker 3

Adjusted cash flow includes adjustments for the payment of separation costs, business transformation costs and insurance settlement proceeds and also includes payment of the full contractual interest. Now let's turn to our balance sheet on slide 16. We continue to prioritize liquidity management and the delevering of our balance sheet. And in the Q3 of 2023, we reduced our debt net of cash for Bausch Health excluding BNL by approximately $150,000,000 including fully repaying our revolver and considering our borrowings under the AR facility that we closed in the 2nd quarter. At the end of the Q3, we had $350,000,000 outstanding under the accounts receivable facility and had no outstanding borrowings $950,000,000 of availability under our revolving credit facility.

Speaker 3

As shown on Slides 1718, Total debt for Bausch Health excluding Bausch and Lomb at the end of the quarter was $16,400,000,000 which consisted of $15,100,000,000 of restricted debt Issued by Bausch Health Excluding B and L and $1,300,000,000 of unrestricted debt, which includes the $1,000,000,000 of senior secured notes by the unrestricted subsidiary created in the Q3 of last year and the $350,000,000 drawn under our AR facility. Excluding B plus L debt, approximately 85% of our debt is fixed and approximately 70% of the company's debt on a consolidated basis is fixed. Net debt for Bausch Health excluding B plus L is down approximately $420,000,000 in the 9 months since the beginning of this fiscal year. With 3 quarters of the year behind us, we have updated our 2023 guidance within our previously disclosed ranges for Bausch Health excluding BNL, which can be viewed on slide 21. For Bausch Health excluding B plus L, we expect revenues in the range of $4,550,000,000 to 4.6 $5,000,000,000 in line with our previous outlook, although with 1 quarter to go we have narrowed the range.

Speaker 3

We are raising our organic growth guidance To 4% to 6%, up from 2% to 5%. Our revenue and organic growth guidance reflects the business performance trends we have discussed And for reported revenue reflects the impact of FX, which has been a headwind since our last guidance update in August. For Salix, we typically see a seasonal step up in sales in the second half, particularly in XIFAXAN, primarily due to wholesaler inventory dynamics, a part of which we saw late in Q3 of this year as well as patient level patterns related to insurance deductible activity. As we continue to realize benefits from our commercial investments, we expect full year growth for Salix in the mid to high single digit range and in line with our expectations going into the year. For international, we expect overall full year growth to be in line with the 1st 3 quarters of the year.

Speaker 3

We have a balanced portfolio from both a product and geography perspective, which helps this segment deliver consistent performance. For Solta, we anticipate continued strong reported and organic growth for the full year. For Diversified, we expect year sales to decline in line with the segment's year to date performance due largely to the pressures I referred to earlier on the neurology and dermatology businesses. We continue to expect gross margin to be in the 80% range in line with prior guidance. We also continue to expect our full year adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our previous Guidance, but one quarter to go are also narrowing the range here with adjusted EBITDA for Bausch Health excluding B plus L expected to be in the range of $2,300,000,000 to $2,350,000,000 within the range we had previously provided.

Speaker 3

As we've discussed in prior quarters, our adjusted EBITDA guidance reflects the acceleration of approximately $50,000,000 in R and D spend from 2024 for critical programs, which is higher R and D investment in 2023 and contemplated when we initially provided guidance for the year. Adjusted EBITDA guidance also includes the impact of charges for the EMRADE recall that primarily occurred in Q2. On the expense side, we will continue to invest in sales and marketing activities to drive growth in our key brands in our Salix, International and Solta Medical segments. These expenditures include sales force expansion, DTC advertising and investments in sales force tools. As Tom mentioned, We expect to see the effects from these initiatives on revenues continue through the remainder of this year.

Speaker 3

Moving below adjusted EBITDA, We are reaffirming our full year effective non GAAP tax rate of approximately 15% as well as holding our expected contractual interest costs unchanged at Approximately $1,300,000,000 Lastly, we are reaffirming our guidance for adjusted operating cash flow for Bausch Health Excluding B and L of approximately $625,000,000 As I said earlier, adjusted cash flow includes adjustments for the payment of separation costs, The payment of the full contractual interest and also includes the estimated impact of cash tax payments, inclusive of the tentative Granite Trust settlement, which we expect to be finalized with the IRS in the coming months. I'll now hand the call

Speaker 2

back to Tom. Thank you, John. In summary, as you have heard today, we continue to make solid progress against the strategic priorities we set out at the beginning of the year. We recognize that there is more to do and that some of our businesses face challenges. With 1 quarter to go in 2023, We are focused on closing the year strong and carrying that momentum into 2024.

Speaker 2

I want to reinforce our entire team's commitment to driving business performance and Delivering against our strategic priorities, which remain intact and are outlined on Slide 23. We have a clear purpose of enriching lives through our relentless drive to create better health outcomes for patients and healthcare providers who treat them. We have made key focused investments in our sales teams, Marketing programs and R and D pipeline to drive performance for the long term. Finally, and importantly, we have an all in team that is principled, creative, Our problem solvers and results focus. On behalf of our entire Bausch Health team, I thank you for your interest in and support of our company.

Speaker 2

With that, we will now take questions. Operator, please open the line for Q and A.

Operator

Your first question for today is coming from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America Securities.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess, firstly, I was wondering where you are with the Status of the new CFO hire, I didn't see that listed on the priority list, but if you can have any commentary there. And then On the prior quarter update, you talked about exploring different strategic options for separation. Are there any kind of specific Options that are emerging there and as you talk about different factors, is Canadian approval and or a solvency opinion Options that are going to be factors in separation?

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jason. Yes, Jason, I'll take the first question. Regarding the CFO hire, yes, As you know, Tom Vaticat left and John has taken over as the interim head. A search is underway. What I would say is, in the meantime, we have a really strong finance team focused on maintaining the momentum within our business.

Speaker 2

So we're in good shape there and really working to continue to drive performance in the Q4. With regard to the changes that we've talked about in the second quarter, Nothing has changed there in terms of what we want to do. We had time in the second quarter to Consider going to a reduction of capital, we believe that completing any eventual distribution by way of return of capital basically simplifies The process helps to manage through some of the risks that have been identified. We believe also it creates Additional strategic flexibility for both companies. And when we look at it in terms of Solvency, there's many factors that go into that.

Speaker 2

John, maybe you want to take that. Yes.

Speaker 3

I don't think anything has fundamentally Changed in terms of how we're thinking about the steps to get in or how we're thinking about solvency beyond what we previously disclosed. The solvency requirements haven't changed And we continue to evaluate them.

Speaker 2

Operator, next question. Go ahead, Jason. You have a follow-up?

Speaker 5

Well, yes, I guess I'm just

Speaker 4

not totally clear. I think in the past, it was framed as sort of something that you have a self imposed Consideration, but that perhaps under the reduction of capital, it may not it wouldn't be needed because The Canadian approval dynamics change. So I guess, is that how you'd frame it is sort of it's still a self imposed auction and you're not saying whether you will or won't

Speaker 2

Do it.

Speaker 3

So I think fundamentally, Jason, we need to ensure that If and when we do a distribution, we have 2 appropriately capitalized companies that we're leaving behind, right? And The specific legal procedural steps to solvency, I don't think are something that's necessarily germane to that Discussion, we have to have 2 companies that are appropriately capitalized.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Operator, next question.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Umer Raffat with Evercore.

Speaker 6

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I have 3 today, if I may. First, Tom, on this point on appropriately capitalizing both companies, is that feedback you're getting from a regulator, perhaps Canada or somewhere in U. S?

Speaker 6

Secondly, on XIFAXAN, I know there's 2 broad issues. There's the patent issue, which is being appealed from the district court. And then there's this issue around how the district court prevented FDA approval till 2029. Can you clarify if both these issues will be part of the appeals court And finally, have you guys taken any blinded look at cardiac safety in the MSL MODS ongoing trial? Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Yes. So, I'll take the first one, Umer. In terms of appropriately capitalized, No. The answer is, that we just when we talk about it, that's when we look at the spin, that's what we look at as 2 Appropriately capitalized companies. Regarding the second question you had on the appeal of the District Court, What I would say is, again, yesterday's decision, okay, was the district court denied Norwich's motion And granted summary judgment in favor of the FDA and the company, we are really happy with this outcome.

Speaker 2

This is a separate of course, a separate matter to our appeal, which is ongoing, and of course, waiting we're waiting for On the last one on amicilimod, yes, We did run a we did take a look at the cardio safety of amicilimod And a study a large study was run. Operator, next question.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from David Amsellem with Piper Sandler.

Speaker 7

Hi, thanks. This is Skyler on for David. First, what are your overarching thoughts on solvency in the context of the 2027 and 2028 maturities? Do you have any long term plans you can speak to, To attain a more secure capital structure and then also how are you thinking about the divestiture as a means of addressing the debt burden? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. I'll take the first part of that and then Tom can talk about the divestiture side of it. We're not going to share long term projections. We'll see our 2024 guidance when we get to February. What I will say is a couple of things as we think through.

Speaker 3

Obviously, Debt reduction continues to be a priority for us. We have businesses that generate significant cash flow. You saw earlier, we're guiding to $625,000,000 for As the business grows on the top line, that should flow pretty well down to cash and bottom line going forward as well. And we continue to focus on our pipeline as Tom spoke about, right, because that's important when we do get to places where we need to refinance. Obviously, the forward looking leverage It's going to be critical there.

Speaker 3

And so continuing to grow the business we have, generate cash and focus on developing our pipeline are the keys there.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll take the second part of that question. Of course, divestitures. As a publicly held company, we're always considering all options. We have a lot of great assets in this company.

Speaker 2

We have a lot of great assets in this company. So if someone comes forward and is interested In looking at our assets, we're always entertained that. Clearly, the assets we have today as we saw In terms of the results of the Q3, we're performing well. However, clearly, If there is any interest, we would entertain it. Operator, next question.

Operator

The next question is coming from Douglas Meehan with RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker 5

Yes. Good morning. Just a couple of questions on XIFAXAN, number 1, with respect to the growth at around 13% relative to the flat in prescription. So Is it fair to say then a small part price increase and the bulk of it was Stocking and maybe you could actually delineate what that number was. And then the second question has to do with Ziplentan and Wellbutrin.

Speaker 5

We saw strong actually fairly strong growth relative to the weakness in prescriptions. Can you walk us Drew, what's going on there as well? I know that you indicated that into Q4, things are going to reverse themselves, but Just curious as to what happened there?

Speaker 2

Yes, Doug. I'll take some of those questions and then John might add a few things. When we took take a look at XIFAXAN, clearly in the quarter, it was a good quarter. I did mention in my prepared remarks, There was some changes on inventory. And our pricing, we did have a good Opportunity to get some price with a higher net price got a $17,000,000 Overall, when we take a look at the extended units, they were up 0.5 There are things happening and shifting of patients, and especially on the HE side.

Speaker 2

Well, we as we look at it, if I take a look at the TRx growth, it was For IBS D, it was 0.5% in line with the trend. When I look at HE on the HE side, It did decline slightly from a total TRx standpoint, but the NRx trend It's good. So one of the things we're going to be focusing on is refill rates as we into the 4th quarter. As you know, also I've talked about in previous calls, your AI project, that now has been rolled out to our large feel for us both on the primary care side and the specialty side, and that as we look at what our messaging is, What our targets are, is going to help improve, the volume performance going forward. When I take a look at the volume, the volume and also then what the wholesalers bought, and I don't the data that they're looking at and the trends that they see, but there's a lot of things that we're doing there.

Speaker 2

From a direct to consumer advertising, I mentioned, developing a young opportunity Speaking about the need to address HE, there's a lot of things happening there that will help our Salix business Going forward, when we take a look at Aplenzin and Wellbutrin, clearly, in the quarter, We had opportunities there from looking at what the other competitors had in terms of Inventory movements, we did launch the aplentine SAD campaign, which we're really excited about. That is the only product approved And we think that we have a really good opportunity to drive growth Not only in the Q4, but good momentum going into next year. Operator, next question.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Les Zieluski with Truist Securities.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. So first on the EBITDA guidance for BHC, excluding Bachelorm. Can you just talk about some of the puts and takes on the narrowing down of the guidance there? And then second on the Red Sea program, how is just enrollment Trending and any agency feedbacks from specifically from Asia Pacific region?

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So why don't I take The first question on the Red Sea and then John will take the question on guidance. Really excited about the Red Sea program. Again, this is a global program. As today, We only have approval for to market XIFAXAN in the United States.

Speaker 2

This would be an opportunity globally. The enrollment of 2 global Phase 3 trials is on track. One of the reasons why you see the increase in spend in R and D, We put more investment behind this program to accelerate the program, so we have And approval an earlier approval. So we expect these 3 Phase 3 trials to be completed in 2025, To file in 2026 and to launch a commercial product in the first half of twenty twenty seven. When I look at the opportunity here, of course, we need the data, But we look at the opportunity for Red Sea globally, it's a really great opportunity for our company.

Speaker 2

And the R and D team has been doing a real good job on the recruitment and have had many investigator meetings Both in Europe and also in Asia Pacific and trying to get as many sites up Running as possible and making sure that even looking at our opportunities to run a trial in China, which would be Again, an area of focus for us. John, do you want to take the other question

Speaker 3

on guidance? Sure. In terms of the puts and takes on guidance, Les, yes, I think There are a few things in there. 1, you start with the we're going to talk about adjusted EBITDA, but it starts with top line, right? And as you can see, We've increased our organic growth guidance, a point on the top end, 2 points on the bottom end.

Speaker 3

But FX has really shifted since Last time we provided guidance in August and has become much more of a headwind, which carries through down to the bottom line to a degree. And then when we look at some of the other factors, we talked about the R and D spend that we've accelerated into 2023. The Emory recall that happened in Q2 and trailed over a little bit into Q3. We continue to try to be really thoughtful about cost and expense. So when we look at how all of that rolls together, I think, we thought it was prudent to narrow our range to the 2.3 to 2.35 range.

Speaker 3

Hopefully that helps answer your question.

Speaker 8

That's helpful. And if I may squeeze 1 more on the recent approval of Captrio. What's the market opportunity here? Just talk about Salesforce ads for 1Q launch, pricing reimbursement strategy And then essentially a duration of compliance rates that you'd expect from the product? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. What I would say, Kev Trio, we're really, of course, excited that we gained FDA approval. The Team, the R and D team, the regulatory team have worked really hard to get bring this product to fruition. What I would say is The acne is clearly a focus for us and we see it As a good opportunity, of course, as you know, the medical space in terms of the payer perspective is a challenge. And therefore, we're looking at what our pricing will be, looking at various ways to maximize The molecule, in whether it be from a payer of course, from a payer perspective, but also from a cash Pay perspective, we think that this product is the best in class for the treatment of acne.

Speaker 2

So The team is still working on finalizing the launch plans as we work As we're going to launch this in the Q1 of 2024, but clearly we're excited about it. We think it's a good opportunity To put this product in the bag to drive growth and stabilization of our medical derm business. Operator, next question.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question and answer session. And I now turn the call over to Tom Appeo for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Since there are no further questions, I would just say Thank you for joining today. In summary, we had a solid Q3 and made good progress on our strategic objectives. We look forward to finishing the year strong with a focus on profitable growth, driving performance, Advancing the R and D that we discussed on this call and also advancing business development as well And building on our overall momentum from Q3 from the Q3 into the 4th and then continuing that on in 2024. I would really like to thank everybody for joining our call today.

Operator

This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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