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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Pediatrix Medical Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.29Consensus EPS $0.40Beat/MissMissed by -$0.11One Year Ago EPS$0.37Pediatrix Medical Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$506.60 millionExpected Revenue$507.59 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$990.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+3.40%Pediatrix Medical Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/2/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, November 2, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsPediatrix Medical Group's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Friday, November 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, October 31, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Pediatrix Medical Group Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Disappointing Q3 results with adjusted EBITDA roughly $15 million below internal forecast, driven by soft patient volumes and higher practice-level operating expenses, prompting a full-year EBITDA outlook reduction to $200 million–$210 million. Management will prioritize structural changes in ambulatory practices to address wide variances in financial performance across locations and improve near-term earnings potential. The company plans to confront labor costs by reviewing clinician staffing models to balance high-quality patient care with current practice needs and mitigate escalating salary and benefits expenses. Pediatrics will refine capital allocation to bolster its core businesses and pursue selective partnerships and acquisitions, leveraging its national platform to attract high-quality practices amid industry dislocation. A transition to a hybrid revenue cycle management model is underway, replacing the current vendor with a combined internal and external team to optimize front-end functions, improve RCM performance, and enhance gross margins. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPediatrix Medical Group Q3 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:02Welcome to the Pediatrics Medical Group, Inc. Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:23I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Charles Lynch. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, and good morning, I will quickly read our forward looking statements and then we'll get into the call. Certain statements and information during this conference call may be deemed to be forward looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements are based on assumptions and assessments made by Pediatrics' management in light of their experience and assessment of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments and other factors they believe to be Any forward looking statements made during this call are made as of today, and Pediatrics undertakes no duty to update or revise any such statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments and business This decision to differ materially from forward looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC, including the sections entitled Risk Factors. In today's remarks by management, we will be discussing non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 200:01:29A Speaker 100:01:29reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures To the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in this morning's earnings press release, our quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and our annual report on Form 10 ks and on our website at www.pediatrics.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Doctor. Jim Swick. Speaker 300:01:48Thank you, Charlie, and good morning, everyone. Also with me today is Mark Richards, our Chief Financial Officer. Our disappointing results reflected relatively soft patient volumes and We plan to take meaningful steps to address this shortfall since we firmly believe that our current operating results do not We represent both the largest single service provider for newborns in the U. S. As well as the largest group of maternal fetal medicine clinicians in the women's health sector. Speaker 300:02:25Our network of affiliated practices provides critical services to women, babies and children, often in their times of greatest need. We have been successful in maintaining a predominantly in network relationship structure, a key depreciator as we have navigated the Challenging implementation of the No Surprise Act. And against the rising interest rate environment, our debt With all of this in mind, we intend to take significant steps designed to support and bolster our core business to generate a stable gross margin profile As we continue to address cost trends and make any necessary changes to our service line footprint, let me list our areas of focus. 1st, We intend to make structural changes a priority in our ambulatory practices to enhance the earnings potential of the broader organization. There are wide variances in the financial performance across individual practices within our organization, whether viewed by geography, We will expand these efforts, identify further actions we can take in the near term to improve practice performance where possible and take these steps as quickly as we can. Speaker 300:04:022nd, we intend to confront the labor cost challenge we are facing head on to mitigate cost while also remaining competitive in the clinician environment. We will continue to work with our affiliated practices to review overall staffing needs In order to ensure optimal models that 1st and foremost support the highest quality patient care, but also are aligned to the current needs of each practice. 3rd, given our financial strength and liquidity, we will focus our capital allocation priorities to build on our core As we have communicated previously, given the dislocation that has occurred across the physician service industry over the past several years, We believe that we are favorably positioned as the organization of choice for high quality practices in need of a national platform in which to collaborate with peer clinicians. Lastly, as we disclosed this morning, we have made the decision to transition to a new vendor for revenue cycle management services. We did not make this decision lightly given the importance of this function to our practices and to our overall operating performance. Speaker 300:05:10However, our experience over the past year underscores our conviction that a true hybrid model incorporating an internal team and focused on front end functions is the appropriate structure to generate optimal performance for pediatrics. Our decision to make this change reflects our need to migrate more quickly and completely to our hybrid model than we believe can be accomplished with our existing vendor. Additionally, we observed a regression in RCM performance during Q3 to past challenges that we have seen in AR, DSOs and other metrics. We are focused on turning to a chapter where we rely on our own team where it makes sense and on an outside RCM partner for the areas where we simply cannot match their efficiencies And we expect to begin this transition prior to the end of 2023. As we have discussed at length this year, we've been building our internal team, which we believe will help minimize any potential disruptions while we transition to a new third party vendor. Speaker 300:06:15Our current vendor will continue to provide services through a transition period as we make the switch to a new vendor. While this Transition period will likely result in some duplicate costs. We believe this too will help mitigate potential transition risks. We will be as transparent as possible in terms of what expenses are temporary as compared to underlying and ongoing costs and performance of our go forward revenue cycle management activities. All told, we believe these steps can meaningfully enhance our operating effectiveness, Put us on a path to sustainable, improve gross margins, while ensuring that pediatrics can continue to provide Best in class support services to our affiliated practices. Speaker 300:07:00With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark Richards. Speaker 400:07:03Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. I'll provide some additional details for the quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was roughly $15,000,000 below our internal forecast, primarily driven by practice level operating expenses and also impacted by soft patient volumes. Within our top line results, our same unit pricing growth primarily reflected year over year recoveries in both revenue collection rates and payer mix against a very challenging quarter in 2022. At the practice level, our year over year expense growth was evenly divided between salaries on the one hand and incentive compensation and benefits on the other. Speaker 400:07:53This underlying salary growth accelerated by roughly 100 basis points as compared to the Q2 of this year when we saw some deceleration. Finally, our total G and A expense declined slightly year over year, somewhat mitigating practice level cost growth. Based on our Q3 results and our updated forecast for the Q4, we are updating our outlook for the full year adjusted EBITDA to a range of $200,000,000 to $210,000,000 which contemplates a similar contribution in the 4th quarter to what we reported for the 3rd quarter. Finally, as Jim referenced, we continued to reduce our borrowings during the quarter. We generated just over $81,000,000 in operating cash flow. Speaker 400:08:46We repaid the remaining $40,000,000 in revolver borrowings during the 3rd quarter with a full revolver capacity of $450,000,000 available to us and we ended the period with $21,000,000 in cash. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim. Speaker 300:09:03Thank you, Mark. Operator, let's now open the call for questions. Operator00:09:26Time. We'll go to the line of Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:09:32Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for all the color. I guess my first question, as I think about practice level expenses and how you're looking to address that, Are there levers that you can pull, whether it's adjusting clinician wage rates or subsidies that you can ask for from the hospitals that we should be looking for? Speaker 300:09:56Hey, Brian, I'll start with that. From the subsidy standpoint, it is one of the things we do look at, Especially when we're looking at the OGI and new startups to make sure that we do have the available revenue to us when we bring clinicians on. So that's certainly something that we'll look at going forward. We always look at on an annual basis. As far as the comp Framework, we have the fixed and variable comp and I think we're trying to look at what the right mix of that is as we've seen On the variable comp as we've recovered in the RCM areas through the year, we've seen some variable comps gone up. Speaker 300:10:36But we do need to look at it through the lens of which practices have both a variable comp structure and just a base comp structure. And we're going to look at all of those things together. Got it. Okay. Speaker 500:10:49And then maybe as I think about the rev cycle side, what were your learnings from the RCM transition years back that you think will make this transition smoother as you look for Bring in a 3rd party vendor and go hybrid. Speaker 300:11:06Yes. I'll start and all of us can speak to it, Ryan. I guess what I've learned is I know more about rev Cycle now than I ever wanted to in my entire clinician career. So I think we understand very much and probably it's rooted in what we've described. We believe that our services are unique. Speaker 300:11:25Our service is unique at the bedside for the patients in terms of finding out As simple as things like the name of the baby and the insurance of which parent. And so we just believe we need to have people Closer to the bedside that start the process on the front end in a more complete fashion. That's why we've invested Our vendor of having people here who are employed through pediatrics that are taking those tasks and while we're adding in Significant resources as we make this transition. So I think we're going in eyes wide open. Our entire leadership team, our entire operations Dean really is tightly involved in this transition. Speaker 300:12:08Mark, I don't Speaker 400:12:09know if you have any other comments. No, I think that's well put, Jim, I would say that we certainly learned a lot from the last transition and those Lessons learned will be applied in space to what Speaker 300:12:24we plan on doing over Speaker 400:12:25the next 12 months or so. Jim, if I could just Speaker 500:12:29throw a quick follow-up. I mean, you've been there for a while. And before you transition this to an external vendor, things Seem to be working okay, it wasn't broken on the rev cycle side. So is it pretty much like just bringing it back to how you ran things prior to bring RCM back in the day? Speaker 300:12:45No, Brian, we're going to have an outside vendor for much of the back end. The problem and what we identified when we Made the decision to transition is that obviously the labor costs are an issue, the turnover of labor was always an issue. And then there was a big component that we expected in our current vendor that there was going to be a technology solution available to us Because we were going to have to invest 1,000,000 of dollars on a technology transition that that never happened, We do believe that there are vendors out there who can and will help us with that. But I think the cost we looked at it through the cost of gaining a workforce and a technology on in the previous setting and knew that there were efficiencies by bringing in outside vendor hence the reason we made that change. Finally said, what we learned and what we believe and we will strongly stand by is that it has to be a hybrid model. Speaker 300:13:46We have to own the front end and what we do at the level of patient care and at the physician practice level And then have a vendor who has more efficiencies on the back end. Speaker 100:13:57Awesome. Thank you. Operator00:14:00Thank We'll go to the line of Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:14:11Hi, this is Mia on for Kevin Fischbeck. So the first question is just regarding non same store revenue. So it sounded like non same store revenue was a headwind to growth. So what drove that? Speaker 100:14:26Hey, it's Charlie. You'll notice through the course of this year that that's largely been the case, not in a Very material fashion, but it's put in something of a fashion. And I think there's some comparability in that to what Jim mentioned around Our review of our footprint and our portfolio, we have had some practice exits and the like through the course of this year As we review the portfolio and our footprint and that's where you see that net negative in the non same unit side. Speaker 200:15:01Okay. Thank you. I guess I just have one follow-up. So we've been hearing from the hospital companies a lot about increased professional fees. Do you have an ability to go back and get subsidies to offset the margin pressure? Speaker 300:15:16Well, sorry, we have had great relationship with our hospital partners. And as it relates to Those fees and the structure of those fees, we've done very well to continue to place those fees When we need them, we're not somebody and you need to understand that we're not reliant to a large extent on those contract fees. However, for those services that have smaller volumes but higher intensity, we do look at that and so we will whether it be on new Opportunities in OGIs or whether current pressures result in increased costs, we will go back Operator00:16:05Thank you. And with that, we have exhausted the queue at this time. Please continue. Speaker 100:16:08All right, operator, thank you and thank you everyone for being on the call. We are I am available with the team throughout the restRead morePowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Pediatrix Medical Group Earnings HeadlinesPediatrix Medical Group (NYSE:MD) Stock Rating Lowered by Wall Street ZenSeptember 15, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comPediatrix Medical Group, Inc. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:02Welcome to the Pediatrics Medical Group, Inc. Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:23I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Charles Lynch. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, and good morning, I will quickly read our forward looking statements and then we'll get into the call. Certain statements and information during this conference call may be deemed to be forward looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements are based on assumptions and assessments made by Pediatrics' management in light of their experience and assessment of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments and other factors they believe to be Any forward looking statements made during this call are made as of today, and Pediatrics undertakes no duty to update or revise any such statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments and business This decision to differ materially from forward looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC, including the sections entitled Risk Factors. In today's remarks by management, we will be discussing non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 200:01:29A Speaker 100:01:29reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures To the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in this morning's earnings press release, our quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and our annual report on Form 10 ks and on our website at www.pediatrics.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Doctor. Jim Swick. Speaker 300:01:48Thank you, Charlie, and good morning, everyone. Also with me today is Mark Richards, our Chief Financial Officer. Our disappointing results reflected relatively soft patient volumes and We plan to take meaningful steps to address this shortfall since we firmly believe that our current operating results do not We represent both the largest single service provider for newborns in the U. S. As well as the largest group of maternal fetal medicine clinicians in the women's health sector. Speaker 300:02:25Our network of affiliated practices provides critical services to women, babies and children, often in their times of greatest need. We have been successful in maintaining a predominantly in network relationship structure, a key depreciator as we have navigated the Challenging implementation of the No Surprise Act. And against the rising interest rate environment, our debt With all of this in mind, we intend to take significant steps designed to support and bolster our core business to generate a stable gross margin profile As we continue to address cost trends and make any necessary changes to our service line footprint, let me list our areas of focus. 1st, We intend to make structural changes a priority in our ambulatory practices to enhance the earnings potential of the broader organization. There are wide variances in the financial performance across individual practices within our organization, whether viewed by geography, We will expand these efforts, identify further actions we can take in the near term to improve practice performance where possible and take these steps as quickly as we can. Speaker 300:04:022nd, we intend to confront the labor cost challenge we are facing head on to mitigate cost while also remaining competitive in the clinician environment. We will continue to work with our affiliated practices to review overall staffing needs In order to ensure optimal models that 1st and foremost support the highest quality patient care, but also are aligned to the current needs of each practice. 3rd, given our financial strength and liquidity, we will focus our capital allocation priorities to build on our core As we have communicated previously, given the dislocation that has occurred across the physician service industry over the past several years, We believe that we are favorably positioned as the organization of choice for high quality practices in need of a national platform in which to collaborate with peer clinicians. Lastly, as we disclosed this morning, we have made the decision to transition to a new vendor for revenue cycle management services. We did not make this decision lightly given the importance of this function to our practices and to our overall operating performance. Speaker 300:05:10However, our experience over the past year underscores our conviction that a true hybrid model incorporating an internal team and focused on front end functions is the appropriate structure to generate optimal performance for pediatrics. Our decision to make this change reflects our need to migrate more quickly and completely to our hybrid model than we believe can be accomplished with our existing vendor. Additionally, we observed a regression in RCM performance during Q3 to past challenges that we have seen in AR, DSOs and other metrics. We are focused on turning to a chapter where we rely on our own team where it makes sense and on an outside RCM partner for the areas where we simply cannot match their efficiencies And we expect to begin this transition prior to the end of 2023. As we have discussed at length this year, we've been building our internal team, which we believe will help minimize any potential disruptions while we transition to a new third party vendor. Speaker 300:06:15Our current vendor will continue to provide services through a transition period as we make the switch to a new vendor. While this Transition period will likely result in some duplicate costs. We believe this too will help mitigate potential transition risks. We will be as transparent as possible in terms of what expenses are temporary as compared to underlying and ongoing costs and performance of our go forward revenue cycle management activities. All told, we believe these steps can meaningfully enhance our operating effectiveness, Put us on a path to sustainable, improve gross margins, while ensuring that pediatrics can continue to provide Best in class support services to our affiliated practices. Speaker 300:07:00With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark Richards. Speaker 400:07:03Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. I'll provide some additional details for the quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was roughly $15,000,000 below our internal forecast, primarily driven by practice level operating expenses and also impacted by soft patient volumes. Within our top line results, our same unit pricing growth primarily reflected year over year recoveries in both revenue collection rates and payer mix against a very challenging quarter in 2022. At the practice level, our year over year expense growth was evenly divided between salaries on the one hand and incentive compensation and benefits on the other. Speaker 400:07:53This underlying salary growth accelerated by roughly 100 basis points as compared to the Q2 of this year when we saw some deceleration. Finally, our total G and A expense declined slightly year over year, somewhat mitigating practice level cost growth. Based on our Q3 results and our updated forecast for the Q4, we are updating our outlook for the full year adjusted EBITDA to a range of $200,000,000 to $210,000,000 which contemplates a similar contribution in the 4th quarter to what we reported for the 3rd quarter. Finally, as Jim referenced, we continued to reduce our borrowings during the quarter. We generated just over $81,000,000 in operating cash flow. Speaker 400:08:46We repaid the remaining $40,000,000 in revolver borrowings during the 3rd quarter with a full revolver capacity of $450,000,000 available to us and we ended the period with $21,000,000 in cash. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim. Speaker 300:09:03Thank you, Mark. Operator, let's now open the call for questions. Operator00:09:26Time. We'll go to the line of Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:09:32Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for all the color. I guess my first question, as I think about practice level expenses and how you're looking to address that, Are there levers that you can pull, whether it's adjusting clinician wage rates or subsidies that you can ask for from the hospitals that we should be looking for? Speaker 300:09:56Hey, Brian, I'll start with that. From the subsidy standpoint, it is one of the things we do look at, Especially when we're looking at the OGI and new startups to make sure that we do have the available revenue to us when we bring clinicians on. So that's certainly something that we'll look at going forward. We always look at on an annual basis. As far as the comp Framework, we have the fixed and variable comp and I think we're trying to look at what the right mix of that is as we've seen On the variable comp as we've recovered in the RCM areas through the year, we've seen some variable comps gone up. Speaker 300:10:36But we do need to look at it through the lens of which practices have both a variable comp structure and just a base comp structure. And we're going to look at all of those things together. Got it. Okay. Speaker 500:10:49And then maybe as I think about the rev cycle side, what were your learnings from the RCM transition years back that you think will make this transition smoother as you look for Bring in a 3rd party vendor and go hybrid. Speaker 300:11:06Yes. I'll start and all of us can speak to it, Ryan. I guess what I've learned is I know more about rev Cycle now than I ever wanted to in my entire clinician career. So I think we understand very much and probably it's rooted in what we've described. We believe that our services are unique. Speaker 300:11:25Our service is unique at the bedside for the patients in terms of finding out As simple as things like the name of the baby and the insurance of which parent. And so we just believe we need to have people Closer to the bedside that start the process on the front end in a more complete fashion. That's why we've invested Our vendor of having people here who are employed through pediatrics that are taking those tasks and while we're adding in Significant resources as we make this transition. So I think we're going in eyes wide open. Our entire leadership team, our entire operations Dean really is tightly involved in this transition. Speaker 300:12:08Mark, I don't Speaker 400:12:09know if you have any other comments. No, I think that's well put, Jim, I would say that we certainly learned a lot from the last transition and those Lessons learned will be applied in space to what Speaker 300:12:24we plan on doing over Speaker 400:12:25the next 12 months or so. Jim, if I could just Speaker 500:12:29throw a quick follow-up. I mean, you've been there for a while. And before you transition this to an external vendor, things Seem to be working okay, it wasn't broken on the rev cycle side. So is it pretty much like just bringing it back to how you ran things prior to bring RCM back in the day? Speaker 300:12:45No, Brian, we're going to have an outside vendor for much of the back end. The problem and what we identified when we Made the decision to transition is that obviously the labor costs are an issue, the turnover of labor was always an issue. And then there was a big component that we expected in our current vendor that there was going to be a technology solution available to us Because we were going to have to invest 1,000,000 of dollars on a technology transition that that never happened, We do believe that there are vendors out there who can and will help us with that. But I think the cost we looked at it through the cost of gaining a workforce and a technology on in the previous setting and knew that there were efficiencies by bringing in outside vendor hence the reason we made that change. Finally said, what we learned and what we believe and we will strongly stand by is that it has to be a hybrid model. Speaker 300:13:46We have to own the front end and what we do at the level of patient care and at the physician practice level And then have a vendor who has more efficiencies on the back end. Speaker 100:13:57Awesome. Thank you. Operator00:14:00Thank We'll go to the line of Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:14:11Hi, this is Mia on for Kevin Fischbeck. So the first question is just regarding non same store revenue. So it sounded like non same store revenue was a headwind to growth. So what drove that? Speaker 100:14:26Hey, it's Charlie. You'll notice through the course of this year that that's largely been the case, not in a Very material fashion, but it's put in something of a fashion. And I think there's some comparability in that to what Jim mentioned around Our review of our footprint and our portfolio, we have had some practice exits and the like through the course of this year As we review the portfolio and our footprint and that's where you see that net negative in the non same unit side. Speaker 200:15:01Okay. Thank you. I guess I just have one follow-up. So we've been hearing from the hospital companies a lot about increased professional fees. Do you have an ability to go back and get subsidies to offset the margin pressure? Speaker 300:15:16Well, sorry, we have had great relationship with our hospital partners. And as it relates to Those fees and the structure of those fees, we've done very well to continue to place those fees When we need them, we're not somebody and you need to understand that we're not reliant to a large extent on those contract fees. However, for those services that have smaller volumes but higher intensity, we do look at that and so we will whether it be on new Opportunities in OGIs or whether current pressures result in increased costs, we will go back Operator00:16:05Thank you. And with that, we have exhausted the queue at this time. Please continue. Speaker 100:16:08All right, operator, thank you and thank you everyone for being on the call. We are I am available with the team throughout the restRead morePowered by