NetScout Systems Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 2, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to NETSCOUT's Second Quarter Fiscal Year 20 24 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all parties are in a listen only mode until the question and answer portion of the call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Tony Piazza, Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance and his colleagues at NETSCOUT are on the line with us today. I would now like to turn the call over to Tony Piazza to begin the company's prepared remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to NETSCOUT's Q2 fiscal year 2024 conference call for the period ended September 30, 2023. Joining me today are Anil Singhal, NETSCOUT's President and Chief Executive Officer Michael Szabados, NETSCOUT's Chief Operating Officer and Gene Bua, NETSCOUT's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. There's a slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks. You can advance the slides in the webcast viewer to follow our commentary.

Speaker 1

Both the slides and the prepared remarks can be accessed including the IR landing page under Financial Results, the webcast itself and under Financial Information on the Quarterly Results page. Moving on to Slide number 3. Today's conference call will include forward looking statements. Examples of forward looking statements include statements regarding our future financial performance or position, results of operations, business strategy, plans and objectives of management for future operations and other statements that are not historical fact. You can identify forward looking statements by their use Forward looking words such as anticipate, believe, plan, will, should, expect or other comparable terms.

Speaker 1

We caution listeners not to place undue reliance on any forward looking statements included in this presentation, which speak only as of today's date. These forward looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from the forward looking statements due to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, For more detailed description of the risk factors associated with the company, please refer to the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. NETSCOUT assumes no obligation to update any forward looking information contained in this communication or with respect to the announcement described herein. Let's now move to Slide 4, which involves non GAAP metrics. While this slide presentation includes both GAAP and non GAAP results, unless otherwise stated, financial information discussed on today's conference call will be on a non GAAP basis only.

Speaker 1

The rationale for providing non GAAP measures along with the limitations of relying solely on those measures is detailed on this for financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of all non GAAP metrics with the applicable GAAP These measures are provided in the appendix of the slide presentation, in today's earnings press release and on our website. I will now turn the call over to Anil for his prepared remarks. Anil?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. Welcome and thank you all for joining us today. We delivered 2nd quarter revenue in line with our preliminary results announced in mid October. Revenue was impacted by a slowing in order conversion rate in the 2nd quarter related to industry and economic Headwinds that we expect will persist in the second half of fiscal year twenty twenty four. In response to these dynamics, We initiated several actions to manage discretionary costs, which more than offset the bottom line impact in the 2nd fiscal quarter Without compromising our longer term objectives, We will provide more information on these market dynamics affecting our business as we review our performance and outlook.

Speaker 2

Let's turn to Slide number 6 for a brief recap of our non GAAP financial results for the Q2 and first half of our fiscal year twenty twenty four. For the Q2, financial results were in line with our preliminary expectation released on October 16. Revenue for the quarter was 196,800,000 down 13.7 percent year over year due to the previously mentioned order conversion slowdown rate related to the industry And economic environment impacting our customer as well as a lower level of radio frequency propagation modeling project revenue compared to last to prior year. Despite the revenue decline, we delivered diluted earnings per share for the quarter of $0.61 An increase of 7% year over year as we benefited from several discretionary cost saving actions that we initiated in response to the current environment. For the first half of fiscal year or the period ended September 30, 2023, Revenue for the first half was $407,900,000 down 6.6% year over year, primarily for the reasons stated earlier that impacted our 2nd fiscal quarter revenue.

Speaker 2

The corresponding diluted earnings per share of $0.92 was an increase of 13.6% year over year, which again benefited from the action taken during our 2nd fiscal quarter. Finally, for the first half of the fiscal year, our cybersecurity revenue grew approximately 10% year over year due to growth in both our core DDoS and our newer Omni Security solutions This was more than offset by a decline of approximately 13% year over year and our service assurance revenue due to the reasons we mentioned earlier. Excluding radio Frequency Profication modeling project revenue from the comparison, service controller revenue declined approximately 8% year over year. Now let's move to Slide number 7 for some further perspective on market and business insight. Starting with our enterprise customer vertical.

Speaker 2

In the first half of fiscal year twenty twenty four, Enterprise revenue declined approximately 3% year over year as growth in our cybersecurity product line revenue was more than offset by a decline in our service assurance product line revenue. Toward the end of second quarter, our order flow through rates began to be affected by higher Spending scrutiny and delayed project funding as customers navigated the evolving and challenging macroeconomic environment. This resulted in sub pockets of softness across multiple enterprise sectors as deals were delayed or reevaluated, most notably in the financial and healthcare sectors, which were partially offset by growth in the government sector. Despite the current economic environment, we remain confident that our value proposition of providing enhanced cybersecurity solution And extending visibility to the edges of the network will continue to resonate with enterprise customers as they seek to protect their networks from attacks, Cover blind spot, address control challenges and facilitated their leverage of off premises and cloud solution as part of the digital transformation and new network architecture initiative. Moving to our service provider customer vertical.

Speaker 2

Revenue in the first half of the first year declined approximately 11% year over year, which was primarily attributed to the lower level of radiofrequencypropagationmodeling project revenue. Excluding radiofrequencypropagation project revenue from the comparison, the service provider customer vertical revenue declined approximately 3% year over year As revenue growth in our cybersecurity product line, driven by the prioritization of security solutions spending, was more than offset by a decline in our core service assurance product line revenue. Revenue in this vertical was also impacted by a Slowing in demand flow through late in the second quarter as higher spending scrutiny and delayed project funding was observed, likely due to the well publicized capital spending constraint impacting service providers. Notably, most of the order delays in this In the second half of the fiscal year given the recent news and customer interaction, which is reflected in our updated outlook. Despite the industry challenges in this vertical, we believe that as 5 gs adoption accelerates, New use cases advance and 5 gs traffic volumes increase, our core visibility and cybersecurity solutions will be increasingly required.

Speaker 2

We remain prepared and ready to support carriers through this inevitable transition with our differentiated solutions. Michael will provide more insight regarding customer orders in our vertical during his remarks. Now let's move to Slide number 8 to review our outlook. We adjusted our fiscal year 2024 outlook to account for the changed market environment. We reduced our revenue outlook by $80,000,000 assuming the midpoints of our original and updated revenue outlook ranges.

Speaker 2

This represents a combination of both service provider and enterprise related opportunity in our pipeline that we believe may be delayed or revisited due to the current industry and economic headwinds as deals are increasingly scrutinized can't take longer to close. We originally expected these opportunities as well as other factors to more than Approximately $60,000,000 of lower radio frequency propagation modeling project revenue anticipated year over year. As I mentioned earlier, we took immediate action to prudently manage costs such as curtailing hiring, Eliminating certain programs and events and adjusting variable incentive compensation to reduce the negative impact to our full fiscal year earnings per share outlook Without compromising our long term objectives, Jean will provide a recap of the outlook in her remarks. Looking ahead, We are committed to delivering results in line with our updated outlook as we continue to execute on our strategic priorities and position us to deliver long term stakeholder value. Despite the near term headwinds, we believe that the longer term Demand trends driving our business remain intact as enterprises and service providers continue to require cybersecurity and service assurance solutions that deliver actionable visibility at scale.

Speaker 2

With our industry leading Visibility Without Borders platform, Strong customer relationship and solid financial profile, we remain well positioned to play a critical role in enabling our customers to tackle the We look forward to sharing our progress with everyone throughout the remainder of our fiscal year. With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Anil, and good morning, everyone. Slide 10 outlines the areas that I will be covering today, starting with customer win highlights in the Q2. In our enterprise customer vertical, we experienced several deals where customers purchased across our platform of solutions, a trend we are seeing more of, which we believe validates the power of NETSCOUT's unified portfolio and supports our strategy. For example, a federal agency We placed multi solution orders totaling mid-seven figures with us in the Q2. These orders consisted of Solutions across our service assurance, availability and security product portfolio within which Our omni solution was a significant portion of this order.

Speaker 3

We have a long standing relationship with this customer And our proven technology and historical performance continue to win our repeat business as they deploy our new and legacy solutions More broadly within their organization. Now turning to our service provider's customer vertical, we remain focused On supporting carriers' 5 gs network evolutions as well as their security efforts, cyber attacks Incidents accelerate and threat services continue to expand. We continue to see carriers invest in 5 gs and other areas, albeit at a slower pace and through smaller order sizes given the current environment. During the second With us accounting to high seven figures, these orders were for our service assurance solution, both for their mobile network We added to 5 gs and the radio access network as well as for their business IT systems. We remain excited about Turning to our go to market activities.

Speaker 3

Since our last earnings call, we announced several product advancements. This includes the release of adaptive details for our threat mitigation system and RAN analytics for carrier aggregation. Additionally, we revealed the recent total economic impact study completed by Forrester Consulting, which found that our Harbor DDoS Protection Solution delivered a return on investment of over 200% during the study period. We also announced that we achieved Amazon Web Services, or AWS, security competency for our advanced NDR product, Omni's Cyber Intelligence or OCI in the category of threat detection and response. In addition, we issued our First half twenty twenty three threat intelligence report highlighting the continued rise in cyber criminal activities.

Speaker 3

The report revealed that approximately $7,900,000 DDoS attics took place in the first half of the year, a 31% increase year over year. We also issued our latest environmental, social and governance reporting report demonstrating our progress in this important area. Finally, in early October, we hosted our customers and partners at our annual Engage Technology and Users Summit in Orlando, Florida. It was another successful event, which included a combination of presentations, Panel discussions, solution demonstrations and hands on trainings. Registration and attendance increased more than 50% year over year, demonstrating strong interest and loyalty among our users.

Speaker 3

During the event, we showcased our visibility with our Boarders platform and how it provides A unified approach to addressing the industry's most pertinent issues and important value proposition as the performance, Availability and security challenges of the industry are multiplying and are often interconnected and overlapping. At the event, we also announced our next generation data export technology targeted at AIOps solutions concludes my remarks, and I will now turn the call over to Jean.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. I will review key metrics for our second quarter and first half of Regardless, I will note the nature of any such comparisons. Slide number 12 details our results for our 2nd quarter and First Half of Fiscal Year twenty twenty four. Focusing on quarterly performance, total revenue declined 13.7% year over year to $196,800,000 Product revenue declined 28 Margin was 80.3 percent, up 3.5 percentage points over the same quarter last year. The increase was primarily attributable to lower levels of radiofrequencypropagationmodeling project costs this quarter compared with last year and a reduction in variable incentive compensation.

Speaker 4

As a reminder, radiofrequency propagation modeling projects Quarterly operating expenses decreased 15.1% year over year, primarily related Cost reductions associated with variable incentive compensation and certain events. We reported an operating profit margin of 28% compared with 23.7 percent in the same quarter last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.61 compared with $0.57 in the same quarter last year, an increase of 7% year over year as we took the actions previously mentioned to offset the impact of the revenue decline. Finally, I wanted to note that in the last month of Q2, we divested the test Lab automation portion of our test optimization business to Spirent for approximately $8,000,000 This business was not material to NETSCOUT's overall financial profile nor strategic to the company's core offering. We believe that the sale to Spirent places the business with a better aligned owner.

Speaker 4

From a performance standpoint, the test optimization revenue contribution year to date was approximately $6,000,000 and we expect its absence to be a headwind of approximately the same level in year over year comparisons in fiscal year 2025. Turning to Slide 13, I'd now like to review key revenue trends by customer verticals and product lines. For the first half of fiscal year twenty twenty four, on a year over year basis, our enterprise customer vertical revenue declined 2.9%, while our service provider customer vertical declined 10.6%. During the first half of the fiscal year, Our enterprise customer vertical accounted for 53% of our total revenue, while our service provider customer vertical accounted for the remaining 47%. Now turning to our product lines.

Speaker 4

In the first half of fiscal year twenty twenty four, our cybersecurity revenue increased 10.4%, while our service assurance revenue decreased 13.1%, both on a year over year basis. During the first half of the fiscal year, our service assurance product line represented approximately 68% of total revenue, while our cybersecurity product line represented the remaining 32%. Turning to Slide 14, which shows our geographic revenue mix. In the first half of the fiscal year, 60% of our revenue was derived from the United States with the remaining 40% provided by international markets. The mix between domestic and international markets shifted from the same period last year partially due to lower Tier 1 domestic carrier radiofrequencypropagationmodeling project revenue this fiscal year.

Speaker 4

Also, No customers represented 10% or more of our total revenue in the second quarter or for the first half of the fiscal year. Slide 15 details our balance sheet highlights and free cash flow. We ended the quarter with $332,600,000 in cash, Cash equivalents, short and long term marketable securities and investments, representing a decrease of $95,300,000 since the end of fiscal year 20 23. Free cash flow for the quarter was a use of $27,900,000 During the second quarter, we repurchased a total of Approximately 1,100,000 shares of Occommon stock for an aggregate purchase price of approximately $31,200,000 for an average price of $27.90 per share. From a debt perspective, we ended the Q2 of fiscal year 2024 With $100,000,000 outstanding on our $800,000,000 revolving credit facility, which expires in July 2026.

Speaker 4

To briefly recap our other balance sheet highlights, accounts receivable net was $152,600,000 An increase of $8,700,000 since March 31, 2023, the DSO metric at the end of the Q2 of Fiscal year 2024 was 69 days versus 52 days at the end of the Q2 of fiscal year 2023 and 58 days at the end of our fiscal year 2023. The higher DSO metric was due to the timing and composition of bookings. Moving to Slide 16 for commentary on our outlook, I will focus my review on our non GAAP targets for fiscal year 2024. As Anil noted earlier, we updated our fiscal year 2024 outlook on October 16, 2023. For the full fiscal year 2024, we now anticipate revenue in the range of $840,000,000 to $860,000,000 The effective tax rate is anticipated to be in the range of 20% to 22%, assuming between 73,000,000 and 74,000,000 weighted average diluted shares outstanding, which includes the impact of our 2nd quarter share repurchase activity, We expect non GAAP diluted earnings per share to now be between $2.20 I'd also like to offer some color on the Q3 of the fiscal year.

Speaker 4

Starting with revenue, as Anil mentioned, the deals line may take longer to close and may be influenced by the timing of customer budget cycles based on the calendar years, meaning The last calendar quarter of 2023 using that budget would hit our Q3 fiscal year And if budgets for 2024 were being used, it would hit our Q1 2024 fiscal year. Therefore, we anticipate approximately 23% to 24% of the $850,000,000 midpoint of our revenue outlook could take place in the Q3. With regard to diluted earnings per share, 3rd quarter EPS will be impacted by the anticipated timing of revenue as well as the cost of our Engage event, which took place in the Q3 of fiscal year 2024 versus historically occurring in our 1st fiscal quarter. As a result, we anticipate 3rd quarter EPS to be approximately 17% to 18% of the $2.10 midpoint of our EPS outlook. That concludes my formal review of our financial results.

Speaker 4

Before we transition to Q and A, I'd like to quickly note that our upcoming IR conference Participation is listed on Slide 17. Thank you. And I'll now turn the call over to the operator to start Q and A.

Operator

Our first question will come from Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, it's Dan Bergstrom for Matt Hedberg. Appreciate taking our question. Can you hear me?

Speaker 4

Yes.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Say the spending environment's been kind of not great all year, but you've been fairly insulated from pressures Service provider over much of the first half. Appreciate the commentary on the call, but just wondering if you could provide any further Color on maybe what changed in the environment or what you view as change and then really when that emerged in the quarter?

Speaker 2

Well, as we mentioned, Matt, that we started noticing this toward the end of the second quarter, but We see signs of big layoffs. If you look at 2 of the big bellwether of NEMS, Ericsson and Nokia announcing big layoffs and cutbacks. So all these are signs of this will continue for some time. And but none of it is impacting is backed by competition or anything. So we think The sales cycle has lengthened and these projects are important, but they should happen Sometime in the next 12 months.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And then maybe a little more on the 2 segments. Curious how you categorize enterprise demand outside of the financial and healthcare verticals. You called those out as soft, sounds like federal is strong. And then maybe on the service provider side, sounds like much of the softness was in international markets and you're assuming that occurs in North America over the second half, But you're not seeing it yet.

Speaker 5

Is that correct?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think basically, as we mentioned, Matt, in the past, the service provider deals are very lumpy. And one big order in international can polarize the results. So I think it's mainly international And cable, but cable is all a lot of U. S.

Speaker 2

And even cable providers are doing 5 gs and mobility now. So I think the things are intertwined and we think that it's just the timing of Who is affected when? And that's why it looks like we are seeing only in international, but It's just the timing of the orders, which or the forecast, which makes it look like it's just an International versus U. S. Event in the first half.

Speaker 4

Yes. So just to add on to what Anil had said, In the service provider in international, there is a large Asian carrier that we do business with and they have More like delayed their purchase as opposed to eliminated it. So it's probably why you see the international Service provider being decreased. Going forward, given the comments that Anil made about the constraints that you see in the North American Carriers, the sales force has adjusted their projects and the timing of their projects, which contribute significantly to the And also just as one final thing, because it's usually it's the Fed quarter. The federal government did very well this quarter.

Speaker 4

We grew a little between 25% to 30% for the quarter. And on a year to date basis, we're up Between 40% to 50% on a for the first half of the year versus the first half of last year.

Speaker 5

That's great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question will come from James Fish with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hey, thanks for the questions. Working off of Dan's question there, understanding budgets are And you're seeing delays and push outs. But I guess based on your seasonal guide here, Gene, what Makes you guys confident that this comes back in the March quarter based on the seasonality we typically I guess, what's given the sales force confidence that it hits in March instead of sometime in fiscal 'twenty five, as it really embeds a much, Much larger pickup in that March quarter than we've seen historically even to hit the reduced guide here.

Speaker 4

So the sales force has, as you know, we have long term relationships with all of the carriers. And The as Anil mentioned, the change in the budget was a surprise showing up in probably actually even the later part of September in our quarter. What the sales force believes is in talking to each of our Sales, each of our customers and going through a detailed list of carriers, They believe that the projects have either been delayed or they've been right sized at this point. Q3 has historically been a larger quarter recently and that has been mostly due with budget flushes. And I think the Question of whether it will be in our Q3 using a 2023 remaining budget or budget flush or in our Q1 It's something that we're dealing with and the timing right now.

Speaker 4

And your question is could it slip further out of fiscal 2024? At this point, the sales force doesn't see that, and they have significantly changed what their original expectations were.

Speaker 2

I think one more thing to add, James, to what Gene is saying is that we have seen this dynamic play out. There have been times where Q4 has been bigger than Q3. And because many of our carrier customers are using Their fiscal years are starting in January. So when these kind of things happen, sometimes the budget instead of doing we have the opposite impact Instead of using budget flush for in the last in the December quarter, we are a power projects are funded by The new budget coming in the new fiscal year. So we have seen that with a couple of big carriers in the past, and that's what We are anticipating this time depending on what happened with Q3.

Speaker 4

Yes. And just to be clear, in case I wasn't, when I said Q1, I'm thinking Q1 Calendar year. So Q1 calendar years are Q4. And as we've discussed in the past, Q3 gets The customers' budget flushes and Q4 is the last quarter that our sales teams Can get into Accelerators into their commissions and other incentive compensations. So they usually have a high incentive to try to close those deals using the New Year's budget, in our fiscal Q4.

Speaker 6

Helpful color, guys. Can you guys just walk us through how you're thinking then about gross margins as they were pretty strong Quarter, obviously, we don't have the RFP projects going on, but how are you thinking about gross margins versus OpEx for the back half of the year as It seems like despite the revenue headwind for this current quarter, that you're embedding actually a fairly massive Sequential uptick in OpEx of about $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 I guess really the core of my question is why wouldn't cost stay kind of near these levels

Speaker 4

So in Q3, We see the gross margin probably approaching 78%, 79% and Q4 Being closer to 80% or higher. Operating expenses are flat in Q3 year over year due to the Engage event, some headcount additions and most of that has been Offset by the change in variable incentive compensation. When you go out to Q4, we would see that there would be a Decrease in operating expenses, mostly due to the change in variable incentive compensation, Such that for the full year, we would anticipate that our full year operating expenses could be down on a year over year basis by As much as

Speaker 6

5%. Got it. Thanks guys.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Jim.

Operator

Our next question will come from Kevin Liu with K. Liu and Company. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. Just wanted to touch on the service provider business. As well, you mentioned cable as an area of weakness. So I was curious what Percentage of your business that's represented either over the first half or last year? And then what are some of the Types of projects that are being delayed where we can look for those to come back potentially?

Speaker 2

Yes. So We don't break out the I mean most of the cable business is part of the enterprise service assurance enterprise sorry, Carrier vertical in the U. S. And largely all of the cable business is that. So I don't have the Breakdown of the cable versus the total because we don't report that.

Speaker 2

But the types of projects are there are projects in the security area And DDoS area, Omni Security area, DNS protection, there are a lot of security type projects. There are a lot of visibility type project in the cable. And so also a lot of people are using now cable also Are having their own 5 gs initiatives. So there are projects related to that. So they are all traditional things, Except there has been more focus on the cable side in the recent past, and that's why we see the impact this time.

Speaker 7

Understood. And just as you kind of parse through the demand environment, is there any noticeable change in priorities Between kind of your Service Assurance portfolio versus cybersecurity?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think like for many other vendors, if you look at Any companies who have multiple verticals or multiple solution set, yes, we see the cybersecurity project And get higher prioritization, especially when the spending is tough. And that's why you saw an uptick in that area versus the service assurance for the first half.

Speaker 5

Thanks

Speaker 7

for taking the questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the Q and A portion of today's call. And I would now like to turn the call over to Tony for any additional or closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. That concludes our call for today. Thank you all very much for joining us. Have a good rest of the day.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's NETSCOUT's 2nd quarter fiscal year 2024 financial results conference call. You may disconnect at any time.

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