Reinsurance Group of America Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 15 speakers on the call.

Operator

Day, and welcome to the Reinsurance Group of America Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, There will be an opportunity to ask Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Todd Larson, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Welcome to RGA's Q3 2023 conference call. I'm joined on the call this morning with Anna Manning, RGA's Chief Executive Officer Tony Chang, President Leslie Barbee, Chief Investment Officer and Jonathan Porter, Chief Risk Officer. A quick reminder before we get started regarding forward looking information and non GAAP financial measures. Some of our comments or answers to your questions may contain forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Actual results could differ materially from expected results. Please refer to the earnings release we issued yesterday for a list of important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Additionally, during the course of this call, the information we provide may include non GAAP financial measures. Please see our earnings release, earnings presentation and quarterly financial supplement, all of which are posted on our website for discussion of these terms and reconciliations to GAAP measures. And now, I'll turn the call over to Anna for her comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Todd. Good morning. Thank you for joining our call today. Last night, we reported 3rd quarter adjusted operating earnings of $5.57 per share and the trailing 12 month adjusted operating ROE of 14.7% or 14% excluding notable items. This quarter's results included very good performance in many of our regions and business lines, continuing to show the strength of the large underlying earnings engine in our business as well as the ongoing success of our growth strategy that is adding meaningful long term value to that engine.

Speaker 2

Let me touch on a few of the many highlights in the quarter, which include a continuation of new business momentum in our organic flow business with a measurable pickup in Asia. Underwriting results were favorable overall and in particular, we saw very favorable mortality experience in our U. S. Individual business as well as favorable experience in our U. S.

Speaker 2

Group and Individual Health Businesses. In Asia, The traditional business also delivered favorable underwriting results. Our Global Financial Solutions business had another strong quarter with contributions from both investment spreads and favorable longevity experience. This story is a familiar one as the GFS business has consistently produced excellent results over a number of quarters and years. Investment performance in the quarter was good as new money rates continued to rise and are at levels well above our portfolio yield.

Speaker 2

Variable investment income was in line with our expectations, while impairments were low. We believe our investment portfolio is well positioned to withstand ongoing economic uncertainties. We deployed $203,000,000 of capital into in force and other transactions in the quarter, bringing the year to date total to $587,000,000 This means that in just the first three quarters, we have already the total amount of capital deployed in each of the last 2 years, which were of themselves at impressive levels. On the capital management side, we repurchased $50,000,000 of shares, bringing the year to date total to and our new business pipelines are very healthy and we are expecting a strong finish to the year. Putting it all together, business momentum is strong for both our organic flow and in force block businesses.

Speaker 2

Higher interest rates are very good tailwinds for our business and they are also a contributing driver of new in force opportunities. Our earnings power and capital levels position us extremely well, allowing us to pursue attractive growth opportunities with balancing returning excess capital to shareholders over time. Industry dynamics are favorable. We are well positioned with the capabilities and proven track record to continue to benefit from all those dynamics. We believe many, many things are coming together for us, and we are optimistic about our future and our ability to continue to deliver attractive returns for our shareholders.

Speaker 2

As you know, this is my last quarterly earnings call And I have just a few comments to end my prepared remarks. It has been a privilege and an honor to lead RGA for the past 7 years. RGA is a great company. We are a global leader with a proven, resilient and highly valuable franchise. The depth of talent here is second to none.

Speaker 2

I leave knowing that RGA will be in excellent hands with Tony and the leadership team and with a future that is very bright for RGA. And I will close my remarks by thanking our investors for their trust and support over the years. Thank you. With that, I will hand it over to Tony.

Speaker 3

Good morning, everyone. Let me start by thanking Anna for her leadership And immense contributions to RGA. There is no question in my mind that Anna leaves behind a company that is stronger than ever. Our excitement and optimistic future are very much due to her leadership over the past 7 years. Turning to this quarter's performance.

Speaker 3

I am enthusiastic to share these excellent results. Yes, the industry dynamics are very favorable, but this is just part of the picture. RGA has a very strong franchise and an incredibly talented team to capitalize on this environment. We provide innovative solutions that help solve some of the life and health industry's biggest challenges. These challenges become our clients' greatest opportunities, and we have always been very focused on helping them succeed and growing alongside them.

Speaker 3

Thus, there are many opportunities for RJ to grow our business and support our clients all around the world. This is another excellent this is another quarter in which we have demonstrated our ability to execute on the growth strategy, deliver attractive returns for shareholders and build upon our future earnings power. As previously shared, we have highlighted 4 areas of notable growth: Global PRT and Longevity, Asia Traditional, U. S. Traditional and the Asia Asset Intensive Business.

Speaker 3

Based upon another strong quarter of new business wins and the deployment of capital into transactions, There is little doubt that we are firing on all cylinders. Our internal measure of new business and better value shows we are well ahead of our targets and the year ago period. As important as the quantity of new business is, so is the breadth and the quality. We see the breadth by virtue of the fact that all our businesses across the company are contributing strongly to our success. In terms of the quality, one measure we use is the amount of business coming from exclusive arrangements with clients.

Speaker 3

On this measure, we are achieving performance well ahead of our goal. In order to obtain exclusives, these transactions usually involve Innovative initiatives that create greater value for our clients and RGA. Let me share a few specific highlights in terms of our new business activity in the quarter. To start, U. S.

Speaker 3

Traditional had a very strong quarter for new business. This was driven by a number of wins across the platform and the pipelines remain strong. We continue to see strong demand for our broad range of underwriting One transaction to note is an exclusive opportunity where we recently worked with 1 of the largest term writers in the market. We partnered with them to fully understand and help them accomplish their goals and objectives. In return, they rewarded this partnership with a sizable quota share reinsurance transaction.

Speaker 3

In global PRT longevity, We were very active and successful in Q3. I am happy to report that we completed our 2nd PRT transaction in the U. S. For over $800,000,000 in premium. In line with our previously communicated strategy, we have entered into arrangements with established PRT insurers to jointly bid on certain transactions, and this transaction was won with a second partner.

Speaker 3

Our U. S. PRT business continues to gain momentum. The market is very active, and we remain highly confident of our prospects in this sizable and growing market. In addition, our longevity business remains very strong, and we completed a couple of Significant transactions in Europe adding to the very active first half of the year.

Speaker 3

We continue to see a strong pipeline of business in the region and remain optimistic. In Asia, we continue to see increasing demand for the new products we have launched with our partners, Some of the leading life insurers in the region. Successful new products were launched in Japan, Korea, China and Hong Kong during the quarter. In Hong Kong, the industry continues to see strong momentum from the additional tailwinds that have followed the reopening of the Hong Kong China border. As you know, visitors from China are a material source of business for the Hong Kong Insurance market.

Speaker 3

One particular success to note was an exclusive solution we provided to a major client that was a combined product development, underwriting and a capital management solution. As previously mentioned, we are world class in each of these areas. And when we combine all 3 into one transaction, it results in RJ winning exclusive reinsurance. As a final recognition of our success, I am pleased to announce RGA has been successful in winning a number of awards in Asia over the past quarter. The most significant wins were the Asian Life Reinsurer of the Year and the Asian Insurance Review Innovation of the Year Awards.

Speaker 3

We are excited with the success that we are having not only in Asia, but very much across the globe. Thus, I have a tremendous amount of confidence in IJ's future and in our ability to continue to deliver growth and attractive returns to our shareholders over many years to come. We see many attractive growth opportunities and RJ will pursue these with vigor and creativity, but as always, with strong risk discipline and with the long term focus that has positioned us so well for future success. Thank you for your interest in RJ. I will now turn it over to Todd to discuss the financial results.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Tony. RGA reported pretax adjusted operating income of $481,000,000 for the quarter And adjusted operating earnings per share of $5.57 which includes a foreign currency tailwind of $0.01 per share. Trailing 12 month adjusted operating return on equity was 14.7%. Excluding the assumption changes under LDTI, referred to as notable items. Trailing 12 month adjusted operating return on equity was 14%.

Speaker 1

We are pleased with the strong quarterly results as well as new business volumes, capital deployment and investment results. I did want to make a few comments on the assumption changes that occurred in the quarter. Our annual review of reserve assumptions resulted in the net positive financial impact of $3,000,000 pretax to consolidated results. In the specific geographic segments and various business lines, the net impacts were modest with many natural offsets. Thinking about this from a high level, this shouldn't be a surprise given our diversified platform, both geographically and by product, with mortality and longevity the most obvious.

Speaker 1

The UK is a good example where we reflected our expectation of some level of continued excess mortality that we have been seeing in the population and in our results. This has had an unfavorable impact to the traditional line and a favorable impact on our longevity business. Turning to financial results, Reported premiums were up 31% for the quarter. This quarter's increase includes more than $800,000,000 in premium from our second U. S.

Speaker 1

PRT transaction this year that Tony mentioned earlier. Also as Tony and Anna mentioned, We have strong momentum in new business activity and expect to continue to see attractive premium growth over time. As we move to the quarterly segment results starting on Slide 6 of the earnings presentation, I would like to note that we are discussing results that exclude the impact of assumption changes discussed earlier. U. S.

Speaker 1

And Latin America Traditional segment reflected favorable mortality in our individual mortality business and good results in group and individual health. In individual mortality, we saw very favorable experience that was widespread, primarily driven by lower frequency. This experience occurred in both our capped and uncapped cohorts. As we've previously discussed under LDTI, a portion of the underlying mortality experience for uncapped cohorts as reported in the current period earnings and the remaining experience is spread into future periods. And that is what we saw this quarter, where about half of the favorable mortality results were spread into the future.

Speaker 1

The U. S. Asset Intensive business results were strong, reflecting improved investment spreads, primarily due to higher yields on floating rate securities. And our U. S.

Speaker 1

Capital Solutions business continues to perform in line with our expectations. Canada traditional results reflected unfavorable group experience, while individual mortality experience was favorable, but a large part of this experience will be spread into the future for LDTI. The Financial Solutions business reflected favorable longevity experience. In the Europe, Middle East and Africa segment, the traditional business Results reflected unfavorable mortality experience, most of which was recognized in the current quarter. EMEA's Financial Solutions business results reflected favorable longevity experience.

Speaker 1

Turning to our Asia Pacific Traditional business, results reflected favorable claims experience, much of which was recognized in the current period. Additionally, we have put a fair amount of attractive new business on the books in recent periods and that is having a beneficial impact. Finally, there is a modest favorable effect from a one time item. The Asia Pacific Financial Solutions business results were in line with our expectations. The Corporate and Other segment reported pretax adjusted operating loss of $25,000,000 less than the expected quarterly range, primarily due to higher investment income.

Speaker 1

Moving on to investments on slides 9 through 12. In our earnings presentation, the non spread portfolio yield for the quarter was 4.72%, reflecting higher yields. For non spread business, our new money rate rose to 6.31%, reflecting higher available market yields with select opportunities in private assets and structured securities. Credit impairments were low and we believe the portfolio is well positioned as we move through ongoing economic uncertainties. Related to capital management, as shown on Slides 13 and 14 of our earnings presentation, Our capital and liquidity position remains strong and we ended the quarter with excess capital of approximately $1,100,000,000 In the quarter, we deployed $203,000,000 of capital in the in force and other transactions, bringing the year to date total to $587,000,000 We also returned a total of $106,000,000 of capital to shareholders through $50,000,000 of share repurchases and $56,000,000 in dividends.

Speaker 1

We expect to remain active in deploying capital into attractive growth opportunities in our organic flow and in force block transactions and returning excess capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. We continued our long track record of increasing book value per share. As shown on Slide 15, our book value per share excluding AOCI increased to $142.63 This represents a compounded annual growth rate of 10.8% since the beginning of 2021. The 1st 3 quarters of 2023 have been particularly strong with each quarter coming in ahead of consensus estimates and expectations. So I thought it would be helpful to go through the main drivers from our perspective.

Speaker 1

First, very strong organic new business and in force transactions. Anne and Tony have already reflected on the fact that both of these drivers have been very strong and above our expectations for the year. In some cases, Revenues from these sources have an immediate benefit to current profits, while in other cases, profits initially emerged in an increasing pattern. But in any case, we have been building current and future earnings power through capital deployment in the quality new business and in force transactions over the past few years. 2nd, underwriting results.

Speaker 1

Across the organization, we have generally had very good underwriting results this year. The particular areas of strength include Asia Traditional, U. S. Traditional and our longevity business across the various geographies. Under LDTI, some of this underwriting experience is recognized in the current period, whereas the rest is spread out into the future.

Speaker 1

3rd, interest rates. We have been explicit in the past that the low interest rate environment in place for a number of years was a headwind for us. Now that we are in a higher interest rate environment, we have had and should continue to have a nice tailwind to our investment yields and earnings. While we incorporated an expectation of higher rates into our 2023 plans, short term and long term rates are higher than We assumed and are providing some incremental benefit. Going forward, as long as new money rates stay higher than our portfolio yield, we should pick up additional benefit on a gradual basis.

Speaker 1

4th, in force management. In force management has always been a lever for us. The actions taken have had and will have a positive effect on our results over time. Given these dynamics, we are running ahead of our intermediate term financial targets and current run rates provided at our June Investor Day. As we look forward with these drivers in mind, we would expect to provide relevant updates.

Speaker 1

To summarize, we are very pleased with our Q3 performance, which follows a strong first half of the year. Our business is resilient with substantial underlying earnings power. Momentum is strong and we see good opportunities across our geographies and business lines. Looking forward, we are well positioned for the future and expect to deliver attractive returns to shareholders over time. This concludes our prepared remarks.

Speaker 1

We would now like to open it up for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please re queue if you have additional questions. The first question today comes from Ryan Krueger with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. Todd, in the things you just went over in terms of the drivers of the strong year to date results, it seems like The new business growth, interest rates and in force management would all have ongoing recurring benefits and The one that might not be as recurring would just be the favorable underwriting experience. So I was hoping that you could are you able to give us any color and or quantification of just how Favorable year to date results have been from an underwriting perspective relative to your expectations?

Speaker 1

So I can give you I have my hand the current I was going to size just for underwriting perspective, for the current quarter, I'd size it at around, but went through the income statement around $60,000,000 roughly. Now remember under LDTI, that's the portion that was recognized currently. Overall underwriting for the quarter was probably closer to $150,000,000 or so.

Speaker 4

Perfect. Okay. So $60,000,000 came through the actual income statement though?

Speaker 1

In the quarter, is it there?

Speaker 4

Yes, in the quarter. Okay, got it. And then separately, you had done the second PRT Transaction, I think it's with a different partner than the first one. Are you able to tell us who the partner is? And then I guess on a go forward basis, are there built in arrangements in terms of jointly bidding or is it deal specific?

Speaker 3

Yes, Ryan, let me take that. To start with, on the PRT business, as we've shared, look, We think there's great opportunities in this market and we are very excited with our successes today. As we've previously shared, we feel we're one of the natural homes for longevity risk given we have such a big Book of Mortality business as well as our capabilities and our data that were built up over many, many years on the mortality side as well as The longevity side in Europe. To answer your question, yes, I can share The second partner and that partner is Prudential. And to answer your other question, the different partnerships Have clear guidelines on the type of pension funds we will consider with each partner.

Speaker 3

We price The transactions obviously independently, but coordinate closely on the presentations of our offer as a combined package.

Operator

The next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. And first, I just want to say congrats Anna and best wishes for your retirement. I think Todd, you mentioned a one time favorable item in Would you be able to give us some additional color on that?

Speaker 1

Sure. You have to size it. It was around $10,000,000 in the quarter and it's $10,000,000 to $12,000,000 if I remember correctly. And it related to some The way we classified as underlying treaty and the way that the financial reporting work for that, so sort of a reserve adjustment true up that then Going forward, it will be more of a normal pattern. So it really was sort of an isolated one time item for the quarter.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thanks. And maybe a higher level question, but have you guys given any thought to the advancement of the GLP-one drugs? And Could that have an impact on RGA's results over the longer term as the cost issues are dealt with and adoption becomes more widespread?

Speaker 6

Yes. Hi, Wes. This is Jonathan. Yes, so you're referring to drugs that are used to manage obesity. I think it's probably too early to tell what the long term impact is, but certainly we're encouraged by the potential benefits to both mortality and morbidity.

Speaker 6

And And as you mentioned specifically, as the cost comes down and they become more widespread, I think it's something that we're keenly following.

Operator

The next question comes from John Bainbridge from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning. Thank you very much. You had talked about the main drivers of better earnings, kind of walk through it. When you talk about in force management, Can you maybe talk about how much of that in force has been repricing actions and the pipeline for more of that prospectively? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, John. Let me take that one. Look, our stance on in force management It hasn't changed. I mean, we do not hesitate to exercise our rights in the treaty. But we've been very focused as with pretty much everything we do on a partnership approach.

Speaker 3

So that involves obviously being very holistic and considering The whole relationship across the world can consider with that client considering future opportunities for partnership in new business And so on and so forth. So I would say, we've sort of covered a lot of the low hanging fruit, for lack of better words. And but we continue very focused on this strategy, to find any ways where once again, from a partnership There's opportunities for win win situations between ourselves and our partners.

Speaker 5

Thank you for that. My follow-up questions, you hear more and more carriers talking about automating their underwriting, And you have the data to power that. When you think about from a primary perspective within the U. S. Life insurance market, How much of that is automated?

Speaker 5

And what's the hurdle there and opportunity? Thank you.

Speaker 3

What's the hook and opportunity, sorry?

Speaker 5

What's the hurdle for some of these primary carriers from implementing it today? And because we've seen a number of them Talk about doing more automated underwriting within their portfolio. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, automation of underwriting obviously It's a theme very big in the U. S. And across the globe. And each of our clients obviously work very closely with us on that.

Speaker 3

Our focus is a broad range of underwriting capabilities. So we absolutely work very closely with our clients to automate, as well as provide the facultative as well as a multitude of services in between. So I would say the hurdles really depends on client by client, obviously, size and scale. But it's Clearly a strong trend that we're very much partnering with our clients in the industry to facilitate them further.

Operator

The next question comes from Joel Horwitz with Dillard Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. I wanted to start on the interest rate tailwinds. Can you provide some color on the level of incremental benefits versus what's in your guidance if new money You'll stay around current levels?

Speaker 8

Yes, thanks. This is Leslie. And I think maybe it's helpful if I just compare this quarter to last So if you focus in on our non spread business, the incremental difference from higher Yield has been about $5,000,000 on the quarter. That is sustainable if we stay at these Yield levels that we had at quarter end and there's moved up a bit. And there'll actually probably be a little additional tailwind in the 4th Quarter because as you know, the yields really moved up sharply towards the end of the quarter.

Speaker 8

So think these levels, the $5,000,000 and maybe a little bit more in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 7

Okay, very helpful. And then just shifting to the in force activities, Obviously, year to date capital deployment is very strong there. I guess, do you see this level persisting over the intermediate time? And then can you just talk about where you see

Speaker 3

Yes, let me take that one. The growth in our deployment, as Anna mentioned, the growth in our deployment of capital into the business, we've already surpassed All of last year. And we have obviously very strong momentum and we have no reason to believe that won't continue across the globe. Obviously, with regards to our 4 major areas of notable growth, Asia, the asset intensive We've already discussed a bit on the PRT in the U. S, which is also asset, involves asset intensity and other parts of the world.

Speaker 3

So the prospects are very strong on both the GFS as well as the traditional business. We do time to time see in force opportunities arising, particularly in the U. S. And I want to also say, we spoke earlier about in force management. Our ability to partner with clients When we have to discuss with them in force actions and their how can I put it, their Experience when they work with us on that sort of differentiates us, so that when they have other blocks of business, they're more prone to work with us on those opportunities?

Operator

The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Todd, I just wanted to come back to your response to Ryan's question. The favorable underwriting this quarter Overall, I think you said was around $150,000,000 $60,000,000 of which actually came through in the quarter. Do I have that right?

Speaker 1

Yes. And that's specific to the claims activity. That's right.

Speaker 9

Okay.

Speaker 1

And that's it. That's on both, traditional and GFS.

Speaker 9

Got you. And the so is Todd the right way to think about this That the $90,000,000 that is deferred is going to come through very slowly in the future that will get amortized in future periods Over, I don't know, 10 years, is there a way how should we think about that 90,000,000

Speaker 1

Yes, that's right. It will be amortized in over time in the future. And depending on which cohort it's been in the underlying product, It will depend on the duration of the underlying liability. It's probably is 10 years or longer on average.

Operator

The next question comes from Tim Beuler with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Thanks. Good morning. First, maybe for Leslie. On the new money yield, obviously, you're benefiting from the rise in interest rates. I think you highlighted that the yields also benefited from a shift in allocation to private and to structured investments.

Speaker 10

Did you highlight that to sort of imply that maybe this quarter the new money yield is Trending above what it normally would have trended? Did you opportunistically increase allocations there? Or and should we expect it to maybe Not be as high or was that just were the allocation still normal versus where you expect them to be going forward?

Speaker 8

Thank you. I'm glad you asked that if that wasn't clear. I think the comment really about the select opportunities was to make it Clear, I guess, that we have a broad platform and we're actively selecting and not, everything is driven by just interest rates that show up on our doorstep. But actually the allocation of privates was a little bit less than the Q2. In the Q2, I think I had noted we had a bit Higher allocation, so that shift in mix is actually a bit of a negative on the quarter, but generally we're at very Healthy yield levels because of our broad platform.

Speaker 10

So nothing to suggest that if rates go up more, your yields shouldn't incrementally Improved from even the high levels that it was at in 3Q?

Speaker 8

Yes, correct. In fact, as you know, rates went up much more towards the end of the quarter. So, if you're going for the 9:30 level that would be supportive going forward.

Operator

The next question comes from Tracy Banqui with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Thank you. Just have a very basic question. So you could do a U. S. PRT transaction jointly with Insurance partner or you could do some type of PRT reinsurance.

Speaker 11

I'm wondering Which path has a greater earnings potential?

Speaker 3

It would be the path that we're So the side by side partnership with PRT Insurance.

Speaker 11

Okay, perfect. And because you also have presence in Bermuda, Wondering if you had any early views on the consultation paper that's out there, particularly on the scenario based analysis?

Speaker 1

Yes. Hi, Tracy, it's Todd. Yes, we have been monitoring that. Yes, you're correct. We do have a company or companies in Bermuda.

Speaker 1

Based on our analysis for RGA, we don't expect a material impact. We actually Do not use the scenario based approach so that those the changes to that will not impact us directly.

Operator

The next question comes from Sumit Kumar with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Thanks. Good morning. Your interest rate leverage seems like it's coming in much stronger than I think we expected. Is there a way to Help us think through how much of that is due to sort of the long end of the curve versus the short end of the curve?

Speaker 8

Hi, it's Leslie. The I would say the beat the numbers I was quoting before the change quarter over quarter are really, I would say half and half. It's sort of the short end of the curve still. And then We have done a nice job over this period of higher interest rates and doing some extension trades and locking in those higher yields for longer. So it's kind of half and half.

Speaker 12

Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess for Tony, I think you had mentioned in your prepared comments, The embedded value or value of new business is much higher on the stuff that you've added recently. Is there a way to think about that from a ROE perspective? In other words, What are the returns that you're getting on sort of the new business that you've been adding relative to that, I guess, 11% to 13% ROE target that you always talk about?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks for the question. Yes, as you mentioned, I mean, the new business is coming in strong, the breadth, The quality and the volume. To add further to that, Yes. We're very pleased with the returns on the new business.

Speaker 3

And that's why we've mentioned a few times The exclusivity is because when you are able to sort of grow the pie for you and your partner, then both partners benefit from that. So 11% to 13%, our pricing targets are higher than that. And once again, we're Very pleased with the returns we're seeing on the new business.

Operator

The next question comes from Mike Ward with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Thanks. Good morning and congratulations, Anna. Maybe just to expand on Wes' question on the GLP-1s. A number Of years ago, you guys sort of shared this high level hypothetical type of sensitivity to 1 year extension of life expectancies. I was just wondering if you could help us think through that hypothetical again, Just given your mix and whatnot.

Speaker 6

Yes. Hi, Mike. It's Jonathan. Yes. I don't have sort of a number at the top of my head to be able to provide you.

Speaker 6

But I mean, I guess you can think of it maybe in the context of, again, this is super high level. If you were to push out Everyone's death by 1 more year, we basically would collect extra year of premium. So that's maybe some way to give you a very high level context for that. But Let me take that away and see if there's kind of a different way to think about it and maybe we can look to provide some further information at Investor Day next year or something.

Speaker 13

Awesome. Yes, that sounds great. And then, I was just wondering if there's any sort of update on the 3rd party capital vehicles strategies, specifically the revamped Langhorne.

Speaker 1

Yes. Hi, this is Todd. Yes, no alternative capital remains Important strategically for us, before I answer your specific Langhorne question, we have been active in alternative capital around things like embedded value securitization, surplus notes and some strategic retro session. So it's not just the 3rd party capital element that we include in sort of our alternative capital considerations. But as far as the successor to Langhorne, We did we have taken the lessons that we've learned from Langhorne and have been developing for the next generation Version, if you will, or structure, we're pretty far along on execution and Hopefully, we'll execute here in the near future as far as closing that one out.

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Scott with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Hi. First question for you is just Follow-up on the Bermuda regulatory changes. I wanted to, I guess, ask if you If what you're seeing in some of those regulations and how it's impacting the market there would actually go as far as to impact The competitive environment, certainly you guys aren't necessarily competing directly with the private equity backed companies on every deal, but Where you do overlap with them, are you seeing any signs of an easing competitive environment related to this?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you. No, obviously, it's anecdotal. We look at every deal, but no, we have started seeing some signs as The Bermuda Regulator changes or speaks of changes, then the competitive environment does change. And As Todd mentioned, given our practices, that's only favorable for us.

Speaker 14

Got it. Second question I had is a little more broad for you, Tony. I wanted to ask, As we think through 2024, 1st full year as CEO, what are the what's the short list of things that you're most focused And I know that's broad and this has been in the works for a while, but I was just interested in hearing you opine on that.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks for the question. Look, our strategy is only 2 years old. And really, the focus is very much on execution. We feel we've got obviously incredibly Many, many opportunities across the globe.

Speaker 3

We're firing on all cylinders right now. Yes, the past 12 months has been really the only period post COVID when the world has fully opened up. So it's It's all about focus and execution and delivery. And teams are energized and excited, Strong balance sheet, incredible brand, all the positives are there. And it's now up to us to continue to focus and execute and deliver.

Operator

The next Question comes from Wes Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks for taking my follow-up. I had a question on the U. S. Traditional segment, I think we saw in the financials a remeasurement gain and you said mortality experience, I think, was favorable. So are you seeing anything new there or is that maybe just more quarterly volatility?

Speaker 3

Yes. For the

Speaker 1

order for the in the U. S. Mortality markets, as I mentioned in my comments, we saw some Very favorable mortality, primarily due to frequency. I don't think you saw anything unusual. It's pretty much widespread as far as A favorable experience there.

Speaker 5

Sure. And I guess, Todd, what I'm trying to kind of

Speaker 9

get at is, are you still kind

Speaker 5

of expecting excess mortality Continues into 2024 or are you kind of changing your thinking at all from your outlook at Investor Day?

Speaker 6

Yes. Maybe I'll take that one, Wes. So, yes, it's Jonathan. Yes, we do our outlook is still pretty much consistent with what we thought at Investor Day. So, We're pleased to see some of the trends where excess mortality in the population is coming down.

Speaker 6

I think now it's around 1% to 2%, if you look at the most recent couple of quarters. But we still believe that excess mortality will continue in the intermediate term. And of course, that's reflected in our Assumptions that we've got in our business and in our reserves. We haven't at this point changed our Expectation for long term mortality improvement.

Operator

The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thanks for taking the follow-up. Just a question on Asia. What's driving The such a good level of favorability in the traditional business, is it life insurance underwriting? Is it critical illness? Is it both?

Speaker 9

Because I'm guessing if it's critical illness, there might be something that's a little more sustainable to that, but just Curious if you how you're seeing that?

Speaker 3

Yes, maybe I'll take that one. I mean, really there's a number of drivers in Asia that we're very happy with. Part of it is the fact that we feel being a U. S. Company with obviously strong Asian presence and strong teams allows us to leverage off a sweet spot we have, which is being able to create new products Yes, with liabilities such as critical illness and mortality, but also connect That with the ability to reinsure on the asset side of the balance sheet.

Speaker 3

So that's a pretty unique attribute out there in Asia. So that's what's driving most of the performance is that ability to gain those exclusives and create more value for ourselves, as well as our partners to share in. Yes. Like you mentioned, I mean, critical illness is one of the major risks there, more so than mortality. But it's something that we've been doing in Asia and the rest

Operator

The next question comes from Jimmy Bhullar with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

I just wanted to follow-up on the Asia business and specifically on Australia on how that's been performing over the last few quarters, because I think you've obviously had charges there in the past, but I'm assuming that it's doing better given results than the Asia division overall.

Speaker 1

Yes. Hey, Jimmy, it's Todd. Yes. So for the quarter, for Australia, I think excluding notable items, There is a modest profit. And I think year to date, we're it's profitable.

Speaker 1

It's still not Back to the level that we would like to see it at, but it's moving in the right direction is We have been cautious there the last several years as far as new business. And that's so going forward things are I think heading in the right direction. Yes.

Speaker 3

And Jimmy, just strategically, I mean, that it is a strong example of The optionality we have across the world, I mean, we are able to assess the risk return of Many, many blocks and businesses across the world and when they meet the market, the market provides a risk return trade off that we like then We're able to pursue it. But the discipline we've shown over the number of years as well as The repricing of in force blocks there, has held us in good stead, as Todd said, in terms of the financial.

Speaker 10

And fair to assume that as part of LDTI, you would have looked at reserves and taken experience into sort of account for reserves in Australia as well?

Speaker 1

Yes, for any of the business subject to LDTI, I mean, yes, we had to update all of our best estimate assumptions.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tony Zhang for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you all for your questions and continued interest in RGA. On behalf of all the employees of RGA, I We'd love to congratulate Anna on her upcoming retirement. This was a very strong quarter, further demonstrating the substantial earning power in our business. We remain very well positioned to capitalize on the many growth opportunities. We are firing on all

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Key Takeaways

  • RGA reported 3Q23 adjusted operating earnings of $5.57 per share and a trailing-12-month adjusted operating ROE of 14.7% (14% excluding notable items).
  • Underwriting was broadly favorable with lower mortality in U.S. Individual and Group businesses, strong Asia Traditional results, and continued longevity gains in Global Financial Solutions.
  • Investment yields rose (non-spread portfolio at 4.72%, new money at 6.31%), impairments remained low, and RGA deployed $203 million of capital in Q3 (bringing YTD to $587 million) while repurchasing $50 million of shares.
  • The growth strategy is gaining traction via strong new business in Global PRT and Longevity, U.S. Traditional, Asia Traditional and Asia asset-intensive lines, with several exclusive client arrangements and industry awards.
  • CEO Anna Manning made her final quarterly call, passing leadership to Tony Chang, who affirmed RGA’s optimistic outlook, strong earnings power and ongoing commitment to shareholder returns.
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