NASDAQ:BWMN Bowman Consulting Group Q3 2023 Earnings Report $44.04 +1.13 (+2.63%) As of 03:36 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Bowman Consulting Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.34Consensus EPS $0.29Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/ABowman Consulting Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$94.43 millionExpected Revenue$90.40 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$4.03 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABowman Consulting Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/6/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, November 7, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBowman Consulting Group's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, November 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, November 6, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Bowman Consulting Group Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q3 performance: Gross revenue rose 33% year-over-year to $94.4 M with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.3%, demonstrating progress toward the company’s long-term targets. Strategic acquisitions: Bowman closed Excellence Engineering and Dennis Corporation in Q4, reinforcing its talent base and adjacency-focused M&A strategy without disrupting existing operations. Revenue diversification: Non-building infrastructure now represents 45% of total revenue (up from 30% at IPO), while backlog nears $300 M across building, transportation, and power & utilities segments. Policy tailwinds & innovation: The firm is capitalizing on IIJA and IRA funding still in early stages and investing in digital delivery, geospatial, and AI technologies to enhance margins over time. 2024 outlook: Bowman is guiding to net service billing of $345–360 M and adjusted EBITDA of $56–62 M, supported by a strong balance sheet with $14 M cash and a 1.2× leverage ratio. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBowman Consulting Group Q3 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Alyssa, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Bowman Consulting Group Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:37Thank you. Please note that many of the comments made today are considered forward looking statements under federal security laws. As described in the company's filings with the SEC, These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and the company is not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward looking statements. In addition, on today's call, The company will discuss certain non GAAP financial information such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and net service billing. You can find this information together with the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP information in the company's earnings press release an 8 ks filed with the SEC and on the company's investor website at investors. Operator00:01:30Bowman.com. Management will deliver prepared remarks, after which they will be taking live questions from published research analysts. Throughout the call, attendees on the webcast may post questions for management to answer on the call or in subsequent communications, but there will be no live Q and A from the webcast attendees. Replays of the call will be available on the company's investor website. Mr. Operator00:01:57Bowman, you may begin your prepared remarks. Speaker 100:02:01Thank you, Elisa. Good morning. Thank you, everyone, for joining the Bowman Consulting Q3 2023 earnings conference call. As usual, I'm joined here today by Bruce Lebovitz, our Chief Financial Officer. This past quarter is a solid indicator of what we are able to produce over the long term. Speaker 100:02:21Gross revenue approached $100,000,000 and our adjusted EBITDA margin on net revenue exceeded 18%. At the time of our IPO, just about 2.5 years ago, our 5 Your strategic growth objectives were to reach a $500,000,000 gross revenue run rate and high teen adjusted EBITDA margin, while maintaining a 10% to 15% net to gross spread. Our results this quarter year to date clearly demonstrate we're on a trajectory to achieve those goals. While we did not close any acquisitions during the Q3, we have closed 2 acquisitions here in the Q4. Accordingly, I'd like to take a moment to formally welcome all our new employees from Excellence Engineering and Dennis Corporation to their first earnings call, along with all other employees who have recently joined the Bowman team. Speaker 100:03:12As we continue to grow, our enduring ability to attract, Develop and retain talent is a testament to the culture and values that we're all committed to embracing and advancing. We continue to make good progress on our revenue diversification initiatives as evidenced by the ongoing increase in the contribution of non building infrastructure revenue, which reached 45% of our total revenue, up meaningfully from 30% in the year of our IPO. We continue to experience strong and what we believe to be sustainable long term demand for our services from both existing and new customers, including new to Bowman customers added to acquisitions. We're experiencing significant tailwinds related to the funding for Transportation, Energy and Re shoring initiatives which are propelling us forward. We believe the recent Fed signals regarding Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act Fund funded public transportation and infrastructure projects have been announced to date. Speaker 100:04:19This spending represents less than 20% of the more than $1,200,000,000,000 of funding secured under the IIJA. We're clearly still in the early stages of this spending. Another roughly $60,000,000,000 in grants, incentives and initiatives for clean energy, clean water and community resiliency projects have been announced under the Inflation Reduction Act. This likewise represents just a small percentage of the committed funding available into this program. As various deadlines for long term IRA qualification approach, the rush to start projects in The private sectors responded to funding by announcing over $600,000,000 in new manufacturing infrastructure projects in the U. Speaker 100:05:09S, including over $200,000,000 in clean energy, EVs, batteries and storage, all sectors in which we are active. Now I'm going to turn the call over to Bruce to review our financial results, after which I'll take a few minutes to discuss our markets, our M and A pipeline and our 2024 outlook. Bruce? Terrific. Thanks, Gary. Speaker 100:05:30The Q3 was a breakout quarter Speaker 200:05:32for us in terms of demonstrating our capacity for revenue growth and operational efficiency. As we continue to grow, not every quarter will be a reflection of the last one or predictive of the next one, but the trends we're demonstrating are representative of what we believe we can achieve over time. Gross revenue for the Q3 increased to 33% to $94,400,000 as compared to the Q3 of last year. Year over year, organic growth of gross revenue for the quarter was 11%. Net service billing, a non GAAP result for which we provide reconciliations in our press release and disclosures, increased 27% to $82,100,000 in the Q3 compared to the Q3 of last year. Speaker 200:06:16Year over year organic growth of net service billing was just over 9% in the quarter. During the Q3, Building infrastructure represented 55% of our gross revenue with transportation at 21% and Power and Utilities representing 20%. Non residential revenue represented nearly 66% of building infrastructure for 36% of gross revenue. Residential revenue represented just under 19% of gross revenue with what we would characterize as for sale related residential, accounting for just around 10% of gross revenue. In 2021, Building infrastructure represents nearly 70% of gross revenue. Speaker 200:07:00While we are pleased with the progress we're making towards our long term revenue diversification goals, There is more to be achieved. Year to date, gross revenue was up 36% to $253,300,000 for the 1st 9 months of last year. Year to date, organic growth of gross revenue was just under 22%. Year to date, net service billing increased 30 2% to 223,500,000 as compared to the 1st 9 months of last year. Year to date organic growth of net service billing just under 20%. Speaker 200:07:36Gross margin for the 2nd quarter was 51.6% on gross revenue, which was 70 basis points lower than gross margin in the Q3 last year. Year to date, gross margin was 51%, which is 40 basis points below the 1st 9 months of last year. We consider these to be normal fluctuations in gross margin based on mix of business and utilization, which impacts the allocation of fringe cost to COGS. Included in cost of goods sold for the quarter the year our $2,100,000 $5,300,000 of non cash stock compensation respectively. Net of these non cash costs, Gross margin would have been 54% and 53% for the quarter year to date, respectively. Speaker 200:08:20While we continue to believe these margins are normal for our current business model, We're optimistic that evolutions in disruptive technologies for our industry will help expand these margins over time. SG and A, which included $5,000,000 of non cash stock compensation for the quarter and $13,000,000 year to date, was up 160 basis points as a percentage of net service billing in the Q3 compared to last year, but was down 120 basis points sequentially when compared to the Q2 of this year. This sequential period reduction in SG and A as a percentage of net service billing is the predictable result of the combination of outsized labor investments made in the Q2 and increased revenue generated this quarter. For the Q3, we reported a net income of $1,200,000 which brings year to date net income to $1,100,000 inclusive of a $1,800,000 tax benefit in large part derived from R and D tax credits and windfalls related to stock vesting values higher than grant date fair value. Adjusted EBITDA was up 57% in the 2nd quarter to $15,100,000 as compared to Q3 last year. Speaker 200:09:35Adjusted EBITDA margin, net, increased 3 50 basis points to 18.3% in the quarter. Year to date adjusted EBITDA is up 45 percent to $35,800,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin net is up 140 basis points to 16%. As we grow, intra year margins can be uneven based on the timing of expenses and revenue mix. As such, we recommend investors focus on margin developed over multiple periods as a directional indicator. While this quarter's margin is a positive display of our potential, I don't believe it is the new baseline, at least not yet. Speaker 200:10:14Backlog at the end of the quarter was just under $300,000,000 and is made up of approximately 54% building infrastructure, 25% transportation, 19% power and utility and 2% other emerging revenue areas. We're pleased with our ability to generate backlog growth that continues to outpace revenue recognition. Backlog is work that's contracted to be performed and is capped at 18 months in the case of long term programmatic assignments. We generally expect roughly 75% of our backlog to turn in any 12 month period, but that number varies based on the composition of backlog. Cash flow from operations was $12,300,000 through 9 months, which represents a little over $10,000,000 in the quarter. Speaker 200:11:01Cash flow from operations before changes in working capital for the 9 months was nearly $21,800,000 We're pleased with our progress on cash flow generation. Net debt at the end of the quarter was just under $53,000,000 down from $61,000,000 on June 30. This net debt represents a leverage ratio of around 1.2 times trailing 4 quarters adjusted EBITDA. With over $14,000,000 in Cash on hand and over $45,000,000 of capacity under the line, we're pleased with the state of our balance sheet. On the tax front, we continue to monitor guidance issued with respect to changes to research and development expense capitalization. Speaker 200:11:42Based on recent IRS guidance, we continue to proceed with a belief that the characteristics of our business practices afford us the ability to expense our R and D costs currently as opposed to capitalizing them. Because this is evolving tax law, We continue to maintain an uncertain tax position referred to as a UTP relating to the possibility that in the future our position will change. The uncertain tax liability is reflected on our statement of cash flows before changes in working capital as deferred tax as if we as if it were spent, but it is later added back to cash from operations through accrued expenses since we're not actually expending the cash. This neutralizes its impact on cash from operations. On our balance sheet, the UTP is included in other non current liabilities along with accruals for contingent consideration. Speaker 200:12:37On September 30, and as of today, we have 14,600,000 shares outstanding, including all shares issued in connection with the restricted stock awards. During the Q3, based on what we believe was an undervaluation of our equity relative to the performance of the business, the multiples of our peer group and comparable transaction valuations. We established a limit order based buying program under our $10,000,000 stock repurchase authorization. During and subsequent to the quarter, we have purchased nearly 29,000 shares at an average price of $25.94 per share. While these numbers aren't big, they should communicate our commitment to flexible deployment of capital to protect and advance shareholder value. Speaker 200:13:21This quarter, we introduced a new non GAAP metric of adjusted EPS, for which we provide a reconciliation to GAAP EPS in our press release. I want to reiterate that adjusted EPS should be evaluated as a non GAAP measure that may not be calculated consistently with others in our peer group who likewise present this metric. In calculating this metric, Consistent with our peers, we add back costs associated with acquisitions and pre IPO stock compensation expense along with other non recurring non core expenses. We do not add back non cash stock compensation in the normal course. When computing the tax effect of these add backs, we first recalculate our tax expense exclusive of any periodic windfall or shortfall tax impact of non cash stock compensation vesting, then apply an average marginal effective tax rate to other add backs. Speaker 200:14:15Well, it may not necessarily be the most advantageous to us way to present the tax benefit, we feel it is the most accurate and reflective approach. We believe this is useful information for investors to use to evaluate us against our peers and as such We will continue to include it in our press releases going forward. As we near the end of the year, we're tightening our 2023 guidance and introducing our outlook for 2024 based on current backlog, a preliminary understanding of our clients' intentions for next year and our forecast for business development. For 2023, we're narrowing our forecast to net service billing to be in the range of $306,000,000 to 312,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA in the range of $48,000,000 to $52,000,000 For 2024, we are initiating guidance of $345,000,000 to $360,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA in a range of $56,000,000 to $62,000,000 As always, these do not contemplate future acquisitions. With that, I'm going to turn the call back over to Gary for concluding remarks. Speaker 100:15:17Thank you, Bruce. I'm going to take a moment here to discuss our markets, our M and A pipeline and our strategic planning before turning the call back over to the operator for our questions. Since we last reported our results, there hasn't been much change in terms of general profile demand for services in the market for infrastructure planning and engineering, which remains strong. What has evolved, however, is the breadth and scope of services we provide to meet that demand and the incremental wallet share and market share we can support. Our penetration of the traffic and transportation market is growing as we take on new clients, larger assignments and expanding scopes of service covering roads, Bridges and Highways, Railroad Infrastructure, Bus and Light Rail and Aviation. Speaker 100:16:04I'm particularly encouraged by recent wins in our East Coast Transportation Group that continues to expand our assignments throughout Florida and Rhode Island. We expect to continue to add several new departments of transportation to our client roster over the next 12 months. In the power and utility market, we continue to grow our footprint and service offerings through acquisitions and strategic hiring. Our electric undergrounding practice continues to be a growing market for us as we expand our client base from Florida and the Mid Atlantic to Southern California and several markets in between. We recently announced expansion into Nevada as we grow our engagement with our largest gas utility client for whom we are working on a series of multiyear programs for pipeline replacement, new construction and high pressure gas station design. Speaker 100:16:56We are actively engaged in efforts to build our gas pipeline revenue throughout both Nevada and California. With the excellence engineering team now on board in Tulsa, we're experiencing increasing demand in our energy services practice for upstream and midstream pipeline projects throughout the Central and Midwest regions. On the renewable front, battery storage facilities and commercial solar are among our fast to growing revenue generators with EV related infrastructure close behind. We continue to experience growth in our building infrastructure group with much of that coming from non residential assignments. Data centers, quick serve restaurants, municipal facilities and other non urban Commercial clients are keeping us very busy. Speaker 100:17:42On the residential front, homebuilders, multifamily developers and build for rent owners appear optimistic about the mid- and long term demand profiles in their markets. As evidenced by comments made on recent homebuilder earnings calls, There appears to be renewed commitment to investing in the creation of finished lot inventory to meet stronger secular demand for years to come. Within emerging markets, we've had several big wins in mining with top tier mine operators in Arizona, including a large solvent extraction process design award and multiple surveying assignments. In the water and wastewater market, we have been experiencing an uptick in design and engineering contracts for new sewage systems, elevated water storage tanks and transport lines. We recently completed a pilot program for an innovative rest area wastewater reclamation system with application for 1,000 of rest areas nationally. Speaker 100:18:36While Geospatial is technically a service line for us, I want to talk about Impact it is having on our industry, our vision for its future at Bowman and investments we are making in advanced surveying, mapping and high resolution imaging technologies. Several of our acquisitions have been focused on developing a comprehensive end to end geospatial capability within Bowman. As of today, our broadly defined geospatial group generates about 30% of our revenue across all markets. We currently operate at both ground level and low altitudes utilizing traditional survey equipment and advanced geomatics technologies, including UAVs, UAS and LiDAR to develop both 2- and three-dimensional visualizations for our clients in a manner they can utilize with their vendors and customers. These skills create tremendous opportunity for us as the technologies advance and as our customers recognize the value proposition associated with virtual modeling, digital interaction and high resolution imaging. Speaker 100:19:38Recent investments in mobile Technologies, for example, have enabled us to secure new assignments with interstate highway operators based on the requirements associated with the speed of travel in these settings. Our balance sheet positions us to continue to grow this service aggressively, both through technology investment and acquisitions. Our industry is evolving at a rapid pace with respect to the introduction of technologies that help us satisfy demand and deliver better solutions in an efficient and I am committed to Bowman being among the technological elites in the industry. We're investing in digital delivery of services and our early adopters of new technologies, which provide disruptive approaches to accelerating growth and enhancing margins over time. We're actively engaging with solutions related to AI capabilities, GIS systems, high resolution imaging equipment, mapping and modeling software, digital twin technologies, generative design and more. Speaker 100:20:40This commitment to digital technologies will I believe Create a beneficial differentiation for Bowman in the short and long term. Since going public, we focused our M and A program on a theme of adjacency, whereby we identify and transact with businesses that complement our evolving core suite of services, geographies, client needs and skill sets. I am pleased to report that our pipeline remains full of adjacency focused opportunities within our target size and profile. We expect to continue to be active acquirers during the remainder of this year and into 2024. I will conclude by reiterating that we maintain a positive outlook toward the remainder of this year and next year as we progress toward achieving our long term strategic goals. Speaker 100:21:29Thank you for participating in today's call and thank you to all our employees for everything you do for Bowman, our clients, our shareholders and our communities. Operator, I'll now turn the call back to you for questions and answers. Operator00:21:46To remind everyone in order to ask a question, We'll pause for a moment to compile the Q and A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Spyhala with Craig Hallum. Your line is open. Speaker 300:22:06Yes. Good morning, Gary and Bruce. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:22:10Good morning, Adam. Welcome. Speaker 300:22:13Good morning. Thank you. First for me on good to see the continued diversification of the business. Can you touch on transportation and power and utilities? Just some of the drivers that you're seeing there and if you're starting to see some of the infrastructure dollars coming out and how you're expecting this to unfold as we move Structured dollars coming out and how you're expecting this to unfold as we move forward. Speaker 100:22:35Clearly, They're both driven in the currently by IHAA, IRA and similar programs. I know the underlying there's a secular driver of just the need to improve these facilities. So there's strong drivers for those programs. We're still in the early innings, as I mentioned on the call, of the IIJA funding. So we are starting to see some of that flow. Speaker 100:23:04But the outlook in the next year and ensuing years is going to be much stronger. Speaker 300:23:12Understood. Thanks. And then just maybe second, can you talk about the extent that you're seeing higher rates and kind of macro Impacting some of the bidding. I mean, good to see the backlog expansion, but just can you talk about that a little bit, please? Speaker 100:23:26Higher interest rates, you mean, I assume? Speaker 300:23:30Yes, just kind of interest rates and just some of the broader kind of macro uncertainty and any impact you're seeing there. Speaker 100:23:41We're seeing very little impact that we feel is driven by interest rates. Certainly in the residential market that has slowed down. We are seeing, I think, green shoots Of that coming back to life as people redo their cap tables and so forth for some of the build to rent projects. So it's but overall, as far as impending recession Or adverse effects of interest rates, we're seeing that as being a very little adverse effect on our business. Speaker 300:24:24All right. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll turn it over. Speaker 100:24:28Thanks, Sharon. Good to have you on board. Operator00:24:34Your next question comes from the line of Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Your line is open. Speaker 400:24:43Good morning, Gary and Bruce. Very nice quarter. Speaker 200:24:45Good morning, Alex. Thank you. Thanks, Alex. Good morning, Min as well. Speaker 400:24:50Couple of quick questions here. First, Bruce, maybe could you break down the commercial slice of the pie a little bit greater to try to understand commercial office buildings, data centers, that kind of thing. Speaker 200:25:05Yes. I actually really don't get too granular about the composition of commercial. I would say that the biggest participant in that market is data centers today, Followed by what we think of sort of convenience commercial, which probably talked to as sort of a combination of small store convenience store gas station, quick serve restaurant and the category followed then by or think of as Probably big box structures and then that could be a large commercial like a large warehouse store or an industrial facility. Last in that list would be commercial office And we talk about there's sort of in the 3 concentric circle model of downtown urban, we're not very active at all. The 2nd circle of suburban, mostly transit oriented, we're fairly active in that, and it is A healthy part of the commercial market. Speaker 200:26:13And then that exurban, the 3rd ring, we would say is probably more active as redevelopment of commercial or reuse for sort of a facility that's in its 2nd or third generation of life, being converted from old warehouse So flex to data center or converted to residential. So that's about the makeup of that market. Speaker 400:26:42Very helpful. And then when we talk about gross margins, can you talk about obviously, it's hard for us to tell As you make acquisitions, whether or not your these acquisitions are accretive or dilutive to margins. But maybe from a macro standpoint, you could talk about Sort of the headwinds or the tailwinds to gross margins on a go forward basis. Speaker 200:27:04Yes. I'll start with The strategy of our acquisitions has been high frequency, lower dollar and lower risk profile. And as such, they in the very short run, no one of them is really driving margin because size is so disparate between the incoming and the existing. So we think that they are all over Time accretive to margin by virtue of their existence in our portfolio, the scale that they create. But I wouldn't suggest at this point that any one of them has such a disparate profile in margin that is going to drive gross. Speaker 200:27:53And so gross margin over time for us sort of with a consistent set of product offerings. We'll stay in this, we think, sort of low 50% range. It does depend a little bit on utilization from period to period because we allocate fringe along with direct costs. So They said there's higher utilization. We get a little more fringe going into gross margin. Speaker 200:28:20But at some point, we think that technologies can be introduced that will either periodically or long term Positively impact gross margin. Did I answer the question? Make sure I got it. Speaker 400:28:41Sure did. And then just one last question. Coming back to kind of multifamily and single family residential construction, There seems to be maybe a little bit of concern that multifamily residential might Start to slow down going into 2024. What are your views on that? Speaker 100:29:05We are seeing some slowdown. Multifamily is a fairly small part of our overall portfolio. A large part over the past couple of years has been the Build Direct, which some could maybe characterize as horizontal multifamily. And we are really starting to see and frankly, it's more anecdotal, Maybe the spirits that we're hearing from our clients, but we feel very optimistic that, that market is getting ready to heat back up. Speaker 200:29:39And the elements of the residential market are generally countercyclical to each other that housing demand Remains the distribution of it may change. So at some points, people don't want to buy a house, they want to rent till they decide to buy a house. And so we're sort of agnostic to which component of residential is working at any given time because the overall market is what we're serving. Speaker 400:30:09Very helpful. Thank you very Speaker 200:30:11Thanks, Alex. Operator00:30:17Your next question comes from the line of Oliver Cornus with D. A. Davidson. Your line is open. Speaker 500:30:28Hey guys, thanks so much for having my call. I'm on for Brent this morning. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:30:32Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 500:30:35Yes. I was wondering, you guys had real strong cash generation in 3Q. Do we think that that's going to continue in 4Q? Speaker 200:30:45We think that we're on a good path for positive cash generation, whether it continues at the exact pace. 4th quarter is always a little bit tougher of a quarter for us. Just the calendar can interrupt a business that is Human driven and with holidays. So I think it will still continue to be strong in the 4th quarter. It will be exactly The 3rd is exactly predictive, a 4th might be a little lighter, but I don't think it's meaningfully different. Speaker 500:31:21Awesome. And what organic growth rate is embedded in the guidance for 2024? Which areas do you anticipate seeing some contraction in 2024, if any? Speaker 100:31:3610% to 12% is currently inferred in that guidance areas of contraction. We are really not programming areas of contraction per se. We feel like the interest rate sensitive areas of our business, say the residential has we've sort of seen the contraction on the rebound there. So we haven't programmed necessarily strong rebound, but no contraction. Speaker 200:32:06Yes. I think it's important to characterize the way we look forward as you ask organic. At some point, we sort of take the mix of everything that's in the Stew and grow it year over year. And so we don't really necessarily break it out, like What's acquisitive? What's there's no new acquisition obviously. Speaker 200:32:25And we sort of say, okay, the base of business we have based on when we bought it and how it annualizes and what we think it can grow at. Speaker 500:32:34Okay. And you guys indicated earlier, I guess there's no Plan for some huge pending M and A that would then kind of separate the overall growth from the organic numbers pretty significantly. Speaker 200:32:48Well, I think we should say that there is always upcoming acquisition in our pipeline. So we don't include any acquisitions that haven't closed in the guidance at the time that we issue the guidance. I would not suggest that there won't be meaningful acquisition In the future that will impact the guidance when it occurs, but it is not contemplated and included in it today. Speaker 500:33:16Sure. Awesome. Thanks so much for your time guys. I'll jump back in the queue. Speaker 200:33:21Thanks a lot. Operator00:33:25There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Bowman, I turn the call back over to you. Speaker 100:33:31Thank you, Elisa. We'll just wrap up By thanking everybody at Bowman for hard work, dedication, which turned in a good quarter. Looking forward to the same coming up in this quarter and next year. Thanks to all of our owners for the faith you show in us And looking forward to seeing everybody at upcoming conferences and we're about that time of year. Everybody have a good holiday till we talk to you again.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Bowman Consulting Group Earnings HeadlinesBowman Consulting Group Awarded Contract for West End Container Yard Redevelopment at Port of HoustonSeptember 18, 2025 | quiverquant.comQBowman Selected for Port of Houston Container Terminal Redevelopment ProjectSeptember 18, 2025 | globenewswire.comMarket Panic: Trump Just Dropped a Bomb on Your Stockstock Market Panic: Trump Just Dropped a Bomb on Your Stocks The market is in freefall—and Trump's new tariffs just lit the fuse. 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Email Address About Bowman Consulting GroupBowman Consulting Group (NASDAQ:BWMN) (NASDAQ: BWMN) is a multidisciplinary professional services firm that provides engineering, environmental, planning and surveying services to public and private sector clients. Its service offerings encompass civil, geotechnical and environmental engineering; land development planning and permitting; construction management; survey and geospatial services; and ecological and water resources consulting. The firm supports infrastructure, real estate, energy, utilities and telecommunications projects, delivering site characterization, design, permitting and construction-phase oversight. Since its founding in 1980, Bowman Consulting Group has grown organically and through strategic acquisitions to expand its technical capabilities and geographic footprint. The company partners with municipalities, state and federal agencies, commercial developers and industrial clients to address complex site development and infrastructure challenges. Bowman’s integrated service model is designed to streamline project delivery, reduce risk and enhance cost efficiency across all phases of a project lifecycle. Headquartered in the United States, Bowman Consulting Group operates a network of regional offices across North America, serving clients in the U.S. and Canada. This regional approach enables the firm to combine local market knowledge with centralized technical expertise. Sam H. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Alyssa, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Bowman Consulting Group Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:37Thank you. Please note that many of the comments made today are considered forward looking statements under federal security laws. As described in the company's filings with the SEC, These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and the company is not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward looking statements. In addition, on today's call, The company will discuss certain non GAAP financial information such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and net service billing. You can find this information together with the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP information in the company's earnings press release an 8 ks filed with the SEC and on the company's investor website at investors. Operator00:01:30Bowman.com. Management will deliver prepared remarks, after which they will be taking live questions from published research analysts. Throughout the call, attendees on the webcast may post questions for management to answer on the call or in subsequent communications, but there will be no live Q and A from the webcast attendees. Replays of the call will be available on the company's investor website. Mr. Operator00:01:57Bowman, you may begin your prepared remarks. Speaker 100:02:01Thank you, Elisa. Good morning. Thank you, everyone, for joining the Bowman Consulting Q3 2023 earnings conference call. As usual, I'm joined here today by Bruce Lebovitz, our Chief Financial Officer. This past quarter is a solid indicator of what we are able to produce over the long term. Speaker 100:02:21Gross revenue approached $100,000,000 and our adjusted EBITDA margin on net revenue exceeded 18%. At the time of our IPO, just about 2.5 years ago, our 5 Your strategic growth objectives were to reach a $500,000,000 gross revenue run rate and high teen adjusted EBITDA margin, while maintaining a 10% to 15% net to gross spread. Our results this quarter year to date clearly demonstrate we're on a trajectory to achieve those goals. While we did not close any acquisitions during the Q3, we have closed 2 acquisitions here in the Q4. Accordingly, I'd like to take a moment to formally welcome all our new employees from Excellence Engineering and Dennis Corporation to their first earnings call, along with all other employees who have recently joined the Bowman team. Speaker 100:03:12As we continue to grow, our enduring ability to attract, Develop and retain talent is a testament to the culture and values that we're all committed to embracing and advancing. We continue to make good progress on our revenue diversification initiatives as evidenced by the ongoing increase in the contribution of non building infrastructure revenue, which reached 45% of our total revenue, up meaningfully from 30% in the year of our IPO. We continue to experience strong and what we believe to be sustainable long term demand for our services from both existing and new customers, including new to Bowman customers added to acquisitions. We're experiencing significant tailwinds related to the funding for Transportation, Energy and Re shoring initiatives which are propelling us forward. We believe the recent Fed signals regarding Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act Fund funded public transportation and infrastructure projects have been announced to date. Speaker 100:04:19This spending represents less than 20% of the more than $1,200,000,000,000 of funding secured under the IIJA. We're clearly still in the early stages of this spending. Another roughly $60,000,000,000 in grants, incentives and initiatives for clean energy, clean water and community resiliency projects have been announced under the Inflation Reduction Act. This likewise represents just a small percentage of the committed funding available into this program. As various deadlines for long term IRA qualification approach, the rush to start projects in The private sectors responded to funding by announcing over $600,000,000 in new manufacturing infrastructure projects in the U. Speaker 100:05:09S, including over $200,000,000 in clean energy, EVs, batteries and storage, all sectors in which we are active. Now I'm going to turn the call over to Bruce to review our financial results, after which I'll take a few minutes to discuss our markets, our M and A pipeline and our 2024 outlook. Bruce? Terrific. Thanks, Gary. Speaker 100:05:30The Q3 was a breakout quarter Speaker 200:05:32for us in terms of demonstrating our capacity for revenue growth and operational efficiency. As we continue to grow, not every quarter will be a reflection of the last one or predictive of the next one, but the trends we're demonstrating are representative of what we believe we can achieve over time. Gross revenue for the Q3 increased to 33% to $94,400,000 as compared to the Q3 of last year. Year over year, organic growth of gross revenue for the quarter was 11%. Net service billing, a non GAAP result for which we provide reconciliations in our press release and disclosures, increased 27% to $82,100,000 in the Q3 compared to the Q3 of last year. Speaker 200:06:16Year over year organic growth of net service billing was just over 9% in the quarter. During the Q3, Building infrastructure represented 55% of our gross revenue with transportation at 21% and Power and Utilities representing 20%. Non residential revenue represented nearly 66% of building infrastructure for 36% of gross revenue. Residential revenue represented just under 19% of gross revenue with what we would characterize as for sale related residential, accounting for just around 10% of gross revenue. In 2021, Building infrastructure represents nearly 70% of gross revenue. Speaker 200:07:00While we are pleased with the progress we're making towards our long term revenue diversification goals, There is more to be achieved. Year to date, gross revenue was up 36% to $253,300,000 for the 1st 9 months of last year. Year to date, organic growth of gross revenue was just under 22%. Year to date, net service billing increased 30 2% to 223,500,000 as compared to the 1st 9 months of last year. Year to date organic growth of net service billing just under 20%. Speaker 200:07:36Gross margin for the 2nd quarter was 51.6% on gross revenue, which was 70 basis points lower than gross margin in the Q3 last year. Year to date, gross margin was 51%, which is 40 basis points below the 1st 9 months of last year. We consider these to be normal fluctuations in gross margin based on mix of business and utilization, which impacts the allocation of fringe cost to COGS. Included in cost of goods sold for the quarter the year our $2,100,000 $5,300,000 of non cash stock compensation respectively. Net of these non cash costs, Gross margin would have been 54% and 53% for the quarter year to date, respectively. Speaker 200:08:20While we continue to believe these margins are normal for our current business model, We're optimistic that evolutions in disruptive technologies for our industry will help expand these margins over time. SG and A, which included $5,000,000 of non cash stock compensation for the quarter and $13,000,000 year to date, was up 160 basis points as a percentage of net service billing in the Q3 compared to last year, but was down 120 basis points sequentially when compared to the Q2 of this year. This sequential period reduction in SG and A as a percentage of net service billing is the predictable result of the combination of outsized labor investments made in the Q2 and increased revenue generated this quarter. For the Q3, we reported a net income of $1,200,000 which brings year to date net income to $1,100,000 inclusive of a $1,800,000 tax benefit in large part derived from R and D tax credits and windfalls related to stock vesting values higher than grant date fair value. Adjusted EBITDA was up 57% in the 2nd quarter to $15,100,000 as compared to Q3 last year. Speaker 200:09:35Adjusted EBITDA margin, net, increased 3 50 basis points to 18.3% in the quarter. Year to date adjusted EBITDA is up 45 percent to $35,800,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin net is up 140 basis points to 16%. As we grow, intra year margins can be uneven based on the timing of expenses and revenue mix. As such, we recommend investors focus on margin developed over multiple periods as a directional indicator. While this quarter's margin is a positive display of our potential, I don't believe it is the new baseline, at least not yet. Speaker 200:10:14Backlog at the end of the quarter was just under $300,000,000 and is made up of approximately 54% building infrastructure, 25% transportation, 19% power and utility and 2% other emerging revenue areas. We're pleased with our ability to generate backlog growth that continues to outpace revenue recognition. Backlog is work that's contracted to be performed and is capped at 18 months in the case of long term programmatic assignments. We generally expect roughly 75% of our backlog to turn in any 12 month period, but that number varies based on the composition of backlog. Cash flow from operations was $12,300,000 through 9 months, which represents a little over $10,000,000 in the quarter. Speaker 200:11:01Cash flow from operations before changes in working capital for the 9 months was nearly $21,800,000 We're pleased with our progress on cash flow generation. Net debt at the end of the quarter was just under $53,000,000 down from $61,000,000 on June 30. This net debt represents a leverage ratio of around 1.2 times trailing 4 quarters adjusted EBITDA. With over $14,000,000 in Cash on hand and over $45,000,000 of capacity under the line, we're pleased with the state of our balance sheet. On the tax front, we continue to monitor guidance issued with respect to changes to research and development expense capitalization. Speaker 200:11:42Based on recent IRS guidance, we continue to proceed with a belief that the characteristics of our business practices afford us the ability to expense our R and D costs currently as opposed to capitalizing them. Because this is evolving tax law, We continue to maintain an uncertain tax position referred to as a UTP relating to the possibility that in the future our position will change. The uncertain tax liability is reflected on our statement of cash flows before changes in working capital as deferred tax as if we as if it were spent, but it is later added back to cash from operations through accrued expenses since we're not actually expending the cash. This neutralizes its impact on cash from operations. On our balance sheet, the UTP is included in other non current liabilities along with accruals for contingent consideration. Speaker 200:12:37On September 30, and as of today, we have 14,600,000 shares outstanding, including all shares issued in connection with the restricted stock awards. During the Q3, based on what we believe was an undervaluation of our equity relative to the performance of the business, the multiples of our peer group and comparable transaction valuations. We established a limit order based buying program under our $10,000,000 stock repurchase authorization. During and subsequent to the quarter, we have purchased nearly 29,000 shares at an average price of $25.94 per share. While these numbers aren't big, they should communicate our commitment to flexible deployment of capital to protect and advance shareholder value. Speaker 200:13:21This quarter, we introduced a new non GAAP metric of adjusted EPS, for which we provide a reconciliation to GAAP EPS in our press release. I want to reiterate that adjusted EPS should be evaluated as a non GAAP measure that may not be calculated consistently with others in our peer group who likewise present this metric. In calculating this metric, Consistent with our peers, we add back costs associated with acquisitions and pre IPO stock compensation expense along with other non recurring non core expenses. We do not add back non cash stock compensation in the normal course. When computing the tax effect of these add backs, we first recalculate our tax expense exclusive of any periodic windfall or shortfall tax impact of non cash stock compensation vesting, then apply an average marginal effective tax rate to other add backs. Speaker 200:14:15Well, it may not necessarily be the most advantageous to us way to present the tax benefit, we feel it is the most accurate and reflective approach. We believe this is useful information for investors to use to evaluate us against our peers and as such We will continue to include it in our press releases going forward. As we near the end of the year, we're tightening our 2023 guidance and introducing our outlook for 2024 based on current backlog, a preliminary understanding of our clients' intentions for next year and our forecast for business development. For 2023, we're narrowing our forecast to net service billing to be in the range of $306,000,000 to 312,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA in the range of $48,000,000 to $52,000,000 For 2024, we are initiating guidance of $345,000,000 to $360,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA in a range of $56,000,000 to $62,000,000 As always, these do not contemplate future acquisitions. With that, I'm going to turn the call back over to Gary for concluding remarks. Speaker 100:15:17Thank you, Bruce. I'm going to take a moment here to discuss our markets, our M and A pipeline and our strategic planning before turning the call back over to the operator for our questions. Since we last reported our results, there hasn't been much change in terms of general profile demand for services in the market for infrastructure planning and engineering, which remains strong. What has evolved, however, is the breadth and scope of services we provide to meet that demand and the incremental wallet share and market share we can support. Our penetration of the traffic and transportation market is growing as we take on new clients, larger assignments and expanding scopes of service covering roads, Bridges and Highways, Railroad Infrastructure, Bus and Light Rail and Aviation. Speaker 100:16:04I'm particularly encouraged by recent wins in our East Coast Transportation Group that continues to expand our assignments throughout Florida and Rhode Island. We expect to continue to add several new departments of transportation to our client roster over the next 12 months. In the power and utility market, we continue to grow our footprint and service offerings through acquisitions and strategic hiring. Our electric undergrounding practice continues to be a growing market for us as we expand our client base from Florida and the Mid Atlantic to Southern California and several markets in between. We recently announced expansion into Nevada as we grow our engagement with our largest gas utility client for whom we are working on a series of multiyear programs for pipeline replacement, new construction and high pressure gas station design. Speaker 100:16:56We are actively engaged in efforts to build our gas pipeline revenue throughout both Nevada and California. With the excellence engineering team now on board in Tulsa, we're experiencing increasing demand in our energy services practice for upstream and midstream pipeline projects throughout the Central and Midwest regions. On the renewable front, battery storage facilities and commercial solar are among our fast to growing revenue generators with EV related infrastructure close behind. We continue to experience growth in our building infrastructure group with much of that coming from non residential assignments. Data centers, quick serve restaurants, municipal facilities and other non urban Commercial clients are keeping us very busy. Speaker 100:17:42On the residential front, homebuilders, multifamily developers and build for rent owners appear optimistic about the mid- and long term demand profiles in their markets. As evidenced by comments made on recent homebuilder earnings calls, There appears to be renewed commitment to investing in the creation of finished lot inventory to meet stronger secular demand for years to come. Within emerging markets, we've had several big wins in mining with top tier mine operators in Arizona, including a large solvent extraction process design award and multiple surveying assignments. In the water and wastewater market, we have been experiencing an uptick in design and engineering contracts for new sewage systems, elevated water storage tanks and transport lines. We recently completed a pilot program for an innovative rest area wastewater reclamation system with application for 1,000 of rest areas nationally. Speaker 100:18:36While Geospatial is technically a service line for us, I want to talk about Impact it is having on our industry, our vision for its future at Bowman and investments we are making in advanced surveying, mapping and high resolution imaging technologies. Several of our acquisitions have been focused on developing a comprehensive end to end geospatial capability within Bowman. As of today, our broadly defined geospatial group generates about 30% of our revenue across all markets. We currently operate at both ground level and low altitudes utilizing traditional survey equipment and advanced geomatics technologies, including UAVs, UAS and LiDAR to develop both 2- and three-dimensional visualizations for our clients in a manner they can utilize with their vendors and customers. These skills create tremendous opportunity for us as the technologies advance and as our customers recognize the value proposition associated with virtual modeling, digital interaction and high resolution imaging. Speaker 100:19:38Recent investments in mobile Technologies, for example, have enabled us to secure new assignments with interstate highway operators based on the requirements associated with the speed of travel in these settings. Our balance sheet positions us to continue to grow this service aggressively, both through technology investment and acquisitions. Our industry is evolving at a rapid pace with respect to the introduction of technologies that help us satisfy demand and deliver better solutions in an efficient and I am committed to Bowman being among the technological elites in the industry. We're investing in digital delivery of services and our early adopters of new technologies, which provide disruptive approaches to accelerating growth and enhancing margins over time. We're actively engaging with solutions related to AI capabilities, GIS systems, high resolution imaging equipment, mapping and modeling software, digital twin technologies, generative design and more. Speaker 100:20:40This commitment to digital technologies will I believe Create a beneficial differentiation for Bowman in the short and long term. Since going public, we focused our M and A program on a theme of adjacency, whereby we identify and transact with businesses that complement our evolving core suite of services, geographies, client needs and skill sets. I am pleased to report that our pipeline remains full of adjacency focused opportunities within our target size and profile. We expect to continue to be active acquirers during the remainder of this year and into 2024. I will conclude by reiterating that we maintain a positive outlook toward the remainder of this year and next year as we progress toward achieving our long term strategic goals. Speaker 100:21:29Thank you for participating in today's call and thank you to all our employees for everything you do for Bowman, our clients, our shareholders and our communities. Operator, I'll now turn the call back to you for questions and answers. Operator00:21:46To remind everyone in order to ask a question, We'll pause for a moment to compile the Q and A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Spyhala with Craig Hallum. Your line is open. Speaker 300:22:06Yes. Good morning, Gary and Bruce. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:22:10Good morning, Adam. Welcome. Speaker 300:22:13Good morning. Thank you. First for me on good to see the continued diversification of the business. Can you touch on transportation and power and utilities? Just some of the drivers that you're seeing there and if you're starting to see some of the infrastructure dollars coming out and how you're expecting this to unfold as we move Structured dollars coming out and how you're expecting this to unfold as we move forward. Speaker 100:22:35Clearly, They're both driven in the currently by IHAA, IRA and similar programs. I know the underlying there's a secular driver of just the need to improve these facilities. So there's strong drivers for those programs. We're still in the early innings, as I mentioned on the call, of the IIJA funding. So we are starting to see some of that flow. Speaker 100:23:04But the outlook in the next year and ensuing years is going to be much stronger. Speaker 300:23:12Understood. Thanks. And then just maybe second, can you talk about the extent that you're seeing higher rates and kind of macro Impacting some of the bidding. I mean, good to see the backlog expansion, but just can you talk about that a little bit, please? Speaker 100:23:26Higher interest rates, you mean, I assume? Speaker 300:23:30Yes, just kind of interest rates and just some of the broader kind of macro uncertainty and any impact you're seeing there. Speaker 100:23:41We're seeing very little impact that we feel is driven by interest rates. Certainly in the residential market that has slowed down. We are seeing, I think, green shoots Of that coming back to life as people redo their cap tables and so forth for some of the build to rent projects. So it's but overall, as far as impending recession Or adverse effects of interest rates, we're seeing that as being a very little adverse effect on our business. Speaker 300:24:24All right. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll turn it over. Speaker 100:24:28Thanks, Sharon. Good to have you on board. Operator00:24:34Your next question comes from the line of Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Your line is open. Speaker 400:24:43Good morning, Gary and Bruce. Very nice quarter. Speaker 200:24:45Good morning, Alex. Thank you. Thanks, Alex. Good morning, Min as well. Speaker 400:24:50Couple of quick questions here. First, Bruce, maybe could you break down the commercial slice of the pie a little bit greater to try to understand commercial office buildings, data centers, that kind of thing. Speaker 200:25:05Yes. I actually really don't get too granular about the composition of commercial. I would say that the biggest participant in that market is data centers today, Followed by what we think of sort of convenience commercial, which probably talked to as sort of a combination of small store convenience store gas station, quick serve restaurant and the category followed then by or think of as Probably big box structures and then that could be a large commercial like a large warehouse store or an industrial facility. Last in that list would be commercial office And we talk about there's sort of in the 3 concentric circle model of downtown urban, we're not very active at all. The 2nd circle of suburban, mostly transit oriented, we're fairly active in that, and it is A healthy part of the commercial market. Speaker 200:26:13And then that exurban, the 3rd ring, we would say is probably more active as redevelopment of commercial or reuse for sort of a facility that's in its 2nd or third generation of life, being converted from old warehouse So flex to data center or converted to residential. So that's about the makeup of that market. Speaker 400:26:42Very helpful. And then when we talk about gross margins, can you talk about obviously, it's hard for us to tell As you make acquisitions, whether or not your these acquisitions are accretive or dilutive to margins. But maybe from a macro standpoint, you could talk about Sort of the headwinds or the tailwinds to gross margins on a go forward basis. Speaker 200:27:04Yes. I'll start with The strategy of our acquisitions has been high frequency, lower dollar and lower risk profile. And as such, they in the very short run, no one of them is really driving margin because size is so disparate between the incoming and the existing. So we think that they are all over Time accretive to margin by virtue of their existence in our portfolio, the scale that they create. But I wouldn't suggest at this point that any one of them has such a disparate profile in margin that is going to drive gross. Speaker 200:27:53And so gross margin over time for us sort of with a consistent set of product offerings. We'll stay in this, we think, sort of low 50% range. It does depend a little bit on utilization from period to period because we allocate fringe along with direct costs. So They said there's higher utilization. We get a little more fringe going into gross margin. Speaker 200:28:20But at some point, we think that technologies can be introduced that will either periodically or long term Positively impact gross margin. Did I answer the question? Make sure I got it. Speaker 400:28:41Sure did. And then just one last question. Coming back to kind of multifamily and single family residential construction, There seems to be maybe a little bit of concern that multifamily residential might Start to slow down going into 2024. What are your views on that? Speaker 100:29:05We are seeing some slowdown. Multifamily is a fairly small part of our overall portfolio. A large part over the past couple of years has been the Build Direct, which some could maybe characterize as horizontal multifamily. And we are really starting to see and frankly, it's more anecdotal, Maybe the spirits that we're hearing from our clients, but we feel very optimistic that, that market is getting ready to heat back up. Speaker 200:29:39And the elements of the residential market are generally countercyclical to each other that housing demand Remains the distribution of it may change. So at some points, people don't want to buy a house, they want to rent till they decide to buy a house. And so we're sort of agnostic to which component of residential is working at any given time because the overall market is what we're serving. Speaker 400:30:09Very helpful. Thank you very Speaker 200:30:11Thanks, Alex. Operator00:30:17Your next question comes from the line of Oliver Cornus with D. A. Davidson. Your line is open. Speaker 500:30:28Hey guys, thanks so much for having my call. I'm on for Brent this morning. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:30:32Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 500:30:35Yes. I was wondering, you guys had real strong cash generation in 3Q. Do we think that that's going to continue in 4Q? Speaker 200:30:45We think that we're on a good path for positive cash generation, whether it continues at the exact pace. 4th quarter is always a little bit tougher of a quarter for us. Just the calendar can interrupt a business that is Human driven and with holidays. So I think it will still continue to be strong in the 4th quarter. It will be exactly The 3rd is exactly predictive, a 4th might be a little lighter, but I don't think it's meaningfully different. Speaker 500:31:21Awesome. And what organic growth rate is embedded in the guidance for 2024? Which areas do you anticipate seeing some contraction in 2024, if any? Speaker 100:31:3610% to 12% is currently inferred in that guidance areas of contraction. We are really not programming areas of contraction per se. We feel like the interest rate sensitive areas of our business, say the residential has we've sort of seen the contraction on the rebound there. So we haven't programmed necessarily strong rebound, but no contraction. Speaker 200:32:06Yes. I think it's important to characterize the way we look forward as you ask organic. At some point, we sort of take the mix of everything that's in the Stew and grow it year over year. And so we don't really necessarily break it out, like What's acquisitive? What's there's no new acquisition obviously. Speaker 200:32:25And we sort of say, okay, the base of business we have based on when we bought it and how it annualizes and what we think it can grow at. Speaker 500:32:34Okay. And you guys indicated earlier, I guess there's no Plan for some huge pending M and A that would then kind of separate the overall growth from the organic numbers pretty significantly. Speaker 200:32:48Well, I think we should say that there is always upcoming acquisition in our pipeline. So we don't include any acquisitions that haven't closed in the guidance at the time that we issue the guidance. I would not suggest that there won't be meaningful acquisition In the future that will impact the guidance when it occurs, but it is not contemplated and included in it today. Speaker 500:33:16Sure. Awesome. Thanks so much for your time guys. I'll jump back in the queue. Speaker 200:33:21Thanks a lot. Operator00:33:25There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Bowman, I turn the call back over to you. Speaker 100:33:31Thank you, Elisa. We'll just wrap up By thanking everybody at Bowman for hard work, dedication, which turned in a good quarter. Looking forward to the same coming up in this quarter and next year. Thanks to all of our owners for the faith you show in us And looking forward to seeing everybody at upcoming conferences and we're about that time of year. Everybody have a good holiday till we talk to you again.Read morePowered by