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Earnings HistoryForecast CPI Card Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.33Consensus EPS $0.51Beat/MissMissed by -$0.18One Year Ago EPSN/ACPI Card Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$105.86 millionExpected Revenue$116.70 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$10.84 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACPI Card Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/7/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, November 7, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCPI Card Group's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by CPI Card Group Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to CPI Car Group's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Chris, and I'll be your operator today. If you're viewing on the webcast, you may advance the slides forward by pressing the arrow buttons. The call will be open for questions after the company's remarks. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike Salip, CPI's Head of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:28Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the CPI 3rd quarter 2023 earnings webcast and conference call. Today's date is November 7, 2023, and on the call today from CPI Card Our first question today are Scott Scheierman, President and Chief Executive Officer Jeff Hockstatt, Chief Financial Officer and John Lowe, Executive Vice President, End to End Payment Solutions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward looking statements as they are defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:04For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, please see CPI Card Group's most recent filings with the SEC. All forward looking statements made today reflect our current expectations only, We undertake no obligation to update any statements to reflect the events that occur after this call. Also, during the course of today's call, the company will be discussing 1 or more non GAAP financial measures, including, but not limited to EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, net leverage ratio and free cash Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the press release and slide presentation we issued this morning. Copies of today's press release as well as the presentation that accompanies this conference call are accessible on CPI's Investor Relations website, investor. Cpicardgroup.com. Speaker 100:01:50In addition, CPI's Form 10 Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023 will be available on CPI's Investor Relations website. On today's call, all growth rates refer to comparisons with the prior year period unless otherwise noted. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Scott Scheierman. Speaker 200:02:07Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. During today's call, I will give a brief business and strategic overview. John will discuss CPI's 3rd quarter performance And our updated outlook for the full year, and then Jeff will review the financial results in more detail before we open up the call for questions. We will start on Slide 4. As we stated in our Q2 earnings call, we expect the 3rd quarter results to be lower than prior year As customers remained cautious in their spending and continue to work down their inventory levels after stocking up in 2022 Due to the significant supply chain challenges across the industry last year, we are also facing very challenging comparisons with the prior year Q3 When net sales increased 25%. Speaker 200:02:54Given this backdrop, 3rd quarter sales this year declined 15%, Driven by a reduction in card volumes in our debit and credit segments and some timing impacts in prepaid. As we assess the rest of the year, We believe sales and adjusted EBITDA in the 4th quarter will be at similar levels as the 3rd quarter as it is taking longer than expected for customer spending to rebound And for our new sales initiatives to have an impact. Consequently, we now expect net sales as well as adjusted EBITDA decline in the mid single digits range for the year. The market for card production has certainly turned out to be more difficult That's expected in 2023, but if we step back and look at the bigger picture, we believe the overall card industry appears healthy. Most importantly, cards in circulation have continued to grow and large issuers have continued to report strength in their card programs, Which John will discuss more in a few minutes. Speaker 200:03:53Consequently, we remain confident in the long term health of the market and we believe we're well positioned for future With our innovative high quality products and services and strong customer focus. As one indicator of our belief in the business, This morning, we announced a $20,000,000 share repurchase program. We believe repurchasing shares is a great investment For our shareholders and this authorization will run through the end of 2024. Before turning the call over to John, I would like to highlight our ongoing strategic focus On Slide 5. As discussed, we believe the softness we are experiencing is temporary in nature. Speaker 200:04:32The strategies we have successfully employed to grow sales and gain market share since 2017 continue to be our cornerstone And we remain committed to having deep customer focus, market leading quality products and customer service, continuous innovation And a market competitive business model. Over the long term, we believe our market will return to solid growth and we believe we will gain share by focusing on the I would now like to turn the call over to John Moe to further discuss the current environment, our 3rd quarter results And our outlook for 2023. John? Speaker 300:05:09Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. I will start on Slide 6, Which is a good indicator of the overall health of the market. As Scott mentioned, payment cards issued to consumers continue to grow. The latest figures from Visa and Mastercard show cards in circulation in the U. S. Speaker 300:05:25Increased at a 10% CAGR for the 3 years ending June 30 And we're up 9% compared to the prior year quarter. Additionally, recent earnings reports from the big U. S. Banks also point to healthy card issuance And usage trends with consumers. As a few examples, Chase noted that cards outstanding increased 16% year over year in its 3rd quarter, Driven by strong account acquisition, Citi's new account acquisitions increased 5% and Wells Fargo's new account growth increased 22%. Speaker 300:05:58So the card issuance to consumer side of the market where banks and other issuers participate has been strong in 2023, But the production side where we participate has been relatively soft. However, if you look at our last 2 years together, CPI sales are more broadly in line with the issuance trends to consumers. Looking back at 2022, We delivered well above average growth with our debit and credit segment increasing 32% as customers had high demand for cards given the limited supply in the market. As the supply chain stabilized and lead times came down in 2023, in combination with economic uncertainty and banking industry stress, Customers have pulled back on ordering this year more than we expected and are targeting lower months of supply for their inventory, resulting in our updated outlook of a mid single digit sales decline for the year. Relative to 2021 though, This year's projected sales would still be about 20% higher than the 2021 levels and the combined 2 year trends would be more consistent with the ongoing growth in cards Issued to consumers. Speaker 300:07:03Long term, we believe growth in consumer issuance coupled with the recurring nature of the business In which the significant majority of card issuance relates to existing card replacement and the ongoing trends towards adoption of higher price contactless and eco focused cards Should support strong growth for the company. We don't know exactly when customer spending will normalize, but based on indications from our customers, we believe the market We will have more visibility and provide more color on our 2024 expectations when we release our 4th Let's return now to our Q3 results on Slide 7. I will provide a few high level And Jeff will go into more detail in a few minutes. For the quarter, debit and credit segment net sales declined 16% and prepaid segment sales declined 12%. The prepaid decline can be attributed to timing between quarters as we are only down slightly on a year to date basis and still expect the full year sales to be similar To or slightly above last year's levels. Speaker 300:08:08In the Debit and Credit segment, the decline was primarily driven by reductions in card volumes As customers continue to be cautious with spending and focused on working down inventory levels, card volumes declined across eco focused, Contactless and Contact Cars in the quarter, while services revenue increased slightly, driven by increases in processing fees due to a larger installation base in our CardOnce instant issuance business. Despite the sales decline, we have continued to win new business opportunities that should help us in the future, Not only with Secure Cards, but also in card personalization services, card of wants and prepaid. From a profitability standpoint, the sales decline in the 3rd quarter negatively impacted operating leverage in our results, Leading to net income and adjusted EBITDA margin declines despite reductions in operating expenses. As a result, 3rd quarter net income declined 68% and adjusted EBITDA declined 25% compared to the prior year period. For the 1st 9 months of the year, sales were down slightly with a 2% decline, while net income decreased 12% and adjusted EBITDA declined 1%. Speaker 300:09:19Slide 8 shows our revised outlook for the year. Based on recent customer feedback, we expect our overall 4th quarter sales levels We had previously expected improvement in the 4th quarter based on customer discussions and quoting activity in the summer, But that demand has not materialized as soon as expected. In addition, the various new sales initiatives we implemented after seeing the market softness earlier in the year Have taken longer to get results than we expected and consequently will have minimal impact on this year's results. We expect to see benefit however in 2024. This year's Q4 also has challenging comparisons as we posted net sales growth of 36% in last year's Q4. Speaker 300:10:05We expect declines in the debit and credit segment in the 4th quarter due to reduced card volumes, but we do expect prepaid sales to improve. The 4th quarter expectation translates into a full year outlook of mid single digit declines for both net sales and adjusted EBITDA. We now expect free cash flow to be approximately double the 2022 level and a year end net leverage ratio of approximately 3 times, Which would be consistent with the 2022 year end ratio. Although the overall 2023 outlook is below our expectations coming into the year, We believe we continue to have strong position in the U. S. Speaker 300:10:41Marketplace and should be able to quickly capitalize once customers resume normal purchasing patterns. I will now turn the call over to Jeff to review our Q3 and year to date results and outlook in more detail. Jeff? Speaker 400:10:55Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. I will begin my overview on Slide 10. Net sales decreased 15% in the quarter With debit and credit sales declining 16% and prepaid sales declining 12%. Within our debit and credit segment, as mentioned, The primary driver of the decline is reduced card sales. 3rd quarter gross profit decreased 25% The gross profit margin decreased from 38.9 percent to 34.1%. Speaker 400:11:25The lower sales levels Negatively affected margin due to the impact on fixed costs within cost of sales and margin was also impacted by higher material costs, Primarily chips, partially offset by lower freight costs. SG and A expenses, including depreciation and amortization, Declined by $1,800,000 in the quarter, primarily due to lower professional services costs. Compensation expenses decreased As lower employee short term incentive compensation offset $3,000,000 of accruals related to the previously announced executive retention awards And higher headcount and salaries. Our tax rate increased to 37.7% compared to 25.8% in the prior year quarter and brought our year to date rate to 30.5%. The increased tax rate expected for 2023 Primarily reflects limitations on deductibility of executive compensation related to the executive retention package. Speaker 400:12:27Net income in the 3rd quarter decreased 68 percent to $3,900,000 and adjusted EBITDA decreased 25% To $21,200,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin declined from 22.7% in the prior year to 20.1% due to the reduced sales levels and related lower gross margins. The net income decline also reflects the impact of the executive retention award accrual, Turning now to our year to date results on Slide 11. For the 1st 9 months of the year, net sales decreased 2% With the debit and credit segment down 2% and prepaid debit down 1%, debit and credit sales declines primarily reflect Lower eco focused card sales compared to very large orders in 2022, partially offset by increases in volumes of other contactless cards And growth in card personalization and card at once instant issuance solutions services. Pricing contributed approximately 3 percentage Gross profit margin decreasing from 36.7 percent to 35.1 percent driven by increased material costs, Partially offset by lower freight. Price increases benefited margin, but were largely offset by the negative impact of sales declines. Speaker 400:14:04Total SG and A expenses decreased by $2,800,000 in the 1st 9 months as reduced professional services expenses More than offset an increase in total compensation expense. Year to date net income decreased 12% to $21,300,000 And adjusted EBITDA decreased 1% to $69,600,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin increased slightly 20.2% in the prior year to 20.4% driven by reduced operating expenses. The net income decline also reflects The executive retention award and a higher tax rate, partially offset by lower interest expense. Turning now to our segments on Slide 12. I discussed the segment sales drivers earlier, so I will just discuss segment profitability on this slide. Speaker 400:14:55Income from operations for the debit and credit segment decreased 29% in the quarter to $20,800,000 and 4% for the 1st 9 months. Income declines in both periods Prepaid debit segment income from operations decreased 27% in the 3rd quarter to $6,600,000 driven by the sales decline and higher labor costs. Year to date income from operations was down 12% due to lower gross profit, which includes higher labor costs and the impact of costs incurred in the Q1 related to the labor conversion at our prepaid production facility, partially offset by lower operating expenses. Turning to the balance sheet, liquidity and cash flow on Slide 13. On a year to date basis, we generated $22,300,000 of cash flow from operating activities and invested $6,100,000 on capital expenditures, which resulted in free cash flow of $16,200,000 This compared to the free cash flow usage of $2,700,000 in the prior year period With the improvement driven by reduced working capital usage compared to last year's 1st 9 months. Speaker 400:16:13On the balance sheet at September 30, We had $10,500,000 of cash and $8,000,000 of borrowings outstanding on our $75,000,000 ABL revolver. We had $268,000,000 of senior secured notes outstanding at quarter end as we repurchased $2,000,000 of notes in the open market in the quarter, bringing our total to $17,000,000 year to date. Our net leverage ratio of 2.9 times at the end of the quarter compared ample liquidity, investing in the business, including possible strategic acquisitions, deleveraging the balance sheet and returning funds to stockholders. As Scott mentioned earlier, we are pleased to announce a $20,000,000 share repurchase program with the authorization expiring at the end of 2024. Despite the updated lower outlooks for full year net sales and adjusted EBITDA, we still expect to generate strong free cash flow improvement, driven by our focus on working capital in a more stable supply chain environment as well as tight management of discretionary spending and projects. Speaker 400:17:27I will now pass the call back to Scott for some closing remarks on Slide 14. Scott? Speaker 200:17:33Thanks, Jeff. And thanks to all of our employees for your hard work and dedication in serving our customers well. I would also like to welcome Revni Malella, Who is joining our Board of Directors as an independent member? Revi is Chief Financial Officer of National Mortgage Holdings Inc, And we look forward to the financial and business experience he will bring to our Board and Audit Committee. To summarize today's call, 2023 has turned out to be more challenging than we expected as economic uncertainties and banking industry stress I've contributed to customers being more cautious with their spending as well as more focused on working down inventory levels After the substantial purchases in 2022, although exact timing is not clear, we expect customer demand to improve over time And we continue to believe in the long term secular transfer payment cards and in our ability to gain share over the long term. Speaker 200:18:29We are pleased to put in place a $20,000,000 share repurchase program announced this morning and believe it will be beneficial for our shareholders. Thank you for joining our call today, and we'll now open up the call for any questions. Operator00:18:46Thank you. We'll now open the call for questions. First question is from Jaeson Schmidt with Lake Street. Your line is open. Speaker 500:18:58Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Just looking at the updated full year guidance, I'm just curious if you're seeing any cancellations or are these headwinds just mainly due to push outs? Speaker 600:19:11Hey, Jason. Good morning. It's Scott. Thank you for joining the call. I would say some of its push outs. Speaker 600:19:20For example, we've had a customer that's in the subprime that are tightening a bit. So there a bit of a cancellation there. But I would say largely, I think what's important is the secular trends are intact in our business. We operate in attractive and growing markets. As John mentioned on the call, the cards in circulation from Visa and Mastercard are growing at a 10 CAGR, we also are very much in a reoccurring business in that On average year in year out there's about over 600,000,000 cards produced. Speaker 600:19:56We think about on average 90% of those are reoccurring meaning it's a card reissuance, it's lost or it's stolen. So we feel good about the long term trends in the business. The secular tailwinds are there. Contactless cards continue to win in the marketplace. They're higher priced. Speaker 600:20:15Eco Focus Cards are out there for sure. Both banks and consumers want to be more environmentally sound. We're the market leader with over 100,000,000 since 2019. So I think what we're seeing is just a bit of a timing difference, temporary difference between Card issuance, card usage, cards are winning at the expense of cash for sure. The large issuers are continuing to grow that. Speaker 600:20:39The production market Just been softer than we expected with cards, cautious spending, some robust purchases in 2022 As a result of a tight supply chain, but clearly, we believe in the long term health of the business. We believe we have opportunities on a long term basis to continue to win share. And We announced a $20,000,000 share repurchase program, which represents over 10% of our market cap. So very much believe in the long term business, but again, let me have John. John spends more time with customers than I do, so he can give you some more color on as far as Push outs or cancellations of what we're seeing. Speaker 300:21:23Jason, good to talk to you this morning. And Scott covered most The only color I'd add is, in the example of customer where their credit tightening, where they're in the subprime space, Things like that are going to ebb and flow over time. But for the most part, if you take a large issuer as an example, They're kind of cutting back their spending in the current year, but they still have the same book of business. They're still growing their account base. We still feel good about our position from a share perspective. Speaker 300:21:55That's just one example. And we see that across our book of business. So We feel really, really good about where we're positioned in the market, continue to execute on our strategy, continue to hear good things from our customers. And I would say the only other thing is probably there is some delayed reissuances in the market. Our small to medium space, they're still cautious in their spending. Speaker 300:22:21So you definitely see some slowdowns that are continuing into Q4. But the overall card market as Scott said, right, you're growing at a 10% CAGR over the last 3 years. We saw a 9% growth quarter over quarter from Visa and Mastercard. So we still feel very strongly about the position we are in the market and the market itself growing at a decent CAGR. Speaker 500:22:44Okay. That's really helpful. And then just curious if you think the current environment coming out of the supply chain can Do you think it has any lasting impact on how customers handle their inventory levels? Speaker 300:23:02I'll take that one. I think if you go back to 2021, 2022 Operator00:23:09And there were Speaker 300:23:09a ton of industries that were impacted by this, right? The supply chain was tight. Our lead times were really long. The visibility in our business has come down as lead times have come down. But what I would say is we're getting back to more Historical times, our lead times are a little bit tighter than history. Speaker 300:23:28But we don't necessarily see whether it's the large banks, the small to medium banks Changing their broader historical patterns, I think what we see is they built up inventory over the last year and a half And they're starting to normalize that, optimize that back down to what I would say normal course patterns. But what we don't see is Banks in general taking on more risk where they're only going to hold a really, really small amount of inventory and risk not issuing a card to one of their consumers. That Their goal at the end of the day is to be top of wallet in everything they do and so they will hold the right amount of cards to make sure they always meet their customers' needs. Speaker 500:24:07Okay. Appreciate that color. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks guys. Speaker 200:24:12Thanks. Thanks, Jason. Operator00:24:18The next question is from Hal Ghosh with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 700:24:25Hey, good morning guys. Stay on this topic, 2022 was a very, very big growth year. I mean, it was up 27%. And If you look at maybe your guidance for the full year now, it looks like over a 2 year basis, the revenues are going to be up about 20%. And if the card market is growing Roughly what you said kind of the least high single digit. Speaker 700:24:49My question is like How much inventory in the channel was there that needs to be drawn down? Is it can you help us figure out how long this is Going to take because it would seem that if the look at on a 2 year basis now, you exit the year kind of where we think you're going to exit at, it would seem like The consumption over maybe a 2 year period was pretty much in line and like inventories maybe kind of get right sized by Q1, but like Wanted to get your thoughts on that and also wanted to get your thoughts on like How can we anticipate not getting that kind of channel fill pretty stopped wrong again? Thank you. Speaker 300:25:36Yes. Hal, John again. You're right. If you look at the 2 year period, right, the growth in 'twenty two and then Take that over 2022, 2023 compare that to the overall market. Things are more in line. Speaker 300:25:50From a standpoint of when Inventory will fully normalize. Right now based upon what we're seeing, lead times still continue to be low. Our customers, I think are continuing to optimize. That said, I think we're going to give a lot more guidance In early next year, I don't think we could sit here today and tell you exactly when it will fully normalize and the production market matches up to The card issuance market. But we still feel strong about where we are, and your analysis is spot on. Speaker 300:26:23That's exactly the way we've thought about it, Except for exactly when it will come back. I will say that banks in general, if you go back to where we were in August, they are carrying less months of Supply and we expected, but that can't go to 0, right? You think of the $2,000,000,000 card circulation, the $600,000,000 to $700,000,000 that are produced every year, Cards are turning over in everyone's wallets roughly every 3 years regardless of what the expiration date is. So, we feel It's going to the market overall will gradually improve over the course of 2024, but we'll give more guidance in early next year. Speaker 700:27:01Great. Thank you. 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Email Address About CPI Card GroupCPI Card Group (NASDAQ:PMTS), together with its subsidiaries, engages in the design, production, data personalization, packaging, and fulfillment of financial payment cards. It operates through Debit and Credit, and Prepaid Debit segments. The Debit and Credit segment produces financial payment cards and provides integrated card services to card-issuing financial institutions. Its products include Europay, Mastercard, and Visa (EMV) and non-EMV financial payment cards, including contact and contactless cards, plastic and encased metal cards, and Second Wave payment cards, as well as private label credit cards. This segment also provides on-demand services and various integrated card services, including card personalization and fulfillment, as well as instant issuance services. The Prepaid Debit segment primarily offers integrated card services comprising tamper-evident security packaging services to prepaid debit card providers. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to CPI Car Group's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Chris, and I'll be your operator today. If you're viewing on the webcast, you may advance the slides forward by pressing the arrow buttons. The call will be open for questions after the company's remarks. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike Salip, CPI's Head of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:28Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the CPI 3rd quarter 2023 earnings webcast and conference call. Today's date is November 7, 2023, and on the call today from CPI Card Our first question today are Scott Scheierman, President and Chief Executive Officer Jeff Hockstatt, Chief Financial Officer and John Lowe, Executive Vice President, End to End Payment Solutions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward looking statements as they are defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:04For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, please see CPI Card Group's most recent filings with the SEC. All forward looking statements made today reflect our current expectations only, We undertake no obligation to update any statements to reflect the events that occur after this call. Also, during the course of today's call, the company will be discussing 1 or more non GAAP financial measures, including, but not limited to EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, net leverage ratio and free cash Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the press release and slide presentation we issued this morning. Copies of today's press release as well as the presentation that accompanies this conference call are accessible on CPI's Investor Relations website, investor. Cpicardgroup.com. Speaker 100:01:50In addition, CPI's Form 10 Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023 will be available on CPI's Investor Relations website. On today's call, all growth rates refer to comparisons with the prior year period unless otherwise noted. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Scott Scheierman. Speaker 200:02:07Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. During today's call, I will give a brief business and strategic overview. John will discuss CPI's 3rd quarter performance And our updated outlook for the full year, and then Jeff will review the financial results in more detail before we open up the call for questions. We will start on Slide 4. As we stated in our Q2 earnings call, we expect the 3rd quarter results to be lower than prior year As customers remained cautious in their spending and continue to work down their inventory levels after stocking up in 2022 Due to the significant supply chain challenges across the industry last year, we are also facing very challenging comparisons with the prior year Q3 When net sales increased 25%. Speaker 200:02:54Given this backdrop, 3rd quarter sales this year declined 15%, Driven by a reduction in card volumes in our debit and credit segments and some timing impacts in prepaid. As we assess the rest of the year, We believe sales and adjusted EBITDA in the 4th quarter will be at similar levels as the 3rd quarter as it is taking longer than expected for customer spending to rebound And for our new sales initiatives to have an impact. Consequently, we now expect net sales as well as adjusted EBITDA decline in the mid single digits range for the year. The market for card production has certainly turned out to be more difficult That's expected in 2023, but if we step back and look at the bigger picture, we believe the overall card industry appears healthy. Most importantly, cards in circulation have continued to grow and large issuers have continued to report strength in their card programs, Which John will discuss more in a few minutes. Speaker 200:03:53Consequently, we remain confident in the long term health of the market and we believe we're well positioned for future With our innovative high quality products and services and strong customer focus. As one indicator of our belief in the business, This morning, we announced a $20,000,000 share repurchase program. We believe repurchasing shares is a great investment For our shareholders and this authorization will run through the end of 2024. Before turning the call over to John, I would like to highlight our ongoing strategic focus On Slide 5. As discussed, we believe the softness we are experiencing is temporary in nature. Speaker 200:04:32The strategies we have successfully employed to grow sales and gain market share since 2017 continue to be our cornerstone And we remain committed to having deep customer focus, market leading quality products and customer service, continuous innovation And a market competitive business model. Over the long term, we believe our market will return to solid growth and we believe we will gain share by focusing on the I would now like to turn the call over to John Moe to further discuss the current environment, our 3rd quarter results And our outlook for 2023. John? Speaker 300:05:09Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. I will start on Slide 6, Which is a good indicator of the overall health of the market. As Scott mentioned, payment cards issued to consumers continue to grow. The latest figures from Visa and Mastercard show cards in circulation in the U. S. Speaker 300:05:25Increased at a 10% CAGR for the 3 years ending June 30 And we're up 9% compared to the prior year quarter. Additionally, recent earnings reports from the big U. S. Banks also point to healthy card issuance And usage trends with consumers. As a few examples, Chase noted that cards outstanding increased 16% year over year in its 3rd quarter, Driven by strong account acquisition, Citi's new account acquisitions increased 5% and Wells Fargo's new account growth increased 22%. Speaker 300:05:58So the card issuance to consumer side of the market where banks and other issuers participate has been strong in 2023, But the production side where we participate has been relatively soft. However, if you look at our last 2 years together, CPI sales are more broadly in line with the issuance trends to consumers. Looking back at 2022, We delivered well above average growth with our debit and credit segment increasing 32% as customers had high demand for cards given the limited supply in the market. As the supply chain stabilized and lead times came down in 2023, in combination with economic uncertainty and banking industry stress, Customers have pulled back on ordering this year more than we expected and are targeting lower months of supply for their inventory, resulting in our updated outlook of a mid single digit sales decline for the year. Relative to 2021 though, This year's projected sales would still be about 20% higher than the 2021 levels and the combined 2 year trends would be more consistent with the ongoing growth in cards Issued to consumers. Speaker 300:07:03Long term, we believe growth in consumer issuance coupled with the recurring nature of the business In which the significant majority of card issuance relates to existing card replacement and the ongoing trends towards adoption of higher price contactless and eco focused cards Should support strong growth for the company. We don't know exactly when customer spending will normalize, but based on indications from our customers, we believe the market We will have more visibility and provide more color on our 2024 expectations when we release our 4th Let's return now to our Q3 results on Slide 7. I will provide a few high level And Jeff will go into more detail in a few minutes. For the quarter, debit and credit segment net sales declined 16% and prepaid segment sales declined 12%. The prepaid decline can be attributed to timing between quarters as we are only down slightly on a year to date basis and still expect the full year sales to be similar To or slightly above last year's levels. Speaker 300:08:08In the Debit and Credit segment, the decline was primarily driven by reductions in card volumes As customers continue to be cautious with spending and focused on working down inventory levels, card volumes declined across eco focused, Contactless and Contact Cars in the quarter, while services revenue increased slightly, driven by increases in processing fees due to a larger installation base in our CardOnce instant issuance business. Despite the sales decline, we have continued to win new business opportunities that should help us in the future, Not only with Secure Cards, but also in card personalization services, card of wants and prepaid. From a profitability standpoint, the sales decline in the 3rd quarter negatively impacted operating leverage in our results, Leading to net income and adjusted EBITDA margin declines despite reductions in operating expenses. As a result, 3rd quarter net income declined 68% and adjusted EBITDA declined 25% compared to the prior year period. For the 1st 9 months of the year, sales were down slightly with a 2% decline, while net income decreased 12% and adjusted EBITDA declined 1%. Speaker 300:09:19Slide 8 shows our revised outlook for the year. Based on recent customer feedback, we expect our overall 4th quarter sales levels We had previously expected improvement in the 4th quarter based on customer discussions and quoting activity in the summer, But that demand has not materialized as soon as expected. In addition, the various new sales initiatives we implemented after seeing the market softness earlier in the year Have taken longer to get results than we expected and consequently will have minimal impact on this year's results. We expect to see benefit however in 2024. This year's Q4 also has challenging comparisons as we posted net sales growth of 36% in last year's Q4. Speaker 300:10:05We expect declines in the debit and credit segment in the 4th quarter due to reduced card volumes, but we do expect prepaid sales to improve. The 4th quarter expectation translates into a full year outlook of mid single digit declines for both net sales and adjusted EBITDA. We now expect free cash flow to be approximately double the 2022 level and a year end net leverage ratio of approximately 3 times, Which would be consistent with the 2022 year end ratio. Although the overall 2023 outlook is below our expectations coming into the year, We believe we continue to have strong position in the U. S. Speaker 300:10:41Marketplace and should be able to quickly capitalize once customers resume normal purchasing patterns. I will now turn the call over to Jeff to review our Q3 and year to date results and outlook in more detail. Jeff? Speaker 400:10:55Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. I will begin my overview on Slide 10. Net sales decreased 15% in the quarter With debit and credit sales declining 16% and prepaid sales declining 12%. Within our debit and credit segment, as mentioned, The primary driver of the decline is reduced card sales. 3rd quarter gross profit decreased 25% The gross profit margin decreased from 38.9 percent to 34.1%. Speaker 400:11:25The lower sales levels Negatively affected margin due to the impact on fixed costs within cost of sales and margin was also impacted by higher material costs, Primarily chips, partially offset by lower freight costs. SG and A expenses, including depreciation and amortization, Declined by $1,800,000 in the quarter, primarily due to lower professional services costs. Compensation expenses decreased As lower employee short term incentive compensation offset $3,000,000 of accruals related to the previously announced executive retention awards And higher headcount and salaries. Our tax rate increased to 37.7% compared to 25.8% in the prior year quarter and brought our year to date rate to 30.5%. The increased tax rate expected for 2023 Primarily reflects limitations on deductibility of executive compensation related to the executive retention package. Speaker 400:12:27Net income in the 3rd quarter decreased 68 percent to $3,900,000 and adjusted EBITDA decreased 25% To $21,200,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin declined from 22.7% in the prior year to 20.1% due to the reduced sales levels and related lower gross margins. The net income decline also reflects the impact of the executive retention award accrual, Turning now to our year to date results on Slide 11. For the 1st 9 months of the year, net sales decreased 2% With the debit and credit segment down 2% and prepaid debit down 1%, debit and credit sales declines primarily reflect Lower eco focused card sales compared to very large orders in 2022, partially offset by increases in volumes of other contactless cards And growth in card personalization and card at once instant issuance solutions services. Pricing contributed approximately 3 percentage Gross profit margin decreasing from 36.7 percent to 35.1 percent driven by increased material costs, Partially offset by lower freight. Price increases benefited margin, but were largely offset by the negative impact of sales declines. Speaker 400:14:04Total SG and A expenses decreased by $2,800,000 in the 1st 9 months as reduced professional services expenses More than offset an increase in total compensation expense. Year to date net income decreased 12% to $21,300,000 And adjusted EBITDA decreased 1% to $69,600,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin increased slightly 20.2% in the prior year to 20.4% driven by reduced operating expenses. The net income decline also reflects The executive retention award and a higher tax rate, partially offset by lower interest expense. Turning now to our segments on Slide 12. I discussed the segment sales drivers earlier, so I will just discuss segment profitability on this slide. Speaker 400:14:55Income from operations for the debit and credit segment decreased 29% in the quarter to $20,800,000 and 4% for the 1st 9 months. Income declines in both periods Prepaid debit segment income from operations decreased 27% in the 3rd quarter to $6,600,000 driven by the sales decline and higher labor costs. Year to date income from operations was down 12% due to lower gross profit, which includes higher labor costs and the impact of costs incurred in the Q1 related to the labor conversion at our prepaid production facility, partially offset by lower operating expenses. Turning to the balance sheet, liquidity and cash flow on Slide 13. On a year to date basis, we generated $22,300,000 of cash flow from operating activities and invested $6,100,000 on capital expenditures, which resulted in free cash flow of $16,200,000 This compared to the free cash flow usage of $2,700,000 in the prior year period With the improvement driven by reduced working capital usage compared to last year's 1st 9 months. Speaker 400:16:13On the balance sheet at September 30, We had $10,500,000 of cash and $8,000,000 of borrowings outstanding on our $75,000,000 ABL revolver. We had $268,000,000 of senior secured notes outstanding at quarter end as we repurchased $2,000,000 of notes in the open market in the quarter, bringing our total to $17,000,000 year to date. Our net leverage ratio of 2.9 times at the end of the quarter compared ample liquidity, investing in the business, including possible strategic acquisitions, deleveraging the balance sheet and returning funds to stockholders. As Scott mentioned earlier, we are pleased to announce a $20,000,000 share repurchase program with the authorization expiring at the end of 2024. Despite the updated lower outlooks for full year net sales and adjusted EBITDA, we still expect to generate strong free cash flow improvement, driven by our focus on working capital in a more stable supply chain environment as well as tight management of discretionary spending and projects. Speaker 400:17:27I will now pass the call back to Scott for some closing remarks on Slide 14. Scott? Speaker 200:17:33Thanks, Jeff. And thanks to all of our employees for your hard work and dedication in serving our customers well. I would also like to welcome Revni Malella, Who is joining our Board of Directors as an independent member? Revi is Chief Financial Officer of National Mortgage Holdings Inc, And we look forward to the financial and business experience he will bring to our Board and Audit Committee. To summarize today's call, 2023 has turned out to be more challenging than we expected as economic uncertainties and banking industry stress I've contributed to customers being more cautious with their spending as well as more focused on working down inventory levels After the substantial purchases in 2022, although exact timing is not clear, we expect customer demand to improve over time And we continue to believe in the long term secular transfer payment cards and in our ability to gain share over the long term. Speaker 200:18:29We are pleased to put in place a $20,000,000 share repurchase program announced this morning and believe it will be beneficial for our shareholders. Thank you for joining our call today, and we'll now open up the call for any questions. Operator00:18:46Thank you. We'll now open the call for questions. First question is from Jaeson Schmidt with Lake Street. Your line is open. Speaker 500:18:58Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Just looking at the updated full year guidance, I'm just curious if you're seeing any cancellations or are these headwinds just mainly due to push outs? Speaker 600:19:11Hey, Jason. Good morning. It's Scott. Thank you for joining the call. I would say some of its push outs. Speaker 600:19:20For example, we've had a customer that's in the subprime that are tightening a bit. So there a bit of a cancellation there. But I would say largely, I think what's important is the secular trends are intact in our business. We operate in attractive and growing markets. As John mentioned on the call, the cards in circulation from Visa and Mastercard are growing at a 10 CAGR, we also are very much in a reoccurring business in that On average year in year out there's about over 600,000,000 cards produced. Speaker 600:19:56We think about on average 90% of those are reoccurring meaning it's a card reissuance, it's lost or it's stolen. So we feel good about the long term trends in the business. The secular tailwinds are there. Contactless cards continue to win in the marketplace. They're higher priced. Speaker 600:20:15Eco Focus Cards are out there for sure. Both banks and consumers want to be more environmentally sound. We're the market leader with over 100,000,000 since 2019. So I think what we're seeing is just a bit of a timing difference, temporary difference between Card issuance, card usage, cards are winning at the expense of cash for sure. The large issuers are continuing to grow that. Speaker 600:20:39The production market Just been softer than we expected with cards, cautious spending, some robust purchases in 2022 As a result of a tight supply chain, but clearly, we believe in the long term health of the business. We believe we have opportunities on a long term basis to continue to win share. And We announced a $20,000,000 share repurchase program, which represents over 10% of our market cap. So very much believe in the long term business, but again, let me have John. John spends more time with customers than I do, so he can give you some more color on as far as Push outs or cancellations of what we're seeing. Speaker 300:21:23Jason, good to talk to you this morning. And Scott covered most The only color I'd add is, in the example of customer where their credit tightening, where they're in the subprime space, Things like that are going to ebb and flow over time. But for the most part, if you take a large issuer as an example, They're kind of cutting back their spending in the current year, but they still have the same book of business. They're still growing their account base. We still feel good about our position from a share perspective. Speaker 300:21:55That's just one example. And we see that across our book of business. So We feel really, really good about where we're positioned in the market, continue to execute on our strategy, continue to hear good things from our customers. And I would say the only other thing is probably there is some delayed reissuances in the market. Our small to medium space, they're still cautious in their spending. Speaker 300:22:21So you definitely see some slowdowns that are continuing into Q4. But the overall card market as Scott said, right, you're growing at a 10% CAGR over the last 3 years. We saw a 9% growth quarter over quarter from Visa and Mastercard. So we still feel very strongly about the position we are in the market and the market itself growing at a decent CAGR. Speaker 500:22:44Okay. That's really helpful. And then just curious if you think the current environment coming out of the supply chain can Do you think it has any lasting impact on how customers handle their inventory levels? Speaker 300:23:02I'll take that one. I think if you go back to 2021, 2022 Operator00:23:09And there were Speaker 300:23:09a ton of industries that were impacted by this, right? The supply chain was tight. Our lead times were really long. The visibility in our business has come down as lead times have come down. But what I would say is we're getting back to more Historical times, our lead times are a little bit tighter than history. Speaker 300:23:28But we don't necessarily see whether it's the large banks, the small to medium banks Changing their broader historical patterns, I think what we see is they built up inventory over the last year and a half And they're starting to normalize that, optimize that back down to what I would say normal course patterns. But what we don't see is Banks in general taking on more risk where they're only going to hold a really, really small amount of inventory and risk not issuing a card to one of their consumers. That Their goal at the end of the day is to be top of wallet in everything they do and so they will hold the right amount of cards to make sure they always meet their customers' needs. Speaker 500:24:07Okay. Appreciate that color. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks guys. Speaker 200:24:12Thanks. Thanks, Jason. Operator00:24:18The next question is from Hal Ghosh with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 700:24:25Hey, good morning guys. Stay on this topic, 2022 was a very, very big growth year. I mean, it was up 27%. And If you look at maybe your guidance for the full year now, it looks like over a 2 year basis, the revenues are going to be up about 20%. And if the card market is growing Roughly what you said kind of the least high single digit. Speaker 700:24:49My question is like How much inventory in the channel was there that needs to be drawn down? Is it can you help us figure out how long this is Going to take because it would seem that if the look at on a 2 year basis now, you exit the year kind of where we think you're going to exit at, it would seem like The consumption over maybe a 2 year period was pretty much in line and like inventories maybe kind of get right sized by Q1, but like Wanted to get your thoughts on that and also wanted to get your thoughts on like How can we anticipate not getting that kind of channel fill pretty stopped wrong again? Thank you. Speaker 300:25:36Yes. Hal, John again. You're right. If you look at the 2 year period, right, the growth in 'twenty two and then Take that over 2022, 2023 compare that to the overall market. Things are more in line. Speaker 300:25:50From a standpoint of when Inventory will fully normalize. Right now based upon what we're seeing, lead times still continue to be low. Our customers, I think are continuing to optimize. That said, I think we're going to give a lot more guidance In early next year, I don't think we could sit here today and tell you exactly when it will fully normalize and the production market matches up to The card issuance market. But we still feel strong about where we are, and your analysis is spot on. Speaker 300:26:23That's exactly the way we've thought about it, Except for exactly when it will come back. I will say that banks in general, if you go back to where we were in August, they are carrying less months of Supply and we expected, but that can't go to 0, right? You think of the $2,000,000,000 card circulation, the $600,000,000 to $700,000,000 that are produced every year, Cards are turning over in everyone's wallets roughly every 3 years regardless of what the expiration date is. So, we feel It's going to the market overall will gradually improve over the course of 2024, but we'll give more guidance in early next year. Speaker 700:27:01Great. Thank you. Operator00:27:06There are no further questions at this time. And this will conclude today's CPI Car Group 3rd quarter 2023 earnings call. Thank you for joining, and have a good day.Read morePowered by