scPharmaceuticals Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 8, 2023

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the SC Pharmaceuticals Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to PJ Kelleher, LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Before turning the call over to management, I would like to make the following remarks concerning forward looking statements. All statements on this conference call other than historical facts are forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, Including, but not limited to, statements regarding SC Pharmaceuticals' expected future financial results and management's expectations and plans for the business in Pharosix. The words anticipate, believe, estimate, expect, intend, guidance, confidence, target, project and other similar expressions are typically used to identify such forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and may involve and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and other important factors that may affect Etsy Pharmaceuticals business, financial condition and other operating results.

Speaker 1

These include, but are not limited to, the risk factors and other qualifications contained in with the SEC to which your attention is directed. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. Any forward looking statements made in this conference call, including responses to your questions, are based on current expectations as of today, And SP Pharmaceuticals expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward looking statements except as required by law. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. John Tucker, Chief Executive Officer of ST Pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 1

John?

Speaker 2

Thank you, PJ, and thank you to everyone listening to this afternoon's call and webcast to review our Q3 2023 results. This afternoon, I'm pleased to provide an operational update before turning the call over to Steve Parsons, our Senior Vice President of Commercial For a more detailed update on the Pharosix launch and then Rachel Notes, our Chief Financial Officer, for a review of our financials. We will then open the call for your questions. The Q3 of 2023 represents our 2nd full quarter of Pharosix commercial availability As we launched the product in late February, demand has continued to grow reflected in our key indicators, including number of prescriptions, Number of total prescribers and doses filled per prescription. Forosix is meeting the needs of heart failure patients suffering from fluid overload.

Speaker 2

We believe specialists are quickly gaining comfort prescribing it. The 3rd quarter, we reported net revenue of $3,800,000 representing a sequential increase of 138 percent from $1,600,000 for the Q2 of 2023. This was driven predominantly by units shipped to patients through our specialty pharmacy network. Also captured in our net sales for the first time The direct sales of Pharosix to multiple integrated delivery networks. As we mentioned last quarter, as sales to IDNs increase, We will be reassessing the KPIs that we report.

Speaker 2

Inventory levels at the end of the 3rd quarter were consistent with the inventory levels at the end of the second quarter. Our gross to net discount from launch to the end of Q3 is running at approximately 21%, down from 23% through the end of Q2. We expect this to increase over time as contracting with payers evolves. In response to positive demand trends, we added an additional 12 sales territories towards the end of the 3rd quarter. This brings our current field sales force to 66 territories and we anticipate seeing the positive impact of these additions beginning in the Q4.

Speaker 2

Shifting now to payers, we continue to have productive discussions with commercial, Medicare Part D and Medicaid payers And a continuing effort to make Pharosix broadly available to patients at the most favorable terms possible. Indicative of our progress, in late October, We reached an agreement with 1 of the largest closed integrated delivery networks in the U. S. Providing unrestricted access to Pharosix without prior authorization to over 8,000,000 lives at a fixed co pay ranging from $16 to $75 per prescription. Also as of November 1, Pharosix has added on formulary as a preferred brand with one of the largest government retiree payer formularies, Increasing the number of lives with preferred access to Pharosix by an additional 1,100,000 lives.

Speaker 2

These payer decisions And the population of heart failure patients who have access to cirrhosis and moves us towards our previously stated goal of having 75% or more Heart failure patients nationally with fixed co pays of $100 or less. We anticipate that this could positively impact Pharosix co pays as early as the Q4. We are progressing with many other health plans and we hope to have several more announcements like these in the months to come. Staying on the topic of payers for a moment, recall that we announced national Medicaid coverage for Ferosix effective July 1. We have since added an additional specialty pharmacy to our network to maximize access to 406 in these states that require a waiver So we can address the needs of Medicaid heart failure patients as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Speaker 2

Turning now to our lifecycle management initiatives. During the Q3, we received FDA feedback on 3 key initiatives that we view as critical to our long term growth strategy. In August, we announced favorable Type C meeting feedback from the FDA regarding the potential expansion of the Pharosix indication to allow for use in New York Heart Association Class 4 heart failure patients. VERO-six is currently indicated for the treatment of congestion due to fluid overload in adult patients with New York Heart Association Class II and Class III chronic heart failure. We estimate that as many as 10% of all Heart failure patients are Class 4 and a meaningful percentage of these as many as 40% may benefit from cirrhosis.

Speaker 2

If we are successful, Class 4 represent a meaningful expansion of our market opportunity to enable Pharosix to be prescribed to the most severe heart failure patients. Based upon the feedback that we received from the agency, we filed for the Class 4 indication in early October. More recently, we received Type C feedback from the FDA pertaining to the development of an 80 milligram by 1 ml Auto injector intended to provide an additional option to the OnBody Infuser for treatment of congestion due to fluid overload Ineligible adult patients who do not require hospitalization. We believe that an auto injector is successfully developed and approved We reduced manufacturing costs compared to the current on body of fuser and confirm environmental advantages. We plan to report data from a pivotal PK And if successful, we are targeting the submission of a supplemental new drug application to the FDA by the end of 2024.

Speaker 2

Finally, we announced feedback from a Type D meeting with the FDA pertaining to the potential expansion of the Pharosix indication to include treatment of edema due to fluid overload in patients with chronic kidney disease or CKD. In its feedback, the FDA confirmed that no additional clinical studies are needed to expand the indication provided that we can demonstrate an adequate PK And pharmacodynamic bridge is a listed drug, which is furosemide injection 10 mg per ml. CKD is a progressive disease characterized by worsening renal function over time, resulting in frequent episodes of fluid overload that are treated with loop diuretics. It is estimated that 12000000 to 15000000 Americans are aware that they have kidney disease And 50% of patients with CKD do not have a diagnosis of heart failure. With fluid overload being one of the most common complications in CKD, which worsens with disease progression.

Speaker 2

We believe Pharosix to be beneficial to patients with CKD who have worsening symptoms due to fluid overload and are not responding to oral diuretics. Plan to advance furosix as we work towards our goal of introducing a new treatment option for CKD patients with edema as efficiently as possible. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Senior Vice President of Commercial, Steve Parsons for a deeper dive into our launch metrics. Dave?

Speaker 3

Thank you, John. As John indicated, the 3rd quarter was our 2nd full quarter of Furosik's commercial availability and we are pleased with our progress. Our results continue to be very encouraging in Q3. From launch through September 30, we've had 11 19 unique prescribers, almost doubling from the 631 acquired through June 30. During the Q3, we had 15.79 total prescriptions written and 877 of those prescriptions have already been filled.

Speaker 3

There were another 442 They were still pending as Q3 ended. Pending prescriptions are not canceled. They are still in process with the payers. Some are approved and waiting in a queue, while others are in prior authorization. We continue to fill more pending prescriptions written in Q3 into the field category every day.

Speaker 3

There are some prescriptions that get canceled for various reasons, including unreachable patients Who are hard to contact, have been hospitalized or a small number that are now deceased. Of those that are reached to cancel, A high co pay is the main reason given. In Q3, the percent of furosix prescriptions filled increased to 55% from 52% in Q2. We anticipate that the fill rate will continue to increase As Helrosix is expected to become better positioned on more health plan formularies, lowering patients' out of pocket costs and providing quicker coverage decisions. During the Q3, the average number of doses per prescription filled was 5.6, which remains higher than our long term expectations.

Speaker 3

Our sales force conducted 1806 in services As of September 30 compared to 11.29 as of June 30, in service provides important training to offices on the prescribing process for furosix and this ensures office readiness. As we open more new accounts, the execution of in services remains fundamental to Furosa's success. We've said previously that we stand ready to add additional territories as demand warrants and we did so at the very end of Q3. We added 12 territories bringing our total field force as of today to 66 territories. It's important to note that the territories we added during Q3 were added towards the end of the quarter and as such did not contribute meaningfully to Q3 results.

Speaker 3

The new sales representatives are now trained and conducting face to face selling in cardiology offices. From a marketing perspective, we are engaged in a broad multi channel marketing campaign to drive brand awareness, adoption and commitment. This program encompasses many different activities, but some of the key ongoing activities include engagement and development of key opinion leaders, Cardiology conference presence, print and electronic collateral and the development of both provider and patient websites among other critical tasks. We've also begun reaching out to heart failure patients and their caregivers with patient education materials for furosus. Overall, we are very pleased with our continued progress and the path that we are on.

Speaker 3

That concludes my update. I would like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Rachel Noakes for our financial update. Rachel?

Speaker 4

Thank you, Steve. We generated net product revenue of $3,800,000 during the Q3 of 2023 And the cost of revenue was $1,100,000 yielding a gross profit of $2,700,000 Research and development expenses were $3,400,000 for the Q3 of 2023 compared to $3,700,000 for the Q3 of 2022. The decrease in research and development expenses for the quarter ended September 30, 2023 was primarily due to a decrease in employee related costs in clinical study and medical affairs costs. The decrease was partially offset by an increase in device and pharmaceutical development costs. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $14,100,000 for the Q3 of 2023 compared to $6,300,000 for the Q3 of 2022.

Speaker 4

The increase in selling, general and administrative expenses for the quarter ended September 30, 2023 was primarily due to an increase in employee related costs and commercial costs. We reported a net loss of $15,600,000 We ended the Q3 of 2023 with $90,200,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments compared to $118,400,000 as of December 31, 2022. Finally, as of September 30, 2023, SC Pharmaceuticals' total shares outstanding were 35,000,000 That concludes the financial update. John?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Rachel. This concludes our prepared remarks. At this point, we will open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Roanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, good afternoon. This is Kashik on for Roana. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe first from us, could you discuss Or talk a little bit about how we should think about the size and frequency of potential direct purchase agreements that could come from IDNs in the future and I guess to what extent could the IDNs drive broader prescribing of FURO6 going forward? I have a quick follow-up.

Speaker 2

Sure. This is John. I'll let Steve talk too. Yes, so in this last quarter Q3, we did have direct This is from IDN, didn't represent that much. Most of it was still going through our specialty pharmacy.

Speaker 2

We did Sign up with the largest IDN, here at the end of the quarter, and we anticipate that's going to be a meaningful Part of our business. Now keep in mind, we have in our internal forecast have Taking into account that we would receive that business. So, but I do think it's going to, especially starting this quarter and Really into next year be a meaningful part of the total revenue. And as I think we've said and we tried to articulate again, We can't see scripts or units per script. We sell that net to them, to their warehouse and they'll distribute it to their hospitals throughout the country.

Speaker 2

So, but we do think it was

Speaker 5

Helpful. Thanks. And it's John. And then just a quick follow-up on the sales reps. So I guess Hal, you mentioned you added 12 territories in the quarter.

Speaker 5

How are you thinking about future sales rep additions going forward into 2024? How might this flow through Assurant's sales?

Speaker 2

Yes. So we Again, we added another 12 reps at the end of the quarter that are just really hitting the field a little bit last month. We've said all along that we plan to get to around 110 reps. So we haven't Articulated yet when we'll make the next expansion, but it will be next year, probably in the first half of next year That we do another increase. I think we want to absorb these, make sure we're still Thinking of territories the right way, size of territories, the balance of cutting in territory that's A little big versus going into wide areas.

Speaker 2

So we're going to stay opportunistic, but I think you'd see more sales reps sitting in the ground in the first half of next year.

Operator

The next question comes from Douglas Tsao with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon and congrats on the progress. I guess, maybe as a starting point, The units per script has continued to go up and I think it's considerably not considerably higher than What you anticipated? I think we had ahead of launch talked about 4 units per course of treatment and it sounds like docs Or maybe going with a little bit more, I'm just curious if there's any color in terms of what's been driving that? I mean even since the launch, it's continued to sort of increase.

Speaker 2

Hey, Doug, it's John. I'll let Steve handle that one.

Speaker 3

Yes. So What we think is driving it is there aren't quantity limits. So the doctors are trying to optimize the number of doses that they can get for patients. Also the mix of our patients right now is more in the preventative pre admission where there's more fluid to get off and if there was a higher A proportion that were being discharged after already being treated, they might not need as many doses if they got into trouble again. We think it may Continue to increase incrementally in the short run, but we also think it will moderate down back into the 4 to 5 dose range As quantity limits or utilization management are required by some of the payers.

Speaker 3

Like for example, There's a few Medicaid states right now where they have a client limit of 4 doses. UnitedHealthcare Commercial Which we announced last quarter, they have a client limit of 4 doses per Rx. Now they can write another prescription in the same month, but Per Rx, 4 doses. So we think it might come down

Speaker 5

a little bit over time.

Speaker 2

And I think we're also seeing the usage in The pre admission stage where I think you're going to see more a higher script level. The other thing I think if you look at Doug, if you look at our GTN, at 21%, which is great, it's a bit of a double edged sword Because we're not paying rebates to some of the plans that want rebate, But we do anticipate soon we'll come on formulary with a number of those and that will drive that GTN up. Obviously lower co pays, Improve adjudication time, make more access to more patients, but also probably have a shrinking effect On the number of units per script, but I think our thinking now is a little different. We think it moderates, but still stays in the 4.5 To 5 range, where I think our guidance previously a bit 4. We're just seeing doctors be a little more aggressive treating patients than we originally had anticipated.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. That's really helpful color. And then just in terms of how the IDNs plan to use the product, Is it going to be different than sort of the individual physicians and heart failure clinics?

Speaker 3

Yes. Since an IDN is responsible for medical costs and drug costs, they take the whole burden. For them, it makes sense to use it anywhere they can to reduce the length of stay to Prevent the hospitalization in the first place. So they'll have ability to use it everywhere and anywhere they want right away Unlike in the rest of the world where you have to write a prescription and you have to do the prior auth, These guys they own everything. So if they want to discharge early to finish the job at home, they're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 2

I think that's one thing Doug, we've heard a little bit more than we maybe initially anticipated for doctors wanting to use this kind of post discharge When a patient is getting ready to get out actually writing a prescription. So, and I think with the IDNs, you need to see more of that.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. That's really helpful color.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Doug.

Operator

The next question comes from Naz Rahman with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, everyone, and congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my question. Just two quick questions. The first one I have is, Your number of unique prescribers seems to be increasing at a faster rate than the number of prescriptions between 2Q and 3Q. Can you comment on what that discrepancy is?

Speaker 2

Yes. So, again, what we've still been focusing on, especially some of the new territories is Opening new accounts. And again, these in services take some time, and then converting Those first scripts, so a lot of the new prescribers might be ones just writing one here early, See how it works, wait for the patient to come back before adopting it. So I think that's what you're seeing, but we have a number of physicians. And how it usually works, Nas, is there might be 3 or 4 doctors and 3 or 4 nurse practitioners or maybe just 1 nurse Practitioner for 4 doctors and the nurse practitioner ends up being the writer even though the doctor might have written 1.

Speaker 2

The nurse practitioner tends to do most of the diuretic doctoring. So I think we're we like where we're seeing the breadth Because we're starting, especially on the start of this quarter, we've really seen a lot of the physicians now Starting to write more consistently October was a really strong month for us and November is off to a really good start. So I think We're being successful in converting those doctors who have wrote 1 or 2 into doctors or their nurse practitioners really

Speaker 7

Thanks. That was helpful. And my second and last question On the IDN network, could you provide some color or commentary on, I guess, like how many offices or facilities This represents beyond the number of patients. And like how long would it take you to do in services or how many in services do you have to do in this network to gain traction?

Speaker 2

Yes. So the network we announced today, it's kind of a hybrid IDN where There's hospitals, some of them with pretty big heart failure clinics and they've also got a net have a network Of kind of individual physicians that a lot of them practice inside the facility, but some of them are private practice Seeing patients there, Steve, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

Speaker 3

The beauty of an IDN is they can control the training. They can Schedule the employees to be available and they'll do a lot of that in servicing themselves. We won't necessarily have to do it One location at a time. In fact, they talk about they like to control it, they like to do it their way, they like to follow-up and so that's not a burden for us.

Speaker 2

Got it. That was helpful.

Speaker 3

Thanks for taking my questions. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Chase Knickerbocker with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just first for me. Just kind of look within that Rx, written Rx field, Maybe with the physicians who are having had the most success where they're writing the most where you're starting to see kind of a percentage conversion of those written scripts being a little bit higher. Do we see any sort of kind of similarities between some of those places where you've contracted Where there's a higher percentage of those patients who are on that fixed year co pay and then maybe talk about how different prior auth Kind of protocols are maybe driving higher or lower converting there as well.

Speaker 8

Thanks.

Speaker 3

So if I'm hearing correctly, the prescribers or the offices that have a higher percent filled versus others that are lower Above the average of 55. The more they use the product, the more they get comfortable with The process of doing it, providing the proper prior authorization information, the smoother it goes. The more experience they have, they also now start to look for patients who have better access to the product. We're seeing docs who are Selecting more Medicaid and more commercial and Medicare Advantage patients. And so for them, now that they believe in the product, they've seen the results, They can select and they're offering it to folks where it's a little easier, but may not necessarily have a high co pay.

Speaker 3

So we're seeing some of that.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I think Chase, I think what we saw and what we're continuing to see is that Offices are getting more used to filling out the start form and whatever information they need. Plus Our specialty pharmacy is doing a better job at finding patients. Some of these patients when they get a phone call, they don't recognize a number they don't pick up. So we're texting, we're sending them letters.

Speaker 2

So I think all of that and I think we've talked about that that this is part of the process of raising the fill rates. The other part of the process obviously is getting co pays down on adjudication time faster, which is what we're working on the market access side of it. But I do think what drove it, the increase in Q3 were doctors' offices and the specialty pharmacy really Finding the best ways to engage with these patients. And we've done market research about that, about how best to engage with these patients. So I think that's going to continue into this quarter and into next year.

Speaker 2

And I think when we put on top of that managed care payer wins, which can increase or decrease adjudication time and lower co pays. It will all drive that fill rate up.

Speaker 8

Maybe digging in there just

Speaker 2

a little bit, what are you

Speaker 8

seeing from an adjudication kind of timeframe on the ones that do eventually get filled? Is that time frame tightening? Just any sort of additional color there would be helpful.

Speaker 3

Sure. Steve? Yes. So it's doctor and patient kind of dependent. It depends on what they want.

Speaker 3

If they're looking for Expedited treatment, like they want to get on treatment tomorrow or the next day, we do that very well. 24 hours to 48 hours the docs have Yes, expedited review on the start form. So that's working very well. What people need to remember is we have docs who order the product in advance of needing it. They submit the form, they get an approval for the product, they have a known co pay And then they have it ready in a queue until they want to pull it down or release it to the patient.

Speaker 3

And so when you're doing that, you have quite a variability in The fill rate, but it's by design, it's on purpose. So I'll just answer the ones who want it quickly are getting it quickly.

Speaker 8

And maybe do you guys kind of have visibility on how what percentage of these filled and written scripts are Get us SpiroSecure now versus kind of writing and waiting for when these patients need it? Any Any sort of kind of split there that you can share?

Speaker 3

Yes. It's I don't have the actual numbers. That's a good thing. I'll have that for Next time is a question, but looking at the reports every day, it's like fifty-fifty, about 50% of people Are seeking it as quickly as possible and they're getting treatment and then about 50% of them are Just sending it in, getting answers and they're ready for when the patient needs it. And we think that's

Speaker 2

going to really play out Especially this quarter as we get into the holidays and patients tend to be dietary Non compliant, medicine non compliant, we hear from all the doctors, hey, we're going to queue this up. I know Mrs. Jones is going to get in trouble at Thanksgiving, she always does. So we're really seeing a lot of that this quarter and think they'll be able to pull them through this quarter as well.

Speaker 3

I understand. I'm going

Speaker 8

to sneak 1 more with you guys. But of those 400 that are still pending, is it fair for us to think that all of those Are kind of the right and wait kind of scripts that we could still see come through?

Speaker 3

I would say if you do the math calculation on what we published is about 16% Of all the prescriptions that were canceled, the other 442 are A lot of them have been queued and the budget that were still pending not queued have been shipped in Q3. Sorry, Q4. Q4. As Q4 has evolved, we've shipped a lot of the pending ones.

Speaker 8

Helpful. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Chase.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to John Tucker for

Speaker 2

Okay. That concludes our call this afternoon. We remain very pleased with the trajectory of our Pharosix launch and the meaningful progress that we are making with large payers And that should only add to our momentum as more heart failure patients gain affordable access to Furocyx. At the same time, we are excited about our lifecycle initiatives After having productive discussions with the FDA and look forward to providing more updates in 2024. Overall, I'm pleased with our progress and believe that we can build upon our current momentum and look forward to a successful 2024.

Speaker 2

Thank you again. Have a good evening.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

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