Consensus Cloud Solutions Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Consensus Q3 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Paul, and I will be the operator assisting you today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. On this call from consensus will be Scott Turicchi, CEO John Naborgol, COO Jim Malone, CFO and Adam Varon, Senior Vice President of Finance.

Operator

I will now turn the call over to Adam Varon, Senior Vice President of Finance at Consensus. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Consensus investor call to discuss our Q3 2023 financial results, other key information and 2023 guidance. Joining me today are Scott Turicchi, CEO John Nebergall, COO and Jim Malone, CFO. The earnings call will begin with Scott providing opening remarks. John will give you an update on our operational progress since our Q2 investor call and then Jim will discuss the Q3 2023 financial results and 2023 guidance. After we finish our prepared remarks, we will conduct a Q and A session.

Speaker 1

At that time, the operator will instruct you on the Before we begin our prepared remarks, allow me to direct you to the Safe Harbor language on Slide 2. As you know, this call and the webcast will include forward looking statements. Such statements may involve risks and uncertainties that would cause actual results to differ materially from the anticipated results. Some of those risks And uncertainties include, but are not limited to the risk factors outlined on Slide 3 that we have disclosed in our 10 ks SEC filing as well as a summary of those risk factors that we have included as part of the slideshow for the webcast. We refer you to discussions in those documents regarding safe harbor language as well as forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Now let me turn the call over to Scott.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Adam. It's now been 2 years since our spin, I would like to make some brief comments Look back over these past 2 years. As you know, we spun with a go to market focus and product roadmap aimed at the healthcare sector. We've made substantial investments and strides in this space with more than half of our corporate revenue now coming from the healthcare sector. However, we've also seen inflation and tight labor market impact revenue growth in this piece of our business.

Speaker 2

In fact, in the past two quarters, we have seen overall corporate revenue growth of approximately 3%, down from approximately 13% in Q3 of 2022. This is driven by a slowdown in revenue generation from our healthcare customers due to stable usage, Slower sign ups and a slow ramp of our larger customers. Until there is a substantial relief in the labor markets, we expect these trends to continue. As we look to next year with continuing uncertainty in both the economy as well as the labor markets, we'll be focusing our attention on EBITDA and free cash flow generation. As a result, we will reduce our capitalized investments from the level of the past 2 years, while still investing in the business at a rate higher than prior to the spin.

Speaker 2

The record cash balances of $156,000,000 in future free cash flow will be dedicated to repurchasing our equity and debt securities. Now that we have cleared the 2 year mark from the spin, we are able to repurchase debt and as a result the Board has authorized a $300,000,000 repurchase program over the next 3 years. This program covers both the 6% notes that mature in October of 2026 as well as the 6.5% notes due in October of 2028. These repurchases can take a variety of forms and will be opportunistic similar in manner to our existing stock repurchase program. While we are early in the budgeting process, I would expect negligible overall revenue growth in 2024 with continuing decline in SOHO revenues offset by mid single digit growth in our corporate channel.

Speaker 2

I would also expect greater growth in our EBITDA than in our revenue. We will be providing full year 2024 guidance on our Q4 earnings call to be held in February. While our revenues In the quarter, there were several factors that affected the results. Within the SoHo channel, we cut a meaningful amount of marketing spend on questionable profitability channels. I would also note that as we discussed last quarter, the price change to that base is complete.

Speaker 2

On the corporate side, in addition to the headwinds experienced in the healthcare sector, we also completed the migration of our fax box customer base but did incur customer attrition in the process. This was a legacy system that needed to be retired notwithstanding the customer and revenue loss. On the bright side, our EBITDA margin remained strong at 52.5%, the midpoint of our range and coupled with interest income on our cash balances and a lower share count produce year over year growth in EPS. In addition, we generated a record $50,000,000 of free cash flow for a full fiscal quarter post spin and more importantly $83,000,000 for the 9 months. As usual, there are timing differences in payment of estimated taxes and cash collections of receivables.

Speaker 2

Also as we have noted before, due to our debt structure and interest payments, we generate most of our free cash flow in quarters 1 and 3. I will now turn the call over to John for more detail on the quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Scott. As we mentioned on the last call, we held a meeting with the ECFAX partners to discuss tactics for accelerating the rollout. The talks were substantive and all partners agreed that an acceleration of the overall program in 2024 would be a mutual goal. In that context, we are actively working on acceleration options and are making progress on the overall plan. While not final, we are encouraged by the direction and anticipate a favorable schedule for next year.

Speaker 3

Now that said, we have seen the hurdles that can be encountered in a project of this scope and are going to be cautious in forecasting any revenue expected from the program next year. As for the current state of the implementation, we have increased the numbers of facilities using ECFAX. And while the pure number of facilities is an improvement, the level of usage per facility varies and not every location has been fully implemented. As we have discussed, there are nearly 30 other government agencies in the pipeline. And while progress is being made, The threat of a government shutdown earlier this quarter and the upcoming holiday season have slowed the speed of discussions.

Speaker 3

We do not expect any measurable progress on this front until sometime in 2024. On the Clarity front, we are in the process of implementing our first Clarity PA client who signed last July. Clarity PA is a specifically engineered version of Clarity aimed at the problem of prior authorization workflow. As Scott has mentioned, the slow progress in both closing the deal and implementing the customers are fully on display here. The deal took 15 months to close and will likely require an additional 12 months to implement.

Speaker 3

In the AI market, this is a typical timeframe and is what we can anticipate with each subsequent prospect engagement. Separately, we have launched the Clarity CD product tuned for clinical documentation administration and built a pipeline of interest. Our sales team is progressing through those opportunities and serious discussions are underway. On the sales front for the quarter, Q3 bookings came in at $6,400,000 which was a welcome improvement from both Q1 and Q2 results. Historically, Q3 has been the best month seasonally for sales and it appears to be holding true this year.

Speaker 3

While this result is a welcome improvement sequentially, it is still under last year's Q3 result and year to date overall 2023 bookings are still lagging 20% behind our 2022 pace. Our advanced product sales came in just short of $1,000,000 and while that was an improvement over Q2, that also still lags behind the 2022 pace. We've also continued our aggressive pursuit of harvesting healthcare accounts from the SoHo base into a more expensive corporate product. For the past several quarters, we have been 1300 customers upgraded from SoHo. While each upgrade is a positive increase in revenue, it does come with a negative impact in Couple of key metrics that are important to note.

Speaker 3

First, these customers tend to be on the extreme low end of our corporate Average revenue per account or ARPA range impacting our overall corporate ARPA with downward pressure. 2nd, the process for changing an account from SoHo to corporate includes cancellation of the SoHo account. This process then creates an unfavorable impact on SOHO churn as our system calculates the cancellation as a churned account. So as you assess our operating metrics, be aware that our upgrade program has those impacts. In the quarter, we were able to close 2 large hospital system deals with a combined 60 plus hospitals, that implementation will take most if not all of 2024.

Speaker 3

As you will recall from our discussion about the go to market Realignment earlier this year, we established the e commerce group for all web based self-service sales. This group includes our traditional This quarter, the SoHo market saw further moderation of the churn that we saw last year due to our price increase rollout. Churn for the quarter came in just under 3.5%, a nice improvement from last year's Q3 result. Now as mentioned earlier, that number includes the 1300 accounts that we upgraded to corporate. As we discussed last call, we continue to see the pace of new ads fall under pre pandemic levels.

Speaker 3

As we've also said on our last call, the expectation is that this trend will be the new normal in SoHo as we have made the decision to pull back spending in areas of Soho that we found to have questionable profitability. And we'll continue to scrutinize our marketing spend to ensure high returns for the business. This quarter, we launched an e commerce product targeting SMB customers. Traditionally, we had used our inside sales team to sell Inbound web opportunities and these form fill customers would be assisted by a live sales rep. The release of this eFACT Protect Product marks our first entry into the self-service sales approach for corporate.

Speaker 3

Finally, on the product front, as mentioned earlier, we successfully released Clarity CD and we have also successfully completed The J Sign High Trust Audit. Now let me pass the presentation to Jim Malone, our CFO. Jim?

Speaker 4

Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Let's start with our corporate business results. Q3 2023 revenue was $50,400,000 an increase of 1,500,000 or 3% over the prior year comparable period versus growth of 13% From Q3 2021 to Q3 2022, the corporate revenue growth slowed 3% from 13% in Q3 2022 due to an increased number of customers at lower As our larger clients remain slow in both their decision cycles and implementation. Corporate ARPA, dollars 3.12 was down $36 or 10.5 percent from the prior year attributable to the mix of paid ads at a lower ARPA including SoHo accounts moving to corporate. However, it was similar to the offer as we experienced in Q2.

Speaker 4

Monthly churn improved 20 basis points to 1.5% over the prior year delivering a trailing 12 month revenue retention of 100%. Moving to SOHO results, Q3 2023 Revenue of $40,100,000 a decrease of $2,700,000 or 6.2 percent over the prior comparable period. This decrease was driven by an anticipated decline in our base offset by the impact of price increases in the period. This was the hardest comparable as the price increase had substantial effect in Q3 2022, But there had not yet been a meaningful increase in churn. In addition, as Scott noted, We cut marketing spend with a lifetime value to customer acquisition cost was marginally profitable.

Speaker 4

The ARPA of $15.31 increased by $0.89 or approximately 6% year over year benefiting from the price increase. Churn declined 10 basis points 3.5% compared to the prior period and pre price increase levels. Notwithstanding the above 6.2 percent revenue decline in the quarter, the full year SOHO revenue decline is benefiting Moving to Q3 consolidated results. Revenue of 90 point $6,000,000 is a decrease of $1,200,000 or 1.3 percent over Q3 2022. Adjusted EBITDA of $47,500,000 was a decrease of $1,600,000 over Q3 22% or 3.2 percent delivering a 52.5% margin.

Speaker 4

The main drivers are the revenue flow through mentioned above, the planned employment costs, timing of bad debt expenses, while managing cost to keep EBITDA margins within the 50% to 55% guidance expectations. The Q3 2023 non GAAP tax rate and share count was 19.1% And 19,700,000 shares, respectfully. Note, we repurchased 152,000 shares in the quarter and approximately 500,000 shares year to date. Adjusted non GAAP net income 29,700,000 increased $1,100,000 or 3.7 percent driven by the benefits of interest income of 1,500,000 Non cash revaluation of intercompany counts of $700,000 and a lower effective tax rate. Non GAAP EPS of $1.51 was better than the prior comparable year by 5.6% or $0.08 We continue to build our cash position ending the quarter with a record $156,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, which is sufficient to fund our operations and debt.

Speaker 4

Q3 was a record post spin full fiscal quarter free cash flow of $49,900,000 Turning to guidance, Q4 2023 guidance Range is as follows: revenues between $87,500,000 90,500,000 with $89,000,000 at midpoint adjusted non GAAP EBITDA between 46.3 at $48,200,000 with $47,400,000 at midpoint. Adjusted non GAAP EPS at $1.15 to $1.19 with $1.17 at midpoint. For the full year, the guidance is revenues between $362,000,000 $365,000,000 with $364,000,000 at midpoint. Adjusted non GAAP EBITDA between $186,000,000 $188,000,000 with $187,000,000 at the midpoint. Adjusted non GAAP EPS at $5.13 to $5.17 with $5.15 at the midpoint.

Speaker 4

We're planning to file our Q3 2023 10Q at market close today, November 9. That concludes my formal comments. I'd like to turn the call back to Scott for some final remarks Before we move to the Q and A section. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jim. Before we begin our Q and A session, I would like to take the You talk about a management transition noted in our press release. John Nebergall, our Chief Operating Officer will step down from this position effective December 31. John will continue as a strategic advisor in 2024 as he relocates and travels the world. I want to thank John for his more than 5 years of service to the business.

Speaker 2

He was hired in mid-twenty 18 to grow the business, focus the opportunity on the healthcare sector and build out our management team. As part of that build out, he hired Johnny Hecker, who will become our Chief Revenue Officer effective January 1, 2024 as well as the EVP of Operations. I would ask Johnny to join us now for the Q and A and I'll turn it over to the operator to instruct you how to queue for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. We did have a question come from Jon Tanwanteng from CJS Securities. Jon, your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hi, good afternoon. It's Pete Lucas for John. I guess, just in terms of the VA rollout, How much do you think you can gain from that plan next year on a growth revenue basis or however you want to define it? How should we think about that?

Speaker 6

Yes, that's something we'd like to be able to know as well. As I mentioned in my opening remarks, although I gave some Directional guidance for next year, this is clearly not the formal guidance nor is it a budget. As John noted in his comments, We had a very substantive meeting back in late August with not only Cognizante, the VA and their various representatives. Here we sit in almost mid November and there still is a plan being worked through in terms of exactly how the rollout will proceed. And if I had to put it into 2 buckets, the initial phase that we discussed last quarter that concluded with the 40 sites was done on a site basis and the philosophy was that you would take each individual unit, call it a clinic, hospital, etcetera and you would convert everything within that facility from what they were currently doing to ECFAX.

Speaker 6

Now that's not the way we would generally roll out A large scale corporate enterprise. The what has occurred in this sort of next phase that we have been rolling out is and John noted this is we are rolling out more facilities, but not necessarily Taking all the pieces at a moment in time. And this is an important distinction because there are layers of Methods by which facts can be sent and received within an organization. To give you some idea, There are individual numbers, point to point communications, there's fax that travels inbound versus outbound, some may be on servers, Some may be associated with multifunction devices of which there could be a variety, think HP, Ricoh, Canon, Lexmark, Brother, etcetera. There are applications Well, you can fax from the application or it can be received in.

Speaker 6

So it's a nontrivial exercise to think about taking an organization or an office And converting everything they do because likely they use all of these formats and converting them all. So typically what we would do As we would go in order and the order would be generally how you can get the most users on a platform quickly And also where there is the most concentration of traffic. And I think as John noted in his remarks, There is an alignment here between the VA's objectives, Cognizant's objectives and our objectives, which is more usage, more users, even if it's not necessarily a complete facility that transitions over at a moment in time. Having said that, We're still working through with Cabasani, the VA, what that exactly means and what a rollout going forward looks like. So It's a lengthy answer to let you know that it's very much of a work in progress.

Speaker 6

What we can say is that there's very little revenue In 2023, what we book to date and we're likely to book in the remaining 50, 60 days of the year. So we do believe there will be a substantial uptick off of a very small base in 2023. Even amongst ourselves, there's some range of what that number could be. My own belief and view is it should be 7 digits, But where it is in the 7 digit range is very much a question I think yet to be answered. And obviously, we will refine that number And when we release our 2024 guidance in conjunction with the Q4 call, we'll have a more explicit, I think, view on that.

Speaker 5

Very helpful. Thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question is coming from Fatima Gulani from Citi. Fatima, your line is live.

Speaker 7

Hey, good afternoon, guys. This is Mark on for Fatima. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe one for Johnny. I understand it's still early days and early in the process before you get into the CRO role.

Speaker 7

But when you take on the CRO role, Any sort of early points you can share of your plans there? Should we maybe expect changes in sales incentives or go to market initiatives? And then any sort of color around areas of upside or downside risk as you're going to 2024 aside from the obvious macro

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, thank

Speaker 6

you. Yes, good question.

Speaker 8

I think we've started that process earlier this Here with the go to market realignment and I had the opportunity on the last earnings call to take everybody through our continuum of customers And how we are migrating our sales motion to beat our customers on their buying motion to be more flexible in the market. And I think we're going to continue on that road. As John mentioned in the remarks, we have started The e commerce channel for the corporate space, that's proven to be a successful progress, so we're going to continue down that road. So the one thing will definitely be that alignment with our customers buying motion and And continuing that realignment of our go to market sales and marketing teams. And the other team will be obviously Continuing to analyze our existing customer base and doubling down on the verticals that are most successful for us today, Primarily that'd be the healthcare space.

Speaker 8

We're seeing a lot of growth in that area. Scott talked about it in his opening remarks that it's More than 50% of our corporate revenue by now. So we're going to continue down that road and double down on those verticals.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. And then maybe just one for Scott or Jim. As you guys think going into the 2024, any sort of guidance on capital allocation strategy or changes there? Good to see the optionality on the debt side, but what's the priority here given the back of headwinds?

Speaker 6

Yes. And we have a related question that came by email, but I'll answer your question first and then there's a derivative of that question that came by email, which I'll also address. So We were just to bring everybody up to speed who hasn't followed the company since spin, as I noted in the opening remarks, we were limited And our capital allocation strategies to this point and only being able to obviously invest in the company, repurchase our equity securities or do M and A. We did a little bit of M and A very early on in acquiring Summit, but that's not really been the focus of the company as you know. So most of our capital allocation Has been allocated to repurchasing stock, which we've done fairly consistently and of course banking cash.

Speaker 6

Now our attention shifts somewhat In that, we do have a maturity coming up in a little under 3 years. Those will be the 6% notes through October 15% to 26% and then 2 years later, the 500,000,000 to 6.5 Given that we've crossed the 2 year threshold to spin, we now have flexibility of buying the securities. Now in the case of the 6.5s, They're non called. In the case of the 6s, they're callable, but at a $103 price. And because of the movement in interest rates, both securities trade below par.

Speaker 6

Little unclear exactly the spot price, the bonds are not quite as liquid as the stock, but I think it's safe to say the 6.5s are in the mid-80s And the 6s, which have the near term maturity are closer to the mid-90s. And so We will be looking, the Board authorized a $300,000,000 repurchase program over the next 3 years. I would note that it is opportunistic. So don't be looking for a tender tomorrow at some spot price. Likely we will I spent some time looking at what can be done in the open market, not dissimilar from what we do with our equity buyback program.

Speaker 6

Clearly, as we look at both our cash balances and prospective free cash flow, we will be at least over time allocating, I'd say a meaningful amount of that to debt retirement. What I can't tell you is at the pace at which it will come Or whether it will come in dribs and drabs or chops because state maturity is 3 years away. We want to be we want to get the best deal we can On both securities, we will be looking to buy each tranche, but we'll have to be I'm sure you'll be asking the question, you'll see in our Qs in our case, how much we purchase each quarter. And I think if you look out over a 2 to 3 year timeframe, it'll be a significant amount of Well, I'll call the cumulative cash balances, if you take what we have today, you just accumulate cash over the next 2 to 3 years. Obviously, we don't have to retire the 6% notes at maturity.

Speaker 6

We can't refinance, but we're also cognizant that it's likely to be a higher rate environment than when we issued the notes back in the summer, late summer of 2021. So stay tuned, you'll see it. The derivative question, which to say it's very hard to answer, The specific question is on free cash flow for 2024. So let's start by where we are in 2023. So we're $83,000,000 for the 9 months, but Q4 is generally not a cash generative quarter.

Speaker 6

We've just paid $25,500,000 of interest on Two points of note, it's also a quarter we pay estimated tax payments. And then of course there's the normal CapEx etcetera that will occur in the quarter. So it's likely that we finished the year below the $83,000,000 number somewhere probably in the mid-seventy range in terms of the baseline. As I look forward, I don't know based on the last answer how much of the debt will be purchased and how much of an arbitrage that will be Because recognize we are earning $5.40 on our cash. So eliminating the coupon of 6 And 6.5 gives us a little bit of delta, but I don't know how much I'll be able to buy back the timing and for that matter the price.

Speaker 6

So the way we look at sort of the cash flow in the next year, once again, these are very rough numbers as budgeting is far from complete. But we would look at just building the cash through the year, Earning interest on it, paying the tax associated with it, and then we should do better than that if in fact we are buying dead end and eliminating either a higher coupon and or getting a discount, which I expect for both. What I think is the most linear Relationship from 2023 to 24 is the reduction in capitalized labor CapEx for capitalized labor. We expect that to come down at least $7,000,000 year over year. That would flow through directly to free cash flow.

Speaker 6

So when you did all that together, It means we should be somewhere in the low 80s next year. Hopefully, that is a conservative number and we can do better based on What we do believe will be some EBITDA growth as well as some repurchases of the debt in the open market, which will give us some incremental Leverage against just earning $540,000,000 of the cash.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. And there were no other questions in queue at this time. I would now like to hand the call back to Scott Turicchi for closing remarks.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you, Paul, and thank you all for joining us today on our Q3 calls. We will have The next earnings call, which of course will be the Q4 call and as I mentioned at the beginning, we will have a more robust discussion about 2024 guidance. That will be sometime in probably the latter part of February, 3rd week of February of 2024. We do have an upcoming high yield bond conference at the end of this month, courtesy of Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Speaker 6

We'll be there. There will be another conference from BTIG that we'll be at on the 20th November. That's for the equity holders. And then stay tuned for additional press releases, for additional conferences, probably more likely at the beginning of next year versus the balance of this year. And of course, if you do have further questions, you can contact any one of us and we'd be happy to get back to you.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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