NYSE:HP Helmerich & Payne Q4 2023 Earnings Report $15.28 -0.04 (-0.26%) Closing price 05/30/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$15.42 +0.15 (+0.95%) As of 05/30/2025 07:56 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Helmerich & Payne EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.69Consensus EPS $0.72Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.45Helmerich & Payne Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$659.61 millionExpected Revenue$662.17 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.56 millionYoY Revenue Growth+4.50%Helmerich & Payne Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date11/9/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, November 9, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHelmerich & Payne's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Helmerich & Payne Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Elmert and Payne Fiscal 4th Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. Please note this call may be recorded and we will be standing by if you should need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn today's conference over Vice President of Investor Relations, Dave Wilson. Operator00:00:29Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you, David, and welcome everyone to Home Conference Call and Webcast for the Q4 and Fiscal Year Ended 2023. With us today are John Lindsay, President and CEO and Mark Smith, Senior Vice President and CFO. Both John and Mark will be sharing some comments with us, after which we'll open the call for questions. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I'll remind everyone that this call will include Looking statements are defined under the securities laws. Such statements are based on current information and management's expectations as of this date and are not guarantees of future performance. Speaker 100:01:02Forward looking statements involve certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. As such, our actual outcomes and results could differ materially. You can learn more about these risks in our annual report on Form 10 ks, our quarterly reports on 10 Q and our other SEC filings. You should not place undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update these forward looking statements. We also make reference to certain non GAAP financial measures such as segment operating income, direct margins and other operating statistics. Speaker 100:01:35You'll find the GAAP reconciliation comments and calculations in yesterday's press release. With that said, I'll turn the call over to John Lindsay. Speaker 200:01:43Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Our fiscal 2023 did not unfold as originally planned, But I want to underscore 3 noteworthy items that stand out in my mind as being pivotal for the company going forward. First, we continue to demonstrate that we are approaching the business differently with a heightened focus on contract economics versus market share. Speaker 200:02:11This was evident in fiscal 2022 when the rig count was increasing. In fiscal 2023, the challenges were different as the rig count was on the decline much Yet we still maintained our economic focus and did not revert back to the historical habits of Cutting price to maintain market share. 2nd was the ability of the company to quickly pivot and adapt to a more challenging market while still achieving much of what we set out to do. We generated healthy margins and a reasonable rate of return for stakeholders. Lastly, we returned approximately 10% of our market capitalization to shareholders through base and supplemental dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:02:57All this while maintaining a strong balance sheet. Turning to the details of fiscal 2023, rig demand was negatively impacted by geopolitical and economic uncertainties that influenced the global oil market as well as warmer than expected winter weather, which suppressed pricing in the U. S. Natural gas market. Again, we quickly adapted to the market conditions and maintained focus on achieving economic returns above our cost of capital. Speaker 200:03:28Residents are coming to traditional focus on market share. Despite the adversity, HEP delivered differentiated commercial value to its customers in return Even though the industry super spec rig count declined during much of 2023, We expect activity will increase in 2024, but at levels below the highs seen last year. Those incremental super spec rig adds will most likely tighten effective super spec market utilization well above the 80% level, Despite the industry decline in rig activity, notwithstanding the drag created by the sidelining of higher priced Spot market rigs during the past couple of quarters. We were able to maintain and slightly improve our revenue per day during the quarter. Nonetheless, our expense per day did trend higher, and we will comment on that further. Speaker 200:04:38Looking ahead to the next quarter, our guidance suggests our margins will be flat to up slightly. Our ability to drive consistent and reliable value for customers through operations and technology solutions ultimately determines market share over the long term. The adoption of performance based contracts increased to 52% in the Q4 from 41% a year ago. These contracts deploy H and P's suite of technology solutions that help to drive strong performance and greater reliability. Drilling services make up only a small portion of the overall cost of a well, but rig performance can have an outsized influence on the ultimate economics of the project. Speaker 200:05:28Identifying, measuring and then consistently delivering solutions and technologies to improve efficiency and drilling outcomes Creates a win win for both H and P and our customers, improving the financial returns for both as well. An important element within our contract economics are the operational costs involved in providing our services. Over the past 2 years, we have experienced increases in operational expenses due to rising labor costs and consumable inventory consumption and cost inflation. A less visible but growing variable is the cost Acceleration on equipment related to running H and P's FlexRig fleet harder than ever before to achieve the well designed lateral lengths and the drilling efficiencies for our We've seen the inflation related to labor and consumable inventory items decrease somewhat in 2023. However, It is being offset by the service intensity required to maintain rigs and equipment at standards that will continue to drive performance and efficiency gains. Speaker 200:06:40Let me provide an example. In the last 10 years, Average lateral length has doubled to over 10,000 feet. And at the same time, the well cycle times have improved by 22%. This means that each Flex rig today drills about 4.5 more wells on average per year And those rigs have doubled the exposure to the resource. In 2023, the fleet actually drilled 15,000,000 more feet of wellbore working 33 fewer rigs than a decade ago. Speaker 200:07:17This is an example of service intensity and a significant cause of increasing costs related to higher operational costs required to deliver consistency, efficiency and the increased volume of work each rig is now expected to produce. To put a finer point on the magnitude of these cost increases and the impact on our contract economics, North America Solutions operating costs increased over 50% since 2014. Like most businesses, we are also experiencing inflationary pressures in our Non operational expenses, particularly around labor and third party services, which are key drivers behind our projected increase in selling, General and administrative expenses. Mark will give more details on this in his remarks. We have begun to capitalize on unconventional opportunities outside the U. Speaker 200:08:14S, enabling us to further diversify our operations over the long term. I'm pleased with the early signs of success here, particularly with our recent tender award with Saudi Aramco and the operations of our first Super spec rig in the Beetaloo Basin in Australia. In fiscal 2024, we plan to build on this momentum and continue to deploy capital for future International Growth Opportunities. We're also thankful for celebrating 50 years in Colombia, 25 years in Argentina the consistent contribution from our offshore Gulf of Mexico operation, and we're excited about the potential contribution from these segments in the years to come. Shifting to our efforts focused on the energy transition, we are furthering our strategy of Join capital and expertise to companies advancing innovative approaches to energy. Speaker 200:09:09As an example, Our investments in geothermal are helping to develop an alternative carbon free 20 fourseven power source. We're providing unconventional growing learnings in FlexRig Technology Solutions to enhance and enable next generation geothermal concepts. A recent highlight is the encouraging progress in the field with 1 of our geothermal investees, Fervoe Energy. We're currently drilling the 5th well of a multiyear drilling campaign in Utah. This is their 1st geothermal development project, which We'll include constructing the 2nd largest geothermal plant in the U. Speaker 200:09:49S. And with plans of producing 400 megawatts of geothermal power by 2028. H and P Super Spec FlexRig 3 along with our technology suite has Surpassed our customers' anticipated performance targets. Our strategic alliances with Fervoe and our other innovative companies have put us Firmly on the path to participate in next generation geothermal opportunities and grow our unconventional geothermal drilling expertise to a larger scale. In addition to our operational and growth accomplishments during the year, we believe an essential ingredient Achieving shareholder success is having a multi pronged approach to capital allocation. Speaker 200:10:361st and foremost, we prioritize the company's Long standing posture of a strong financial position and fiscal prudence. 2nd, we look to invest organic projects with attractive returns so that we can continue to lead the industry in the U. S. And develop future growth internationally. Finally, we seek to return capital to shareholders through an established base dividend, augmented by supplemental dividends and share repurchases when those opportunities exist. Speaker 200:11:06Mark will provide additional details about the plan in his remarks. I'm proud of the H and P team's service attitude and strategic achievements this fiscal year and will remain vigilant as we navigate through 2024. We enter this New Year with a sense of optimism around the U. S. Market and international opportunities as well as what we can deliver to both customers and shareholders. Speaker 200:11:31We believe the outlook over the next several years is encouraging for our industry. The long term energy fundamentals are And as such, H and P remains ready and we'll continue to take actions to ensure future success for the company. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Mark. Thanks, John. Today, I will review our fiscal 4th quarter and full year 2023 operating results provide guidance for the Q1 and full fiscal year 2024 as appropriate and comment on our financial position. Speaker 200:12:05Let me start with highlights for the recently completed Q4 fiscal year ended September 30, 2023. Company generated quarterly revenues of $660,000,000 versus $724,000,000 in the previous quarter. The decrease in revenue is primarily due to the expected reduction in active rig counts for the North America Solutions fleet. Correspondingly, total direct operating costs incurred were $410,000,000 for the 4th quarter versus $430,000,000 for the previous quarter. The sequential decrease is driven by the aforementioned reduction in activity, but this decline was somewhat muted by a lower fixed absorption and maintenance and supply expense intensity, which ended up being on the higher end of the range this quarter. Speaker 200:12:52General and administrative expenses totaled $56,000,000 for the Q4 and $207,000,000 for fiscal 2023, which is generally in line with our expectations. The fiscal 2023 effective tax rate was approximately 27%, which is within the previously guided range. To summarize 4th quarter's results, H and P earned Profit of $0.77 per diluted share versus $0.93 in the previous quarter. Earnings per share were positively impacted by a net $0.08 gain per share of select items, which was primarily made up of gains on investment securities and settlements of outstanding claims, partially offset by a blue chip swap transaction. Absent these select items, adjusted diluted earnings per share was 0.69 in the 4th fiscal quarter compared with an adjusted $1.09 during the 3rd fiscal quarter. Speaker 200:13:48Capital expenditures for the 4th quarter were 100 $14,000,000 with full fiscal 2023 totaling $395,000,000 which was generally in line with our expectations from the July earnings call. H and P generated $215,000,000 in operating cash flow in the 4th quarter and a total of $834,000,000 during the full fiscal 2023. Our cash flow generation funded $846,000,000 in capital deployment, including $395,000,000 of CapEx, $104,000,000 in base dividends, dollars 98,000,000 in supplemental dividends and $249,000,000 in share repurchases together with related excise taxes. We will discuss our expected accretive fiscal 2024 cash generation and cash position later in these remarks. Turning to our 3 segments, beginning with the North America Solutions segment. Speaker 200:14:43We averaged 149 contracted rigs During the Q4, down from an average of 166 rigs in fiscal Q3. We exited the 4th quarter With 147 contracted rigs, which is at the high end of our expectation. Note that the 147 rigs corresponds to Approximately 80% utilization of the super spec rigs that have worked within the last year. Revenues were sequentially lower By $66,000,000 due to the expected sequential decrease in the number of working rigs. Segment direct margin was $239,000,000 within our July guidance range. Speaker 200:15:21Total segment per day expenses, excluding reimbursables, increased to $19,800 during the Q4 from 18,700 per day in the Q3. As discussed in our press release, this was above our Due in part to maintenance and supplies expense from rigs running harder. Further cost drivers include rig churn and decreased labor and overhead absorption. During this trough period, we retained crew personnel, regional specialty positions and rig fabrication and maintenance Additionally, the segment incurred a $150 per day really Charge related to the change in the fair value of the contingent liability related to an acquisition run out based on operating performance metrics. Looking ahead to the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for North America Solutions. Speaker 200:16:17As of today's call, we have 147 contracted rigs as the contractual churn has been higher than expected, which has kept our activity level relatively flat thus far in the quarter. That said, we expect to end our 1st fiscal quarter with between 150156 rigs working and are anticipating some additional adds in fiscal Q2. Our current revenue backlog from our North America Solutions fleet is roughly $1,100,000,000 for rigs under term contract, up from $900,000,000 in the previous quarter. As of today, approximately 60% of the U. S. Speaker 200:16:55Active fleet is on a term contract. As activity increases, we expect our average pricing levels to remain steady, given that spot pricing levels have remained relatively stable and above lower rate legacy term contracts that continue to roll And to the current pricing environment, in North America's in the North America Solutions segment, we expect direct margins in fiscal Q1 To range between $235,000,000 to $255,000,000 Given that 70% to 75% of our daily costs are labor related, It is typical to see seasonal declines from payroll taxes, etcetera. In general, our operating costs have increased approximately 25% since the end as a result of longer laterals. Labor expenses elevated by 2 inflation adjustments in the past 2 years and supply chain cost inflation. Further, continued rig churn drives cost levels higher. Speaker 200:18:00These increased costs are one of the many reasons we are acutely focused on maintaining recently achieved pricing levels as we Strive to earn appropriate returns on our investments. Regarding our International Solutions segment, We had approximately 13 rigs active at September 30th as expected and sequentially flat from prior quarter. As a reminder, we revised international guidance via our October 18 press release as a result of accelerating some rig commissioning due to timing efficiencies at our Houston facility and due to certain expat labor expenses. Further, we experienced a $4,600,000 foreign Change loss on Argentina pesos and country based on the devaluation of the official exchange rate in the segment which is in the segment results. Separately, we experienced a $12,000,000 investment loss that related to accessing the blue chip Swap effective parallel exchange mechanism in Argentina. Speaker 200:18:59Although we took this investment loss, we were able to repatriate in that $9,800,000 Looking towards the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for the International segment, We expect to idle 1 rig in Argentina mid quarter with all other countries remaining at constant activity levels. Aside from any foreign exchange impacts, we expect to have between $7,000,000 to $10,000,000 direct operating contribution Direct margin contribution in the Q1. Turning to our Offshore Gulf of Mexico segment. As expected, we completed the demobilization of the rig in the 4th Fiscal quarter and now have 3 of our 7 offshore platform rigs contracted. We have management contracts on 3 customer owned rigs, one of which is on active freight. Speaker 200:19:48Offshore generated a drag margin of approximately $7,000,000 during the quarter, which was within our guided range. As we look toward the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for the Offshore Gulf of Mexico segment, we expect that it will generate between $3,000,000 to $7,000,000 of direct margin, which is down sequentially primarily due to the stacking of the aforementioned rig. Now, let me look forward to the 1st fiscal quarter and full fiscal year 2024 for certain consolidated and corporate items. Let me start by reiterating features in our multi pronged approach to capital allocation that John mentioned earlier. Our strategy is to maintain our strong balance sheet together with investment grade credit metrics, to invest in maintaining our market leading North America solutions fleet and to deploy capital to support growth and diversification opportunities internationally with prudent investments in our rig fleet. Speaker 200:20:45Finally, our recently announced 2024 supplemental shareholder plan return plan continues our strategy introduced a year ago to flexibly augment As discussed in our October 18 press release and in yesterday's release, our fiscal 2024 CapEx has 3 buckets: North America, International and Corporate and Information Technology. Our bucket of North America solutions includes maintenance CapEx costs, which are anticipated to push above the high end of the fiscal 2023 range due in part to fiscal year 2023 supply chain delays in capital spending for component equipment refurbishment and recertification that has rolled into fiscal year 2024. Fiscal 2024 maintenance CapEx for Active Rigs should Approximately $1,300,000 to $1,500,000 per active rig based on current bottoms up maintenance facility and supply chain throughput This level of capital intensity has some inflation built in from the last couple of years, but It is also at a projected high point due to continued catch up spending from the 2020 downturn. The international bucket primarily The international bucket partially consists of a planned minor upgrade to 3 rigs in Argentina utilizing funds currently in country to take them to full super spec capacity. We plan to continue converting Slightly over 1 rig per month to walk in capability at our Houston facility, resulting in approximately 14 conversions in fiscal 2024. Speaker 200:22:24These conversions will be split between North America Solutions and International Exports depending on the successful outcomes of Current and anticipated international bids and on U. S. Customer demand at attractive rates and terms. The The final bucket of Corporate and Information Technology consists primarily of enterprise financial and operating system upgrades and rig communications improvements. Depreciation for fiscal 2024 is expected to be approximately $390,000,000 Our sales, general and administrative expenses for the full Bill 24 year expected to approximately $230,000,000 which is up from the prior year. Speaker 200:23:04We have continued to build capabilities to Support the company, including expertise that has aligned pricing with value delivered in North America and in securing initial Middle East international growth. We have also introduced several software as a service solutions to improve our data and analysis in many areas. And finally, we have experienced inflation across many functional areas in 2023 for labor and third party services, for which we will bear the full run rate in Our investment in research and development remains largely focused on solutions for our Customers such as drilling automation, wellbore quality and power management, we anticipate R and D expenditures to be approximately $30,000,000 in 2024. We are expecting an effective income tax rate range of 24% to 29% with the variance above the U. S. Speaker 200:23:57Stat rate of 21% driven by state and foreign Based upon estimated fiscal 'twenty four operating results and CapEx, we are projecting a consolidated cash tax range of $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 Now looking at our financial position. Helmerich and Payne had cash and short term investments of approximately $350,000,000 at September 30, 2023 versus $293,000,000 in June 30. Including availability under our revolving credit facility, our liquidity It remains at approximately $1,100,000,000 As announced in our October press release, subject to ongoing Board approval, We plan to pay supplemental dividends across fiscal 2024 of about $68,000,000 which is approximately 50% of the projected remaining cash flow after CapEx and after our established base dividend. In essence, over 2 thirds of cash flow after CapEx is planned to be returned to shareholders with approximately 1 third remaining As of today, this flexible $68,000,000 unallocated together with our current $350,000,000 cash and short term equivalents on hand Provides us with much flexibility for accretive investments, opportunistic share buybacks and or further supplemental dividends. Future capital allocation plans look to further add to our long standing priority of returning cash to shareholders, increasing to roughly 3.1 That concludes our prepared comments for the 4th fiscal quarter. Speaker 200:25:31Let me now turn the call over to David Creed for questions. Operator00:25:44Keep in mind, you may remove yourself from the question queue at any time by pressing the pound key. We will take our first question from David Smith with Pickering Energy Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 300:25:59Hey, good morning. If you could indulge me for just a second. Speaker 200:26:07David, we can barely hear you if Speaker 400:26:08you can speak up a bit. Operator00:26:14Okay. Is this any better? Speaker 200:26:15Yes. That's much better, Dave. Thank you. Operator00:26:17Okay. Sorry about that. Speaker 300:26:19If you could indulge me for just a second, so I can properly frame the question. I wanted to acknowledge the impressive leadership and success on the pricing discipline, The strong shareholder returns generated, not many companies returning almost 50% of EBITDA to shareholders in 2023. But then I look at the international CapEx program, which I think was around $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 in fiscal 2023. I think it looks closer to $150,000,000 $160,000,000 for fiscal 'twenty four. And I see a segment that generated $25,000,000 of direct margin this last fiscal year. Speaker 300:26:55And just wanted to ask if you can kind of remind us what the investment is targeting in terms of what kind of activity levels You're ultimately targeting the timing to get there. Any other way you might want to frame the international growth aspirations? Speaker 200:27:12Thank you, David. That's a great question. I did want to mention that we do have a lot of aspirational growth internationally. I also wanted to be clear that there are multiple tenders bids that are going on in Multiple countries, really. And so at this stage of the game, we're really not in a position where we want to Give out a lot of information related to that as far as just the details, just for competitive advantages, competitive reasons. Speaker 200:27:54I think in the next couple of months, we'll be able to give quite a bit more color on that. But suffice it to say, our intention is to Continue to invest in the FlexGrid fleet that's here in the U. S. And look to export that capacity international. I might just add a couple of footnotes, David. Speaker 200:28:18Dave, over the long term, obviously, Our goal is to grow the percentage of the corporation's consolidated EBITDA in international by exporting Some of these rigs that are suited for unconventional emerging markets overseas, but we're not giving any specifics related to those targets. It's a long process and we had a couple of key wins that John mentioned in the prepared remarks in Saudi Arabia and Australia They will happen this year, but we're trying to do these investments, obviously, generating returns like the double digit ROIC that we achieved in fiscal 2023 Through time, and as John said, we want to be for competitive reasons, we don't want to talk a lot about specifics with these. Suffice it to say that we have some ongoing current bids and some others that we anticipate coming down the pipeline. And in the near term, we can put some rigs to work in the U. S. Speaker 200:29:18For short term contracts, having these available for longer term export opportunities, Confident that we will generate returns on the investments made. Speaker 300:29:30Great. I appreciate all the color and look forward to The announcements when you're able to make them. If I could sneak a quick follow-up in there, and sorry if I missed this, but just thinking about the fiscal Q1 guidance for North America Solutions with margins, I think the implied daily margin flat to slightly up. Just wondering if you could share your view on how the daily OpEx is impacting the Q1 guidance. Speaker 200:30:03Yes. Dave, appreciate the question. Costs were higher, as we mentioned, in the fiscal Q4. And I would just put it into 3 buckets really for simplification. I think we're over 1100 versus a lot of analyst estimates. Speaker 200:30:20And I would say, call it, 300 of that was related to labor absorption. So with increased rigs, that would come down. Another 200 or so related to the higher materials and supplies, consumption and intensity, which appears to be with us for a bit. But the balance of the rest really are a hodgepodge of other items that should not reoccur. Speaker 300:30:44Okay, great color. I appreciate that. I'll turn it back. Speaker 200:30:48All right, Dave. Thank you. Operator00:30:51We'll take our next question from Kurt Hallead with Benchmark. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:30:58Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:31:00Good morning, Kurt. Speaker 500:31:02Appreciate the color and the commentary. So I'm kind of curious, right, as to the You mentioned expectation for improved activity out into 2024 and those levels of activity will not quite get Back to the highs that were reaching 2023. And then you kind of provided incremental color around 80% plus utilization for super spec rigs. So just kind of curious as to what you're hearing from the E and P client base and Until recently, I guess, it just kind of bled bricks lower. And what's kind of providing the If it is for them maybe to turn things back on going into 2024? Speaker 200:31:56Well, I think if you look at the activity levels during the course of the year, obviously, early on, A lot of the activity declines were related directly to natural gas, natural gas pricing. As we've gone through the year, What we've seen is a lot of churn associated with a lot of different reasons, but whether it's budget Driven, whether it's production driven, a lot of this, Kurt, goes back to the capital discipline that showing E and Ps, our customers are showing, which again I think is healthy for the industry. So in many cases, we're seeing somewhat of a reset in their capital budgets for the next year It is largely what we're seeing. I mean, I think in general, I think consensus Has 40 to 60 rigs on average being added for 2024. And I think that's a reasonable expectation. Speaker 200:33:11And if you look at it as it relates to Our current market share, I think it really fits in with what we're describing for our Q1 fiscal Q4. Speaker 500:33:27Okay. Appreciate that. Now maybe follow-up is, You indicated, right, the substantial efficiency gains in footage drilled and so on, leading to Fewer, I guess, ultimately leading to fewer number of rigs needed by the industry, at least in the U. S. Market Kind of going forward. Speaker 500:33:48So in that context, it seems to me that part of that is playing into your strategy Pursue some of these international opportunities. Am I reading too much into that? Speaker 200:34:01No, I think that's fair. I mean, there's no doubt that we have A desire to grow our international footprint. As we all know, when you talk about U. S. Activity in U. Speaker 200:34:17S. Production and what's currently going on, as we know, production levels are not Fairly directly aligned with the current rig count that we're experiencing. And there's we've seen it Previously. But we have capacity here in the U. S. Speaker 200:34:39To export flux Market. So that's been one of our strategies for the last couple of years and we're starting to see, as I said earlier, we're starting to see A lot more activity, a lot more bids out there to participate in. And so again, we're encouraged by that. But I think it's also important to recognize that it's very, very hard to predict rig counts and activity Out multiple years, much less a couple of quarters, as you know. We had fully intended to get our rig count to 191 During 2023, we got up to around 187 or so, and then of course, we had a market correction that we've all experienced. Speaker 200:35:27And so that can happen out of left field. Who knows what happens when natural gas prices Strengthen in 2024, 2025 timeframe. So it's a There's a lot of time left ahead of us. But clearly, to your original point, we're definitely planning to grow internationally. Speaker 500:35:50Got it. That's great. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:53Thanks, Kurt. Operator00:35:57We'll take our next Question from wakar saeed with ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:36:05Thank you for taking my question And good morning. Your performance based contracts have been running for Good to see the first question is going. If you look back over the last year, year Speaker 500:36:21and a half, how much do you think The Speaker 400:36:24performance based contracts have added to the underlying day rate driven margins. Speaker 200:36:321,000 to 2,000 per day on average when those bonuses are added in and averaged back. And that's on a Averaged out on a per rig. Yes. So it's double that on the rigs that are that actually have performance based Contracts. Speaker 400:36:51Okay, okay. So that's so it's been pretty in line with what your expectations were going in? Speaker 500:37:01Bakar, Speaker 200:37:05we're pleased with where we are. We think we have Additional progress to make on the performance based contracts, I think it makes that model Really makes too much sense for what's going on in our market The wells and the need to be more reliable and drill longer laterals, all of that, I think it makes a lot of sense and particularly when you're deploying additional Technology and capacity and automation and things like that. So I think there's still further growth in terms of percentage of our rigs and I think there's the potential growth on the additional margin That we're delivering just based on how we continue to improve and how that compares to Competitor performance. So I've said this before, do I think we're going to have ever have 100% of our rigs on performance? No, I don't necessarily think that. Speaker 200:38:07But it wasn't that long ago that we were at, oh gosh, probably 10%, 15% of our fleet and today we're at 52% and we're starting to see some additional growth with performance based contracts. So We're encouraged by the opportunity. Speaker 400:38:26Okay. And then your capital allocation framework that you've Sure. And then your supplemental dividends, regular dividends and CapEx guidance. So if we reverse engineer from there to the Expectations of EBITDA, I think consensus right now for fiscal year 2024 is about $872,000,000 So you feel comfortable with that consensus range and maybe upside a little bit there as well in your guidance Okay. The capital allocation guidance? Speaker 200:39:00Ricard, really no further comment To the numbers we put out to do the math. Speaker 400:39:08You're leaving the hard work Speaker 200:39:10for us then. Yes, sir. Speaker 400:39:16And then just finally, the U. S. Offshore, anything Kind of out there, which could increase or decrease the active count further? Speaker 200:39:29Well, as we mentioned offshore, we had the 1 rig that demobilized the stack as expected. And our sales team does have a line of sight to a couple of potential opportunities that could occur in the back half of the fiscal year, But nothing definitive on that. Speaker 400:39:47Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:39:51Thanks, Sarkar. Operator00:39:54We'll take our next question from Keith McKay with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 600:40:02Hi, good morning. Just looking back over the last year, certainly in the U. S. Rig counts have come down, Day rates came off of the leading edge peak that we saw late last year, early this year. But I think things have probably held in from a rate perspective more stable than a lot would have expected given The amount of rigs that have come out of the industry for now, so I guess the first part of the question is, would you agree with that? Speaker 600:40:35And the second part is, what if anything has surprised you about how the industry has responded to decrease in demand over the last year. Would you have expected things to be yourselves to be much worse than this or much better? Or any comments around that would be appreciated. Speaker 200:40:56Well, I'll start with the last part of Your question, I think when you consider, and I mentioned this earlier, the pullback in gas prices And the activity associated with that, I don't think that part is a surprise to us or really to anyone. And I think there's I think the oil side of the equation is probably a little Maybe a little bit more surprising, but it goes back to that theme that we mentioned related to churn. It's amazing the amount of whether it's private or public, mostly I think related to privates, but There's just a continuous churn of rigs getting released and getting put back to work. Our sales force is doing a great job With that and that leads into the pricing. And at the end of the day, We worked very hard to partner with our customers to deliver the highest level of efficiency and value As possible and doing it in a very consistent way. Speaker 200:42:10And that's worth a lot. And we hear that from Customers day in and day out that reliability and being able to drill those wells effectively and efficiently is worth a lot. And so, again, it starts with as I said earlier, it starts with our customers and that's being More disciplined in terms of their spending and that is really puts a requirement on us to do the same thing and just making certain that we're getting A return for the capital that we're investing, as you know, it's a high capital intensive business, drilling is, And we're investing a lot of money and we have great people and great technology and we've got to get I might just add to that, Keith, that in the way I another way to think about it Speaker 400:43:05is if you I can't Speaker 200:43:06speak to our competitors. I can only speak for H and P. But if you go back to the beginning of calendar 2022, we said we're going to limit the amount of rigs we're putting out. We're going to focus on our pricing, so that we can get the returns John just mentioned. And the rehearsals have been this year. Speaker 200:43:22We've been focused on the pricing and we've taken the decision to idle rigs to maintain that. So that is really A different way of operating in the last couple of years, both in the scenario with rigs going up and then this year with rigs coming down, but the same laser focus on what we need to do to generate returns for our shareholders. Speaker 600:43:43Yes. I appreciate that. Just secondly, on the international tenders, now I know you're not going to want to disclose too much here, but Is there anything you can share with respect to the magnitude of tenders? What potential Amount of rig activity in terms of a range you could see from the amount of tenders you're participating in or whether the amount of tenders are appear to be speeding up or slowing down? Any commentary around that would be helpful. Speaker 200:44:19Pete, I think I was thinking through this last night, not an exact number, but I mean there Yes, there's 15 to 20, 25 rigs worth of tenders That we're aware of and I know there's probably more. But we also know firsthand that Growth internationally tends to be pretty slow. So we're sure not putting any number out there On a percentage of that rig count or the number of rigs that we might be successful with. There's a lot of work. Our teams are working really hard to make this happen. Speaker 200:45:02So hopefully, more to come in the upcoming quarters. We're announcing some success. But At this stage, there's really not a whole lot more than that, that I can say, Mark, unless you have any other. No. And what you're referencing is just Current things that we're in active discussions. Speaker 200:45:21Active discussions in multiple countries. So it's not just one country, it's multiple Countries and the bid processes take quite some time and then the rigs actually go to work is Another 6 or 12 or 14 months even past that. So just it's very hard to put any sort of a number to it. So to that last point, John, I would We would expect to see this positively in our P and L and more likely fiscal 2025. 2025, yes. Speaker 600:45:58Got it. Okay. That's it for me. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:46:01All right. Thank you. Operator00:46:05We'll take our next question from Marc Bianchi with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 700:46:13Thanks. I think, Mark, in your remarks, you mentioned that there were some lower priced rigs in The backlog of your current contract book, could you help us understand what the opportunity is to reprice those? Maybe If we were to mark everything to the leading edge today, what that would mean for revenue per day? Speaker 200:46:40No. But there is some I think in the tables at the back of the press release, you can see a bit about What's under term and get some indication of that. We have some repricing now, which will help us more in Fiscal Q2, frankly, and then I think we have another batch rollovers in Q2. Speaker 700:46:59Okay. And the press release made a comment about Not taking much of an increase for utilization to get really tight. And I think, John, you had sort of Thought that the 40 to 60 rig add for 24 is reasonable. It would seem like Less than that number would be required for utilization to get really tight and we could start to see some pricing power. Any thoughts More specifically, how many rigs it's going to take and when we might start to see some upward movement in leading edge? Speaker 200:47:33Mark, Again, I would argue that the market is pretty tight right now. And again, we tend to Kind of be focused only on the super spec fleet. That's the rig fleet that we have working. And so that is already Really tight. So I agree with you. Speaker 200:47:55The 40 to 60 reference is really not necessarily super spec. That's kind of an industry rig count increase. Although we continue to see as an industry more and more super spec capacity requirement, Less of the non super spec. So we think that's going to trend. So I would quite frankly, I would say there's pricing Power in the market right now just based on what we see. Speaker 200:48:23So any additional net adds is just going to make that a tighter market, which is again, why we had that. It's just Make that clear. Speaker 500:48:38Yes. Okay. That's great. Speaker 700:48:39If I could just sneak one more in for Mark. The cash tax outlook It implies quite a bit higher than what it looks like your book tax ought to be. Is Is this level of cash taxes something we should be assuming going forward? Or should we be assuming that your cash taxes Quite a bit above your book tax for several more years here? Speaker 200:49:04No, I think we have it's around $25,000,000 or so of 2023 taxes are going to be actually payable in 2024. Speaker 700:49:16Okay. So that's driving Speaker 200:49:18So that cash tax amount is not purely related to 24. We're expecting the same as you saw from the range. We had a 27% effective tax rate this year and it's really that's the midpoint of next year's range as well. Speaker 700:49:31Right. Speaker 200:49:31Okay. It's just timing differences as to when we actually make the payments. Speaker 500:49:36Yes. Okay. Thank you. I'll turn it back. Speaker 200:49:39Yes. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:49:42We'll take our next Question from Tom Curran with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 300:49:50Good morning, guys. Just one left for me, but it's kind Speaker 800:49:53of a bigger open ended one. So as you endeavor to remain the industry's technology and innovation leader, What role do you foresee M and A playing over, say, the next year or 2? In the last scale up cycle, you did 4 acquisitions over 2017 through 2019 Motive, MagVar, AGC and Drillscan, just what is your appetite and approach to M and A now? And What specific capabilities or themes would you be prioritizing for a bolder fund, be it drilling optimization software, automation advancement, some other topic. Speaker 200:50:31Tom, that's a great question. And I feel really good about the acquisitions that we made and the value that we're Delivering helping deliver for customers. And I don't really see a gap in our portfolio on what we have. I feel really good about it. There are a lot of things that we continue to make advances on The automated directional drilling is continuing To progress, there's other things that we're working on to automate and those skill sets and capabilities really lend themselves to being able to do more, Not only downhole, but also on the rig itself. Speaker 200:51:21So I feel really good About where we are and what we have and the team that we have, we've been very fortunate to retain a lot of That brainpower that from the acquisitions that we made, so I feel really good about that. I don't know of any other gaps that we have. So John, it sounds as Speaker 800:51:46if I'm hearing you correctly that Speaker 300:51:48you would expect To be able Speaker 800:51:50to achieve this next chapter of development organically via R and D with the existing platform in place technologically. Speaker 200:52:01Yes. Yes, it's a good way to summarize it. I think we have the skill set and I think we have The capability in house for what we're doing. Obviously, there are always opportunities to go out and do things with other third parties, but I don't think that requires necessarily M and A in order to do that. I think that can be done with the relationships that we currently have. Speaker 100:52:32Got it. Speaker 800:52:33Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:52:35All right. Thank you. Operator00:52:39And we'll take our next Question from Abhi Madhuk with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 900:52:46Hi, good morning, team. You mentioned some cost acceleration of equipment that was left visible and you gave some color there, so really appreciate that. But curious if that Changes or is baked into your normalized margin expectations at 50% longer term, how should we think about that? Speaker 200:53:03I'm sorry, Adi. Could you repeat that question? Yes. You broke up on us just a little bit. Can you Speaker 900:53:12Yes, for sure. Hopefully, this is better. Just on the cost acceleration of equipment, is that baked into your normalized margin Expectations at 50% or does that change that expectation in the near term, longer term, how should we think about that? Speaker 200:53:27I think you're talking about something in the international segment. That's the only thing that was accelerated that we mentioned, not North America Health. Is that what you're talking about? Speaker 900:53:39I thought you mentioned some FlexRig equipment acceleration and inflation. I thought that was in North America. Yes. You're Speaker 200:53:48We got it. I'm sorry for that. The service intensity, yes, it is built in. It is very hard To determine exactly how that continues to progress because costs Do continue to increase, not only because of inflation, but because of service intensity and equipment running harder And longer and delivering more volume. So yes, there is but that is baked Into our margin? Speaker 200:54:26It is, yes. Speaker 900:54:28Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. And then you mentioned some Tenders ongoing and I understand the color might be difficult there. But as you think about accelerating some of these deployment plans in the international Market or the International segment, how should we think about the cadence of the margin in 2024? Speaker 200:54:49Well, that's it's just going to be we don't know yet. You saw the guide For this quarter's international expectations and if the countries hold flat, that's the level of margin we would anticipate Throughout the year, notwithstanding the successful outcomes of any of these bidding processes, which would cause us to incur expenses for final recommissioning and shipping charges. So it's just to be determined Based on the processes for bidding, which as John stated earlier, really sort of happen Slowly and in a very unique bid to bid. So there yes, it's If successful, like Mark said, most of that will push into 2025. There are a few countries that we could have some rigs that would deploy in 2024, but it's going to probably be more towards the back half, so it's not going to have a large impact on 2024 numbers. Speaker 200:55:58Well, it won't have any revenue for 2024, but it's Operator00:56:12And I'll now turn the call back to John Lindsay for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:56:16Thank you, David, and thanks again, everybody, for joining us today. As we said earlier, we remain optimistic about the long term energy fundamentals. We think there's a lot of opportunities out there that H and P can take advantage of and use to create value for shareholders. So thank you again for joining us today and we'll sign off.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Helmerich & Payne emphasized contract economics over market share, maintaining disciplined pricing even as rig counts fell and delivering returns above cost of capital throughout FY 2023. In Q4, revenue declined to $660 million due to lower North America rig activity, while daily operating costs rose to $19,800; the company expects Q1 FY 2024 margins to be flat to slightly up. Performance-based contracts now cover 52% of the FlexRig fleet (up from 41% a year ago), contributing an additional $1,000–2,000 in daily margin and promoting adoption of H&P’s technology suite. International growth accelerated with a Saudi Aramco tender award and the first Super Spec rig in Australia, alongside active bids in multiple countries, positioning material contribution in FY 2025. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to the Elmert and Payne Fiscal 4th Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. Please note this call may be recorded and we will be standing by if you should need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn today's conference over Vice President of Investor Relations, Dave Wilson. Operator00:00:29Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you, David, and welcome everyone to Home Conference Call and Webcast for the Q4 and Fiscal Year Ended 2023. With us today are John Lindsay, President and CEO and Mark Smith, Senior Vice President and CFO. Both John and Mark will be sharing some comments with us, after which we'll open the call for questions. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I'll remind everyone that this call will include Looking statements are defined under the securities laws. Such statements are based on current information and management's expectations as of this date and are not guarantees of future performance. Speaker 100:01:02Forward looking statements involve certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. As such, our actual outcomes and results could differ materially. You can learn more about these risks in our annual report on Form 10 ks, our quarterly reports on 10 Q and our other SEC filings. You should not place undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update these forward looking statements. We also make reference to certain non GAAP financial measures such as segment operating income, direct margins and other operating statistics. Speaker 100:01:35You'll find the GAAP reconciliation comments and calculations in yesterday's press release. With that said, I'll turn the call over to John Lindsay. Speaker 200:01:43Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Our fiscal 2023 did not unfold as originally planned, But I want to underscore 3 noteworthy items that stand out in my mind as being pivotal for the company going forward. First, we continue to demonstrate that we are approaching the business differently with a heightened focus on contract economics versus market share. Speaker 200:02:11This was evident in fiscal 2022 when the rig count was increasing. In fiscal 2023, the challenges were different as the rig count was on the decline much Yet we still maintained our economic focus and did not revert back to the historical habits of Cutting price to maintain market share. 2nd was the ability of the company to quickly pivot and adapt to a more challenging market while still achieving much of what we set out to do. We generated healthy margins and a reasonable rate of return for stakeholders. Lastly, we returned approximately 10% of our market capitalization to shareholders through base and supplemental dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:02:57All this while maintaining a strong balance sheet. Turning to the details of fiscal 2023, rig demand was negatively impacted by geopolitical and economic uncertainties that influenced the global oil market as well as warmer than expected winter weather, which suppressed pricing in the U. S. Natural gas market. Again, we quickly adapted to the market conditions and maintained focus on achieving economic returns above our cost of capital. Speaker 200:03:28Residents are coming to traditional focus on market share. Despite the adversity, HEP delivered differentiated commercial value to its customers in return Even though the industry super spec rig count declined during much of 2023, We expect activity will increase in 2024, but at levels below the highs seen last year. Those incremental super spec rig adds will most likely tighten effective super spec market utilization well above the 80% level, Despite the industry decline in rig activity, notwithstanding the drag created by the sidelining of higher priced Spot market rigs during the past couple of quarters. We were able to maintain and slightly improve our revenue per day during the quarter. Nonetheless, our expense per day did trend higher, and we will comment on that further. Speaker 200:04:38Looking ahead to the next quarter, our guidance suggests our margins will be flat to up slightly. Our ability to drive consistent and reliable value for customers through operations and technology solutions ultimately determines market share over the long term. The adoption of performance based contracts increased to 52% in the Q4 from 41% a year ago. These contracts deploy H and P's suite of technology solutions that help to drive strong performance and greater reliability. Drilling services make up only a small portion of the overall cost of a well, but rig performance can have an outsized influence on the ultimate economics of the project. Speaker 200:05:28Identifying, measuring and then consistently delivering solutions and technologies to improve efficiency and drilling outcomes Creates a win win for both H and P and our customers, improving the financial returns for both as well. An important element within our contract economics are the operational costs involved in providing our services. Over the past 2 years, we have experienced increases in operational expenses due to rising labor costs and consumable inventory consumption and cost inflation. A less visible but growing variable is the cost Acceleration on equipment related to running H and P's FlexRig fleet harder than ever before to achieve the well designed lateral lengths and the drilling efficiencies for our We've seen the inflation related to labor and consumable inventory items decrease somewhat in 2023. However, It is being offset by the service intensity required to maintain rigs and equipment at standards that will continue to drive performance and efficiency gains. Speaker 200:06:40Let me provide an example. In the last 10 years, Average lateral length has doubled to over 10,000 feet. And at the same time, the well cycle times have improved by 22%. This means that each Flex rig today drills about 4.5 more wells on average per year And those rigs have doubled the exposure to the resource. In 2023, the fleet actually drilled 15,000,000 more feet of wellbore working 33 fewer rigs than a decade ago. Speaker 200:07:17This is an example of service intensity and a significant cause of increasing costs related to higher operational costs required to deliver consistency, efficiency and the increased volume of work each rig is now expected to produce. To put a finer point on the magnitude of these cost increases and the impact on our contract economics, North America Solutions operating costs increased over 50% since 2014. Like most businesses, we are also experiencing inflationary pressures in our Non operational expenses, particularly around labor and third party services, which are key drivers behind our projected increase in selling, General and administrative expenses. Mark will give more details on this in his remarks. We have begun to capitalize on unconventional opportunities outside the U. Speaker 200:08:14S, enabling us to further diversify our operations over the long term. I'm pleased with the early signs of success here, particularly with our recent tender award with Saudi Aramco and the operations of our first Super spec rig in the Beetaloo Basin in Australia. In fiscal 2024, we plan to build on this momentum and continue to deploy capital for future International Growth Opportunities. We're also thankful for celebrating 50 years in Colombia, 25 years in Argentina the consistent contribution from our offshore Gulf of Mexico operation, and we're excited about the potential contribution from these segments in the years to come. Shifting to our efforts focused on the energy transition, we are furthering our strategy of Join capital and expertise to companies advancing innovative approaches to energy. Speaker 200:09:09As an example, Our investments in geothermal are helping to develop an alternative carbon free 20 fourseven power source. We're providing unconventional growing learnings in FlexRig Technology Solutions to enhance and enable next generation geothermal concepts. A recent highlight is the encouraging progress in the field with 1 of our geothermal investees, Fervoe Energy. We're currently drilling the 5th well of a multiyear drilling campaign in Utah. This is their 1st geothermal development project, which We'll include constructing the 2nd largest geothermal plant in the U. Speaker 200:09:49S. And with plans of producing 400 megawatts of geothermal power by 2028. H and P Super Spec FlexRig 3 along with our technology suite has Surpassed our customers' anticipated performance targets. Our strategic alliances with Fervoe and our other innovative companies have put us Firmly on the path to participate in next generation geothermal opportunities and grow our unconventional geothermal drilling expertise to a larger scale. In addition to our operational and growth accomplishments during the year, we believe an essential ingredient Achieving shareholder success is having a multi pronged approach to capital allocation. Speaker 200:10:361st and foremost, we prioritize the company's Long standing posture of a strong financial position and fiscal prudence. 2nd, we look to invest organic projects with attractive returns so that we can continue to lead the industry in the U. S. And develop future growth internationally. Finally, we seek to return capital to shareholders through an established base dividend, augmented by supplemental dividends and share repurchases when those opportunities exist. Speaker 200:11:06Mark will provide additional details about the plan in his remarks. I'm proud of the H and P team's service attitude and strategic achievements this fiscal year and will remain vigilant as we navigate through 2024. We enter this New Year with a sense of optimism around the U. S. Market and international opportunities as well as what we can deliver to both customers and shareholders. Speaker 200:11:31We believe the outlook over the next several years is encouraging for our industry. The long term energy fundamentals are And as such, H and P remains ready and we'll continue to take actions to ensure future success for the company. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Mark. Thanks, John. Today, I will review our fiscal 4th quarter and full year 2023 operating results provide guidance for the Q1 and full fiscal year 2024 as appropriate and comment on our financial position. Speaker 200:12:05Let me start with highlights for the recently completed Q4 fiscal year ended September 30, 2023. Company generated quarterly revenues of $660,000,000 versus $724,000,000 in the previous quarter. The decrease in revenue is primarily due to the expected reduction in active rig counts for the North America Solutions fleet. Correspondingly, total direct operating costs incurred were $410,000,000 for the 4th quarter versus $430,000,000 for the previous quarter. The sequential decrease is driven by the aforementioned reduction in activity, but this decline was somewhat muted by a lower fixed absorption and maintenance and supply expense intensity, which ended up being on the higher end of the range this quarter. Speaker 200:12:52General and administrative expenses totaled $56,000,000 for the Q4 and $207,000,000 for fiscal 2023, which is generally in line with our expectations. The fiscal 2023 effective tax rate was approximately 27%, which is within the previously guided range. To summarize 4th quarter's results, H and P earned Profit of $0.77 per diluted share versus $0.93 in the previous quarter. Earnings per share were positively impacted by a net $0.08 gain per share of select items, which was primarily made up of gains on investment securities and settlements of outstanding claims, partially offset by a blue chip swap transaction. Absent these select items, adjusted diluted earnings per share was 0.69 in the 4th fiscal quarter compared with an adjusted $1.09 during the 3rd fiscal quarter. Speaker 200:13:48Capital expenditures for the 4th quarter were 100 $14,000,000 with full fiscal 2023 totaling $395,000,000 which was generally in line with our expectations from the July earnings call. H and P generated $215,000,000 in operating cash flow in the 4th quarter and a total of $834,000,000 during the full fiscal 2023. Our cash flow generation funded $846,000,000 in capital deployment, including $395,000,000 of CapEx, $104,000,000 in base dividends, dollars 98,000,000 in supplemental dividends and $249,000,000 in share repurchases together with related excise taxes. We will discuss our expected accretive fiscal 2024 cash generation and cash position later in these remarks. Turning to our 3 segments, beginning with the North America Solutions segment. Speaker 200:14:43We averaged 149 contracted rigs During the Q4, down from an average of 166 rigs in fiscal Q3. We exited the 4th quarter With 147 contracted rigs, which is at the high end of our expectation. Note that the 147 rigs corresponds to Approximately 80% utilization of the super spec rigs that have worked within the last year. Revenues were sequentially lower By $66,000,000 due to the expected sequential decrease in the number of working rigs. Segment direct margin was $239,000,000 within our July guidance range. Speaker 200:15:21Total segment per day expenses, excluding reimbursables, increased to $19,800 during the Q4 from 18,700 per day in the Q3. As discussed in our press release, this was above our Due in part to maintenance and supplies expense from rigs running harder. Further cost drivers include rig churn and decreased labor and overhead absorption. During this trough period, we retained crew personnel, regional specialty positions and rig fabrication and maintenance Additionally, the segment incurred a $150 per day really Charge related to the change in the fair value of the contingent liability related to an acquisition run out based on operating performance metrics. Looking ahead to the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for North America Solutions. Speaker 200:16:17As of today's call, we have 147 contracted rigs as the contractual churn has been higher than expected, which has kept our activity level relatively flat thus far in the quarter. That said, we expect to end our 1st fiscal quarter with between 150156 rigs working and are anticipating some additional adds in fiscal Q2. Our current revenue backlog from our North America Solutions fleet is roughly $1,100,000,000 for rigs under term contract, up from $900,000,000 in the previous quarter. As of today, approximately 60% of the U. S. Speaker 200:16:55Active fleet is on a term contract. As activity increases, we expect our average pricing levels to remain steady, given that spot pricing levels have remained relatively stable and above lower rate legacy term contracts that continue to roll And to the current pricing environment, in North America's in the North America Solutions segment, we expect direct margins in fiscal Q1 To range between $235,000,000 to $255,000,000 Given that 70% to 75% of our daily costs are labor related, It is typical to see seasonal declines from payroll taxes, etcetera. In general, our operating costs have increased approximately 25% since the end as a result of longer laterals. Labor expenses elevated by 2 inflation adjustments in the past 2 years and supply chain cost inflation. Further, continued rig churn drives cost levels higher. Speaker 200:18:00These increased costs are one of the many reasons we are acutely focused on maintaining recently achieved pricing levels as we Strive to earn appropriate returns on our investments. Regarding our International Solutions segment, We had approximately 13 rigs active at September 30th as expected and sequentially flat from prior quarter. As a reminder, we revised international guidance via our October 18 press release as a result of accelerating some rig commissioning due to timing efficiencies at our Houston facility and due to certain expat labor expenses. Further, we experienced a $4,600,000 foreign Change loss on Argentina pesos and country based on the devaluation of the official exchange rate in the segment which is in the segment results. Separately, we experienced a $12,000,000 investment loss that related to accessing the blue chip Swap effective parallel exchange mechanism in Argentina. Speaker 200:18:59Although we took this investment loss, we were able to repatriate in that $9,800,000 Looking towards the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for the International segment, We expect to idle 1 rig in Argentina mid quarter with all other countries remaining at constant activity levels. Aside from any foreign exchange impacts, we expect to have between $7,000,000 to $10,000,000 direct operating contribution Direct margin contribution in the Q1. Turning to our Offshore Gulf of Mexico segment. As expected, we completed the demobilization of the rig in the 4th Fiscal quarter and now have 3 of our 7 offshore platform rigs contracted. We have management contracts on 3 customer owned rigs, one of which is on active freight. Speaker 200:19:48Offshore generated a drag margin of approximately $7,000,000 during the quarter, which was within our guided range. As we look toward the Q1 of fiscal 2024 for the Offshore Gulf of Mexico segment, we expect that it will generate between $3,000,000 to $7,000,000 of direct margin, which is down sequentially primarily due to the stacking of the aforementioned rig. Now, let me look forward to the 1st fiscal quarter and full fiscal year 2024 for certain consolidated and corporate items. Let me start by reiterating features in our multi pronged approach to capital allocation that John mentioned earlier. Our strategy is to maintain our strong balance sheet together with investment grade credit metrics, to invest in maintaining our market leading North America solutions fleet and to deploy capital to support growth and diversification opportunities internationally with prudent investments in our rig fleet. Speaker 200:20:45Finally, our recently announced 2024 supplemental shareholder plan return plan continues our strategy introduced a year ago to flexibly augment As discussed in our October 18 press release and in yesterday's release, our fiscal 2024 CapEx has 3 buckets: North America, International and Corporate and Information Technology. Our bucket of North America solutions includes maintenance CapEx costs, which are anticipated to push above the high end of the fiscal 2023 range due in part to fiscal year 2023 supply chain delays in capital spending for component equipment refurbishment and recertification that has rolled into fiscal year 2024. Fiscal 2024 maintenance CapEx for Active Rigs should Approximately $1,300,000 to $1,500,000 per active rig based on current bottoms up maintenance facility and supply chain throughput This level of capital intensity has some inflation built in from the last couple of years, but It is also at a projected high point due to continued catch up spending from the 2020 downturn. The international bucket primarily The international bucket partially consists of a planned minor upgrade to 3 rigs in Argentina utilizing funds currently in country to take them to full super spec capacity. We plan to continue converting Slightly over 1 rig per month to walk in capability at our Houston facility, resulting in approximately 14 conversions in fiscal 2024. Speaker 200:22:24These conversions will be split between North America Solutions and International Exports depending on the successful outcomes of Current and anticipated international bids and on U. S. Customer demand at attractive rates and terms. The The final bucket of Corporate and Information Technology consists primarily of enterprise financial and operating system upgrades and rig communications improvements. Depreciation for fiscal 2024 is expected to be approximately $390,000,000 Our sales, general and administrative expenses for the full Bill 24 year expected to approximately $230,000,000 which is up from the prior year. Speaker 200:23:04We have continued to build capabilities to Support the company, including expertise that has aligned pricing with value delivered in North America and in securing initial Middle East international growth. We have also introduced several software as a service solutions to improve our data and analysis in many areas. And finally, we have experienced inflation across many functional areas in 2023 for labor and third party services, for which we will bear the full run rate in Our investment in research and development remains largely focused on solutions for our Customers such as drilling automation, wellbore quality and power management, we anticipate R and D expenditures to be approximately $30,000,000 in 2024. We are expecting an effective income tax rate range of 24% to 29% with the variance above the U. S. Speaker 200:23:57Stat rate of 21% driven by state and foreign Based upon estimated fiscal 'twenty four operating results and CapEx, we are projecting a consolidated cash tax range of $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 Now looking at our financial position. Helmerich and Payne had cash and short term investments of approximately $350,000,000 at September 30, 2023 versus $293,000,000 in June 30. Including availability under our revolving credit facility, our liquidity It remains at approximately $1,100,000,000 As announced in our October press release, subject to ongoing Board approval, We plan to pay supplemental dividends across fiscal 2024 of about $68,000,000 which is approximately 50% of the projected remaining cash flow after CapEx and after our established base dividend. In essence, over 2 thirds of cash flow after CapEx is planned to be returned to shareholders with approximately 1 third remaining As of today, this flexible $68,000,000 unallocated together with our current $350,000,000 cash and short term equivalents on hand Provides us with much flexibility for accretive investments, opportunistic share buybacks and or further supplemental dividends. Future capital allocation plans look to further add to our long standing priority of returning cash to shareholders, increasing to roughly 3.1 That concludes our prepared comments for the 4th fiscal quarter. Speaker 200:25:31Let me now turn the call over to David Creed for questions. Operator00:25:44Keep in mind, you may remove yourself from the question queue at any time by pressing the pound key. We will take our first question from David Smith with Pickering Energy Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 300:25:59Hey, good morning. If you could indulge me for just a second. Speaker 200:26:07David, we can barely hear you if Speaker 400:26:08you can speak up a bit. Operator00:26:14Okay. Is this any better? Speaker 200:26:15Yes. That's much better, Dave. Thank you. Operator00:26:17Okay. Sorry about that. Speaker 300:26:19If you could indulge me for just a second, so I can properly frame the question. I wanted to acknowledge the impressive leadership and success on the pricing discipline, The strong shareholder returns generated, not many companies returning almost 50% of EBITDA to shareholders in 2023. But then I look at the international CapEx program, which I think was around $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 in fiscal 2023. I think it looks closer to $150,000,000 $160,000,000 for fiscal 'twenty four. And I see a segment that generated $25,000,000 of direct margin this last fiscal year. Speaker 300:26:55And just wanted to ask if you can kind of remind us what the investment is targeting in terms of what kind of activity levels You're ultimately targeting the timing to get there. Any other way you might want to frame the international growth aspirations? Speaker 200:27:12Thank you, David. That's a great question. I did want to mention that we do have a lot of aspirational growth internationally. I also wanted to be clear that there are multiple tenders bids that are going on in Multiple countries, really. And so at this stage of the game, we're really not in a position where we want to Give out a lot of information related to that as far as just the details, just for competitive advantages, competitive reasons. Speaker 200:27:54I think in the next couple of months, we'll be able to give quite a bit more color on that. But suffice it to say, our intention is to Continue to invest in the FlexGrid fleet that's here in the U. S. And look to export that capacity international. I might just add a couple of footnotes, David. Speaker 200:28:18Dave, over the long term, obviously, Our goal is to grow the percentage of the corporation's consolidated EBITDA in international by exporting Some of these rigs that are suited for unconventional emerging markets overseas, but we're not giving any specifics related to those targets. It's a long process and we had a couple of key wins that John mentioned in the prepared remarks in Saudi Arabia and Australia They will happen this year, but we're trying to do these investments, obviously, generating returns like the double digit ROIC that we achieved in fiscal 2023 Through time, and as John said, we want to be for competitive reasons, we don't want to talk a lot about specifics with these. Suffice it to say that we have some ongoing current bids and some others that we anticipate coming down the pipeline. And in the near term, we can put some rigs to work in the U. S. Speaker 200:29:18For short term contracts, having these available for longer term export opportunities, Confident that we will generate returns on the investments made. Speaker 300:29:30Great. I appreciate all the color and look forward to The announcements when you're able to make them. If I could sneak a quick follow-up in there, and sorry if I missed this, but just thinking about the fiscal Q1 guidance for North America Solutions with margins, I think the implied daily margin flat to slightly up. Just wondering if you could share your view on how the daily OpEx is impacting the Q1 guidance. Speaker 200:30:03Yes. Dave, appreciate the question. Costs were higher, as we mentioned, in the fiscal Q4. And I would just put it into 3 buckets really for simplification. I think we're over 1100 versus a lot of analyst estimates. Speaker 200:30:20And I would say, call it, 300 of that was related to labor absorption. So with increased rigs, that would come down. Another 200 or so related to the higher materials and supplies, consumption and intensity, which appears to be with us for a bit. But the balance of the rest really are a hodgepodge of other items that should not reoccur. Speaker 300:30:44Okay, great color. I appreciate that. I'll turn it back. Speaker 200:30:48All right, Dave. Thank you. Operator00:30:51We'll take our next question from Kurt Hallead with Benchmark. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:30:58Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:31:00Good morning, Kurt. Speaker 500:31:02Appreciate the color and the commentary. So I'm kind of curious, right, as to the You mentioned expectation for improved activity out into 2024 and those levels of activity will not quite get Back to the highs that were reaching 2023. And then you kind of provided incremental color around 80% plus utilization for super spec rigs. So just kind of curious as to what you're hearing from the E and P client base and Until recently, I guess, it just kind of bled bricks lower. And what's kind of providing the If it is for them maybe to turn things back on going into 2024? Speaker 200:31:56Well, I think if you look at the activity levels during the course of the year, obviously, early on, A lot of the activity declines were related directly to natural gas, natural gas pricing. As we've gone through the year, What we've seen is a lot of churn associated with a lot of different reasons, but whether it's budget Driven, whether it's production driven, a lot of this, Kurt, goes back to the capital discipline that showing E and Ps, our customers are showing, which again I think is healthy for the industry. So in many cases, we're seeing somewhat of a reset in their capital budgets for the next year It is largely what we're seeing. I mean, I think in general, I think consensus Has 40 to 60 rigs on average being added for 2024. And I think that's a reasonable expectation. Speaker 200:33:11And if you look at it as it relates to Our current market share, I think it really fits in with what we're describing for our Q1 fiscal Q4. Speaker 500:33:27Okay. Appreciate that. Now maybe follow-up is, You indicated, right, the substantial efficiency gains in footage drilled and so on, leading to Fewer, I guess, ultimately leading to fewer number of rigs needed by the industry, at least in the U. S. Market Kind of going forward. Speaker 500:33:48So in that context, it seems to me that part of that is playing into your strategy Pursue some of these international opportunities. Am I reading too much into that? Speaker 200:34:01No, I think that's fair. I mean, there's no doubt that we have A desire to grow our international footprint. As we all know, when you talk about U. S. Activity in U. Speaker 200:34:17S. Production and what's currently going on, as we know, production levels are not Fairly directly aligned with the current rig count that we're experiencing. And there's we've seen it Previously. But we have capacity here in the U. S. Speaker 200:34:39To export flux Market. So that's been one of our strategies for the last couple of years and we're starting to see, as I said earlier, we're starting to see A lot more activity, a lot more bids out there to participate in. And so again, we're encouraged by that. But I think it's also important to recognize that it's very, very hard to predict rig counts and activity Out multiple years, much less a couple of quarters, as you know. We had fully intended to get our rig count to 191 During 2023, we got up to around 187 or so, and then of course, we had a market correction that we've all experienced. Speaker 200:35:27And so that can happen out of left field. Who knows what happens when natural gas prices Strengthen in 2024, 2025 timeframe. So it's a There's a lot of time left ahead of us. But clearly, to your original point, we're definitely planning to grow internationally. Speaker 500:35:50Got it. That's great. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:53Thanks, Kurt. Operator00:35:57We'll take our next Question from wakar saeed with ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:36:05Thank you for taking my question And good morning. Your performance based contracts have been running for Good to see the first question is going. If you look back over the last year, year Speaker 500:36:21and a half, how much do you think The Speaker 400:36:24performance based contracts have added to the underlying day rate driven margins. Speaker 200:36:321,000 to 2,000 per day on average when those bonuses are added in and averaged back. And that's on a Averaged out on a per rig. Yes. So it's double that on the rigs that are that actually have performance based Contracts. Speaker 400:36:51Okay, okay. So that's so it's been pretty in line with what your expectations were going in? Speaker 500:37:01Bakar, Speaker 200:37:05we're pleased with where we are. We think we have Additional progress to make on the performance based contracts, I think it makes that model Really makes too much sense for what's going on in our market The wells and the need to be more reliable and drill longer laterals, all of that, I think it makes a lot of sense and particularly when you're deploying additional Technology and capacity and automation and things like that. So I think there's still further growth in terms of percentage of our rigs and I think there's the potential growth on the additional margin That we're delivering just based on how we continue to improve and how that compares to Competitor performance. So I've said this before, do I think we're going to have ever have 100% of our rigs on performance? No, I don't necessarily think that. Speaker 200:38:07But it wasn't that long ago that we were at, oh gosh, probably 10%, 15% of our fleet and today we're at 52% and we're starting to see some additional growth with performance based contracts. So We're encouraged by the opportunity. Speaker 400:38:26Okay. And then your capital allocation framework that you've Sure. And then your supplemental dividends, regular dividends and CapEx guidance. So if we reverse engineer from there to the Expectations of EBITDA, I think consensus right now for fiscal year 2024 is about $872,000,000 So you feel comfortable with that consensus range and maybe upside a little bit there as well in your guidance Okay. The capital allocation guidance? Speaker 200:39:00Ricard, really no further comment To the numbers we put out to do the math. Speaker 400:39:08You're leaving the hard work Speaker 200:39:10for us then. Yes, sir. Speaker 400:39:16And then just finally, the U. S. Offshore, anything Kind of out there, which could increase or decrease the active count further? Speaker 200:39:29Well, as we mentioned offshore, we had the 1 rig that demobilized the stack as expected. And our sales team does have a line of sight to a couple of potential opportunities that could occur in the back half of the fiscal year, But nothing definitive on that. Speaker 400:39:47Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:39:51Thanks, Sarkar. Operator00:39:54We'll take our next question from Keith McKay with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 600:40:02Hi, good morning. Just looking back over the last year, certainly in the U. S. Rig counts have come down, Day rates came off of the leading edge peak that we saw late last year, early this year. But I think things have probably held in from a rate perspective more stable than a lot would have expected given The amount of rigs that have come out of the industry for now, so I guess the first part of the question is, would you agree with that? Speaker 600:40:35And the second part is, what if anything has surprised you about how the industry has responded to decrease in demand over the last year. Would you have expected things to be yourselves to be much worse than this or much better? Or any comments around that would be appreciated. Speaker 200:40:56Well, I'll start with the last part of Your question, I think when you consider, and I mentioned this earlier, the pullback in gas prices And the activity associated with that, I don't think that part is a surprise to us or really to anyone. And I think there's I think the oil side of the equation is probably a little Maybe a little bit more surprising, but it goes back to that theme that we mentioned related to churn. It's amazing the amount of whether it's private or public, mostly I think related to privates, but There's just a continuous churn of rigs getting released and getting put back to work. Our sales force is doing a great job With that and that leads into the pricing. And at the end of the day, We worked very hard to partner with our customers to deliver the highest level of efficiency and value As possible and doing it in a very consistent way. Speaker 200:42:10And that's worth a lot. And we hear that from Customers day in and day out that reliability and being able to drill those wells effectively and efficiently is worth a lot. And so, again, it starts with as I said earlier, it starts with our customers and that's being More disciplined in terms of their spending and that is really puts a requirement on us to do the same thing and just making certain that we're getting A return for the capital that we're investing, as you know, it's a high capital intensive business, drilling is, And we're investing a lot of money and we have great people and great technology and we've got to get I might just add to that, Keith, that in the way I another way to think about it Speaker 400:43:05is if you I can't Speaker 200:43:06speak to our competitors. I can only speak for H and P. But if you go back to the beginning of calendar 2022, we said we're going to limit the amount of rigs we're putting out. We're going to focus on our pricing, so that we can get the returns John just mentioned. And the rehearsals have been this year. Speaker 200:43:22We've been focused on the pricing and we've taken the decision to idle rigs to maintain that. So that is really A different way of operating in the last couple of years, both in the scenario with rigs going up and then this year with rigs coming down, but the same laser focus on what we need to do to generate returns for our shareholders. Speaker 600:43:43Yes. I appreciate that. Just secondly, on the international tenders, now I know you're not going to want to disclose too much here, but Is there anything you can share with respect to the magnitude of tenders? What potential Amount of rig activity in terms of a range you could see from the amount of tenders you're participating in or whether the amount of tenders are appear to be speeding up or slowing down? Any commentary around that would be helpful. Speaker 200:44:19Pete, I think I was thinking through this last night, not an exact number, but I mean there Yes, there's 15 to 20, 25 rigs worth of tenders That we're aware of and I know there's probably more. But we also know firsthand that Growth internationally tends to be pretty slow. So we're sure not putting any number out there On a percentage of that rig count or the number of rigs that we might be successful with. There's a lot of work. Our teams are working really hard to make this happen. Speaker 200:45:02So hopefully, more to come in the upcoming quarters. We're announcing some success. But At this stage, there's really not a whole lot more than that, that I can say, Mark, unless you have any other. No. And what you're referencing is just Current things that we're in active discussions. Speaker 200:45:21Active discussions in multiple countries. So it's not just one country, it's multiple Countries and the bid processes take quite some time and then the rigs actually go to work is Another 6 or 12 or 14 months even past that. So just it's very hard to put any sort of a number to it. So to that last point, John, I would We would expect to see this positively in our P and L and more likely fiscal 2025. 2025, yes. Speaker 600:45:58Got it. Okay. That's it for me. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:46:01All right. Thank you. Operator00:46:05We'll take our next question from Marc Bianchi with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 700:46:13Thanks. I think, Mark, in your remarks, you mentioned that there were some lower priced rigs in The backlog of your current contract book, could you help us understand what the opportunity is to reprice those? Maybe If we were to mark everything to the leading edge today, what that would mean for revenue per day? Speaker 200:46:40No. But there is some I think in the tables at the back of the press release, you can see a bit about What's under term and get some indication of that. We have some repricing now, which will help us more in Fiscal Q2, frankly, and then I think we have another batch rollovers in Q2. Speaker 700:46:59Okay. And the press release made a comment about Not taking much of an increase for utilization to get really tight. And I think, John, you had sort of Thought that the 40 to 60 rig add for 24 is reasonable. It would seem like Less than that number would be required for utilization to get really tight and we could start to see some pricing power. Any thoughts More specifically, how many rigs it's going to take and when we might start to see some upward movement in leading edge? Speaker 200:47:33Mark, Again, I would argue that the market is pretty tight right now. And again, we tend to Kind of be focused only on the super spec fleet. That's the rig fleet that we have working. And so that is already Really tight. So I agree with you. Speaker 200:47:55The 40 to 60 reference is really not necessarily super spec. That's kind of an industry rig count increase. Although we continue to see as an industry more and more super spec capacity requirement, Less of the non super spec. So we think that's going to trend. So I would quite frankly, I would say there's pricing Power in the market right now just based on what we see. Speaker 200:48:23So any additional net adds is just going to make that a tighter market, which is again, why we had that. It's just Make that clear. Speaker 500:48:38Yes. Okay. That's great. Speaker 700:48:39If I could just sneak one more in for Mark. The cash tax outlook It implies quite a bit higher than what it looks like your book tax ought to be. Is Is this level of cash taxes something we should be assuming going forward? Or should we be assuming that your cash taxes Quite a bit above your book tax for several more years here? Speaker 200:49:04No, I think we have it's around $25,000,000 or so of 2023 taxes are going to be actually payable in 2024. Speaker 700:49:16Okay. So that's driving Speaker 200:49:18So that cash tax amount is not purely related to 24. We're expecting the same as you saw from the range. We had a 27% effective tax rate this year and it's really that's the midpoint of next year's range as well. Speaker 700:49:31Right. Speaker 200:49:31Okay. It's just timing differences as to when we actually make the payments. Speaker 500:49:36Yes. Okay. Thank you. I'll turn it back. Speaker 200:49:39Yes. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:49:42We'll take our next Question from Tom Curran with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 300:49:50Good morning, guys. Just one left for me, but it's kind Speaker 800:49:53of a bigger open ended one. So as you endeavor to remain the industry's technology and innovation leader, What role do you foresee M and A playing over, say, the next year or 2? In the last scale up cycle, you did 4 acquisitions over 2017 through 2019 Motive, MagVar, AGC and Drillscan, just what is your appetite and approach to M and A now? And What specific capabilities or themes would you be prioritizing for a bolder fund, be it drilling optimization software, automation advancement, some other topic. Speaker 200:50:31Tom, that's a great question. And I feel really good about the acquisitions that we made and the value that we're Delivering helping deliver for customers. And I don't really see a gap in our portfolio on what we have. I feel really good about it. There are a lot of things that we continue to make advances on The automated directional drilling is continuing To progress, there's other things that we're working on to automate and those skill sets and capabilities really lend themselves to being able to do more, Not only downhole, but also on the rig itself. Speaker 200:51:21So I feel really good About where we are and what we have and the team that we have, we've been very fortunate to retain a lot of That brainpower that from the acquisitions that we made, so I feel really good about that. I don't know of any other gaps that we have. So John, it sounds as Speaker 800:51:46if I'm hearing you correctly that Speaker 300:51:48you would expect To be able Speaker 800:51:50to achieve this next chapter of development organically via R and D with the existing platform in place technologically. Speaker 200:52:01Yes. Yes, it's a good way to summarize it. I think we have the skill set and I think we have The capability in house for what we're doing. Obviously, there are always opportunities to go out and do things with other third parties, but I don't think that requires necessarily M and A in order to do that. I think that can be done with the relationships that we currently have. Speaker 100:52:32Got it. Speaker 800:52:33Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:52:35All right. Thank you. Operator00:52:39And we'll take our next Question from Abhi Madhuk with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 900:52:46Hi, good morning, team. You mentioned some cost acceleration of equipment that was left visible and you gave some color there, so really appreciate that. But curious if that Changes or is baked into your normalized margin expectations at 50% longer term, how should we think about that? Speaker 200:53:03I'm sorry, Adi. Could you repeat that question? Yes. You broke up on us just a little bit. Can you Speaker 900:53:12Yes, for sure. Hopefully, this is better. Just on the cost acceleration of equipment, is that baked into your normalized margin Expectations at 50% or does that change that expectation in the near term, longer term, how should we think about that? Speaker 200:53:27I think you're talking about something in the international segment. That's the only thing that was accelerated that we mentioned, not North America Health. Is that what you're talking about? Speaker 900:53:39I thought you mentioned some FlexRig equipment acceleration and inflation. I thought that was in North America. Yes. You're Speaker 200:53:48We got it. I'm sorry for that. The service intensity, yes, it is built in. It is very hard To determine exactly how that continues to progress because costs Do continue to increase, not only because of inflation, but because of service intensity and equipment running harder And longer and delivering more volume. So yes, there is but that is baked Into our margin? Speaker 200:54:26It is, yes. Speaker 900:54:28Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. And then you mentioned some Tenders ongoing and I understand the color might be difficult there. But as you think about accelerating some of these deployment plans in the international Market or the International segment, how should we think about the cadence of the margin in 2024? Speaker 200:54:49Well, that's it's just going to be we don't know yet. You saw the guide For this quarter's international expectations and if the countries hold flat, that's the level of margin we would anticipate Throughout the year, notwithstanding the successful outcomes of any of these bidding processes, which would cause us to incur expenses for final recommissioning and shipping charges. So it's just to be determined Based on the processes for bidding, which as John stated earlier, really sort of happen Slowly and in a very unique bid to bid. So there yes, it's If successful, like Mark said, most of that will push into 2025. There are a few countries that we could have some rigs that would deploy in 2024, but it's going to probably be more towards the back half, so it's not going to have a large impact on 2024 numbers. Speaker 200:55:58Well, it won't have any revenue for 2024, but it's Operator00:56:12And I'll now turn the call back to John Lindsay for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:56:16Thank you, David, and thanks again, everybody, for joining us today. As we said earlier, we remain optimistic about the long term energy fundamentals. We think there's a lot of opportunities out there that H and P can take advantage of and use to create value for shareholders. So thank you again for joining us today and we'll sign off.Read morePowered by