Stereotaxis Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 9, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. Thank you for joining us for Stereotaxis Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Certain statements during the conference call and question and answer period to follow may relate to future events, expectations and as such constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause the results, performance or achievements of the company in the future to be materially different from the statements that the company's executives may make today. These risks are described in detail in our public filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our latest periodic report on Form 10 ks or 10 Q.

Operator

We assume no duty to update these statements. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen only mode. The floor will be opened for questions and comments following the presentation. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Call.

Operator

It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, David Fischel, Chairman and CEO of Stereotaxis.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We are continuing to make significant progress in our efforts to deliver commercial results, call may drive our comprehensive innovation strategy towards commercialization and maintain financial discipline. On the commercial front, our revenue in the quarter continued to benefit from the adoption of Genesis by both greenfield new accounts and existing upgrade customers. We recognized revenue on 2 Genesis robotic systems in the quarter. Our system backlog and the pipeline of engaged customers supports this pace of system revenue in the coming quarters and the potential for growth beyond it.

Speaker 1

Call. Net effect of revenue recognition and system orders drew down current system backlog to $13,000,000 We have seen several tenders and contracts advance nicely in recent weeks and expect to end the year with multiple additional orders. We're seeing particular strength in capital activity out of Europe, where we seem to be benefiting from our enhanced commercial leadership and team, questions include a number of factors in newer fluoroscopy solutions and greater market appreciation for the upcoming availability of our innovations, including Magic, call, Mapping Integrations and Vascular Devices. In contrast, we have seen several projects in China delayed and the countrywide anti corruption drive seems to have broadly frozen hospital capital purchasing activity. The contributions and growth in system revenue has allowed us to demonstrate year over year revenue growth despite the loss royalty revenue, which we stopped receiving at the start of this year.

Speaker 1

The loss of royalty revenue has remained the primary drag on our recurring revenue, call, we continue to see residual pressure on procedures from the catheter shortage J and J had in the first half of this year and their competitive behavior. This pressure from our technological and commercial dependency reinforces the importance of bringing our innovation strategy to market. We are actively driving our broad based comprehensive innovation strategy forward. Call. As a reminder, our innovation strategy includes a proprietary ablation catheter called MAGIC, a smaller self shielding robot that and the benefits of our robots into new endovascular indications, a digital surgery hardware and software offering enabling broad operating room connectivity and a full electrophysiology product ecosystem for China being built in collaboration with MicroPort.

Speaker 1

A European clinical study of MAGIC is awaiting approval to enroll patients in the near term. We submitted all the required clinical trial documentation and questions are subject to the national health authorities and hospitals at 3 separate sites in Europe. We are supposed to receive responses from each of these 3 national authorities questions between mid November mid December, at which point patient enrollment should follow shortly thereafter. While we only need data from 20 patients at one site questions are subject to resubmit Magic for CE Mark regulatory approval. We are advancing these 3 sites in parallel to reduce the risk of delays at any one site and allow for more comprehensive clinical experience and data collection that will support the commercial launch of MAGIC.

Speaker 1

Shifting to the U. S, on our last call, we mentioned exploring alternative regulatory paths for MAGIC with the FDA with an intent to accelerate access for U. S. Physicians and patients. Call may be subject to the appropriate access for U.

Speaker 1

S. Physicians and patients. We determined that it would be reasonable to submit a PMA supplement submission in the U. S. For Magic using our existing data.

Speaker 1

We plan to make the submission prior to year end and FDA then has 180 days to respond. While there are no guarantees with any regulatory submission, call. Given the discussions we have had, we believe there is merit to this approach, which could significantly accelerate availability of Magic to the physicians and patients that would benefit from it. Magic offers significant clinical, commercial, financial and strategic benefits to Stereotaxis. Its adoption will benefit from our expanding integration with Abbott's N site mapping system.

Speaker 1

Call. After announcing our collaboration at the Heart Rhythm Society Conference and celebrating the 1st joint procedures in Europe this summer, We were pleased to announce the 1st joint procedures last month in the U. S. At multiple highly prestigious hospitals. The availability of NSAID integration in both Europe and the U.

Speaker 1

S. Provides our physicians with increased choice and improved workflow and procedure experience. We anticipate a continued shift and diversification towards Abbott's Encyte System with a significant boost in joint adoption concurrent with the Magic launch. Our second key innovation effort include the development of a smaller self shielding robot that significantly enhances the accessibility of robotics. We discussed on the last call are balanced approach to the timing of a regulatory submission, such that approval of the robot aligns approximately call will be recorded with market availability of either Magic or Magnetic Guidewires.

Speaker 1

We currently plan to make the submission in the Q1 questions at around the same time as when we will submit the Magic CE Mark application. This should lead to the robot having regulatory clearance call, prior to a compatible interventional catheter or wire being available, and we are using this time prior to submission questions are subject to continuously refine the system and to require regulatory testing. Our experience selling Genesis gives us daily visibility question to the timeline shifts and hospital construction delays that slow adoption even at sites that are most motivated to build a robotic program. This experience reinforces our confidence that the availability of a much more accessible robot, something that can be installed without construction, will serve as a significant structural improvement to the pace and scale of adoption. Our 3rd key innovation effort question is expanding the clinical use of our robotic platform beyond electrophysiology to a range of challenging endovascular procedures, including the treatment of stroke, heart disease, peripheral vascular disease and cancer.

Speaker 1

We have been working hard to develop the right interventional devices, and call the call to questions. Thank you, operator. Thank you, questions. Our ChemTrex manufacturer faced various challenges in transitioning from building good prototypes to being able to actually build devices with the quality, consistency and scale that would be necessary for regulatory approval and commercialization. We seem to have overcome the last challenge in that manufacturing process and expect to spend the next few months building the over 1,000 guide wires needed for formal regulatory testing.

Speaker 1

Questions. We now expect a 510 submission during the Q2 of 2024. The combination of a highly call. Call and call and answer session. Thank you, operator.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Thank you, operator. Thank you, operator. Thank you, operator. Call, we are making broad methodical progress across the late stages of this comprehensive innovation strategy.

Speaker 1

Call. Kim will now provide commentary on our financial results, and then I'll make a few financial comments as well before opening the call to Q and A. Kim?

Speaker 2

Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. Revenue for the Q3 of 2023 totaled $7,800,000 questions may offset discontinued royalties from Johnson and Johnson. System revenue of $3,500,000 reflects revenue call and call for questions. Recurring revenue for the quarter of 4,300,000 was predominantly impacted by the absence of the J and J royalties and residual pressure on procedures. Gross margin for the Q3 Q3 was 52% of revenue with recurring revenue gross margin of 80% and system gross margin of 18%.

Speaker 2

Recurring revenue gross margin remains consistent with recent quarters and system gross margins continue to reflect significant allocation of overhead expenses include over low manufacturing volume. Operating expenses in the quarter of $9,700,000 include $2,600,000 in non cash stock compensation expense. Excluding stock compensation expense, adjusted operating expenses were 7,100,000 call, compared to the prior year's adjusted operating expenses of $6,900,000 Operating loss call and call

Speaker 1

and answer session.

Speaker 2

Net loss in the Q3 were $5,600,000 $5,400,000 compared to $5,100,000 $4,900,000 in the previous year. Questions. Adjusted operating loss and net loss for the Q3, excluding non cash stock compensation expense, call were $3,000,000 $2,800,000 Negative free cash flow for the Q3 was 1,000,000 The reduced use of cash flow benefited from continued attention to targeted expense reductions and the build up in inventory from previous quarters. At the end of the Q3, we had cash and cash equivalents of 23,000,000 and no debt. We expect to end the year with $22,000,000 in cash and no debt.

Speaker 2

I will now hand the call back to David.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Kim. We remain cognizant of the importance of maintaining financial strength, call, particularly in the current macro environment. We are pleased with our ability to deliver commercial results and advance our robust innovation strategy, call, while maintaining financial discipline. We are confident in our ability to advance our innovation strategy to market, fund its commercialization and reach profitability without the need for additional financings. Before opening the call to questions, I want to take a moment on a questions may be recorded.

Speaker 1

We have several investors, partners and stakeholders questions are impacted by the tragedy and ongoing war. We share in their grief, wish them and their loved ones safety in the coming weeks, call. Pray for the quick return of the kidnapped hostages and pray for the safety and success of those battling a barbarism and evil that threatens our shared humanity. We will now take your questions. Operator, can you please open the line to Q and A?

Operator

And please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Neil Chatterjee with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

And Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe just on Europe, you mentioned kind of the new leadership there. Just curious question, what maybe they're doing differently there to maybe drive increased activity or interest there?

Speaker 1

Hi, Neil. Good morning. So yes, it's been very nice seeing the pace of activity in Europe. In the prepared remarks, I mentioned that we have several tenders or processes that have been moving forward fairly in the fairly late stages now there. And I think it is a mix.

Speaker 1

There's obviously product ecosystem aspects that are at play as near term approval of Magic and kind of anticipation of that among the physician base. And questions. Also kind of we have a new X-ray solution that's available in Europe that's helpful. But I think that Frank, who we brought on to the team a year ago, he's now gotten fully in stride in the business there. And there is a type of just discipline and process That is beneficial to things.

Speaker 1

And so it has been beautiful watching him and the team broadly work there. And And we're seeing it across the region from different countries, all from the west to the east, south to the north. So it's Really kind of been across Europe, there seems to be much more activity going on now than in historical years.

Speaker 3

Great. And then maybe just one follow-up. I mean, just more broadly for the sales funnel, What are you maybe seeing in terms of just the greenfield side versus replacement?

Speaker 1

I think that Still we have the replacement side is a natural easier contributor given we have those relationships and questions and that just makes it kind of a much more natural, easy process. On the greenfield side, I think we still have a lot of work to do as a company to build the top of funnel and to create visibility on our technology in the marketplace. Questions. We still remain largely unknown or known only based on our reputation from 10 plus years ago in the marketplace, and that's something that we have to work to address. As still a small, small player in this field, that's something that will Multiple sites globally, obviously in China, the vast majority of the interest and question is greenfield, given that we have a very small existing installed base there.

Speaker 1

I'd say that that actually is going very nice in terms questions in the macro situation there, the political situation there. And in Europe, it is fairly mixed between Greenfield and replacement cycle, I'd say the U. S. Is probably still slightly more replacement cycle than greenfield.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adam Maeder with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hi, guys. Good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. Wanted to start with 1 on the forward expectations and some of the language. I didn't see you reiterate an expectation of double digit revenue growth in 2023, but did see a comment of continued revenue growth in coming quarters.

Speaker 4

Questions can you square the 2 for us and perhaps there's no change and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but just wanted to ask for clarification there. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Yes. Hi, Adam. Good morning. So given where we stand and I think that questions. We are confident in growth in the coming quarters, including the Q4, obviously.

Speaker 1

And we are not certain that we will reach annualized double digit revenue growth based on our results in the 4th quarter. So I think that it would be better to model year over year revenue growth in each of the coming quarters rather than the 4th quarter being a blowout quarter. Obviously, it can be impacted by 1 revenue recognition and question comes from the line of Alex. And so I just think it's better to focus on revenue growth in the Q4 rather than year over year Double digit revenue growth for the entire year.

Speaker 4

I got it. Okay. And it just that's helpful color, David. And maybe just to

Speaker 1

I wouldn't expect continued pressure on the disposable side. I think on the Q3, we do have continued questions are not included in the call from the competitive situation with Johnson and Johnson and the catheter shortages that existed. And But I don't think that you should I think you should view that as a nadir on the recurring revenue side. So I wouldn't expect Additional pressure there, the 3rd quarter is also naturally light, just given the summer holidays in some of the geographies. But on the capital side, I think that that I wouldn't model

Speaker 4

that. Okay, very helpful. Thank you for that. And I guess I wanted to flip over to the update on Magic and U. S.

Speaker 4

Kind of regulatory strategy. And I was just hoping to get some more color on the decision questions are not subject to use the PMA supplement route and just ask about the level of confidence and the successful outcome. I think previously you're planning on running an IDE study. So how did you get comfortable that this is the right strategy and that a trial is no longer needed? What can you share from your discussions with FDA that kind of led to this change in strategy?

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Speaker 1

Sure. It's probably not appropriate at this stage to share much more than what we did in the prepared remarks and or to speculate that much, we had mentioned previously being in dialogue with FDA questions are on potential paths for Magic. Given those discussions and we had advisors as well consultants as well and question and answer session users as well in some of those discussions, we felt it would be reasonable to submit a PMA supplement call using our existing data. There is obviously no guarantee with any regulatory submission, but we believe there is good merit to our approach. And with the filing before year end, we will get feedback or a decision from by the middle of next year, which is a relatively quick turnaround process.

Speaker 1

In the interim, we'll obviously be collecting human data from our trial in Europe, questions, which will enroll beyond just the number of patients needed for CE Mark submission. So having the 3 sites in Europe allows questions are showing beyond what is just needed for the CE Mark submission. And so overall, we think that the strategy is one that may significantly accelerate questions are related to the technology for U. S. Physicians and patients, and we think it's one that makes a lot of sense to do.

Speaker 1

So I think kind of that's all that's probably right to say at this stage.

Speaker 4

Yes, understood. No, that's helpful color. Thank you, David.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Adam.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to just follow-up on Adam's question and ask, are you taking parallel paths Looking at submission without a data set and then also planning on the clinical trial in case that pathway

Speaker 1

Hi, Josh. Good morning. And I think that the data that we collect in Europe has an opportunity to be very helpful. And And so there is awareness that depending on how the review of the PMA supplement goes, questions. There are ways to enhance the PMA supplement and still keep it as a PMA supplement with ENHANZE data.

Speaker 1

And so I think that, That is definitely something that we have had in mind, and I think that it is something that would be reasonable and accepted. And at the end of the day, it depends on obviously and on the submission overall and the strength of that submission, but the PMA supplement approach is one that carries significant advantages and questions, and again, which has merit based on all of our discussions and understanding.

Speaker 5

Understood. And I wanted to ask just about the replacement cycle. And Any sense you can help us out just what percentage of the installed base is approaching 10 years or 10 years plus? And And is this segment sizable and does it represent the low hanging fruit within the replacement channel? And is that where your sales force is focused and questions

Speaker 1

are So by now the majority, I'd say a significant majority of our installed base and questions have been answered. I think that there is still this extension of the question is from the life of EP Labs where we have now seen multiple labs that are 14, 15. I think even now we have a lab that is 16 years old and they have not yet gone through with the replacement of their lab. And so this breaks from all historical precedents From what we hear from X-ray manufacturers and other equipment, but it definitely seems like that is the case. What we see if you look at companies like Intuitive Surgical, they seem to be able to drive a replacement cycle and much questions are tied at our construction process still at this stage and very much tied to the x-ray that is in the lab.

Speaker 1

It's very hard for us to drive a replacement cycle different from the replacement cycle of an x-ray. It's just that it would require still a shutdown of the lab, architectural planning, contractors, construction. And And so if you do that, you very much should be exchanging the X-ray at the same time. And so that's where there have been a couple cases where the robot has driven the cycle, But for the most part, it's been driven by the X-ray timing and the hospital's plan to replace the X-ray. I think as you see us evolve I think that we kind of free ourselves from that timeline and given the pace of innovation that we've been doing on the robot side, whereas you see almost every and questions.

Speaker 1

At 3, 4, 5 years, we are able to come out with a new robot. I think that we will be able to drive replacement cycles at a much, much quicker place than 10 year to 15 year timeline that seems to exist right now. But right now, we do have The majority of our sites are over 10 years now in age and so are very much ripe for a replacement,

Speaker 6

All right. Great. Good morning, everyone. So how quickly can you collect the data in Europe on the 3 to 3 sites? And question, what are the number of patients per site?

Speaker 6

Is it 20 per site?

Speaker 1

Hi, Alex. Good morning. So we the trial is structured Such that we can capture the acute clinical data from 20 patients as soon as that is available and that will then be submitted for as part of the CE Mark resubmission, we are able to enroll questions are going to be answered. Okay. And then, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions.

Speaker 1

Okay. And then, I'll turn the call over to questions are posted on the call. So we will probably use the same protocol to enroll patients after we have CE Mark approval at additional sites. But we really focus on these three sites questions that are very experienced and were able to move in a relatively fast fashion through the ethics committee approvals and questions that work with us on the national submission. And so it's I would kind of see that we will obviously work most expediently to enroll the 20 patients and then we'll probably go up till 30 patients at each of these three sites.

Speaker 6

Okay. That makes sense. But reading through all the commentary probably sounds like you'll have that data in hand first quarter, Certainly before you get feedback from the FDA. Yes. Okay.

Speaker 6

All right. No, that's perfect. And question.

Speaker 1

And then

Speaker 6

on the Gen 3 system, the mobile robot, can you maybe update us on the internal work? I know there's always kind of constant improvement you can do before you submit to the FDA and questions. So just some of the internal work you've been doing there. And then just remind us, when could we see a launch? And is the launch kind of predicated a little bit on Magic approval as well.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes, sure. So, yes, when you look at a robotic system, These are complex, complex systems with the requirement of macro hardware, micro hardware, electronics, and firmware on the Board, control software, UI software, all working very, very well together. And it's that complexity which leads to most companies not being able to really develop surgical robots. And questions. And as you've seen, obviously, in the field, there's companies that have spent 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of dollars and are still not developed surgical robots.

Speaker 1

So it is a tough technical hurdle to build robotic surgical systems that actually can work well, reliably, robustly in the real world environment. We've obviously demonstrated now that capability with for many years. We've gone through as we go When I talk about we use the word refinement, there's various ways to refine the electronics of the system, and the tolerance of the mechanical aspects of the system, the control software where you have a system that can work very well, but as you go through more and more refinements, you find and address potential edge cases where you would otherwise have more failures in the field and you would have to work harder During the manufacturing and during the installation and during the continued maintenance phases to keep the system running well. And we have, I believe, very top tier gross margins on our service contracts, as you see from our financial financial statements and we want to maintain those and it's through those kind of refinements and continuing to make the products better and better that you can have that type of good performance of the product in the field, which is obviously beneficial for our customers and beneficial for us.

Speaker 1

And so I think that's the way to kind of to think about what questions that we continue to do that also post commercialization. So the Genesis system has gone through multiple refinements over the last few years. And so that's kind of a healthy thing to do. From a commercial launch perspective, with a submission in the Q1, we would expect to have questions are very rapidly post submission and we would expect to have questions, FDA 510 approval, probably a reasonable timeline is within about 6 months and given the experience that we had with Genesis and given our kind of comfort with overall that process and it's a 510 submission. So I think kind of that's our overall expectation for regulatory approvals.

Speaker 1

And And you are correct that we need either the MAGIC catheter or our Guidewire or Guidewire catheter for vascular procedures questions are not yet to be approved. So the interventional devices that we are developing are all backwards compatible with Genesis Systems and Niobe Systems. But the new robot that is that does not require construction does depend on having these new interventional devices on market and that has led to some of the decision making on when to advance that robot towards approval, towards a submission.

Speaker 6

All right. Excellent. Very helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Frank Tikhonnen with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping you could talk a little bit to some of the events that would occur questions following clearance or approval of the catheter, namely manufacturing capability. I believe that's on your partner there, but questions are they prepared when that occurs to scale up manufacturing, if I'm right in remembering that? And then second, how should we think about any commercial organization changes after that event.

Speaker 1

Sure. Hi, Frank. Good morning. So you're right, Osipco, which is a German company and is our contract manufacturer and partner in the Magic Acetor. And they are the ones that are ramping up the questions are answered by the regulatory testing, and we are working with them to make sure that they are in a good place questions for manufacturing for the commercialization, we want to have several 100 catheters available in inventory, finished goods inventory upon regulatory approval, and so we're working with them to make sure that is possible.

Speaker 1

And And then as I think every manufacturing scale up is obviously and questions are not in effort and requires attention and is difficult. These are complex devices, Class III devices with significant regulatory burden as well. And but Assupica is a professional organization. They have many, many years of experience manufacturing thousands upon thousands and questions are not available. And so I think we have a good partner there that has that experience and has From a commercial team perspective, I think I've mentioned in the past that we currently operate, questions that our commercial teams operate with in some ways a hand behind their back.

Speaker 1

We typically have one and many of our competitors in the EP space have one sales rep per hospital, if not even more. And questions. And so that is something that is structurally we're at a weakness to. And going to that type of model with our current revenue structure would be not financially sustainable in the long term. And so we could increase revenue, but it would come at the detriment of the bottom line.

Speaker 1

And questions. And so as we bring the magic catheter to market and we shift from making on average roughly $1,000 per procedure call our coverage in the field and to enhance and increase our sales team fairly significantly. So I think we've mentioned in the past and that still is a plan and questions are answered that as magic comes to market, we will move much more towards the model of 1 person per hospital account and that can be done in a very financially sustainable fashion. And so it obviously carries benefits both to the top line and to the bottom line to do that.

Speaker 7

Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe for my second one, I think we touched on a lot of these individual points, but hoping you could cover it in detail start to finish, but looking to get an update on the capital markets or capital equipment sales market. Clearly, it's tougher in a higher interest rate environment, but what are you hearing out there right now for the orders that are in the funnel, hoping to convert soon? And is there any, inclination for them to wait for the mobile robot or is that really not quite on their radar yet?

Speaker 1

I think that we've done a relatively good job and question is in bifurcating hospital awareness between the Genesis system and the mobile robots. So there are a few cases where that has come into play or where we've discussed it proactively with a hospital where it makes sense. But generally, I think we've done a reasonably good job in bifurcating that awareness and channeling to people who are appropriate to channel to the Genesis system. I think we are it is still a headwind call the macro environment overall. So we've been operating now for a few years in this macro headwind environment.

Speaker 1

That said, I think we're still we still have a huge amount of opportunity ahead of us. We still have very small market share. And so we're able to find opportunities. And I'd say that we are advancing multiple of them and questions are kind of through late stages of contract negotiation. So overall, that feels good that we're able to make progress despite that headwind environment.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to David Fischel for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you all for your questions. We appreciate your continued support and wish everyone a healthy and peaceful end to the year.

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