REV Group Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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December 13, 2023

There are 4 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the REV Group 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Drew Conop, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning and thanks for joining us. Earlier today, we issued our Q4 and full year fiscal 2023 results. A copy of the release is available on our website at investors. Revgroup.com. Today's call is being webcast The slide presentation, which includes a reconciliation of non GAAP to GAAP financial measures is available on our website.

Speaker 1

Please refer now to Slide 2 of that presentation. Our remarks and answers will include forward looking statements, which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. These risks include, among others, matters that we've described in our Form 8 ks filed with the SEC earlier today and other filings that we make with the SEC. We disclaim any obligation to update these forward looking statements, which may not be updated until our next quarterly earnings conference call, Yes, at all. All references on this call to a quarter or year are to our fiscal quarter or fiscal year unless otherwise stated.

Speaker 1

Joining me on the call today is our President and CEO, Mark Skonechny. Please turn to Slide 3, and I'll turn the call over to Mark. Thank you, Drew, and good morning to everyone joining us on today's call. This morning, I'll provide an overview of the year's commercial, operational and strategic achievements, including full year financial highlights and our consolidated 4th quarter performance. I will then go over the detailed segment financials.

Speaker 1

First off, I would like to thank our employees for their hard work and dedication over the past year. Their commitment to the initiatives we have been To improve operations and our financial performance are apparent in the results we reported earlier today. Throughout the year, we delivered year over year and Sequential improvements that resulted in the 6 year high and full year adjusted EBITDA, and I want to recognize the individuals in our manufacturing facilities That are getting the job done on a daily basis. Municipal end markets remain robust and we exited the year with a record $4,500,000,000 backlog Driven by strength in the Fire and Emergency segment, elevated demand for both fire apparatus and ambulance Resulted in a quarterly order intake record within fiscal 2023 for each of the fire and the ambulance groups. While demand for units has remained above historic trends for each of these businesses, backlog revenue has also benefited from pricing actions put in place over the past 2 years.

Speaker 1

We believe improved execution, higher selling prices and the reliability of our $3,600,000,000 F and E backlog, Which is largely municipal tax pay positions us well for 2024. Fiscal 2023 demonstrated the on pricing actions across the Rev portfolio. As we have noted in past calls, the Recreation and Commercial segments We're the first to enjoy pricing tailwinds within fiscal 2022 and early into fiscal 2023. The Recreation segment benefited from increased industry pricing, strong market reception of our new product introductions And a relatively low 2023 mile a year lot inventory entering the year, which allowed this segment to manage through a challenging Market as we exit 2023. In the Commercial segment, limited backlog for school bus, terminal trucks and street sweepers Emerging from COVID, combined with a short production cycle, allows the businesses to realize the benefits of previously enacted price increases within 2023.

Speaker 1

Improved efficiencies and volume leverage also contributed to strong margin performance in the Commercial and Recreation segments. Within the Fire and Emergency segment, increased production rates and shipments from the Ambulance Group results in improved price realization in fiscal 2023. We expect fire group shipments to begin experiencing similar tailwind in the second half of fiscal twenty twenty four. Within the year, we invested in our workforce by implementing gainsharing programs to an expanded group of businesses, Making targeted pay scale adjustments and adding headcount to support increased production rates at many of our plants. To support the success of these investments in our people, the human resources and local management teams have worked to improve recruiting and expand training programs Designed to more effectively onboard workers while minimizing inefficiencies.

Speaker 1

Managers across the enterprise have Best practices for developing the required skills and new hires. These efforts contributed to a reduction of voluntary turnover in all segments And a 23% reduction in turnover for the REV Group in total. We will continue these training programs in fiscal 2024 and expect them to provide additional benefits to new hires, current employees and rev bottom line through an increased labor efficiencies and higher production rates. In fiscal 2023, we improved the conversion of sales to earnings versus 2022 And continue to convert adjusted net income to cash with full year free cash conversion of 116%, the 3rd consecutive year of conversion greater than 100 We demonstrated the disciplined use of capital by paying down debt in an environment of rising interest rates and economic uncertainty. The result was an improved balance sheet, including $81,000,000 of net debt reduction and increased availability in our ABL credit facility.

Speaker 1

Exiting the year, we have a net debt to trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio of just 0.8 times, well under our targeted range of 2 to 2.5 times. Although debt reduction remains a primary use of cash, We continue to look at organic and inorganic opportunities and review our portfolio of existing business to ensure that they meet our long term financial objectives. Now turning to Slide 4. Full year consolidated net sales increased $306,000,000 or 13% versus fiscal 2022. The increase was primarily the result of increased sales within the F and E and Commercial segments, partially offset by decreased sales within the Recreation segment.

Speaker 1

The increase in F and E segment sales was primarily due to increased shipments of fire apparatus and ambulance, a favorable mix of ambulance units and price realization partially offset by an unfavorable mix of fire apparatus. The increase in commercial segment sales was primarily the result of increased production Toll buses, terminal trucks and street sweepers and pricing actions, partially offset by fewer shipments and an unfavorable mix of municipal transit buses. The decrease in Recreation segment sales was a result of fewer unit shipments and unfavorable mix of gas units that carried a lower selling price and discounting certain categories partially offset by price realization. Full year consolidated adjusted EBITDA $52,000,000 or 49 percent year over year. The increase in adjusted EBITDA was primarily a result of increased contributions From the F and E and Commercial segments, partially offset by lower contribution from the Recreation segment.

Speaker 1

The increase in F and E segment EBITDA Was primarily due to higher unit volume, a favorable mix of ambulance units and price realization, partially offset by an unfavorable mix of fire units, Lingering inefficiencies related to the relocation of Kami branded manufacturing and inflationary pressures. The increase in the commercial segment EBITDA was primarily due to increased shipments of school buses, turbo trucks and street sweepers and price realization, partially offset by an unfavorable mix of municipal transit buses and inflationary pressures. The decrease in Recreation segment EBITDA was related to fewer unit shipments and an unfavorable mix of gas units, increased discounting and inflationary pressures, partially offset by price realization. Turning to Slide 5, I'll provide Q4 highlights and then move on to detailed segment financials. Throughout We implemented programs designed to increase throughput and improve manufacturing efficiencies across the organization.

Speaker 1

Within the quarter, The benefits from these programs were most significantly demonstrated in the F and E segment as it delivered 4th quarter sales that were 34% higher than the prior year. Year over year, the fire group increased net sales by 28% and unit shipments of fire apparatus reached a 2.5 year high by increasing 21%. Ambulance Group net sales increased 46% and unit shipments increased 33% versus the prior year, Remaining at a level near the 3rd quarter 3 year high. Commercially, our businesses were actively engaged with their customers, dealers and The RevFire group demonstrated its commitment to the 1st responder community by hosting the 27th Annual Fire Truck Training Conference, The largest and most in-depth combined training and testing events in the nation. FTTC provided training to approximately 400 1st responders, driver operators, technicians, equipment manufacturers, dealers and service center representatives for 50 individual courses over 4 days.

Speaker 1

Attendees met with flyers 1 on 1 to address specific Troubleshooting issues and learn the latest maintenance tips and techniques. In September, the REV Ambulance Group showcased 2 highly customized Critical Care Transport Ambulance at the EMS World, a leading education event for emergency service providers worldwide. Critical Care Transport is considered the highest level of patient care for most critically injured or ill patients. The showcase AEV brand ambulance were Designed to accommodate the extra equipment required when transporting patients in critical condition are an example of the customization And the capabilities of Rev's Ambulance brand to fulfill any requirement. Finally, I am pleased to announce that Steve Zemansky has joined the company as Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary.

Speaker 1

Steve previously served as the Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Terry and Cooper Tire. Prior to that, he has the same title at Esser Minerals Americas and served the General Counsel of Titan Energy Partners. In addition to legal matters, Steve will sit on the executive leadership team and oversee corporate governance and ESG initiatives across REV Group Companies. I look forward to the positive contributions that Steve and Experian will provide to REV Group. Steve will be working with Paul Robinson, our Interim General Counsel to transition responsibilities through the 1st fiscal quarter.

Speaker 1

I would like to thank Paul Robinson for his contributions to the company over the past several months. Please turn to Page 6 of the slide deck As I move to a review of our Q4 consolidated financial results, net sales of $693,000,000 increased $70,000,000 or 11% Compared to the Q4 of the prior year, the increase was driven by higher shipments and sales within the F and A Commercial segment, partially offset by lower sales in the Recreation segment. Commercial segment sales continue to benefit from higher shipments of school buses And price realization, our unit shipments of terminal trucks, street sweepers and municipal transit buses declined sequentially. Lower recreation sales were primarily a result of lower unit shipments across all categories, an unfavorable mix of lower priced gas units and discounting certain categories partially offset by price realization. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA $54,000,000 increased $21,000,000 or 61 percent versus last year with increased contribution from the Fire and Emergency and Commercial segments, partially offset by lower contribution from the Recreation segment.

Speaker 1

Higher contribution from the F and E segment includes improved results in both the flyer and ambulance groups. Commercial segment EBITDA benefited from improved profitability in the School Bus and Specialty businesses, partially offset by a decline in municipal transit Lower recreation contribution was primarily related to fewer shipments, unfavorable mix, Inflationary pressures and increased discounting, partially offset by price realization, increased year over year consolidated net sales Convergent incremental adjusted EBITDA margin of 30%. Moving to Page 7 of the slide deck, We will review our Q4 segment results. Fire and Emergency 4th quarter segment sales increased $86,000,000 compared to the prior year. Higher net sales were primarily due to increased shipments of fire apparatus and ambulance units mentioned earlier, a favorable mix of higher content ambulance units and price realization.

Speaker 1

Unit production at our largest fire apparatus plant Reached a 3 year high and 4th quarter shipments from our chassis center of excellence setting records since its acquisition in the spring of 2020. The UAW strike was resolved within the quarter with little impact on our ambulance group, which posted another strong quarter of unit shipments, resulting in a 6 year high of quarterly net sales. EfraNeese segment adjusted EBITDA was $26,800,000 in the Q4 of 2023 Compared to adjusted EBITDA of $1,900,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The increase was primarily a result of higher volume, Favorable ambulance mix and price realization, partially offset by an unfavorable mix of fire apparatus and inflationary pressures. F and A adjusted EBITDA dollar and margin reached a 5 year high within the quarter.

Speaker 1

Wire Group profitability improved 600 basis points versus the prior year and 140 basis points sequentially reaching a 2.5 year high. Improved profitability was primarily due to higher sales volume, manufacturing efficiencies related to programs put in place throughout the year mentioned earlier And improved price realization at several plants. Across the fire group, a greater number of production slots were utilized Through improved daily management focus on starts to drive even higher completions, we completed a key milestone at our largest brand Campus by realigning production to a more efficient use of factory space. Induenville plants now manufacture a dedicated value stream versus running a mixed production line, which created complexity and resulted in inefficiencies in the past. Ambulance Group profitability improved 800 basis points compared to last year, resulting in a 5 year high in adjusted EBITDA margin And a 6 year high in adjusted EBITDA dollars, all ambulance businesses contributed with improved margin performance sequentially, which resulted in the group attaining the full year margin performance target provided during the 2021 Investor Day.

Speaker 1

Record F and E backlog of $3,600,000,000 increased 41% year over year, reflecting strong orders and pricing actions. The full year unit book to bill ratio was 1.5 times in fiscal 2023. Throughput and unit production are expected to increase The mid single digit rate within fiscal year 2024, while industry demand and inbound orders are expected to begin a normalization back to As a result, we anticipate the book to bill ratio will be closer to 1x in fiscal 2024. Increased throughput and price realization are expected to result in low double digit percentage revenue growth in fiscal 2024 versus fiscal 2023. Volume leverage, continued efficiency improvements and price realization are expected to result in the full year incremental margin In the 35% to 40% range on the revenue increase.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 8. 4th quarter commercial segment sales of $140,000,000 was an increase of 26% compared to the prior year. The increase was primarily related to higher sales of school buses, Partially offset by lower sales of terminal trucks, street sweepers and transit buses. 4th quarter shipments of school buses Reached a 3 year high, improving 16% sequentially against the record backlog entering the quarter. Unit sales of Terminal truck and street sweepers declined 9% 30%, respectively, versus the prior year as end market demand and specialty group inbound orders Continued to soften throughout the year.

Speaker 1

Municipal transit bus production and completions remain impacted by shortages of components such as seats And wiring harnesses, which contributed to a 14% decrease in unit shipments compared to last year. Commercial segment adjusted EBITDA of $16,500,000 increased $13,200,000 versus prior year. The increase in adjusted EBITDA was primarily a result of Free shipments and favorable mix of school bus units and price realization within the school bus and specialty group businesses, Partially offset by fewer shipments of terminal trucks, street sweepers and municipal transit bus business And labor inefficiencies related to supply chain disruptions and the competitive bidding environment in the Transit Bus business. Commercial segment backlog of $427,000,000 decreased 19% versus last year, reflecting increased production against backlog And decreased orders for terminal trucks, street sweepers and municipal transit buses. Lower demand for terminal trucks is expected to continue into the first half of Fiscal 2024 as logistics providers, retailers, distribution centers and port operators remain cautious While monitoring consumer spending and general economic trends, lower demand for street sweepers is primarily related to reduced orders from equipment rental companies, With our primary customer base, we expect the combined results of the Specialty Group order headwinds to be a decline of approximately 100,000,000 And commercial segment revenue in fiscal 2024.

Speaker 1

Lower demand for the municipal transit bus business is primarily related to a transition from Carbon based vehicles to low and no emission solutions. The infrastructure upgrades required to operate a low emission fleet As a result of the municipalities extending delivery date for buses as they upgrade the depots and other service equipment required to operate a converted fleet. As the transition to alternative fuel solutions gets stretched out, the market for incumbent diesel and CNG units has become highly competitive With manufacturers competing to fill production slots, we plan to manage the impact of lower commercial segment revenue related to these headwinds With cost actions designed to maintain a decremental margin in the 15% range on anticipated revenue decreases. Turning to Slide 9. Recreation segment sales of $215,000,000 decreased 17% versus last year's 4th quarter.

Speaker 1

Lower sales versus the prior year were primarily a result of fewer shipments in all categories and unfavorable mix of Class A units and discounting certain categories partially offset by a favorable mix of Class C units and price realization. Quarterly shipments reached a 3 year low dating to the 2nd fiscal quarter of 2020, which coincided with the onset of COVID. The largest headwind in unit shipments and net sales was within our Towable business, which is currently producing with approximately 1 month of backlog. Despite an overall industry retail sales decline, our motorized categories continue to outpace the industry and have gained market share in the calendar year to date period. Our Class B business posted record quarterly net sales with calendar year to date retail unit sales up 6% versus Class B industry decline of 3%.

Speaker 1

Class A Business retail unit sales declined 1% for the calendar year to date versus the industry's decline of 12% And Class B retail unit sales were up 4% versus the industry decline of 12%. Recreation segment adjusted EBITDA $19,000,000 was a decrease of $16,200,000 versus the prior year. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA was primarily a result of lower unit volume, Inflationary pressures and discounting, partially offset by price realization and cost actions in certain businesses, resulting in a 4th quarter decremental margin of 36% on the revenue decrease. Segment backlog of $385,000,000 at year end decreased 66% versus prior year. The decrease is primarily due to continued production against backlog and lower full year net orders across Product categories versus prior year.

Speaker 1

Within the quarter, our most profitable categories of Class B and Class C orders remained at a normalized level and in line with pre COVID levels and backlog for these businesses remain at approximately 6 to 8 months of production respectively. We expect fiscal 2024 full year revenue to be down mid single digits, reflecting continued mix headwinds from Class A gas units They carry a lower average selling price, plus increased contribution from lower content units and new products in entry level categories. As a result, full year 2024 Recreation segment adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be in the high single digits. Turning to Slide 10. Trade working capital on October 31, 2023, was $318,500,000 A decrease of $29,300,000 compared to $347,800,000 at the end of fiscal 2022.

Speaker 1

The The decrease was primarily a result of increased accounts payable and customer advances, partially offset by an increase in accounts receivable inventory. The increased inventory balance includes an increase of 40,000,000 chassis and increased finished goods of 11,000,000 related to timing of customer inspection and acceptance prior to delivery. Partially offsetting these increases was the decrease in raw materials, parts and work in process, which we feel demonstrates the progress of operational initiatives aimed at improving manufacturing efficiencies. Full year cash from operating activities was $126,500,000 We spent $13,100,000 on capital expenditures within the 4th quarter And a total of $32,800,000 for the full year, including organic CapEx investments for growth. As I mentioned earlier, Full year free cash flow of $93,700,000 was 116% conversion of adjusted net income.

Speaker 1

Net debt as of October 31 was $128,700,000 including $21,300,000 of cash on hand. We declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.05 per share payable January 12 to shareholders of record on December 26. At quarter's end, the company maintained ample liquidity for our strategic initiatives with approximately $384,000,000 available under our ABL revolving credit Turning to Slide 11. We provide a 2024 fiscal full year outlook, which builds upon the exit Great momentum within the Fire and Emergency segment. We expect continued throughput gains and strong incremental performance within F and E To offset headwinds from cyclical end market softness within the Specialty Group and Recreation segment, today's top line guidance is 2.6 $2,700,000,000 or approximately flat revenue at the midpoint.

Speaker 1

Adjusted EBITDA guidance is $165,000,000 to $185,000,000 An increase of 12% at the midpoint. Given the seasonally soft Q1, we expect the Q1 to be the trough of revenue and adjusted EBITDA margin With sequential improvement throughout the year, we expect first half consolidated revenue to be approximately 45% of the full year guidance And first half consolidated adjusted EBITDA to be approximately 35% of the full year guidance. Adjusted net income is expected $82,000,000 to $99,000,000 and net income $71,000,000 to $90,000,000 Free cash flow is expected to be in the range of $70,000,000 to $85,000,000 Reflecting a net reduction in customer advances related to increased throughput and lower intake of new deposits in the current interest rate environment as well as the year on year increase of cash taxes paid. We anticipate a reduction in overall inventory to partially offset the impact of lower customer advances. Full year capital expenditures is estimated to be in the range of $30,000,000 to $35,000,000 including organic growth investments in our businesses As well as ERP upgrades in certain businesses, maintenance CapEx remains in the range of $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 per year.

Speaker 1

The expected interest expense range of $26,000,000 to $28,000,000 is approximately flat year over year, which considers a seasonal use of cash in the Q1 That typically impacts the full year average debt level as well as higher interest rates on debt and customer advances versus the prior year. Thank you again for joining us on today's call. And with that, operator, we would now like to open the call up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question Our first question comes from the line of Mig Dobre with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. Yes, good morning. I guess my first question, I'm far in emergency. I appreciate the context on how you're framing 2024.

Speaker 2

But as I understood it, you're looking at mid single digit Unit production growth, maybe low double digit revenue growth, I guess that implies somewhere in the mid single digit pricing Year over year that you're recognizing. So maybe can you confirm that? And I'm sort of curious as you're sort of looking at what's Slowing out of your backlog because you have quite a large backlog that's built up. Are we to expect that pricing will then Further accelerate or become a further tailwind as we think about fiscal 2025 relative to 2024? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. I think in my prepared remarks that you did the math correctly there, Mig. So you're correct. That is I will confirm that the pricing that It's the mid single digits like you're talking about there mid to high single digits. And specifically in the 25 when you talk about The back half of twenty twenty four, as I said in my prepared remarks, is when fire will start realizing the pricing that we have seen come through in ambulance as they've been Quicker to execute their backlog, so we would expect similar type of increases as we exit that 'twenty four into 'twenty five.

Speaker 2

Great. And from a capacity standpoint, when you're kind of looking at both fire and ambulance, Where are you now? Are you able to further increase production volume beyond fiscal 2024? Or will that require Incremental investment of any sort?

Speaker 1

No, I think we can. We've done a lot of work as we talked about throughout the year and increasing Our throughput in existing facilities and again a lot of our locations are 410, so we have the ability to flex beyond that. So we feel good right now what we're doing from our production cadence and the ramp plans we have in 2024 and then exiting absolutely 2024 into 2025.

Speaker 2

I see. Your comment on incremental margins here in 35% to 40%, It sounds like you're getting that without maybe the full tailwind from pricing in In fiscal 2024, what's the right way to think about incremental margins longer term if you would hear as we think about 2025 or even beyond that?

Speaker 1

Yes. I don't want to give anything there, but obviously we want to continue to meet that 15% incrementals. But with the pricing Still kicking in. Once we see the execution in 2024 on our backlog, then we'll be able to give a better view on into 2025. So I would just say for 2024, it includes also operating improvements as we talked about in the in our Holden facility, which we've talked about the last couple of quarters, Right.

Speaker 1

And flushing out of the KME units and getting more of a production cadence there. So that's where you're seeing those Every incremental as well as improvement in that facility as well.

Speaker 2

Sure. Then last question for me. The balance sheet, as you pointed out, you made big progress in delevering your stub one time net debt to EBITDA and obviously EBITDA Going in the right direction here. So I'm sort of curious, based on your guidance, you're expecting free cash flow to be About $30,000,000 about $40,000,000 How do you think about deploying this cash in fiscal 2024? Do you think more towards share buybacks given where your stock is trading in valuation?

Speaker 2

Or are you active in pursuing any sort of M and A deal?

Speaker 1

Thanks. Yes. I would say we're not active, but we're always looking like I said in my prepared remarks, we still have a lot of value In our four walls, so we are entertaining, looking at opportunities, but we're not active in Process, but obviously we'll look at as we always do what's best for the shareholders and from an overall perspective if there's share buyback We pursue that as we talked about previously.

Speaker 2

All right. Good luck.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thanks,

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mike Schlosky with D. A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Yes. Hello. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Hey, guys. I want to touch first on the recreation Obviously, there's been some downside in the last couple of quarters here.

Speaker 3

Things might still be challenged. But do you think you might be able to end Fiscal 2024 on a positive note, there'll be some easier comps or just a lot of the issues that are facing the segment might eventually flush through by then? Or do you think it'll be For essentially the entire year and the next fiscal year here.

Speaker 1

No, I think, obviously, the first half of the year, which we talked about in the prepared remarks, There's still a little bit of tailwind from the industry and then the back half obviously had the slowing that we've been talking about. So as you exit 24, I think we get more normalized than what we saw in 2023, 2020, the comps are more difficult in the first half Of the year, and I think we'll be really able to judge that coming out of January here in our Tampa show, which is the largest RV show in the U. S, so we'll be able to see what the consumer and dealer appetite is coming out of Q1 here. So I think we'll have a better view In Q1 than we currently do in the market right now.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. I also want to follow-up on some of your comments about street sweepers. It seems like elsewhere, they haven't been calling out too many challenges in the street sweeper business, given Infrastructure bill tailwind is just generally positive government spending trends. I'm curious as to give us more details on what you're seeing there Certain part of the country, a certain size sweeper, etcetera, that might be reasons why some reason your segment is just not working right there.

Speaker 1

Yes. I think that more of it is the utilization. So like we talked about, we sell to a lot of rental houses and what they've seen is a drop And the dealers that we use as well as the operators. So again, it's one that we continue to follow. I I think we are seeing increased quote activity, but we just haven't seen the improvement from an order fulfillment So I think that's a latency as well as we go exit the season here into the winter.

Speaker 1

So I think what we're seeing here is more of a normalization of that business coming off historic high in 2023 and the fact that we'll get back to where we used to be, we're building stock within the winter units and then as spring kicks off, we start Seeing the order intake pickup. So I think what we're seeing overall is a normalization in Street Sweeper and yard truck business where We'll see a lull here in Q1 and then it'll pick up as the shows kick off in the springtime of the following year, which is the historic Pattern that was that business previous to COVID.

Speaker 3

Outstanding. Maybe just one last one for me. On the type of school buses, I was wondering if you could give us an update on the EV product, how that's been taking off and order intake for that particular area. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. So I think for the school bus business, we're seeing relatively low intake. I think we're meeting the requirements. It's still less than 100 when you look Total Collins business that produces those. So it's not those are accretive, those buses, But it's not a main driver of the results of our school bus business.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks so much. I'll pass it along.

Speaker 1

All right. Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Thank you. Mr. Skonetschne, we have no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.

Speaker 1

Yes. Thank you, operator. So in closing, I would like to thank our entire team for their efforts throughout the past year and wish everyone on the call a safe and happy holiday season. So thank you again for joining us today.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.

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