AutoZone Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • AutoZone reported Q1 total sales up 5.1% and operating profit and EPS growth in the high teens, driven by resilient same‐store sales and margin expansion.
  • International same‐store sales rose 10.9% on a constant currency basis with double‐digit growth in Mexico and Brazil, and management plans to open at least 200 new international stores by 2028.
  • Domestic commercial sales accelerated to +5.7% same‐store growth, a record $1.1 billion in sales, 121 net new programs and 92% store penetration, highlighting strong share gains.
  • Domestic DIY comps were flat with traffic down 1.6%, underperforming expectations in the Northeast and Midwest due to unusually mild weather impacting hard‐part sales.
  • Gross margin improved by 70 basis points ex‐LIFO, reflecting cost savings in merchandising and supply‐chain improvements that lifted margins to the highest level since FY 2021.
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Earnings Conference Call
AutoZone Q1 2024
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There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

Day, everyone, and welcome to AutoZone's 2024 First Quarter Earnings Release Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen only mode, Before we begin, the company would like to announce the following forward looking statement.

Speaker 1

Certain statements contained herein constitute forward looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements typically use words such as believe, anticipate, should, intend, plan, will, expect, estimate, project, position, strategy, speak, may, could and similar expressions. These are based on assumptions and assessments made by our management in light of experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments and other factors that we believe appropriate. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including without limitation, Product demand due to changes in fuel, prices, miles driven or otherwise, energy prices, weather, including extreme temperatures, natural disasters and general weather conditions, competition, credit market conditions, cash flows, access to available and feasible financing, unfavorable terms, future stock repurchases, the impact of recessionary conditions, consumer debt levels, changes in laws or regulations, risks associated with self Assurance, war and the prospect of war, including terrorist activity the impact of public health issues inflation, including wage inflation the ability to hire, train and retain qualified employees, including members of management and other key personnel, construction delays, failure or interruption of our information services technology systems, Issues relating to the confidentiality, integrity or availability of information, including due to cyber attacks, historic growth rate, sustainability, downgrade of our credit ratings, Damage to our reputation, challenges associated with doing business and expanding into international markets, origin and raw material cost of suppliers, Inventory availability, disruption in our supply chain, impact of tariffs, impact of new accounting standards, our ability to execute our growth initiatives and other business interruptions.

Speaker 1

Certain of these risks and uncertainties are discussed in more detail in the Risk Factors section contained in Item 1A under Part 1 of our Annual Report on Form 10 ks for the year ended August 26, These risk factors should be read carefully. Quarterly statements are not guarantees that future performance and actual results, developments and business decisions may differ from those contemplated by such forward looking statements. Events described above and in the risk factors could materially and adversely affect our business. However, it should be understood that it is not possible to identify or predict all such risks and other factors that could affect these forward looking statements. Forward looking statements speak only to the date made.

Speaker 1

Except as other required, by applicable law, we undertake no obligation to update publicly any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

Operator

Thank you. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Bill Rhodes, Chairman and CEO of AutoZone. Sir, the floor is yours.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and thank you for joining us Today for AutoZone's 2024 First Quarter Conference Call. With me today are Phil Danielle, CEO Elect Jamere Jackson, Chief Financial Officer and Brian Campbell, Vice President, Treasurer, Investor Relations and Tax. Regarding the Q1, I hope you had an opportunity to read our press release and learn about the quarter's results. If not, the press release along with slides complementing our comments today are available on our website, www.autozone.com under the Investor Relations link. Please click on Quarterly Earnings Conference Calls to see them.

Speaker 2

As we begin this morning, we want to thank our AutoZoners for their contributions during the quarter That resulted in our solid performance. As our pledge states, we lead with putting customers first, which allowed us to grow our total sales by 5.1%, while both our operating profit and earnings per share grew by very impressive High teens rates. As we have previously said, we have been able to continually build on the phenomenal performance From the pandemic years of 2020 to 2023, our leadership team and I continue to be impressed With our post pandemic sales performance, to put this in perspective, our FY 2019 sales We're 11,600,000,000 and now our trailing 4 quarter sales are 17,700,000,000, A 50% plus increase over a 4 year time horizon. Congratulations AutoZoners everywhere who made that enormous success possible. For the Q1, our total sales our total company same store sales were 3.4% and 2.1% on a constant currency basis.

Speaker 2

As international has become a more important part of our growth story In an area where we are increasingly deploying capital, last quarter we began disclosing our global sales comp. We encourage you to focus on the constant currency number where international again had a strong quarter of 10.9%. Both our Mexican and Brazilian same store sales had double digit growth. We are very excited about the short and long term growth prospects Of international, our expectations are we will continue to grow both mature store volumes, both in DIY and DIFM, and we plan to accelerate new store openings over the next several years, ultimately getting to a minimum of 200 International new stores by 2028. Next, our domestic same store sales were up 1.2% this quarter compared to 1.7% last quarter and 5.6% in Q1 of last year.

Speaker 2

Our performance in retail was slightly below our expectations, but still, still resilient in the current environment. Breaking our sales into 3, 4 week segments, our DIY same store sales We're roughly 1% for both the 1st and last 4 weeks segments, but we're negative 2% in the middle 4 weeks or October. Commercial

Speaker 3

sales on

Speaker 2

the other hand accelerated for the quarter, but we started stronger than we finished. As you know, some of the comparisons over the last few years were distorted and on a 3 year basis, the performance of each of the businesses this quarter Was remarkably similar. Our commercial business grew 5.7% against exceptionally strong comps last year. Importantly, We continue to be encouraged by the new initiatives we have in place to accelerate top line growth in commercial and those efforts or having a positive impact on our performance. And as we further analyzed our DIY and DIFM results and specifically Our second period sales slowdown, our retail business was clearly impacted on a regional basis as we saw a seventy basis point performance gap between the Northeast and Midwestern markets versus the rest of the country.

Speaker 2

We continue to attribute this gap in performance To the lack of winter weather last year and lack of snowfall, but enough about what happened to us. While not satisfied with our sales performance, we are encouraged as we enjoyed both dollar and unit share gains in our domestic and retail businesses, Domestic Retail and Commercial Businesses. We previously highlighted that we were not executing at peak levels and we are encouraged to share That we are seeing steady progress. Our in stock levels are nearing pre pandemic levels. Turnover, while still elevated, is beginning to decline.

Speaker 2

Productivity levels in our distribution centers have improved. The technology we deployed to improve service levels to commercial customers is seeing much higher adoption rates, leading to decreased delivery times, and we have opened a significant number of new commercial programs, reaching 92% Domestic penetration for the first time in our history. Even more encouraging is the continued strength in sales we are seeing from those new program openings as many are only weeks old. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Phil D'Aniel to give more in-depth quarter on

Speaker 4

the quarter. Bill? Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Our domestic same store sales were 1.2% this quarter on top of last year's 5.6% growth. While we were up against exceptionally strong same store sales from a year ago, Particularly in commercial, we believe we are making progress with more room for improvement.

Speaker 4

I want to reiterate what Bill said a moment ago We've made many changes across the organization from reinstituting many of our long term processes to placing share of voice in vitally important areas, ensuring we are hiring the right AutoZoners and execution is improving meaningfully. Our domestic commercial business grew 5.7%. We still have work to do, but we were pleased with the improvements we saw in this business. As the business began improving, we believe we grew share and set another record for the quarter with $1,100,000,000 in commercial sales. Domestic commercial sales represented 30% of our domestic auto parts sales for quarter 1.

Speaker 4

Our commercial sales growth continues to be driven by the Key initiatives we have been working on for the last several years improved satellite store inventory availability, Material improvements in hub and mega hub coverage, adding new hubs and mega hubs, The strength of the Duralast brand with an intense focus on high quality products and technological enhancements that make us easier to do business with. We are also operating more efficiently with improvements in delivery times and enhanced sales force effectiveness. In Q1, we opened 121 net new commercial programs, opening the majority of them in the back half of the quarter. 69 of those 121 programs opened in weeks 7 through 12 of the quarter. While programs that opened late in the quarter have minimal sales On the quarter, they do position us for sales growth for the remainder of FY 'twenty four and beyond.

Speaker 4

As Bill previously shared, I want to reiterate, we now have commercial in approximately 92% of our domestic stores. When I was SVP of Commercial, we didn't have line of sight to reaching that level of penetration. It really is a great sign of the progress that we've made over the last 5 years or so. We believe our commercial business will get stronger and growth rates should improve as we move through the year as comps get easier and our execution will continue to improve. Regarding domestic DIY, We had flat comps this quarter on top of last year's comp of 2.6%.

Speaker 4

While the data we have available to us indicates we continue to gain share In both dollars and units, our comp is below our expectations, but in line with what we are seeing across the industry. Regarding weather, it was quite mild this quarter. It is this time of year when our sales will fade as the summer sales slow down into winter. This year, October was warmer than last year, and sales in weather sensitive hard part categories in the Midwest And the Northeast underperformed the remainder of the country. While our retail comp was Flat for the quarter, we saw the 1st 4 weeks comp up 1%, the 2nd 4 weeks comp down 2% And the last 4 weeks comp up 0.7%.

Speaker 4

While our performance clearly improved over the last 4 weeks of the quarter, We fell short of our own expectations for retail for the full quarter. As a reminder, historically, extreme weather, either hot or cold, drives parts failures and accelerated maintenance. Regarding this quarter's traffic versus ticket growth, In retail, our traffic was down 1.6%, while our ticket was up similarly. We expect our ticket growth will return to more normalized levels in the 3% to 4% range as we get further removed from the large increases from last year due to significant inflation, particularly due to freight costs. Regarding our commercial trends, we continue to see higher growth rates for ticket for traffic relative to ticket.

Speaker 4

During the quarter, There were some geographic regions that did better than others as there always are. This quarter, we saw a 230 basis point worse performance As the Northeast and the Midwest experienced a very mild winter last year With below average snowfall, we sold less weather sensitive hard parts in this part of the country. Heading into the second Quarter, we are planning for a more normal weather pattern. But as a reminder, the Q2 is always our most volatile quarter as weather fluctuations can be extreme, meaningfully impacting our short term sales performance either positively or negatively. Regarding our merchandise categories in the retail business, our sales floor categories underperformed hard parts as we saw more discretionary pullback from customers.

Speaker 4

We do feel the low end consumer started pulling back on discretionary purchases. Let me also address inflation and pricing. This quarter, we saw low single digit inflation and as a result, our ticket was up roughly 1.5%. We believe inflation for the Q2 will be similar as the industry is migrating back to pre pandemic inflation levels, lapping very high inflation from a year ago. I want to reiterate that our industry has been very disciplined about pricing for decades, and we expect that to continue.

Speaker 4

Historically, as costs have increased, the industry has increased pricing commensurately to maintain margins. It is also notable that following periods of higher inflation, our industry has historically not reduced pricing to reflect lower cost, and we believe we have entered into one of those periods. For the Q2, we expect our DIY sales to remain More difficult and our commercial sales trends to improve. We will, as always, be transparent about what we are seeing and provide color on our markets and outlook as trends emerge. Before handing the call to Jamere, I'd like to highlight and give some color on a few of our Other key business priorities for the new fiscal year.

Speaker 4

First, we continue to focus on our supply chain with 2 initiatives that are in flight to drive improved availability. 1 is our expanded hub and mega hub rollouts and secondly, we are making good progress on Transforming our distribution network. Along with having 2 domestic distribution centers currently under construction, Our strategy is focused on leveraging the entire network to carry more inventory closer to the customer to drive growth with speed and Expanded availability and efficiency. Additionally, we plan to continue to grow internationally. At 8 40 store 8 49 stores opened internationally or 12% of our total store base, these businesses had impressive performance last quarter and should continue to grow at a robust pace for the remainder of fiscal 2024.

Speaker 4

We are leveraging many of the learnings We have in the U. S. To refine our offerings in Mexico and Brazil. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Jamere Jackson.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Phil, and good morning, everyone. As both Bill and Phil have previously discussed, we had a solid Q1 stacked on top of an impressive Q1 last year With 5.1 percent total company sales growth, 1.2 percent domestic comp growth, 10.9 percent international comp on a constant currency basis, A 17.4% increase in EBIT and an 18.6% increase in EPS. We continue to deliver solid results And the efforts of our AutoZoners in our storage and distribution centers have continued to enable us to drive earnings growth in a meaningful way. To start this morning, let me make a take a few moments to elaborate on the specifics in our P and L for Q1. For the quarter, total sales were $4,200,000,000 up 5.1 Let me give a little more color on sales and our growth initiatives.

Speaker 3

Starting with our domestic commercial business, our domestic DIFM sales increased 5.7% to $1,100,000,000 and we're up 20.6 percent on a 2 year stack basis. Sales to our domestic DIFM customers Represented 26% of our total company sales and 30% of our domestic auto parts sales. Our average weekly sales per program For $15,900 down 0.6 percent. It's important to point out that our sales per program productivity Was again impacted by a large number of immature programs that have opened over the last 5 quarters. While these openings depress the point in time productivity metric, We're encouraged by the growth prospects of these programs and their early contribution to our commercial business.

Speaker 3

We have intentionally opened more stores with commercial programs in response The tremendous opportunity we see to grow our market share. We now have a commercial program in approximately 92% of our domestic stores, which leverages our DIY infrastructure, And we're building our business with national, regional and local accounts. This quarter, we opened 121 net new programs finishing with 5,000 803 total programs. Our commercial acceleration initiatives continue to make progress as we grow share by winning new business and increasing our share of wallet with existing customers. Importantly, we continue to have a lot of runway in front of us and we will continue to aggressively pursue growth opportunities in commercial, which we believe is our single largest growth opportunity.

Speaker 3

To support our commercial growth, we now have 100 mega hub locations with 2 new mega hubs open in Q1. The 100 mega hubs averaged significantly higher sales than the balance of the commercial programs and grew more than 2 times the rate of our overall commercial business in Q1. As a reminder, our mega hubs typically carry roughly 100,000 SKUs and drive tremendous sales lift inside the store box As well as serve as an expanded assortment source for other stores. The expansion of coverage and parts availability continue to deliver a meaningful sales lift Both our commercial and DIY business. These assets are performing well individually and the fulfillment capability for the surrounding AutoZone stores It's giving our customers access to thousands of additional parts and lifting the entire network.

Speaker 3

We will continue to aggressively open mega hubs for the foreseeable future, And we expect to have north of 200 mega hubs at full build out. And these are difficult to find boxes in the right locations, but we are keenly focused on rapid expansion and have 45 currently in the pipeline and growing. On the domestic retail side of our business, our comp was essentially flat for the quarter. As mentioned, we saw traffic down 1.6%, offset by 1.5% ticket growth. As we move forward, we would expect to see slightly declining Transaction counts offset by low to mid single digit ticket growth, in line with the long term historical trends for the business, driven by changes in technology and the durability of new parts.

Speaker 3

While DIY discretionary purchases were challenged in Q1, we continue to see a growing and aging car park, A challenging new and used car sales market and a consumer that is likely to continue to invest in their existing vehicles. As As such, we believe our DIY business will remain resilient for the balance of FY 'twenty four. I'll now say a few words regarding our international business. We continue to be pleased with the progress we're making internationally. Our same store sales grew 25.1% on an actual basis and 10.9% on a constant currency basis.

Speaker 3

During the quarter, we opened 5 stores in Mexico to finish with 745 stores and 4 stores in Brazil, ending with 104. We remain committed to international and given our success, we're bullish on international being an attractive and meaningful contributor to AutoZone's future growth. Now let me spend a few minutes on the rest of the P and L and gross margins. For the quarter, our gross margin was 52.8%, up 2 79 basis points, driven primarily by a non cash $81,000,000 LIFO charge in last year's quarter versus a $2,000,000 LIFO credit this year. Excluding LIFO from both years, we had a very strong 70 basis point improvement in gross margin, which increased from last quarter's 37 basis point improvement.

Speaker 3

We've had exceptional gross margin improvement and in fact we're at the highest gross margin rate we've had since FY 2021. I will point out that we now have $57,000,000 in cumulative life cycle charges yet to be reversed through our P and L, and we expect this credit balance to reverse over time. We're currently modeling $5,000,000 in LIFO credits for Q2 based on the deflation experienced in Q1. And as I said previously, once we credit back the $57,000,000 through the P and L, we will not take any more credits and we will begin to rebuild an unrecorded LIFO reserve. Moving to operating expenses, our expenses were up 7.4% versus last year's Q1 as SG and A as a percentage of sales deleveraged 68 basis points.

Speaker 3

The increase in SG and A has been purposeful as we continue to invest in store payroll and IT to underpin our growth initiatives. These investments are paying dividends in customer experience, speed and productivity. We're committed to being disciplined on SG and A Growth as we move forward and we will manage expenses in line with sales growth over time. Moving to the rest of the P and L, EBIT for the quarter was $849,000,000 up 17.4% versus the prior year, driven by our positive same store sales growth And gross margin improvements, including the LIFO year over year favorable comparison. Interest expense for the quarter was $91,400,000 up 58 from Q1 a year ago as our debt outstanding at the end of the quarter was $8,600,000,000 versus $6,300,000,000 at Q1 end last year.

Speaker 3

We're planning interest expense in the $98,000,000 range for the Q2 of FY 'twenty four versus $65,600,000 last year. Higher debt levels and borrowing rates across the curve are driving this increase. For the quarter, our tax rate was 21.6% and up from last year's Q1 of 18.9%. This quarter's rate benefited 147 basis points from stock options exercised, while last year it benefited 4 46 basis points. For the Q2 of FY 'twenty four, we suggest investors model us at approximately 23.4% before any assumption on credits due to stock option exercises.

Speaker 3

Moving to net income and EPS. Net income for the quarter was $593,000,000 up 10% versus last year. Our diluted share count of 18,200,000 was 7.2% lower than last year's Q1. The combination of higher net income And lower share count drove earnings per share for the quarter to $32.55 up 18.6 percent for the quarter. Now let me talk about our free cash flow for Q1.

Speaker 3

For the Q1, we generated $600,000,000 in free cash flow. We expect to continue being an incredibly strong cash flow generator going forward, and we remain committed to returning meaningful amounts of cash to our shareholders. Regarding our balance sheet, our liquidity position remains very strong and our leverage ratio finished Q1 at 2.5 times EBITDAR, Returning to our long term target, our inventory per store was up 0.3% versus last year, while Total inventory increased 3% driven by new store growth. Net inventory defined as merchandise inventory less accounts payable on a per store basis Was a negative $197,000 versus negative $249,000 last year and negative $201,000 last quarter. As a result, accounts payable as a percent of inventory finished the quarter at 124.4% versus last year's 131%.

Speaker 3

Lastly, I'll spend a moment on capital allocation and our share repurchase program. We repurchased $1,500,000,000 of AutoZone stock in the quarter, And at quarter end, we had just over $300,000,000 remaining under our share buyback authorization. The strong earnings, Balance sheet and powerful free cash we generated this year has allowed us to buy back 3% of the shares outstanding in the quarter. We have bought back over 100 percent of the then outstanding shares of stock since our buyback inception in 1998, while investing in our existing assets and growing our business. We remain committed to this disciplined capital allocation approach that will enable us to invest in the business and return meaningful amounts of cash to shareholders.

Speaker 3

To wrap up, we remain committed to driving long term shareholder value by investing in our growth initiatives, driving robust earnings and cash and returning excess cash to our shareholders. We're growing our market share, expanding our margins and improving our competitive positioning in a disciplined way. And as we look forward to the remainder of FY 'twenty four, we're bullish on our growth prospects behind a resilient DIY business, a fast growing international business In a domestic commercial business that is reaccelerating, I continue to have tremendous confidence in our strategy and our ability to drive significant and ongoing value for our shareholders. And now I'll turn it back to Phil.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Jamere. During the quarter, we launched our new fiscal year, and I'd like to take a moment to discuss the key Takeaways from our national sales meeting in September. At the meeting, we launched our operating theme for the New Year, Live the Pledge. While we have used this theme previously, it continues to deeply resonate with our AutoZoners. Simply put, it differentiates us from everyone else.

Speaker 4

The energy at the event has never been higher. The pledge is the core of our culture, and I, our Board and our leadership team Believe we can never overemphasize our culture. It is defined by helping solve our customers' challenges and optimizing the performance of their vehicles. It is based on a team based approach of recognizing everyone's contributions and performance, putting team goals ahead of personal goals. It sets the standard at exceptional performance, not mediocrity.

Speaker 4

And it's about caring about people, both our customers and our AutoZoners. It's about providing unparalleled career opportunities to a diverse population of AutoZoners, And it's about the AutoZone family. Calling yourself a family comes with great responsibility. And it's so much more. The pledge and our values summarize our operating strategy succinctly.

Speaker 4

Fiscal 20 24's Top priority is enhanced execution. Additionally, we have many strategic projects in varying stages of completion. We will continue opening new mega hubs and hubs. Construction on our new distribution centers and The optimization of our new direct import facility are a focus as we are also ramping up our Domestic and international store growth to achieve 500 annual new store openings by 2028. As you noticed, Our international teams posted same store sales comps on a constant currency basis of 10.9%, much higher than our domestic comp.

Speaker 4

International has been strong for a few years now. While I mentioned all of these investments in FY 'twenty four, the number one focus For the remainder of the year, we'll be on growing share in our domestic commercial business. We believe we have a solid plan in place for growth over the next 12 months. We know our focus on parts availability and better customer service will lead to additional sales growth. We are excited about what we can accomplish for the remainder of this year.

Speaker 4

Finally, I'd like to update you on our leadership transition plan. Next month, Bill will become Executive Chair and I will become President and CEO. It will be one of the greatest honors of my life to move into that role. And while that role will come with new opportunities and challenges, I continue to be very bullish about the prospects because I know we have an extraordinary culture in a terrific industry and as you have seen an ever evolving but exceptional team. As Bill and I both continue to say, and it may sound a little bit cliche, but we both believe it, AutoZone's best days lie ahead of us.

Speaker 4

I want to thank Bill for his wonderful nearly 19 year tenure leading this company and thank him for his leadership. I'm excited about the opportunity to continue to leverage him and has experiences in this new role as Executive Chair. I also want to thank 3 other long term senior leaders for their amazing contributions To our success, Grant McGee, Charlie Ples and Al Saltiel with their respective 34, 27 10 years of service to AutoZone. They have had an enormous contributions and their legacies will be evident in the teams they have built and the contributions those teams will make over the coming decades. I congratulate each of them and wish Grant and Bonnie, Charlie and Doris and Al and Sue well earned happiness in their next chapters.

Speaker 4

Now we'd like to open up the call for questions.

Operator

Certainly, everyone at this time will be conducting a question and answer session. Your first question is coming from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Brett. How are you?

Speaker 3

I'm good. Can we talk

Speaker 5

a bit more about the international margins since that's Going to be more impactful, how it compares to what you see in the U. S. And I guess Brazil versus Mexico, is there much difference? And is there, I guess an investment phase that is going to be required to ramp that.

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, from a margin standpoint, we're very pleased With the progress that we're making on margins, both gross margins and total operating margins, in our business in Mexico, which is much more mature than obviously what we have in Brazil. We've been very pleased with the actions we've been able to take On the merchandising side of the business, and that's given us a very healthy gross margin in that business. And then if you also think about the inherent advantages that We have from a cost structure standpoint, particularly with wage rates and labor, it's a very attractive operating margin structure in Mexico. And we believe as our business in Brazil matures and scales over time that we'll see similar advantages in Brazil.

Speaker 3

Net net, what we're doing on the international side, while it's a fast growing business, it's also going to have a lot of margin calories that come along with it.

Speaker 2

Yes, I think I would also add, we continue to say that in Brazil, we're still losing money there. So, we're in an investment phase. We're Ramping up our store count very aggressively, but with that come some operating losses that are kind of consistent with what we've been seeing over the last 5 or 6 years. I guess, what kind of scale do

Speaker 5

you need to tip Brazil into profitability? I mean, the incremental margin would seem to be very high in that case.

Speaker 2

I think that's right, Brett, but frankly, we have a lot of a whole lot of very new stores that are in very new markets As we're expanding, I mean, we've opened 40 stores or so in the last 18 months, and those stores are very immature. So we've got to see how those new stores in new markets Sure. Right now, they're causing a pretty good headwind, but not unanticipated.

Speaker 5

Okay. Quick follow-up. The U. S. Do it for me.

Speaker 5

Any channel dispersion, national account, tire service chains versus independents performance?

Speaker 4

Yes, there is. If you kind of looked at the business and talking about the big traditional nationals And the up and down the street or the local shop, those folks have performed pretty well. The national accounts, Particularly the ones that are focused on tires have been where we've struggled the most. And this really goes back to a lot of the weather conversations we had from last year. Those tire organizations just aren't getting the tires off at the same rate.

Speaker 4

They take the tire off. They see the calipers frozen or Lots of rust on those parts in there and they get the job. That's just not happening at the same rate it has previously.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Michael Lasser from UBS. Your line is live.

Speaker 6

Good morning. Thank you so much for taking my question. Given the performance of the domestic commercial business this quarter, while there was an acceleration, It did fall short of that double digit level that you had anticipated over the long run. Do you still think this is an achievable goal eventually? And is it more dependent on the performance of the industry to be stronger In order for AutoZone to achieve that goal?

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks for the great question. I think, as we said, we're slightly disappointed with Our commercial growth for this particular quarter, we're happy that it accelerated, but we frankly thought it would accelerate a little bit faster. We're happy with the progress that we're making. And to your question about double digit long term, Yes.

Speaker 4

We think we can get back to those types of growth numbers over time, particularly because we have such low share percent On the commercial side of the business, in that 4% to 5% range. So over a long time, we believe we will be able to Continue to expand our market share and as we continue to have these newer stores that we've opened over the last Five quarters continue to mature and we continue to improve our execution. We believe we will continue to grow our comps in the DIFM space.

Speaker 6

Got you. Thank you very much for that. My follow-up question is on the gross margin. It seems like There is a benefit right now from costs coming down, retails remaining stable. How long is that sustainable?

Speaker 6

And is there a case where It might make sense to roll back some prices in certain areas in order to drive the retail business to grow a bit faster in the coming quarters? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. We're pleased with the progress that we've made on gross margins and it's Really comprised of 2 pieces. Number 1, from a merchandising margin standpoint, we've done a great job inside our merchandising organization Finding cost opportunities and pricing opportunities that have given us accretive gross margins and we're doing a tremendous job there. 2nd element of that, quite frankly, has been the work that we've done inside the supply chain. If you recall, our supply chain was under tremendous pressure Over the last couple of years or so from a cost standpoint, we're now starting to see some benefits as some of those pressures have abated.

Speaker 3

But if you look at this business over the long term, I mean, we have historically been able to churn out positive gross margin improvements in a very disciplined fashion over time and that has enabled us to grow our earnings very predictably as we move forward. And when we think about the pricing environment, as we've said and we continue to reiterate, pricing is a pretty dynamic environment. We don't feel like we need to make any pricing investments at this point to be able to operate the business and grow share. But if we do have to make those moves, we'll certainly do those if it results in us improving units and ultimately growing But at this point, we're in pretty good shape in terms of where we are from a pricing standpoint and feel that we're very competitive in the marketplace.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Max Ryklincko from TD Cowen. Your line is live.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks a lot. So first, can you speak to the competitive environment And if you're seeing any changes there, and then how would you frame the level of competition today from the WDs compared to both a couple of quarters ago as well as pre pandemic?

Speaker 4

Yes. I'll break that up into 2 parts. If you think about the DIY competition, we've had a Very stable base of competitors there for a very long period of time. That business is pretty stable, And there's not a whole lot of new or changing strategies, it appears, from the competition. On the DIFM side, if you kind of think about our what we call our close end competitors or the public folks, Not a lot of changes there other than what O'Reilly did a year and a half ago or so on their pricing strategy.

Speaker 4

On the WD side, I think you kind of have to look at pandemic time versus today. One of the things that we believe is they really struggled with some in stock in some key categories over the pandemic. Over the last, Say a year or so, it appears that they have become more in stock on those key categories like everybody has, but they were probably More acutely impacted than a lot of the public players, and they've returned to more normal levels. As a reminder, we are still not back to our pre pandemic levels of in stock, but we're pretty darn close.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's helpful. And then you guys touched on delivery times improving a few times throughout the prepared remarks. So Can you speak to what your average delivery times are now in the markets where you've got the megas? And then how much more room do you have to improve?

Speaker 7

And then just the cadence we should think about in order to get there?

Speaker 4

Yes. Just delivery times can be wildly different And the delivery times Mega hub inventory or what we call expanded parts can differ wildly if it has to be relayed to a store or Our average delivery times, you're kind of thinking in that 30 minute range. So A 10% improvement in delivery times is pretty meaningful, but it may be 3 to 5 minutes. And that matters when a customer is sitting there trying to turn their bay. So We believe we'll continue to leverage and improve our delivery times, and that's a key strategy for us because it's a measure of customer service.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks a lot. Best regards.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Chris Horvers from JPMorgan. Your line is

Speaker 9

live. Thanks. Good morning and congratulations to everybody. So I wanted to follow-up on the Question more broadly about the consumer. You talked about some of the tire businesses remaining weak.

Speaker 9

You talked about some discretionary You know front room pressure in DIY, I guess, you know, how much of this do you think is just a deferral That's building that you typically see as a category and as you start to see the slowdown in the consumer front, Consumer starts to differ. So are you seeing evidence of that? And do you think we're still in the point of that sort of getting worse before ultimately that demand potentially releases?

Speaker 2

That's a terrific question, Chris. Let's step back and talk about this on a long term basis first. If you Think about the retail business, which we have much more experience in the retail business, and you think about it over long periods of time. We don't spend a lot of time talking about the strength of the consumer, much more so when tough times happen, I. E.

Speaker 2

Recessions, those have been the periods where we've Outperformed more so than any other periods of time. So we don't spend a whole lot of time on the consumer. We certainly see in the retail business, there's Some trading down, going down the good, better, best product assortments. I think in the Commercial side, we have suppositions that we haven't yet proven because we haven't been in that business at this level For an extended period of time, I believe we think that there may be some consumers that are trading from DIFM Into DIY in certain jobs as they're trying to save money. The thing I would encourage us all to focus on more so than Minor fluctuations in consumer sentiment.

Speaker 2

As we enter the Q2, the one thing I always worry about is the weather patterns in the Q2 Are extremely volatile and they can have big impacts on our performance, both positive and negative And as we've said, those impacts of the weather, particularly in the Rust Belt can have ongoing implications As we get into the spring and summer and even the fall months, if we get significant snow and ice, particularly in the Rust Belt in the Northeast, that bodes well for us. If we don't, Then we're going to have a little bit of a challenge. To me, that is the more impactful thing that's going to happen in the near term than consumer sentiment.

Speaker 9

And so as a follow-up to that, I think last year December was pretty good in terms of the weather impact, right? So It would seem like as you look past today, the comparison gets tough, but it was a record warm Winter last year. So I guess as you look into your crystal ball, do you think there's sort of ends up being a bit of a weaker start and stronger finish To the Q2?

Speaker 2

Yes, it's interesting, Chris, because the beginning of the quarter last year, there was no weather. We had significant weather around the holidays for a couple of weeks and thought, okay, here we go in our business, responded really, really well. And then the January, February into March, particularly in the Rust Belt, it was lack of snow and ice and fairly moderate temperatures. Unfortunately, we don't have a meteorologist on staff either. And at the end of the day, we're running this business for Not quarters, not years, but for decades and the weather implications are going to even out.

Speaker 2

I just always try to make sure and Caution everybody at the beginning of the second quarter that we could have really strong performance or we could have really weak performance that's driven by weather and that doesn't need to Change how we approach our strategy over the long term.

Speaker 9

Got it. Thanks very much. Have a great holiday.

Speaker 2

Yes, you too. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Seth Sigman from Barclays. Your line is live.

Speaker 10

Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to follow-up on commercial. It seems like you've really accelerated the rollout of new programs over the last few quarters, Obviously, at a time when sales growth on a comp basis has been lower. So can you just help us better understand what's driving that decision right now, particularly as we think about Your comment around in stock level improving, but not necessarily where you want it to be. So how do we think about that thought process around accelerating right now?

Speaker 4

Yes. That's a great question. If you and I even mentioned it in the prepared remarks. If we go back to when I was SVP of Commercial, The facts are our per store performance has improved, on a per store basis, the productivity of those individual stores. Looking back over a decade's worth of time, we went through this phase where we had less than 50% of our stores, around 50% of our stores had commercial, And we slowed not slowly, we ramped up to roughly 70% high 70% to low 80% of our stores in commercial.

Speaker 4

Then we had a period of time where we really focused on per store productivity, and that's been going on for the last several years, Say 5 to 7 years. Today, we're at a spot where we've had stores that previously didn't have commercial in them and we look at the market differently with a much different share ownership where we believe those stores are now productive and we're opening them. If you kind of forecasted that out into the future, we think we've probably opened the vast majority of those stores that previously didn't have commercial. There probably be some, But I don't think you'll see this large opening of previously opened stores that didn't have commercial programs that do today. We think those stores over time will be as productive as the stores we have that have been open for a long period of time, and we'd like that productivity model going into the future.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 10

Thank you for that. And then just a follow-up would be around thinking about the investments that may be required to drive that improvement in commercial. And I think this was talked about in a few different ways, including around pricing, but I'm thinking more from an OpEx, from an SG and A perspective. It's been growing at a relatively steady 4% rate per store. That seems reasonable, but I'm curious how you're thinking about that?

Speaker 10

How you're planning

Speaker 3

We like the investment profile that we have today. And we have been very, very clear that we're investing in SG and A at a pretty accelerated pace and have done so over the last couple of years or so. And that's come in the form of store payroll, particularly around our commercial program, but also IT. And these are the kinds of things that are enabling us To drive the growth initiative in commercial, for example, Phil mentioned what we're doing on delivery times. The work that we're doing to improve our delivery times is all underpinned by investments that we've made in technology that make it easier for us to deploy drivers So those are some of the examples of things that we've invested in.

Speaker 3

And we're going to continue to do that. And that investment profile is Going to pay dividends for us in terms of speed, in terms of productivity, in terms of better results in terms of customer service.

Speaker 4

You also you mentioned price, specifically on the DIFM side. And although we made a price investment several years ago. Today, we like our pricing strategy. Now the pricing is always a pretty dynamic Point of our business and we'll continue to monitor that, but we like where we are from a pricing strategy today. So we don't see any major or deviation from our current pricing strategy.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 10

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Zach Fadem from Wells Fargo. Your line is live.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning. So when you look at the sequential uptick in your commercial business, but also a sequential downtick in DIY, Can you help us parse out the impact of broader industry trends versus your own idiosyncratic factors? And As you put these together, is it fair to say that you expect Q2 and fiscal 'twenty four as a whole to look a lot like Q1? Or are there factors that give you confidence in both DIY and commercial acceleration as we move through the year, even if the industry is slowing?

Speaker 2

Yes, I'll separate the 2. First of all, we've been in the retail business for a very long time. We've had lots of periods of time where we grow in the 0% to 2% kind of range. We're coming off a period of time in the pandemic where our retail volumes went up 25% to 30%, And we are frankly tickled to death to still be holding on to those retail volumes and we believe we've retained about 85% of the share That we gained during that 3 year period of time. So we're very pleased with that.

Speaker 2

We always want to grow faster. We're basically flat this quarter. We're trying new things, but we're pleased with where we are in the retail business. We aren't pleased with where we are in the commercial business, but let's don't forget This quarter's comp of 5.7% is comping against about a 15% comp last year. So while we didn't meet our goals or aspirations in Quarter, 5% or 2%.

Speaker 2

We're not disappointed. We're not discouraged. We know we have a long runway to go in the commercial business. Again, we're going to play this in decades, not quarters and years. We feel like that depending on the weather in the second quarter, It's probably going to look all similar to, you know, plus or minus a percent or 2, similar to what we've seen in the Q1.

Speaker 2

Our hope And our plan is to accelerate, particularly on the commercial side of the business as we enter the second half of the year, and we continue to improve our execution.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then for Jamere, just wanted to follow-up on the gross margin of about 280 basis points. I think you said about 208 So first question is, how do you expect the LIFO impact to trend in Q2 and going forward? And then if we look at the other 70 basis points of benefit from the supply chain and merch margins, is it possible to Talk a little more about the impact of these 2 individually going forward as well as the impact of mix.

Speaker 3

Yes. So if you think about LIFO, we've got about $57,000,000 or so that we still need to get back through the P and L before we Sort of wrap up that piece of our discussions hopefully. We expect this quarter to be in the 5 to call it 5 to 10 ish ZIP code, depending on what We see in terms of deflation, and the cadence going forward is likely going to be in that zip code. If it changes as we've done in the last Two quarters or so, we'll give you our latest update and our latest guidance. And if you think about what we're doing from a gross margin standpoint, Again, if you look at our business over the long term, we've typically driven gross margin improvement from a merchandising standpoint In that, call it 30 to 35 bps range.

Speaker 3

And what we said after we came out of The pricing changes that we made a couple of years or so ago that we would continue to run that play with discipline and intensity and be able to drive that. From a supply chain standpoint, again, we are improving in supply chain, but it is largely because our supply chain was under tremendous For a couple of years or so. So, I wouldn't expect that portion to be 40 bps every single quarter, We're making steady improvements there. And last quarter, in particular, was a tough quarter from a supply chain standpoint, and our teams have done a great job of turning that around.

Operator

Your line is live. Once again, your next question

Speaker 4

comes from

Speaker 3

the line

Speaker 2

of Simeon. Simeon, are you there? Hello, Simeon.

Speaker 11

Hey, can you hear me now?

Speaker 2

Yes, we can. How are you? Hi, Simeon.

Speaker 11

Okay. Sorry about that. I guess the AirPods don't work. I wanted to ask about gross margin and get your temperature on this that the input cost environment is somewhat unique, Forward pricing is coming in a little bit, freight costs are coming down. Is it a unique moment?

Speaker 11

You mentioned you're not going to you don't see a need to reinvest in price. What happens to any excess because this industry has pretty good pricing power? Do prices come down or is that potential a benefit to the gross margin?

Speaker 3

Well, I think what we've said historically and you've seen us certainly behave this way is that, as we saw inflation in the business, We took pricing accordingly. And as we come out of that, particularly with things like freight starting to come down, That is an opportunity for us to improve the gross margin profile of the business. The pricing environment has been Incredibly rational, has been for decades and it's certainly behaving rationally today. And so, we don't see a need to go deliberately invest Gross margin improvements in the pricing to drive demand. But if the case was that we thought that The pricing bands which we've established that have helped us grow our market share sort of got out of line, And we would not hesitate to go invest gross margin to be able to go do that to drive units and to drive market share growth.

Speaker 3

But the environment that we're operating in today is very, very rational. And we believe that the gross margin improvements that we're seeing today are an opportunity for us to expand margins and ultimately add more calories to the bottom line. Yes.

Speaker 11

And then my follow-up just on the health of the business. In any way, do you think that this DIY softness Is the lead or could preclude the progress that you'd like to make on commercial? I heard Bill Rhodes comment regarding it could take a little bit longer, but How do you think about the connectivity of both of these businesses? Thanks.

Speaker 2

I think I'll go back to what I said Simeon. I think We understand the retail business very well. As we've ramped so significantly in the commercial business, I don't think we know what the cyclical nature of that business is. We have, as I said, a supposition that there are certain people that in Difficult recessionary periods of time will trade down into DIY to do a brake job or a battery job where they might have taken it to a shop before. But remember the last time we saw a real recession, our commercial business was $1,000,000,000 We should Surpassed $5,000,000,000 this year.

Speaker 2

So I just don't think we have the deep insights that we do in the retail business.

Speaker 11

Thanks guys. Good luck.

Speaker 8

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Daniel Imbro from Stephens Inc. Your line is

Speaker 11

live. Yes. Hey, thanks.

Speaker 8

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning.

Speaker 2

I want to start

Speaker 8

On the domestic DIFM growth, I guess you mentioned, Jamere, in your comments that recent openings are creating an optical headwind just with more immature programs. What is the expected maturity curve or normal maturity curve for a new commercial program? And is it different in a new build versus when you're retrofitting and adding

Speaker 4

That's a great question. Yes, it's not necessarily different between A net new store and one that's a store that's been open for some number of years and then you add the program later. But those maturity curves, As you would probably imagine, they ramp pretty quick on the very front end and then it kind of it has a hockey stick over those 1st couple of years And then they tend to grow consistently after that. Keep in mind, and I'll go back to one of the things we said earlier, We think an individual store should grow for a pretty long period of time based on the fact that we continue to improve execution. And by the way, we only have 4% to 5% market share.

Speaker 4

And that market share, although it may be slightly different depending on the size of the city or the market That we're competing in, we're still at a pretty low share, specifically relative to the WD space who owns the vast majority of that share.

Speaker 2

I think I'd just add also, you can't think about these new stores as if they're in isolation. Many of those customers were servicing already from another store and will take, you know, 40% of the projected volume from another store because we can service them so much better because we're in much closer proximity. So every one of them is a little bit different. If they're in a rural area, we really don't service those customers, so they start from the ground 0. But many of the Urban and suburban markets, we have a little bit of a head start already.

Speaker 4

That's true. So net opportunity to help service them better. Therefore, you get more share of wallet.

Speaker 8

Understood. Helpful color. And then my follow-up, just a question on the private label. I guess, how has the Duralast Penetration trended in recent quarters. If I'm remembering right, you invested a lot in parts quality

Speaker 2

the last couple of years.

Speaker 8

I would think as the consumer becomes more price sensitive or The value of private label should go up. So I'm curious how that penetration is trending and are we seeing that trade into that either on the DISM or the DIFM?

Speaker 4

Yes. Keep in mind, so the Duralast investment in product quality and brand perception has been going on for Decades, frankly, but I think we really accelerated that probably 10 years ago, maybe a little more. As we think about our family of brands, Duralast has essentially a couple of tiers, Duralast, Duralast Gold and Platinum, and we have some other private labels. But for the most part, we are generally speaking, we go for coverage first over choice. So we don't have a whole lot of good, better, best up and down.

Speaker 4

We do in some categories like batteries and brakes and things of that nature. But for the most part, We may have a Duralast brand and that's what we have. In some cases, we have a total pro brand, which would be an opening price point, but We don't have a whole lot of choice in our stores. We're generally speaking coverage first, except in key categories, brakes, batteries being the best example.

Speaker 8

Got it. Appreciate the color. Best of luck, guys.

Speaker 11

Thanks, Greg. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Seth Bashman from Wedbush Securities. Your line is live.

Speaker 10

Thanks a lot. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just wanted to follow-up on the DIY business. Weather aside, it Seems like you expect the DIY business to not only remain resilient, but also potentially improve a little bit if you're anticipating a slight decline in transactions and low to mid single digit ticket growth.

Speaker 10

Is that an accurate read?

Speaker 2

I think that's absolutely accurate, Seth. As we've said for many years, the quote unquote, I've said the dirty little secret about the retail side of this business is that the transactions have been challenged and they've been challenged for over 25 years. They're challenged for a lot of reasons because the OE manufacturers are making vehicles and their components Much better. Used to, you'd had a lot more frequency of failures on those components. Today, they're not they don't fail as much because they have a lot of technology involved in those So what has happened over very long periods of time is you have this 2% to 4% drag on transactions, but you have an equivalent amount On the average price per piece because the cost of the technology that's going into those parts.

Speaker 2

We didn't see that We eliminated that transaction drag during the pandemic and frankly grew upper single digits in transactions. Today, our transaction count is starting to look a lot more similar to the way it has been in the past. One of the challenges that we're still dealing with in the retail businesses, Last year, we had hyperinflation, double digit inflation, and so our ticket isn't up as much as it normally would be, And I think that's because we're normalizing getting past that super high inflation from last year. As we think about the DIY business thinking out 3 or 4 or 5 years. First of all, we're going to have to continue to improve it and we have efforts underway to do that.

Speaker 2

But we believe it's a You know, 3% kind of ticket drag and hopefully more than or sorry, transaction drag on a same store basis and More than offset that from the average unit retail.

Speaker 10

That's helpful. And just thinking about calendar 2024, if you look at Growth rate expectations for DIY versus DIFM on an industry basis, which one Would you expect to accelerate more from 'twenty three?

Speaker 2

I think everybody thinks that DIFM is going to Grow at these very rapid rates and DIY is going to decline. What we've seen over very significant periods of time DIY usually grows 3% to 4% and commercial grows a half a point to a point faster. I think if you rolled out the next 3 years unless there's some big economic shock or something like COVID, that will probably continue to be the case.

Speaker 10

Appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2

Seth, thank you.

Speaker 4

Seems appropriate, Seth, that you got to ask Bill the last So before we conclude the call, I'd like to take a moment to reiterate, we believe that our industry is in a strong position and our business model is solid. We are excited about our growth prospects for the year, but we will take nothing for granted as we understand that our customers have alternatives. We have exciting plans that should help us succeed for the future, but I want to stress that this is a marathon and not a sprint. As we continue to focus on the Basics and strive to optimize shareholder value for the future, we are confident AutoZone will be successful. Lastly, I want to wish everyone a happy and healthy holiday season, and thank you for participating in today's call.

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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