Johnson Outdoors Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 5 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to the Johnson Outdoors 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call will be led by Helen Johnson Leopold, Johnson Outdoors' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Also on the call is David Johnson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Prior to the question and answer session, all participants will be placed in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, the question and answer session will begin.

Operator

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Operator

Penman.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our discussion of Johnson Outdoors' results for the 2023 fiscal 4th quarter. If you need a copy of today's news release, it is available on our website at johnsonoutdoors.com under Investor Relations. I also need to remind you that this conference call may contain forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

These statements are made on the basis of our current views and assumptions and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual events may differ materially from those statements due to a number of factors, many beyond Johnson Outdoors' control. These risks and uncertainties include those listed in our press release and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. If you have additional questions following the call, please contact Dave Johnson or me. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Helen Johnson Leopold.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Pat. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'll begin with an overview of the fiscal year and 4th quarter results, And then I'll share perspective on the performance and outlook for our businesses. Dave will review financial highlights and then we'll take your questions. During fiscal year 2023, we saw the end of the elevated pandemic driven demand of the past few years.

Speaker 2

That combined with higher inventory levels at retail led to challenging results for the year. Total company sales declined 11%, $663,800,000 compared to $743,400,000 in the prior fiscal year. Net income for the year was $19,500,000 or $1.90 per diluted share, a 56% decline from the prior fiscal year. Operating profit decreased 82% to $11,700,000 versus $66,300,000 in the prior fiscal year with the decrease in sales volumes and the 13% increase in operating expenses significantly impacting profitability. Our 4th quarter was particularly impacted by a significant slowdown in demand.

Speaker 2

Sales in the Q4 ending September 2023 were $96,300,000 compared to 196 dollars 4,000,000 in the prior year Q4. The 4th quarter results also reflect a challenging comparison between quarters. Our last quarter of fiscal 2022 was when supply chain restrictions eased and when we filled significant number of backlog customer orders. So it was a tough quarter and a tough year as demand in the outdoor recreation marketplace moderated And we also began to see a return to the pre pandemic traditional seasonality of order pattern. In the challenging marketplace, competitive dynamics continue to be aggressive affecting pricing.

Speaker 2

Looking forward, we anticipate these dynamics will We'll continue and we are committed to innovation to help our brands grow and succeed. In Fishing, innovation is key to sustaining our leadership position. We are excited about the broad line of new products we announced during the Q3 of the fiscal year. Minn Kota announced Quest series, the all new brushless trolling motor technology, giving anglers ultimate control in a tough fishing environment. Incotah also launched a restage of all its bow mount trolling motors with a brand new look and updated technology suite full of angler friendly enhancements And a more seamless integration with Humminbird Technology.

Speaker 2

We are fishing industry leaders. We have great brands and we're committed to returning retaining their position in this marketplace. We are excited about the momentum for the breadth of new innovation we announced and we will continue to work hard to give Anglers the best fishing experience possible. In our diving business, we saw positive growth as global dive markets, Especially European markets continue to recover. We will leverage our innovation and brand building efforts to ensure ScubaPro remains the world's most trusted dive brand.

Speaker 2

Our camping and watercraft recreation businesses faced a significant decline from Strong pandemic fueled demand of the past few years. Retailers still have high inventory on their shelves and consumer spending has slowed. In camping, we recently announced that we made the tough decision to exit our Eureka product line to increase our focus on the Jeff Boyle franchise. Jeff Ball has experienced tremendous growth over the past 5 years and we're working on leveraging the brand equity into expansive growth opportunity. In Watercraft Recreation, we're excited about Old Town's award winning revolutionary e Pedal Plus Drive.

Speaker 2

This cutting edge technology is a power assisted pedal drive that combines pedal and power to propel the fishing experience to the next level. This technology is new to the world and we're looking forward to shipping Old Towne Edel plus soon. While we're disappointed in our fiscal year results, we're laser focused on working hard to outperform the challenging marketplace and to improve our profitability Despite current economic headwinds and marketplace softness, we will continue to invest in our key strategic drivers, Understanding our consumers, sustaining innovation leadership, identifying new sources and paths of growth in our markets And continually optimizing our digital consumer experience. Our ongoing hard work on these priorities ensures that our Portfolio of market leading brands is well positioned for success and that we will continue to deliver long term growth for Johnson Outdoors. Now, I'll turn the call over to Dave for more details on the financials.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Helen. Good morning, everyone. I want to highlight a few items from the quarter and the year. As Helen mentioned, 4th quarter results were significantly impacted by the slower demand as well as high inventory at retail And customers managing inventory more tightly with Fishing's new Bow Mountain Motor transition. For fiscal 2023, operating profit margin was 1 point 8% compared to 8.9% in the previous fiscal year.

Speaker 3

Gross margin for the year was 36.8%, slightly improved from last fiscal year. While we experienced improved materials and freight costs versus last year, those gains were nearly offset by increases in inventory reserves and unfavorable absorption due to reduced sales volumes. Operating expenses increased 13% or $27,300,000 versus the prior year. Deferred compensation expense increased $9,300,000 as a result of marketing plan to market and was entirely offset in other income. We also recognized $2,400,000 in expense related to the exit of the Eureka brand.

Speaker 3

Additionally, we experienced higher warranty expense of approximately $7,000,000 Research and development costs Increased $3,700,000 and higher marketing and professional services costs further drove the operating Expense increase versus fiscal 2022. Net income for the year was $19,500,000 versus the prior fiscal year of 44 point $5,000,000 The effective tax rate was flat to prior year at 24.4%. Inventory remains elevated and is higher than last year by about $12,800,000 We're focused on carefully managing inventory levels as we navigate a And I expect we'll see inventory levels decline by the end of the fiscal year. Looking ahead, we remain focused on strengthening our operating margins with an active cost savings program and prudent expense management. Our balance sheet continues to have no debt and our cash position enables us to invest in opportunities to strengthen the business.

Speaker 3

We remain confident in our ability to deliver long term value and consistently pay out cash dividends to our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call over to the operator for the Q and A session.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question and answer session.

Speaker 4

First, just in terms of the

Operator

Sorry, our first question comes from Anthony with Sidoti. Anthony, your line is open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Okay. So again, yes, thank you for taking the questions. So first, I guess, just in terms of how the I guess first just in terms of the inventory comment at retail, are you seeing this across all your brands or is it more isolated to fishing? Just wanted to get a better understanding of what's going on in the marketplace.

Speaker 2

We do see It varies by business, but there is inventory at retail that Is slowing down demand making our buyers a little bit questionable about the orders they place. So I think it really is in the outdoor industry pretty much across Gordon.

Speaker 4

Okay. Got it. Okay. And then can you comment on the monthly Progression of sales throughout the quarter and given that you're more than 2 months into your Current 1st fiscal quarter, what can you share with us in regards to demand so far? Is it Similar to the Q4 or better or worse, just ballpark kind of estimate, if you could share that, that'd be great.

Speaker 3

Yes, I mean, the quarter kind of progressed, it declined kind of as the season wound down. So we've really seen it Go back to traditional seasonal marketplace, if you will, but it is depressed versus Where it probably should be. So as we look kind of look into the next quarter, we're still seeing a challenging marketplace. So, we're hopeful for a good season, but right now it looks pretty challenging.

Speaker 4

Got you.

Speaker 2

Okay. It's a swing. It's really a swing in the post pandemic. We had such great performance and now It is. It's getting back to more of a stable market, which I think everybody thought was coming.

Speaker 2

It's always hard to predict the level of it, but it's we've got to work through That period, but hopefully the season does have the energy we need.

Speaker 4

So should we kind of go back and look at our models and like basically see the So now that we're past the pandemic, like you said, the demand has dropped off. I mean, are we getting back to the seasonality that you had, let's In fiscal 2018 or fiscal 2019 where you saw really March June quarters with big revenue numbers and then the I guess the shoulder season like the December September quarters, is that what you're seeing now? Is that Fair assessment of how things will look like in fiscal 2024 and beyond?

Speaker 3

Yes. I believe we'll get back to traditional seasonality of the business. Yes. And as we pointed out last year's Q4 was really high due to We're filling the shelves. So we'll get back to more of a traditional portion of the season.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thanks, Dave. So, you mentioned the new product lines from Encoda And from Old Town. Have you guys already seen purchase orders come in for those Or how should we think about that?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we traditionally get The order is pre season, but as we said, we do have the our customers have inventory on shelf and that's a key. We've got they've got to move through that. So I would say that the uncertainty is due to the inventory they've And we're hoping that it moves through, and we will see those orders come in, but we are seeing them. They're coming in now.

Speaker 4

Okay. That's good to hear. And then in terms of the Q4, so the inventory reserve Impact on gross margin, can you comment on that?

Speaker 3

Yes. Part of it was due to the exit of the Eureka business, but also just across the board, we were looking at our inventories and decided to take some reserves To the levels. So I mean, I feel good about the inventory level that we have now and that it's saleable, but We just we took some increased reserves kind of across the board.

Speaker 4

Got you. Okay. So overall, you don't think there is much in terms of Inventory obsolescence risk?

Speaker 3

As long as the marketplace and the consumer behaves As we expect, I think we're in okay shape. We obviously have to get those inventory levels down, but if we have a season that we expect, we'll be able to do that.

Speaker 4

Got you. Okay. Thanks for that, Dave. And then, so I look back, it looks When you announced the Eureka exit, you talked about a $4,000,000 charge and it looks like it was $2,400,000 instead. Is that Correct.

Speaker 3

No, it was $2,400,000 hit the operating expense line. Yes, that was just the operating expense effect and part of that was actually a contribution of inventory, a donation of inventory. So the rest is in the gross margin.

Speaker 4

Okay. All right. So overall, so The gross margin, okay, there was some impact from Eureka. Okay, got it. Okay.

Speaker 4

And then You also called out higher warranty, R and D, marketing and other costs. Any way you guys can quantify that? And Yes. Do you think these higher costs are something that we should also expect in fiscal 2024?

Speaker 3

I think the warranty expense is getting back to a normalized level. So I would expect that to level off and move the sales Going forward, I don't I think that's, that was a little bit of the increase was a little bit of a one time increase. So, I think the marketing expense, the ad promo expense, I think that's something that we'll continue to we'll keep investing there to make sure we Maintain our market viability and our share there. So I think that'll be something that will remain elevated and we'll continue to invest there.

Speaker 2

We do this has been a very competitive marketplace and we've got we're investing in the promotions to make sure that Where we compete from a pricing standpoint and from consumer promotion standpoint.

Speaker 4

Got you. Okay. Thanks, Helen. And just a couple of quick other questions, if I may. So, as far as the defined cost savings program that you talked about that, how should we think about I guess, first, if you could just exchange That a little bit more give us maybe some details as to what you're trying to do on the cost savings side and then How should we think about the impact on your profitability as

Speaker 3

a result of that? Sure. I mean, we've got An intentional and broad cost savings program that we feel good about going into this fiscal year. Most of it is focused on product cost in the supply chain. And like I said, it's intentional.

Speaker 3

And I think it's going to bear some fruit for us this year and into the future. So that will help gross margin and Hopefully, it will help in a meaningful way, but we got to see it play out. We'll also continue to look at expenses Beyond just the product cost and make sure we're prudent there and look throughout the enterprise for efficiencies with our expenses too.

Speaker 4

Got you, Tate. And lastly, do you have an estimate for CapEx for F24?

Speaker 3

I think it will be comparable to 23.

Speaker 4

Okay. Understood. Okay. All right. Well, thanks very much and best of luck.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Amy. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back to Helen Johnson Leopold for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Just want to thank you all for joining, and I hope everybody has a happy holiday. Thank you. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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