TSE:BYD Boyd Group Services Q4 2022 Earnings Report C$209.60 +8.50 (+4.23%) As of 05/8/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Boyd Group Services EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.92Consensus EPS C$1.05Beat/MissMissed by -C$0.13One Year Ago EPSN/ABoyd Group Services Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$864.99 millionExpected Revenue$832.79 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$32.20 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABoyd Group Services Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2022Date3/22/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, March 22, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Boyd Group Services Q4 2022 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 22, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Boyd Group Services Inc. 4th Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions asked could constitute forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties related to Boyd's future financial or business performance actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward looking statements. The risk factors that may affect results are detailed in Boyd's annual information form and other periodic filings and registration statements, you can access these documents at SEDAR's database found at sedar.com. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference is being recorded today, it's Wednesday, March 22, 2023. Operator00:00:46I would now like to introduce Mr. Tim O'Dea, President and Chief Executive Officer of Boyd Group Services Inc. Please go ahead, Mr. O'Day. Speaker 100:00:55Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's call. On the call with me today is Jeff Murray, our Vice President of Finance and Interim Chief Financial Officer. At the end of 2022, Pat Pat Patti retired from the role of Executive Vice President and CFO. As the search to succeed him continues, we've appointed Jeff Murray as Interim CFO effective January 1, 2023. Speaker 100:01:21We believe Jeff's long tenure skills and experience service will serve us well during this search period and enable us to carry out our goals and achieve our long term goals. We released our 2022 Q4 and year end results before markets opened today. You can access our news release as well as our complete financial statements and management discussion and analysis on our website at boyntgroup.com. Our news release, financial statements and MD and A have also been filed on SEDAR this morning. On today's call, we will discuss the financial results For the 3 month period ended December 31, 2022, provide a general business update and discuss our long term growth strategy. Speaker 100:02:07We will then open the call for questions. In 2022, VoIP was able to achieve record sales certain challenges and demonstrate resilience in the face of many challenges, including supply chain disruption and an extremely tight labor market with the accompanying wage pressure. We are pleased with the progress we made in 2022 and in particular the level of same store sales growth building capacity to increase staffing and negotiating sufficient price increases to recover lost margin from wage pressure. For the year ended December 31, 2022, we reported sales of $2,400,000,000 an increase of 29.9% over the prior year, certain revenue streams are driven by same store sales increases of 19.8% and contributions from 136 certain new locations had adopted in operation for the full comparative period. Gross margin decreased to 44.7 percent of sales compared to 44.8% in the comparative period. Speaker 100:03:23The prior period included the recognition of Canada emergency wage subsidy for SUS of approximately $4,000,000 The gross margin percentage was negatively impacted certain market conditions have been Speaker 200:03:46very strong. We expect Speaker 100:03:46the supply chain disruptions, which resulted in a negative impact on margins. While pricing increased and improvements were made throughout the year, labor margins were negatively impacted by the extraordinarily tight labor market, which continued to result in increased waste costs certain customers are encouraged to both retain and recruit staff. The shortage of labor and increasing vehicle complexity also resulted in a higher mix of parts sales certain Speaker 300:04:13factors in relation Speaker 100:04:13to labor. These negative impacts were partially offset by performance based credit relief to address the constraints caused by current market conditions certain operating expenses increased to $194,100,000 compared to the same period of the prior year, primarily as a result of increased sales based on same store sales as well as location growth. The prior period includes the recognition of SUS of approximately $5,800,000 Operating expenses were negatively impacted by the extraordinarily tight labor market, which resulted in increased wage and benefit costs to both retain and recruit staff. Also impacting the year ended December 31, 2022 were increased support costs related to recruitment and training, certain costs associated with the technician development program as well as support costs related to the expansion of the while operating way practices certain corporate business processes. Adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31, 2022 was $273,500,000 compared to $219,500,000 in the same period of the prior year. Speaker 100:05:26The $54,000,000 increase service revenue was primarily the result of improved sales levels. Adjusted EBITDA for the year was constrained by technician capacity certain results are negatively impacted by wage inflation and supply chain disruption. In total, adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31, 2020 Suez payment of approximately $9,800,000 we reported net earnings of $41,000,000 compared to $23,500,000 in the same period of the prior year. Adjusted net earnings per share increased from $1.30 to $1.97 The increase in adjusted net earnings per share service revenue is primarily attributable to increased sales, partially offset by the lower gross margin percentage and the higher levels of operating expenses. Now moving on to Q4 results. Speaker 100:06:23During the Q4, we recorded sales of 637,100,000 23.4 percent increase when compared to the same period of 2021. Our same store sales excluding foreign exchange service increased by 20.7% in the 4th quarter. Same store sales benefited from pricing increases and high levels of demand for services as well as an increase in production capacity related to technician hiring and the growth in the technician development program. Although ongoing staffing constraints and supply chain disruption continued to impact the sales levels that could be achieved during the Q4 of 2022. Sales also increased based on higher repair costs due to increasing vehicle complexity, increased scanning and calibration services as well as general market inflation. Speaker 100:07:17Same store sales in Canada continued to recover, this recovery continued to be impacted by supply chain disruption as well as labor capacity constraints in the Q4 of 2022. Gross margin was 44.3% in the Q4 of 2022 compared to 43.5% certain earnings were achieved in the same Speaker 400:07:39period of Speaker 100:07:402021. Gross margin percentage benefited from pricing increases, including performance based credit relief certain market conditions and increased scanning and calibration services. These benefits were partially offset by a higher mix of part sales in relation to labor. Increasing vehicle complexity certain results resulted in a higher mix of parts sales in relation to labor. The lower gross margin percentage in the Q4 of 2022 certain market conditions are expected to be a result of the Q3 of 2022 is primarily the result of variability in parts sourcing and pricing, which is resulting in slightly greater part margin variability quarter to quarter. Speaker 100:08:22The margin for the year ended December 31, 2022 certain earnings per share is within the normal range. Adjusted EBITDA or EBITDA adjusted for fair value adjustments to financial instruments certain costs related to acquisitions and transactions was $74,700,000 an increase of 30 In total, adjusted EBITDA for the 3 months ended December 31, 2021 benefited from the SUEZ in the amount of 2,300,000 Net earnings for the Q4 of 2022 was $14,200,000 compared to $4,900,000 in the same period of 2021. Excluding fair value adjustments and acquisition and transaction costs, adjusted net earnings for the Q4 of 2022 were $14,600,000 certain earnings were $0.68 per share compared to adjusted net earnings of $5,900,000 or $0.28 per share in the same period of the prior year. Adjusted net earnings for the period was positively impacted by higher levels of sales and higher gross margin percentage, certain expenses were partially offset by higher levels of operating expenses. At the end of the year, we had total debt net of cash of $963,000,000 compared to $940,800,000 at September 30, 2022, dollars 957,000,000 at the end of 2021. Speaker 100:09:55Stifel, net of cash increased when compared to December 31, 2021, primarily as a result of an increase in lease liabilities certain revenue is driven by lease renewal activity. During the year ended December 31, 2022, the company completed the sale leaseback transactions for proceeds of $55,100,000 The increase in startup locations resulted in a buildup of real estate assets. The company's strategy has been to not hold real estate and the sale leaseback transactions allow the company to replenish capital CIRR is continuing to use these properties. Based on the confidence we have in our business, we announced an increase to our dividends Surprised by 2.1 percent to $0.588 per share on an annualized basis in Canadian dollars beginning in the Q4 of 2022. This is the 15th consecutive year that we've increased dividends to shareholders. Speaker 100:10:54During 2023, we plan to make cash capital expenditures excluding those related to acquisition and development of new locations within the range of 1.6% to 1.8% of sales. In addition to these capital expenditures, we plan to invest in network technology upgrades to further strengthen our technology and security infrastructure and prepare for advanced technology needs in the future. This investment is expected in 2023 to be in the range of $5,000,000 to $8,000,000 with similar investments it's expected in 2024 2025. These investments align with our ESG sustainability roadmap we announced our new 5 year growth strategy in which Boyd intends to again double the size of the business over a 5 year period from 2021 to 2025 certain revenue is based on 2019 constant currency revenues, implying a compound annual growth rate of 15%. Given the high level of location growth in 2021 and the strong same store sales growth in 2022, we remain confident that we were on track to achieve our long term growth goals. Speaker 100:12:12Our intake location strategy is intended to drive same store sales growth at times when capacity is not constrained. In late 2022 in early 2023, we decided to close many intake locations in the U. S. Based on the reality of our current capacity constraints. We plan to increase production location growth during 2023 in relation to 2022. Speaker 100:12:37We are pleased to have opened or acquired 17 locations thus far in the quarter, all of which have been single locations and the pipeline to add new locations and to expand into new markets is robust. We remain focused on our key challenges of building our capacity through increased staffing we're benefiting from increased scanning and calibration revenue. However, there's also been a continued shift certain parts in relation to labor, driven by increasing repair complexity. Thus far, in the Q1 of 2023, same store sales results have been consistent with the growth experienced over the past few quarters. The balance of 2023 will have higher comparative periods for which same store sales will be measured against. Speaker 100:13:36Workforce initiatives such as the technician development program our service are having a positive impact on capacity and ongoing investments in technology, equipment and training position us well for continued operational execution. We remain committed to addressing the labor market challenges so that we can service additional demand through initiatives such as the technician development program. Price increases for labor continue to work their way through the system market by market and client by client. This has resulted in gradual improvement in labor margins. The timeline for when this issue resolves is difficult to predict, the impact is expected to be less and less as wage increases stabilize and pricing matures. Speaker 100:14:22As communicated previously, performance based pricing programs may cause margin to vary on a quarter by quarter basis. Throughout 2022, we made progress on the priority areas in each of the environmental, social and the governance pillars our first ESG report published in March of 'twenty two, we recognize that we have the potential to deliver significant positive impacts to society and the environment. We look forward to publishing our second ESG report in the coming months. In summary and in closing, I continue to be incredibly proud of our team who have adjusted to the new environment certain customers are working hard to position us well for the future. With that, I would like to open the call for questions. Speaker 100:15:10Operator? Operator00:15:30Your signal does reach our equipment. We'll hear first from Chris Murray at ATB Capital Markets. Speaker 200:15:43Good morning. I just have a couple of quick questions for you folks. Just thinking about kind of the mix of work as we go into 2023. It sounds like pricing is continuing to improve. I was just sort of I'm curious about what you folks are seeing in terms of kind of part and labor dynamics. Speaker 200:16:03And I was wondering if you could maybe make some comments what you're seeing around scanning and calibration and how that you think will play in through the margin profile as we get to call it more normalized operations or pricing maybe later in 'twenty three and into 'twenty four? Speaker 100:16:24Yes, there are a few different questions in there, Chris. But I think on the first one as it relates to parts, I think we're seeing 2 things impact our revenue mix And skewing more toward parts, one is one a trend that I think will continue and that's just increasing vehicle complexity certain higher part content. When we look at the mix of vehicles, newer vehicles have a higher number of parts and a higher average cost of part we're going to repair the older vehicles. So as we begin to grow newer vehicles as part of our mix, certain customers will likely see that shift. The second issue really relates to capacity constraints. Speaker 100:17:08When a non drive vehicle comes to one of our facilities, we really have to address it, which means we may be scheduling out lighter hit service drivable vehicles and those lighter hit drivable vehicles would tend to have a better labor to parts mix than the non drive vehicles. Speaker 300:17:27Maybe Tim just to add as well, the fact that we've got some supply chain challenges still and the backlog does mean that sometimes we have to choose the least optimal choice in terms of the parts selection. Speaker 100:17:41Yes. So we've had for the year, we've had a richer mix of OE parts than what we've historically had because of limited availability or less availability of aftermarket, although we have seen some improvement in the availability of aftermarket, particularly in the Q4. Speaker 300:17:54And that should smooth out over time. Yes. Speaker 100:17:56As it relates to the calibration and the scanning, scanning and calibration has continue to gradually become a richer part of our mix of sales and where we don't go into the specific details on that, It's a trend that I would expect to continue. Newer vehicles require more calibration operations. We our business practice is to really scan everything that comes in to identify any potential Damage to ADAS components and then obviously repair those that require repair as a part of the repair. So I'd say that's a favorable tailwind and the while the margins on that are some of the less attractive because much of it is sublet. Our strategy is to bring more of it in house over time, Speaker 200:19:00And then one other question just on acquisitions. I think in your prepared remarks Speaker 500:19:05and the MD and A, Speaker 200:19:06you talked about completing 40 certain acquisitions in 2022 and then talking about growing, I guess, Stores this year, should we think about that as growing above like adding more than 40? You've done 17 so far year to date. Look, how should we think about scaling that in terms of the acceleration? And as you also noted, most of the store growth so far has been single store. Any thoughts around multi store and how that might be shaping up as we go further into the year? Speaker 100:19:44To answer your first question, I think in our MD and A, we did specifically say that we expected to grow at a faster rate from a unit standpoint in 2023 than we did in 2022. I think the fact that we've opened 17 partway through the Q1 is a good indication of that. Those were all single shops. As most people know, the single shops have a higher return on capital than multi shop operations. And we believe we can accomplish our double 25 goal without significant multi shop investment. Speaker 100:20:20That doesn't mean that we won't acquire multi shop operators. If there's one that's attractive that makes sense, we're willing to make those investments, but we're Also pretty focused on single shop acquisitions in Greenfield Brownfield Development. Speaker 200:20:36Okay, fair enough. Thanks folks. Operator00:20:45Our next question today comes from Steve Hansen with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:20:52Good morning, Steve. Speaker 400:20:52Yes. Good morning, guys. Tim, how should we think about the intake center closures and that strategy shift from a revenue standpoint? Are they I understand the concept that the capacity is already constrained, so there's no real need to have those shops or those intake centers spring volume over, but do you expect any actual material impact on the top line from those closures? Speaker 100:21:15Not at all. No, we were trading off work. And the reason that we closed a number of intake centers is that we didn't have capacity to service the incremental business and it didn't make sense to bear the expense. And while the expense wasn't material, It just didn't make sense to continue that. We do have a very successful model. Speaker 100:21:39We know how to deploy it. So I think When the at whatever point the market returns to demand, where we're really looking to identify more demand, I'm confident in our ability to pull the intake center strategy back in. We know how to execute it and it does work well, Just isn't necessary in the current environment. Speaker 400:22:02Okay. That's very helpful. And then just on the margin front, it sounds like you're pretty confident in labor margins improving incrementally as you get additional price and perhaps some additional throughput. I just wanted to be a little bit more clear on the idea around complexity and or severity. Is there a difference between that severity and new car impact that you're describing, I'm just trying to parse out some of the differences there. Speaker 400:22:27I think as you described in earlier Chris' comment, there's the new car issue, but there's also a drivable versus non drive. Would you just maybe help us understand that issue a little bit better as it relates to margins? Speaker 100:22:40I think the anytime you shift mix toward parts and away from labor in terms of the total mix, your overall gross margin is going to be impacted because part margins, while it's not exact, margins are about half of what labor margins are. So that shift will impact the overall gross margin. And the cause of the higher mix of parts right now, one is a systematic or not systematic, it's A trend that will continue, which is vehicle complexity. The other trend is high used car values, which are causing insurers to repair cars that in a normal environment would have been totaled out. And those cars tend to have more damage because they're high value repairs. Speaker 100:23:32That I would expect to normalize as used car values normalize and total loss rates normalize. Speaker 400:23:41Perfect. Very helpful. And then just lastly on as we think about that growth profile You referred to this earlier. Are the single shop the decision to accelerate the single shop acquisitions is clearly notable thus far in the quarter. Is the pace that we're seeing today thus far in Q1 pace that you expect you can continue or accelerate through the year? Speaker 400:24:03Thanks. Speaker 100:24:05I think the only guidance we've really provided on that, Steve, is that we're confident in our ability to double the size of the business And we expect new units to be above what we had in 2023. The challenge with providing specifics on that is that deals sometimes don't go through, but we're pretty confident. We've got a good pipeline of accretive opportunities And we've got a great team in place to execute on those. Speaker 400:24:35Okay. Thanks for the time. Operator00:24:39Our next question will come from the line of Bret Jordan at Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:24:46On that growth question, Speaker 600:24:49as you sort of look around the environment and clearly some others consolidating the collision space as well. Do you see any change or have others taken a step back just given the pressures on internal costs and capacity. Do you see yourself, I guess, in a changed competitive situation either better or worse than you were a couple of years ago in M and A? Speaker 100:25:11We're pretty focused on single shops right now in Greenfield Brownfield development. And on that front, I'm not sure we've seen much of a change even over the past several years. I'm not sure that we get asked this question every quarter and I usually answer by saying, I think it's too early to tell. I think what we have to look at is do some of the Growing private equity backed competitors continue to buy multi shop operations and they don't disclose their values, but They continue to be aggressive with those acquisitions. And I think I'm not sure what the answer to that is yet. Speaker 100:25:52What I am sure of is that we have a single shopping greenfield's brownfield strategy that we're confident combined with same store sales growth CIRR can allow us to achieve our growth goals. Speaker 600:26:04Okay, great. And then on the mix shift, obviously, more parts than labor. Could you sort of maybe bucket how much of that has also in the parts mix? I think you called out more OE parts because of aftermarket supply. But Could you sort of give us a perspective where we were in the quarter maybe versus a pre pandemic percentage certain alternative part versus OE and then percentage of parts versus labor? Speaker 100:26:34We don't disclose that specifically, Brett. I think improvement in the availability of alternative parts. And I know LKQ also reported that they had much better fill rates and availability. So We've seen that and that's good because it helps us keep repair costs down. And as many people know, We generally have better margins on aftermarket parts than we would on OE. Speaker 100:27:07But that's probably all I can give you on it. Okay. Speaker 600:27:10And then one quick last question. You said there's no real top line impact from shutting intake centers. Is there any cost associated in the short term with shutting intake centers? Speaker 100:27:19There is some cost, it's not material. Intake centers are staffed with 1 individual And typically not much other expense associated with it. Speaker 600:27:30Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:27:41Today our next question will come from the line of Michael Doumet at Scotiabank. Speaker 100:27:48Good morning, Michael. Speaker 700:27:49Hey, good morning, guys. Hey, Tim. Hey, Jeff. First question is actually a clarification. In your commentary, you talked about Q1 to date same store sales growth being with the growth the last few quarters. Speaker 700:28:01I mean, is that to mean to us at least that's going to be roughly 20% year on year in line with the last, I guess, 3, 4 quarters? Speaker 100:28:11Yes, we're really just referring to what we've seen thus far in the quarter. So I think we're clearly signaling that we're going to have pretty respectable same store sales growth this quarter, we expect that. But beginning in Q2, we saw significant same store sales growth last year at this time. I think Q2 was over 14%, Q2 was over 22%, And Q3 was in the 20% range. So we're moving up against pretty significant comp periods. Speaker 100:28:47So that was really what we were trying to bring clarity to. Speaker 700:28:51Yes. That makes sense to me. I guess just if I'm running the math, with 20% same store sales growth Q1, revenue per location so far, again so far through Q1, it looks like it's it's going to increase 5% to 7% quarter on quarter. So again, just I was wondering if you could comment on if that math is right, plus what the sequential improvement is a reflection of and I'm wondering if that's price or volume and if that shouldn't necessarily flow down to the bottom line? Speaker 100:29:22Yes. I think it's a combination of price and volume. We're certainly benefiting from price increases. We're benefiting from some increased vehicle complexity, although that does use labor capacity because the average repair today has both more parts And more labor hours on it. Labor is really our constraint. Speaker 100:29:43I don't know if you have anything you want to add Speaker 300:29:44to that? Well, I guess, productive capacity is we've seen some improvement with that. Our technician development program, we're really impressed with how it's developed over the course of the year. And so That's making a difference too. Speaker 100:29:56And we've had improvement in technician staffing generally. So those are really the drivers. Speaker 700:30:04Okay. Yes. No, that looks good for Q1. I guess second question, maybe to dig into the operating expenses a little bit. For the year, up 31% versus 21%. Speaker 700:30:15By comparison, the average store count, I think, increased about 7%. So presumably a lot of that is inflationary pressures, but there's a balance that's associated with the corporate initiatives, and I'm assuming it's mainly the TDP. Given Speaker 100:30:29some of Speaker 700:30:29these project based investments, like how should we think about OpEx growth into 2023? Maybe just, like should we think of that as slowing down as some of these investments mature? Speaker 100:30:45We're certainly looking to drive more sales growth to absorb operating costs. We're very conscious of the fact that Our operating cost ratio is above historical levels. So we're Looking carefully at that and expect to absorb operating costs with sales growth over time. Speaker 300:31:09But there are inflationary pressures still that we're still seeing that we have to deal with. Speaker 100:31:14And we're benefiting from some inflationary pricing on the other side too. But we do lag and we've talked about this before, but we see things like wage increases or other utility cost increases and things that we don't have much control over that have gone up, but our pricing comes in more slowly. So we're going to continue to focus on pricing, on managing our business more effectively to recover our margins back to our historical levels. Speaker 700:31:47Got it. Okay. And before I pass the line, just one technicality, if you can clarify it. But just wondering if the salary of an unproductive technician, so somebody in the TDP in the 1st or second phase of the training, if that moves Speaker 100:32:10It moves once they are beginning to become productive with most cost of sales prior to that, it is in SG and A. Speaker 700:32:18Perfect. All right. Thanks a lot guys. Speaker 100:32:21Okay. Thanks. Thanks, Michael. Operator00:32:25We'll hear next from Daryl Young at TD Cowen. Speaker 100:32:30Hey, good morning Daryl. Speaker 200:32:33Just one quick one for me, following up on the parts mix and the impact on margins. Some of those complexities of repair are being structural. Does that prevent you from getting back to historic margin levels? Or is the number of parts and the operating leverage that's driven by the greater number of parts and same store sales growth offsetting such that you can get back to your historic overall margin level. Speaker 100:33:02Yes. Well, the parts is a headwind, although it does increase total revenue. But one of the other trends that's going the other way relates to calibration scanning and calibration services, which are also growing as we address more vehicles with ADAS equipment. So I think there are some offsetting factors that over time we expect to help us leverage our margin back up. Operator00:33:53Zachary Evershed or rather, pardon, Zachary Evershed with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:34:01Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Speaker 100:34:04Good morning, Zachary. Speaker 800:34:06So we saw a slight downtrend in the number of DRP relationships in 2022 for national MSOs and we did note that your top five concentration ticked up a bit. How are you thinking about your DRPs in the current environment? And do you think you're adjusting your competitive positioning? Speaker 100:34:28I'm not sure quite what you're getting at. I mean, DRPs is our primary source of revenue obviously. And we have grown with our larger partners. I'm not sure I completely understand Zachary what you're trying to get to. Speaker 800:34:47I guess what I'd be driving at is, do you see yourself increasing your business with DRP partners who have moved more quickly on wage increases? Speaker 100:35:00Yes. Well, we've talked about this over the last several quarters and we've been patient. We do have very limited capacity. And at some point, I think we have to make sure that we're serving the clients who allow us to get the returns that we need and to attract and retain the staff that's necessary to build our business. We don't take those decisions lightly, so we want to be really cautious and fairly patient about it. Speaker 100:35:29We've made a lot of progress with our clients and have seen greater parity in pricing, but there are still gaps. So I Do you think at some point we're going to have to remove capacity where we can't be as profitable as we need to be. We're just fairly cautious about what how and when we do that. Speaker 800:35:56Understood. And then if we think about those steps of creating capacity by raising wages to attract talent, service versus where we need to be for a balanced picture. Speaker 100:36:18Well, I probably can't speak fully to where the carriers are. I mean, but I read the same reports that others do and carriers have been aggressively seeking rate increases so that they can make their auto books profitable. Most of the carriers are not there yet certain customers are going to be able to see some continued increases. I don't know that we're fully dependent on carriers getting the increase we've been very successful to date getting increases from really all of our partners. So I would say that there is a complete dependency, but and we've seen good improvements from our clients over the last several quarters, and it really hasn't slowed down. Speaker 100:37:09So I think we're in We're probably we're certainly not done. We've got more work to do. But there seems to be a willingness on the part of our partners Speaker 800:37:27Thank you for that. And the trainees, where are they mostly coming from? Any industry in particular? Speaker 100:37:34Well, actually a lot of them come internally. They start in an entry level position in our company, somebody that's a detailer car washer and demonstrate their commitment to the company, their ability to show up to work every day, be on time had the right attitude and those are probably our preferred path for bringing them into TDP. We also have been using the TDP program to drive our inclusion and diversity initiatives. So we've recruited from trade schools and we've Try to identify some of our trade schools in the areas that will help us increase our diversity. We do have a number of women in the TDP program now, we're very proud of the progress that we've made there. Speaker 100:38:20But I think we're going to focus as much as we can on internal promotions in the TDP Because it's somebody that we know is committed and prepared to work hard to learn. And referrals. Speaker 300:38:34Referrals has been another channel that's been affected. Speaker 100:38:38But we also do recruit from trade schools. I mean It's a multi faceted approach and we've been very successful with recruiting and building our TDP. Speaker 800:38:52Great color. Thanks. And then just one last one. Given the pipeline for acquisitions in new locations this year, how do you feel about your balance sheet funding that? Speaker 100:39:02I feel really good about our balance sheet. We've got we're in we're in a great position. Our debt is conservative. We're generating good positive cash flow. And the focus that we have on single shop growth and I'm not saying that we're not going to look at multi shop growth, But the focus on single shop growth is not terribly burdensome from a total investment standpoint. Speaker 100:39:30So I feel really good about our balance sheet. Speaker 300:39:32Yes, we've made a lot of progress on our leverage ratio over the last year. And so that's been a certain important factor of getting our balance sheet where it needs to be. Speaker 800:39:42Appreciate that. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Operator00:39:47Our next question will come from Gary Ho at Desjardins. Go ahead please. Speaker 500:39:52Thanks, Andrew. Good morning. Yes, on the intake, just going back to the intake locations, the decision to close them down. And I think you mentioned this is more permanent than temporary. Are some of these intake stores at a specific dealership location? Speaker 500:40:09And if does that jeopardize that relationship? And just lastly, are you done with the intake location closures? Just noticed there's still a bunch in the Canada and a smaller number in the U. S. Speaker 100:40:21Yes, that's right. There are several in Canada and still a few in the U. S. It doesn't affect our dealer relationships. We have a relationship that goes beyond the intake center with those dealers, ties into OE certifications, ties into parts purchases. Speaker 100:40:41So no, we don't expect it to have any impact on dealer relationships. Speaker 500:40:46And are you mostly done with the closures there? Speaker 100:40:51Yes, we're mostly done with the closures. Speaker 500:40:54Great. And then my second question, just going to going back to the technicians. Just remind me, what's the average technician per single repair shop, just wondering the magnitude of the TDP program as it relates to kind of the number of technicians per shop? Speaker 100:41:13Yes, we don't actually disclose the number of technicians per shop, but the TDP program overall is a fairly meaningful part of our overall technician headcount. Obviously, it's not equal to it or even close to that, but it's it's pretty meaningful. And as the program is maturing, we're seeing a regular cadence of graduates we're moving out of TDP and then into our formal full time experienced technician workforce, and we're successfully replenishing Those graduates with new trainees. Speaker 500:41:50Okay, great. Thanks for the color. That's it for me. Speaker 100:41:53Thanks, Gary. Operator00:41:57Christa Friesen at CIBC, you have our next question. Speaker 900:42:02Great. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Good morning. I was just wondering on the TDP, do you have the opportunity to increase the capacity of it if you have enough interest? Speaker 100:42:16We have plenty of interest And we do have the ability to increase the capacity of it if we chose to do that. It does come with certain expense burden, we have a fairly sizable team that supports and manages the program. There is additional compensation to the mentors for the work that they do to help us develop the apprentice. There is a considerable amount of training expense, both the mentor training as well as 3rd party training, generally it's ICAR training, which is the organization that develops and service helps to deliver training to the industry, but the program is very scalable. Obviously, we built it from 200 at the beginning of last year to 400 when we reported in November. Speaker 100:43:09It's got tremendous support from the operational teams. We have enough mentors in the organization that we could grow the program further based on mentor interest. So it's definitely scalable. But we're trying to balance the expense associated with that versus just recruiting and focusing on experienced technicians as well. Speaker 300:43:34And we had a big step up last year. I mean that was a big step up, but I think it's just time to monitor it for a period of time. Speaker 100:43:42But we remain really pleased with the program and Excited with what it's delivering to our business. Speaker 900:43:51Okay, that's great. And then I was wondering if you could speak to even if it's just qualitatively, the retention that you're seeing at Boyd and if the wage increases you've implemented have been enough to at least retain the talent you do have. Maybe it's not enough to tracked enough talent, but just the retention that you're seeing. Speaker 100:44:17We don't give specifics on retention, but we've put a number of programs in place to improve retention and I think we've seen some positive results from that and we we are consistently reviewing our benefits. We're reviewing the rates that we pay technicians to make sure that we're competitive. We're proactive on that. We have leadership training initiatives in place to improve the ability of our frontline leaders to engage with their team members. We have put some other resources in place to help make sure that we're listening and responsive to our team members' needs. Speaker 100:44:56So we've had some good success. We've got more work to do and we have plans to do that. But overall, I'm pleased with our progress and expect us to continue to make further progress. Speaker 900:45:11Okay, great. And then I was just wondering, as you look at acquisitions, do you also Do you have a separate bucket where you consider kind of the mobile scanning and calibration business similar to the one you acquired in 2021, I believe? Speaker 100:45:29Yes, I think that's a fair way to look at it. We look at that for both our calibration business and our Auto Glass business, we think we have acquisition opportunities there as well. The majority of the acquisitions are still going to be collision related. And we've been pretty successful at organically growing our Auto Glass and Calibration business, but we're open to acquisitions in those Operator00:46:04our next question today will come from Jonathan Lamers at Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:46:10Thank you. Good Speaker 700:46:12morning. Just on the calibration business, Tim, you mentioned the opportunity there from internalizing the skill set. Do you see that as more of a 2023 opportunity or more of a 2024 opportunity based on your training plans? Speaker 100:46:32I would say both. We expect to grow that in 2023, but we won't get to the end stage in 2023. It's another skilled labor position that is not there's not a plentiful supply. We are growing our own and recruiting, but we've got plans in place to continue to grow market by market our operating in that Speaker 700:47:04area. Thanks. And just to circle up on the sequential improvement in the sales and the labor capacity comments. You mentioned that you did see some price increases from Q4 to Q1 or benefits from price increases that you saw improvement in labor capacity. Is it fair to say that you are getting further labor rate increases that are enabling more technician recruitment and retention? Speaker 700:47:28And is there any color you can provide us from recent insurance partner discussions and how that relates to the labor situation? Speaker 100:47:38Well, I I think the fact that we're seeing such good same store sales growth confirms that we're having success at growing our capacity. It's not all price. But I think it's going to be a continuing effort both to raise wages in the industry for the industry to attract from other segments. So we're certainly not done, but we're pleased with our progress. Speaker 700:48:09Thanks for your comments. Speaker 100:48:12Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:48:16And that was our final question in the queue from our audience this morning. Mr. Day Mr. O'Day rather, I will turn it back to you sir for any closing remarks that you have sir. Speaker 100:48:26Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call. And we look forward to reporting our Q1 results with you in May. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Boyd Group Services Inc. 4th Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions asked could constitute forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties related to Boyd's future financial or business performance actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward looking statements. The risk factors that may affect results are detailed in Boyd's annual information form and other periodic filings and registration statements, you can access these documents at SEDAR's database found at sedar.com. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference is being recorded today, it's Wednesday, March 22, 2023. Operator00:00:46I would now like to introduce Mr. Tim O'Dea, President and Chief Executive Officer of Boyd Group Services Inc. Please go ahead, Mr. O'Day. Speaker 100:00:55Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's call. On the call with me today is Jeff Murray, our Vice President of Finance and Interim Chief Financial Officer. At the end of 2022, Pat Pat Patti retired from the role of Executive Vice President and CFO. As the search to succeed him continues, we've appointed Jeff Murray as Interim CFO effective January 1, 2023. Speaker 100:01:21We believe Jeff's long tenure skills and experience service will serve us well during this search period and enable us to carry out our goals and achieve our long term goals. We released our 2022 Q4 and year end results before markets opened today. You can access our news release as well as our complete financial statements and management discussion and analysis on our website at boyntgroup.com. Our news release, financial statements and MD and A have also been filed on SEDAR this morning. On today's call, we will discuss the financial results For the 3 month period ended December 31, 2022, provide a general business update and discuss our long term growth strategy. Speaker 100:02:07We will then open the call for questions. In 2022, VoIP was able to achieve record sales certain challenges and demonstrate resilience in the face of many challenges, including supply chain disruption and an extremely tight labor market with the accompanying wage pressure. We are pleased with the progress we made in 2022 and in particular the level of same store sales growth building capacity to increase staffing and negotiating sufficient price increases to recover lost margin from wage pressure. For the year ended December 31, 2022, we reported sales of $2,400,000,000 an increase of 29.9% over the prior year, certain revenue streams are driven by same store sales increases of 19.8% and contributions from 136 certain new locations had adopted in operation for the full comparative period. Gross margin decreased to 44.7 percent of sales compared to 44.8% in the comparative period. Speaker 100:03:23The prior period included the recognition of Canada emergency wage subsidy for SUS of approximately $4,000,000 The gross margin percentage was negatively impacted certain market conditions have been Speaker 200:03:46very strong. We expect Speaker 100:03:46the supply chain disruptions, which resulted in a negative impact on margins. While pricing increased and improvements were made throughout the year, labor margins were negatively impacted by the extraordinarily tight labor market, which continued to result in increased waste costs certain customers are encouraged to both retain and recruit staff. The shortage of labor and increasing vehicle complexity also resulted in a higher mix of parts sales certain Speaker 300:04:13factors in relation Speaker 100:04:13to labor. These negative impacts were partially offset by performance based credit relief to address the constraints caused by current market conditions certain operating expenses increased to $194,100,000 compared to the same period of the prior year, primarily as a result of increased sales based on same store sales as well as location growth. The prior period includes the recognition of SUS of approximately $5,800,000 Operating expenses were negatively impacted by the extraordinarily tight labor market, which resulted in increased wage and benefit costs to both retain and recruit staff. Also impacting the year ended December 31, 2022 were increased support costs related to recruitment and training, certain costs associated with the technician development program as well as support costs related to the expansion of the while operating way practices certain corporate business processes. Adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31, 2022 was $273,500,000 compared to $219,500,000 in the same period of the prior year. Speaker 100:05:26The $54,000,000 increase service revenue was primarily the result of improved sales levels. Adjusted EBITDA for the year was constrained by technician capacity certain results are negatively impacted by wage inflation and supply chain disruption. In total, adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31, 2020 Suez payment of approximately $9,800,000 we reported net earnings of $41,000,000 compared to $23,500,000 in the same period of the prior year. Adjusted net earnings per share increased from $1.30 to $1.97 The increase in adjusted net earnings per share service revenue is primarily attributable to increased sales, partially offset by the lower gross margin percentage and the higher levels of operating expenses. Now moving on to Q4 results. Speaker 100:06:23During the Q4, we recorded sales of 637,100,000 23.4 percent increase when compared to the same period of 2021. Our same store sales excluding foreign exchange service increased by 20.7% in the 4th quarter. Same store sales benefited from pricing increases and high levels of demand for services as well as an increase in production capacity related to technician hiring and the growth in the technician development program. Although ongoing staffing constraints and supply chain disruption continued to impact the sales levels that could be achieved during the Q4 of 2022. Sales also increased based on higher repair costs due to increasing vehicle complexity, increased scanning and calibration services as well as general market inflation. Speaker 100:07:17Same store sales in Canada continued to recover, this recovery continued to be impacted by supply chain disruption as well as labor capacity constraints in the Q4 of 2022. Gross margin was 44.3% in the Q4 of 2022 compared to 43.5% certain earnings were achieved in the same Speaker 400:07:39period of Speaker 100:07:402021. Gross margin percentage benefited from pricing increases, including performance based credit relief certain market conditions and increased scanning and calibration services. These benefits were partially offset by a higher mix of part sales in relation to labor. Increasing vehicle complexity certain results resulted in a higher mix of parts sales in relation to labor. The lower gross margin percentage in the Q4 of 2022 certain market conditions are expected to be a result of the Q3 of 2022 is primarily the result of variability in parts sourcing and pricing, which is resulting in slightly greater part margin variability quarter to quarter. Speaker 100:08:22The margin for the year ended December 31, 2022 certain earnings per share is within the normal range. Adjusted EBITDA or EBITDA adjusted for fair value adjustments to financial instruments certain costs related to acquisitions and transactions was $74,700,000 an increase of 30 In total, adjusted EBITDA for the 3 months ended December 31, 2021 benefited from the SUEZ in the amount of 2,300,000 Net earnings for the Q4 of 2022 was $14,200,000 compared to $4,900,000 in the same period of 2021. Excluding fair value adjustments and acquisition and transaction costs, adjusted net earnings for the Q4 of 2022 were $14,600,000 certain earnings were $0.68 per share compared to adjusted net earnings of $5,900,000 or $0.28 per share in the same period of the prior year. Adjusted net earnings for the period was positively impacted by higher levels of sales and higher gross margin percentage, certain expenses were partially offset by higher levels of operating expenses. At the end of the year, we had total debt net of cash of $963,000,000 compared to $940,800,000 at September 30, 2022, dollars 957,000,000 at the end of 2021. Speaker 100:09:55Stifel, net of cash increased when compared to December 31, 2021, primarily as a result of an increase in lease liabilities certain revenue is driven by lease renewal activity. During the year ended December 31, 2022, the company completed the sale leaseback transactions for proceeds of $55,100,000 The increase in startup locations resulted in a buildup of real estate assets. The company's strategy has been to not hold real estate and the sale leaseback transactions allow the company to replenish capital CIRR is continuing to use these properties. Based on the confidence we have in our business, we announced an increase to our dividends Surprised by 2.1 percent to $0.588 per share on an annualized basis in Canadian dollars beginning in the Q4 of 2022. This is the 15th consecutive year that we've increased dividends to shareholders. Speaker 100:10:54During 2023, we plan to make cash capital expenditures excluding those related to acquisition and development of new locations within the range of 1.6% to 1.8% of sales. In addition to these capital expenditures, we plan to invest in network technology upgrades to further strengthen our technology and security infrastructure and prepare for advanced technology needs in the future. This investment is expected in 2023 to be in the range of $5,000,000 to $8,000,000 with similar investments it's expected in 2024 2025. These investments align with our ESG sustainability roadmap we announced our new 5 year growth strategy in which Boyd intends to again double the size of the business over a 5 year period from 2021 to 2025 certain revenue is based on 2019 constant currency revenues, implying a compound annual growth rate of 15%. Given the high level of location growth in 2021 and the strong same store sales growth in 2022, we remain confident that we were on track to achieve our long term growth goals. Speaker 100:12:12Our intake location strategy is intended to drive same store sales growth at times when capacity is not constrained. In late 2022 in early 2023, we decided to close many intake locations in the U. S. Based on the reality of our current capacity constraints. We plan to increase production location growth during 2023 in relation to 2022. Speaker 100:12:37We are pleased to have opened or acquired 17 locations thus far in the quarter, all of which have been single locations and the pipeline to add new locations and to expand into new markets is robust. We remain focused on our key challenges of building our capacity through increased staffing we're benefiting from increased scanning and calibration revenue. However, there's also been a continued shift certain parts in relation to labor, driven by increasing repair complexity. Thus far, in the Q1 of 2023, same store sales results have been consistent with the growth experienced over the past few quarters. The balance of 2023 will have higher comparative periods for which same store sales will be measured against. Speaker 100:13:36Workforce initiatives such as the technician development program our service are having a positive impact on capacity and ongoing investments in technology, equipment and training position us well for continued operational execution. We remain committed to addressing the labor market challenges so that we can service additional demand through initiatives such as the technician development program. Price increases for labor continue to work their way through the system market by market and client by client. This has resulted in gradual improvement in labor margins. The timeline for when this issue resolves is difficult to predict, the impact is expected to be less and less as wage increases stabilize and pricing matures. Speaker 100:14:22As communicated previously, performance based pricing programs may cause margin to vary on a quarter by quarter basis. Throughout 2022, we made progress on the priority areas in each of the environmental, social and the governance pillars our first ESG report published in March of 'twenty two, we recognize that we have the potential to deliver significant positive impacts to society and the environment. We look forward to publishing our second ESG report in the coming months. In summary and in closing, I continue to be incredibly proud of our team who have adjusted to the new environment certain customers are working hard to position us well for the future. With that, I would like to open the call for questions. Speaker 100:15:10Operator? Operator00:15:30Your signal does reach our equipment. We'll hear first from Chris Murray at ATB Capital Markets. Speaker 200:15:43Good morning. I just have a couple of quick questions for you folks. Just thinking about kind of the mix of work as we go into 2023. It sounds like pricing is continuing to improve. I was just sort of I'm curious about what you folks are seeing in terms of kind of part and labor dynamics. Speaker 200:16:03And I was wondering if you could maybe make some comments what you're seeing around scanning and calibration and how that you think will play in through the margin profile as we get to call it more normalized operations or pricing maybe later in 'twenty three and into 'twenty four? Speaker 100:16:24Yes, there are a few different questions in there, Chris. But I think on the first one as it relates to parts, I think we're seeing 2 things impact our revenue mix And skewing more toward parts, one is one a trend that I think will continue and that's just increasing vehicle complexity certain higher part content. When we look at the mix of vehicles, newer vehicles have a higher number of parts and a higher average cost of part we're going to repair the older vehicles. So as we begin to grow newer vehicles as part of our mix, certain customers will likely see that shift. The second issue really relates to capacity constraints. Speaker 100:17:08When a non drive vehicle comes to one of our facilities, we really have to address it, which means we may be scheduling out lighter hit service drivable vehicles and those lighter hit drivable vehicles would tend to have a better labor to parts mix than the non drive vehicles. Speaker 300:17:27Maybe Tim just to add as well, the fact that we've got some supply chain challenges still and the backlog does mean that sometimes we have to choose the least optimal choice in terms of the parts selection. Speaker 100:17:41Yes. So we've had for the year, we've had a richer mix of OE parts than what we've historically had because of limited availability or less availability of aftermarket, although we have seen some improvement in the availability of aftermarket, particularly in the Q4. Speaker 300:17:54And that should smooth out over time. Yes. Speaker 100:17:56As it relates to the calibration and the scanning, scanning and calibration has continue to gradually become a richer part of our mix of sales and where we don't go into the specific details on that, It's a trend that I would expect to continue. Newer vehicles require more calibration operations. We our business practice is to really scan everything that comes in to identify any potential Damage to ADAS components and then obviously repair those that require repair as a part of the repair. So I'd say that's a favorable tailwind and the while the margins on that are some of the less attractive because much of it is sublet. Our strategy is to bring more of it in house over time, Speaker 200:19:00And then one other question just on acquisitions. I think in your prepared remarks Speaker 500:19:05and the MD and A, Speaker 200:19:06you talked about completing 40 certain acquisitions in 2022 and then talking about growing, I guess, Stores this year, should we think about that as growing above like adding more than 40? You've done 17 so far year to date. Look, how should we think about scaling that in terms of the acceleration? And as you also noted, most of the store growth so far has been single store. Any thoughts around multi store and how that might be shaping up as we go further into the year? Speaker 100:19:44To answer your first question, I think in our MD and A, we did specifically say that we expected to grow at a faster rate from a unit standpoint in 2023 than we did in 2022. I think the fact that we've opened 17 partway through the Q1 is a good indication of that. Those were all single shops. As most people know, the single shops have a higher return on capital than multi shop operations. And we believe we can accomplish our double 25 goal without significant multi shop investment. Speaker 100:20:20That doesn't mean that we won't acquire multi shop operators. If there's one that's attractive that makes sense, we're willing to make those investments, but we're Also pretty focused on single shop acquisitions in Greenfield Brownfield Development. Speaker 200:20:36Okay, fair enough. Thanks folks. Operator00:20:45Our next question today comes from Steve Hansen with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:20:52Good morning, Steve. Speaker 400:20:52Yes. Good morning, guys. Tim, how should we think about the intake center closures and that strategy shift from a revenue standpoint? Are they I understand the concept that the capacity is already constrained, so there's no real need to have those shops or those intake centers spring volume over, but do you expect any actual material impact on the top line from those closures? Speaker 100:21:15Not at all. No, we were trading off work. And the reason that we closed a number of intake centers is that we didn't have capacity to service the incremental business and it didn't make sense to bear the expense. And while the expense wasn't material, It just didn't make sense to continue that. We do have a very successful model. Speaker 100:21:39We know how to deploy it. So I think When the at whatever point the market returns to demand, where we're really looking to identify more demand, I'm confident in our ability to pull the intake center strategy back in. We know how to execute it and it does work well, Just isn't necessary in the current environment. Speaker 400:22:02Okay. That's very helpful. And then just on the margin front, it sounds like you're pretty confident in labor margins improving incrementally as you get additional price and perhaps some additional throughput. I just wanted to be a little bit more clear on the idea around complexity and or severity. Is there a difference between that severity and new car impact that you're describing, I'm just trying to parse out some of the differences there. Speaker 400:22:27I think as you described in earlier Chris' comment, there's the new car issue, but there's also a drivable versus non drive. Would you just maybe help us understand that issue a little bit better as it relates to margins? Speaker 100:22:40I think the anytime you shift mix toward parts and away from labor in terms of the total mix, your overall gross margin is going to be impacted because part margins, while it's not exact, margins are about half of what labor margins are. So that shift will impact the overall gross margin. And the cause of the higher mix of parts right now, one is a systematic or not systematic, it's A trend that will continue, which is vehicle complexity. The other trend is high used car values, which are causing insurers to repair cars that in a normal environment would have been totaled out. And those cars tend to have more damage because they're high value repairs. Speaker 100:23:32That I would expect to normalize as used car values normalize and total loss rates normalize. Speaker 400:23:41Perfect. Very helpful. And then just lastly on as we think about that growth profile You referred to this earlier. Are the single shop the decision to accelerate the single shop acquisitions is clearly notable thus far in the quarter. Is the pace that we're seeing today thus far in Q1 pace that you expect you can continue or accelerate through the year? Speaker 400:24:03Thanks. Speaker 100:24:05I think the only guidance we've really provided on that, Steve, is that we're confident in our ability to double the size of the business And we expect new units to be above what we had in 2023. The challenge with providing specifics on that is that deals sometimes don't go through, but we're pretty confident. We've got a good pipeline of accretive opportunities And we've got a great team in place to execute on those. Speaker 400:24:35Okay. Thanks for the time. Operator00:24:39Our next question will come from the line of Bret Jordan at Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:24:46On that growth question, Speaker 600:24:49as you sort of look around the environment and clearly some others consolidating the collision space as well. Do you see any change or have others taken a step back just given the pressures on internal costs and capacity. Do you see yourself, I guess, in a changed competitive situation either better or worse than you were a couple of years ago in M and A? Speaker 100:25:11We're pretty focused on single shops right now in Greenfield Brownfield development. And on that front, I'm not sure we've seen much of a change even over the past several years. I'm not sure that we get asked this question every quarter and I usually answer by saying, I think it's too early to tell. I think what we have to look at is do some of the Growing private equity backed competitors continue to buy multi shop operations and they don't disclose their values, but They continue to be aggressive with those acquisitions. And I think I'm not sure what the answer to that is yet. Speaker 100:25:52What I am sure of is that we have a single shopping greenfield's brownfield strategy that we're confident combined with same store sales growth CIRR can allow us to achieve our growth goals. Speaker 600:26:04Okay, great. And then on the mix shift, obviously, more parts than labor. Could you sort of maybe bucket how much of that has also in the parts mix? I think you called out more OE parts because of aftermarket supply. But Could you sort of give us a perspective where we were in the quarter maybe versus a pre pandemic percentage certain alternative part versus OE and then percentage of parts versus labor? Speaker 100:26:34We don't disclose that specifically, Brett. I think improvement in the availability of alternative parts. And I know LKQ also reported that they had much better fill rates and availability. So We've seen that and that's good because it helps us keep repair costs down. And as many people know, We generally have better margins on aftermarket parts than we would on OE. Speaker 100:27:07But that's probably all I can give you on it. Okay. Speaker 600:27:10And then one quick last question. You said there's no real top line impact from shutting intake centers. Is there any cost associated in the short term with shutting intake centers? Speaker 100:27:19There is some cost, it's not material. Intake centers are staffed with 1 individual And typically not much other expense associated with it. Speaker 600:27:30Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:27:41Today our next question will come from the line of Michael Doumet at Scotiabank. Speaker 100:27:48Good morning, Michael. Speaker 700:27:49Hey, good morning, guys. Hey, Tim. Hey, Jeff. First question is actually a clarification. In your commentary, you talked about Q1 to date same store sales growth being with the growth the last few quarters. Speaker 700:28:01I mean, is that to mean to us at least that's going to be roughly 20% year on year in line with the last, I guess, 3, 4 quarters? Speaker 100:28:11Yes, we're really just referring to what we've seen thus far in the quarter. So I think we're clearly signaling that we're going to have pretty respectable same store sales growth this quarter, we expect that. But beginning in Q2, we saw significant same store sales growth last year at this time. I think Q2 was over 14%, Q2 was over 22%, And Q3 was in the 20% range. So we're moving up against pretty significant comp periods. Speaker 100:28:47So that was really what we were trying to bring clarity to. Speaker 700:28:51Yes. That makes sense to me. I guess just if I'm running the math, with 20% same store sales growth Q1, revenue per location so far, again so far through Q1, it looks like it's it's going to increase 5% to 7% quarter on quarter. So again, just I was wondering if you could comment on if that math is right, plus what the sequential improvement is a reflection of and I'm wondering if that's price or volume and if that shouldn't necessarily flow down to the bottom line? Speaker 100:29:22Yes. I think it's a combination of price and volume. We're certainly benefiting from price increases. We're benefiting from some increased vehicle complexity, although that does use labor capacity because the average repair today has both more parts And more labor hours on it. Labor is really our constraint. Speaker 100:29:43I don't know if you have anything you want to add Speaker 300:29:44to that? Well, I guess, productive capacity is we've seen some improvement with that. Our technician development program, we're really impressed with how it's developed over the course of the year. And so That's making a difference too. Speaker 100:29:56And we've had improvement in technician staffing generally. So those are really the drivers. Speaker 700:30:04Okay. Yes. No, that looks good for Q1. I guess second question, maybe to dig into the operating expenses a little bit. For the year, up 31% versus 21%. Speaker 700:30:15By comparison, the average store count, I think, increased about 7%. So presumably a lot of that is inflationary pressures, but there's a balance that's associated with the corporate initiatives, and I'm assuming it's mainly the TDP. Given Speaker 100:30:29some of Speaker 700:30:29these project based investments, like how should we think about OpEx growth into 2023? Maybe just, like should we think of that as slowing down as some of these investments mature? Speaker 100:30:45We're certainly looking to drive more sales growth to absorb operating costs. We're very conscious of the fact that Our operating cost ratio is above historical levels. So we're Looking carefully at that and expect to absorb operating costs with sales growth over time. Speaker 300:31:09But there are inflationary pressures still that we're still seeing that we have to deal with. Speaker 100:31:14And we're benefiting from some inflationary pricing on the other side too. But we do lag and we've talked about this before, but we see things like wage increases or other utility cost increases and things that we don't have much control over that have gone up, but our pricing comes in more slowly. So we're going to continue to focus on pricing, on managing our business more effectively to recover our margins back to our historical levels. Speaker 700:31:47Got it. Okay. And before I pass the line, just one technicality, if you can clarify it. But just wondering if the salary of an unproductive technician, so somebody in the TDP in the 1st or second phase of the training, if that moves Speaker 100:32:10It moves once they are beginning to become productive with most cost of sales prior to that, it is in SG and A. Speaker 700:32:18Perfect. All right. Thanks a lot guys. Speaker 100:32:21Okay. Thanks. Thanks, Michael. Operator00:32:25We'll hear next from Daryl Young at TD Cowen. Speaker 100:32:30Hey, good morning Daryl. Speaker 200:32:33Just one quick one for me, following up on the parts mix and the impact on margins. Some of those complexities of repair are being structural. Does that prevent you from getting back to historic margin levels? Or is the number of parts and the operating leverage that's driven by the greater number of parts and same store sales growth offsetting such that you can get back to your historic overall margin level. Speaker 100:33:02Yes. Well, the parts is a headwind, although it does increase total revenue. But one of the other trends that's going the other way relates to calibration scanning and calibration services, which are also growing as we address more vehicles with ADAS equipment. So I think there are some offsetting factors that over time we expect to help us leverage our margin back up. Operator00:33:53Zachary Evershed or rather, pardon, Zachary Evershed with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:34:01Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Speaker 100:34:04Good morning, Zachary. Speaker 800:34:06So we saw a slight downtrend in the number of DRP relationships in 2022 for national MSOs and we did note that your top five concentration ticked up a bit. How are you thinking about your DRPs in the current environment? And do you think you're adjusting your competitive positioning? Speaker 100:34:28I'm not sure quite what you're getting at. I mean, DRPs is our primary source of revenue obviously. And we have grown with our larger partners. I'm not sure I completely understand Zachary what you're trying to get to. Speaker 800:34:47I guess what I'd be driving at is, do you see yourself increasing your business with DRP partners who have moved more quickly on wage increases? Speaker 100:35:00Yes. Well, we've talked about this over the last several quarters and we've been patient. We do have very limited capacity. And at some point, I think we have to make sure that we're serving the clients who allow us to get the returns that we need and to attract and retain the staff that's necessary to build our business. We don't take those decisions lightly, so we want to be really cautious and fairly patient about it. Speaker 100:35:29We've made a lot of progress with our clients and have seen greater parity in pricing, but there are still gaps. So I Do you think at some point we're going to have to remove capacity where we can't be as profitable as we need to be. We're just fairly cautious about what how and when we do that. Speaker 800:35:56Understood. And then if we think about those steps of creating capacity by raising wages to attract talent, service versus where we need to be for a balanced picture. Speaker 100:36:18Well, I probably can't speak fully to where the carriers are. I mean, but I read the same reports that others do and carriers have been aggressively seeking rate increases so that they can make their auto books profitable. Most of the carriers are not there yet certain customers are going to be able to see some continued increases. I don't know that we're fully dependent on carriers getting the increase we've been very successful to date getting increases from really all of our partners. So I would say that there is a complete dependency, but and we've seen good improvements from our clients over the last several quarters, and it really hasn't slowed down. Speaker 100:37:09So I think we're in We're probably we're certainly not done. We've got more work to do. But there seems to be a willingness on the part of our partners Speaker 800:37:27Thank you for that. And the trainees, where are they mostly coming from? Any industry in particular? Speaker 100:37:34Well, actually a lot of them come internally. They start in an entry level position in our company, somebody that's a detailer car washer and demonstrate their commitment to the company, their ability to show up to work every day, be on time had the right attitude and those are probably our preferred path for bringing them into TDP. We also have been using the TDP program to drive our inclusion and diversity initiatives. So we've recruited from trade schools and we've Try to identify some of our trade schools in the areas that will help us increase our diversity. We do have a number of women in the TDP program now, we're very proud of the progress that we've made there. Speaker 100:38:20But I think we're going to focus as much as we can on internal promotions in the TDP Because it's somebody that we know is committed and prepared to work hard to learn. And referrals. Speaker 300:38:34Referrals has been another channel that's been affected. Speaker 100:38:38But we also do recruit from trade schools. I mean It's a multi faceted approach and we've been very successful with recruiting and building our TDP. Speaker 800:38:52Great color. Thanks. And then just one last one. Given the pipeline for acquisitions in new locations this year, how do you feel about your balance sheet funding that? Speaker 100:39:02I feel really good about our balance sheet. We've got we're in we're in a great position. Our debt is conservative. We're generating good positive cash flow. And the focus that we have on single shop growth and I'm not saying that we're not going to look at multi shop growth, But the focus on single shop growth is not terribly burdensome from a total investment standpoint. Speaker 100:39:30So I feel really good about our balance sheet. Speaker 300:39:32Yes, we've made a lot of progress on our leverage ratio over the last year. And so that's been a certain important factor of getting our balance sheet where it needs to be. Speaker 800:39:42Appreciate that. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Operator00:39:47Our next question will come from Gary Ho at Desjardins. Go ahead please. Speaker 500:39:52Thanks, Andrew. Good morning. Yes, on the intake, just going back to the intake locations, the decision to close them down. And I think you mentioned this is more permanent than temporary. Are some of these intake stores at a specific dealership location? Speaker 500:40:09And if does that jeopardize that relationship? And just lastly, are you done with the intake location closures? Just noticed there's still a bunch in the Canada and a smaller number in the U. S. Speaker 100:40:21Yes, that's right. There are several in Canada and still a few in the U. S. It doesn't affect our dealer relationships. We have a relationship that goes beyond the intake center with those dealers, ties into OE certifications, ties into parts purchases. Speaker 100:40:41So no, we don't expect it to have any impact on dealer relationships. Speaker 500:40:46And are you mostly done with the closures there? Speaker 100:40:51Yes, we're mostly done with the closures. Speaker 500:40:54Great. And then my second question, just going to going back to the technicians. Just remind me, what's the average technician per single repair shop, just wondering the magnitude of the TDP program as it relates to kind of the number of technicians per shop? Speaker 100:41:13Yes, we don't actually disclose the number of technicians per shop, but the TDP program overall is a fairly meaningful part of our overall technician headcount. Obviously, it's not equal to it or even close to that, but it's it's pretty meaningful. And as the program is maturing, we're seeing a regular cadence of graduates we're moving out of TDP and then into our formal full time experienced technician workforce, and we're successfully replenishing Those graduates with new trainees. Speaker 500:41:50Okay, great. Thanks for the color. That's it for me. Speaker 100:41:53Thanks, Gary. Operator00:41:57Christa Friesen at CIBC, you have our next question. Speaker 900:42:02Great. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Good morning. I was just wondering on the TDP, do you have the opportunity to increase the capacity of it if you have enough interest? Speaker 100:42:16We have plenty of interest And we do have the ability to increase the capacity of it if we chose to do that. It does come with certain expense burden, we have a fairly sizable team that supports and manages the program. There is additional compensation to the mentors for the work that they do to help us develop the apprentice. There is a considerable amount of training expense, both the mentor training as well as 3rd party training, generally it's ICAR training, which is the organization that develops and service helps to deliver training to the industry, but the program is very scalable. Obviously, we built it from 200 at the beginning of last year to 400 when we reported in November. Speaker 100:43:09It's got tremendous support from the operational teams. We have enough mentors in the organization that we could grow the program further based on mentor interest. So it's definitely scalable. But we're trying to balance the expense associated with that versus just recruiting and focusing on experienced technicians as well. Speaker 300:43:34And we had a big step up last year. I mean that was a big step up, but I think it's just time to monitor it for a period of time. Speaker 100:43:42But we remain really pleased with the program and Excited with what it's delivering to our business. Speaker 900:43:51Okay, that's great. And then I was wondering if you could speak to even if it's just qualitatively, the retention that you're seeing at Boyd and if the wage increases you've implemented have been enough to at least retain the talent you do have. Maybe it's not enough to tracked enough talent, but just the retention that you're seeing. Speaker 100:44:17We don't give specifics on retention, but we've put a number of programs in place to improve retention and I think we've seen some positive results from that and we we are consistently reviewing our benefits. We're reviewing the rates that we pay technicians to make sure that we're competitive. We're proactive on that. We have leadership training initiatives in place to improve the ability of our frontline leaders to engage with their team members. We have put some other resources in place to help make sure that we're listening and responsive to our team members' needs. Speaker 100:44:56So we've had some good success. We've got more work to do and we have plans to do that. But overall, I'm pleased with our progress and expect us to continue to make further progress. Speaker 900:45:11Okay, great. And then I was just wondering, as you look at acquisitions, do you also Do you have a separate bucket where you consider kind of the mobile scanning and calibration business similar to the one you acquired in 2021, I believe? Speaker 100:45:29Yes, I think that's a fair way to look at it. We look at that for both our calibration business and our Auto Glass business, we think we have acquisition opportunities there as well. The majority of the acquisitions are still going to be collision related. And we've been pretty successful at organically growing our Auto Glass and Calibration business, but we're open to acquisitions in those Operator00:46:04our next question today will come from Jonathan Lamers at Laurentian Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:46:10Thank you. Good Speaker 700:46:12morning. Just on the calibration business, Tim, you mentioned the opportunity there from internalizing the skill set. Do you see that as more of a 2023 opportunity or more of a 2024 opportunity based on your training plans? Speaker 100:46:32I would say both. We expect to grow that in 2023, but we won't get to the end stage in 2023. It's another skilled labor position that is not there's not a plentiful supply. We are growing our own and recruiting, but we've got plans in place to continue to grow market by market our operating in that Speaker 700:47:04area. Thanks. And just to circle up on the sequential improvement in the sales and the labor capacity comments. You mentioned that you did see some price increases from Q4 to Q1 or benefits from price increases that you saw improvement in labor capacity. Is it fair to say that you are getting further labor rate increases that are enabling more technician recruitment and retention? Speaker 700:47:28And is there any color you can provide us from recent insurance partner discussions and how that relates to the labor situation? Speaker 100:47:38Well, I I think the fact that we're seeing such good same store sales growth confirms that we're having success at growing our capacity. It's not all price. But I think it's going to be a continuing effort both to raise wages in the industry for the industry to attract from other segments. So we're certainly not done, but we're pleased with our progress. Speaker 700:48:09Thanks for your comments. Speaker 100:48:12Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:48:16And that was our final question in the queue from our audience this morning. Mr. Day Mr. O'Day rather, I will turn it back to you sir for any closing remarks that you have sir. Speaker 100:48:26Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call. And we look forward to reporting our Q1 results with you in May. Thanks, and have a great day.Read morePowered by