NASDAQ:ETON Eton Pharmaceuticals Q1 2023 Earnings Report $17.28 +0.05 (+0.31%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$17.30 +0.02 (+0.09%) As of 04:36 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Eton Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.10Consensus EPS -$0.14Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AEton Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$5.30 millionExpected Revenue$4.60 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$700.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEton Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/11/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, May 11, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsEton Pharmaceuticals' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Eton Pharmaceuticals Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 11, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Iton Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the formal remarks, we will open the call up for your questions. Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the company's request. At this time, I'd like to turn it over to David Krempa, Chief Business Officer at Eton Pharmaceuticals. Operator00:00:27Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Eaton's Q1 2023 conference call. This afternoon, we issued a press release that outlines the topics we plan to discuss on today's call. The release is available on our website, eatonpharma.com. Joining me on our call today, we have Sean Brynjelsen, our CEO and James Gruber, our CFO. Speaker 100:00:54In addition to taking live questions on today's call, We will be answering questions that are emailed to us. Investors can send their questions to investorrelationseatonpharma.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that remarks made during the call may contain forward looking statements and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in these forward looking statements. Please see the forward looking statements disclaimer in our earnings release and the risk factors in the company's filings with the SEC. Now, I will turn the call over to our CEO, Sean Brynjelsen. Speaker 200:01:31Thank you, David. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm excited to talk with all of you go over our Q1 results as well as our outlook for the rest of the year and beyond. As previously communicated, we knew 2023 was going to be a major We seek to more than double product sales, watch new rare disease products and reach profitability. I am pleased to say we're off to a very good start with the exceptional first quarter results we announced today. Speaker 200:02:01It was another quarter of record product sales for Eton, Our 9th straight sequential product revenue growth. Total product sales and royalty revenue was $5,400,000 an increase of 52% over the Q4 of 2022 and up 144% from the quarter of 2022. El Kindi Sprinkle and kergulumic acid both reported record sales in the quarter. LKINDI Sprinkle saw strong growth in patients on treatment during the quarter, having our reps solely focused on LKINDI during interactions with pediatric driving habits and may reduce the number of visits required to do so. Eaton also launched the new El Kindi Sprinkle direct to consumer marketing campaign during the quarter and have implemented initiatives to further increase our engagement with the adrenal insufficiency patient community throughout 2023. Speaker 200:02:58Even with our strong LKINDI sales in Q1, a huge opportunity remains in front of us. The large percentage of patient population remains unconverted. We are optimistic that this provides us with a long runway of growth for the product, which is patented throughout 2,034. We believe our expanded sales force can help increase the pace of adoption and our ET400 product will further accelerate adoption. Our patent pending ET400 product, which will be sold alongside alkyndiSprinkle as a new treatment alternative, remains on track for an NDA submission at the end of this year. Speaker 200:03:32This could provide for potential commercial launch in 2024. We continue to believe LKINDY SPRINKLE and ET-four hundred have the potential for combined peak sales of more than $50,000,000 annually. Moving over to kuglunic acid. Kuglunic acid also had a very strong quarter, aided in part by a few significant conversions in the quarter, which we believe were a direct result of our expanded sales force. We will be leveraging the relationships we have successfully developed commercializing kergalumic acid for the launch of Betaine Anhydrous, which shares the same prescriber base. Speaker 200:04:07We are pleased to announce this week that Betaine is now commercially available. With Betaine, we will be offering our full patient and provider services through our Eaton Cares program. Eaton Cares will provide prescription fulfillment, insurance benefits investigation and educational support as well as financial assistance and other services designed to help eligible patients access treatment. Even prior to the launch, we had received strong interest from patients and providers trying to gain the product from us. So we believe we are well positioned for launch. Speaker 200:04:38We believe Betaine has the potential to generate several $1,000,000 in annual revenue with minimal incremental investment in SG and A. I've been very pleased with the performance of our sales force thus far. As a reminder, the final members of our expanded 12 person Sales team were fully trained and in the field in February. We believe the expanded forest health contributed to the record sales of both products In the Q1 and we expect the benefit of this larger team to be even more pronounced in the second half of the year as new members develop deeper relationships with prescribers. An additional benefit of the expanded team is that it has allowed us to increase our attendance and presence at medical conferences, Including many smaller regional conferences, our commercial team will be attending more than 35 medical conferences this year. Speaker 200:05:27Our second potential product launch this year is our dehydrated alcohol injection. As many of you are aware, the product has been assigned a PDUFA date of June 27 by the FDA. We have been in regular communication with the FDA and believe we have fully addressed or will shortly address all of the agency's information requests. As a result, we have implemented a launch execution plan with our commercial partner that will allow for the launch of the product as quickly as possible after the PDUFA date if it is approved. During the quarter, we also acquired ET-six hundred, an innovative product candidate under development for a rare pediatric endocrinology condition that would address a significant unmet need. Speaker 200:06:07ET-six hundred has the same prescriber base as ALKINDI Sprinkle, which makes it a perfect strategic fit. Physicians have repeatedly expressed a need for this product and we believe we can address this unmet need. If all goes according to plan, we expect to file the NDA in Our short term goal for 2023 was to more than double product sales this year. And as you can see with an impressive first quarter results, we're well on our way to Longer term, our goal is to have 10 commercial rare disease products on market by the end of 2025. The launch of Betaine is now our 3rd commercial product. Speaker 200:06:41We are in a very solid position. I believe our current pipeline can deliver 4 more and I'm confident that we will continue to find and close attractive business development transactions that can provide at least 3 more commercial products by the end of 2025. In recent months, we have seen an increasing number of pharmaceutical companies that have attractive Commercial late stage assets but are facing financial challenges. Due to less favorable capital markets environment, they are struggling to raise needed capital And ultimately, we'll not be able to advance or commercialize products by themselves. Given our strong cash position, our prudent spending and our expectation to be profitable in the near future, We believe we are in an ideal position to capitalize on these type of opportunities as we move forward. Speaker 200:07:25I hope everyone is as pleased today with the results as I am. Our team has put in a lot of hard work behind the scenes in recent quarters and years to lay the groundwork for results that are starting to materialize. We knew 2023 was going to be a critical year for the company and we are off to a terrific start. The outlook could not be better. Kerglumic acid and alkyndi sprinkle, which were already growing at have the potential to launch dehydrated alcohol in the coming months and on top of all of that, we continue to execute on our internal development and external business development activities to advance our vision of creating a profitable, diverse portfolio of commercial rare disease products. Speaker 200:08:09In summary, we are just getting started. We are getting some great traction and look forward to sharing more good news as we move forward in the quarters ahead. Thank you. And with that, I'll turn it over to James, our Chief Financial Officer to discuss the financial. James? Speaker 100:08:26Thank you, Sean. Our first quarter revenue was $5,300,000 compared to $2,200,000 in the Q1 of 2022 or a 144% increase. In both periods, revenue was comprised entirely of product sales and royalties And the increase was driven by growth in alkyndiSprinkle and kardlimic acid. Sequentially, product sales and royalty revenue grew 52% compared to the Q4 of 2022. We expect product sales to continue growing quarter over quarter throughout the rest of this year and beyond. Speaker 100:09:03R and D expenses for the quarter were $500,000 compared with $1,600,000 in the prior year period, Due primarily to decreased development costs for new product candidates, we expect to see a slight increase in R and D spend in future quarters due to development activities and payments related to ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. General and administrative expenses for the quarter were 5 point $3,000,000 compared with $4,800,000 in the prior year period, due primarily to incremental employee related expenses associated with our sales force expansion. The increased costs related to the sales force expansion are being partially offset by lower legal costs, the elimination of The co promotion commission paid to our marketing partner and the elimination of expenses associated with supporting products that were divested in 2022. Q1 is seasonally our highest quarter of expense and we still anticipate our full year G and A expense to be approximately 20,000,000 Total company net loss was $2,700,000 for the quarter compared to a net loss of $5,300,000 in the prior year period. Net loss per basic and diluted share was $0.10 during the quarter compared to a net loss per basic and diluted share of $0.21 in the prior year period. Speaker 100:10:26Eaton finished the Q1 with $14,700,000 of cash on hand And our operating cash burn during the quarter was $1,500,000 We remain confident that our cash position is efficient to allow us to execute our plans and continue pursuing bolt on transactions and new product developments. This concludes our remarks on Q1 results. And with that, we'll turn it back over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:11:17And we have a question from Raghuram Selvaraju with H. C. Wainwright and Co. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:11:25Hi, thanks very much for taking my questions. So in light of the robust revenue that you're seeing, Can you give us your updated thoughts on whether or not you anticipate potentially expanding the field sales force? And if so, in what cadence and on what timeline? Speaker 200:11:46Sure. Hi, Ram. Yes, we Have decided to keep our sales force at where it's at for the next quarter or 2. But as sales ramp up And we bring in new products. We will be ultimately expanding that. Speaker 200:12:02I don't see a significant increase in SG and A, At least for the next few quarters, we believe the sales force is the right size for where we're at today. Obviously, for the future, we'll need to plan accordingly. But it's so far so good with the results. And as you can see, we're very pleased with their performance. I think that you'll see that accelerate. Speaker 200:12:25There will come a point though, maybe necessary to add additional headcount. Speaker 300:12:33And can you give us an update on what you expect to be the next steps in the legal front on the legal front with respect to Your collaboration with Doctor. Reddy's and in particular, what you expect the outlook to be there At this point in time? Speaker 200:12:51Sure. The Systine appeal has been filed. It's in process. We remain confident of winning that ultimately. That would translate into a $20,000,000 commercial payment or commercialization milestone payment to Eaton. Speaker 200:13:07I would expect that. I mean, the exact timing obviously is always tough to predict when you're talking about Court cases, but we think it will likely be sometime in 2024. I have read several of the briefing documents and I think Doctor. Reddy has done a very good job with their case so far. They have a very good track record of winning. Speaker 300:13:36Lastly, with respect to R and D, Do you anticipate that this is likely to trend up meaningfully in the course of the coming quarters, say over the remainder of 2023? Or do you expect The number for the Q1 to be more or less where it's going to stay, given some of these upcoming Including the preparation for filing of ET 600s? Speaker 100:14:04Yes. The first quarter is Our R and D spending for the rest of the year is going to tick up a little bit higher than it was in Q1, just Due to the timing of development activities with both ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. So it would not be reasonable to assume. Q1 is not representative of full year spend. So we do expect it to tick up A little bit. Speaker 100:14:35Not multiples, but slight increases over Q1. Speaker 300:14:39And last question for me. If you look at The potential evolution of gross margin, what of which of the newer products, for example, Betaine, Anhydrous, ET-four hundred and down the pipe ET-six hundred are likely to be the most significant positive contributors to improvement in gross margin? Speaker 400:15:02Yes. Hi, Ram. The biggest gross margin Benefitors would be ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. On the Betaine, we do have a 35% profit split to our The original licensing partner that comes out of the COGS line, so the gross profit is a little bit lower because of that payment. But ET-four hundred, ET-six hundred will be Very high margin with relatively low royalty obligations. Speaker 400:15:29So they should boost the overall company gross margin. Speaker 300:15:34Thank you. Operator00:15:51And I see No more questions at this time. I will now turn the call over back to David Quempo. Speaker 400:15:59Thank you. We do have one emailed question that we haven't Covered yet today. It was asking for an update on ET-four hundred. Can you provide any color on the indication it is going for? Speaker 200:16:11Sure. So with ET-four hundred, this is one of our most exciting pipeline products. As you know, the as we stated in our press release, Sold alongside Elkins Sprinkle. The indication would also be for adrenocorticoll insufficiency And we would envision there is roughly 10,000 patients that could benefit from this, but We're really going after about 3,000 of those, 6 and under primarily is the patient population. It may be indicated all the way up to 2018. Speaker 200:16:46We think it would mainly be used in that 0% to 6% range. So that's about what we can say at this point. I think as the year progresses and our patent gets issued, we'll share more information About the product, suffice to say, physicians are very excited about it. It's one that we've spoken to Couple of dozen doctors that specialize in this area and it will fulfill an unmet need today. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Iton Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the formal remarks, we will open the call up for your questions. Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the company's request. At this time, I'd like to turn it over to David Krempa, Chief Business Officer at Eton Pharmaceuticals. Operator00:00:27Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Eaton's Q1 2023 conference call. This afternoon, we issued a press release that outlines the topics we plan to discuss on today's call. The release is available on our website, eatonpharma.com. Joining me on our call today, we have Sean Brynjelsen, our CEO and James Gruber, our CFO. Speaker 100:00:54In addition to taking live questions on today's call, We will be answering questions that are emailed to us. Investors can send their questions to investorrelationseatonpharma.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that remarks made during the call may contain forward looking statements and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in these forward looking statements. Please see the forward looking statements disclaimer in our earnings release and the risk factors in the company's filings with the SEC. Now, I will turn the call over to our CEO, Sean Brynjelsen. Speaker 200:01:31Thank you, David. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm excited to talk with all of you go over our Q1 results as well as our outlook for the rest of the year and beyond. As previously communicated, we knew 2023 was going to be a major We seek to more than double product sales, watch new rare disease products and reach profitability. I am pleased to say we're off to a very good start with the exceptional first quarter results we announced today. Speaker 200:02:01It was another quarter of record product sales for Eton, Our 9th straight sequential product revenue growth. Total product sales and royalty revenue was $5,400,000 an increase of 52% over the Q4 of 2022 and up 144% from the quarter of 2022. El Kindi Sprinkle and kergulumic acid both reported record sales in the quarter. LKINDI Sprinkle saw strong growth in patients on treatment during the quarter, having our reps solely focused on LKINDI during interactions with pediatric driving habits and may reduce the number of visits required to do so. Eaton also launched the new El Kindi Sprinkle direct to consumer marketing campaign during the quarter and have implemented initiatives to further increase our engagement with the adrenal insufficiency patient community throughout 2023. Speaker 200:02:58Even with our strong LKINDI sales in Q1, a huge opportunity remains in front of us. The large percentage of patient population remains unconverted. We are optimistic that this provides us with a long runway of growth for the product, which is patented throughout 2,034. We believe our expanded sales force can help increase the pace of adoption and our ET400 product will further accelerate adoption. Our patent pending ET400 product, which will be sold alongside alkyndiSprinkle as a new treatment alternative, remains on track for an NDA submission at the end of this year. Speaker 200:03:32This could provide for potential commercial launch in 2024. We continue to believe LKINDY SPRINKLE and ET-four hundred have the potential for combined peak sales of more than $50,000,000 annually. Moving over to kuglunic acid. Kuglunic acid also had a very strong quarter, aided in part by a few significant conversions in the quarter, which we believe were a direct result of our expanded sales force. We will be leveraging the relationships we have successfully developed commercializing kergalumic acid for the launch of Betaine Anhydrous, which shares the same prescriber base. Speaker 200:04:07We are pleased to announce this week that Betaine is now commercially available. With Betaine, we will be offering our full patient and provider services through our Eaton Cares program. Eaton Cares will provide prescription fulfillment, insurance benefits investigation and educational support as well as financial assistance and other services designed to help eligible patients access treatment. Even prior to the launch, we had received strong interest from patients and providers trying to gain the product from us. So we believe we are well positioned for launch. Speaker 200:04:38We believe Betaine has the potential to generate several $1,000,000 in annual revenue with minimal incremental investment in SG and A. I've been very pleased with the performance of our sales force thus far. As a reminder, the final members of our expanded 12 person Sales team were fully trained and in the field in February. We believe the expanded forest health contributed to the record sales of both products In the Q1 and we expect the benefit of this larger team to be even more pronounced in the second half of the year as new members develop deeper relationships with prescribers. An additional benefit of the expanded team is that it has allowed us to increase our attendance and presence at medical conferences, Including many smaller regional conferences, our commercial team will be attending more than 35 medical conferences this year. Speaker 200:05:27Our second potential product launch this year is our dehydrated alcohol injection. As many of you are aware, the product has been assigned a PDUFA date of June 27 by the FDA. We have been in regular communication with the FDA and believe we have fully addressed or will shortly address all of the agency's information requests. As a result, we have implemented a launch execution plan with our commercial partner that will allow for the launch of the product as quickly as possible after the PDUFA date if it is approved. During the quarter, we also acquired ET-six hundred, an innovative product candidate under development for a rare pediatric endocrinology condition that would address a significant unmet need. Speaker 200:06:07ET-six hundred has the same prescriber base as ALKINDI Sprinkle, which makes it a perfect strategic fit. Physicians have repeatedly expressed a need for this product and we believe we can address this unmet need. If all goes according to plan, we expect to file the NDA in Our short term goal for 2023 was to more than double product sales this year. And as you can see with an impressive first quarter results, we're well on our way to Longer term, our goal is to have 10 commercial rare disease products on market by the end of 2025. The launch of Betaine is now our 3rd commercial product. Speaker 200:06:41We are in a very solid position. I believe our current pipeline can deliver 4 more and I'm confident that we will continue to find and close attractive business development transactions that can provide at least 3 more commercial products by the end of 2025. In recent months, we have seen an increasing number of pharmaceutical companies that have attractive Commercial late stage assets but are facing financial challenges. Due to less favorable capital markets environment, they are struggling to raise needed capital And ultimately, we'll not be able to advance or commercialize products by themselves. Given our strong cash position, our prudent spending and our expectation to be profitable in the near future, We believe we are in an ideal position to capitalize on these type of opportunities as we move forward. Speaker 200:07:25I hope everyone is as pleased today with the results as I am. Our team has put in a lot of hard work behind the scenes in recent quarters and years to lay the groundwork for results that are starting to materialize. We knew 2023 was going to be a critical year for the company and we are off to a terrific start. The outlook could not be better. Kerglumic acid and alkyndi sprinkle, which were already growing at have the potential to launch dehydrated alcohol in the coming months and on top of all of that, we continue to execute on our internal development and external business development activities to advance our vision of creating a profitable, diverse portfolio of commercial rare disease products. Speaker 200:08:09In summary, we are just getting started. We are getting some great traction and look forward to sharing more good news as we move forward in the quarters ahead. Thank you. And with that, I'll turn it over to James, our Chief Financial Officer to discuss the financial. James? Speaker 100:08:26Thank you, Sean. Our first quarter revenue was $5,300,000 compared to $2,200,000 in the Q1 of 2022 or a 144% increase. In both periods, revenue was comprised entirely of product sales and royalties And the increase was driven by growth in alkyndiSprinkle and kardlimic acid. Sequentially, product sales and royalty revenue grew 52% compared to the Q4 of 2022. We expect product sales to continue growing quarter over quarter throughout the rest of this year and beyond. Speaker 100:09:03R and D expenses for the quarter were $500,000 compared with $1,600,000 in the prior year period, Due primarily to decreased development costs for new product candidates, we expect to see a slight increase in R and D spend in future quarters due to development activities and payments related to ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. General and administrative expenses for the quarter were 5 point $3,000,000 compared with $4,800,000 in the prior year period, due primarily to incremental employee related expenses associated with our sales force expansion. The increased costs related to the sales force expansion are being partially offset by lower legal costs, the elimination of The co promotion commission paid to our marketing partner and the elimination of expenses associated with supporting products that were divested in 2022. Q1 is seasonally our highest quarter of expense and we still anticipate our full year G and A expense to be approximately 20,000,000 Total company net loss was $2,700,000 for the quarter compared to a net loss of $5,300,000 in the prior year period. Net loss per basic and diluted share was $0.10 during the quarter compared to a net loss per basic and diluted share of $0.21 in the prior year period. Speaker 100:10:26Eaton finished the Q1 with $14,700,000 of cash on hand And our operating cash burn during the quarter was $1,500,000 We remain confident that our cash position is efficient to allow us to execute our plans and continue pursuing bolt on transactions and new product developments. This concludes our remarks on Q1 results. And with that, we'll turn it back over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:11:17And we have a question from Raghuram Selvaraju with H. C. Wainwright and Co. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:11:25Hi, thanks very much for taking my questions. So in light of the robust revenue that you're seeing, Can you give us your updated thoughts on whether or not you anticipate potentially expanding the field sales force? And if so, in what cadence and on what timeline? Speaker 200:11:46Sure. Hi, Ram. Yes, we Have decided to keep our sales force at where it's at for the next quarter or 2. But as sales ramp up And we bring in new products. We will be ultimately expanding that. Speaker 200:12:02I don't see a significant increase in SG and A, At least for the next few quarters, we believe the sales force is the right size for where we're at today. Obviously, for the future, we'll need to plan accordingly. But it's so far so good with the results. And as you can see, we're very pleased with their performance. I think that you'll see that accelerate. Speaker 200:12:25There will come a point though, maybe necessary to add additional headcount. Speaker 300:12:33And can you give us an update on what you expect to be the next steps in the legal front on the legal front with respect to Your collaboration with Doctor. Reddy's and in particular, what you expect the outlook to be there At this point in time? Speaker 200:12:51Sure. The Systine appeal has been filed. It's in process. We remain confident of winning that ultimately. That would translate into a $20,000,000 commercial payment or commercialization milestone payment to Eaton. Speaker 200:13:07I would expect that. I mean, the exact timing obviously is always tough to predict when you're talking about Court cases, but we think it will likely be sometime in 2024. I have read several of the briefing documents and I think Doctor. Reddy has done a very good job with their case so far. They have a very good track record of winning. Speaker 300:13:36Lastly, with respect to R and D, Do you anticipate that this is likely to trend up meaningfully in the course of the coming quarters, say over the remainder of 2023? Or do you expect The number for the Q1 to be more or less where it's going to stay, given some of these upcoming Including the preparation for filing of ET 600s? Speaker 100:14:04Yes. The first quarter is Our R and D spending for the rest of the year is going to tick up a little bit higher than it was in Q1, just Due to the timing of development activities with both ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. So it would not be reasonable to assume. Q1 is not representative of full year spend. So we do expect it to tick up A little bit. Speaker 100:14:35Not multiples, but slight increases over Q1. Speaker 300:14:39And last question for me. If you look at The potential evolution of gross margin, what of which of the newer products, for example, Betaine, Anhydrous, ET-four hundred and down the pipe ET-six hundred are likely to be the most significant positive contributors to improvement in gross margin? Speaker 400:15:02Yes. Hi, Ram. The biggest gross margin Benefitors would be ET-four hundred and ET-six hundred. On the Betaine, we do have a 35% profit split to our The original licensing partner that comes out of the COGS line, so the gross profit is a little bit lower because of that payment. But ET-four hundred, ET-six hundred will be Very high margin with relatively low royalty obligations. Speaker 400:15:29So they should boost the overall company gross margin. Speaker 300:15:34Thank you. Operator00:15:51And I see No more questions at this time. I will now turn the call over back to David Quempo. Speaker 400:15:59Thank you. We do have one emailed question that we haven't Covered yet today. It was asking for an update on ET-four hundred. Can you provide any color on the indication it is going for? Speaker 200:16:11Sure. So with ET-four hundred, this is one of our most exciting pipeline products. As you know, the as we stated in our press release, Sold alongside Elkins Sprinkle. The indication would also be for adrenocorticoll insufficiency And we would envision there is roughly 10,000 patients that could benefit from this, but We're really going after about 3,000 of those, 6 and under primarily is the patient population. It may be indicated all the way up to 2018. Speaker 200:16:46We think it would mainly be used in that 0% to 6% range. So that's about what we can say at this point. I think as the year progresses and our patent gets issued, we'll share more information About the product, suffice to say, physicians are very excited about it. It's one that we've spoken to Couple of dozen doctors that specialize in this area and it will fulfill an unmet need today. Speaker 400:17:16Thank you everyone for joining us today. That's the end of the emailed questions that we've received.Read morePowered by