Canadian Utilities Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 27, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to the Second Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call for Canadian Utilities Limited. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Colin Jackson, Senior Vice President, Finance, Treasury and Sustainability.

Operator

Please go ahead, Mr. Jackson.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We're pleased you could join us for Canadian Utilities' Q2 2023 conference call. With me today is Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Brian Skrobot. Before we move into our formal agenda, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge the numerous traditional territories and homelands on which our global facilities are located.

Speaker 1

Today, we're speaking to you from our EchoPark head office in Calgary, which is located in the Treaty 7 region. This is the ancestral territory of the Blackfoot Confederacy comprised of the Siksika, Kainai and begani Nations, the Tassino Nation and the Stoney Nakota Nations that include the Chick'nakee, Bearspaw and Good Stoney Second Nations. The City of Calgary is also home to the Metis Nation of Alberta, Region 3. We honor and respect the diverse history, languages, ceremonies and culture of the indigenous people who call these areas home. Brian will begin today with some opening comments on recent company developments, our financial results and key trends and expectations for our businesses in 2023.

Speaker 1

Following these prepared remarks, we will take questions from the investment community. Please note that a replay of the conference call and a transcript will be available on our website at canadianutilities.com and can be found in the Investors section under the heading Events and Presentations. I'd like to remind you that our remarks today will include forward looking statements, which are subject to important risks and uncertainties. For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please see the reports filed by Canadian Utilities with the Canadian Securities Regulators. And finally, I'd also like to point out that during this presentation, we may refer to certain non GAAP and other financial measures such as total of segments measures, adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share and capital investment.

Speaker 1

These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS and as a result they may not be comparable to similar measures presented in other entities. And now, I'll turn the call over to Brian for his opening remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Colin, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all very much for joining us today for our Q2 2023 conference call. Canadian Utilities achieved adjusted earnings of $100,000,000 or $0.37 per share in the Q2 of this year, compared to $136,000,000 in the Q2 of last year. As expected, the impact Of our Alberta distribution utilities rebasing following our 2nd successful performance based regulation cycle resulted in lower year over year earnings in the Q2. On its own, this rebasing contributed to a year over year decline in earnings of approximately $25,000,000 While significant, this is certainly not unexpected in every basin year, especially with the phenomenal outperformance we achieved last year, the final year of PBR2.

Speaker 2

Looking ahead to the rest of the year, we expect to see the earnings pressure associated with this rebasing peak in the 3rd quarter. And in the Q4, we expect seasonality benefits and our annual spending profile to create potential opportunities for year over year growth. Overall, despite the earnings pressure from rebasing, we still believe that our full year performance for these businesses will be in line with the expectations that we've shared previously. More specifically, we continue to believe that we will be successful in achieving outperformance, largely in line with our long term historic performance. This will limit the single year earnings decline for this year to levels largely consistent with what we experienced back in 2018 following PBR1.

Speaker 2

Moving to our natural gas distribution business in Australia, We continue to see strong growth in key operating metrics such as new connections and system volumes. The in country inflation trend within Australia continues to contribute to our year over earnings pressure. As we discussed On our Q1 conference call, 2022 saw us enter the year with a full year annual inflation expectation of 3% in Australia. By the time the year had ended, however, full year inflation had reached almost 8%. This surge in inflation resulted in strong earnings last year, But more importantly, an earnings profile that built beginning in Q2 of 2022 and rapidly progressed throughout the year.

Speaker 2

As a result of this trend in the prior year, our Q2 2022 earnings were exceptionally strong, creating a comparable that is difficult to compete with as 2023 inflation levels begin to moderate. This trend resulted in us reporting a year over year decline of $5,000,000 for this business in the quarter. Similar to what we saw in our 2nd quarter results, we expect to see continued pressure in Q3 and Q4 related to the CPI trend and for it to push full year results lower than last year. For added color, when we spoke Following our Q1 call, in country estimates were suggesting full year inflation in Australia to be between 4% to 5%. Now we continue to believe that this is an appropriate expectation, but do see signs to suggest that inflation may trend closer to the 5% end of this range Moving on to our electric generation business, We continue to see strong earnings contributions from our existing assets and those that we've acquired earlier this year.

Speaker 2

Along with our 40 mile wind in Adelaide assets performing in line with expectations operationally, we also earnings benefit from the strong Alberta merchant power pricing. This pricing strength helped offset lower than normal wind levels in Alberta during the quarter. As a reminder, our long term power purchase agreement for 40 Mile Wind did not come into effect until July 1st this year, which allowed us to capture these strong merchant market trends in the quarter. Now before diving into our capital investments, I just Want to touch on the recent wildfire activity in Alberta. Despite significant wildfire activity this year, Our businesses have been successful in limiting customer outages and avoiding any safety incidents related to these events.

Speaker 2

My sincere appreciation goes out to all our employees who work so tirelessly to restore service and to support first responders. With wildfire activity in Alberta slowing significantly since its peak earlier in the Q2, our teams continue to remain focused on restoration efforts. And we do not expect to see any negative impact to earnings as a result of these events. Moving on to capital, I just want to briefly touch on the capital investments we made in the Q2. The Q2 saw us invest $336,000,000 in our business with $287,000,000 of this spending being within our existing utilities.

Speaker 2

This ongoing utility investments The remaining capital was primarily related to our ongoing renewable generation initiatives and the Q2 saw us achieve full commercial operation at our Barlow Solar Generation Facility. We continue to push Closer to completion of our previously announced Deerfoot and Empress Solar developments and expect commercial operation of these facilities this year. And we've also seen great progress in advancing numerous projects within our acquired renewables development pipeline and Key inflection point in this rebasing year, the earnings pressures we expected related to rebasing and Australia inflation became more pronounced than they were in the quarter as offsetting seasonality and timing impacts faded. That being said, rebasing is something we've dealt with before And it's a key part of the PBR framework. We remain focused on driving exceptional results for our shareholders and position our business to maximize growth earnings as we exit this key regulatory transition period.

Speaker 2

I look forward to providing further updates on the progress of our numerous growth initiatives as the year That concludes my prepared remarks. Now I'll turn the call back to Colin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Brian. In the interest of time, we ask you to limit yourself to 2 questions. If you have additional questions, you are welcome to rejoin the queue. As most of you know, the ATCO Q2 call immediately follows this. And I'd like to just note that Katie Patrick, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Investment Officer has joined us in the room.

Speaker 1

I will turn it back to the conference operator now for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Linda Ezergailis with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I'm just wondering in terms of your PBR reopener that was triggered for 2022 for your electrical and natural gas distribution utilities. I'm wondering what the process for resolving it, what is the range of possible outcomes And what informs management's confidence that you don't expect any adjustments?

Speaker 2

Hi, Linda. Thanks for your question. Yes, I guess maybe just to start off, on June 30 this year, the AC initiated Proceeding for both our electric distribution and our natural gas business as a re opener clause was triggered for both our utilities in the final year of the And I just kind of highlights the exceptional outperformance that we were able to generate Throughout the PBR term, but more significantly in the last year. So, in this proceeding that AUC will determine whether a reopening or And really at the heart of this assessment is whether The outperformance achieved was due to a malfunction or a design error in the PBR framework as opposed to the strong management of the underlying utilities. And so this is not new for us.

Speaker 2

We experienced the same re opener proceeding at the end of the first PBR term And we view that we'll be successful, given that we truly believe and we can demonstrate that it's really response of Management actions are not a design flaw in the plan. And a part of that is that you can look at all the other utilities were all under the same program and same plan And none of them have reopened. So we fully expect as we go throughout this proceeding, we'll be able to demonstrate that and don't

Speaker 3

Thank you. That's very helpful context. And maybe just as a follow-up in terms of more broadly your utilities framework. A recent mandate letter for Alberta's Minister of Affordability and Utilities contained a bullet about lowering transmission and distribution costs and some other elements that could potentially impact your company. How do you think the government might achieve this?

Speaker 3

And what might be the financial impact, if any, on your utilities? And if you have any other perspectives on this mandate letter, we'd appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks for the question, Linda. Yes, in terms of Obviously, affordability is top of mind of all our customers in Albertans and certainly it's top of mind for our company as we We conduct ourselves in. As in terms of the mandate letter, we fully expect to be in active conversations with the government And we have been. And the first thing I'd note is, and the government has acknowledged this, we're the only utility in the province that actually So a rate reduction in 2023, a meaningful rate reduction.

Speaker 2

And that's the best thing that we can do is continue to operate our Utilities as efficiently as possible and then pass on those savings to customers. We'll also be looking at I know they're going to review the AUC and the ISO And there's definitely, I guess, opportunities for savings to be had across the utility sector in terms of some of their capital deployment, some of the policies, investment criteria. So I think it's early days, and we'll be active in those But we don't anticipate any negative impact to our business. The Alberta government and our regulator has been Very firm on upholding the regulatory construct, which is a very positive thing and we expect that to continue.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

The next question comes from Rob Hope with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, everyone. In the MD and A, there was some commentary on the newly rebranded in Power, potentially reviewing financial alternatives that include a spin out of the, I guess, the Renewable Power business. Can you maybe talk to some of the thinking behind the financial review here? Is the growth here too large to handle on the balance sheet? Or do you think it's not being properly valued inside of CU?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Rob. Well, first of all, I think it's important to emphasize that we certainly haven't made any definitive decisions and that we're simply just exploring, examining all options. As you've kind of heard us speak about previously, we continue to see significant opportunities for growth in connection with the energy transition, including existing and new opportunities in both our kind of newly branded Aqua Energy Systems and Aqua Power. So although we've kind of historically relied on whether it's cash from operations, recycling of capital, partnerships and debt issues to fund our growth, And it certainly has served us well to date.

Speaker 2

But as we look ahead, however, we recognize that future growth is likely to require capital and financing beyond The traditional sources we utilize. So as a result of this and the intention of just being Transparent within the market, we have announced our intention to explore all means of financing and including the potential creation of a separate entity. So our intent over the couple of upcoming months is to gather feedback from investors, partners and other stakeholders to help and form our planning going forward to ensure that we're making the best decisions. And once we've completed our assessment and review of the various options, We'll certainly disclose any material decisions. As with all of our decision we make, we evaluate these opportunities Through the lens of shareholder value creation and long term growth and stability of our businesses.

Speaker 2

So, for example, a separate entity, a transaction of this nature We'd only be pursued if we saw clear signs of it being financially accretive, beneficial to shareholders and in the best interest of all entities within our group As we look to position our business for long term growth and stability.

Speaker 4

I appreciate that. And then just maybe in terms of the outlook for growth, as you take a look at the backlog of renewable power projects that you have, Can you maybe update us on which ones are percolating to the top and whether any progress have been made on the Alberta Development Projects or the Australia Hydrate Facility?

Speaker 2

Yes, great. Thanks for the question, Rob. Yes. In terms of we are like I mentioned in my opening remarks, we're continuing to make some really good progress. We mentioned the Barlow coming fully commercial operational and Deerfoot and Empress projects are progressing well and that combined will have Capacity of over 100 Megawatts.

Speaker 2

We're also working on our upgrading of our 40 mile wind assets And add an additional 20 megawatts and we expect that by the end of the year. And the next kind of item in the development pipeline that we're We're working on and making progress is our 40 mile solar project, which will add additional 220 megawatts of So I guess, long story short is all our development pipeline is progressing well with all fronts. We're happy with the progress. We're being proactive with supply chain to make sure that materials are ready when we need it. And Yes.

Speaker 2

Cassini is continuing to see a healthy pipeline of growth there.

Speaker 4

Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue.

Operator

The next question comes from Maurice Choi with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks and good morning. Can I just follow-up on discussion about GoEn Power and separating potentially separating that into You mentioned that any transaction needs to be to have clear signs of being financially accretive? I assume by this you mean EPS and if so, can you also talk to how you might size this with respect to The mix between utilities and non regulated cash flows or earnings, what are your guardrails there?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Maurice, for the question. And as I previously mentioned, certainly, we're at the very early stages and just exploring All options. And so we haven't really defined it completely what that would look like. But generally, we would expect, just like our branding, we'd have Non regulated businesses and our new branded, Aqua and Power and then our regulated gas new Electric Utilities and our Echo Energy Systems.

Speaker 2

So I think it's just too preliminary at this stage, Maurice, to kind of get into that detail because we're at the very beginning stages. And when we get a little bit further The path and come up with some of that analysis where we'll freely share that with you.

Speaker 5

Understood. And I guess, if you think about what obviously, this is very early stage, but What have you ruled out in terms of options to finance this growth? Because obviously, today you're announcing The Enpower or the non reg business contemplated possibly taking A minority stake sale in your regulated business, is that something you consider or maintaining a majority or 90% stake in

Speaker 2

I guess Maybe just kind of I'll restate, Maurice, that we're exploring all options. Like we certainly have ample cash in our balance sheet, Continue to have access to debt and equity markets and just we just kind of came out and just We're exploring various alternatives like partnerships, asset sales and even potentially the creation of a separate Aquan Power entity. So we continue to explore a variety of those options to support our growth and add value to shareholders. In terms of kind of the growth and we've kind of gave some guidance on this in the past. We continue to believe that the non rig Portion of our growth could, at the end of the day, represent potentially a 20% of portion of our business.

Speaker 2

So the structure and makeup of our businesses going forward, We don't expect to change from that guidance that we gave.

Speaker 5

Got it. That makes sense. And maybe if I could Ask about your growth CapEx expectations for your Energy Infrastructure business I know that at the start of the year, you had around $800,000,000 of CapEx for 2023 to 20 25, But it's unclear to me what projects are included in there. Maybe you could just speak to that?

Speaker 2

Sure. Thanks, Maurice. So yes, in terms of our kind of a capital spend and we've kind of I've already talked about We're progressing a number of our solar initiatives for the Sadeer Foot, Barlow and Empress projects. We also are progressing our 40 miles Solar, which is I think that additional 220 Megawatts. And then on top of that, we have that 1.5 Gigawatt Pipeline, there's continued to be progress in that, where we go to the 40 mile Phase 2.

Speaker 2

So those are kind of like the sanction projects that we got going now, obviously, More in the pipeline, we've talked about hydrogen being potentially a significant investment area. That's kind of not in those base numbers and but obviously has a potential to be significant.

Speaker 5

And just to clarify, I am going to assume that the Central West pump hydro is not in there, notwithstanding the Altesa results a couple of months

Speaker 2

ago. Yes. I think in terms of the Central West project, for that project currently, since We're currently on hold right now. We continue to work with the government to gather support for that project. And We truly believe that large scale commercial green hydrogen facility or solar sorry, Storage will be needed and it makes a lot of sense for Australia.

Speaker 2

So today, we haven't been successful in getting the Altesa, but we will be other rounds and we'll continue to explore with the government alternative funding arrangements. And we've been successful securing the $9,000,000 grant funding for the New South Wales related to this project. So I guess we'll Continue to give you updates as that progresses.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Ben Pham with BMO. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, thanks. A more quick follow-up. The rebranding, is that just simply a re Branding or is there some movement in legal structure? Just how SCUs running those two businesses in terms of responsibilities and capital allocation.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Ben, for the question. So, in terms of rationale, as we look to shape future of Canadian Utilities while continuing to deliver the long term value for our customers and shareholders, we recognize there's unique opportunities and dynamics between both our kind of non regulated business and our kind of electric and gas utilities. So acknowledging this and the fact that each of these businesses are Their own distinct growth strategies and excelling in our respective markets, we embarked on the creation of So, we believe that this brand evolution will bring greater strategic focus to the 2 businesses and we believe it creates greater kind of organizational alignment To enable both ATCOenergy Systems and Empower to realize their exciting growth trajectory. So nothing more than that at this stage.

Speaker 6

I got you. And it sounds like you'll have a decision for a market sometime later this year. I think that was my read from your commentary.

Speaker 2

In terms of are you referring Ben To the evaluation of various financial options, is that what you're referring to?

Speaker 6

Yes, exactly. It sounds like it's more early stage now, revealing things, Getting feedback. Do you have a sense of when this will be all done?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think We'll continue to complete the review for the rest of the year. And again, the decision might be nothing, continue the course. I think we'd give updates as we go. And I'm sure you'll ask us the same question on our Q3 call and You're in call and we'll be happy to give you an update of where we're at.

Speaker 6

Okay. Got it. And then maybe lastly on Australia was filing of a new access arrangement. Is there I mean, I get the whole CPI Is it just as simple as a flow through or is there more bigger impacts to consider?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I think great question. In terms of the access arrangement, we've been active in that process For some time and I think for the biggest impact is we won't get higher allowed ROEs under the AE6 than What was we received under the AE5, which is obviously great in terms of earnings and from cash perspective. So that's probably the biggest part of what to expect under the new access arrangements. And obviously, we put a lot of work to make sure that our Decarbonization programs and various capital activity that we're doing to support our customers will get approved as part of this access arrangement.

Speaker 2

So that's kind of the key focus, making sure that we had the framework supports the treatment of our Of our ESG goals, enabling hydrogen blending and make sure that keeps long term options to decarbonization trends available to us in part of that submission. So, ROEs is probably, again, the biggest thing to expect from the outcome of this proceeding.

Speaker 6

Okay. I got it. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Mark Jarvi with CIBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yes, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to turn to the disclosure where it's in the MD and A about Suncor withdrawing from the Hydrogen project. Just Maybe can't speak for them, but what it kind of means for you guys? How much would you be willing to shoulder yourself?

Speaker 7

Would you need to bring another partner? And I guess, Does that factor in at all in terms of what you're reviewing in terms of the Npower options?

Speaker 2

Yes, thanks for the question. So as we kind of stated at the MD and A and I'll state today, we remain committed to our hydrogen project and continue to move forward the development of that project going forward. And certainly, the project Has significant potential supply hydrogen to domestic and international markets, including Alberta gas grid, industrial, And this poll and commercial transportation users. So as we kind of noted in our MD and A that subsequent to Our quarter that Suncor Energy had provided notice in the tension withdrawal. So again, just to reiterate, this definitely has not Changed our commitment to hydrogen project nor is it to our ongoing Atlas carbon capture project as well.

Speaker 2

In terms of progress going forward and our commitment, we're in discussions with other hydrogen off takers across the value chain and continue to believe that there's demand in the local market that exceeds the facility capacity even without the previously contemplate off take from Suncor. With the announcement, we are Also in active discussions, I'll mention that we're in active discussions with other operating partners. We're also heavily involved in discussions with the governments. And even as late as last week, we've received some continue to receive some great support for the project. So Overall, still progressing forward, very committed.

Speaker 2

In terms of the overall size trench, we don't think that will be materially different. Obviously, if it goes to the volumes that we're I think partnerships will likely be expected. But again, it's still going to be a meaningful project for like in terms of our stake. But obviously, we're working continue to work with government off takers trying to get the regulatory certainty and government So obviously, still early days, but the progress on this project is definitely proceeding. We've Completed the DBRM phase of the project and are now evaluating progress to the next phase, which is the FEED.

Speaker 2

Hopefully that answers your question.

Speaker 7

Yes. Just to clarify, Brian, you said bringing in operating partners, but you also said sizing it. So just do you think those operating partners would be also Shoulders some of the CapEx and the equity investment as well, right? And so your total commitment wouldn't necessarily change relative to what you would have assumed 6, 12 months ago?

Speaker 2

That's correct. And when the dust settles, that's what we expect. Yes, we expect our operating partners to have an equity stake inside And ensure that we have the right balance between all parties and our investment for what we're planning to take on. So yes, although there'll be some change in that overall partnerships, We don't think that would be materially different than what we contemplated going in.

Speaker 7

Got it. And in terms of The cost of capital proceeds 2024, it seems like maybe increasing it's moving towards a formula. So the updated views in terms of when we'll have clarity on that? And then What comes with that as well in terms of, I don't know, review of earnings sharing mechanisms, criteria for reopeners, does that all fall in the same proceeding or is there a separate Sort of proceeding has to kick off or any of those other elements?

Speaker 2

Yes. Great question. And Yes. In terms of kind of update, we've kind of completed our hearings where we're kind of waiting the decision. Interesting enough, there was Quite a bit of discussion on a formula and the commission came out and signaled they're definitely not set on having a formula.

Speaker 2

So I guess that's I don't want to say that's a certainty. If anything, it's up in the air whether or not the commission will Go with the formula, they might instead arrive at a 2024 generic cost of capital parameters, but We'll need to weigh that against kind of regulatory burden of continuous kind of generic cost of capital proceedings. In terms of kind of the earnings sharing, that should come out as part of that decision as well. And I guess we'll wait the outcome of where the commission

Speaker 7

In terms of timeline, when do you think you'll have clarity?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think, decision is expected to be in October of this year.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

As there are no additional questions, This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Colin Jackson for any closing remarks.

Speaker 6

Thank you so much, Charisse.

Speaker 1

And thank you all for participating today. We appreciate your interest in Canadian Utilities.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

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Key Takeaways

  • Canadian Utilities reported Q2 2023 adjusted earnings of $100 million (C$0.37/share) versus $136 million last year, driven by the rebasing impact from its Alberta utilities’ second performance-based regulation cycle and a tough inflation-driven comparator in Australia; earnings pressure is expected to peak in Q3 with seasonality and spending profiles offering growth potential in Q4.
  • The Australian gas distribution business delivered strong new connections and volume growth, but moderating inflation versus 2022’s surge led to a $5 million year-over-year earnings decline, with further pressure anticipated in H2 2023.
  • Electric generation earnings were bolstered by robust Alberta merchant power prices and the July 1 start of 40 Mile Wind’s long-term PPA, which helped offset lower than normal wind levels in the quarter.
  • Q2 capital investments totaled $336 million—$287 million in regulated utilities and the balance in renewables—highlighted by the commercial operation of Barlow Solar and on-track progress at the Deerfoot and Empress Solar projects.
  • The company has rebranded its non-regulated arms as ATCO Energy Systems (utilities) and Empower (renewables) and is exploring financial alternatives, including a potential spin-out of Empower, to secure capital for its growth pipeline, with stakeholder feedback and any decisions expected later this year.
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