Melco Resorts & Entertainment Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 1, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the 2nd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call, Melco Resorts and Entertainment Limited. Today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ms. Jeannie Kim, Senior Vice President, Group Treasurer of Melco Resorts and Entertainment Limited.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today for our Q2 2023 earnings call. On the call are Lawrence Ho, Jeff Davis, Evan Winkler and our Property Presidents in Macau, Manila and Cyprus. Before we get started, please note that today's discussion may contain forward looking statements made under Safe Harbor provision of the federal securities laws. Our actual results could differ from our anticipated results. In addition, we may discuss non GAAP measures.

Speaker 1

A definition and reconciliation of each of these measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the earnings release. Finally, please note that our supplementary earnings slides are posted on our Investor Relations website. With that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Lawrence Ho.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jeanie. The strength in our Macao recovery is evident in the 43% increase in GGR in the Q2 of 2023 compared to the Q1. Mass profit increased month to month and turnover in our premium direct VIP segment continue to exceed 2019 levels during the Q2. MassRupp further expanded into July surpassing 2019 levels, and daily property visitation in July reached its highest point since Macau's reopening. Labor supply issues in Macau have been largely resolved.

Speaker 2

We have been able to provide our customers with Melco's full suite of services and amenities. We expect to add another 5 16 hotel rooms to our portfolio with the opening of the W Macau at Studio City in September and are well positioned to support the continuing increase of customers in Macau. The mass segment is also leading the recovery in the Philippines, continuing to outperform 2019 levels in the Q2 of 2023. In Cyprus, we opened the City of Dreams Mediterranean to the public in July after a successful soft opening in June and we are excited for its prospects as we ramp up our operations there. With that, I turn the call over to Jeff to go through some of the numbers.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Laurence. Our group wide adjusted property EBITDA for the Q2 of 2023 was approximately $267,000,000 a 40% increase compared to our results in the Q1 of 2023. Luck adjusted group wide property EBITDA for the Q2 of 2023 came in at 277,000,000 dollars A favorable win rate had a positive impact on COD Manila by around 2,000,000 while in Macau, unfavorable win rates at COD and Studio City had a negative impact of approximately 12,000,000 dollars Macau OpEx increased to around $2,400,000 per day in the Q2 of 2023 from around $2,000,000 per day in the Q1. This increase was largely due to the cost of running the residency concert series at Studio City. If we were to exclude this cost, OpEx per day would have been around $2,100,000 per day.

Speaker 3

As Lawrence mentioned in his remarks, labor supply issues have largely been resolved. During our Q1 results call, we estimated that we would have approximately 2,000 fewer full time employees compared to 2019, including Studio City Phase 2. This outlook remains unchanged. This is expected to translate into continued cost savings and increased operating leverage as we move forward. Depreciation and amortization increased in the Q2 of 2023 due to the additional depreciation associated with the opening of Studio City Phase 2 and City of Dreams Mediterranean.

Speaker 3

Similarly, the increase in interest expense during the quarter was related to lower capitalized interest after we completed construction of Studio City Phase 2 and COD Mediterranean. Turning to our cash and liquidity. As of June 30, 2023, we had around $1,600,000,000 of consolidated cash on hand. Melco excluding its operations at Studio City, the Philippines and Cypress accounted for around 800,000,000 dollars Of this, approximately $125,000,000 was restricted as collateral required for concession related guarantees issued to the Macau government. Our total debt balance remained stable from the Q1 to the Q2 of 2023 and net debt decreased by approximately 100,000,000 dollars We will continue to place priority on deleveraging with the excess cash generated as our operational cash flow expands.

Speaker 3

As we normally do, we'll give you some guidance on non operating line items for the upcoming Q3 of 2023. Total depreciation and amortization expense is expected to be approximately $140,000,000 Corporate expense is expected to come in at approximately $20,000,000 Consolidated net interest expense is expected to be approximately 100 and $25,000,000 to $130,000,000 This includes finance liability interest of around $7,000,000 relating to fees payable in relation to the Magao gaming concession and Cypress gaming license and finance lease interest of $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 relating to City of Dreams Manila. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, back to you for the Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of George Choi from Citi. Please ask your question George.

Speaker 2

Thank you for taking my questions. I have a couple, if I may. Firstly, on your last earnings call, you guys said you expect about 20% of the OpEx you reduced during the COVID years to become permanent. Are you still standing by that guidance? And if so, how many percentage points in EBITDA margin improvement would that translate into?

Speaker 2

And my second question is an accounting one. I see the corporate expense being a little higher than usual. Was there any one timer in that figure? Thank you very much. Hey, Jeff, you want to take both of those?

Speaker 3

Sure. So, I recall that our guidance on the Q1 call was that 20% to 25% of our cost savings during COVID, we believe will be translated into permanent savings and we are still comfortable with that guidance. That translates into approximately conservatively 200 basis points of margin improvement. I think that covers your first question, George. And then on the second question for corporate, we do anticipate that coming down in the Q3 to approximately $20,000,000 The increase in the second quarter was related to some one off aviation expense as well as a legal cost as well.

Speaker 2

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

All right. Thank you, George. Our next question comes from the line of John DeCree from CVRB Securities. Please go ahead, John.

Speaker 2

Hi. Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 3

Yes, loud and clear.

Speaker 4

Great, great. Sorry about that. Thanks for taking my question.

Speaker 5

Jeff, I wonder if

Speaker 4

you could maybe talk about the unfavorable hold, City of Dreams and Studio City. I think if I caught the number correctly in your prepared remarks, $12,000,000 impact. Haven't had a chance to go through all the financials yet. Was that all VIP? I know in the 1Q you had quite a headwind in mass market hold as well.

Speaker 4

So just curious about the trends you're seeing there?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you for that question. All of our hold adjustment is strictly on VIP. So we haven't made any adjustment for mass.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks, Jeff. And then maybe a follow-up on the residency concert series at COD. So there's been a bit of discussion about entertainment customers and attracting more entertainment customers. I'm curious if you could and Jeff or Laurence give us a little bit of color on how well you think the concert series is doing in terms of driving additional visitation and what that looks like going forward?

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, John, it's Laurence. Thanks for the question. We're very happy with the residency series that just ended last weekend. Maybe David or Kevin can provide more color.

Speaker 2

But it has been it tracked all the boxes for us. On one hand, the Macau government wants the operators to have more entertainment, sporting events. And so that was the key one. But more importantly for us internally and for Studio City in particular, it has raised the awareness of Studio City and we have seen firsthand how busy the property becomes once we have those events on-site. So maybe David and Kevin can add more color.

Speaker 6

Sure, Lawrence. So look, in terms of what we've seen with the now we've done 34 shows between what we did with Joey, Leon Lai and with Aaron Kwok that just ended this last weekend as Lawrence said. But if you look at the number of covers that we've drawn in our restaurants, the number of visitation numbers have gone up quite a bit. We've seen a lot of impact with our hotel rooms and the packages that we've sold. We've seen the spending patterns go up considerably now with the customers that are coming in.

Speaker 6

So it's been a really nice lift for us. As Lawrence said, I think the level of awareness that's been built now will continue to drive that level of visitation forward as we go into the 3rd and 4th quarters here.

Speaker 4

Great. Appreciate all the color. Thanks for taking my questions and nice quarter everyone.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Praveen Chaudhary from Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question Praveen.

Speaker 5

Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 6

Yes, we can hear you.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hey, thanks Jeff. Thanks Lawrence. Just a quick question for Jeff. What will be the OpEx when your W will be open in September?

Speaker 5

So let's just say 4th quarter OpEx compared to 2,400,000 dollars That's the first question. The second question is assuming that your mass revenue is already running at higher than 2019 level and you just mentioned the cost is much lower. Can I assume that in July you're already making more than 2019 level of EBITDA or there are some other drivers or issues that we should be aware of? And then the last question for Laurence is, a lot of people are worried that the mass grind mass side of the business has not picked up as much as the premium mass. And I understand that you are playing in the premium side.

Speaker 5

But overall Macau, do you have any thoughts of plateauing at this level versus keep improving every month towards 2019 and higher? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hey, Jeff. You want to take the first couple of questions and then I'll deal with the last one.

Speaker 3

Sure. So on OpEx, I can share, call it, an outlook for where we think that will settle in for the Q3. So on a reported basis, I think you'll see that in around the $2,500,000 per day range. If we make the same adjustment that we did for 2nd quarter by excluding the concert series, I would say that number normalizes into around $2,300,000 to $2,400,000 per day.

Speaker 2

So sorry, let me I haven't answered Rubin's question. There. On the grind mass and the mass mass question, the transportation infrastructure is still coming online. It hasn't fully recovered. So if you look at the airlift going into Macau right now, it's probably at around 50%.

Speaker 2

And Macau over the last 6 months since the recovery has started has become a very much a weekend market. So going forward, when the infrastructure improves, transportation infrastructure improves, we believe that the grind mass will probably fill out more of the weekday business and the tour groups. So the tour groups are finally starting, but they haven't fully recovered yet. And so far, the recovery has exceeded everybody's expectation, but it's been driven really by premium mass. So once the grind mass layer comes in, I think that will give us incremental growth.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Laurence. I had one more follow-up for you, but also a Jeff question was also there that we were asking about July being mass better, cost lower. Are we already at higher than 2019 EBITDA? So maybe Jeff can answer that. But one question for you, Laurence, is on the non gaming side.

Speaker 5

Is it correct that all the 6 players have submitted their non gaming proposal and that has not been approved and we are going back and forth in terms of what exactly government wants. Can you give a little bit more details of what exactly are you working on and what will be the final outcome? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. I think on the non gaming, first of all, the investment proposal, the original investment proposal was agreed by the Macau government when we did for the licenses last November, December. So that was the first approval. And then I think by May and David can probably supplement and give more of a detailed account. I think it was approved again by May, but what we're seeing right now is that there is a lot of reporting on all of the operators part, monthly reporting, quarterly reporting.

Speaker 2

So I think there's a lot of negotiations and discussions on do you do this, do you do that? I guess maybe David, you can provide a bit more color.

Speaker 6

Sure. So Pravin, there's obviously there's 2 types of things that we're doing related to the tender that was approved for our initial plan. There's certain capital costs that were done for the casino that we're obviously executing on. And again, it's pretty well documented in terms of what we would normally do as we upgrade the casino or replace certain items or things as we're going along. The other one is kind of a collection of non gaming kind of things.

Speaker 6

Those non gaming things can be in terms of capital or they can be in terms of events, concerts, sporting events, things that we're sponsoring. So everything we've said we're going to do with the government, we've done and we're executing on. As Lawrence said, there's a very significant measure that goes along in terms whether it be a quarterly measurement with the DICJ or MGTO or IPIM or something that we do on a monthly basis. But they're monitoring it quite closely, trying to make sure everyone's doing what they're saying. But additionally, as we're going along, there's sometimes where certain things may not make sense that we said we were going to do back in 2022.

Speaker 6

So we work with the government to go back and make adjustments and slide other things into programs or things that kind of support some of the things the government is trying to do as we try to attract a lot more international visitation or try to build the MICE business in Macau.

Speaker 2

So, Karleen, I think the most important thing for us as an operator is we're going to stick to the number for the investment proposal that we put in when we got our license last December. So we might make changes in terms of events or things that we're going to put in, but we're going to stick to that number.

Speaker 5

That's very clear, David. Thank you, Laurence, for clarifying this. Can I still get the answer on the EBITDA in July considering mass and cost, please, from Jeff?

Speaker 3

Yes. Okay. Circling back around to me, Praveen. So I don't want to get ahead of ourselves in respect to the Q3 results. I'm confident that we have taken share from the Q2 into July, but we are not quite at the levels of GGR to get us back to 2019 levels of EBITDA.

Speaker 5

Very helpful. Thank you very much and congratulations. This is a good result.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Simon Cheung from Goldman Sachs. Please ask your question, Simon.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Laurence. Thanks, Jeff. In relation to what you mentioned about the success of hosting all these residential sold, I wanted to see whether you can help us to perhaps quantify some of the numbers, perhaps on the visitation number or even any retail sales number you can actually share with us?

Speaker 7

That would be helpful. That's on the first question. And also in relation to that, obviously, you have done quite well and done quite a lot on the Silducity. How you are seeing the maybe the potential opportunity to maybe further driving visitation and market share at COD? We've been hearing a lot more competitions or people are giving out a lot of reinvestments in, for example, the sport pallets and the other properties.

Speaker 7

So wondering whether you can also comment about the competitions among the premium mass segment as well. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hey, Simon. So maybe I'll talk about the competition on premium mass and then hand it over to David to supplement. We're obviously, Q1, we started out slow, but I think we've gained some meaningful share in the Q2. And so far, beginning the Q3 in July, we've had the best months just like the entire Macau, we've had the best month since the reopening. But I think on mass drop and on premium direct roll, we are at over 100 percent of Q2 2019 level.

Speaker 2

So we're quite happy with that. In the market, there are competitors, especially some newer ones who are probably more aggressive in terms of the reinvestments and the referral fees that they pay. But at the same time, we are very comfortable with the Sure. Thanks, Lawrence. So I think if you kind of look at what's happened with the

Speaker 6

Sure. Thanks, Lawrence. So I think if you kind of look at what's happened with the residency concept series, one thing we've seen is a really nice pickup obviously on the visitation to the property, particularly Studio City. That visitation, as I said before, has driven certainly a huge number of covers for us on both on that as we go through on that weekend, but even up to the time leading up to that period on the, let's call it, the shoulder periods for the concert series. So on that, we get that Thursday, Friday, we start seeing a large pickup on that.

Speaker 6

The occupancies we're seeing right now are running probably at Studio City now. We're running in the high 90s to sometimes where we're completely sold out. This is also happening during a lot of the weekdays as that level of awareness has been built. Further, we're starting to see more traffic in our retail areas. I don't have the specifics on that in terms of how much our retail sales have gone up, but we are seeing more traffic, more customers going in and spending.

Speaker 6

We're seeing a lot more traffic in a lot of our, let's say, our food and beverage outlets that are, let's say, our 3rd party outlets that are hold those restaurants. They've seen a huge increase in the number of covers and they're quite happy. I think one of the nice things that we've seen now as well is it's really kind of ignited our water park as well. The water park during the month of July was running at over 1900 people a day. So again, we've seen a really nice lift in overall in terms of the visitation, the level of spend over at Studio City.

Speaker 6

So it's doing some good things for us. Additionally, we've also seen as we've kind of gone from month to month here since we've opened up Epic back in April, we've also seen a nice increase in the players that are coming in, as well as we started seeing a recapture of some of the market share to where we're now over 4% of market share with Studio City. So again, just a nice level of increase. We think that will continue to build as we get into the second excuse me, as we get into the 3rd and 4th quarters.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Congrats on good solid results.

Operator

Thank you. I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back to Jeannie for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you. And thank you all for participating in our conference call today. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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