NYSE:BOOT Boot Barn Q1 2024 Earnings Report $113.46 +5.73 (+5.32%) Closing price 05/2/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$111.16 -2.30 (-2.03%) As of 05/2/2025 04:09 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Boot Barn EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.11Consensus EPS $0.84Beat/MissBeat by +$0.27One Year Ago EPSN/ABoot Barn Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$383.70 millionExpected Revenue$362.49 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$21.21 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABoot Barn Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date8/2/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 2, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsBoot Barn's Q4 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Boot Barn Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Everybody, and welcome to Boot Barns Holdings First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Mark Dedovich, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Financial Planning. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:19Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Boot Barn's Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings results. With me on today's call are Jim Conroy, President and Chief Executive Officer and Jim Watkins, Chief Financial Officer. A copy of today's press release, A supplemental financial presentation is available on the Investor Relations section of Boot Barn's website at bootbarn.com. Speaker 100:00:41Shortly after we end this call, a recording of Call will be available as a replay for 30 days on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. I would like to remind you that certain statements we will make in this presentation are forward looking statements. These forward looking statements reflect Boot Barn's judgment and analysis only as of today, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting BluePartners business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with the forward Statements to be made during this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward looking statements that is included in our Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings release as well as our filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer. Speaker 100:01:24We do not undertake any obligation to update or alter any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. I will now turn the call over to Jim Conroy, Boot Barn's President and Chief Executive Officer. Jim? Speaker 200:01:38Thank you, Mark, and good afternoon. Thank you, everyone, for joining us. On this call, I will review our Q1 fiscal 2024 results, discuss the progress we have made across each of our 4 strategic initiatives and provide an update on current business. Following my remarks, Jim Watkins will review our financial performance in more detail and then we will open the call up for questions. Speaker 300:02:01We are Speaker 200:02:01very pleased with and will be recorded for the fiscal 2024 year and our Q1 results. During the quarter, total sales increased 4.9%, driven primarily by sales from new stores added over the last 12 months, partially offset by a low single digit decline, a negative 2.9% and consolidated same store sales. We feel great about this performance given that the business was cycling plus 10% and plus 79% growth in consolidated same store sales in the prior year and 2 year ago periods. Additionally, we are quite pleased with the sales results both in stores and online with both businesses outperforming our guidance for the quarter. In addition to strong sales performance, during the quarter, we achieved 80 basis points of product margin expansion, driven primarily by more than 600 basis points of growth in exclusive brand penetration. Speaker 200:02:56The strength in sales and margin combined with solid expense control drove Earnings per diluted share of $1.13 during the quarter compared to our guidance of $0.85 I'm extremely pleased with and our start to the year with the team's execution continues to deliver both top and bottom line results. I'll now spend some time discussing each of our 4 and With our acceleration in new store openings, we have been able to open 86 stores over the last 2 years. With the opening of 16 new stores in the Q1, we ended the quarter with 361 stores across 44 states. I'd like to thank the Real Estate Construction, Visual Merchandising and Store Operations teams for their collaboration and persistence in getting these new stores up and running successfully. Our new stores continue to pay back in fewer than 18 months with strong average unit volumes in the 1st year and we remain confident in our ability to achieve our long term stated goal of 900 or more stores across the United States. Speaker 400:04:11Moving to Speaker 200:04:11our second initiative, driving same store sales growth. 1st quarter consolidated same store sales declined 2.9% with retail store same store sales declining 1.8% and e commerce same store sales declining 10.8%. Notably, comps improved sequentially by month throughout the quarter in both channels. And while still negative, the sequential improvement in store comps was driven by sequential improvement in average transactions per store. From a merchandise department perspective, nearly all major merchandise Category showed sequential improvement in the Q1 from our fiscal year end. Speaker 200:04:51Men's Western boots and apparel achieved low single digit positive comps. Ladies Boots and Apparel declined in the quarter, but showed sequential improvement from year end, while cycling strong double digit comps in a year ago and 2 year ago periods. From a geographic standpoint, stores in the North and East regions Showed a slight decline in same store sales, but performed better than chain average. The South lagged the chain average with a mid single digit decline and the West performed in line with chain average. From a customer perspective, we are very Pleased with the growth we continue to see in our customer base with 7,500,000 active members in our Be Rewarded loyalty program as of the end of our Q1. Speaker 200:05:37This represents growth of 23 percent from 6,100,000 members as of the end of our Q1 of fiscal 2023. Over the past few years, we have used our customer segmentation as a foundation to strategically extend the reach of the brand and attract a broader range of consumers. Historically, Boot Barn was more narrowly focused on the Western and Work customers. Over the past few years, we added a Country Lifestyle segment as well as a somewhat smaller segment targeting women seeking Western inspired fashion. The growth in our customer count is quite encouraging as we are seeing both the and ongoing development of the newly added segments, while we are also expanding the size of the core Western and Work customer groups. Speaker 200:06:21Similarly, we are seeing healthy growth in customer count in our legacy stores, while also capturing a considerable number of new Understanding of the strength of the brand with our customer base, I would like to spend a minute highlighting a recent customer survey we performed. First, the survey results further confirmed that the elevated average store volumes we have seen over the last couple of years were not driven by Fashion Trend, as more than 75% of customers are purchasing with us because Western and Work product is part of their everyday lifestyle and wardrobe. 2nd, the Yellowstone television show does not seem to be a factor behind the significant acceleration we saw in sales over the last several years, with only 4% of customer responses citing Yellowstone as a reason for wearing our product. Lastly, our customers' propensity to shop with us continues to be very high with over 90% of customers either very likely or extremely likely to shop at Boot Barn again over the next 12 months. While we acknowledge that there is a sample bias in the server responses that we receive, We are pleased to see that the results are consistent with our CRM data regarding new customers and their shopping preferences. Speaker 200:07:45For more details on the survey results, please refer to the supplemental financial presentation that we released today. Speaker 400:07:53Moving to Speaker 200:07:53our 3rd initiative, strengthening our omni channel leadership. In the Q1, our e commerce same store Sales declined 10.8%, which was an improvement from a decline of over 18% in our 4th fiscal quarter. Notably, the Boot Barn brand did see positive sales growth for the quarter, but not big enough to offset the weakness in the Sheplers and Country Outfitters brands. We continue to believe that our e commerce business went back to a positive growth trajectory beginning in late September or early October when the last year comparisons become easier. Despite the slowness in e commerce sales, we are quite pleased with the many achievements we have seen from an omnichannel First, the team has greatly expanded the digital influence in our stores. Speaker 200:08:41We have rolled out Bandit, which adds artificial intelligence to our customer facing shopping tablet, helping customers to get expert styling advice in store. In addition, we have equipped our store associates and call center operators with the same artificial intelligence capabilities to enable all of them to provide much richer product knowledge and shopping recommendations. We've also made great progress from an e commerce fulfillment perspective. Today, we have the ability to ship most e commerce through the limited amount of clearance that we have system wide at a less aggressive markdown. It will also help us to minimize shipping time and cost by shipping orders geographically closer to customer demand. Speaker 200:09:36Now to our 4th strategic initiative, exclusive brands. During the Q1, our exclusive brand penetration increased over 600 basis points to 38%. This is our 3rd consecutive quarter of greater than 500 basis points of year over year growth compared to our historical stated goal 250 basis points to 300 basis points of growth. We now expect to grow exclusive brand penetration for the fiscal year by 500 basis points to 39% of sales. With exclusive brands providing an incremental 1,000 basis points of margin compared to 3rd party brands, This penetration growth has added meaningfully to our margin profile. Speaker 200:10:18To support the substantial growth we have seen in store count and in our exclusive brand business over the last couple of years. We recently expanded our supply chain capability by adding an additional distribution center in Kansas City, Missouri. As a reminder, most third party inventory is fulfilled directly by our vendors to our stores and does not pass through a Boot Barn distribution center. However, when it comes to our exclusive brand product, we warehouse that merchandise in our DCs and replenish the store demand ourselves. We are pleased to report that the new DC facility opened on time and is operating smoothly as we begin to ramp up the throughput of goods over the next few months. Speaker 200:10:58I want to thank our entire supply chain and IT teams for their world class execution in getting the new DC up and running without any major disruptions. Turning to current business. On a consolidated basis, our July business declined 0.5%, which was an improvement on our Q1, but a slight deceleration from June. Our retail store same store sales Performance remained positive in the month of July, while e commerce sales declined 11.4% for the month. While it is exciting to see the tone of business begin to improve, it has also proven to be somewhat unpredictable with weekly comp performance ranging from negative 7% to positive 6% over the past 4 months. Speaker 200:11:46Accordingly, we Attempted to capture this volatility in our sales guide for the balance of the second quarter, which Jim Watkins will provide later on this call. Looking beyond the comp sales growth, we continue to feel great about the new store performance and the pipeline of new locations for the balance of the year. We are also quite pleased with our exclusive brands, which saw an extremely strong growth in penetration for July that has contributed to a solid product margin. In summary, while macro uncertainty persists, we feel we are well positioned to navigate through nearly any environment that comes our way. I'd like to now turn the call over to Jim. Speaker 200:12:27Thank you, Jim. Speaker 300:12:28In the Q1, net sales increased 4.9% to for $384,000,000 As Jim mentioned, our sales performance benefited from new stores opened during the past 12 months, partially offset by a consolidated same store sales decline of 2.9%, comprised of a decrease in retail store same Gross profit increased 3 percent to $142,000,000 or 37.0 percent of sales compared to gross profit of $138,000,000 or 37.7 percent of sales in the prior year period. The 70 basis point decrease in gross profit rate resulted from 160 basis points of deleverage in buying, occupancy and distribution center costs, partially offset by a 90 basis point increase in merchandise margin rate. The increase in merchandise margin rate was driven by 80 basis points of product margin expansion, resulting primarily from a 30 basis point increase in exclusive brand penetration and a 10 basis point tailwind from lower freight expense as a percentage of sales. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the quarter were $96,000,000 or 24.9 percent of sales compared to $85,000,000 or 23.3 percent of sales in the prior year period. The increase in SG and A expenses compared to the prior year period was primarily a result and corporate overhead costs in the current year. Speaker 300:14:11Income from operations was 46,000,000 or 12.1 percent of sales in the quarter compared to $52,000,000 or 14.3 percent of sales in the prior year period. Net income was $34,000,000 or $1.13 per diluted share compared to $39,000,000 or $1.29 per diluted share in the prior for the prior year period. Turning to the balance sheet. On a consolidated basis, inventory increased 6% over the prior year period for $566,000,000 This increase was primarily driven by new store inventory and exclusive brand growth, partially offset by an approximately 9% decrease in average comp store inventory. We finished the quarter with $17,000,000 in cash and $26,000,000 drawn on our $250,000,000 revolving line of credit. Speaker 300:15:06Turning to our outlook for fiscal 2024. As outlined in our supplemental financial presentation, we are raising our guidance for both the Q2 and full year. As the presentation lays out the low and high end of our guidance range for both periods, I will only speak to the high end of the range in my following remarks. As we look to the Q2, we expect total sales at the high end of our guidance range to be $379,000,000 We expect the same store sales decline of 3.5 percent with a retail store same store sales decline of 2.5% and an e commerce same store sales decline of 9%. We expect gross profit to be $134,000,000 or approximately 35.4 percent of sales. Speaker 300:15:53Gross profit reflects an estimated 50 basis point Increase in merchandise margin, including flat freight expense year over year. We anticipate 180 basis points of deleverage and buying occupancy and distribution center costs. Our income from operations is expected to be $38,000,000 or 10% of sales. We expect earnings per diluted share to be $0.90 As a result of our and for the Q2, we are raising our full year guidance. Our guidance for the second half of the year remains unchanged. Speaker 300:16:31For the full fiscal year, we now expect total sales at the high end of our guidance range to be $1,750,000,000 representing growth of 5.5 percent over fiscal 2023, which as a reminder was a 53 week year. This compares to our previous guidance of $1,720,000,000 We expect same store sales to decline 3% with a retail store same store sales decline of 3.5% and flat e commerce sales. This compares to our previous guidance with the same store sales decline of 4.5 percent with the retail store same store sales decline of 5.2% and e commerce same store sales growth of 1%. We now expect gross profit to be $646,000,000 or approximately 36.9 percent of sales. Gross profit reflects an estimated 160 basis point increase in merchandise margin, including a 100 basis point improvement from freight expense. Speaker 300:17:30We anticipate 150 basis points of deleverage in buying occupancy and distribution center costs. Our income from operations is expected to be $223,000,000 or 12.7 percent of sales. We expect net income for fiscal 2024 to be $163,000,000 and earnings per diluted share to be $5.35 We also expect our interest expense to be $3,200,000 and capital expenditures Speaker 500:17:59to be Speaker 300:17:59$95,000,000 Now, I would like to turn the call back to Jim for some closing remarks. Thank you, Jim. We're quite pleased with Speaker 200:18:08our financial performance during the Q1 and are looking forward to the balance of the year. I do want to thank the entire Boot Barn team for their hard work and briefly acknowledge and well deserved third party recognition. Every year, Newsweek conducts an independent consumer survey and assembles a list of America's best to retailers. The assessment measures the customer's view on product assortment, in store service, store design and merchandising, as well as a few other factors. For 2023, Boot Barn topped that list with the highest score of any company across 39 different categories of retailing. Speaker 200:18:47A heartfelt thank you to the entire team nationwide for working so hard and for getting the accolades that you all deserve. Congratulations. Now, I would like to open the call to take your questions. Sherry? Operator00:19:00Thank And for participants choosing speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan, please proceed. Speaker 600:19:27Great. Thanks and congrats on another nice quarter. Thanks, Matt. So Jim, could you just maybe help break down drivers of the sequential traffic acceleration that you saw through the quarter, Notably, as you cited, the return to positive store comps in both June July. And then just how best to think about your forward comp Speaker 200:19:56Sure. Matt, you did a nice job of clarifying that you wanted Jim to answer that one. So this will be Jim Connery will take it first, Greg. The progression from Forward Q1, a few different things improved depending on if you want to look at it by channel or by merchandise category, etcetera. First, our e commerce business, while still negative, improved sequentially by about 8 points. Speaker 200:20:29Our store business improved. Notably, our West division, our West region improved by about 2 full points. Within the merchandise hierarchy, men's Western Boots had some nice sequential improvement, men's Western Apparel had some nice sequential improvement, both of those turning positive. And ladies' western boots, while still negative, the trend improved by about 700 basis points. So there was a number of different factors, whether you're looking at it by merchandise category or by channel or by geography within The stores business. Speaker 200:21:16In terms of looking forward on the guidance piece, I'll turn it over to the other Jim. Speaker 300:21:21Hey, Matt. So the sales assumptions for the second half of the year are unchanged and we've left Largely left August September unchanged as well. We did increase the store sales a little bit and decreased e commerce sales a little bit just based off we've been seeing in the business over the last 4 weeks. So August September are planned of minus 4% in stores And e commerce for August looks similar to July with September improving to negative single digits. And then just as a reminder, kind of recapping from the last call, we were really using the sales volume from February, March April and projecting the sales for the balance of the year using historical weekly sales curves. Speaker 300:22:08And when we were We're contemplating the guide for this quarter. We took a similar approach looking at, again, the most recent 4 weeks For the balance of this quarter and also looked at it at varying time periods and we got to a similar spot regardless of which of those time periods we used. Speaker 600:22:29Okay. That's great color. And then maybe just a follow-up on new stores that you cited. So can you touch on Productivity that you're seeing from some of your newer store builds, maybe across regions. And just could you elaborate on any key structural changes that you've made to the business That support now the higher mid teen store growth? Speaker 200:22:50Sure. The new store productivity is in line with The $3,500,000 new store sales that we've been calling out recently. And Matt, as you fully recognize that is Nearly double what we originally had thought in our original long term algorithm. In terms of sort of the infrastructure changes, we do tend to run pretty lean. We have added 1 real estate deal maker that sits on the East Coast to help develop that part of the country. Speaker 200:23:30We continue to use an extensive broker network. We've added a couple of project managers, of course. And then within the field organization, we have some a few more people working in visual merchandising that help with the in store setup, etcetera. And I think maybe even more than We have a really solid onboarding and training program for new store managers and new teams within a new store. As soon as it became apparent that we weren't always going to be able to transfer an assistant manager to promote them to be a store manager to another part of the country, We really relied on the HR team and the store ops team to figure out a way to bring in external talent and sort of teach them the Boot Barn methods and the Boot Barn culture and that has worked extremely well. Speaker 200:24:38We continue to feel Very optimistic about our new store openings, their performance, our pipeline, Our top side target of at least 900, and we'll just continue to kind of stamp out what is proven to be a Speaker 600:25:00It's really helpful color. Best of luck. Speaker 200:25:04Thanks, Matt. Operator00:25:06Our next question is from Steven Zaccone with Citi. Please proceed. Speaker 700:25:11Great. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to follow-up about your commentary regarding some volatility in the comps by week over the last 2 months. How much of that is just weather? Speaker 700:25:24We know it's been hot in the South, so I'm curious for your perspective on that. And I guess, has there been anything changing from a consumer purchase activity, whether it's Potential trade down or anything of that nature would be helpful. Speaker 200:25:40Steve, I would Sumit that it's just been difficult to pin it down to a particular external factor. We've had extremely hot weather as you pointed out that didn't necessarily always correlate to tougher business. We've had some great concerts come into town in some parts of the country that have spiked business. Conversely, we've anniversary big concerts in the LY period that have brought that business down. So we felt it was important to call out because we do feel good about the present tone of the business, but it has It's been a word that's been used by other public companies reporting recently is choppy. Speaker 200:26:34It's been a little choppy. And when we were trying to lay out guidance for the Q2, we wanted to just kind of take note of the fact that June July were great, the last week in July wasn't so great. So let's just kind of build all of that or hope to build That uncertainty into the guide for the balance of the quarter and for that matter for the year. Speaker 700:27:01Okay. Appreciate that detail. Then a question for Jim Watkins. Just on the gross margin outlook, It doesn't sound like much has changed, but I noticed in the Q2, I guess freight still expected to be flat year over year. So it sounds like that freight Benefit is largely going to be back half weighted. Speaker 700:27:19Is that fair? Speaker 300:27:22That's right. Yes. The Freight, And again, this is consistent with what we were seeing last quarter when we reported the first half of this year would be kind of flat. And then We'd really see that benefit pick up as we get into Q3 and Q4, and pretty significantly to get us to 100 basis points of a tailwind on the full year. Speaker 200:27:47Okay. Thanks very much. Speaker 300:27:50Thanks, Steve. Operator00:27:52Our next question is from Max Relecco with TD Cowen. Please proceed. Speaker 800:28:00Hi, this is Bradley Jamieson on for Max. So first, sticking with gross margin, Jim Watkins, can you speak to where your markdown percentage of goods is today compared to pre pandemic? And then how do you Expect that to trend ahead. Is this sort of a more normalized state now or could they fluctuate higher or lower ahead? Speaker 300:28:22Yes, great question. The markdown percentage of sales is very much in line with where it was pre pandemic. And again, the last couple of years, we saw historically low markdown percentage, but it's back to where We've seen it historically over the years pre pandemic, and we expect that to stay in a similar place as we move throughout the year and going forward. Speaker 800:28:49Great. And then Jim Conroy, your footwear mix over the past few years has Clients of 47% in the last fiscal year from 52% to 53% in a few years prior to the pandemic. What do you attribute that decline to? And what do you think the implications of that mix shift could be? And do you think footwear will continue to trend lower over time? Speaker 800:29:11Thanks guys. Speaker 200:29:14Sure. Great question. I guess I tend to be more glass is half full. It's I would view it more as because it's a percent to 100, we've had some businesses, most notably Ladies Apparel, Grow considerably. And while Ladies Apparel has been under pressure recently, we had a year plus Where that business grew roughly 100%. Speaker 200:29:43And of course, when one category grows so much, it just Pushes the share of the remaining businesses that need to add to 100 down a little bit. I think we'll see ebbs and flows over the next few years. I don't think this is a Ongoing trend one way or the other that 5 years from now footwear will be 40%. 5 years from now, we'll probably roughly fifty-fifty again on either side of fifty-fifty. In terms of margin There's almost nothing to read into that. Speaker 200:30:22I mean, the margins across the businesses are pretty similar between footwear and apparel. There are some less meaningful differences once you get further into the merchandise hierarchy. But if you're just looking at the split between footwear and apparel, it doesn't really change the margin profile of the business. I think I've already given you one or 2 more sentences on that more anecdotally. As we have broadened The definition of what Boot Barn means, looking a little bit outside of the core work in Western customers and reaching out to customers that might be tangentially interested in a brand like Boot Barn, I think it's an easier first Purchase for them to enter the brand with apparel and then over time they may invest more into the higher ticket categories like footwear. Speaker 800:31:27Great. Thanks, guys. Best of luck. Speaker 200:31:30Thanks, Brian. Thank you. Operator00:31:32Our next question is from Jason Haas with Bank of America. Please proceed. Speaker 700:31:38Hey, good afternoon and thanks for taking my questions. So I wanted to follow-up on the e commerce business. I was just curious if you could provide a little bit more color on what is going on with the Sheplers business. It sounds like that's been the biggest drag at least for a couple of quarters now. So just curious why that business has been softer? Speaker 700:31:56And I know the compares will start to get easier, it will start to lap this, but I'm just curious what you're doing, if anything, to try to lessen those declines? Speaker 200:32:06Sure. Great question. The Sheplers business has two dimensions that have challenged their top line, both traffic and conversion have come down. So we are trying to Work on anything we can internally to stem the tide on conversion for sure, is there something about the site, the setup, etcetera. From a traffic perspective, about half of the traffic to Sheplers So and we have a very algorithmic view of how we go out And drive top of funnel traffic to our sites, which is we hold ourselves to a profitable return on ad Spend metric. Speaker 200:33:06So once we lock in that return on ad spend, if traffic is down, while we Could spend more and improve traffic, it would be EBIT eroding. So we just don't do it. I mean, we We really look at the bottom line contribution. And if the next customer is going to be an unprofitable purchase, we won't go after them. So we are certainly looking to try to find ways to improve that business. Speaker 200:33:33I think the other dimension, of course, is billboard.com has 360 plus billboards around the country. We think that business will grow over time. There are other players that play in the e commerce business that are always taking share whether they're new entrants for vendors, etcetera. But when we look at the full portfolio of the company with while we're an omnichannel business, we clearly prioritize the 90% of the sales that come through the stores and that strategy has worked for us. And as we start to now see e commerce traffic More difficult to get for us and for others. Speaker 200:34:21Yes, I think when I look at the strategy over the last several years, while Somewhat unconventional is starting to pay off for us that people are now coming back to stores, digital native brands starting to open stores and we've got a 5 year head start on all of them. Speaker 700:34:41That's great. Thank you. And then as a follow-up, you mentioned concerts In response to an earlier comment on some of the volatility, we're continuing to get questions about this Taylor Swift tour. I don't know if that's what you're referring to or other ones, Yes, maybe you could help clarify that. Thank you. Speaker 400:34:57Sure. While she is Speaker 200:35:00an amazing performer, we actually don't See massive swings in our business from Taylor Swift. For the sake of everybody out there who will now freak out when one of these Artist comes to town or leaves town. The names that drive our business for the most part are George Strait, Garth Brooks, Morgan Wallen sort of the more traditional Western artists. And so Morgan Walling was in Phoenix a few weeks ago. We saw the Phoenix business spike tremendously. Speaker 200:35:40We're cycling a Garth Brooks concert in the last year period in Houston, I think this upcoming week. So we can look at that volatility week to week and try to normalize it for ourselves over the period of months And certainly over the year and we called this out in the past that the overall concert events Business is a low single digit piece of our business. It's just in a quarter or in a month or in a market, If you shrink the denominator enough, it becomes impactful. Speaker 700:36:18Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:36:21Of course. Operator00:36:23Our next question is from Jonathan Komp with Baird. Please proceed. Speaker 500:36:29Yes. Hi, good afternoon, Jim. I want to ask, When you look back at March April, just what do you make of the comp softness that you saw And then the recovery from those lows. And could you just share a little bit more? I believe your full year guidance was based on Yes, those volumes back then and it sounds like you haven't changed your second half guidance. Speaker 500:36:57So just how should we think about that 2nd half and how you've contemplated it and kind of the degree of conservatism, if you will? Speaker 300:37:09Yes. So starting with the question around What we're seeing for the guidance for the balance of the year, those from a pure comp perspective, those months for our softer months of the year. And we've got a slide in the deck on Page 10 that kind of goes through those store comps by month. And so as we've looked at the back half of the year and the more recent business, there is Probably a little bit of conservatism embedded in the sales trends for the back half of the year. But again, given the volatility that we've seen over last few months. Speaker 300:37:51And again, it's kind of depicted there on Slide 10. Leaving the back half of the year where it is, at least for right now, Made a lot of sense. And again, we did take different cuts, as I mentioned earlier, looking at the most recent 13 weeks and the most recent 26 weeks and the most Recent 4 weeks and at least getting through Q2, leaving that guidance where it was made some sense. And again, the back half of the year, Probably a little bit of conservatism in there, but leaving it where it was, it seemed like a good approach. Speaker 500:38:31And just to follow-up, did you have any sort of diagnostic looking back at March April, maybe what happened and You have more insight on what changed and turned pretty quickly there? Speaker 300:38:46No, I don't know that we have any one thing that we can point to. I know there was a lot of noise in the market around whether there were tax refunds or weather or heavy rain or coming out of heavy rain We're just going up against the prior years where we had a lot of noise around the onset of COVID and then Omicron and tax stimulus and child tax credits and volatility back there. So maybe there's something in the Yes, 2 year, 3 year or 4 year ago comp that was creating a little bit of noise, particularly as March April is where We saw that in the prior years. Speaker 500:39:30That makes sense. And then Jim, if I can follow-up on SG and A, it looks like This year, obviously, you've maintained a healthy pace of investment and initiatives plus cost to support the growing store base. As we look forward on SG G and A, how should we think about the growth rate and the level of comps and really time line to get back to showing leverage on SG and A overall? Speaker 300:39:56Yes. I think it's a great question. We talked about leverage points on the last call around SG and A being around a 2.5% comp. And so again, we'll Speaker 200:40:09We'll have to get Speaker 300:40:09through this year and look into fiscal 2025 and what our sales guidance is, but if we've returned to positive Comp growth then to the tune of that 2.5%, then I think that's something where we can get some leverage. We have seen some pressure over the last several Yours just in wage rate and some of the inflationary costs around supplies and insurance and utilities and that sort of thing. And so also as inflationary pressures subside, that's something that would help around the SG and A 1. Speaker 500:40:48Perfect. That's really helpful. Best of luck. Thanks. Speaker 200:40:52Thanks, John. Thanks, John. Operator00:40:54Our next question is from Dylan Carden with William Blair. Please proceed. Speaker 900:41:00Thank you. Just curious, the new distribution capacity that you've added for private label out of Kansas City, what level of business can that support Even sort of broadly, and how you're kind of thinking of that business, it's still growing sort of higher levels than I I think we'd even thought a couple of years ago. Speaker 200:41:21Yes, sure. Well, absolutely, it has been. The way we have modeled it is It should take care of our needs if we stay on a 15% store growth trajectory And 300 basis points of exclusive brand penetration increase each year. We probably have about 6 or 7 more years of capacity before we'd have to add An additional facility, which would likely be on the East Coast. Speaker 900:42:00Got you. And The online guidance, I'm just trying to understand it and you've kind of been asked a couple of times here about sort of the level of conservatism, but I guess part of that business is also related to what you're seeing in the brand channel, the owned brand channel or your sort of partner brand channel. Can you just help us understand the inflection? I get that it's easier comparisons, but not necessarily on a stack basis. Does part of it have to do with Sort of the behavior of some of your partners and I guess maybe what are you seeing there as you look to the back half? Speaker 200:42:36Sure. I think there are a couple if you're talking about our vendor partners, yes, I think there are vendors that in Certain instances are encroaching on our digital business. They are, of course, Seeking out the higher margins, I think, yes, from going direct to consumer. But That's kind of always been in our DNA, right, or at least for the last few years. I'm not sure there's been a step up, maybe other than Perhaps an increase in their digital marketing spend. Speaker 200:43:20I think so I think there is probably some competitive pressure there. I also I just had a gut feel when you think about just the channel split, it does and there's other examples of this where The store's business for some retailers is starting to come back where e commerce is under pressure. And this morning, Steve Madden reported a negative decline in their direct to consumer e commerce business, which Yes, they're a great company and a great brand and theoretically could be getting ongoing growth on e commerce. So I can't really put a finger on it specifically, but it could be some competitive pressure, it could be the numbers we're up against, it could be the fact that we won't chase the business with more ad spend because It's just EBIT dilutive for us. But we're going to continue to try to improve the business sort of operationally, Change the merchandising on the site as many different ways as we can and look for other novel ways to grow either traffic or conversion. Speaker 300:44:29And Dylan, just as far as the guidance goes, similar to what we talked about with the stores, we did look at The weekly sales volume of the e commerce sites and that business and how that builds throughout the year, week over week and month over month. And so as we updated the guide for the rest of this quarter, we were looking at those weekly sales volumes in the build there. And so, and its relation as a percentage of sales on the year and how it's seasonally impacted. And so that gives us the confidence To put that e commerce guide there and to leave the back half of the year where we had it. Speaker 900:45:10And that again, the back half is really just lapping the promotional activity from the brand partners as they sort of re flush their own inventory balances, right? Speaker 300:45:21Yes. And there's a little bit of that into in Q2. Again, if you look at the chart on Page Page 14, which it sounds like you're looking at, yes, you'll see some of that as we get into September at the end of this quarter, and that's where we We have talked about end of Q2 or early Q3 that business returning to positive. Speaker 900:45:45Awesome. Thanks a lot guys. Thanks, Speaker 200:45:48Don. Thanks, Don. Operator00:45:50Our next question is from Janine Stichter with BTIG. Please proceed. Speaker 1000:45:56Hi, everyone, and congrats on the momentum. I want to ask a little bit about The private label business, it's growing really nicely. It sounds like better than you expected. And maybe elaborate a bit more on what's working there. And then it looks like we'll be at close to 40% penetration by the end of the year, I think 38%. Speaker 1000:46:13So would love some updated thoughts on what the ceiling is for that business? How big could it ultimately become? Thanks. Speaker 200:46:22Sure. We've seen, I think, broad based success there. Our biggest brands, Cody James and Cheyenne, continue to gain ground. Cody James is now the biggest brand in the company, which is remarkable for exclusive brands for one of our exclusive brands that doesn't compete in every single category. It's only a men's brand. Speaker 200:46:49We've seen some really terrific growth from Idyllwind. That brand only started 5 years ago and that partnership continues to be incredibly strong and that business is just Growing very, very solidly. And then our new brands, right? We've had some new brands just Come out of the gate extremely quickly, others maybe a little slower, but we haven't had any new brand that has just been a complete dog. And that's all sort of added business and adding to our penetration. Speaker 200:47:27In terms of our top side target, We will always be a house of brands. We know that there are that our customer is going to want to always find Certainly, the big iconic national brands in our space, they want to be able to find those in our store. But I don't see any reason why we can't continue to grow 3 points a year for the next 5 years or so and we'll get to 50% or 55% over time. It's just What we learned, I think, is the consumer trusts us as the authoritative source in the So what we put on the shelf, how we assert the store, we've built the credibility that we're The curator of the assortment and as a customer comes in, what we believe in and what we've bought and Put on the shelf. They're going to gravitate towards. Speaker 200:48:35It also, as you well know, It provides a very attractive margin profile, where 3rd party brands Typically can't compete. We have had instances though where 3rd party brands Have stepped up and improved their IMU and we've Sort of really invested in their product and their assortment and they've gotten some really, really nice outsized growth. So it's To some degree, it will depend on the reactions from the vendor partners as to how they want to partner with us. But yes, regardless for the big brands out there, they'll always have a home in our store and in our hearts. Thanks, Jim. Speaker 200:49:31Jim putting his hand over his heart. Speaker 1000:49:35No, that's helpful. And I guess I would be curious to know if you had any Perspective or maybe survey work you've done just on how your consumers view your exclusive brands, do they view them as national brands? Are they aware of their Boot Barn brands? Speaker 200:49:47It's a great question. It's a mixed bag. We track this isn't specifically answering your question because I don't think we've done That research, head on. It's a good suggestion, perhaps we should. But we do track, social media and Reddit posts for And because we're trying to get unfettered customer feedback And if you were to pour through that, you would see that Sometimes they're complaining, sometimes they're quite happy and sometimes they know it's Speaker 300:50:27a Boot Barn brand and Speaker 200:50:27sometimes they have no idea. So I think I do think it's a mixed bag. I think the bigger more legacy brands, Cody James and Cheyenne Have built more independence in their name and aren't as Anchored to the store brand, I would probably put Idyllwind in that same camp. I mean Miranda Lambert Is a great advocate for us and for the Idyllwind brand. And then the others, they probably have some Indication that they're store brands. Speaker 200:51:08One more sentence and then I'll pause. We do position them just as regular brands, right? They're priced in line with national brands. Every bit is good quality. We try not to promote them in any higher frequency than other brands. Speaker 200:51:24So they feel they kind of look and feel and act like a national brand. Speaker 1000:51:33Perfect. Thanks so much. Operator00:51:37Our next question is from Cory Tarlow with Jefferies. Please proceed. Speaker 1100:51:44Great. Thanks for taking my question. I'm curious how you're thinking about pricing throughout the rest of this year. Obviously, Inflation has receded some and it felt like for quite some time inventory was a really significant topic of conversation. But now it seems like inventories are well in control. Speaker 1100:52:05So could you maybe also talk a little bit about your expectation for Inventory throughout the rest of the year. Speaker 200:52:14Sure. On the pricing piece, We did have a reset over the last 24 months where there was some inflationary pressure across the entire supply chain. National Brands are brands, inbound freight, etcetera. And while we tried to hold our pricing as much as we could, Inevitably, we had to push some of that through to retail pricing. And if you do all the arithmetic on our transactions and our comp, You'd recognize that we've and we called this out that our AURs have gone up. Speaker 200:52:49I think where we stand now, There's no obvious places where we'll be raising retails. We have had a couple of vendors lower their wholesale cost to us and we've lowered The retail price in the store maintaining that same markup percent and candidly the strategy has worked with They've seen a higher velocity at a slightly lower price point. So I think we have somewhat Reached a more stable equilibrium where there's not going to be a gyration in pricing Up or down in a meaningful way. Yes. We're back Speaker 300:53:38to where we're seeing just the regular price increases that we would And then Corey, as far as your question around inventory, where we see that going, we're really pleased To see, that number come down just a little bit, dollars 23,000,000 down from where we were 3 months ago, despite the addition of the new stores during the quarter and the continued growth in exclusive brands. So The team is doing a really nice job of managing through the inventory and making sure we've got the right inventory to support the sales level. So while we're not guiding inventory through the balance of the year, we're happy with where that is and how that's being managed. And I think A lot of that too is with the supply chain being more fixed than it was the last couple of years. We're able to Get the product more in line with when we want it and where we want it. Speaker 1100:54:39Great. Thank you very much. And then just another question on the men's business. It sounds like you have some pretty Decent momentum there. Are there any specific callouts within the men's business that you would say are really driving momentum there? Speaker 200:55:00It's been pretty broad based. We've seen maybe outsized growth in within the boots category in exotic skin boots, which is the notable piece of that is that's our higher Price points and frankly, the highest price points in the store. So with a lot of discussion around our people trading down, etcetera, that hasn't Within men's apparel, Speaker 1200:55:35the stronger Speaker 200:55:38at the highest level, we Split men's apparel into denim and non denim and the denim business has been better than the non denim business. I think those are the kind of the 2 big call outs. Speaker 1100:55:54Great. Very helpful. Thank you very much and best of luck. Speaker 200:55:58Thank you. Thanks. Operator00:56:01Our next question is from Jay Sole with UBS. Please proceed. Speaker 1300:56:07Great. Thank you so much. I just wanted to follow-up on some of the commentary on the new stores. Is it possible to talk about the new some of the new stores and some of the markets where People don't traditionally think of Boot Barn from, I guess, from the investor side, like Manchester, Connecticut is a store that opened recently. Can you talk about a store like that, not to get too specific, Compared to like Texas, Southwest, California, where traditionally most people think the stores were, can you just talk about how the stores are doing in some of the newer markets? Speaker 200:56:34Sure. Sure. The quick answer is they're doing quite well. When we open a new store In Texas or California, particularly if there's not a store nearby, those two States notably stand out. Those 2 states are our highest average unit volumes for a retail store. Speaker 200:56:59But if you exclude those 2 and you say, let's just look at the rest of the country, a new store in Connecticut or in outside of Philadelphia or Niagara Falls or outside of Albany looks a lot like a new store in most of the rest of the country. They sell Western oriented product in roughly the same proportion. They sell men's cowboy boots and ladies cowboy boots and men's cowboy hats. We open them with our traditional brand footprint. We don't contort The look and feel of the store or the product assortment, and strategically, what that does for us It emboldens us to just continue to roll out the concept because we haven't had to make Significant changes to the model and I don't want to minimize all the hard work that happens at the product by product level by the merchants and the merchandise planners and the allocation team, because we do tweak a little bit, but most of the big brands are in all the stores. Speaker 200:58:13The major categories in terms of percent of total are roughly in line with the rest of the country. And the tweaks that we're making are sort of below The skin a little bit. Speaker 1300:58:29Got it. Jim, that's interesting. If I can just follow-up on one more, just because you talked a lot about Success of brands like Cody James and Cheyenne and Ottawind. And then the question is, how much when you see the success, do you think bigger In terms of like turning these brands into more than just Boot Barn brands, like maybe creating their own websites, creating like Pinnacle product, maybe trying to place them Super premium boutiques or things like that and really building them out in their own right to sort of enhance what they are and then buy in turn enhance what Boot Barn is doing. Speaker 200:58:59It is an ongoing dialogue and perhaps one that we will kind of pull on that string a bit more in the future. We have done some things, right? We now have rodeo athletes that wear our exclusive brands Matt Bray and up and coming a pretty established Saddle Brock rider. Then Brocker Steiner wears RANG 45, one of our newer And so Speaker 100:59:25we have done a bit Speaker 200:59:26of that, and we do treat them as at least quasi brands. But Perhaps over time, we will put them even further on a pedestal and really invest more to build that brand equity further than just the positioning and the inventory in the stores. Speaker 1300:59:52Got it. Okay. Thank you so much. Operator00:59:56Our next question is from Sam Poser with Williams Trading. Please proceed. Speaker 1401:00:03Well, thank you for taking my questions. I have A couple here. One, as you grow the exclusive brand business and you mentioned you're committed Having National Brands as well. How is your assortment changing? I mean, sort of what gets squeezed out, Because you can't get everything into the store all the time. Speaker 1401:00:31So as that penetration grows, how do you manage sort of And what falls to the side? Speaker 201:00:39Sure. Great question. Typically what happens is the 3rd or 4th Player in a particular product category gets either minimized or eliminated And the exclusive brand takes that spot. And then because you're a merchant at heart, Sam, The exclusive brands then earn their keep, right? We do look at sales to stock ratios for exclusive brands versus third party brands. Speaker 201:01:10They have Turn roughly in line or in line with the rest of the store or we'll make some changes. But if you think of the bigger, most iconic names in Our arena, whether that's ORC Brands or Western Brands, we tend to not Squeeze them out. We want people to we want customers to come to the Because we have the brands they'd expect us to have, but the smaller brands, the ones that do less marketing, the ones that are less well known Tend to seed market share to the exclusive brands. Speaker 1401:01:57Thank you. And then secondly, On the talk about e commerce, rather than talk about the revenue, what percent of your sales Like does the consumer touch your mobile app, touch your website, and then maybe comes to the store? I mean, Is your digital presence a traffic driver or doing more than just More than what the comps than the sales trend may actually show. Speaker 201:02:33Yes, absolutely. Of course. And the digital team here does an awful lot to help drive store traffic, so which is why we built the app, which is why we continue to invest in mobile And that omnichannel view, even if they're just buying in the stores and not online, I certainly believe that they many shopping journeys start digitally and particularly on a handheld. Speaker 1401:03:10And do you have a is there a measurement you have of that? Or Are you pulling customers? How did you hear about us when they come in or sign up for the sign up for your membership and so on? Speaker 201:03:24I don't have a great answer for that. Perhaps that's something we'll add to our next round of customer research though. Speaker 1401:03:34And then, I mean, this was asked at the beginning of the call. I'm going to ask it one more time or if I had a follow-up. You came in Significantly better than what you anticipated in the prior guidance. And so one, can you is there anything you guys That you could attribute to making that happen. And secondly, within the there appears to me to be a change in the way You're guiding you're doing a lot more versus, let's say, a year or 2 ago, you're guiding the upcoming quarters and the balance of the year. Speaker 1401:04:11If there has been a change in the way you approach giving guidance, can you give us some color on that, please? Speaker 301:04:20I'll start with that second question, Sam. I think the way we're providing guidance, I think we're explaining it Maybe a little bit more around the weekly sales trend that we're seeing and how that plays out for the rest of the year. Historically, again, going back to pre COVID, because we did stop guiding for a couple of years During COVID and after, the weekly sales trend or the monthly sales trend and what percent of the year that made up was, We use that methodology and what's different to now is that lined up more with the Prior year comp looking at the 1 year comp and what we're up against and whether it's easier comps or harder comps, our 2 year stack. And I think with some of the variability that we saw coming out of COVID and is the looking at a 1 year or a 2 year STACK or a 2 year comp to provide guidance fell apart a little bit and we saw that on display last year with our guidance. We've leaned more into the more scientific approach of looking at The build during the year and how that compares to historical penetrations each month as a percent of the year or whatever it is. Speaker 301:05:48Thank you. Speaker 201:05:51Thanks, Sam. Operator01:05:52Our next question is from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed. Speaker 401:06:00Thanks and congrats on the strong results. I wanted to ask another question Speaker 201:06:05on the exclusive brands. Speaker 401:06:05And just as we Brands. And just as we flash back to 5 years ago, when your penetration was A little less than 20%, and now it's going to be roughly double that. You expected, I think, at the time, kind of 200 basis points to 300 basis points of exclusive brand penetration, but you've gotten roughly double that really with the exception of the kind of COVID 2020 calendar year. I wanted to just as we've gone from like a 10,000 square foot Store to 12,000 Square Foot Store. How much of the change is really to the dedicated floor space to exclusives. Speaker 401:06:50So is that kind of been in lockstep or are we really seeing just velocities of exclusives really outpacing a lot of these other national brands. Speaker 201:07:03It's a great Question and a very good hypothesis. I would tell you that the increase in the size of the store and the increase in the penetration of And the integration of exclusive brands, while correlated, I don't think it's causal. We got to those two decisions through completely different Logic flows, if you will. On the exclusive brand penetration, One of the things that happened coming out of COVID was Widespread news around how difficult supply chains were, our 3rd party vendors honestly did everything that they could to try to help Get their product to us, but our business was taking off, that year after COVID in a pretty meaningful way. And even the best vendors that we have despite their best efforts were shipping us short And the one supply chain that we got 100% of what we ordered and could control it even better was our exclusive brands. Speaker 201:08:15So it set up an experiment that we didn't think we were doing, which was As sales take off and we have to put more exclusive brand product into a store, what will happen? And The answer came back a resounding. Well, consumers will respond to those brands in most, if Not all cases, in many cases. And I think that helped build our confidence. So we came out of a very difficult Time, a terrible pandemic, a challenging supply chain, but we did learn some really valuable lessons that The Boot Barn brand may be first, and then our Azusa brands have more strength and Brand equity and consumer awareness and recognition than we had originally thought. Speaker 201:09:12And then we've upgraded the exclusive brand team. We've added some great new designers there. We have a relatively new leader there, has been there for a couple of years now. Yes. I think we work really well between the buying organization and the design organization and throw stores in there. Speaker 201:09:35So I think it's been an Ongoing initiative, to get that part of the business going. In terms of the store size, the store size increased just because sales Started to increase and we started to realize that it may have been a Chicken and egg. As we built bigger stores, we had more sales or had we as we had more sales, we needed a bigger store. So we just We made a decision one day to increase the size of the store and also increase The opening inventory levels of a store and we're actually trying to track what store was the first to do it. We think it was Erie, Pennsylvania store, but it was around that time about two and a half years ago where we Decided to play more offense with the new store, larger store, more inventory and we started to see the average volumes of New stores come in higher, so we just continue with that strategy. Speaker 201:10:41But it was separate and distinct really from The investment in inventory and our exclusive brands. Speaker 401:10:51Thanks. That's a great point. I guess So I the other question was just Really quick here from a kind of markdown competitor promotion standpoint, Any noticeable changes that you've seen within the industry? Speaker 201:11:14Not really. I mean, some on the margin. Some of our Competitors are running a typical promotion that they've run-in the past, but they're running it 1 week longer or starting it at a different time. As you well know though, most of the people that we compete against On a store by store basis, tend to have one store. And we don't really track what they do And we wouldn't change anything that we're doing based on what the market or the industry is doing. Speaker 201:11:50We have our plan. We're And if companies raise prices, lower prices, become more promotional, it's just it's not going to impact us. Speaker 401:12:01Great. Thanks for the color. Best wishes. Speaker 201:12:05Thank you. Operator01:12:07Our next question is from Mitch Kummetz with Seaport Research. Please proceed. Speaker 1501:12:13Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Just drill down a little bit more on ladies boots and apparel. So last quarter, you mentioned that ladies boots and apparel were down 11% and down 13%, And that was against more than an 80% 2 year stack. I believe, Jim, you said that Ladies Boots apparel improved like 7 points this quarter from last. Speaker 1501:12:38So can you just kind of maybe give us Those comps for the quarter and can you say what the 2 year compare was? Speaker 201:12:48Sure. The 7 point sequential improvement was boots and not apparel. The apparel business Between Q4 and Q1 was roughly in line. The Q1 comps Last year for those businesses were also quite strong. This is one of those crazy things where you have to start looking at year after year after year, but both boots and apparel last year Q1 were 20 plus percent comps and in the prior year, Q1 were both over 100% comps and of course, they were cycling The April May of 2020, which was a COVID thing. Speaker 201:13:30So you can drive yourself mad, but they we always want all our businesses to grow, but And I've said this on prior calls. I think all of the merchants in the business are doing a really nice job of and we're very pleased with maximizing their business. Some of them are just up against monster numbers and others are up against very strong numbers. So We certainly love to see the businesses get sequentially better. We love to see the fact that ladies boots as an example in July was positive and that was Great thing to see. Speaker 201:14:06But more than anything, what's nice to see is sort of this Steady progression of a strengthening piece of that part of the business and not giving it all back, but that's been As you know, speaking with investors, that's been sort of a potential narrative out there as well, the average unit volume of store has gone up The ladies business has doubled and it's all going to be given back. And it's with each passing quarter, That eventuality seems more remote. Speaker 1501:14:41And then I know that looking at the multi year gets tricky, Just depending on all the noise over the last few years, but maybe just thinking about it on a year over year basis, does that when does the ladies business Yes, easier. Is it starting in 2Q or is it 3Q? Speaker 201:15:02In 3Q is Where we start to cycle easier Speaker 1501:15:07than later. Speaker 201:15:09Yes. Okay. Speaker 1501:15:10All right. Thanks. Good luck. Speaker 401:15:13Thanks Mitch. Operator01:15:14And our final question is from John Lawrence with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed. Speaker 1201:15:21Hi, guys. Congrats. Speaker 201:15:23Thank you, John. Thanks, John. Speaker 1201:15:27Yes. Jim Conroy, would you comment just a little bit, When you look at the store fleet and some of the older stores, obviously, neighborhoods change, Traffic patterns changed a little bit. Are there any of those older stores that either slated for Productivity improvements, paint expansion, to get a little and then if you do that, Do you get a little higher return on some of those stores if that construction or expansion takes place? Speaker 201:16:03Sure. Absolutely. Well, we have an ongoing program of There are really 3 different buckets. 1 is, in some cases, just full on relocation, so moving the store across town, making it bigger, putting it in The latest and growing part of a particular city or taking a store that's doing reasonably well, we still like And typically when we do that, we see A nice pickup in sales or maybe said differently, we tend to not do a full remodel unless we expect a nice pickup in sales. And then we have kind of a third tranche. Speaker 201:16:49We are if you look at the brand aesthetic for Boot Barn over the last 5 or so years. We've made a strategic decision to Make the brand more aspirational, to elevate the creative, to change the way we go to market From a marketing perspective, I mean, our Creative Director basically completely changed the brand trajectory and got away from price and promotion and went to sort of Americana Western legacy and heritage view of Boot Barn. And the stores need to kind of match that. So the new store design certainly does, but we did have some 20, 30 year old stores that needed to be upgraded. So we'll probably touch 25 stores this year and Pull out old carpeting and change lighting and change some fixtures. Speaker 201:17:47They won't necessarily get a full on remodel, But they'll get some capital investment. Perhaps we'll see a return on that. In some cases, we know we're doing it just to get the sort of Speaker 1201:18:05Great. And last thing for me is, when you look at that exclusive brand pipeline Going forward, I mean, you've done so much there over the last 5 or 6 years. Is that pipeline for new products still adjacencies and Different categories still just as strong? Speaker 201:18:24Yes. I think at some point, we'll probably see Growth in exclusive brands, but maybe not 5 or 6 points of growth. Maybe we'll come back to 250 or 300 basis points of Penetration growth in a year. You called it out well. Typically what happens is a brand launches And then sort of spreads within a store to include some new categories. Speaker 201:18:49So We found a new market in kind of Western style Sport jackets for men that have a Cody James brand in it now and that was in a business a few years ago. So they'll find different Subcategories or we'll take a brand and extend it into both sizes or extended sizes or wide sizes in boots and they'll get a little bit more penetration. So it's not always the launch of a brand new brand. Sometimes it's just Expanding the working ones, finding out what's working and doubling down and maybe cutting the losses on some of the stuff that isn't working as well. Speaker 1201:19:36Great. Thanks. Thanks for squeezing me in. Good luck. Speaker 201:19:40No problem. Thank you. Operator01:19:42We have reached the end of our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jim Conroy for closing comments. Speaker 201:19:50Well, thank you everyone for joining the call today, And we look forward to speaking with you on our 2nd quarter earnings call. Take care. Operator01:19:58Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for yourRead morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBoot Barn Q1 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Boot Barn Earnings HeadlinesMiranda Lambert Debuts New Tattoo That Fans Believe Has a Special Connection to One of Her Favorite InterestsMay 3 at 6:22 AM | msn.comKeyCorp Has Lowered Expectations for Boot Barn (NYSE:BOOT) Stock PriceMay 2 at 1:55 AM | americanbankingnews.comElon just did WHAT!?As you may recall, Biden and the Fed were working on a central bank digital currency, or CBDC. Had they gotten away with it, the Fed and U.S. banks could have seized control of our financial lives forever. 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The company's specialty retail stores offer western and work-related footwear, apparel, and accessories for men, women, and kids. It offers boots, shirts, jackets, hats, belts and belt buckles, handbags, western-style jewelry, rugged footwear, outerwear, overalls, denim, and flame-resistant and high-visibility clothing. The company also provides gifts and home merchandise. The company also sells its products through e-commerce websites, including bootbarn.com; sheplers.com; and countryoutfitter.com. The company was formerly known as WW Top Investment Corporation and changed its name to Boot Barn Holdings, Inc. in June 2014. 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There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Everybody, and welcome to Boot Barns Holdings First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Mark Dedovich, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Financial Planning. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:19Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Boot Barn's Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings results. With me on today's call are Jim Conroy, President and Chief Executive Officer and Jim Watkins, Chief Financial Officer. A copy of today's press release, A supplemental financial presentation is available on the Investor Relations section of Boot Barn's website at bootbarn.com. Speaker 100:00:41Shortly after we end this call, a recording of Call will be available as a replay for 30 days on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. I would like to remind you that certain statements we will make in this presentation are forward looking statements. These forward looking statements reflect Boot Barn's judgment and analysis only as of today, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting BluePartners business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with the forward Statements to be made during this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward looking statements that is included in our Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings release as well as our filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer. Speaker 100:01:24We do not undertake any obligation to update or alter any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. I will now turn the call over to Jim Conroy, Boot Barn's President and Chief Executive Officer. Jim? Speaker 200:01:38Thank you, Mark, and good afternoon. Thank you, everyone, for joining us. On this call, I will review our Q1 fiscal 2024 results, discuss the progress we have made across each of our 4 strategic initiatives and provide an update on current business. Following my remarks, Jim Watkins will review our financial performance in more detail and then we will open the call up for questions. Speaker 300:02:01We are Speaker 200:02:01very pleased with and will be recorded for the fiscal 2024 year and our Q1 results. During the quarter, total sales increased 4.9%, driven primarily by sales from new stores added over the last 12 months, partially offset by a low single digit decline, a negative 2.9% and consolidated same store sales. We feel great about this performance given that the business was cycling plus 10% and plus 79% growth in consolidated same store sales in the prior year and 2 year ago periods. Additionally, we are quite pleased with the sales results both in stores and online with both businesses outperforming our guidance for the quarter. In addition to strong sales performance, during the quarter, we achieved 80 basis points of product margin expansion, driven primarily by more than 600 basis points of growth in exclusive brand penetration. Speaker 200:02:56The strength in sales and margin combined with solid expense control drove Earnings per diluted share of $1.13 during the quarter compared to our guidance of $0.85 I'm extremely pleased with and our start to the year with the team's execution continues to deliver both top and bottom line results. I'll now spend some time discussing each of our 4 and With our acceleration in new store openings, we have been able to open 86 stores over the last 2 years. With the opening of 16 new stores in the Q1, we ended the quarter with 361 stores across 44 states. I'd like to thank the Real Estate Construction, Visual Merchandising and Store Operations teams for their collaboration and persistence in getting these new stores up and running successfully. Our new stores continue to pay back in fewer than 18 months with strong average unit volumes in the 1st year and we remain confident in our ability to achieve our long term stated goal of 900 or more stores across the United States. Speaker 400:04:11Moving to Speaker 200:04:11our second initiative, driving same store sales growth. 1st quarter consolidated same store sales declined 2.9% with retail store same store sales declining 1.8% and e commerce same store sales declining 10.8%. Notably, comps improved sequentially by month throughout the quarter in both channels. And while still negative, the sequential improvement in store comps was driven by sequential improvement in average transactions per store. From a merchandise department perspective, nearly all major merchandise Category showed sequential improvement in the Q1 from our fiscal year end. Speaker 200:04:51Men's Western boots and apparel achieved low single digit positive comps. Ladies Boots and Apparel declined in the quarter, but showed sequential improvement from year end, while cycling strong double digit comps in a year ago and 2 year ago periods. From a geographic standpoint, stores in the North and East regions Showed a slight decline in same store sales, but performed better than chain average. The South lagged the chain average with a mid single digit decline and the West performed in line with chain average. From a customer perspective, we are very Pleased with the growth we continue to see in our customer base with 7,500,000 active members in our Be Rewarded loyalty program as of the end of our Q1. Speaker 200:05:37This represents growth of 23 percent from 6,100,000 members as of the end of our Q1 of fiscal 2023. Over the past few years, we have used our customer segmentation as a foundation to strategically extend the reach of the brand and attract a broader range of consumers. Historically, Boot Barn was more narrowly focused on the Western and Work customers. Over the past few years, we added a Country Lifestyle segment as well as a somewhat smaller segment targeting women seeking Western inspired fashion. The growth in our customer count is quite encouraging as we are seeing both the and ongoing development of the newly added segments, while we are also expanding the size of the core Western and Work customer groups. Speaker 200:06:21Similarly, we are seeing healthy growth in customer count in our legacy stores, while also capturing a considerable number of new Understanding of the strength of the brand with our customer base, I would like to spend a minute highlighting a recent customer survey we performed. First, the survey results further confirmed that the elevated average store volumes we have seen over the last couple of years were not driven by Fashion Trend, as more than 75% of customers are purchasing with us because Western and Work product is part of their everyday lifestyle and wardrobe. 2nd, the Yellowstone television show does not seem to be a factor behind the significant acceleration we saw in sales over the last several years, with only 4% of customer responses citing Yellowstone as a reason for wearing our product. Lastly, our customers' propensity to shop with us continues to be very high with over 90% of customers either very likely or extremely likely to shop at Boot Barn again over the next 12 months. While we acknowledge that there is a sample bias in the server responses that we receive, We are pleased to see that the results are consistent with our CRM data regarding new customers and their shopping preferences. Speaker 200:07:45For more details on the survey results, please refer to the supplemental financial presentation that we released today. Speaker 400:07:53Moving to Speaker 200:07:53our 3rd initiative, strengthening our omni channel leadership. In the Q1, our e commerce same store Sales declined 10.8%, which was an improvement from a decline of over 18% in our 4th fiscal quarter. Notably, the Boot Barn brand did see positive sales growth for the quarter, but not big enough to offset the weakness in the Sheplers and Country Outfitters brands. We continue to believe that our e commerce business went back to a positive growth trajectory beginning in late September or early October when the last year comparisons become easier. Despite the slowness in e commerce sales, we are quite pleased with the many achievements we have seen from an omnichannel First, the team has greatly expanded the digital influence in our stores. Speaker 200:08:41We have rolled out Bandit, which adds artificial intelligence to our customer facing shopping tablet, helping customers to get expert styling advice in store. In addition, we have equipped our store associates and call center operators with the same artificial intelligence capabilities to enable all of them to provide much richer product knowledge and shopping recommendations. We've also made great progress from an e commerce fulfillment perspective. Today, we have the ability to ship most e commerce through the limited amount of clearance that we have system wide at a less aggressive markdown. It will also help us to minimize shipping time and cost by shipping orders geographically closer to customer demand. Speaker 200:09:36Now to our 4th strategic initiative, exclusive brands. During the Q1, our exclusive brand penetration increased over 600 basis points to 38%. This is our 3rd consecutive quarter of greater than 500 basis points of year over year growth compared to our historical stated goal 250 basis points to 300 basis points of growth. We now expect to grow exclusive brand penetration for the fiscal year by 500 basis points to 39% of sales. With exclusive brands providing an incremental 1,000 basis points of margin compared to 3rd party brands, This penetration growth has added meaningfully to our margin profile. Speaker 200:10:18To support the substantial growth we have seen in store count and in our exclusive brand business over the last couple of years. We recently expanded our supply chain capability by adding an additional distribution center in Kansas City, Missouri. As a reminder, most third party inventory is fulfilled directly by our vendors to our stores and does not pass through a Boot Barn distribution center. However, when it comes to our exclusive brand product, we warehouse that merchandise in our DCs and replenish the store demand ourselves. We are pleased to report that the new DC facility opened on time and is operating smoothly as we begin to ramp up the throughput of goods over the next few months. Speaker 200:10:58I want to thank our entire supply chain and IT teams for their world class execution in getting the new DC up and running without any major disruptions. Turning to current business. On a consolidated basis, our July business declined 0.5%, which was an improvement on our Q1, but a slight deceleration from June. Our retail store same store sales Performance remained positive in the month of July, while e commerce sales declined 11.4% for the month. While it is exciting to see the tone of business begin to improve, it has also proven to be somewhat unpredictable with weekly comp performance ranging from negative 7% to positive 6% over the past 4 months. Speaker 200:11:46Accordingly, we Attempted to capture this volatility in our sales guide for the balance of the second quarter, which Jim Watkins will provide later on this call. Looking beyond the comp sales growth, we continue to feel great about the new store performance and the pipeline of new locations for the balance of the year. We are also quite pleased with our exclusive brands, which saw an extremely strong growth in penetration for July that has contributed to a solid product margin. In summary, while macro uncertainty persists, we feel we are well positioned to navigate through nearly any environment that comes our way. I'd like to now turn the call over to Jim. Speaker 200:12:27Thank you, Jim. Speaker 300:12:28In the Q1, net sales increased 4.9% to for $384,000,000 As Jim mentioned, our sales performance benefited from new stores opened during the past 12 months, partially offset by a consolidated same store sales decline of 2.9%, comprised of a decrease in retail store same Gross profit increased 3 percent to $142,000,000 or 37.0 percent of sales compared to gross profit of $138,000,000 or 37.7 percent of sales in the prior year period. The 70 basis point decrease in gross profit rate resulted from 160 basis points of deleverage in buying, occupancy and distribution center costs, partially offset by a 90 basis point increase in merchandise margin rate. The increase in merchandise margin rate was driven by 80 basis points of product margin expansion, resulting primarily from a 30 basis point increase in exclusive brand penetration and a 10 basis point tailwind from lower freight expense as a percentage of sales. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the quarter were $96,000,000 or 24.9 percent of sales compared to $85,000,000 or 23.3 percent of sales in the prior year period. The increase in SG and A expenses compared to the prior year period was primarily a result and corporate overhead costs in the current year. Speaker 300:14:11Income from operations was 46,000,000 or 12.1 percent of sales in the quarter compared to $52,000,000 or 14.3 percent of sales in the prior year period. Net income was $34,000,000 or $1.13 per diluted share compared to $39,000,000 or $1.29 per diluted share in the prior for the prior year period. Turning to the balance sheet. On a consolidated basis, inventory increased 6% over the prior year period for $566,000,000 This increase was primarily driven by new store inventory and exclusive brand growth, partially offset by an approximately 9% decrease in average comp store inventory. We finished the quarter with $17,000,000 in cash and $26,000,000 drawn on our $250,000,000 revolving line of credit. Speaker 300:15:06Turning to our outlook for fiscal 2024. As outlined in our supplemental financial presentation, we are raising our guidance for both the Q2 and full year. As the presentation lays out the low and high end of our guidance range for both periods, I will only speak to the high end of the range in my following remarks. As we look to the Q2, we expect total sales at the high end of our guidance range to be $379,000,000 We expect the same store sales decline of 3.5 percent with a retail store same store sales decline of 2.5% and an e commerce same store sales decline of 9%. We expect gross profit to be $134,000,000 or approximately 35.4 percent of sales. Speaker 300:15:53Gross profit reflects an estimated 50 basis point Increase in merchandise margin, including flat freight expense year over year. We anticipate 180 basis points of deleverage and buying occupancy and distribution center costs. Our income from operations is expected to be $38,000,000 or 10% of sales. We expect earnings per diluted share to be $0.90 As a result of our and for the Q2, we are raising our full year guidance. Our guidance for the second half of the year remains unchanged. Speaker 300:16:31For the full fiscal year, we now expect total sales at the high end of our guidance range to be $1,750,000,000 representing growth of 5.5 percent over fiscal 2023, which as a reminder was a 53 week year. This compares to our previous guidance of $1,720,000,000 We expect same store sales to decline 3% with a retail store same store sales decline of 3.5% and flat e commerce sales. This compares to our previous guidance with the same store sales decline of 4.5 percent with the retail store same store sales decline of 5.2% and e commerce same store sales growth of 1%. We now expect gross profit to be $646,000,000 or approximately 36.9 percent of sales. Gross profit reflects an estimated 160 basis point increase in merchandise margin, including a 100 basis point improvement from freight expense. Speaker 300:17:30We anticipate 150 basis points of deleverage in buying occupancy and distribution center costs. Our income from operations is expected to be $223,000,000 or 12.7 percent of sales. We expect net income for fiscal 2024 to be $163,000,000 and earnings per diluted share to be $5.35 We also expect our interest expense to be $3,200,000 and capital expenditures Speaker 500:17:59to be Speaker 300:17:59$95,000,000 Now, I would like to turn the call back to Jim for some closing remarks. Thank you, Jim. We're quite pleased with Speaker 200:18:08our financial performance during the Q1 and are looking forward to the balance of the year. I do want to thank the entire Boot Barn team for their hard work and briefly acknowledge and well deserved third party recognition. Every year, Newsweek conducts an independent consumer survey and assembles a list of America's best to retailers. The assessment measures the customer's view on product assortment, in store service, store design and merchandising, as well as a few other factors. For 2023, Boot Barn topped that list with the highest score of any company across 39 different categories of retailing. Speaker 200:18:47A heartfelt thank you to the entire team nationwide for working so hard and for getting the accolades that you all deserve. Congratulations. Now, I would like to open the call to take your questions. Sherry? Operator00:19:00Thank And for participants choosing speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan, please proceed. Speaker 600:19:27Great. Thanks and congrats on another nice quarter. Thanks, Matt. So Jim, could you just maybe help break down drivers of the sequential traffic acceleration that you saw through the quarter, Notably, as you cited, the return to positive store comps in both June July. And then just how best to think about your forward comp Speaker 200:19:56Sure. Matt, you did a nice job of clarifying that you wanted Jim to answer that one. So this will be Jim Connery will take it first, Greg. The progression from Forward Q1, a few different things improved depending on if you want to look at it by channel or by merchandise category, etcetera. First, our e commerce business, while still negative, improved sequentially by about 8 points. Speaker 200:20:29Our store business improved. Notably, our West division, our West region improved by about 2 full points. Within the merchandise hierarchy, men's Western Boots had some nice sequential improvement, men's Western Apparel had some nice sequential improvement, both of those turning positive. And ladies' western boots, while still negative, the trend improved by about 700 basis points. So there was a number of different factors, whether you're looking at it by merchandise category or by channel or by geography within The stores business. Speaker 200:21:16In terms of looking forward on the guidance piece, I'll turn it over to the other Jim. Speaker 300:21:21Hey, Matt. So the sales assumptions for the second half of the year are unchanged and we've left Largely left August September unchanged as well. We did increase the store sales a little bit and decreased e commerce sales a little bit just based off we've been seeing in the business over the last 4 weeks. So August September are planned of minus 4% in stores And e commerce for August looks similar to July with September improving to negative single digits. And then just as a reminder, kind of recapping from the last call, we were really using the sales volume from February, March April and projecting the sales for the balance of the year using historical weekly sales curves. Speaker 300:22:08And when we were We're contemplating the guide for this quarter. We took a similar approach looking at, again, the most recent 4 weeks For the balance of this quarter and also looked at it at varying time periods and we got to a similar spot regardless of which of those time periods we used. Speaker 600:22:29Okay. That's great color. And then maybe just a follow-up on new stores that you cited. So can you touch on Productivity that you're seeing from some of your newer store builds, maybe across regions. And just could you elaborate on any key structural changes that you've made to the business That support now the higher mid teen store growth? Speaker 200:22:50Sure. The new store productivity is in line with The $3,500,000 new store sales that we've been calling out recently. And Matt, as you fully recognize that is Nearly double what we originally had thought in our original long term algorithm. In terms of sort of the infrastructure changes, we do tend to run pretty lean. We have added 1 real estate deal maker that sits on the East Coast to help develop that part of the country. Speaker 200:23:30We continue to use an extensive broker network. We've added a couple of project managers, of course. And then within the field organization, we have some a few more people working in visual merchandising that help with the in store setup, etcetera. And I think maybe even more than We have a really solid onboarding and training program for new store managers and new teams within a new store. As soon as it became apparent that we weren't always going to be able to transfer an assistant manager to promote them to be a store manager to another part of the country, We really relied on the HR team and the store ops team to figure out a way to bring in external talent and sort of teach them the Boot Barn methods and the Boot Barn culture and that has worked extremely well. Speaker 200:24:38We continue to feel Very optimistic about our new store openings, their performance, our pipeline, Our top side target of at least 900, and we'll just continue to kind of stamp out what is proven to be a Speaker 600:25:00It's really helpful color. Best of luck. Speaker 200:25:04Thanks, Matt. Operator00:25:06Our next question is from Steven Zaccone with Citi. Please proceed. Speaker 700:25:11Great. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to follow-up about your commentary regarding some volatility in the comps by week over the last 2 months. How much of that is just weather? Speaker 700:25:24We know it's been hot in the South, so I'm curious for your perspective on that. And I guess, has there been anything changing from a consumer purchase activity, whether it's Potential trade down or anything of that nature would be helpful. Speaker 200:25:40Steve, I would Sumit that it's just been difficult to pin it down to a particular external factor. We've had extremely hot weather as you pointed out that didn't necessarily always correlate to tougher business. We've had some great concerts come into town in some parts of the country that have spiked business. Conversely, we've anniversary big concerts in the LY period that have brought that business down. So we felt it was important to call out because we do feel good about the present tone of the business, but it has It's been a word that's been used by other public companies reporting recently is choppy. Speaker 200:26:34It's been a little choppy. And when we were trying to lay out guidance for the Q2, we wanted to just kind of take note of the fact that June July were great, the last week in July wasn't so great. So let's just kind of build all of that or hope to build That uncertainty into the guide for the balance of the quarter and for that matter for the year. Speaker 700:27:01Okay. Appreciate that detail. Then a question for Jim Watkins. Just on the gross margin outlook, It doesn't sound like much has changed, but I noticed in the Q2, I guess freight still expected to be flat year over year. So it sounds like that freight Benefit is largely going to be back half weighted. Speaker 700:27:19Is that fair? Speaker 300:27:22That's right. Yes. The Freight, And again, this is consistent with what we were seeing last quarter when we reported the first half of this year would be kind of flat. And then We'd really see that benefit pick up as we get into Q3 and Q4, and pretty significantly to get us to 100 basis points of a tailwind on the full year. Speaker 200:27:47Okay. Thanks very much. Speaker 300:27:50Thanks, Steve. Operator00:27:52Our next question is from Max Relecco with TD Cowen. Please proceed. Speaker 800:28:00Hi, this is Bradley Jamieson on for Max. So first, sticking with gross margin, Jim Watkins, can you speak to where your markdown percentage of goods is today compared to pre pandemic? And then how do you Expect that to trend ahead. Is this sort of a more normalized state now or could they fluctuate higher or lower ahead? Speaker 300:28:22Yes, great question. The markdown percentage of sales is very much in line with where it was pre pandemic. And again, the last couple of years, we saw historically low markdown percentage, but it's back to where We've seen it historically over the years pre pandemic, and we expect that to stay in a similar place as we move throughout the year and going forward. Speaker 800:28:49Great. And then Jim Conroy, your footwear mix over the past few years has Clients of 47% in the last fiscal year from 52% to 53% in a few years prior to the pandemic. What do you attribute that decline to? And what do you think the implications of that mix shift could be? And do you think footwear will continue to trend lower over time? Speaker 800:29:11Thanks guys. Speaker 200:29:14Sure. Great question. I guess I tend to be more glass is half full. It's I would view it more as because it's a percent to 100, we've had some businesses, most notably Ladies Apparel, Grow considerably. And while Ladies Apparel has been under pressure recently, we had a year plus Where that business grew roughly 100%. Speaker 200:29:43And of course, when one category grows so much, it just Pushes the share of the remaining businesses that need to add to 100 down a little bit. I think we'll see ebbs and flows over the next few years. I don't think this is a Ongoing trend one way or the other that 5 years from now footwear will be 40%. 5 years from now, we'll probably roughly fifty-fifty again on either side of fifty-fifty. In terms of margin There's almost nothing to read into that. Speaker 200:30:22I mean, the margins across the businesses are pretty similar between footwear and apparel. There are some less meaningful differences once you get further into the merchandise hierarchy. But if you're just looking at the split between footwear and apparel, it doesn't really change the margin profile of the business. I think I've already given you one or 2 more sentences on that more anecdotally. As we have broadened The definition of what Boot Barn means, looking a little bit outside of the core work in Western customers and reaching out to customers that might be tangentially interested in a brand like Boot Barn, I think it's an easier first Purchase for them to enter the brand with apparel and then over time they may invest more into the higher ticket categories like footwear. Speaker 800:31:27Great. Thanks, guys. Best of luck. Speaker 200:31:30Thanks, Brian. Thank you. Operator00:31:32Our next question is from Jason Haas with Bank of America. Please proceed. Speaker 700:31:38Hey, good afternoon and thanks for taking my questions. So I wanted to follow-up on the e commerce business. I was just curious if you could provide a little bit more color on what is going on with the Sheplers business. It sounds like that's been the biggest drag at least for a couple of quarters now. So just curious why that business has been softer? Speaker 700:31:56And I know the compares will start to get easier, it will start to lap this, but I'm just curious what you're doing, if anything, to try to lessen those declines? Speaker 200:32:06Sure. Great question. The Sheplers business has two dimensions that have challenged their top line, both traffic and conversion have come down. So we are trying to Work on anything we can internally to stem the tide on conversion for sure, is there something about the site, the setup, etcetera. From a traffic perspective, about half of the traffic to Sheplers So and we have a very algorithmic view of how we go out And drive top of funnel traffic to our sites, which is we hold ourselves to a profitable return on ad Spend metric. Speaker 200:33:06So once we lock in that return on ad spend, if traffic is down, while we Could spend more and improve traffic, it would be EBIT eroding. So we just don't do it. I mean, we We really look at the bottom line contribution. And if the next customer is going to be an unprofitable purchase, we won't go after them. So we are certainly looking to try to find ways to improve that business. Speaker 200:33:33I think the other dimension, of course, is billboard.com has 360 plus billboards around the country. We think that business will grow over time. There are other players that play in the e commerce business that are always taking share whether they're new entrants for vendors, etcetera. But when we look at the full portfolio of the company with while we're an omnichannel business, we clearly prioritize the 90% of the sales that come through the stores and that strategy has worked for us. And as we start to now see e commerce traffic More difficult to get for us and for others. Speaker 200:34:21Yes, I think when I look at the strategy over the last several years, while Somewhat unconventional is starting to pay off for us that people are now coming back to stores, digital native brands starting to open stores and we've got a 5 year head start on all of them. Speaker 700:34:41That's great. Thank you. And then as a follow-up, you mentioned concerts In response to an earlier comment on some of the volatility, we're continuing to get questions about this Taylor Swift tour. I don't know if that's what you're referring to or other ones, Yes, maybe you could help clarify that. Thank you. Speaker 400:34:57Sure. While she is Speaker 200:35:00an amazing performer, we actually don't See massive swings in our business from Taylor Swift. For the sake of everybody out there who will now freak out when one of these Artist comes to town or leaves town. The names that drive our business for the most part are George Strait, Garth Brooks, Morgan Wallen sort of the more traditional Western artists. And so Morgan Walling was in Phoenix a few weeks ago. We saw the Phoenix business spike tremendously. Speaker 200:35:40We're cycling a Garth Brooks concert in the last year period in Houston, I think this upcoming week. So we can look at that volatility week to week and try to normalize it for ourselves over the period of months And certainly over the year and we called this out in the past that the overall concert events Business is a low single digit piece of our business. It's just in a quarter or in a month or in a market, If you shrink the denominator enough, it becomes impactful. Speaker 700:36:18Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:36:21Of course. Operator00:36:23Our next question is from Jonathan Komp with Baird. Please proceed. Speaker 500:36:29Yes. Hi, good afternoon, Jim. I want to ask, When you look back at March April, just what do you make of the comp softness that you saw And then the recovery from those lows. And could you just share a little bit more? I believe your full year guidance was based on Yes, those volumes back then and it sounds like you haven't changed your second half guidance. Speaker 500:36:57So just how should we think about that 2nd half and how you've contemplated it and kind of the degree of conservatism, if you will? Speaker 300:37:09Yes. So starting with the question around What we're seeing for the guidance for the balance of the year, those from a pure comp perspective, those months for our softer months of the year. And we've got a slide in the deck on Page 10 that kind of goes through those store comps by month. And so as we've looked at the back half of the year and the more recent business, there is Probably a little bit of conservatism embedded in the sales trends for the back half of the year. But again, given the volatility that we've seen over last few months. Speaker 300:37:51And again, it's kind of depicted there on Slide 10. Leaving the back half of the year where it is, at least for right now, Made a lot of sense. And again, we did take different cuts, as I mentioned earlier, looking at the most recent 13 weeks and the most recent 26 weeks and the most Recent 4 weeks and at least getting through Q2, leaving that guidance where it was made some sense. And again, the back half of the year, Probably a little bit of conservatism in there, but leaving it where it was, it seemed like a good approach. Speaker 500:38:31And just to follow-up, did you have any sort of diagnostic looking back at March April, maybe what happened and You have more insight on what changed and turned pretty quickly there? Speaker 300:38:46No, I don't know that we have any one thing that we can point to. I know there was a lot of noise in the market around whether there were tax refunds or weather or heavy rain or coming out of heavy rain We're just going up against the prior years where we had a lot of noise around the onset of COVID and then Omicron and tax stimulus and child tax credits and volatility back there. So maybe there's something in the Yes, 2 year, 3 year or 4 year ago comp that was creating a little bit of noise, particularly as March April is where We saw that in the prior years. Speaker 500:39:30That makes sense. And then Jim, if I can follow-up on SG and A, it looks like This year, obviously, you've maintained a healthy pace of investment and initiatives plus cost to support the growing store base. As we look forward on SG G and A, how should we think about the growth rate and the level of comps and really time line to get back to showing leverage on SG and A overall? Speaker 300:39:56Yes. I think it's a great question. We talked about leverage points on the last call around SG and A being around a 2.5% comp. And so again, we'll Speaker 200:40:09We'll have to get Speaker 300:40:09through this year and look into fiscal 2025 and what our sales guidance is, but if we've returned to positive Comp growth then to the tune of that 2.5%, then I think that's something where we can get some leverage. We have seen some pressure over the last several Yours just in wage rate and some of the inflationary costs around supplies and insurance and utilities and that sort of thing. And so also as inflationary pressures subside, that's something that would help around the SG and A 1. Speaker 500:40:48Perfect. That's really helpful. Best of luck. Thanks. Speaker 200:40:52Thanks, John. Thanks, John. Operator00:40:54Our next question is from Dylan Carden with William Blair. Please proceed. Speaker 900:41:00Thank you. Just curious, the new distribution capacity that you've added for private label out of Kansas City, what level of business can that support Even sort of broadly, and how you're kind of thinking of that business, it's still growing sort of higher levels than I I think we'd even thought a couple of years ago. Speaker 200:41:21Yes, sure. Well, absolutely, it has been. The way we have modeled it is It should take care of our needs if we stay on a 15% store growth trajectory And 300 basis points of exclusive brand penetration increase each year. We probably have about 6 or 7 more years of capacity before we'd have to add An additional facility, which would likely be on the East Coast. Speaker 900:42:00Got you. And The online guidance, I'm just trying to understand it and you've kind of been asked a couple of times here about sort of the level of conservatism, but I guess part of that business is also related to what you're seeing in the brand channel, the owned brand channel or your sort of partner brand channel. Can you just help us understand the inflection? I get that it's easier comparisons, but not necessarily on a stack basis. Does part of it have to do with Sort of the behavior of some of your partners and I guess maybe what are you seeing there as you look to the back half? Speaker 200:42:36Sure. I think there are a couple if you're talking about our vendor partners, yes, I think there are vendors that in Certain instances are encroaching on our digital business. They are, of course, Seeking out the higher margins, I think, yes, from going direct to consumer. But That's kind of always been in our DNA, right, or at least for the last few years. I'm not sure there's been a step up, maybe other than Perhaps an increase in their digital marketing spend. Speaker 200:43:20I think so I think there is probably some competitive pressure there. I also I just had a gut feel when you think about just the channel split, it does and there's other examples of this where The store's business for some retailers is starting to come back where e commerce is under pressure. And this morning, Steve Madden reported a negative decline in their direct to consumer e commerce business, which Yes, they're a great company and a great brand and theoretically could be getting ongoing growth on e commerce. So I can't really put a finger on it specifically, but it could be some competitive pressure, it could be the numbers we're up against, it could be the fact that we won't chase the business with more ad spend because It's just EBIT dilutive for us. But we're going to continue to try to improve the business sort of operationally, Change the merchandising on the site as many different ways as we can and look for other novel ways to grow either traffic or conversion. Speaker 300:44:29And Dylan, just as far as the guidance goes, similar to what we talked about with the stores, we did look at The weekly sales volume of the e commerce sites and that business and how that builds throughout the year, week over week and month over month. And so as we updated the guide for the rest of this quarter, we were looking at those weekly sales volumes in the build there. And so, and its relation as a percentage of sales on the year and how it's seasonally impacted. And so that gives us the confidence To put that e commerce guide there and to leave the back half of the year where we had it. Speaker 900:45:10And that again, the back half is really just lapping the promotional activity from the brand partners as they sort of re flush their own inventory balances, right? Speaker 300:45:21Yes. And there's a little bit of that into in Q2. Again, if you look at the chart on Page Page 14, which it sounds like you're looking at, yes, you'll see some of that as we get into September at the end of this quarter, and that's where we We have talked about end of Q2 or early Q3 that business returning to positive. Speaker 900:45:45Awesome. Thanks a lot guys. Thanks, Speaker 200:45:48Don. Thanks, Don. Operator00:45:50Our next question is from Janine Stichter with BTIG. Please proceed. Speaker 1000:45:56Hi, everyone, and congrats on the momentum. I want to ask a little bit about The private label business, it's growing really nicely. It sounds like better than you expected. And maybe elaborate a bit more on what's working there. And then it looks like we'll be at close to 40% penetration by the end of the year, I think 38%. Speaker 1000:46:13So would love some updated thoughts on what the ceiling is for that business? How big could it ultimately become? Thanks. Speaker 200:46:22Sure. We've seen, I think, broad based success there. Our biggest brands, Cody James and Cheyenne, continue to gain ground. Cody James is now the biggest brand in the company, which is remarkable for exclusive brands for one of our exclusive brands that doesn't compete in every single category. It's only a men's brand. Speaker 200:46:49We've seen some really terrific growth from Idyllwind. That brand only started 5 years ago and that partnership continues to be incredibly strong and that business is just Growing very, very solidly. And then our new brands, right? We've had some new brands just Come out of the gate extremely quickly, others maybe a little slower, but we haven't had any new brand that has just been a complete dog. And that's all sort of added business and adding to our penetration. Speaker 200:47:27In terms of our top side target, We will always be a house of brands. We know that there are that our customer is going to want to always find Certainly, the big iconic national brands in our space, they want to be able to find those in our store. But I don't see any reason why we can't continue to grow 3 points a year for the next 5 years or so and we'll get to 50% or 55% over time. It's just What we learned, I think, is the consumer trusts us as the authoritative source in the So what we put on the shelf, how we assert the store, we've built the credibility that we're The curator of the assortment and as a customer comes in, what we believe in and what we've bought and Put on the shelf. They're going to gravitate towards. Speaker 200:48:35It also, as you well know, It provides a very attractive margin profile, where 3rd party brands Typically can't compete. We have had instances though where 3rd party brands Have stepped up and improved their IMU and we've Sort of really invested in their product and their assortment and they've gotten some really, really nice outsized growth. So it's To some degree, it will depend on the reactions from the vendor partners as to how they want to partner with us. But yes, regardless for the big brands out there, they'll always have a home in our store and in our hearts. Thanks, Jim. Speaker 200:49:31Jim putting his hand over his heart. Speaker 1000:49:35No, that's helpful. And I guess I would be curious to know if you had any Perspective or maybe survey work you've done just on how your consumers view your exclusive brands, do they view them as national brands? Are they aware of their Boot Barn brands? Speaker 200:49:47It's a great question. It's a mixed bag. We track this isn't specifically answering your question because I don't think we've done That research, head on. It's a good suggestion, perhaps we should. But we do track, social media and Reddit posts for And because we're trying to get unfettered customer feedback And if you were to pour through that, you would see that Sometimes they're complaining, sometimes they're quite happy and sometimes they know it's Speaker 300:50:27a Boot Barn brand and Speaker 200:50:27sometimes they have no idea. So I think I do think it's a mixed bag. I think the bigger more legacy brands, Cody James and Cheyenne Have built more independence in their name and aren't as Anchored to the store brand, I would probably put Idyllwind in that same camp. I mean Miranda Lambert Is a great advocate for us and for the Idyllwind brand. And then the others, they probably have some Indication that they're store brands. Speaker 200:51:08One more sentence and then I'll pause. We do position them just as regular brands, right? They're priced in line with national brands. Every bit is good quality. We try not to promote them in any higher frequency than other brands. Speaker 200:51:24So they feel they kind of look and feel and act like a national brand. Speaker 1000:51:33Perfect. Thanks so much. Operator00:51:37Our next question is from Cory Tarlow with Jefferies. Please proceed. Speaker 1100:51:44Great. Thanks for taking my question. I'm curious how you're thinking about pricing throughout the rest of this year. Obviously, Inflation has receded some and it felt like for quite some time inventory was a really significant topic of conversation. But now it seems like inventories are well in control. Speaker 1100:52:05So could you maybe also talk a little bit about your expectation for Inventory throughout the rest of the year. Speaker 200:52:14Sure. On the pricing piece, We did have a reset over the last 24 months where there was some inflationary pressure across the entire supply chain. National Brands are brands, inbound freight, etcetera. And while we tried to hold our pricing as much as we could, Inevitably, we had to push some of that through to retail pricing. And if you do all the arithmetic on our transactions and our comp, You'd recognize that we've and we called this out that our AURs have gone up. Speaker 200:52:49I think where we stand now, There's no obvious places where we'll be raising retails. We have had a couple of vendors lower their wholesale cost to us and we've lowered The retail price in the store maintaining that same markup percent and candidly the strategy has worked with They've seen a higher velocity at a slightly lower price point. So I think we have somewhat Reached a more stable equilibrium where there's not going to be a gyration in pricing Up or down in a meaningful way. Yes. We're back Speaker 300:53:38to where we're seeing just the regular price increases that we would And then Corey, as far as your question around inventory, where we see that going, we're really pleased To see, that number come down just a little bit, dollars 23,000,000 down from where we were 3 months ago, despite the addition of the new stores during the quarter and the continued growth in exclusive brands. So The team is doing a really nice job of managing through the inventory and making sure we've got the right inventory to support the sales level. So while we're not guiding inventory through the balance of the year, we're happy with where that is and how that's being managed. And I think A lot of that too is with the supply chain being more fixed than it was the last couple of years. We're able to Get the product more in line with when we want it and where we want it. Speaker 1100:54:39Great. Thank you very much. And then just another question on the men's business. It sounds like you have some pretty Decent momentum there. Are there any specific callouts within the men's business that you would say are really driving momentum there? Speaker 200:55:00It's been pretty broad based. We've seen maybe outsized growth in within the boots category in exotic skin boots, which is the notable piece of that is that's our higher Price points and frankly, the highest price points in the store. So with a lot of discussion around our people trading down, etcetera, that hasn't Within men's apparel, Speaker 1200:55:35the stronger Speaker 200:55:38at the highest level, we Split men's apparel into denim and non denim and the denim business has been better than the non denim business. I think those are the kind of the 2 big call outs. Speaker 1100:55:54Great. Very helpful. Thank you very much and best of luck. Speaker 200:55:58Thank you. Thanks. Operator00:56:01Our next question is from Jay Sole with UBS. Please proceed. Speaker 1300:56:07Great. Thank you so much. I just wanted to follow-up on some of the commentary on the new stores. Is it possible to talk about the new some of the new stores and some of the markets where People don't traditionally think of Boot Barn from, I guess, from the investor side, like Manchester, Connecticut is a store that opened recently. Can you talk about a store like that, not to get too specific, Compared to like Texas, Southwest, California, where traditionally most people think the stores were, can you just talk about how the stores are doing in some of the newer markets? Speaker 200:56:34Sure. Sure. The quick answer is they're doing quite well. When we open a new store In Texas or California, particularly if there's not a store nearby, those two States notably stand out. Those 2 states are our highest average unit volumes for a retail store. Speaker 200:56:59But if you exclude those 2 and you say, let's just look at the rest of the country, a new store in Connecticut or in outside of Philadelphia or Niagara Falls or outside of Albany looks a lot like a new store in most of the rest of the country. They sell Western oriented product in roughly the same proportion. They sell men's cowboy boots and ladies cowboy boots and men's cowboy hats. We open them with our traditional brand footprint. We don't contort The look and feel of the store or the product assortment, and strategically, what that does for us It emboldens us to just continue to roll out the concept because we haven't had to make Significant changes to the model and I don't want to minimize all the hard work that happens at the product by product level by the merchants and the merchandise planners and the allocation team, because we do tweak a little bit, but most of the big brands are in all the stores. Speaker 200:58:13The major categories in terms of percent of total are roughly in line with the rest of the country. And the tweaks that we're making are sort of below The skin a little bit. Speaker 1300:58:29Got it. Jim, that's interesting. If I can just follow-up on one more, just because you talked a lot about Success of brands like Cody James and Cheyenne and Ottawind. And then the question is, how much when you see the success, do you think bigger In terms of like turning these brands into more than just Boot Barn brands, like maybe creating their own websites, creating like Pinnacle product, maybe trying to place them Super premium boutiques or things like that and really building them out in their own right to sort of enhance what they are and then buy in turn enhance what Boot Barn is doing. Speaker 200:58:59It is an ongoing dialogue and perhaps one that we will kind of pull on that string a bit more in the future. We have done some things, right? We now have rodeo athletes that wear our exclusive brands Matt Bray and up and coming a pretty established Saddle Brock rider. Then Brocker Steiner wears RANG 45, one of our newer And so Speaker 100:59:25we have done a bit Speaker 200:59:26of that, and we do treat them as at least quasi brands. But Perhaps over time, we will put them even further on a pedestal and really invest more to build that brand equity further than just the positioning and the inventory in the stores. Speaker 1300:59:52Got it. Okay. Thank you so much. Operator00:59:56Our next question is from Sam Poser with Williams Trading. Please proceed. Speaker 1401:00:03Well, thank you for taking my questions. I have A couple here. One, as you grow the exclusive brand business and you mentioned you're committed Having National Brands as well. How is your assortment changing? I mean, sort of what gets squeezed out, Because you can't get everything into the store all the time. Speaker 1401:00:31So as that penetration grows, how do you manage sort of And what falls to the side? Speaker 201:00:39Sure. Great question. Typically what happens is the 3rd or 4th Player in a particular product category gets either minimized or eliminated And the exclusive brand takes that spot. And then because you're a merchant at heart, Sam, The exclusive brands then earn their keep, right? We do look at sales to stock ratios for exclusive brands versus third party brands. Speaker 201:01:10They have Turn roughly in line or in line with the rest of the store or we'll make some changes. But if you think of the bigger, most iconic names in Our arena, whether that's ORC Brands or Western Brands, we tend to not Squeeze them out. We want people to we want customers to come to the Because we have the brands they'd expect us to have, but the smaller brands, the ones that do less marketing, the ones that are less well known Tend to seed market share to the exclusive brands. Speaker 1401:01:57Thank you. And then secondly, On the talk about e commerce, rather than talk about the revenue, what percent of your sales Like does the consumer touch your mobile app, touch your website, and then maybe comes to the store? I mean, Is your digital presence a traffic driver or doing more than just More than what the comps than the sales trend may actually show. Speaker 201:02:33Yes, absolutely. Of course. And the digital team here does an awful lot to help drive store traffic, so which is why we built the app, which is why we continue to invest in mobile And that omnichannel view, even if they're just buying in the stores and not online, I certainly believe that they many shopping journeys start digitally and particularly on a handheld. Speaker 1401:03:10And do you have a is there a measurement you have of that? Or Are you pulling customers? How did you hear about us when they come in or sign up for the sign up for your membership and so on? Speaker 201:03:24I don't have a great answer for that. Perhaps that's something we'll add to our next round of customer research though. Speaker 1401:03:34And then, I mean, this was asked at the beginning of the call. I'm going to ask it one more time or if I had a follow-up. You came in Significantly better than what you anticipated in the prior guidance. And so one, can you is there anything you guys That you could attribute to making that happen. And secondly, within the there appears to me to be a change in the way You're guiding you're doing a lot more versus, let's say, a year or 2 ago, you're guiding the upcoming quarters and the balance of the year. Speaker 1401:04:11If there has been a change in the way you approach giving guidance, can you give us some color on that, please? Speaker 301:04:20I'll start with that second question, Sam. I think the way we're providing guidance, I think we're explaining it Maybe a little bit more around the weekly sales trend that we're seeing and how that plays out for the rest of the year. Historically, again, going back to pre COVID, because we did stop guiding for a couple of years During COVID and after, the weekly sales trend or the monthly sales trend and what percent of the year that made up was, We use that methodology and what's different to now is that lined up more with the Prior year comp looking at the 1 year comp and what we're up against and whether it's easier comps or harder comps, our 2 year stack. And I think with some of the variability that we saw coming out of COVID and is the looking at a 1 year or a 2 year STACK or a 2 year comp to provide guidance fell apart a little bit and we saw that on display last year with our guidance. We've leaned more into the more scientific approach of looking at The build during the year and how that compares to historical penetrations each month as a percent of the year or whatever it is. Speaker 301:05:48Thank you. Speaker 201:05:51Thanks, Sam. Operator01:05:52Our next question is from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed. Speaker 401:06:00Thanks and congrats on the strong results. I wanted to ask another question Speaker 201:06:05on the exclusive brands. Speaker 401:06:05And just as we Brands. And just as we flash back to 5 years ago, when your penetration was A little less than 20%, and now it's going to be roughly double that. You expected, I think, at the time, kind of 200 basis points to 300 basis points of exclusive brand penetration, but you've gotten roughly double that really with the exception of the kind of COVID 2020 calendar year. I wanted to just as we've gone from like a 10,000 square foot Store to 12,000 Square Foot Store. How much of the change is really to the dedicated floor space to exclusives. Speaker 401:06:50So is that kind of been in lockstep or are we really seeing just velocities of exclusives really outpacing a lot of these other national brands. Speaker 201:07:03It's a great Question and a very good hypothesis. I would tell you that the increase in the size of the store and the increase in the penetration of And the integration of exclusive brands, while correlated, I don't think it's causal. We got to those two decisions through completely different Logic flows, if you will. On the exclusive brand penetration, One of the things that happened coming out of COVID was Widespread news around how difficult supply chains were, our 3rd party vendors honestly did everything that they could to try to help Get their product to us, but our business was taking off, that year after COVID in a pretty meaningful way. And even the best vendors that we have despite their best efforts were shipping us short And the one supply chain that we got 100% of what we ordered and could control it even better was our exclusive brands. Speaker 201:08:15So it set up an experiment that we didn't think we were doing, which was As sales take off and we have to put more exclusive brand product into a store, what will happen? And The answer came back a resounding. Well, consumers will respond to those brands in most, if Not all cases, in many cases. And I think that helped build our confidence. So we came out of a very difficult Time, a terrible pandemic, a challenging supply chain, but we did learn some really valuable lessons that The Boot Barn brand may be first, and then our Azusa brands have more strength and Brand equity and consumer awareness and recognition than we had originally thought. Speaker 201:09:12And then we've upgraded the exclusive brand team. We've added some great new designers there. We have a relatively new leader there, has been there for a couple of years now. Yes. I think we work really well between the buying organization and the design organization and throw stores in there. Speaker 201:09:35So I think it's been an Ongoing initiative, to get that part of the business going. In terms of the store size, the store size increased just because sales Started to increase and we started to realize that it may have been a Chicken and egg. As we built bigger stores, we had more sales or had we as we had more sales, we needed a bigger store. So we just We made a decision one day to increase the size of the store and also increase The opening inventory levels of a store and we're actually trying to track what store was the first to do it. We think it was Erie, Pennsylvania store, but it was around that time about two and a half years ago where we Decided to play more offense with the new store, larger store, more inventory and we started to see the average volumes of New stores come in higher, so we just continue with that strategy. Speaker 201:10:41But it was separate and distinct really from The investment in inventory and our exclusive brands. Speaker 401:10:51Thanks. That's a great point. I guess So I the other question was just Really quick here from a kind of markdown competitor promotion standpoint, Any noticeable changes that you've seen within the industry? Speaker 201:11:14Not really. I mean, some on the margin. Some of our Competitors are running a typical promotion that they've run-in the past, but they're running it 1 week longer or starting it at a different time. As you well know though, most of the people that we compete against On a store by store basis, tend to have one store. And we don't really track what they do And we wouldn't change anything that we're doing based on what the market or the industry is doing. Speaker 201:11:50We have our plan. We're And if companies raise prices, lower prices, become more promotional, it's just it's not going to impact us. Speaker 401:12:01Great. Thanks for the color. Best wishes. Speaker 201:12:05Thank you. Operator01:12:07Our next question is from Mitch Kummetz with Seaport Research. Please proceed. Speaker 1501:12:13Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Just drill down a little bit more on ladies boots and apparel. So last quarter, you mentioned that ladies boots and apparel were down 11% and down 13%, And that was against more than an 80% 2 year stack. I believe, Jim, you said that Ladies Boots apparel improved like 7 points this quarter from last. Speaker 1501:12:38So can you just kind of maybe give us Those comps for the quarter and can you say what the 2 year compare was? Speaker 201:12:48Sure. The 7 point sequential improvement was boots and not apparel. The apparel business Between Q4 and Q1 was roughly in line. The Q1 comps Last year for those businesses were also quite strong. This is one of those crazy things where you have to start looking at year after year after year, but both boots and apparel last year Q1 were 20 plus percent comps and in the prior year, Q1 were both over 100% comps and of course, they were cycling The April May of 2020, which was a COVID thing. Speaker 201:13:30So you can drive yourself mad, but they we always want all our businesses to grow, but And I've said this on prior calls. I think all of the merchants in the business are doing a really nice job of and we're very pleased with maximizing their business. Some of them are just up against monster numbers and others are up against very strong numbers. So We certainly love to see the businesses get sequentially better. We love to see the fact that ladies boots as an example in July was positive and that was Great thing to see. Speaker 201:14:06But more than anything, what's nice to see is sort of this Steady progression of a strengthening piece of that part of the business and not giving it all back, but that's been As you know, speaking with investors, that's been sort of a potential narrative out there as well, the average unit volume of store has gone up The ladies business has doubled and it's all going to be given back. And it's with each passing quarter, That eventuality seems more remote. Speaker 1501:14:41And then I know that looking at the multi year gets tricky, Just depending on all the noise over the last few years, but maybe just thinking about it on a year over year basis, does that when does the ladies business Yes, easier. Is it starting in 2Q or is it 3Q? Speaker 201:15:02In 3Q is Where we start to cycle easier Speaker 1501:15:07than later. Speaker 201:15:09Yes. Okay. Speaker 1501:15:10All right. Thanks. Good luck. Speaker 401:15:13Thanks Mitch. Operator01:15:14And our final question is from John Lawrence with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed. Speaker 1201:15:21Hi, guys. Congrats. Speaker 201:15:23Thank you, John. Thanks, John. Speaker 1201:15:27Yes. Jim Conroy, would you comment just a little bit, When you look at the store fleet and some of the older stores, obviously, neighborhoods change, Traffic patterns changed a little bit. Are there any of those older stores that either slated for Productivity improvements, paint expansion, to get a little and then if you do that, Do you get a little higher return on some of those stores if that construction or expansion takes place? Speaker 201:16:03Sure. Absolutely. Well, we have an ongoing program of There are really 3 different buckets. 1 is, in some cases, just full on relocation, so moving the store across town, making it bigger, putting it in The latest and growing part of a particular city or taking a store that's doing reasonably well, we still like And typically when we do that, we see A nice pickup in sales or maybe said differently, we tend to not do a full remodel unless we expect a nice pickup in sales. And then we have kind of a third tranche. Speaker 201:16:49We are if you look at the brand aesthetic for Boot Barn over the last 5 or so years. We've made a strategic decision to Make the brand more aspirational, to elevate the creative, to change the way we go to market From a marketing perspective, I mean, our Creative Director basically completely changed the brand trajectory and got away from price and promotion and went to sort of Americana Western legacy and heritage view of Boot Barn. And the stores need to kind of match that. So the new store design certainly does, but we did have some 20, 30 year old stores that needed to be upgraded. So we'll probably touch 25 stores this year and Pull out old carpeting and change lighting and change some fixtures. Speaker 201:17:47They won't necessarily get a full on remodel, But they'll get some capital investment. Perhaps we'll see a return on that. In some cases, we know we're doing it just to get the sort of Speaker 1201:18:05Great. And last thing for me is, when you look at that exclusive brand pipeline Going forward, I mean, you've done so much there over the last 5 or 6 years. Is that pipeline for new products still adjacencies and Different categories still just as strong? Speaker 201:18:24Yes. I think at some point, we'll probably see Growth in exclusive brands, but maybe not 5 or 6 points of growth. Maybe we'll come back to 250 or 300 basis points of Penetration growth in a year. You called it out well. Typically what happens is a brand launches And then sort of spreads within a store to include some new categories. Speaker 201:18:49So We found a new market in kind of Western style Sport jackets for men that have a Cody James brand in it now and that was in a business a few years ago. So they'll find different Subcategories or we'll take a brand and extend it into both sizes or extended sizes or wide sizes in boots and they'll get a little bit more penetration. So it's not always the launch of a brand new brand. Sometimes it's just Expanding the working ones, finding out what's working and doubling down and maybe cutting the losses on some of the stuff that isn't working as well. Speaker 1201:19:36Great. Thanks. Thanks for squeezing me in. Good luck. Speaker 201:19:40No problem. Thank you. Operator01:19:42We have reached the end of our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jim Conroy for closing comments. Speaker 201:19:50Well, thank you everyone for joining the call today, And we look forward to speaking with you on our 2nd quarter earnings call. Take care. Operator01:19:58Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for yourRead morePowered by