Vertiv Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 2, 2023

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Morning. My name is Lauren, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Vertiv's 2nd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. Please note that this call is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the program over to your host for today's conference call, Lynn Maxine, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you, Lauren. Good morning, and welcome to Vertiv's 2nd quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Vertiv's Executive Chairman, Dave Cote Chief Executive Officer, Giordano Albertazzi and Chief Financial Officer, David Fallon. Before we begin, I would like to point out that during the course of this call, we will make forward looking statements regarding future events, including the future financial and operating performance of Vertiv.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements are subject to material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results To differ materially from those in the forward looking statements, we refer you to the cautionary language included in today's earnings release, and you can learn more about these risks in our annual and quarterly reports and other filings made with the SEC. Any forward looking statements that we make today are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable as of this date. We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. During this call, we will also present both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Our GAAP results and GAAP to non GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings press release and in the investor slide deck found on our website at investors.

Speaker 1

Vertiv.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Executive Chairman, Dave Cote.

Speaker 2

Well, these last few quarters have been a lot more enjoyable to report. We had another strong quarter of performance at Vertiv, which positions us very well to achieve our significantly increased 2023 outlook. Adjusted free cash flow, adjusted operating profit, Sales and margins all performed very well and operational execution continues to improve. We've raised our full year guidance call. Because of our strong first half performance, we also have the very pleasant effect of a strengthening balance sheet.

Speaker 2

The data center end market continues to look very healthy and there is an incremental tailwind from AI coming. That tailwind should provide additional opportunities over many years for Vertiv because their technology will matter. A great market position, a great industry where we can differentiate with technology. These attributes are what attracted me to Vertiv over 4 years ago, and they are There's a lot of upside, not just in the market and our technology, but also just continuing to fix legacy process issues and building a high performance culture, Which didn't exist. Gio and his team are off to a great start and there is a lot of work left to be done.

Speaker 2

So with that, I'll turn the call over to Geo.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you very much, Dave. We saw the positive momentum continuing into 2nd quarter Across all key financial metrics. 2nd quarter sales were up 25% organically, led again by a 48% increase in Americas. We continue to see supply chain improvements and increased resiliency. We saw healthy market demand, which supported the shipment of substantial volume in the Americas region.

Speaker 3

Orders excluding FX were down just 3% from last year's Q2, better than anticipated. And book to bill remained at 1. Despite ongoing order normalization as well as difficult comparison, the market remains healthy. We have also seen an encouraging AI related activity, and I'll elaborate on this when we cover Slide 6. Our adjusted operating profit was $251,000,000 and we saw benefits from our increased volume as well as price cost.

Speaker 3

Our adjusted operating profit margin improved 8 60 basis points to 14.5% as we continue to strengthen operational execution. I am particularly pleased to report the strong adjusted free cash flow of $227,000,000 in 2nd quarter. We also continue to see the leverage AUP at $950,000,000 at the midpoint and adjusted free cash flow of $550,000,000 at the midpoint. We are executing our plan to deliver the full year 1 quarter at a time and our transformation continues. We are making meaningful steps forward in our operational execution.

Speaker 3

We are demonstrating clear traction and there is Tremendous value creation ahead. We're not relenting our focus on operational execution. That is what we intend to continue to demonstrate each and every quarter. So let's now turn to Page 4. A few changes on the market environment slide.

Speaker 3

First, we moved cloud hyperscale to green in EMEA. Globally, We have seen an acceleration in the cloud hyperscale and colocation market segment in the last 90 days, Substantiated by the large amount of incremental capacity that is being planned as well as by the amount of leasing capacity that was signed in the in this past quarter, gigabits of new capacity. Our pipelines have clearly strengthened. It is hard to delineate what is AI and what is not, but we know the industry is certainly getting ready for AI. And we have orders in our books and opportunities in our pipeline that are unequivocally for AI infrastructure.

Speaker 3

Conversations with cloud and colo players are now around making sure there is available capacity to support a healthy outlook, and we are in discussions with several large and relevant customers on what this commercial arrangement can look like, very encouraging. As we move to telecom, this area has further weakened in the last 90 days with some further We anticipate that telecom markets remain quiet for the balance of 2023. Not particularly worrisome. These patterns are not atypical for this market. We have left the APAC market yellow across the segments.

Speaker 3

The China market specifically experienced a slower than expected start to the year, Not just for us, but for most companies. In our current view, we are not anticipating much recovery in China markets in 2023, but there are some encouraging signs as we did see orders turn positive in Q2 and pipelines are healthy. No changes in view on enterprise SMB or commercial and industrial. Overall, I'm more encouraged today view for second half twenty twenty three and shape our thinking around 2024. Let's move to Slide 5.

Speaker 3

Orders performed better than anticipated, although down 3%. They are coming together Stronger than expected and they were 13% sequentially up from Q1. A book to bill ratio of 1 preserved a healthy backlog. We anticipate orders flat more or less in Q3 and turning positive in Q4. I know everyone is interested in what AI orders Looked like in the quarter.

Speaker 3

And candidly, that will be almost impossible to answer with precision. We have seen AI related orders, I would say, in the tens of 1,000,000 of dollars. Our customers are focused on AI retrofit rate infrastructure, and we see evidence of this in our pipelines. Many of our products today can be used for either regular density or high density applications. And we won't be able to report out a discrete AI number.

Speaker 3

For example, most AI reviewed today are still being air cooled, Perfectly served by the traditional Vertiv portfolio. Over time, a part of these loads will transition to liquid. And here too, we are uniquely positioned liquid to remove heat from the server and the rack, But removal of the heat doesn't stop outside the rack. You need to remove the heat from the data hole. And we have a portfolio of solutions to do As I say, we are seeing clear demand acceleration signals from the market, and we are having conversations with very relevant market players around securing capacity and not just over the next few quarters, but well into 2024 and beyond.

Speaker 3

Let us transition to supply chain. We see improving the environment, but there are two parts to this story. 1st, Supply chain continues to incrementally improve. No doubt lead times are gradually reducing and there is more certainty in supply. The second part is the self help part.

Speaker 3

We have been vocal about our multi sourcing programs. One of the most important architects of this ongoing supply chain resilience program. Paul Ryan is now a leader of global procurement. He is Not new to me, Vertiv, he has been with us over a decade and has more than 25 years of experience and a strong track record operational execution combined with very clear strategic vision. Supply chain resilience is key considering the demand waves that may be ahead.

Speaker 3

Let's now talk capacity. We have been investing in capacity for a few years, in a balanced approach across the globe. The focus is on utilizing and coordinating capacity globally. We have recently announced a new role in the organization, Executive Vice President, Manufacturing, Logistics and Operations and Our Excellence with Anders Cadbury leading the effort. Over the last 5 years, Anders led Vertiv's operations in Asia, then EMEA and finally Americas.

Speaker 3

In the Americas operations over the past year specifically, we have seen significant improvements. He is the right person to take the organization to the next level on process and operations improvement as well as company wide deployment of Vertiv operating system. Our ability to navigate strong periods of growth in a complex environment continues to improve. Let's talk about inflation. While inflation is trending a bit more favorably than anticipated, A couple of dynamics influence the second half of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3

First, metal prices were at lower levels in Q3 and Q4 of the last year. So As we lap that comparison, we're experiencing year on year inflation a bit higher in the second half. We also anticipate when the Chinese economy accelerates that increased demand could cause additional inflationary pressure on commodities. We have seen a favorable tailwind from price cost with good processes in place that better prepare us for volatility related to our input costs. Let's go to slide 6.

Speaker 3

We believe AI will Our overall TAM AI is a reinforcement of demand trend and AI workloads are incremental new applications. They aren't in general replacing other applications in our digital economy. We expect growth in both high density and general compute. This benefits all Vertiv Technologies. We believe liquid cooling is not a displacement risk and in fact is additive to growth For Vertiv, before liquid cooling, we would take the hit from it outside the rack to outside the data center building.

Speaker 3

With liquid cooling, it's additive. We reach out into the rack and get one step closer The infrastructure transition to AI high density environment will be complicated and likely involve hybrid approaches to technology deployment. It is very likely a data center will need both liquid and air cooling Orchestrated tightly together to optimize the data center environment. We do very well with that approach, With the widest portfolio of thermal technology available, deepest domain expertise on how to orchestrate these technologies using our advanced control systems and over 3,500 field service engineers across the world to support the deployment and maintenance of the infrastructure. We have the scale and the ability to increase capacity.

Speaker 3

And I hope and I believe you can sense my excitement. Much more to come on high density AI at our investor conference in November, But feel very well positioned for this opportunity. With that, over to David.

Speaker 4

Perfect. Thanks, Gio. Turning to Page 7. This slide summarizes our Q2 financial results. As you can see, strong financial performance quarter.

Speaker 4

Across the board, starting with our from last year, 9% of that was from pricing and 16% from volume, With most of that volume benefit in the Americas highlighting the continued supply chain and operational improvements in that region, which has been quarter and adjusted operating margin of 14.5% improved 8 60 basis points, Of which $610,000,000 was from higher variable contribution margin and 2.50 basis points was from fixed cost leverage. Adjusted operating profit was $61,000,000 higher than our prior guidance, dollars 45,000,000 from higher pricing, $25,000,000 from incremental volume and $15,000,000 from lower than expected inflation, With these tailwinds partially offset by headwinds from foreign exchange and investment in fixed costs, primarily from restructuring and incentive compensation. Higher than expected pricing was driven by higher volume, favorable regional mix and some conservatism for potential pricing headwinds that did not materialize. Inflation was not as bad as we expected as commodity costs, including metals declined from the end of the first quarter, likely influenced by a slower than expected rebound in the Chinese Economy. Next on this slide and very proudly, We generated $227,000,000 of adjusted free cash flow in the quarter, an impressive and SEC filings.

Speaker 4

$460,000,000 higher than last year's Q2. While there still is a lot of work to do to optimize working capital, Our Q2 is reflective of our focus on cash and indicative of the cash generation potential of this business when we do control working capital, which increased just $5,000,000 in the 2nd quarter despite a $213,000,000 increase in sales from the 1st quarter. Now the 2nd quarter number was aided by some favorable timing tailwinds, and we should not expect free cash flow to 130 percent of adjusted net income each quarter, but it shows we have made significant strides towards unlocking the cash generation potential quarter of this business while funding organic growth. Last on this slide, Net leverage declined to 3.1 times at the end of the quarter and is expected to be approximately 2.3 times By year end, well within our previously communicated target leverage range of 2 to 3 times. It was only a few months ago that we were being labeled by some and likely discounted from a multiple perspective as highly levered.

Speaker 4

We argued at the time that it was pursuant to a mechanical calculation and just a matter of timing. Well, I think we were proven correct as our year to date performance has now driven that mechanical calculation towards what we believe to be the practical reality. Turning to Page 8. This slide summarizes our 2nd quarter segment results. The Americas region continues to show strong year over year performance with organic net sales growth of 48%, strength of price cost, fixed cost leverage and notably improved operating results from E and I.

Speaker 4

APAC top line continues to be influenced by slower than expected recovery in China. Volume was relatively flat, so Our organic growth was driven by incremental pricing. Adjusted operating margin declined about 100 basis points from last year, And that was primarily driven by approximately $6,000,000 of restructuring costs in the quarter. We do anticipate sequential quarterly sales growth in APAC in the 3rd quarter, but we have reduced our full year projection from our prior guidance, now expecting full year low single digit growth. EMEA grew organically 9% in the 2nd quarter, Almost entirely driven by pricing.

Speaker 4

We expect 3rd quarter sales in EMEA to be down slightly from the 2nd quarter with a significant increase in the 4th quarter and full year growth expected to be in the upper single digits. EMEA continues to impress from an adjusted operating margin perspective, posting 26.6 percent for the 2nd quarter, 870 basis points higher than last year, with this increase primarily driven by price cost and fixed cost leverage. Finally, on this page, corporate costs were $21,000,000 higher than last year, driven by higher restructuring and incentive compensation costs and an incremental $5,000,000 loss on foreign exchange. Based on the current guidance, we anticipate these incremental costs at our corporate entity to flow through for the full year and we expect second half corporate costs to be consistent with the first half. Next, turning to Page 9.

Speaker 4

This slide summarizes our 3rd quarter guidance. As a reminder, we have quarter guidance looks largely consistent with our Q2 in absolute terms. We have included provision for sequential increases in both pricing and inflation in the 3rd quarter and sequential headwinds from foreign exchange including $15,000,000 on sales and 5,000,000 on adjusted operating profit. Moving to Slide 10, our full year guidance. We are raising our projected topline by $285,000,000 primarily driven by higher expected sales in the Americas, Partially offset by lower expected sales in APAC with EMEA consistent with prior guidance.

Speaker 4

We are raising our 2023 adjusted operating profit guidance by $150,000,000 $60,000,000 from the 2nd quarter beat and $90,000,000 in the second half. This increase translates into 170 basis point increase in our expected adjusted operating margin to 14%. And while we have not explicitly provided 4th quarter guidance, math suggests we exit the year at 15%, transitioning into 2024. And finally on this page, we are increasing our full year adjusted free cash quarter and demonstrates momentum not only with our drive for profitability, but also with our management of working capital. Before I hand it back over to Gio, let me front run some potential questions on our adjusted free cash flow guidance, which and $50,000,000 lower than our 2nd quarter number multiplied by 2.

Speaker 4

The primary driver of this variance is timing, timing for both CapEx and cash taxes, which are normally back half loaded and this year is no exception. These two items explain approximately $130,000,000 of the $150,000,000 variance. The remainder is driven by higher use of cash from trade working capital as we prepare for strong anticipated demand in 2024 And that being partially offset by higher projected EBITDA and lower cash interest. So with that said, I turn it back over to Gio.

Speaker 3

Well, thanks a lot. As Dave said earlier, great quarter, but still a lot to do. In February in our February call, I went through the focus areas for 2023, creating a high performance culture where ownership is clear and we hold ourselves accountable for the results, constant focus on things that matter and executing relentless focus on execution. At the halfway mark of 2023, we have made progress. Innovation and technology continue to be a key differentiator for Vertiv.

Speaker 3

And with our ongoing investment in this area, I'm very encouraged by our roadmaps for R and D and technology development. I believe you will see this Momentum building and differentiation further distinguish Vertiv as the partner of choice in critical infrastructure. I continue to travel around the globe, visiting customers, Vertiv locations and key industry players. I'm more excited today than I have been in the last 25 years with this great organization. I can feel the energy, the momentum building in our business, It is tangible.

Speaker 3

This traction is not easy to translate in words, but you are starting to see the transformation taking hold, deepening and becoming Vertiv's DNA. So the takeaways, strong first half supported by continuing improvements in operational execution, a healthy market, momentum continuing and in fact increasing with AI tailwinds. We are raising our guidance across all financial metrics and especially pleased to be raising our adjusted operating profit guidance to $950,000,000 at the midpoint. This indicates a healthy second half and a great foundation for 2024. An important reminder, Vertiv is the Investors Conference on November 29th The New York Stock Exchange.

Speaker 3

So I truly hope you can join us and make sure you mark that in your calendars. With that, Over to the operator.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Nigel Coe from Wolfe Research. Nigel, please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. So, with no remaining answers in the calendar, no problem with that. Great. So obviously, a lot to go through.

Speaker 5

One thing you mentioned, Gio, was The AIGPU retrofit opportunity and we don't often think of retrofit activity in the data center. So maybe just run through Sort of what you're seeing today and sort of how impactful do you think this could be for Vertiv? And maybe just talk about how important your service organization can be If we do start seeing material benefits.

Speaker 3

Yes. Two aspects to this, Nigel. Thank you for the question. There is certainly a kind of a non retrofit, new market, sector. And it's a place, this one where our service organization becomes absolutely critical in our ability To partner with customers everywhere in the world.

Speaker 3

Not all the players in specifically the liquid part of the thermal spectrum have this ability to reach out everywhere as we are, and we have demonstrated that And our numbers prove that as I was saying 35, 3500 service engineers globally. But the other is, We see it today and we talk with customers today and they say not only do we have to Think about liquid cooling, but the thing that we have to think about is a hybrid environment, probably an initial build That has more traditional server cooling. So there needs to be an ability to retrofit over time because sites will hybridize and be enabled that and then being there with our customers to execute on that retrofit Yes, again, fundamental. And that retrofit is not just the rack itself or the road, but is the ability to interconnect and balance it with the rest of the existing thermal system. But think about the stock of data center that exists in the industry today.

Speaker 3

It's really hard to believe That part will not be hybrid in and of itself. And that's what we hear. That's what we hear today. Today, we hear people saying, hey, we are already today sometimes having AI enabling high density racks and we air cool them. But that sounds easier said than done.

Speaker 3

Then you have to balance, Of course, the cooling in the hall. But at the same time, that very same retrofit can be a liquid retrofit eventually. And again, the same problem exists, even more complicated, if you will, than with an infrastructure that was thought for future retrofit. Hope I answered. Could be very long, I will avoid.

Speaker 5

Yes, yes, a lot there. I mean, it sounds like it could be quite a material opportunity.

Speaker 3

We don't have exactly a figure on that.

Speaker 5

Okay. No, no, we'll come back to that. On the pricing, so I think it's 9% in the quarter, I think 7% in the 3rd quarter. Maybe, David, what's in your Q4 for pricing? And then what would be a reasonable outlook for pricing in 2024?

Speaker 5

I'm assuming we're going to be down to a more sort of normal range, but I'm just curious if you're still continuing to push price real time.

Speaker 4

Yes. From a quarterly cadence perspective, pricing 9% first quarter 7% in the 3rd quarter and 5% in the 4th. So full year 4 20, it's up about $120,000,000 from our prior guidance and it's quarter. Probably too early at this point to comment on 2024 pricing, but we should have a nice tailwind heading into next year.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you very

Operator

much. Thank you. Our next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz from Citigroup. Andy, please go ahead. Hey, good morning, everyone.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 6

Dio, you said it's difficult to discern AI versus non AI in your markets. But as you said, your pipeline of It seems to have increased in the last 90 days and you turned EMEA Cloud Hyperscale to green. So is there a way to quantify how much bigger your pipeline is that is feeding into that expectation of flat bookings in Q3 and up modestly in Q4. And then just stepping back, would you say AI contribution and orders is coming earlier than you expected in 2023.

Speaker 3

Well, the acceleration of pipeline that I referred to in my when we were going through the slide is specific To industry sorry, to region and customer really. So It varies, but acceleration it is. How big? It is, Again, part of a wave of demand, as I explained, this is additional demand, and it is additional Demand that will probably drive also the more traditional type of loads and compute further up. Specifically, the comment about EMEA is that we start to see this effect hit EMEA as well.

Speaker 3

And anyway, we wanted to send a message that we see acceleration on core or cloud across the board Because of AI, how big exactly? Again, it's premature to say. The market is moving. I would say it's hard to distinguish what is AI and what is not, but we know that some technologies are specifically for high sector, specifically for GPU, and that is a little bit earlier to track. But we know that there are a lot of traditional technologies, A lot of traditional technologies that are there to enable AI as well.

Speaker 3

And that's true for the power part of our portfolio and for the thermal part of our portfolio.

Speaker 6

I'll stick to the one question. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 3

SEC. Thanks, Andy.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Amit Darianni from Evercore. Amit, please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a nice print. Gio, I was hoping you could Talk a little bit more about when it comes to cooling AI clusters, liquid cooling clearly becomes a more important thing, especially in higher densities. But There seems to be multiple ways that you can use liquid cooling directed chip. It's something you folks do, but I think there's immersion in other forms of it. So from your perspective, do you think Vertiv's strategy would be to have a broader liquid cooling solution across different formats?

Speaker 7

Or would you want to focus more on direct to chip? And then as it relates to these AI clusters, can you just touch on what do you think your economics look like versus the corporate average?

Speaker 3

So I want to reiterate a message that I had when I was going through the slides Yes. When we talk about liquid cooling here, we really talk about how we extract heat From the heat generation point, I. E, the chip to outside the server, outside The rack and into the data hole in a way or another. And this is the novelty. This is the new part.

Speaker 3

As I was saying, actually, there are 3 ways to make that extraction. A, continue to do it through air. And we have seen 6. Air cooled racks going all the way to north of 40 kilowatt per rack density. But clearly, at a certain stage, as one of our slides was explaining, At a certain stage, liquid kicks in.

Speaker 3

Liquid kicks in in form of immersion or direct to chip. We have both in our portfolio. And also we're partnering with people that handle both. But the fact is we think we believe The main technology going forward when it comes to liquid is really direct to chip. But again, it is certainly a portfolio approach that we're taking.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then I guess how do you think about the economics with these clusters versus corporate averages? I imagine it's more complex, it's higher ASPs, but Would love to know if you think that's fair and then how does it flow out for operating margins and so on as well?

Speaker 3

Well, It's a bit a lot of detail and also premature for those details. But I go back to the point I made at the beginning that we see this So it is another technology. We did not participate In the heat sink or extraction of the heat from the server, now we're starting to participate also in that part of the equation. So A bit premature, but I want to make sure we understand that is something in addition for us. But that absolutely dovetails

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Lance Vitanza from D. P. Cowen. Lance, please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Thanks guys for taking the question. My question is with leverage down to around 2 times At the end of the year, you're about a year ahead of where we thought you'd be. And it seems to me that 2 times is low enough and that Free cash flow in 2024 should be directed back to shareholders. Can you discuss your thoughts on that idea? And call.

Speaker 8

How are you thinking about the return of capital? Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. First, let me say it's very nice to have this conversation because We couldn't have had this a year ago. So at this point, we're going to get through this year. And we will share in our investor conference our further thoughts on capital allocation. We certainly Are participating in an industry where there should be plenty of growth and there's probably plenty of opportunity to continue to reinvest strategic decisions with what to do with some excess cash.

Speaker 4

I think as we said previously, we do believe there are some accretive strategic acquisitions out there. That is probably something we would look at first, but we'll be able to give a lot more detail in November.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Sprague from Vertical Research. Jeff, please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 3

Good morning, John.

Speaker 9

Nice quarter. Good to see. I want to pick up on sort of the exit rate there on the margins. And David, thanks for doing that math for us. We've Done it, but I'm glad you pointed it out.

Speaker 9

And really the I guess the question is if we go back to that original algorithm Before kind of the missteps, the 18.5 months ago 18 months ago or We were thinking about operational improvement being better on price execution. There's some internal execution and the like. I just wonder if you could update us on all of those levers really, particularly kind of the internal operational quarter. And I would suspect we're in a strong enough demand environment that You would expect to be able to remain price cost positive for the foreseeable future, but I wonder if you would agree with that or how are you thinking about kind of

Speaker 3

Maybe I can start with a little bit Over the three points we were talking and we're asking about, Jeff, about price, cost and execution. I mean, this is something we've been absolutely vocal about in the last three calls. As a matter of fact, this included. Certainly, a lot of price efforts and successful execution, as David Explain also our outlook, but what is most important is our price cost. When we were talking about price, I was vocal about the fact that we have now a muscle that we did not have before, and that has helped a lot When it comes to the cost side of the equation, we have a lot of focus on efficiency, be that in manufacturing execution, be that in procurement.

Speaker 3

And there is still potential. There's still potential in general. Execution in particular is true across the organization, But I can point particularly to the execution that we have started to drive in the procurement and manufacturing and ability to ship, that has certainly characterized and accelerated our ability to deliver on a strong backlog we entered of 2023 with. So we will have time in November to go into more details of exactly what are The axis of this acceleration, but I was vocal about our eternal promotion of Paul and Anders as a further step in the direction that is testament to the fact that We are not done yet, and that's very good news. I don't know

Speaker 9

Yes, it is. I wonder if you could maybe give us some perspective on incremental margin, so trying to kind of pull all that together. So We kind of say we're not done in 2023, but we've kind of pulled out of the big hole and or something may be approaching normal, not quarter. But as we look into 2024 and beyond, what would be kind of a reasonable kind of incremental margin construct for us to have in our head.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think the easy answer is higher. But if you look at where we were last year, and we've disclosed this in the past, we were probably in the low 30s from a variable contribution margin perspective. We're in the upper 30s at this point in time. Let's call it the mid to upper 30s.

Speaker 4

So If you look at the projected 600 plus basis point increase in operating margin this year versus last year, About $400,000,000 of that is related to the variable contribution margin and $200,000,000 is related to fixed cost leverage. And I definitely don't want to discount the power of the fixed cost constant methodology and culture. That should continue to provide upward momentum on the operating profit. So As we've consistently said, 16% has been our intermediate term goal. Yes.

Speaker 4

We have high confidence of getting there for sure, but we're not celebrating. Our long term goal is 20% and higher. But to get to that level, Jeff, to your question, we're going to have to continue to improve with the contribution margin while also Incorporating that fixed cost leverage philosophy.

Speaker 9

Great. Thanks for the insight. Appreciate it. Thank

Operator

you. Our next question comes from Nicole DeBlase from Deutsche Bank. Nicole, please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Yes, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 10

Can we just start with enterprise demand? I know you didn't change the bubble in the market outlook, SEC. What are you seeing on that front? I know this has been kind of like a watch item year to date.

Speaker 3

Nicole, not much really to add to what we were saying. We continue to see The demand fairly stable. The technology continues to be evolving for everyone In the industry, and that's not just a cool or hyperscale. But again, not a lot to elaborate Upon here, we see some stability in that space.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you. And then the EMEA margins, obviously, pretty big step up this quarter. How are you guys thinking about the sustainability of that level of margins into the second half of the year. Thank you.

Speaker 3

I would say that we have done a very, very good job operationally in terms of Positioning ourselves in the market with our technology and with our total cost of ownership story. So

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Tusa from JPMorgan. Steve, please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, congrats on the free cash flow. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. Just And then I have a follow-up. But why do you guys have the inflation, the material freight and labor inflation ticking up quarter to quarter from 2Q to 3Q?

Speaker 4

Is To the inflation story, you had the material inflation, which is about $110,000,000 headwind for the full year. Yes. You have actually a benefit in freight of about $40,000,000 and labor is about $100,000,000 The benefit from freight is definitely front end loaded. So of that 40, probably 30 of it is in the first half, which provides an actual tailwind as you look at the second half versus the first half. In addition, we do see an uptick in labor inflation, partly because of timing of pay raises, but also related to a foreign exchange dynamic in Mexico where we have some of our labor.

Speaker 4

So I would say those are probably the 2 most significant dynamics. It's Pretty much just front half, back half dynamics in both freight and then also labor. And then can you just help reconcile it? It just seems like the other guys, the other peers you compete against their orders are Trending better than you guys on a year over year basis. I know there's some difference in portfolio.

Speaker 4

There's some lumpiness. Do you guys feel like you're being selective or you're kind of holding your own in these bids for now?

Speaker 3

So there are 2 elements here. One is the normalization that we've been vocal about in the last two calls and this will continue. So that's A very normal, very healthy situation we're in. We certainly have very strong comparisons. This is certainly true.

Speaker 3

And we see pipelines growing. So I am positive about the trajectory we're on. I can't speak for other players. Base period of comparison. There is an element.

Speaker 3

Exactly, exactly. So if we Go back to the beginning of the year, we were saying, hey, we are at 4,800,000,000 dollar backlog, and we are likely going to shrink that and we're going to probably consume this backlog. So here we are halfway through the year. That is not that has not been the case. So positively surprised by that.

Speaker 3

We have a book to bill 1, but then if we look at our book to bill on the 12 trailing months, then we are at 1.1. So there are multiple ways to look at this. And I recommend we don't just take things at their face value, but we double click on what's

Speaker 4

Yes, great. And then just one last one on this new technology around cooling and just The proliferation of these AI, related data centers. Do you feel like you're going to need to at some point Go and do invest more, whether it's through acquisitions or through technology At some stage to kind of bring more in house or it's more steady as she goes as far as partnerships and developing internally? Is there a certain degree is there some sort of acquisition that you feel like you'll end up doing when you get better visibility on what the format is?

Speaker 3

This technology is still at a very early stage. And as every technology at early stage, you're looking at the opportunities through multiple lenses. One is the organic lenses, and we're certainly investing a lot, but we have partnerships as well. So there are multiple opportunities out there. We'll really see and be with a stronger balance sheet as well.

Speaker 3

We'll be Focusing on understanding exactly what's the best path going forward as the market matures.

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Obin from Bank of America. Andrew, please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hey, guys. Good

Speaker 9

morning. Hey, Andrew. Hey, Andrew.

Speaker 11

Hey, how are you? Just a question. What are typical lead times for thermal management products at this point, I. E, if data center owners are planning to buy these GPU Chips. What lead times are you quoting for the related thermal product?

Speaker 3

Well, That really depends on a customer request, of course. But in this moment, we have changed a lot from a situation In from a situation in which we were in 2022, as we explained during the last earnings call, Where we were out of the 50, 60 weeks lead time to much lower levels to the 30, 40 weeks and down from there further. So really what requested lead times we get Depends on the strategy of the various players. And do not think necessarily, if I may suggest, that It's the exact concatenation of when do I get the chip, the old GPU and when I need structure because the 2 things go in parallel and very often the infrastructure comes first. So you will see probably some earlier infrastructure demand and when the bulk of the chips will be available for AI.

Speaker 3

But It's customer specific. For what we are concerned, we have moved Down the path of shortening our lead times. And now we're able to serve the market with much shorter lead times Than we did a year ago and indeed 3 months ago. So that's exactly good news.

Speaker 11

And maybe just a follow-up and I'll echo Steve's comment on cash. Could you give us some update, just More color on internal changes that you're making to improve cash, changes on how you bill, payment terms, down payments, Just any color about sort of nuts and bolts of moving the needle there? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think your words, nuts and bolts, probably is a pretty good description. We are similar to what we did from an operational perspective, Notably, in the Americas, we are really getting into the basics and focusing

Speaker 3

on day to day execution.

Speaker 4

And we have a lot execution. And we have a lot stronger visibility, transparency with where we are with particular payment terms with every customer. We get daily updates as it relates to inventory. And probably most importantly, we have a plan that we are executing against. So I would say there's been some early successes, but there still is a ton of opportunity out there.

Speaker 4

And this is what was a focus as we exited last year, probably started in force mid last year, but it's also a huge cultural aspect. So When we talk about drumbeat and when we talk about financial metrics, we generally start with cash at this point in time. So we're encouraged as where we are, but not satisfied. There's still a lot of work to do.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our final question comes from Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs. Mark, please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Yes. Congratulations on the strong results and thank you very much for taking my question. The company have been expecting backlog to get worked down, but this year's lead times normalize, but book to bill, as you mentioned, has come in at 1 0.0 approximately for both 1Q and 2Q. So given the upside in orders you've seen in the first half of the year, can you share your latest views and how you expect backlog to trend? Do you still think that comes down a bit this year?

Speaker 12

Then on a related topic, given the better than expected demand, do you think you need to put any more manufacturing capacity in place to support that?

Speaker 3

Yes. Well, thanks, Mal, for the question. So when it comes to the backlog, We have a plan for orders that sees our orders In Q3 and Q4 sequentially increase. And We'll see what the backlog does exactly. We still are in an unusually Big backlog situation, given our historical trends and the historical trends in the industry.

Speaker 3

We were north of 70% coverage. We believe that anything above 50% is a good place to be. Yes, let's see how things are unfolding in that respect. Certainly, the pipeline strength is something that is Encouraging in that respect.

Speaker 12

And just operationally in order To support the backlog, do you need to put any more capacity?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think capacity. You've got the same facilities you need. Well, we do have capacity. As I explained, we have increased capacity in capacity in the last 12, 18 months. We are certainly extracting more capacity from what we have.

Speaker 3

We've been vocal many times about our Vertiv operating system and that certainly is a big enabler for more capacity out of our current footprint. But we are Very focused and very keen on building scenarios as to what exactly will happen. So we will move early if needed when we see that there is an imbalance between the potential demand and our available capacity.

Speaker 12

Understood. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Giordano Albertazzi for closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Well, thanks a lot. Again, a good first half and looking forward 2nd half and looking forward to meeting you all in November.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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Key Takeaways

  • Vertiv delivered a strong Q2 with 25% organic sales growth (Americas +48%), a 14.5% adjusted operating margin (up 860 bps), and $227 million of adjusted free cash flow, prompting a raise in full-year operating profit guidance to $950 million.
  • The data center market remains healthy, with accelerating cloud hyperscale and AI tailwinds driving stronger pipelines, AI-related orders in the tens of millions, and active discussions on future capacity needs.
  • Supply chain resilience is improving through shortened lead times, multi-sourcing programs, and strategic appointments—Paul Ryan as head of global procurement and Anders Cadbury leading manufacturing, logistics and operations.
  • Vertiv generated $227 million of adjusted free cash flow in Q2, reduced net leverage to 3.1× (on track to 2.3× by year-end), and is intensifying working capital management to unlock further cash for growth or strategic uses.
  • Pricing actions and cost discipline drove a 9% price uplift in Q2 (with 7% expected in Q3 and 5% in Q4), helping offset higher H2 commodity inflation while preserving margin expansion.
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Earnings Conference Call
Vertiv Q2 2023
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